Nov. 13, 2025

Crime Wire Weekly 11/14/25 | Illinois Scandal, Cruise Ship Death, and Louisiana Deepfake Drama (Preview)

Crime Wire Weekly 11/14/25 | Illinois Scandal, Cruise Ship Death, and Louisiana Deepfake Drama (Preview)

In this episode of Crime Wire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including the outrage after a 13 year old victim of a deepfake image gets expelled from school. In Miami an 18 year old is found mysteriously dead sparking an FBI investigation aboard a Carnival Cruise Ship. In Las Vegas a trial ensues for a pornstar accused of beheading the father of her (2) children. In Illinois a chiropractor is caught with 180 videos of patients in the nude on his computer. These stories and more today on Crime Wire Weekly!

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Timestamps
04:25 Illinois Chiropractor Found with 180 Different Patient’s Nude Videos.
09:00 Mysterious Death of 18 Year Old Aboard Carnival Cruise Ship.
14:30 Former Local Fox News Anchor Kills Mother in Kansas.
19:10 Louisiana 13 Year old Deepfake Victim Expelled From School.
37:00 Sex Offender Caught After Over a Decade on the Run.
42:00 Las Vegas Pornstar Trial Underway for Beheading Partner.
46:00 Louisiana Man Fakes Limp to Rob Bank.
49:55 Texas Woman Tortured for Months Leads to Arrest of (5) People.
54:08 Indiana Man Shoots (2) Dogs While Deer Hunting.
56:15 Texas Woman Blames Designer High Hills on Wreck That Kills a Man on Date.

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All right, folks, what an episode we have coming your

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way today, And look at some of the topics we

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have coming up. In Illinois, a car repractor is accused

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of secretly recording one hundred and eighty patients in the nude.

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In Miami, the mysterious death of an eighteen year old

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raises safety concerns in the cruise industry. In Kansas, a

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former local Fox news anchor is accused of stabbing her

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mother to death. In Louisiana, a female student thirteen years

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old is expelled after fighting a male who made a

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deep fake porn image of her, and many are infuriated

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in the Bayou State. We're going to talk about that.

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In Las Vegas, a porn star is arrested after beheading

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the father of her two children following an affair with

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his step son. Yeah, there's a lot of connections we

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got to make on that one, but it's pretty wild.

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These stories and more are coming at you today on

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Crime Wire Weekly.

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I'm Jim Chapman and I'm Kelly Jennings.

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Kelly Jennings, you got your tree up yet?

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Uh? Well, that is difficult.

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Everybody's putting their tree up before thanks.

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I put a little tiny tree up in my kitchen.

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But I made a Thanksgiving.

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Tree, a Thanksgiving tree, that's good.

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I found some antique brass and copper little they look

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like little utensils and stuff from the kitchen. I was like,

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this will be cute, and so I made ornaments and

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it's a Thanksgiving little tiny tree.

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Well, it's interesting here in South Louisiana. When you get

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your first cold snap, that's when everyone's like, we need

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to put up the Christmas tree.

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A gumbo is what we did.

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Well that too, That also happens during cold snaps. But

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it's interesting how many people this weekend because we had

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some cold weather. We actually had our first freeze way

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early into the season here in South Louisiana. And on

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Facebook it was just covered with people putting up trees

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and putting up pictures. A lot of beautiful trees out there.

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I'm not against it. I feel so fid whenever you

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want to do it, do it.

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Yeah.

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I feel joy in my heart. I feel so festive.

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And so my husband's like, no, you have to wait

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till Thanksgiving. I said, you can wait for whatever you want,

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but I will be putting that Christmas tree up sooner

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than later. Yeah's Thanksgiving in the kitchen, and we can

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have Christmas in the living.

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Room, right. And you know one great thing is we

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have Marti Gras here in Louisiana.

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A lot of people don't thank you lord. You know,

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they're not putting up a tree is fun.

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Taking it down kind of sucks because the season's over

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as it is, and you know, it's a lot of work.

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So here in South Louisiana we have Marti Gras just

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a couple of months after Christmas. And most people here

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don't even take their tree down. They just take the

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decorations off and they're making a Marti.

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Gras tree done. Oh my god, I love Marty.

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Girl. There you go. All right? You were you got

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anything else? So you want to get in some crime?

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Well I wanted to can I can I tell you

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a little story real quick? Sure the people might like

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this one. I went to another antique store. I love

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going to them. Anyway. This old lady was sitting there

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and we were talking. She said, girl, you never know

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who a criminal is. And I said, you're right. Now.

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This woman's like seventy. I said, you're right, she's like

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like myself. And I said, you're a criminal. She said yeah.

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I said, girl, what did you do?

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You know?

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Because like she was fancy, she had jewels and stuff.

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And she said, I fed a boiled peanut to a coyote.

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And I said what they they the police ticketed her.

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She had to pay one hundred and seventy five dollars

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fine for free jail. I said, bish, I'd have been

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up in that jail fist fighting before I hid one

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hundred and seventy five dollars fine for feeding a peanut

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to a coyote. But no, she was not. She was not.

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She said they were up in the mountains somewhere I

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don't know, and uh it was. She said. There were

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cameras everywhere, and it was. There were signs that said

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don't feed the coyotes. But uh, but she did.

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Why she got a feeding on it? It was hungry

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coyote would have tore her. See, that's why they're looking

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out for people, because they got morons and bring hamburgers

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to bears. Here, come here, a little cute bear.

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That bear. I would have croucheted a little knit sweater

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and loved it.

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We'd be wading about you.

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peanuts to coyotes.

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All right, Well, we're gonna go to Illinois. We're gonna

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tell you not about a coyote. We're going to tell

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you about a carropractor.

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Who fa carrapractor?

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Yeah?

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What do you chiropractor?

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Oh my god, did y'all hear that? Chiropractic?

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All right, y'all let us know.

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How do you know it's chiropractor? I'm Southern cart all right?

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Illinois chiropractor faces multiple felony charges after prosecutors said he

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secretly recorded new videos of more than one hundred Native patients,

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including children, inside of his office. David Hanson, who is

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owner of Hanson Family Chiropractic, was charged Thursday with five

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counts of producing child pornography, three counts of disseminating child born,

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six counts of possessing child born, and three counts of

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unauthorized video recording of a minor through or underclothing. And

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that one I wasn't I'm not really sure. I guess

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he was just focusing on him or something, and it

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was a weird charge of trying to kind of look

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it up, But it's a felony. Nonetheless, According to the

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Kane County State attorney's office. Hanson is accused of using

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hidden cameras to record patients as a dressed or were

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unclothed official save Victims ranged in age from young children

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to adults and were mostly female. Authority said many of

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the recordings appeared to be made in a what's known

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as a red light room used for red light and

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near infrared light thing therapy, so everybody started of red

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light therapy supposedly very good for you. Hanson allegedly placed

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hidden cameras throughout the office to capture that footage. Police

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set hands and also possessed and share videos containing child's

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sexual abuse material that was not connected to his practice.

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Law enforcement search Sheenson's home and office Wednesday before taking

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him into custody. That night, he appeared in court for

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a pre trial detention hearing and prosecutors ordered for him

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to remain in jail. The court granted the request and

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Hansom will be held wise while his case is spending,

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so he got a no bond order. His next appearance

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is scheduled for November tenth at nine am.

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So I would go out on a limb here and

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guess you know, they have those pin cameras and he

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may have been with the pin camera, like you know,

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lifting shirt to you know, pretend to be checking something

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and filming under the clothing like that, but or down

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shirts or upskirts or I don't know anything of that nature.

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But this is a predator totally.

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And you know, technology, It's one of the bad things

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with technology is there's so many ways now they have

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so many ways to conceal cameras. You can make them

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look like cell phone chargers. You can make them look

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like fire alarms where the camera's actually the inside the

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fire alarm, and it can film like a whole room.

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You know, it's ridiculous, and if you're not looking for it,

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you're probably not going to catch it. I'd be interested

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to know how he got caught.

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I my brain goes to this. I don't know anybody else,

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but my brain goes to the thought of not just

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what he did, but preparing for what he did. So

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that means that this man was in his practice when

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nobody was there and he was thinking about how to

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angle these cameras, where to put them. Like the preparation

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involved in this is really sick if you really think

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it through everything he had to go through to try

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to get these shots and to get this film done.

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It's a level of predation. That's that's scary. And you

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go in here expecting to be you know, adjusted and

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having a medical problem and to know or God forbid,

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you brought your kid. Yeah kid, Yeah, I know, That's

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what I'm saying. And then to know that they were

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being taken advantage of is sick.

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Yeah really yeah. And a person in a with a

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level of trust, I mean, this is a doctor, so

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uh kind of adds insult to injury. But you know,

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just a quick little side note on that. I at

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one point it's it's strange when you cover crime for

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a living, uh, how your brain works. And I actually

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at one point wanted to put one of those things

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in the bathroom here at the office that it makes

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it smell good likely freshener. Yeah shoots the freshener out

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and I plugged it in and I'm like that kind

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of looks like one.

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Of those devices.

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Because I cover this so much, and I'm like, screw that,

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I'm not putting that in here. Someone go to the

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bathroom and think, you're, yeah, I'm doing something I shouldn't

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be doing.

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Let's go to Florida. We always go to Florida, man

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we go Louisiana, Florida in these stories. But the family

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of an eighteen year old her name was Anna Kepner,

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who was reported dead while aboard the Carnival Horizon cruise

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ship on Saturday, says that they will remember her as

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a happy, bubbly, straight a student with a bright future ahead. Anna,

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who was set to graduate from high school in May,

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was traveling aboard the ship on a route from Miami

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to the Caribbean when she died. Details surrounding her death

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have not been released. The ship returned to Miami on Saturday,

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where the FBI has since opened an investigation into her death.

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And when she walked into her room, she would just

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light it up, according to her family, who told ABC

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News that if you were sad, she would make you laugh,

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she would joke around, and she would be the funniest

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little person in the room. Carnival Cruise Line confirmed her

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passing in a statement, saying our focus is on supporting

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the family of our guest and cooperating with the FBI.

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Her family says they are still coming to terms with

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the loss of a young woman filled with dreams and

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excitement for her future. She had just finished taking the

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test to join them military and she was already talking

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to recruiters who had chosen her career path. She wanted

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to do something that would help her community. The family

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hopes Anna will be remembered for her generosity and spirit.

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She was deeply involved in her community, volunteering in her

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grandparents' fifty five plus neighborhood and helping out local businesses

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in her hometown of Titusville, Florida. She was a people person.

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She loved being around people. She had that type of

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energy that just drew you in with her smile and

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the way she carried herself. She was just such an

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easy person to talk to. Cruise ship death cases can

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be very complex for law enforcement. The FBI has jurisdiction

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to handle cases when a crime occurs in international waters

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and it falls under what is called special maritime jurisdiction

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laws that mandate this. For example, if a cruise departs

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from Miami, that gives FBI Miami jurisdiction. If it's returning

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in or out of a US cruise port, and if

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the alleged crime occurred in international waters, then that's the

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FBI's responsibility as well.

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You know strange story here in that there is some

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reporting out there that I saw when this first came out,

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and some of this reporting is saying she was stabbed

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to death and found wrapped in sheets in her room.

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Who's report do you remember?

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I don't want to. It was similar to what we do,

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and but this person is a very very large TikTok

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crater and covers a lot of crime, does a great

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job with it. The issue here is, you know, I

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always try to source this with three sources, and that's

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the only person I can find saying that. Doesn't mean

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they're inaccurate on it. Maybe this person has more information

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than the general public. Sometimes people will feed them leads

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that they don't feed anybody else. But the issue I'm

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running into is the police haven't said it. None of

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your typical news outlets Taby's, NBCCBS, Fox, none of them

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are reporting how she died yet have they found her.

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dead anywhere, it says how you were found dead, what

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you died of, And if you read the the mainstream articles,

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they just say she was found dead. They don't, so

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it makes me think the police haven't released that.

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Yet right well to me, that would tell me the

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other one.

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Is releasing that well, which is strange.

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Which is not smart. Also because if the police in

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law enforcement is trying to keep this close to their chest,

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obviously it's because there's something that's needing, you know. They

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don't want to release anything that might compromise the integrity

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of an investigation, because if she died of natural causes,

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that would be you know, found rather easily. And so

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whoever fed that information, if it's true, has done a

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disservice to the family and my humble opinion because now

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if that's true, whoever did this knows what at minimum

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is being swirled around in the inner circles, you know

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what I mean. So I don't know.

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Well, but when you find somebody and they've been shot,

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you say they've been shot. When you find somebody and

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no foul play is expected, or you're looking into foul play,

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maybe they were choked to death, but you can't really

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tell whatever I mean. It's typically reported when someone's murdered

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that they were found, you know, But if they're.

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In a cat strangled at that my brain goes here.

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And again I'm not I've never investigated anything you know,

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on a cruise everything, But my brain goes to we're

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in a confined space with a limited number of people

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on the ship, and to minimize any information of what

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has happened. Then when we're talking in questioning people, obviously

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the person who's done this is going to be lying.

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Any information that gets out is a step up for

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that person to recreate history or recreate come up with something.

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So yeah, I mean, everybody in that industry scoop story

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so these What.

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Was weird was that they didn't say she was found

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dead like on the ship. So they made me think,

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I know, but it made me think, well did she

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jump off of it like they because they didn't give much.

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I know she didn't, But I'm saying because it was

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so limited in information, that is making me believe that

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this is going to be a serious case whenever it's

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you know, whenever it's released. Yes, even what was her name,

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Ammy Bradley or whatever when she was missing, they at

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least said she was missing.

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You know, Well they're definitely saying she was dead, but

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they just no information as to how. So this person

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may be right that's reporting this, and like I say,

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maybe they got that from a family member. I mean

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sometimes family members would communicate with certain people that they

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follow and that's it.

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I would suggest not doing that, but well, you know

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you trust, you trust?

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I guess trust? Do you trust? We'll go to Kansas

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and I'm going to tell you about a former morning

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TV news anchor who was charged with first re murder

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in the stabbing of her eighty year old mother. Angel

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Anne Mock, who is forty seven, who previously worked for

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Fox two News in Saint Louis, and she didn't just

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work there, she anchored the news. She has been charged

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with first degree murder and the stabbing of her mother,

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Anita Avers. This from the Sedgwick County District Attorney's office.

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Mike was arrested in Wichita, Kansas, after police say Avers

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was killed inside the home they shared. When officers responded

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to the home around seven point fifty am, they found

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Mock outside with cuts on her hands and she was

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treated with multiple stab wounds. Mock Avers her mother, Mick

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was treated in the hospital for injuries to her hands

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before being booked into the jail. Mike worked as a

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morning newsachor at Fox two in Saint Louis from twenty

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eleven to twenty fifteen, and also held positions at Fox

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twenty five in Oclambas City. At the time of her arrest,

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she was employed in sales at a data management software company.

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Neighbors in the community were traumatized after a bloodied Mock

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allegedly emerged from the home. Quote, there was a woman

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who approached our vehicle with blood all over her hands

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and body and asked us to call nine one one.

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That from a neighbor Castro. The neighbor told the outlet

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that Mock told her took her boyfriend's phone, ran back

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inside the house, where she called authorities, and allegedly claimed

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she stabbed her mother to save herself that according to

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the Sedgwick County dispatchers, Mock's motive for the stabbing remains unclear.

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But you know, I've researched what this woman looked like,

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you know, you're always curious. And I found a picture

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of her when she was anchoring the news, and then

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a picture of her and her arrest. And I don't

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know what has happened to this woman since twenty fifteen

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when she was anchoring the news, But in the first

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picture and I'll put these on the Facebook page. In

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the first picture, she's absolutely someone that would take you

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brought away when she walked in a room, just that gorgeous, stunning,

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typical Fox News anchor. Right the next picture, she looks

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like she has had a very rough time from twenty

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fifteen to now. And of course you could be beautiful

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and stab your mother to death. I'm not saying that

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that doesn't exist, but we all develop some sort of

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predposite disposition to what people. You know, you hear a

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story like that and you think this person has a

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certain look to him. I'll just let you see the

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pictures and you judge for yourself. But I think what

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you're saying woman is claiming self defense on this.

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Yeah. I think what you're saying real quick about the

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looks thing is that the first picture she looks very

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put together. This looks like a person who has a

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lot of self esteem and confidence and owns a room.

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And then the second one looks she looks very she

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looks like she's low self esteem, she looks like she's

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let herself go. She looks like so maybe there's some

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type of mental health component to this, or maybe she

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just didn't want to dress up anymore, but to stab

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your mother to death is a level of vi. I mean,

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that is such a personal level of violence. And what

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her moment are eighties so and.

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Yes, and I don't know the situation. I do want

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to say this. Look, she's claiming self defense. And some

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of these people when they get Alzheimer's, they get very mean.

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I'm not saying her mother had that, and I've been

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through an Alzheimer's situation now that was not the very

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mean type of Alzheimer's, but some of them will attack you. Well,

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I don't know if that occurred in this situation.

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But to me, and again we don't have all the details,

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but if she's eighty something years old, kicker on her

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knee and she'll fall down like you stabbed her to death,

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And that just seems like a very high level of

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violence towards an eighty something year old. Again, again we

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don't know if the grandma had had a gun pointed

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at her, we don't know, and that could be the case, but.

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Kiler she could be.

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Yeah, but you have to one has to wonder stabbing

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an old lady like that over and over again seems

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a bit much for self defense for self defense claim.

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So you know, we'll see all right now, if you

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are a parent, this is gonna make you. This is

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gonna make your blood boil. And if it doesn't, we

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got to talk because this is going to be right here.

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In Louisiana, a thirteen year old student was expelled from

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sixth Ward Middle School after hitting a male classmate who

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she said created and shared a deep fake pornographic image

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of her. According to her family's lawyers, the family, now

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represented by Batonu's attorneys Greg Miller and Morgan Young, planned

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to file a federal lawsuit against the Lafouche Parish school district.

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The incident occurred in August when school began. The girl's father,

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Joseph Daniels, and the attorneys say that the young girl

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endured bullying after the deep fake nude image was circulated

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throughout the school. Deep fake images are created using artificial

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intelligence and can appear realistic enough to deceive viewers. Attorney

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Miller said school leaders at sixth Ward Middle School failed

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to address the girl's complaints about the circulating image despite

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her reporting it to school leaders. The school board's actions

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in this case are reprehensible. Miller said, my client's daughter

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was begging them all day to put a stop to this.

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Not only did they not put a stop to it,

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they put her on the bus with the perpetrator. When

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the girl saw the photo being shared again on the

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school bus, she hit the boy she said was responsible

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for creating it. She was later expelled from school. Daniel

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said he disagreed with his daughter's physical response, but felt

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the punishment was excessive. I do not approve of her

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putting hands on the little boy, so suspension would have

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been justified in my mind, but expulsion was extremely overboard.

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The case became a focal point at the Olafouche Parish

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school board meeting last week, where community members expressed outrage

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over the district's handling of the situation. During the meeting,

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speakers describe how the girl tried to contact her father

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during the day, but was told by school officials that

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parents did not need to be involved. The board voted

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to allow the student to return to school on probation,

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but the expulsion remains on her record, according to her father.

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Attorney Young joined in with others who criticized the district's response.

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I think the biggest failure is that they failed to

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take accountability for their role and the fault in it

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or their fault in it. Instead, they chose to shift

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the narrative onto a thirteen year old girl's reaction after

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being sexually exploited all day. Attorney Miller said he will

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file federal lawsuit against the Lafouche Parish School District in

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the coming weeks. The case has gained attention on social

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media platforms, including TikTok with nearly two hours with a

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nearly two hour school board meeting viewed more than forty

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thousand times. Daniel said the experience has affected his confidence

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in the school system at this point. Of course, it's

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shaking my faith. I completely feel like they failed all

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of the kids. Despite the situation, Daniel said he holds

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no animosity toward the male student or his family. Honestly,

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I have no ill will towards the young man or

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his family. Kids are kids and they do dumb things

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just like adults do, so, especially at that age, they

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don't comprehend the severity of what they do. The Lafuchpear

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School District said it could not comment on specifics because

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of federal privacy guidelines. The superintendent said the district immediately

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reported the case to law enforcement and an investigation is ongoing.

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Yeah, and I got some things to say about this

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you got. First of all, let me say this one

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pissed me off so bad that I'm doing an exposed

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episode on it next week. It is absolutely obviously shocking.

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But folks deep fakes. Now, with the technology we have,

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I can literally well I can't do it because I

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ain't looked.

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Up how to do it.

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But people, and obviously thirteen year old kids even can

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make these images that look exactly like you. Now, obviously

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no one knew what this thirteen year old body looked

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like underneath her clothes, but you can find a newd

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image somewhere that might resemble it and superimpose her face

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on it. And this isn't what it used to be

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where you can tell the face was superimposed. It looks legit.

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And I'll give you a little inside information that was

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not said in that article. They were harassing her because

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in addition to the fact that she you know, it

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was a fake nude, they were harassing her because this

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fake nude had a, for lack of a better word,

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a big bush. And so the kids were laughing at

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her for what her vagina looked like with unshaven if

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you will, and I'll tell you how bad it got.

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This kid showed the pictures. She reported it as she's

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supposed to. Now, She went through like half the day

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of school just mortified because he's texting this picture to everybody.

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She reports it to the principal, and the principal says, okay,

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we're going to take care of it. Later on that day,

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still getting harassed by everybody that's seen this picture, she

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goes back up there, talks to the guidance counselor and says,

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I want to call my dad, and the guidance counselor

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would not let her call her dad at that point.

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From let me finish. From there, she goes back to

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her class. And here's where they were really stupid. This

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made absolutely no sense. The bus comes, he rides the

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same bus she does. The school's been made aware he's

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harassing her with a nude fake photo, okay, which they

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said they didn't believe her. Essentially, she gets on the

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bus and this kid is sharing the picture on the

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bus when she gets on it. So she gets on

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the bus, she sits down. She looks over and this

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kid's got his phone open with this deep fake photo

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of her, and he's showing another kid and she reaches

468
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up and she swats him, not hits him. She swats

469
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:06.720
him on the top of the head, like you'd swat

470
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.200
your husband or something like that if he made a

471
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:14.319
snod comment about you when you walk past him, swats him.

472
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.319
The kid doesn't even react to the swat. It was

473
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:21.759
that soft when she hit him. They expelled her for that.

474
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:27.920
So I, okay, I'm gonna go somewhere with this, and

475
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.680
I think people are going to get frustrated with me,

476
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:34.680
but just hanging there. So whenever the photo was shared,

477
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:36.480
I think this is where the miscommunication is going to

478
00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:39.319
come in. And there's fault on the school to an

479
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:42.359
extent here. But if the child came forward to the

480
00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:46.440
office and said this is being passed around, obviously they're

481
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:48.319
gonna say, okay, we're going to look into it and

482
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:51.240
gather information. What is their name, what happened, blah blah blah,

483
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.200
al right, go back to class, let us handle it

484
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.519
where the problem started. In my humble opinion is that

485
00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:01.559
adults respond to things differently than kids. So the adults

486
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:03.519
are going to take their time to investigate this to

487
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:06.160
figure out what's going on to try to get the image.

488
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:09.279
I'm sure see what was going on, but they probably

489
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.880
failed to realize that this is huge to a kid,

490
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.680
to an adult who who you know it's fake. No

491
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:17.559
listen to me though, for an adult that knows that

492
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.599
this is fake, I think they took too long because

493
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:21.880
they're like, it's fake. You know, if it's fake, we'll

494
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:24.319
figure it out. How in the world they could send

495
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:28.759
her back to class knowing that level of it.

496
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:30.759
It's child born, kil I know.

497
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.119
But what I'm saying is they took too long to

498
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.519
investigate this, and they sent right. That's what I'm trying

499
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.359
to say though, But they sent the kid back expecting

500
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.240
the kid to understand that they've got to take the

501
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.680
time to investigate it. Time out come see, and whenever

502
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.400
they failed to let her call her parents, that was

503
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.799
a mess up too, because now that just looks like

504
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.680
they're trying to cover something up. What probably happened is

505
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.359
the counselor said, listen, ad men is handling it. You're

506
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.039
gonna go back to class. We're not gonna call dad

507
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:58.880
right now, because they didn't want dad coming up there

508
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:00.960
and screaming and hollering while they still didn't have it

509
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.240
handled yet. I'm not saying that's good looking back at

510
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.000
what we know now, but in the moment they were

511
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.240
probably trying to figure it out still, but they didn't

512
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.720
do it fast enough. Like that boy should have been

513
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.880
snatched that instant, That device should have been taken that instant,

514
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:19.319
that very instant. The SRO should have been involved that instant,

515
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.640
the SR was involved immediately.

516
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.000
Yeah, let me tell you. Let me look, I love

517
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:28.440
SROs and you'll know no one is more pro police

518
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.839
than me. But let me tell you what the SR

519
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:34.640
did in this situation. To me, he pulls up Snapchat

520
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.319
and he says, I don't say any picture because the

521
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.680
kid was also incidentally sharing it on Snapchat.

522
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.319
Well, he's not going to see it on Snapchat if

523
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:43.319
it's a private snap.

524
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:47.640
Well he exactly, Wow, you just nailed it. They disappear

525
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.319
and he can share with just certain people. Right. Well,

526
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.480
this SR pulls it up and he says, oh, he

527
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:55.039
didn't put anything on Snapchat.

528
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.200
So what happened is the kid probably went in and

529
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.319
said he's putting it on Snapchat. SRO assume who's the

530
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.839
public Snapchat? But if they left it, that's still ridiculous.

531
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:05.720
Are you that I don't.

532
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:08.440
Mean to say this, but are you that dumb that

533
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.240
you don't know that you can go on Snapchat and

534
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:16.240
just share with friends? So when the SRO saw that, Okay,

535
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.279
the assumption that's being made from the attorneys for this

536
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.880
girl and I get at their attorneys, but the assumption,

537
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:25.000
and it seems like it makes sense, is they didn't

538
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:29.799
believe her. Oh there's nothing on it snapchat. If if

539
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.079
if they're telling you this kid sharing this on Snapchat

540
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:35.599
talking to the girl, then they're lying to you because

541
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:37.359
it's not on there. They're just trying to get your

542
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.079
gay and upset you.

543
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.960
But the other side of this, though, and I'm not

544
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.839
defending your child, well listen to me though, No, as

545
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.160
far as investigating this, and I'm telling you because I've

546
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.640
seen very very similar things while on campus, is that

547
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.480
you can't just flat out accuse a kid either, because

548
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.240
your hands are tied there. So ADMIN has to go

549
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.359
through all of these steps without alerting children, without without

550
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:02.839
fueling the trying to find exactly who saw the message,

551
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.000
exactly what they saw, document everything to a t so

552
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.039
that it's all about lawsuits. Lawsuits have become the problems

553
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.039
where ADMIN can't just run in and snatch out a

554
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:14.680
kid like we like they did back in the good

555
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:16.640
old days, and say what the hell is wrong with you?

556
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:20.720
But when you're Kelly, when I'm sorry, If I'm the

557
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.240
principal and a kid comes to me and says another

558
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.039
kid is disseminating child porn, I'm pulling him out of

559
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:32.359
class right there. I'm not doing an investigation first, behind

560
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.839
the scenes. I'm pulling him out of class. And here's

561
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.440
where the really stupid thing came in. You put him

562
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.640
on the bus with the girl at the end of

563
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:44.319
the day, knowing all that there's all this tension, right,

564
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.079
so then you're surprised when the girl swats him on

565
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:48.559
the head.

566
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.240
I'm not. And if I was her father or her mother,

567
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.400
I would have said, no problem, come home, no problem.

568
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:57.039
She's expelled, she's not just suspended.

569
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.200
I would have done exactly what these parents are doing.

570
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.400
I think I agree. I'm not arguing that. What I'm

571
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:05.200
saying is I'm playing Devil's advocate right now and I'm

572
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:08.759
just telling you that the rules because of lawsuits, have

573
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:12.720
made it so incredibly difficult to handle. Now. When she

574
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.160
reported this, if she reported this at seven am, and

575
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.079
then that kid was put on the bus with that

576
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:21.000
kid again in the afternoon. Huge problem, massive problem now

577
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:23.799
if I know. But just for the listeners, if she

578
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.160
reported it to them at noon at lunchtime, and then

579
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:28.720
two hours two and a half hours later, she was

580
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:30.759
put back on the bus with them, Okay, well they didn't.

581
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.920
You know, two and a half hours isn't a lot

582
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.400
of time to figure out exactly what's going on. So

583
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:37.880
I think all of that little minutia is going to

584
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.559
come into this and you know, they are going to

585
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.440
have to make policy changes. But the reality is that

586
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.920
we are not smart enough to deal with the advancements

587
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:49.319
in technology. We are not smart. AI is out of

588
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.079
our league at this point, and it's out of control.

589
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.960
And I think that was some of the issue with

590
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.359
this case is as a matter of fact, in the

591
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:01.440
episode to be doing, I'm going to be sharing a

592
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.039
lot of the clips from the school board meeting, But

593
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.200
there was there's in a particular attorney that I have

594
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:09.960
some mad respect for. I think, in my opinion, he's

595
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:12.079
the best attorney in Louisiana right now. And I know

596
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.000
that list can go deep and change for everybody, but

597
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.359
his last name is or I call him an attorney

598
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.559
or and attorney or represented a case that we covered

599
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.799
with the LSU football player that killed himself after the

600
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.359
reck We covered this on Crime ar weekly. But same attorney,

601
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.480
very sharp, and he stood up in this in this

602
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.599
board meeting, and he even said no offense to one

603
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.720
of the school board members. He says, no offense. But

604
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:42.319
we're in twenty twenty five, a lot changed. This was

605
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.680
an older, very much older school board member who cannot

606
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.519
grasp the fact that you can make a deep fake

607
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.599
that looks exactly like someone exactly. They're like, how could

608
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.519
you not tell? And he's like, this is twenty twenty five, lady, Yeah,

609
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.440
you're eighty six. He didn't say that, but I'm sure

610
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:01.119
that's what he was insinuating you you.

611
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:01.960
Can't grasp this.

612
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.559
I'm sure there were a lot of people at that

613
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.680
school that initially when hearing this, probably didn't even know

614
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.039
what a deep think was because they don't listen to

615
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:14.599
our show, and they cannot grasp the fact of how

616
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.279
real this looks.

617
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:17.720
It looks very real.

618
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.680
This would be my statement, Can I finish? Yeah, but

619
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.799
I want to tell you the photo you're talking about.

620
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.079
I would have said to them. If you can't grasp this,

621
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:27.559
I'm going to print it out and I'm going to

622
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.079
post it on the front of the school. Maybe then

623
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:33.000
you'll understand how horrific this is. Because it's that horrific.

624
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:34.319
They can't seem to understand that.

625
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.640
Yeah, right, well they couldn't grasp it at the beginning obviously,

626
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.640
But the mistake here and what the claim is, and

627
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:46.200
then we'll wrap this up. Nobody's arguing that there shouldn't

628
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.599
be any discipline. I would argue it personally, as a

629
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:53.359
as just a general lam in person with kids, I

630
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.440
would argue that I have no problem with our hitting

631
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:00.880
that kid, swatting him. She didn't beat shit out of him.

632
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.119
These are two thirteen year olds and she's the girl,

633
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:03.960
he's the boy.

634
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:09.799
Come on. But the parents, to their credit, are not arguing, Hey,

635
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.559
she should have been suspended, she shouldn't.

636
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:12.839
Have hit the boy.

637
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.519
Yeah, I don't you know. I've told her that was

638
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.799
not the right thing to do. So he's not arguing that.

639
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.079
The argument here and why there's a suit is they

640
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:30.319
expelled her from school and put her in an alternative school. Well,

641
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.759
that that was the plan, and an alternative school is

642
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:34.680
a school for bad people.

643
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.200
Guess what happens when she goes there.

644
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.720
This is the girl that got in no trouble in

645
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.480
regular school, she had great grades. She goes to the

646
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:48.759
alternative school failing. Yeah, it's where she clearly pulled out

647
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:52.200
of her environment for something that that poor girl can't

648
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:53.319
wrap around her mind.

649
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:56.319
What she has done wrong? Well, the school, she did it.

650
00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:01.640
She took every fucking step you should take to get

651
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:03.599
this kid away from you and get him to quit

652
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:06.319
a rassing you, and nobody would listen to her.

653
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.199
And this is how it suicides.

654
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.599
Starts with your angry I was gonna say.

655
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.360
And everything else. Is this harassment?

656
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:14.480
Ever? Shit like this?

657
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.079
Well, this, I'm sorry pisses me off.

658
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:20.039
No it should, because this is where there's a failure

659
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.800
to protect the child. And what happened is you failed

660
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.920
to protect the child. And then a thirteen year old

661
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:26.920
mind is going, oh my god, no one's listening to me,

662
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:28.559
no one's doing anything. The only thing I can do

663
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.719
is result to slap in him, Like what do I do?

664
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.639
I've done everything I'm supposed to do. I'm humiliated. I'm

665
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.800
humiliated amongst all of my peers. They don't have the

666
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:41.119
emotional capacity to handle this their kids. They're kids, an adult,

667
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.559
and that's what I'm saying. This timeline went too slow.

668
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.280
And I guarantee you there should be a policy change

669
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:49.360
that comes out of this. If ever there's anything AI

670
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.519
deep fake whatever from the get go, that should take precedents,

671
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.239
especially when sexual in nature. Yeah, that should take precedence

672
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.639
over anything happening at that school right now, because now,

673
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.599
if that child goes and does hurt herself or something

674
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.199
comes out of this, you are to blame for it

675
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:06.599
because you fail to act in an appropriate timeframe. And

676
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:08.000
that's I think where they're gonna get sunk.

677
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.599
That's that's correct and last thing on that, and then

678
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:12.599
we've got to move on.

679
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:13.920
From discipline his ass too.

680
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.719
Yeah, when I was in high school, and this is

681
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.440
this is prior to high school, this age group. But

682
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.920
when I was a freshman in high school, Uh, there

683
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.079
was a guy at one of the breaks, you know,

684
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.519
you get these fifteen minute breaks, Uh, and he thought

685
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.039
it'd be funny to try to embarrass me in front

686
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:37.079
of a girl. And I beat that ass. I beat

687
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.000
that ass because I like that girl. When you're gonna

688
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:40.960
try it because he liked her, he's gonna try to

689
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:42.760
embarrass me, and I'm like, I ain't gonna happen here.

690
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:44.920
I'm about to beat your ass and really impress her.

691
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.679
And I did, kd wherever you're at, you know who

692
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:52.519
you are. I whipped your ass, Keith Dawphin, No, it's

693
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:53.639
not kick. How did you know?

694
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:54.239
Oh my god?

695
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:58.400
But the the thing about it is I went to

696
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.760
the office and Kelly's grandfather actually paddled me.

697
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:04.800
For you shouldn't have hit him.

698
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.079
I got that paddle. Hey you Eric, Look he didn't

699
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:08.639
play coach Corter.

700
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:12.400
My hero, my coworker, that's right.

701
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.800
Paddled my ass and uh And that straightened me up

702
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.679
for a little while. This girl swatted somebody for sharing

703
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.039
a fake need image of her. I think this is

704
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:22.039
a travesty.

705
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:22.320
It is.

706
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.360
I think they need to make it right with this girl.

707
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.360
And I do think they need to pay some money

708
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:26.719
for this.

709
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:32.360
They need to because the only way this these Lafuchi

710
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Parish schools are going to learn is that they got

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to pay in their pocketbook.

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To me personally, and I don't have one hundred percent

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of the detail, but I will tell you this just

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as a human being, as an adult and as a parent,

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who's been in the school system as well. An apology

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should go a long way, and if they will address

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these parents who seem completely reasonable. These parents seem completely

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reasonable and say we should have handled this differently, publicly

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apologize for this and state the changes we plan to

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make as a result of this. They're going to fork

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out some cash. I don't know what else they can do.

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It's horrible, but they can make this right. Whether they

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choose to stay hard nos, that's going to be on them,

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and I think that they should pay huge if they

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don't make it right.

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I agree.

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All right, let's go to Oklahoma. We have a convicted

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sex offender who spent thirteen years on the run, but

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