Jan. 4, 2026
DTL - Part 9: Fighting Back
On May 31, 2002, 22 year old LSU Grad Assistant Charlotte Murray Pace was attacked in her Baton Rouge townhouse which she had moved into only days earlier. She was brutally stabbed more than 80 times. Evidence from the crime scene showed that Pace fought her attacker fiercely throughout several rooms of her home. Her struggle was instrumental to the investigation into her murder, as she trapped her killer’s DNA under her fingernails.
This is DTL
Hosted by Kelly Jennings and produced by the experts at Envision Podcast Productions.
Timestamps
01:09 The Rise of Charlotte Murray Pace
06:19 A Day of Celebration Turns Dark
12:01 The Fight for Survival
17:54 The Aftermath of Horror
20:59 Unraveling the Crime Scene
26:27 The Search for Answers
29:37 Another Knock at the Door
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In the sultry heat of Louisiana, where the bayous whisper
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secrets and the air hangs heavy with the scent of magnolias,
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a darkness lurked beneath the surface. Derrick Todd Lee was
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a man whose charm masked a sinister reality. He was
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a monster. Lee, a seemingly ordinary man with a disarming smile,
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led a double life that would unravel in a series
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of murders in the capital city of Baton Rouge and
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the surrounding areas. As the first reports of disappearances and
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murders began to surface, South Louisiana was thrust into a nightmare,
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igniting a frantic search for answers. The true horror was
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just beginning, and the hunt for a serial killer eventually
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known by just three letters, would reveal not only the
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depths of Dereck Todd Lee's depravity, but also the resilience
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of those most affected by his evil acts, the families
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and the survivors. This is DTL. May of two thousand
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and two was an exciting time for students on Lshu's campus.
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As is common with most universities, May is the month
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of graduation for those who have put in the work
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and passed their classes. After graduation, this summer starts and
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the fun begins. Twenty two year old Charlotte Murray Pace
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had already graduated with her undergrad degree, but she was
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now on track to becoming the youngest person to ever
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obtain an MBA at LSU. This girl was smart and
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she had it going on. From the time she could walk.
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She was succeeding at everything she touched. Ballet, sports, academics.
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Murray was a winner, but she also had a spunk
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about her that was undeniable. While having the grace demanded
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of a dancer, she also had the backbone of being
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a leader. Once, when she was six years old, a
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known bully was her harassing kid on the bus. When
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it was her turn to be harassed, she bawled up
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that little fist and punched that kid's square in the nose. Certainly,
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violence wasn't promoted in the house, but guess what, that
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bully never bothered her again. Murray grew into a five
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foot seven inch parent's dream come true, with glossy brown
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hair and a stunning smile. She dominated in school and
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athletics alike. She studied hard, and she was known to
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keep her notes and her books pristine. She was the
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teenager with a full face of makeup when the rest
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of her friends were in T shirts and shorts. She
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was someone that you would look at and think, Wow,
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that's the whole package. She dressed impeccably, always in style,
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with her fashion choices, which she was happy to help
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others master through makeovers if they wanted. She was bubbly
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and happy and full of energy, but she also could
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be stubborn. When she wanted to do something, she wanted
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to do it, even if her parents thought it wasn't
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a good idea. But one thing they definitely agreed on
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was her maturity. She, like others in this series, completed
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high school early, mastering the classes in such speed that
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she was able to skip her senior year entirely, heading
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straight to college at Millsaps College in Jackson, Mississippi. She
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also had the opportunity to play soccer for them while attending.
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Traveling was also something that Murray dreamed of, so when
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she got the opportunity to study abroad, she jumped at
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the chance. She was stoked about the adventure, which lasted
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for about six weeks, and she made good friends in
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the process who hung out during their free time. They
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went to London, Paris, Munich, and Prague, as well as
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to Ireland to celebrate one friend's birthday. She would call
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back home and tell Mama Anne all about her adventures,
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and her mama would beam with pride, knowing that her
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girl was living her dreams. Murray did get her bachelor's
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degree in no time, and by two thousand and two
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she moved to Louisiana to pursue her master's degree at
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none other than Louisiana State University. The home she rented
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was right near campus on Stanford Avenue, and you may
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be thinking, why does that sound familiar? Well, this was
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the same area where Eugenet Woffontaine had called home years
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ago when she was abducted and murdered. That horror was
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now long gone from the media as new tragedies took
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over daily life. But that said, Murray now lived just
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three doors down from the home where Gina Green was
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murdered a few months prior. To say she and roommate
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Rebecca weren't shook by that news would be a lie. However,
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in reality, life goes on when your neighbor is murdered
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and it remains unsolved. Was it scary, of course, I mean,
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it could have been them, after all, But this was
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also something that doesn't happen often and surely wouldn't happen again,
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at least not in the same area. Even so, Murray
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called her mom after Gina's murder, and she was worried
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by the viciousness of it. Murder isn't something you ever
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expect to affect your own life, and here she was
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with a neighbor murdered. She didn't know Gina personally, but
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it still was with her. Mama Anne did exactly what
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you would expect. She reiterated being safe, and of course
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reminded her daughter how much she was loved. I know, Mama,
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I know. Murray was working for the Elishue Alumni Association
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on campus for the moment, but she was excited to
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accept a new job with the firm Deloitte and Touche.
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Murray's master's degree had been completed the week before, which
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focused on internal auditing. The new job would require her
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to move to Atlanta to start her professional career, and
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the thought of moving back to Mississippi with her parents
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just to turn right around and move back to Atlanta. Well,
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that sounded like a lot. She also still had lots
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of activities to attend in Baton Rouge as well as
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some other events. So that said, she decided to stay
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at LSU for the summer, moving in temporarily to a
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new townhome with Rebecca until she could head off to Atlanta.
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The town home was near LSU, but on the other
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side of campus from their previous home near Gina Green.
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Charlotwe Avenue is in an area again full of college students,
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with town homes connected to one another lining multiple streets.
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It was in an area with quick access to River
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Road as well as campus, so it was a good
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area for the girls to live. They had only been
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in their new town home for about a week, still
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not completely unpacked, when they would head out for another
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big event. It was May thirty first, two thousand and two,
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when Murray was packing to head out for her old
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roommate and great friend, Grace Crouch's wedding. The wedding was
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to be held the following day in Alexandria, Louisiana. Life
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was just lifing for these twenty somethings. Graduation and weddings
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and all of the big things that tend to fall
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into place at that age were now becoming a reality
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for them. The excitement was palpable, and the girls were
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giddy with joy for one another's successes. Murray had to
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work that morning for a bid at the Alumni Center,
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but she planned to leave around ten thirty or so
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to head back to the house. Before leaving for the wedding,
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she also had a couple of errands to run. She
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drove a BMW. She was so proud of that BMW
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and she couldn't show up to a wedding with it filthy,
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so around eleven thirty she took it through the car wash.
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Interesting enough, Gina Green also drove a BMW. Murray and
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her roommate Rebecca, had been friends for about six years
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at this point, and the two of them really enjoyed
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living with one another. They were close and they would
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speak throughout the day as close friends do. They made
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plans to meet up at their home around one pm
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to pack the car and hit the road for Grace's wedding.
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The trip was only about a two hour drive, but
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in reality, daytime travel is safer and hey, the party
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could start sooner. Rebecca was a bridesmaid in the wedding
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as well, so she had to be there on time
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and ready for the next day's activities. The town home
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they shared was a modest looking one, but average for
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the area. Most occupants were college runners and not planning
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to live in the area permanently, so the setup was perfect.
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Their town home was the last one on the corner
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of a cross street, which I'm taking the time to
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explain because in murder, just like in real estate, location, location, location,
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it matters. The cross streets of their home both led
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directly to major thoroughfares. One direction hit Brightside, the other Nicholson.
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Either way, a quick getaway with maximum distance was easy,
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especially for someone who was out hunting the grounds looking
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for a new victim, someone young, vibrant, and most importantly,
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someone this specific killer could never have. Someone too successful,
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too joyous, too involved in creating a thriving life to
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ever notice a low life woman abuser who couldn't keep
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a job. Once he lay eyes on Murray for the
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first time, he knew he had his next victim. Whether
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he noticed her shiny BMW or simply saw her beautiful
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face as she walked to her home, no one really knows,
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but however it occurred, Murray had no clue she was
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directly in the sights of a killer, and those sites
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were locked in during broad daylight. Their town home was
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three bedrooms, two bath, sixteen hundred square feet, and the
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layout was really simple. The front door opened to a
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small living room with a fireplace and mantle directly to
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the left from the living room, the kitchen is to
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the left, and to the right were two ground floor bedrooms.
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The kitchen was really a narrow passageway sink and counter
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space on one side, refrigerator and appliances on the other.
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It was narrow enough that only one person could probably
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cook comfortably without bumping into someone else, but two people
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could be in the passageway at the same time. Passing
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through the kitchen, you would enter a small dining area,
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where the stairs led up to a loft area. The
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loft had its own bathroom and its own closets. The
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girls each took a downstairs bedroom, while the upstairs was
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reserved for overnight guests. The small backyard was fenced in,
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and the back door opened directly into that small dining
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area and the staircase. Most commonly, residents would park behind
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their town homes to enter because, as in this instance,
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their town home faced a major roadway and it wasn't
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conducive for daily entering nor parking. So after washing her BMW,
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Murray returned home to finish up packing and await Rebecca's return,
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which was expected to be around one o'clock. Rebecca was
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running a bit late, though, and it ended up being
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more like two pm before she would get there. No worries,
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Murray would be ready to go when she got there,
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so she continued small tasks around the town home, including
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making a sandwich and cracking open an ice cold diet
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Doctor Pepper. Nothing beats that first gulp in the fizz
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of a carbonated drink when you're thirsty, does it. Murray
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then mosied into the small living room and plopped down
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on the couch to relax and eat. But no sooner
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did she sit down, there was a knock at the
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front door. It was a sunny and nice day, and
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because of that it almost put her in a happier mood,
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even when being interrupted. While eating. Setting the sandwich on
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the arm of the sofa, Murray got up to open
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the door. It was only about eight steps away. Nothing
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he would really think twice about. But we all know
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what's coming. What stood just on the other side of
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that thin wooden door, now only seven steps away from
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someone willing to knock in broad daylight, with the intentions
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of horrors beyond what any normal person would even be
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able to imagine. Now five steps away from not making
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it to the wedding. She so looked forward to three
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steps from Murray, never seeing her mother again, one step
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from the scariest minutes that she will ever encounter. And
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then it was zero as she flipped the lock and
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opened the door to a stranger. He smiled and locked
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eyes with her, but behind that kind face, he was
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smiling at his prey. The man was looking for someone
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in the neighborhood. But just as Murray began to explain
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he was at the wrong house, the man's innocent and
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inquisitive face evolved into one of extreme disgust. He couldn't
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hold the ruse anymore as he barreled forward into Murray
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without hesitation, and she found herself instantly in a fight
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for her life. She was behind the ball, and that
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reaction is slower than action. But Derek Toddley vastly underestimated
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what was about to take place inside that home. As
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Murray realized the imminent danger she faced, she switched straight
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into feral mode, putting up a struggle like no other
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woman before. Murray didn't turn and run, No, she pushed back, clawing, shoving,
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and screaming as she attempted to get the man back
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outside of the front door. But physically he was much
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bigger and stronger. The thing was, the adrenaline was coursing
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through Murray's veins, and she wasn't going down without a fight.
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Not only was she steadfast in her attack on life,
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but also in her defense of it. Murray was going
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to put up quite possibly the fiercest fight DTL would
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ever experience against a woman, and for this he would
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become even more enraged. The fight moved room to room,
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from the living room into the kitchen, and back out
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towards the bedrooms, both of them slamming into sheet rock
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and pawing at one another, each desperate to better their
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position in the brawl. Dereck Todd Lee had experience in fighting,
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specifically to the death, while Murray understandably didn't. This disadvantage
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of a sudden adrenaline dump likely created tunnel vision for Murray,
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and while she had an instant boost of raw power,
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she burned through that temporary power quickly. Because of this,
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she was left exhausted much faster than the experienced killer.
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