April 7, 2026

Part 2 | Are You With Me? | The Kouri Richins Murder Case

Part 2 | Are You With Me? | The Kouri Richins Murder Case
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Season 10
Part Two of a Two Part Series On March 4, 2022, Eric, a successful stonemason and devoted father of three young boys — died suddenly after drinking a Moscow Mule his wife prepared for him. The cause? A lethal dose of fentanyl, five times the amount needed to kill. What followed shocked the nation: Kouri, the grieving widow, wrote and self-published a children’s book about coping with loss titled Are You With Me?, appearing on local TV to promote it while secretly facing mounting accusations.

Prosecutors say Kouri poisoned her husband for money — secretly opening nearly $2 million in life insurance policies without his knowledge, forging documents, and attempting to kill him weeks earlier on Valentine’s Day. She also allegedly had an extramarital affair and was drowning in debt. After a highly publicized three-week trial, a jury convicted Kouri Richins on March 16, 2026 of aggravated murder, attempted aggravated murder, insurance fraud, and forgery. She now faces 25 years to life in prison.

Kelly Jennings of “Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings” breaks down the timeline, the evidence, the courtroom drama, and the heartbreaking impact on Eric’s family and their three sons. This is the full, unfiltered story of a picture-perfect family that hid a deadly secret.

Timestamps
05:53 A Dark Turn in the Investigation
12:51 Family Tensions and Accusations
19:05 The Discovery of New Evidence
27:11 Searching for the Truth
34:10 The Fight for Control
46:11 Legal Battles Unfold
59:10 Uncovering Financial Secrets
1:12:11 Carmen's Involvement
1:17:32 The Final Confrontation
1:29:59 Arrest and Trial



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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all, kJ

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You're back with another episode of Unspeakable. What is up?

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How are you? I hope you're having had a fantastic week,

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and I want to let you know I did something

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for you on Patreon, so my Patreon members, I had

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a suggestion from awesome mister Jim that is a not

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Jim Chapman, a follower listener mister Jim that said, Kelly,

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is there any way you can put the DTL series

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that could possibly be the reason why. Now we're going

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to finish up the two part series that I started

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last week with you, and so let me give you

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a quick recap because people always want that. But Eric

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Ritchins was found dead in his bedroom after experiencing what

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seemed to be a cardiac event, and he was pronounced

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dead at the scene after efforts by first responders failed

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to try to revive him. His wife, Corey, told Eric's

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family that his autopsy showed that his death was attributed

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to two things. One was COVID, but she also said

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that there had been he had gotten a fungal infection

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which they realized was or not realized, but I guess

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understood to be the exact same thing that had killed

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Eric's mother prior to that, so that was rather odd

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and then everyone was shocked. But they wanted to await

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a more in depth toxicology report that the Emmy was

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going to do to see was there something else that

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possibly could be attributed to his death. And when that

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toxicology panel came back, they found that his death was

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actually a fentanyl overdose, also combined with he was showing COVID,

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so no one could believe it. Eric was not a

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drug addict. He had never been a drug addict. And

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if you aren't, I mean, I don't know where you've

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been if you don't know what fentanyl is. But fentanyl

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is not a starter drug like marijuana or something. I mean,

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fentanyl is hardcore, right, So this isn't something that you

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would just accidentally get a hold of for you to

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be dying of an overdose, so tragedy. No one knew

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how this got in his system. They were trying to

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figure it out. Time did pass. Corey, the wife, would

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eventually go on to write a children's book, and it

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was all about navigating the grief of losing not only

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her husband, but also her children's questions throughout this process

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and how bad it had affected them, and all of

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that again is in part one. So if you haven't

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listened to that yet go listen because there's going to

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be spoiler alerts in this one. But she wrote that book,

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she was promoting that book, and it was doing really,

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really well. But now one of Eric's sisters knew that

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Eric was wanting a divorce from Corey at one point

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due to some financial misgivings that he felt Corey had

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done that kind of tricked him or just he wasn't

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made aware of it, so it kind of felt shisty.

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unaware of, and so the sister was now pointing the

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finger at Corey and saying, you know what, I think

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you might have done something to my brother because you

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don't know that I know about all of that financial

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stuff that went down. So picking up there, the sister

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Katie told police this and said, you know, my brother

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had talked about divorce, he had done some other things,

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and so she took that to the police, and police decided,

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you know, we don't really have anything else to go

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on right now, We're gonna look into your suggestion. And

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that is where this episode is picking up, when they're

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looking more deeply into the people that were involved in

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the Daily Lives of the riches, not just Corey, but

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actually a lot of people. And so a bunch of

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people would find themselves really put under a microscope to

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see what do you know and what exactly do you

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know about what was going on behind closed doors if anything.

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But before I go into that, I want to back

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up just a little bit, and I want to back

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up to it just a couple of weeks right after

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Eric's Eric's death, Okay, Corey. When when Eric died, Corey

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was completely unaware that her life was about to be

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turned upside down. She did not have any clue that

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the finger pointing and the accusations coming from Eric's sisters

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was going to start. And Corey's best friend, uh one

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that she had had since childhood. Her name was Chelsea.

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I believe she swooped in Okay and she came to

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support Corey. Obviously, she just lost her husband. She was

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in a devastated state and things were just not going well.

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with Eric's death, Corey was really needing someone more than

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ever to lean on and to just be there for her.

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happy to be there for I mean, hell, let me

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tell you this, Corey. They were so tight that Corey

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had even helped her out tremendously in the recent year

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or so because Chelsea was looking for a home and

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she needed one pretty quickly that she could buy, and

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so Corey, being her best friend, stepped up in a

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huge way. Because remember Corey flipped houses. That was what

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she did and that's how she brought money into the family. Well,

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Corey was flipping a house that was now available to

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sell and it was perfect. She knew that her bestie

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would love this house. So the home was valued at

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approximately three hundred and sixty thousand dollars. But Corey, being

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her bestie, she set up Chelsea like a queen. And

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this is what I mean, rather than go through the

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rigmarole of everything it takes to buy a house and

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all of that, I mean, Corey already owned the house

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she was flipping it. So she told Chelsea, look, you

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just pay me the forty five thousand dollars that I'm

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out basically for doing the flip. That'll be considered the

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down payment on the house. I'll you put that back

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in the account, and then Corey said, I'll sign the

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deed over to you. It's not a big deal, and

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so that's what they did. She gave Corey the forty

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five thousand that Corey was out for flipping the house.

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Corey then signed over and gave the deed to Chelsea. Now,

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rather than go through all the closing costs and doing

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all of that mess, what they decided was that Chelsea

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was going to continue to pay the mortgage, but the

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mortgage was going to stay in Corey's name so that

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they could avoid I guess the extra costs and all

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of that stuff. So Chelsea, obviously they're best friends. And

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so Chelsea went on and she continued to pay a

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twenty eight hundred dollars house note to the mortgage company

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thereafter never faulted on it. And I mean, the deed

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was already hers, and so you know, Corey was the

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one who took all the risk in this. Just to

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point that out, but that's how tight these friends were.

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Corey was willing to stick her neck out, trusted her friend,

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signed over a deed to her, and then Chelsea was

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going to pay back the money to the mortgage. I

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mean that's huge. I don't know. I mean, I have

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best friends, and I don't know that I'm doing that

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for my best friends, you know, but that's what they did.

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So when the toxicology report came back about Eric's death

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being an overdoor dose, Corey confided in Chelsea that, you know,

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this is just insane. This is insanity. This cannot be

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my life. And now she tells Chelsea that I've been

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handed another blow. Okay, they just keep coming. This keeps

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getting worse because her sister in law, Katie, the one

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that was you know, uh, pointing fingers at her and saying,

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I don't know that you didn't have something to do

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with my brother's death. Well, Katie had now broken the

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news to Corey that the home that Corey owned with Eric,

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well guess what, Corey, She tells her, this is not

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your house directly anymore. See in episode one, I told

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you that before Eric died, he had set up a

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trust along with some other financial changes. Well, this included

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that when Eric died or not when, but if Eric died,

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that their house was to be placed into that trust,

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and he was the sole director of that trust. But

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the fact now that because it was a living will,

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a living trust situation, so when he died, he had

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set up his sister Katie as the trustee. When Corey

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found this out, she's now livid. You know, her her

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whole life is falling apart. But you know, just right

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in front of her eyes, not only did she just

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lose her husband, the father of her children, but now

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Corey's sister and laws kind of in her face, going

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I think you did this, and now says ha ha, Basically,

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you don't even own the house you live in. I'm

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in control of it. So part of her anger, and

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I think we could all identify with that. I would

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be pissed. I would be absolutely pissed that my whole

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life seemed to be just the rug pulled out from

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under my feet. But part of her anger was that, Okay,

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even if the house was put in a trust, I, Corey,

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I still invested a shit ton of my money that

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I earned into this house, not just Eric. How can

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this be even be fair? She had paid sixty thousand

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dollars cash for the pool that they had put in

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in the back. Corey made that money, not Eric, alongside

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other investments and updates and things that they had done

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in the house. And so I've got to say, I

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really understand the viewpoint and the frustration here that this

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is just unfair. What do you get control my investment?

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I don't like this, you know, it's not right. And

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so she he pick up the phone. She even called

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Eric's best friend. His name was Bryce, and she was

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venting to Bryce about all of this, like, what in

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the hell? Bryce, Like, you know, She's crying, this is

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not fair, this is not how this is supposed to be.

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What in the hell. And so she gets so upset

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by this, and now the accusations are flying, which doesn't

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help everybody's at odds they're fighting. She gets so mad

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that she tells Bryce that she's going to file a

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lawsuit against the rich and the rich In family because

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all of the other assets, aside everything else they own,

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and they owned a ton of properties and things, all

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of that aside, She said, the house I live in

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that I rear my children in is my house. Be

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damned everything else. I still should have control of my

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house that I live in. So whenever she's on the

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phone talking to Bryce, she's gid it on speakerphone, and Chelsea,

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her best friend, is like, we're going to record all

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of this because basically the family, the Riches's family, the

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sisters and all of that, they were now absolutely refusing

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to communicate at all with Corey until that autopsy toxicology

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report had come back. Now, let me tell you this,

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at the point in time that they were recording this

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conversation with Bryce, they hadn't gotten it back yet. Okay,

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So to put it into perspective, it's kind of hard

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to tell the story with multiple things happening, but you

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realize it after the fact. So that's kind of why

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I'm kind of moving about here. But so since they

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weren't talking to her, Chelsea says, look, you need to

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record everything so that you've got documentation of everything. But

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the family was now scrutinizing everything that Corey was doing.

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But this is something I have to point out to you.

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Eric and Corey had been fighting, but it was in

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the past, okay, the past past that that loan she

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took out and the money that he felt like, you know,

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she took out without his knowledge, and that was real screwy.

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That had happened years prior whenever Eric made all those

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changes and stuff. That had been years prior, and they

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had been in a scuffle about it, but they had

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worked through that. They continued forward and while they had

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initially talked about divorce back then, they decided to work

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through it and they had Okay. So, I mean they

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had gone to marriage counseling and everything. They went through

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all of these things, and so I don't want it

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to make it seem like that happened a week before

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his death or something that's not true. It had been

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years in the past. And Bryce was compassionate and said, look,

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I really don't know what to say. You know, I

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wish things were easier between you and the rich and family,

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but I don't know what to say here. It's just

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a tough situation. Now. He did say that, you know, Corey,

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you do have to realize that Eric was pissed back then,

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you know, and he had spoken about divorce to his family.

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They haven't forgotten about that, even though it was years back,

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and they love him too. He was trying to just

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talk voice of reason into Corey, like, look at both

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sides of this, and Corey's like Bryce. The the medical

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examiner even said he had white pustules on his lungs

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with white fluid that were covered in it. It's a

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fungal infection in his lungs. You know. She's like, that's

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what he told me. And she was like, there's no

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way that he had COVID because he was fine when

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he went to bed bryce and we took a COVID

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test he was negative a week before. So she's like,

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this is just a total and complete emotional shit show.

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Everything here is just not jiving. But on the rich

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and family side of things, they believed that there was

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something more than what met the eye when it came

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to Eric's death. They in no way, now that the

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report the toxicology had come back, they had in no way,

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ever ever in a million years, would believe that Eric

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would have taken fentanyl willingly. So as a result of this,

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they decided as a family to hire a private investigator.

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Now this was done in March of twenty twenty two,

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and they wanted that private investigator to come in and

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to look more deeply into the lives of Eric and Corey.

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So the name of this investigator was Todd Gabler, And

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I guess you could say Gabbler however you want to

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pronounce it. But he was an older gentleman, but he

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had thirty roughly years of experience doing private investigation work,

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so he had a very methodical way about how he

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wanted to do things. And he started by listening to

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the nine one one call, or wanting to listen rather

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to the nine to one one call. But he would

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immediately hit a roadblock from the jump. He would hit

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a roadblock because whenever he requested that nine to one

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one call, the Sheriff's office denied him access to it. Now,

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I know, right now, you're like, wait a minute, wait

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a minute, why he did a public records request for that, Well,

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they still have an active investigation going too, And while

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I don't have in depth knowledge as to why that

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would be, my guess is because they don't want anyone

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interfering with their investigation. But this PI appealed that decision

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and said no, I should be allowed access to it.

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Blah blah blah blah blah. But again, at this time

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he was denied access to the nine to one one call.

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So basically, without being able to hear anything, his task

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was determined to determine kind of two things here. A,

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did Eric take his own life, possibly whether by accident

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or on purpose with the fentanyl or b was it

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possible that Corey had somehow poisoned him with the fentanyl?

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And if and a big if here, if she poisoned him, why,

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that's what we want to know. And so they said,

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we want tangible proof of what is going on here

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because we have our thoughts, but thoughts are like, you know, assholes,

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everybody's got one. We want tangible proof. So PI says,

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I got you. I'm gonna do my thing. So overall,

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the PI would interview between forty and fifty people during

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his investigation, including friends, family, associates of the rich Ins,

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and kind of some other people too that may have

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somehow been involved in what was going on because he

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wanted to get an idea about who they were behind

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closed doors. And guys, I don't care what we say.

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Everybody has a little bit different tendencies behind closed doors.

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And it could be as simple as don't you clean

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your house spotless before somebody comes over? And no one good?

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And damn well, you don't live like that. Your kids

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would tearing shit up your laundry ten feet high in

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the laundry room. But we make it look appearances wise

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that we got our shit together. If not, maybe I'm

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alone in there. But tis I, please don't ever go

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on my launry room if you come in my house,

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because it's all smoking mirrors. Okay, but it could be

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something as simple as that up through I don't know. Shit,

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people may cross dress behind closed doors. You don't know,

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all right, So he really wanted to get down to

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the nitty gritty of what was going on in terms

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of tangible evidence, and so what he decided to do

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was to look at the phone records of both Eric

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and Corey. Phone records will tell you a lot, okay,

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But there was an issue here because now that the

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lines in the sand had been drawn between Corey and

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the rich and Family and there was squabbling going on

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that was heated, and me she wasn't going to just

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hand over her phone records to a PI, especially when

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hired by the rich and Family. But it would turn

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out that he actually didn't even need her help because

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through his job and investigating, he realized that CNE, which

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is the name of the company that the masonry company

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that Eric owned, CNE, was paying their phone bills. Well,

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now that Eric was dead, Cody Wright was now the

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sole owner of the company, and so Cody Wright gave

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permission to the PI and provided the phone records to him.

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Now you're like CNE, Now it's making sense. Hopefully, Ce

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is Cody Wright. He is Eric Ritchens. They made C

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and E masonry, all right. So, as you can imagine,

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this would become a massive undertaking to assess and figure

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out who was who, because guys, think about a phone

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record that you get of all the phone calls you've made.

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The names aren't listed on the phone records. It's just

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phone numbers, okay. And think about all the calls that

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would have been made between both of their phones for

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business purposes, personal purposes, I mean everything. So he had

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to start by meticulously figuring out who everyone was on

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the phone logs and then assign them a number, a name,

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and then go through And his plan at that point

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was to look for trends in the call records. Okay.

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So for example, you look at my phone records, you're

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gonna see a ton of phone calls to my kids,

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to my husband, and to my mama, and then you'll

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see some other ones periodically in there. Oh and there'll

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be a bunch to Jim too, because that's who I

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communicate with the most throughout the day. So what he

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noticed at first was that there were hundreds and hundreds

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of texts and calls from Corey's top two communications as

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he identified them. Those two communications were her husband, Eric

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and her mother. Makes sense, But starting around January of

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twenty twenty two, there was a massive uptick in messages

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to a particular number that then dropped off again almost

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completely by May. So January to May he saw a

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huge uptick in communication to this one number, so he

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dove in to determine who this was. But when he

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identified the person, it was like, oh, because it was

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their housekeeper. Her name was Carmen. It was her communicating

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with her housekeeper. So doing what pi's do, he didn't

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just stop there and say, oh, well she cleans the house.

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Of course they're going to be communicating a lot. He

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wanted to do a background check on Carmen and see

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what Carmen was about, so he puts in for a

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request for a background check on her. Well, at the

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same time that this was going on, police were now

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invested in determining what had happened to Eric and how

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he ended up dead. This is going on obviously at

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the same time. Now pis may work with law enforcement

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to an extent on certain certain levels. But they're not

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like agencies that work together. It's almost like they have

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different goals at times, but sometimes they may overlap in

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what they do. So I don't want you to think

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the PI was sitting next to the police and they're

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working together, because that's not the case at all. Here.

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So the night of Eric's death, the police, when they

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arrived his investigation death investigation was assigned to a detective

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named Jamie Woody. By the way, this is a female detective.

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So Jamie Woody was assigned as the lead detective on

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the call. So I've already outlined everything that happened that

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morning in episode one, but there was one thing that

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Eric's sister, Amy, not Katie. Katie is the one who

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was in control of the trust. Amy is the other sister.

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There was something that Amy had told the detective Woody

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in the driveway as she just approached the house that

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now had her kind of thinking. And it's that Amy

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approached her and said, listen, I just want you to

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know that my brother and his wife had been troubles

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in the past and just you need to keep that

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in mind. So just to be you know, just be

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frank with you. That happens families that maybe don't like

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a wife might say, oh, you need to look at her.

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I mean, people are in a heightened state of emotion

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and they're wanting answers, and so just because someone says

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that doesn't necessarily mean you know, that's the God's honest

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truth or whatever. So, but she noted that that was

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said to her. So Detective Woodie also noted that after

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Eric was you know, found deceit or declared deceased, and

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they were doing their basic kind of investigation and looking

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around the house, that the trash cans in the bedroom

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and in the bathroom were empty, and she just was

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curious as to why it was three o'clock in the morning,

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four o'clock in the morning when all this is going on.

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So she directly had asked Corey, why are the trash

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cans all empty? Why is there nothing in them? And

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Corey said, oh, well, my housekeeper has just been here.

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She had emptied all of our trash, our trash cans,

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and she's like, okay, well, what's her name in info? Well,

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when she asked for the name of Info, Corey was stumbling.

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She could not recall her name. Okay, maybe it was

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the stress of everything. She was blanking out. She was

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obviously crying and not She's like, I couldn't think. She

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couldn't think. That's what she her issue was. So the

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detective asked, Okay, can I go look in your kitchen

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garbage cans? Can I go look in some other garbage cans?

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Corey said, absolutely, just go. And so why were they

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doing that? Just so you know, well, they were looking

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for possible drugs, okay, because everything at that moment seemed

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to it looked like a drug overdose was happening, but

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there was nothing there that you would normally see at

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a drug overdose scene, so that she was just looking

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for anything illicit. So, considering everything that was happening in

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the moment at the scene, that was really all that

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she could do because there was no probable cause or

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anything to warrant her cur the entire house, and all

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of this procedurally matters on why things are done the

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way that they're done. Sure Enough, though the trash can

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in the kitchen had not been emptied in there, or

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if it was emptied, you know, they had continued to

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live there that evening, so there was trash in that

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trash can, but they found nothing. So the detective, though

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she didn't just wipe her hands up and go, oh,

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well there's nothing here, you know whatever, No, I mean,

461
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.240
the detective decided to go a step further and got

462
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:30.039
Eric's health records via his sister Katie, which she reviewed

463
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.960
herself and then she also provided to the medical examiner.

464
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.839
So the detective also requested, Katie, you know, can you

465
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.119
give me any copies of Eric's will or any paperwork

466
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.000
or anything that I might need that can assist me

467
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.440
during my investigation. Katie said, no problem and handed all

468
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:50.279
of that over. Well for time's sake here, so you'll understand,

469
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:56.559
it was nearly five weeks later before that extended toxicology

470
00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.279
panel came back. Okay, that was in April of twenty

471
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.359
twenty two. That's whenever they found out about the massive

472
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.960
fentanyl overdose. So there was a five week span before

473
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:09.279
they even realized that something was really a miss and

474
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:13.039
it wasn't an aneurysm or or anything like that. So

475
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.680
at that point she was able to secure a warrant

476
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:20.160
to search the home, the cars, any devices, or anything

477
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.720
at their Richines home, so that was executed just a

478
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.799
few days later on April the thirteenth. Now, when she

479
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.039
arrives with the team to go execute that warrant, obviously

480
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.599
Corey's like, what's happening here, what's going on? And she

481
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.519
told Corey that Eric's cause of death at that time

482
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.759
was why this warrant was approved and being executed. They

483
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.319
searched the house, but nothing was ultimately found. Okay, there

484
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.119
was no smoking gun, there was no bag of fentanyl,

485
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.920
you know of stuffed under a mattress or something like that.

486
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:54.680
So at that point the detective is like, Okay, well,

487
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.559
I want to see your cell phones. I want to

488
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.759
see what all is going on. Her thought process basically

489
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.880
being if a drug dealer, because they know that this

490
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:08.880
drug was illicit, illicitly made, then maybe Eric contacted a

491
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.599
drug dealer and got the drugs. Hell maybe Corey did.

492
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:16.039
But basically she seized their cell phones at that time.

493
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.400
So they did find THHC gummies in the house. I'm

494
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.079
not gonna consider that to be like a huge like

495
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:27.519
dun't dun't, dun't, because in today's age, everybody and their

496
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:31.920
mama seems to use THHC or chew the gummies. Plus

497
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.039
when they took those gummies and they sent them to

498
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:39.960
the crime lab by May second, so just again another

499
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:44.039
two weeks later, they found that when they tested those gummies,

500
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.319
there was no fentanyl at all in any of the

501
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:51.359
gummies that they found two days later. Is whenever the

502
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:56.039
cell phones were uh got to gotten to at that

503
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:57.839
point and they were able to be dumped and then

504
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.920
a search through the cell phones could be done. But

505
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:06.200
at this point police were trying to basically hone in

506
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.400
where could this fentanyl possibly come from? And what they

507
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.000
found on Corey's phone was that there were a lot

508
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:18.119
of deletions that had been done historically on the phone

509
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.680
and there was nothing really found on Eric's phone. But

510
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.279
besides the fact that Corey had at some point deleted

511
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.880
some things off of the phone, it didn't mean anything

512
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.200
in that moment. I mean, obviously, why do you delete stuff?

513
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.839
But I mean I delete messages, I delete stuff when

514
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.759
my storage is full. So they would need more about that.

515
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.119
But that was basically all they found. And truth be told,

516
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:46.319
the investigation was stalling. Okay, there was really nothing that

517
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:53.680
was being found. But the PI Todd Gabler by now

518
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:58.640
he had spoken to a lot of people and some

519
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:04.039
things were stood out to him in these conversations. They

520
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.160
may not mean anything to you or me, but it

521
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:12.559
stood out to the PI. For one. Eric's sister, Katie

522
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.160
Now told the PI that the morning of Eric's death, okay,

523
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.720
when she showed up at the house, she had been

524
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:25.039
thinking about it, and she said that Corey's appearance bothered her.

525
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:28.880
It really bothered her that morning because thinking back on it,

526
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.599
she said, Look, we've been on a lot of vacations together,

527
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:35.079
and I will put a picture, a still shot from

528
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.319
bodycam of Corey that morning, so you can look at

529
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.960
it and decide what you think. But Katie told the PI, look,

530
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.119
We've been on a lot of family vacations together over

531
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:46.039
the years, and I have seen Corey in the early

532
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:47.880
morning times, and I have seen her in the middle

533
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.599
of the night. And that night at that house when

534
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.160
I showed up, it just wasn't what I was used

535
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.240
to seeing, because she said, Corey looked much more put

536
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:02.480
together than I recall her being at night. I mean,

537
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.799
she found Eric dead in the middle of the night,

538
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.240
but she was in matching pajamas and her hair was

539
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:10.599
up in a bun, and her bun looked a little

540
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:16.200
too neat. So you know, you can look at that

541
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.200
a couple of different ways. You could look at that

542
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.559
as a sister grasping at straws. You could look at

543
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.599
that as a sister who hates Cory now and saying

544
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.119
she looked too good. I wear matching pjs at night.

545
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.319
FYI then maybe too much information, So I mean, I

546
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:32.200
don't know that matching pj's necessarily means anything, but she

547
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.799
brought it up. So the PI was like, okay, so

548
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:37.759
he took note of that, but she said, but there

549
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.599
was something else that really bothers me too, looking back

550
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.599
on it. So, Corey's brother was engaged to a woman

551
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.599
named Brie Well. Brie had come to the house. Okay,

552
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.279
because after Corey's started making phone calls and calling everybody,

553
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.119
oh my god, oh my god, Eric isn't breathing. He's

554
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.039
not breathing. All the family started rushing to the house,

555
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:04.400
and that included bri Well. Whenever Corey and Katie were

556
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.480
kind of like hugging and sobbing, they kind of fell

557
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:10.119
to the floor together crying and hugging. Brie came in

558
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.519
at one point and Brie said to Corey, oh my god,

559
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.640
you know, you know what are we going to do

560
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.200
because now it was the early morning hours. Okay, it's

561
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.359
not still three am, it's earlier in the morning, like

562
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.920
the day work day should have been started by them.

563
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.920
And Brie says, you're supposed to be closing on that property. Now.

564
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.359
The property she was talking about they referred to as

565
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:36.119
what they call the Midway Mansion. It was a massive

566
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.160
house that Corey was the middle of, or not in

567
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:43.240
the middle, but had completed flipping, and she was supposed

568
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:48.319
to close on that house that morning, massive project that

569
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.359
she was very proud to have completed. A matter of fact,

570
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.599
that's what her and Eric had been kind of celebrating

571
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.720
the night before, was the closing of this Midway mansion.

572
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.599
But it was Corey's response to Brie that now had

573
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:02.799
Katie's eyebrows raised, because even though they were crying and

574
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.039
everything about Eric, it was like Corey immediately just went

575
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.079
straight into matter of fact business mode and gave Bree

576
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.200
exact instructions on what to do about that. And Katie

577
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.039
was kind of dumbfounded by it, and she's like, are

578
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:21.240
you serious? Are we serious? Right now? My brother is

579
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:25.279
dead in the other room, and you're gonna continue with

580
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.640
a closing on a house today, and Corey looked at

581
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.599
her and said, yeah, I mean, what do you want

582
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.799
me to do? The money has already gone through, there's

583
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.079
this I've got to close on its business. There's nothing

584
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:41.279
I can do. And Katie was like sitting there going considering,

585
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.440
I can't even function right now. I mean, Katie was

586
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:46.440
actually hyperventilating at that point. She's like, I couldn't even function,

587
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.720
I couldn't even think straight. But she's able to just

588
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:53.119
give directions on selling a house, Like, what does that

589
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.599
even matter right now? How can you be like that? Well,

590
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:03.559
you know, again, people grieve differently, people process things differently,

591
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.759
and you know, it was true that this was a

592
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.840
massive closing that was supposed to happen that day and

593
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:13.400
and other people were involved in it. So it just

594
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:18.039
irked Katie and she wanted that PI to know that. Well.

595
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:23.719
Then later on that day, once everyone was more adjusted

596
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.719
to the news, Okay, so way, you know, by the

597
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.960
end of the day it was established Eric's dead. It's horrible,

598
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.760
But by the end of the day they've now at

599
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.519
least been able to stomach at the shock of it.

600
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:39.519
Is kind of dying down. Okay, they're able to stomach it. Well,

601
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:43.400
Corey and Katie started talking about, oh my god, you know,

602
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.360
what are we going to do? He was the matriarchy,

603
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:48.599
you know, not the may almostaid the matriarch, but but

604
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.800
he was the leader of the family. He was everything

605
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.159
that you know, was in charge. I guess at the family,

606
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.960
what are we going to do? And Corey told Katie, well,

607
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.280
I think I know what I'll do with a masonry business.

608
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.719
I'm going to hire our family friend. His name was TJ,

609
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.519
and he can run Eric's side of things for now.

610
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.840
And Katie just looked up at her and said what

611
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.599
And She's like, yeah, well, I'll just hire TJ. TJ can.

612
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.719
TJ can handle it for now, and that's what I'll do.

613
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:22.880
And Katie, now looking back on that, was like, how

614
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.280
the hell did she have time to figure that out

615
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:27.039
or sort that out or even come up with that

616
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:32.960
thought that quickly? You know, again judgmental, but it bothered Katie.

617
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:37.519
So the PI listened intently to every complaint that Katie had,

618
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.360
and then he started kind of explaining things to Katie

619
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.280
and he said, listen, I'm gonna do what you hired

620
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.519
me to do. I'm gonna do that but I need

621
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:55.000
to know right now that good, bad, or indifferent, whether

622
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.119
you like my findings or you don't like my findings,

623
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:03.400
that you will accept my findings because you are very

624
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:05.800
emotional right now. You are all over the place, you

625
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.719
are pointing fingers, and maybe what you're saying has foundation,

626
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.840
but maybe it doesn't. So can I trust that when

627
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:15.639
you hire me to do this job, you know that

628
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.840
you're gonna believe my outcome. I need to know. And

629
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.800
Katie looked at it and said, okay, yes, whatever you

630
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:29.920
find I will accept. So the investigator from that point

631
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.840
forward is like, all right, let's keep talking. What else happened, Well,

632
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.920
there had been another incident that happened that they also

633
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.000
the family also wanted to bring up, and it didn't

634
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.079
have to do with Katie. It had to do with

635
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:44.880
Corey and Eric's other sister, Amy, because they had tied

636
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.039
up in a fight the day after Eric died. So

637
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.559
people were over at the house. They were obviously trying

638
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.920
consoling one another, bringing food, doing all the things you

639
00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:00.239
do when there's a passing. And during all of this,

640
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.119
someone brought up the will and the plans and like,

641
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.199
what are we going to do? What's what's gonna go

642
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.559
on here? And and Corey was like, well, yeah, let

643
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.840
me let me go get the will. So she goes

644
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.360
to open the safe in their bedroom and she can't

645
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.320
get it open. Why because she doesn't have the key.

646
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.559
So she made a phone call and she called a

647
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.840
locksmith to come over to open the safe for her

648
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.599
so that she could get the will out. It just

649
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:37.199
so happened that Amy, the sister, happened to be driving

650
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.719
by the house and she saw that locksmith truck in

651
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.800
the driveway, very clearly with the logo on the side Locksmith,

652
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:50.639
and she scarred her car up into that driveway and

653
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.840
she busted up into that house and said what are

654
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.239
you doing? And cory Lee turned said what do you mean?

655
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:57.519
What am I doing? I'm opening up the safe And

656
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.760
Amy said, you can't do that. That's safe doesn't belong

657
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.639
to you, It belongs to the trust. Why don't you

658
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.559
just call my dad. My dad has a key. My

659
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.559
dad will come and open it for you. You don't

660
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:12.280
need to be breaking in to this safe. Well, as

661
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.599
the two women start arguing, and there's already the brewing

662
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.000
feud between the families, and now they're screaming at each other.

663
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:24.440
The emotions and everything are just overflowing. It goes into

664
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:29.440
a massive downward spiral and it just becomes a cat fight.

665
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:36.760
Because Corey was unaware about this entire trust situation that

666
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.079
Amy was bringing up, about the safe and everything else.

667
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.119
Corey's like, that is not true, and I'm so sick

668
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.400
of this shit. And they end up in a fight,

669
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:51.280
and Corey commences to paunching and beating Amy about face

670
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.679
and the neck. I mean, Amy's fighting back too. Now,

671
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.880
I'm not acting like she's you know, you know, just

672
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.599
a lamb at slaughter here. No, she's swiping back and

673
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.719
swinging at Corey too, And so everybody is to jump

674
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.599
in and pull these two women apart. It was so

675
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:08.039
bad that they end up calling the police to come

676
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.760
to the house. Well, when the police get there, you know,

677
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.760
they're like, damn, lady, you know, separate shit. You know,

678
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:18.639
where's the paperwork? And Corey's like, it's in the safe

679
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.159
and Amy's like, no, she can't open the safe. That's

680
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.119
part of the trust. Blah blah blah blah blah. So

681
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:27.119
the cops, being the intelligent ones at the moment, they

682
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.800
call the attorney that's in charge of the will and

683
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.239
all of that stuff and the trust. And so when

684
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:42.480
they make the phone call, the attorney says, sure enough, Corey,

685
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:47.440
you can't open that safe because everything, and I mean

686
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.599
everything is in a trust and you are not the

687
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:58.000
person that's in charge of that trust. And Corey is

688
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:04.719
like blown away, She's absolutely blown away. So now she

689
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:08.159
lost her husband, she lost control of her own home,

690
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.800
and now it's kind of broken to her pretty bluntly

691
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.079
that you're not in charge of anything. You're at the

692
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:21.039
mercy of Katie, Eric's sister, where there is no love

693
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:28.039
lost between the two of them. Okay, so huge rift

694
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:32.159
and divide is now placed in this family. They're all

695
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.760
trying to control what the other one does. And in

696
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:41.159
Corey's eyes, now she is completely controlled and being dominated

697
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:45.199
by the sisters, and she is becoming more and more

698
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:50.400
and more furious at the overstep of these sisters. They

699
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:54.360
lost their brother, Corey has lost her husband and everything

700
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.039
that goes along with it, you know, the life that

701
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:02.840
they built together. So on March sixth, like I said,

702
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.920
just days after all of Eric's death, Corey hit a

703
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:11.880
breaking point. She was done. She said that she wanted

704
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:16.320
to sell the house and just start anew afresh and

705
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:17.840
just be done with it. She wanted to wash her

706
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.920
hands of it. But Katie comes back the sister and says, sorry,

707
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:25.079
you can't sell the house. I am in control of

708
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:31.159
the trust. So it was then that she very plainly

709
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:35.800
detailed to Corey that I know all about what you

710
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.719
did financially. Eric had confided that in me. Not only that,

711
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.599
but before Eric died he made changes to the will

712
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:48.599
and all of the estate planning and everything. And I

713
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.559
knew about this, okay, And she said, I'm going to

714
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:53.679
lay it out for you so that there are no

715
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.480
more surprises to you, because you seem to not understand.

716
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:02.159
And basically this was the deal according to the paperwork.

717
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:08.159
In early twenty nineteen is whenever Corey had allegedly opened

718
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.679
a bank account without Eric's knowledge. That's whenever she borrowed

719
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.039
that two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and then withdrew

720
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.000
one hundred thousand dollars from their account. She had charged

721
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.199
the thirty thousand dollars to the credit cards. Basically, okay,

722
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.639
all that had happened back in twenty nineteen, well, in

723
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:28.079
twenty twenty, okay, that is whenever Eric had decided at

724
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.639
first that he was going to consult a divorce attorney,

725
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.760
and back then is whenever he had moved his estate

726
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.760
into a trust that, like I told you, Katie was

727
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.840
going to be the trustee of, and he did it

728
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:49.519
back then specifically to protect his assets from Corey. But

729
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:55.039
remember they had worked through that, Okay, so you have

730
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.199
to hear that through the lens of Corey's ears right now, though,

731
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.639
that you know you did all that back then, and

732
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.400
Eric didn't trust you back then, and so he made

733
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:06.679
these changes. So whenever he went and saw that divorce

734
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.199
attorney two years prior, it was completely on the slick.

735
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.960
He didn't talk to Corey about it. Basically, he was

736
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.840
trying to vet his options before the huge blow up

737
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.039
that he felt was inevitable. And after he went and

738
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.119
had a two and a half hour meeting with that attorney,

739
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.320
the realization didn't really hit Eric that he was going

740
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:32.000
to have to share custody of his kids and he

741
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.000
would not get to see them every day if he

742
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:38.360
and Corey divorced, and he could not fathom not seeing

743
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.280
his children every day of his life. So it seemed

744
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:49.159
that he wasn't quite ready to completely cut the cord.

745
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:51.719
He loved Corey, but he was not going to be

746
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:58.280
financially strapped or lied to by his wife. He just

747
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.320
wasn't going to do that either. So basically what ended

748
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.679
up happening was that attorney said, look, if you're not

749
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:06.800
ready to cut the cord just yet, maybe I should

750
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.840
suggest that you go see this other attorney friend of mine,

751
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:15.079
and why don't you just revoke Corey's power of attorney

752
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.280
over you or any of the properties or anything like

753
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:21.760
that that would at least financially protect you in the

754
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.360
event of a blow up down the road. And it

755
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.719
made complete sense. So he went and he met with

756
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:29.119
that attorney. Her name was Crystal Carter. He went and

757
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.519
met with her four times before his death, and the

758
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.079
changes were as follows the original prenup that they had

759
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:41.159
signed at their wedding that Corey knew about that said

760
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:46.360
that the masonry business would remain his and he wanted

761
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:51.519
to make a change though that everything else outside of

762
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.800
that prenup, he wanted to make sure that it was

763
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:59.239
left to his kids. He made that very clear. He

764
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.800
explicitly he stated that he wanted to be buried, and

765
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.480
he assigned Katie as the trustee. Of the estate. So

766
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.840
basically stated, Katie had full control of the estate, but

767
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.760
she still had to follow all of the rules laid

768
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.480
out by Eric while he was still alive that would

769
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.199
also have to be followed in the event of his death.

770
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.559
She was the trustee, but she was not just handed

771
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.440
everything that he had free and clear. There were rules

772
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:31.840
in place. It was business. So as the days pass,

773
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.599
things obviously did not improve. The two families felt like

774
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:36.519
Corey may have had something to do with his death,

775
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.199
and she just wanted to try to continue to give

776
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.599
her kids some semblance of a normal life, but now

777
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.079
all of that was being stripped from her, and three

778
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.079
weeks after Eric's death, Corey did in fact go and

779
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:53.000
file a civil suit against Katie as the trustee of

780
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.199
the trust. Just like she had said to Bryce, I

781
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.159
mean I'm gonna have to I mean my house, Like hell,

782
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.880
give me the house. Let me at least control my house.

783
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.360
You know, we live here. Well, that move would now

784
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:10.480
solidify that the women would remain at odds throughout this

785
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.239
entire investigation, and rather than work together to solve the

786
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.320
death of the man that they both loved, obviously in

787
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:19.480
different capacities, they were going to be at odds throughout

788
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.719
all of it and would never work alongside each other.

789
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.400
So the PI was continuing his investigation and the police

790
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.480
were doing theirs as well. Again, like I said, independently,

791
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.440
but the PI would come across some information that would

792
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:37.840
change everything in his mind, and that would be when

793
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:41.480
the background check on the housekeeper Carmen came back and

794
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:46.239
it gave some insight into who Carmen was because it

795
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:51.719
showed that Carmen was a former drug addict, because she

796
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:56.039
had charges is why it came back on. You know,

797
00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:59.159
on the record she was actually charged in this, it

798
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.760
was that serious of an addiction issue. So looking further

799
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:06.840
into that, he then discovered that she was actually still

800
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:13.119
actively in drug court and just about I don't know,

801
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:17.440
within the month of Eric's death, she had actually been

802
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:20.800
called in to give a random drug test urine sample,

803
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:24.000
and she failed it. It's called she pissed hot, that's

804
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.840
what they would call it. So that obviously didn't prove anything,

805
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.599
but it sure was interesting considering what all was going on.

806
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.159
Why would Corey be talking to her at such an

807
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:38.280
increased amount in the months leading up to Eric's death. Now,

808
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.800
in all fairness, like we said, it was our housekeeper, okay,

809
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:44.920
And they communicated, but the thought was still there. So

810
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:48.000
the PI decided that rather than hold on to this information,

811
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.559
he was going to turn that over to the police.

812
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.639
And when he did, that really perked their interest in

813
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:57.400
the investigation and it really helped to kind of move

814
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.559
things forward because it had stalled. I want you to

815
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.559
understand this too. Pis are not necessarily law enforcement. You

816
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:06.639
can have law enforcement that also is credentialed as a

817
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.400
private investigator, but you're not necessarily law enforcement if you

818
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.760
are a private investigator. So a lot of pis are

819
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:18.679
certified civilians. For example, I went and got certified as

820
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:21.199
a PI, Okay, went and took all the courses and

821
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:25.440
all of that. But even if you are a licensed PI,

822
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:27.679
that still doesn't mean that you now all of a

823
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:32.679
sudden have access to databases with sensitive information or protect

824
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.599
information like the police do. So you're still really kind

825
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:37.920
of limited in comparison to the police, but it doesn't

826
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:41.199
mean that you're not able to drum up different leads,

827
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:44.960
ideas whatever. So the police were really happy to take

828
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:49.199
the information and kind of apply that to their investigation.

829
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.719
Now in the meantime, as that's going on, Eric's business

830
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.440
partner became someone that the police decided they might need

831
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:01.519
to look at him more closely because because in terms

832
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:05.159
of the financial aspect of their business, it was set

833
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:10.039
up that Cody Wright would benefit significantly in the event

834
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:16.480
of Eric's death. So their business had grown substantially throughout

835
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:20.239
the years, and the guys were seemingly great partners. They

836
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:21.719
had known each other a long time. They had met

837
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.519
in high school. They loved hunting and hanging out together,

838
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.760
I mean, just really good guy friends. So when they

839
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.760
decided to branch out on their own and start their

840
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.840
own company from the start, they wanted to make sure

841
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:37.079
that each other ate equally, meaning they split this company

842
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.840
down the middle fifty fifty, and in order to protect

843
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:44.000
each other in the event of an unimaginable tragedy such

844
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.360
as this, they had also taken out life insurance policies

845
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:51.199
on each other to protect that half of the business

846
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.800
assets should one you know, pass away or become incapacitated,

847
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:00.199
So the business partner was actually the beneficiary of the

848
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:04.480
life insurance policy. What they agreed to was that if

849
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:09.199
that did happen, the business partner would collect the insurance money,

850
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.960
but then the business partner was expected to turn around

851
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:19.480
and pay that money to the living spouse of the partner,

852
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:24.239
and when that transaction was done, that in essence would

853
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:29.719
give buy out the wife of the husband's partnership ownership

854
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:31.719
in the business. If that makes sense. So basically, you

855
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:33.559
give the money of the life insurance to the wife

856
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:35.880
and then you own the business one hundred percent. It

857
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:40.840
makes sense. It's a common business practice. So while Cody,

858
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:44.079
while Eric was still alive, Cody was happy with the

859
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.920
business status. Eric was the one that really wanted to

860
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.079
push and push and push for more growth. And I'm

861
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.400
not saying that it's necessarily an issue, but they did

862
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:56.559
seem to have a difference in goals or future plans.

863
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.559
So police wondered, Okay, well, you're making a shit ton

864
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.360
of money, or at least you're going to become a

865
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:03.800
sole owner of a company that now makes a shit

866
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:08.840
ton of money. Was there anything though, that could possibly

867
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:11.960
have caused a rift between the two that maybe could

868
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:15.519
have launched the business partner into wanting to do something

869
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.199
to Eric. And guess what, investigators found that they're actually what.

870
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.760
So it all stemmed from a hunting incident. So sometime

871
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:30.440
before Eric's death, Cody, the business partner, was contacted by

872
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:34.119
Wildlife and Fisheries and he was brought in for questioning.

873
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:39.079
So basically what happened was Eric had been accused by

874
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:44.639
some unknown party to me at least, with doing an

875
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:50.000
illegal hunt. So, in brief, if you're not a hunter, okay, Eric,

876
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.719
during one of his hunts killed a trophy bull elk,

877
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.599
and that's a mature male elk and it's got some

878
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:02.519
metrical antlers on either side, basically a six point on

879
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:06.119
each side. Massive, amazing kill. Sometimes they'll call that a

880
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.760
royal bull. Okay, Well, he killed one of those, but

881
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:12.280
that wasn't the issue. The issue was his license that

882
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.840
he had at the time. Because Eric's license was only

883
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.639
issued for a cow elk, that means it would have

884
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:22.280
been antlerless. So why was Cody brought in on all

885
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.000
of this in question? Well, the accusation was that after

886
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.639
that kill, Eric asked Cody, hey man, will you put

887
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.639
your valid tag on my bull elk so that it'll

888
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:38.960
be considered a legal kill. Now that's frowned upon, you

889
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:43.119
don't do that. And the truth was that once Cody

890
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:46.000
was brought into this room and he has these investigators

891
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:51.079
looking at him and they're directly asking him is this true.

892
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.480
Cody didn't lie about it, he answered truthfully, and the

893
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:59.800
answer was yes, that is the case. He wasn't necessarily

894
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.599
and teering to get Eric in trouble, but you know,

895
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:06.159
he wasn't gonna lie to the authorities about something that

896
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:10.000
is considered a big, big deal. As a result of that,

897
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:14.280
Eric got arrested and was put in jail. So that

898
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.159
had led to a falling out between the business partners

899
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.000
and as far as penalties were concerned, Eric, who was

900
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.960
an avid hunter, that was his passion, his pastime, his love.

901
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.199
Eric was banned from hunting for a period of time,

902
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.639
not forever, but long enough to hurt and so Eric

903
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:39.400
was obviously upset as anyone would be, and their relationship suffered.

904
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:42.400
But the question here is, are we really out here

905
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:46.559
killing each other over elks? You know, would someone actually

906
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:51.280
stoop that low? It seems far fetched, But you're a

907
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:54.400
true crime fan, you know this. Crazier things have happened. Plus,

908
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.159
you can't ignore the fact that Cody was going to

909
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:03.480
benefit hugely financially from Eric's death. So when police verified

910
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:05.920
that that did happen, they went and they spoke to

911
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:11.039
Cody's wife, her name was Alison, about this situation, and

912
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:14.360
so she did give some insight to this. She said,

913
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:17.760
you know, that did happen, but they had put that

914
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.920
behind them. She said that they were not still at odds.

915
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.760
You know, it was obviously a large jump in the

916
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.400
road there that that caused the problem. But you know,

917
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:30.360
in all reality, Eric knew that he was at fault.

918
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:33.400
Eric knew that he was wrong for what had happened there.

919
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:35.679
He had no question in his mind about that. So

920
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.320
he kind of had to get over. Cody did the

921
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.920
right thing, he told the truth, and they kind of

922
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:47.920
moved on from that. So Alison was also, by the way,

923
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.239
the bookkeeper for C and E Masonry for their business,

924
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:52.840
and so she had a whole lot of insight to

925
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:54.880
the inner workings of the business, and she felt like

926
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:57.960
everything had smoothed over, had kind of gone back to normal.

927
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.360
And when she was asked, is there any one that

928
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:03.039
you know that would have possibly been upset with Eric,

929
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.039
she said not really. I mean, the only thing that

930
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:07.840
could even come to mind, she said, was back in

931
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:11.880
twenty nineteen, we went on family vacations together, our family

932
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:14.840
and the rich and family, And she said, at one

933
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:18.719
point in time, the women, you know, were off just talking,

934
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:22.159
having woman time or whatever, and she said that Corey

935
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:24.400
had opened up to her and said that she was

936
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:27.840
kind of feeling trapped in the marriage because of their

937
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.880
prenup and that things were not going well between them.

938
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:34.199
Remember all the financial shit had gone on at that time,

939
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:36.840
and so she said that she kind of felt trapped

940
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.159
because if they did divorce, the kids were obviously gonna

941
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.480
want to go be with their dad because of the

942
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.920
money and the lifestyle, and she, you know, she would

943
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:47.880
not be a parent the kids would want to be around,

944
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.880
and I was kind of breaking her heart. But you know,

945
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.800
Allison was like, Corey, you know, you're getting your master's degree,

946
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.360
your business is starting to do really well. At that

947
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.760
time is when it started to really grow, and she said,

948
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.559
you know, you have the ability to become financially stable too,

949
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:07.880
it's just going to take some time. So after that, though,

950
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:13.239
just for time perspective, that's whenever the Riches went to

951
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.760
marriage counseling and rectified things. So you know, it didn't

952
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.320
really count because they had really patched things over, and

953
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.000
she Allison even was like, you know, I kind of

954
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:22.639
feel bad bringing it up because it was so long

955
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:26.000
ago and they had patched things up. Well, more research

956
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:29.039
would show that that was true and things must have

957
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:34.519
actually have been repaired because in twenty twenty see any masonry,

958
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:40.119
the company had loaned approximately two hundred thousand dollars to

959
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:44.960
Corey Richin's realty flipping business to try and help out

960
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:50.079
and resolve a financial issue that she was having. Both

961
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:55.519
Eric and Cody were aware of this situation, and Eric

962
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:57.760
was the one that brought it up to Cody to

963
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.440
see if they could do it. So all three of

964
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.000
them weren't at odds if she's you know, they're wanting

965
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.679
to move around money to the realty company. And then

966
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.239
both men are the ones agreeing, Yeah, let's do that,

967
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.280
and let's make her be able to you know, afford

968
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.480
these these these houses and flip, you know, and make

969
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:18.639
more money. So you know, it wasn't a smoking gun. Again,

970
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.480
So still on that financial trail of who was possibly

971
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:24.960
going to benefit from Eric's death, So police decided, well,

972
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:27.840
let's look at the insurance policies a little more closely

973
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:31.159
on Eric. Now, Eric had listed all of the insurance

974
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:35.840
policies to pay out to the trust. But what they

975
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.039
found was that he hadn't listed all of his insurance

976
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.320
policies to pay out to the trust, only some of them,

977
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:44.360
and so this kind of was a head scratcher. Why

978
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:46.000
would he do that if he was trying to protect

979
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.079
his assets. I know it was back then, but if

980
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:49.840
he was trying to protect all of his assets, why

981
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:54.000
would he still leave you know, Corey as the beneficiary

982
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.599
on some of them, but then some to the trust.

983
00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:59.440
So because when he died in March of twenty twenty two,

984
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:04.159
there were at least six different life insurance policies on Eric,

985
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:08.760
totaling approximately four million dollars in potential benefits. But I

986
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.519
need to stop you real quick and go listen. You

987
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:15.079
know they were rich. Understand that these people are very wealthy.

988
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:18.679
The four million dollars wasn't out of the norm necessarily

989
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:21.079
to protect everything that you know, they would have to

990
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.679
pay for. They owned a lot of things, They owned

991
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.239
a lot of properties. Eric was the breadwinner, and so

992
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:28.320
you know, if he died, they want to be able

993
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.119
to pay off all of their properties and make sure

994
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.599
that the kids were taken care of. But four of

995
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:36.440
those policies were not listed in the trust. So they

996
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.599
started digging into those and they found out those were

997
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:40.920
really old ones. Those were taken out in twenty fifteen

998
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.119
and twenty seventeen, I mean between fifteen and twenty seventeen,

999
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:49.320
way before they ever had those financial disagreements. So the

1000
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.119
police were looking at these documents and they started to wonder,

1001
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:55.079
you know what, I wonder if Eric even knew about

1002
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.679
these life insurance policies, because one of them was also

1003
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:04.039
taken out on January twenty ninth, just a couple of

1004
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:09.599
weeks before he died, and Corey was the soul beneficiary.

1005
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:13.599
So they contacted the insurance company to get more insight

1006
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.440
on the policies. And when they started getting into what's

1007
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:20.360
called the metadata, which is like the I guess you

1008
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:24.039
would say, the electronic of footnotes and footprints of everything

1009
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.280
to do that happens on an account, the account manager

1010
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:32.639
noticed an oddity. On January the first, okay, before that

1011
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:36.559
policy had just been taken out right before his death. Okay,

1012
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:42.480
January first, someone had logged into the account and changed

1013
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:47.159
the beneficiary of Eric's two million dollar life insurance policy.

1014
00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:52.440
Now it didn't actually happen, okay, like someone logged in

1015
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:57.320
and the keystrokes basically had been recorded. Someone logged in

1016
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:04.320
and in a six mins window they changed the beneficiary

1017
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:09.079
from Cody Wright to Corey and then back to Cody.

1018
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:11.480
And it was all done just within those few minutes,

1019
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:16.039
and it was done by a computer, and all of

1020
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:18.800
the logins done were from the same IP address, so

1021
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:21.000
they knew that it was not like someone in a

1022
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:23.519
foreign land, you know, off in India or something hacking it.

1023
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:28.079
So the beneficiary was switched multiple times, back and forth,

1024
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:33.679
back and forth. But ultimately the insurance company back then

1025
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.519
called Eric and let him know what had happened. And

1026
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:43.440
Eric confirmed, make sure that Cody Wright is the beneficiary

1027
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:47.440
and he was established and it was guaranteed. Okay, So

1028
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:51.840
why was someone in there playing around with that? Again,

1029
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:55.239
it didn't actually get like submitted formally for change, but

1030
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:00.000
someone playing around with the idea was in that account.

1031
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:03.599
So detectives was it Eric, you know, you don't even

1032
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:06.880
really know that. Detectives didn't really know who was on

1033
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.760
the phone, you know, who was actually spoken to. So

1034
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.119
detectives wanted to look more into that, and what they

1035
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:18.719
decided to do was look at known handwriting signatures of erics.

1036
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.039
So they got eighty six known signatures twenty four known

1037
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.760
sets of initial documents of Erics and they sent that

1038
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.599
off along with this new insurance policy that was taken

1039
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:34.679
out right before his death to a document examiner, and

1040
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.800
I won't belabor the point, but when he was done,

1041
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.039
he concluded that the signature of Eric on that last

1042
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:44.760
insurance policy taken out weeks before he died, was what

1043
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:48.840
he called a simulated forgery. He did not believe that

1044
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:50.960
Eric was the one who actually had signed that, and

1045
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.360
Corey was the one who would have benefited from that

1046
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.800
most recent policy. So now police felt like they had

1047
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:04.840
something very solid to work with, except Corey thought that

1048
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.519
she still had power of attorney if you think about it,

1049
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:13.639
so it had been secretly revoked. She did not know

1050
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:17.440
that at all. So now they're wondering, Okay, did she

1051
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:20.199
do this and think that she could because she still

1052
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.280
had power of attorney because at that point she didn't

1053
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:25.599
know about the trust and all of that. Hmm. So

1054
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:28.679
electronic warrants were the next step for the police. So

1055
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.559
they wanted to download and analyze the data from Corey's

1056
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.960
phone and several of the computers that they had seized

1057
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:41.320
whenever they went, and they did that follow up warrant search. Now,

1058
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:44.719
what they would realize was that Corey actually had two

1059
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.599
cell phones, not one. So I'm going to call it

1060
01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:50.519
the blue phone and the white phone, so you're able

1061
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:54.880
to follow along easily. The white phone was Corey's main

1062
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.639
phone that she used to talk to and do all

1063
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:02.280
of her daily businesses, talk to people about you know whatever,

1064
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:05.639
talk to Eric, do whatever. That was the phone that

1065
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.519
initially when they dumped it, remember it had some missing

1066
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:13.639
data on it, okay, But then as they dug further

1067
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.840
into that phone, they realized she had manually deleted over

1068
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:24.280
eight hundred messages, call logs, web history items, but only

1069
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:29.760
between the months of January and mid March, the exact

1070
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:35.039
month that Eric died. This was, however, where this PI

1071
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:41.599
is about to come in very very handy, because remember

1072
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:43.920
he had identified that Corey had been talking to the

1073
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:47.920
housekeeper at a higher than usual volume based on the

1074
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:53.039
business records, and this is important. The PI went and

1075
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:59.079
got the paper records printed out, not the cell phone data,

1076
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:03.320
which is what the cops had looked at. So I

1077
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.480
hope you're seeing the difference here. The police knew that

1078
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:11.440
stuff had been deleted, but the PI knew whose phone

1079
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:14.519
number had been being called that was deleted because he

1080
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:20.159
had the paper document very very different. So the blue

1081
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.840
phone would be the second phone that they realized that

1082
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:25.880
she had, and it would become extremely interesting because when

1083
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.960
that one was dumped and reviewed, it did not show

1084
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:33.960
any deletions at all. And this was the phone that

1085
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:36.679
she was believed to have been using solely for her

1086
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:41.840
house flipping business. So she had a handyman that worked

1087
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:43.800
on the houses for her name. His name was Robert

1088
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:46.920
Grossmanny went by Josh, and you know, Josh had somewhat

1089
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:48.679
of an if he passed now, I will tell you

1090
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:52.400
this and I appreciate this. He was served honorably. He

1091
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.119
was a war veteran, but when he came back he

1092
01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:58.360
struggled with drug use from time to time. But Corey

1093
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:00.679
took a chance on him and it seemed to be

1094
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.719
He seemed to be a very reliable worker. He's kind

1095
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:07.039
of gruff, rough around the edges, you know, kind of

1096
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.559
a nomad. He had his dog that was really his

1097
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:12.480
pal and his partner. So the agreement that they came

1098
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:14.559
to kind of was perfect. They had known each other,

1099
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:16.360
by the way for like ten years because he did

1100
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:19.599
some work. I think for her aunt, and so she

1101
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:22.599
would trust him that he could sleep in the houses

1102
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:24.960
that he was flipping for her, and he was doing

1103
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.440
the work for he did not have to pay her

1104
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:29.880
rent or anything like that. He would stay protect the house,

1105
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.239
secure at work on it, and then he would agreed

1106
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:34.320
that he could kind of be paid in lump sums

1107
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.719
as she got the lump sums from the payoffs or

1108
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:40.360
the sales of the houses. So it was kind of

1109
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:42.639
an off the books type agreement from what I understand,

1110
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:46.440
and they had their hands full well. The blue iPhone

1111
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:48.519
was the one that she would use to talk to

1112
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:55.239
Josh about the daily business activities. But the messages eventually,

1113
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.679
as you looked through them started to take more of

1114
01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:02.360
a romantic tone. They stay with me, Ah, there it

1115
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:05.599
is okay. So as detectives are reading further through the messages,

1116
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:10.079
they would shift from business to a little bit of

1117
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:13.360
a romantic tone and then all the way into a

1118
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:18.559
full out love affair that she was obviously hiding on

1119
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:20.840
the blue phone under the guise of I guess that

1120
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.599
being a business phone. So there are texts back and

1121
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:28.480
forth in black and white professing their love for one another.

1122
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:32.840
But over time he Josh gets the point where he's like, look,

1123
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:34.760
I love you, I'm in love with you, but I

1124
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:39.280
want all of you, not hiding around, slinking around, texting

1125
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:41.400
during the day. And at some point she's like, but

1126
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:43.840
I can't break up my family, and he says, but

1127
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:47.360
I thought you were getting a divorce. So it's kind

1128
01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:49.960
of following the timeline in the picture that's been painted

1129
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.800
so far that things were not good back, you know,

1130
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:56.519
in the years prior, but now a picture is being

1131
01:06:56.519 --> 01:07:00.000
painted of a wife who is cheating, possibly acquiring life

1132
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.400
life insurance on her now dead husband. But there was

1133
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.679
still one huge issue here, and I hope you still

1134
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.440
can see it. How the hell did Fentanel get into

1135
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:14.079
Eric's system? Okay, so when speaking with more friends and associates,

1136
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.280
there were some things looking back now that started to

1137
01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:21.760
look a bit more red flagish now that Eric was dead.

1138
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:23.840
At the time, it didn't necessarily hit him that way.

1139
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:26.400
It was one of those things where people thought that

1140
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:29.519
maybe Corey was just venting, but now that he's dead,

1141
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:33.000
they're kind of going, hmm, I don't know. So back

1142
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:36.159
in twenty twenty, she had mentioned to the friends about

1143
01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:38.199
the money that she had taken out, and Eric was

1144
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:45.000
upset with her and said that, you know, the amount

1145
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.599
of money I borrowed, I was going to make way

1146
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:51.320
more money off of what I borrowed, and it wouldst

1147
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:53.440
it's going to cost Eric more if we split up

1148
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:57.079
than to just like, let's work through this. But what

1149
01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:58.679
she didn't know at the time, by the way, was

1150
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:00.920
that she didn't know that house or anything if they

1151
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:04.159
were to split up, so that actually wasn't true, but

1152
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:06.280
she kind of had gone further into the fact that

1153
01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:10.199
even if they do divorce. She was also worried he

1154
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:12.159
was going to get a high priced attorney to try

1155
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:14.360
to fight and take the kids from her, and she

1156
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.199
said that, you know, if he keeps digging, he's just

1157
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:18.000
going to keep trying to find more AMMO to use

1158
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:25.840
against me. So it also got Cody, one of Eric's

1159
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:31.479
friends right and his business partner, thinking back about Valentine's

1160
01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:36.520
Day the month before Eric died, because Eric called him

1161
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:40.159
on Valentine's Day and he had fear in his voice,

1162
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:44.000
and Cody was like, you know, I've only ever heard

1163
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:49.279
actual fear in Eric's voice twice before, once when his

1164
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:52.319
mom died and the other time whenever he had been

1165
01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:54.880
in a really bad car accident, and they didn't think

1166
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:57.439
that the driver in the other vehicle was going to survive.

1167
01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:00.399
And Eric was scared, you know that he didn't want

1168
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:04.079
this person to die. But the reason that he recognized

1169
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:06.319
the fear in that voice was because of those two incidents.

1170
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.199
Is but he was scared in this phone call because

1171
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.880
he said Corky had made him a sandwich on Valentine's Day.

1172
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.880
He ate it and then he got very, very sick

1173
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.520
after he ate it, and he's like, I don't want

1174
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:21.199
to believe it, man, but I almost feel like Corey

1175
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:23.560
might have put something in that sandwich. He broke out

1176
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.880
into hives. He got to where he could not breathe.

1177
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.239
He ended up having to take an EPI pen shot

1178
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:33.279
to prevent anaphylaxis, and Eric was very scared. Again, it

1179
01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:37.840
seemed crazy. I mean, this was Valentine's Day. So investigators

1180
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:42.079
started putting a timeline together here that was starting to

1181
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:46.439
align with the pi's concerns about the uptick in communication

1182
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:49.760
with the housekeeper. So they decided that, you know, now's

1183
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:51.840
the time we've got to go talk to Carmen. Well,

1184
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.159
that was going to be really easy because Carmen was

1185
01:09:55.199 --> 01:10:00.720
actually in jail. She had been arrested whenever, drug paraphernalia

1186
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.399
and firearms and all that had been found in her possession.

1187
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:06.720
So when Carmen was brought in in question, off the top,

1188
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:09.640
flat out denial, she did not know anything about Eric's death.

1189
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:15.159
She certainly didn't know anything about any fentnyl and she

1190
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.560
she couldn't help. But here was the problem for her.

1191
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:22.479
Police weren't just speaking to her cold like a cold call. No,

1192
01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:24.840
of course not. The police had done some investigating, which

1193
01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:28.520
included looking at those cell phone bills that the PI

1194
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:32.880
had provided them, because when they confiscated Carmen's cell phone,

1195
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:35.520
she too had deleted a whole bunch of data off

1196
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.359
of her phone that hm it also coincided with the

1197
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:44.199
same timeframe that Corey had deleted her information. So what

1198
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:46.560
they decided to do was that they wanted to compare

1199
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:49.359
the towers that were accessed by the calls of the

1200
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:52.439
cell phone towers between the women. And when they did that,

1201
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:55.840
a picture began to form, like a literal picture began

1202
01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:59.960
to form because investigators were able to map the women's movement.

1203
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:02.399
It's based on their phone calls again that were not

1204
01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:04.359
in their cell phones, but they could get off of

1205
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:07.520
paper records and it started to show a pattern, and

1206
01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:11.920
the pattern was centered around three specific phone numbers, and

1207
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:17.399
those three phone numbers then visiting very similar locations after

1208
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:21.600
so that third phone number was for an unknown person.

1209
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:24.680
The other two obviously were Carmen and Corey. So what

1210
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:27.239
they saw was that Carmen and Corey would talk, there

1211
01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:31.079
would be some downtime, then Carmen and the third number

1212
01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:35.000
would talk some more downtime, and then Carmen and Corey

1213
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.239
would talk again. So assessing the towers, what they found

1214
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:42.319
was Corey was remaining local, right where she normally would be,

1215
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:46.600
but Carmen, her phone would start traveling and her phone

1216
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:50.000
each time went to a Maverick gas station, excuse me,

1217
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:53.640
gas station that was a ways away, and then she

1218
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:55.880
would return back to town where she was always in

1219
01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:00.159
range of Corey. So, knowing that there was definitely something

1220
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.479
to this, police gave Carmen an ultimatum. They said, all right,

1221
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.359
old girl, here's what we got. We're either going to

1222
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.439
be charging you in direct connection with the overdose death

1223
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:12.720
of Eric Richins, or you better start talking and this

1224
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:15.199
is the only chance that you're going to get and

1225
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:19.319
realizing that he could possibly put her away forever. Carmen

1226
01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:23.079
became extremely emotional and for the next ten to fifteen

1227
01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:28.000
hours of an interview, she started talking. Basically, she said

1228
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:31.159
she cleaned the home for the Richens every other Friday.

1229
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:37.439
Now Corey asked her. At some point. She had known

1230
01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:41.520
Corey very well for multiple years. Corey asked her if

1231
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:44.880
she could do her a favor. She said that she

1232
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:47.680
had an investor that she was working with and that

1233
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:50.479
investor was in a bind. The investor needed some pain

1234
01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:55.039
pills and was out. Corey only was asking Carmen because

1235
01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:59.840
she knew that Carmen had those former drug connections. The

1236
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.000
first time that Corey approached Carmen was in February of

1237
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:11.479
twenty twenty two. Now, for perspective, Eric died in March,

1238
01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:16.319
so what she wanted again was these painkiller opiates. So

1239
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:19.920
Carmen fronted her own money for this drug sale. She

1240
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:23.800
had six hundred dollars. She went and she bought an

1241
01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:28.640
envelope full of pills from a dealer named Susan. She

1242
01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:30.880
then texted Corey, who showed up the next morning at

1243
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:34.359
Carmen's house. They switched the money for the pills and

1244
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:37.760
went about their mary Way Well. A few days later,

1245
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:41.439
Corey approached her again but said, look, I need something

1246
01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:44.279
a little bit stronger. What you gave my client didn't work.

1247
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:47.680
So Carmen reached out to her friend Nicole, but Nicole

1248
01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:52.359
didn't have anything and didn't give her anything. Police were

1249
01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:55.600
actually able to verify this was true because she had

1250
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.960
contacted her through Facebook messenger and that was on February

1251
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:02.000
the fifth of twenty two me to but Nicole did

1252
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:05.640
point her to another dealer named Robbie. He said that

1253
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:09.479
he would check around and then he would get back

1254
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:12.319
with her. Well, police now figured out who that third

1255
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:16.760
phone number was in this trio of communication. It was

1256
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:21.359
this drug dealer, Robbie. So Robbie came back to her

1257
01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:23.800
and said, yep, I can get you the pills. And

1258
01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:27.640
so Carmen called Corey, who approved the transaction, and Robbie

1259
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.279
came in from up North, met her at a Maverick

1260
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:33.800
gas station. Carman now gave him one thousand dollars for

1261
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:36.520
some pills. So the police's like, well, where did you

1262
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:39.239
get the thousand dollars? And Carmen said, oh, well, I

1263
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:42.319
didn't have any more money. I couldn't front it. So

1264
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:44.960
Corey left the cash for me at a small house

1265
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:48.359
that she was flipping, and she put the money in

1266
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.279
a closet and a box inside of some coffee cups,

1267
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:53.159
and she said she left the back door open for me.

1268
01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:55.720
So I went and picked it up. Then I drove

1269
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:59.720
and I met Robbie. He gave me the pills and

1270
01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:04.439
a little ziplock. They asked her what color were those pills,

1271
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:09.840
and she said light green. She then texted Corey on

1272
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:11.600
the way home and said, look, I can't have these

1273
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:13.880
things on me now. I'm actively in drug court. And

1274
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:15.520
Corey said, well, just co put them back in the

1275
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.359
house where the money was, but put it in an

1276
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:22.479
outside shed. This housekeeper ain't no joke. She's like, nah,

1277
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:23.960
I fa, I'm not putting this much money worth a

1278
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.399
dope out and an unattended shed. Somebody's going to steal it.

1279
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:28.359
So instead she went back to the house. She dug

1280
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:30.159
a hole in the ground in a fire where the

1281
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.680
fire pit was, and she buried the dope there. So

1282
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:36.000
the police are like, BINGO, we knew it. But Carmen

1283
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:40.960
wasn't done. Carmen said she bought pills for Corey a

1284
01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:45.319
total of four times. The second by was definitely at

1285
01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:49.039
the end of February, and by the third by, Corey

1286
01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:51.880
came back to her and said, I need something stronger.

1287
01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:55.000
I need something kind of like the Michael Jackson stuff

1288
01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:57.520
and the drug. Carmen's like, I don't know what the

1289
01:15:57.520 --> 01:15:59.359
hell that is, so she had to google it, and

1290
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:01.920
Robbie's like, I can't get you, you know, fucking propofall.

1291
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:07.119
But I can probably get you some pills that are

1292
01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:12.600
stronger fentanyl. She goes. They repeat the same process this

1293
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:16.239
time when she picks up the pills, they're blue. Now,

1294
01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:20.720
something that's interesting about this was that Carmen, at that

1295
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:24.199
exact same timeframe was late to some drug court meetings,

1296
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:26.039
and so she had been sanctioned by the court that

1297
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:28.920
she had to do some community service hours. Well, wouldn't

1298
01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:33.680
you know that investigators would find that Carmen must have

1299
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:37.439
done those community service hours because Corey Richins wrote a

1300
01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:41.119
letter to the court saying that Carmen had done the

1301
01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:44.159
community service for her, and she was vouching that she

1302
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:47.000
had done the hours. Was it possible that these community

1303
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:49.760
service hours were going to buy pain pills from a

1304
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:52.880
drug dealer? Who knows? But she wrote the letter for her,

1305
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:54.880
but the joke was on both of them because the

1306
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:57.560
courts figured out it wasn't real, it wasn't true, and

1307
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:01.600
so Carmen got in trouble and further sanctioned for that. Now,

1308
01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:07.199
two days after that last by that I just mentioned,

1309
01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:12.520
two days later, she finds out that Eric, her former,

1310
01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:15.640
you know, her employer of the house she cleans, died.

1311
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:22.319
Carmen's not an idiot. So Carmen called Corey and said,

1312
01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:26.920
please tell me right now that those pills I bought

1313
01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:30.479
you were not for Eric, and Corey told her no,

1314
01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:33.880
they were for the investor. Eric died of a brain

1315
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:38.439
aneurysm and this had nothing to do with it. But

1316
01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:40.439
if you place all of this on a timeline, guys,

1317
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.399
here's what happened. Corey and Eric's marriage is falling apart.

1318
01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:46.199
She voiced to multiple people that she would be destitute

1319
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:49.399
if they divorced. She started the affair with Josh. The

1320
01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:52.079
two of them are talking about a life together. She

1321
01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:54.720
tells him she's going to get a divorce. Obviously obviously

1322
01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:56.840
she's not because she doesn't want to give up all

1323
01:17:56.880 --> 01:18:00.000
the money and her lifestyle. Eric finds out not necessarily

1324
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.439
about the affair, but about the financial things that she did,

1325
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:05.960
so he just put everything safely into the trust. The

1326
01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:09.760
prenup that they signed. There was a caveat here. Corey

1327
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:13.319
knew about that prenup, but there's a clause in there

1328
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:16.079
that was very important because there's a clause that said,

1329
01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:20.159
if Eric should die, everything would be left to Corey

1330
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:25.520
and the kids. Hmm. His trust, however, which Corey did

1331
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:30.079
not know about, superseded that claim. So as far as

1332
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:33.760
Corey knew, if Eric was dead, she got everything well.

1333
01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:36.600
On December the seventh, a few months before Eric died,

1334
01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:39.520
police found that she had actually Corey had booked a

1335
01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:42.960
vacation that she was supposed to go on a destination vacation.

1336
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:46.760
But what was the name of the person on her itinerary?

1337
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:48.880
Would it shock you if I told you that It

1338
01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:51.600
was just initials. It said Corey Richins, and then she

1339
01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:55.800
would be going away with JG. Well, that's strange because

1340
01:18:56.159 --> 01:19:00.520
her boyfriend's name was Josh Grossman. How the hell did

1341
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:01.880
you think that you were going to be going on

1342
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:06.319
a vacation that was supposed to happen in April If

1343
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:11.600
you are married to your husband still December, that's whenever

1344
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:15.279
she logged in in January and played around with the beneficiary,

1345
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:17.600
going to change it into her name, but she chose

1346
01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:20.520
not to ultimately or they switched it back to what

1347
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:23.000
it was supposed to be, and instead she took out

1348
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:25.880
that new policy where she forged his signature and he

1349
01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:30.119
knew nothing about it. In January, she also sent a

1350
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:33.479
text message amongst thousands of others, and she had asked

1351
01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:36.960
Josh Grossman, who had a known drug history, if he

1352
01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:39.880
had ever done harder drugs before. And he's like, yeah,

1353
01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:42.039
we've already discussed this. What are you talking about? And

1354
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:44.640
she says, oh, yeah, I don't remember. And he says, well,

1355
01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:46.640
we talked about it at Chili's. And he goes through

1356
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:50.279
and through, and she says, oh, we'll just remind me.

1357
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:52.039
I'm not going to bore you or belabor you with

1358
01:19:52.119 --> 01:19:54.760
all his answers. But to me and to the investigators,

1359
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:56.760
it looks to me like she was fishing at that

1360
01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:59.760
point in January. She was trying to find something that

1361
01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:03.119
she he could poison her husband with. Josh was clueless.

1362
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:05.119
He did not know about that. I don't think that

1363
01:20:05.159 --> 01:20:07.279
he ever knew about that because he was led to

1364
01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:10.199
believe they were divorcing, so she would have to try

1365
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:13.800
something else. That's when she started buying the dope from Carmen.

1366
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:16.920
And guess what. She bought the dope from Carmen, and

1367
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:21.600
just days later, Eric got violently ill after eating a

1368
01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:28.119
sandwich on Valentine's Day. All Right, Corey says, that's crazy

1369
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.520
when they accuse her of that, obviously, and she's like,

1370
01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:33.800
I was with him the whole time. It wasn't that bad.

1371
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:36.079
Blah blah blah blah blah. But guess what, that's proven

1372
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:38.239
to be a flat out lie because she was actually

1373
01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:42.279
on a date with Josh about an hour away after

1374
01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:46.039
she made the sandwich and left the house. One week

1375
01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:49.960
before Eric actually died, she texted Josh Grossman, I have

1376
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:53.199
a crazy dream. You quit your job, I come into

1377
01:20:53.279 --> 01:21:00.000
millions and we move in together. Well, when the first

1378
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:03.920
first attempt at killing him didn't work, that's whenever Corey

1379
01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:07.720
made another buy from Carmen. And remember she wanted something

1380
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:11.840
stronger and she got the fentanyl that time. This was

1381
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:15.279
February twenty six, and I believe that's why the pills

1382
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:17.680
were different colors when she got him the first time

1383
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:20.239
versus the second time, because the first time I think

1384
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:23.319
was probably something different, but that second time, those pills

1385
01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:27.399
had the fent She made him that moscow mule drink

1386
01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:30.079
right before he went to bed, which I think she

1387
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:32.800
laced with that fentanyl. And if you don't know about fentyl,

1388
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:38.119
it's odorless, it's tasteless, and especially if you've never taken

1389
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:41.359
it before. But studies showed that people who are fentanyl

1390
01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:43.960
abusers that have built a tolerance say that it can

1391
01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:47.239
be bitter or it can be sweet, depending I guess

1392
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:49.840
on your taste buds. Well, guess what a moscow mule

1393
01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:53.039
tastes like. It's got a bunch of different flavors in it,

1394
01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:57.039
but it's tangy citrus, and it creates a sweet and

1395
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:00.720
sour profile in your mouth. It's the perfect drink if

1396
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:02.840
you were going to try to lease it was something

1397
01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:06.560
Eric drank that moscow mule and he was dead within

1398
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:11.560
minutes of drinking that drink. But when Corey dialed nine

1399
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:13.159
one one, and I know you're like, damn, this is

1400
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:16.800
a long episode. Hang in there, baby, ain't done. When

1401
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.960
Corey diled nine one one the morning she found Eric,

1402
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:23.479
even more information would come to light in a forensic

1403
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:26.800
audit of her cell phone because she said over and

1404
01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:28.960
over again she called nine one one immediately after she

1405
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:32.319
found Eric. But when they looked into the deep dark

1406
01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:36.039
data of her cell phone, she didn't realize that it

1407
01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:39.319
every keystroke, every motion you make on that phone is

1408
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:43.680
actually recorded. And so the night that Eric died, at

1409
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.279
seven twenty two pm before he died, Corey texted Josh

1410
01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:50.359
a picture or there was a text between the two

1411
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:53.760
of them of two people romantically kissing and they say,

1412
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:56.359
I love you. She replies back at eight thirty six

1413
01:22:56.479 --> 01:23:01.479
pm love you. Hours later, at three twenty one am,

1414
01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:04.439
Corey dialed nine one one and told investigators she found him.

1415
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:06.640
Oh my god, I just found him. I called blah

1416
01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:09.560
blah blah blah blah. But when they look at the

1417
01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:12.439
data of the phone, it shows that at three oh

1418
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:16.720
six am, Corey unlocked her phone and she walked two

1419
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:21.239
hundred and forty three feet. It locks back on its own.

1420
01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:26.680
At three ten, she unlocks it again. It locks on

1421
01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:31.000
its own again. At three point fifteen, she unlocks it again,

1422
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:36.399
and then she unlocks it again at three nineteen am.

1423
01:23:36.680 --> 01:23:40.399
At three point twenty one, she unlocks it again and

1424
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:44.520
then dials nine one one, So she didn't just wake

1425
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:45.960
up and happened to go get in the bed with

1426
01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.760
her husband. No, there was a fifteen minute delay between

1427
01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:54.000
you allegedly finding him and then dialing nine to one one,

1428
01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:57.600
so when the paramedics responded he was well beyond help.

1429
01:23:57.800 --> 01:24:01.880
It was three fifty eight am when he was pronounced dead.

1430
01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:05.199
And by the way, in the records, it shows that

1431
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:07.760
he had been dead a while. This was not a

1432
01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:15.199
fresh death, so post emergency, right right after these all

1433
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:17.800
of this is going down. This is gonna blow your mind.

1434
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:24.680
Eric is being worked on and pronounced dead. Digital records

1435
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:29.680
show that Corey then opened up and got a giff

1436
01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:32.479
on her phone, and this is after the first responders

1437
01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:36.560
have arrived on scene, and she she gets a couple

1438
01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:39.560
of them and one of them is a woman wiping

1439
01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:43.479
tears away with money and the other one is captioned,

1440
01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.640
I'm really rich. I don't think I would have been

1441
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:51.640
able to even get up off the floor. Mind you

1442
01:24:52.119 --> 01:24:54.359
look up my gifts of how rich I am about

1443
01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:58.640
to be. That's when Corey then you know, Eric dies.

1444
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:00.920
Then Corey tries to break into that and she says

1445
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.000
she's trying to get the will. Well, later on it

1446
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:04.720
would be found out that there was actually one hundred

1447
01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:09.279
and twenty five thousand dollars cash roughly in that in

1448
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:12.520
that safe. Okay, that's when the fight broke out and

1449
01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:16.000
she was informed of the trust. Then days later is

1450
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:18.399
whenever she tried to make a fraudulent claim on that

1451
01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:21.479
life insurance policy she took out on Eric just weeks

1452
01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:25.319
before his death. Now realizing at that point in time

1453
01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:27.880
that the PI and the police were looking at her,

1454
01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:32.840
that's whenever Corey had wiped the incriminating evidence from her

1455
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:37.319
white cell phone and the police then confiscated that phone

1456
01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:44.680
thereafter well, doing a forensic audit at that same time,

1457
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:49.720
they found that when Eric died, Corey's successful flipping business

1458
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:53.760
was affront. It was all a facade. She was actually

1459
01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:57.960
in debt of over four point five million dollars to

1460
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:02.920
over twenty different vendors, and starting right before Eric's death

1461
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:07.359
overdrafts of her account, the check started bouncing and everything

1462
01:26:07.399 --> 01:26:11.119
like that. She racked up fifty six hundred dollars in

1463
01:26:11.279 --> 01:26:15.840
overdraft fees alone in one account. So from twenty nineteen

1464
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:19.319
to twenty twenty two, as her business was growing rapidly,

1465
01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:23.439
she was piss poor at business. She was not able

1466
01:26:23.479 --> 01:26:26.119
to scale and manage her money. And that's whenever she

1467
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:31.880
started to cause financial problems in their marriage. Eric did

1468
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:36.000
not want her to buy that mansion. He was very adamant.

1469
01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:37.640
He did not want her to buy that last mansion,

1470
01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:39.479
the one that you know Brees said. They had to

1471
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:43.479
close one the morning of his death, so their bank

1472
01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:46.359
and credit cards were exhausted. She had started taking out

1473
01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:50.119
payday loans to pay the loans that were past due.

1474
01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:53.479
She overdrafted over two hundred transactions in the five months

1475
01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:58.279
before Eric's death. That totaled over three hundred thousand dollars.

1476
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:01.159
So she owed so much on that mansion she was

1477
01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:03.680
trying to close on she couldn't even afford to keep

1478
01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:07.520
it and fix all of it. They're finding all this

1479
01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.800
out after the fact. But if she would have been

1480
01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:13.239
the beneficiary of everything she thought, she would have been

1481
01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:16.000
in the green. She would have had the money. And

1482
01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:19.720
then to put the fucking nail in the coffin. Guys,

1483
01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:22.680
this right here is just this can't be real, but

1484
01:27:22.800 --> 01:27:27.720
it is. After police confiscated her phone and her blue phone,

1485
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:32.520
she went and got a replacement phone, a silver one.

1486
01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:35.920
Police after they figure out everything that's going on, they

1487
01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:40.800
go and they now seize the new phone. And if

1488
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:44.960
this doesn't blow your mind, nothing will. The Google searches

1489
01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:48.600
that were done on her new phone now that she

1490
01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:54.039
realized that the police were investigating her are as follows,

1491
01:27:54.560 --> 01:28:01.319
in no particular order. Can the FBI find deleted message?

1492
01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:06.920
What is a lethal dose of fentanyl? If someone is poisoned?

1493
01:28:07.439 --> 01:28:11.039
What does it go down on the death certificate? As

1494
01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:18.880
luxury prisons for the rich in America? There was also

1495
01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:22.279
can cops force you to do a light detector test?

1496
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:28.079
And how to permanently delete information from an iPhone remotely?

1497
01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:32.880
I'm thinking she was panicking, do you? And she knew

1498
01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:35.439
that her ass was about to go to prison. And

1499
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:39.920
then on top of that, when Josh, her boyfriend, found

1500
01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:49.600
out that Eric died, he became completely overwhelmed with grief

1501
01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:54.119
and guilt and he had he just couldn't handle it.

1502
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.319
He couldn't take it. He could not believe it that

1503
01:28:56.399 --> 01:29:01.159
this had taken place. Now, mind you, he's feeling guilty.

1504
01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:08.680
Days after Eric's death, she emailed Josh a confirmation about

1505
01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:11.760
their upcoming vacation that would they would be taking together

1506
01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:17.960
in April she had also remember published that children's book

1507
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:20.720
on how to deal with the loss of a parent,

1508
01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:25.600
and all of that, and every bit of it was

1509
01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:34.600
just affront. Josh, however, decided to go straight to Katie.

1510
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:38.720
Josh hung his head, drug his feet, and he went

1511
01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:43.960
to Katie, Eric's sister, and he told her everything because

1512
01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:46.319
he could not live with the fact that Eric may

1513
01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:51.199
have died because of him in any way, shape or form.

1514
01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:52.880
I want to be clear that he had nothing to

1515
01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:55.760
do with Eric's death as far as he wasn't participating

1516
01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:58.760
or a part of that, but he felt the guilt.

1517
01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:03.119
So on May eighth, twenty twenty three, with all of

1518
01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:07.840
this in mind, Corey Richins was arrested and charged with

1519
01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:11.800
the murder of her husband, Eric Richins, and after a

1520
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:16.119
five week trial, Corey was found guilty after three hours

1521
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:22.319
of deliberation of aggravated murder, and her sentencing is now

1522
01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:28.399
scheduled for May of twenty twenty six. So imagine being

1523
01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:33.880
so delusional that you write a book about grief after

1524
01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:40.840
knowing you murdered your husband. The level of grandiosity that

1525
01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:47.800
Corey considered herself to be here is unmatched. It's like

1526
01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:51.079
she really genuinely thought that everyone was just going to

1527
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:54.760
accept Eric's random drug overdose death as just it is

1528
01:30:54.840 --> 01:30:58.520
what it is. But that's because to her it was

1529
01:30:59.479 --> 01:31:03.439
he didn't matter he was in the way. She just

1530
01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:08.319
wanted his money. She didn't think for a second that

1531
01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:11.119
his sisters were going to come out swinging for their

1532
01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:15.640
beloved brother's honor. Corey gave up on her marriage and

1533
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:22.359
her selfishness, stole a devoted daddy from her son's and

1534
01:31:22.399 --> 01:31:27.720
she couldn't give a shit less. She robbed Eric of

1535
01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:30.039
his life and then thought in her head that she

1536
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:32.359
was just going to run off magically into the sunset

1537
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:35.640
with her boyfriend and live and live happily ever after.

1538
01:31:37.359 --> 01:31:41.119
But the thing about fairytales, babe, is that they aren't real.

1539
01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:44.960
While you were out writing a book on a child's level,

1540
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:49.319
the adults of the world were writing reports on a

1541
01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:56.000
criminal level. While you were focused on making lines rhyme,

1542
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:01.680
the police were making everything make sense through reason. You

1543
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:06.520
cannot compete where you do not compare, Honey, don't ever

1544
01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:11.560
forget that. And now she's going to prison. We just

1545
01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:15.000
don't know how long yet that will be, but you

1546
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.239
can bet it will be long enough for her to

1547
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:20.159
I don't know, possibly brush up on her writing skills,

1548
01:32:20.359 --> 01:32:24.199
and maybe, y'all, maybe she could eventually write a memoir

1549
01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:27.560
about her life. But then again, based on what we know,

1550
01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:32.920
it would probably suck. So maybe aim lower this time,

1551
01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:38.520
like way lower, you know, think shapes, lines, possibly crayons,

1552
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:41.760
because a memoir would suggest that you have words about

1553
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:45.720
your life worth reading, but a coloring book in this instance,

1554
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:47.279
would be much more worth my time,