March 3, 2026

Betrayed by Blood

Betrayed by Blood
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Season 9

KJ dives deep into the case of Aaron Friar, a father whose life was cut short in a plot orchestrated by the person he trusted most-his teenage daughter, Sierra Friar.

Timestamps
01:46 A Glimpse into Medford, Oregon
04:57 The Discovery
11:22 Police Arrive at the Scene
16:11 Surveillance Footage Breakthrough
35:22 Russell's Confession
40:05 Ellie Takes the Stand
52:55 The Walmart Trip
1:08:48 The Aftermath of the Crime

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, kJ

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You're back with an other episode of Unspeakable, and I

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hope that you are listening right now because I owe

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so many people a thank you and a hug, because

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I want y'all to know my mama went and got

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a pet scan done. And would you believe it if

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I told you that her cancer is gone? And I

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am so excited. We did not expect good results, and

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she has gone through a lot. We've been in the

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ICU a lot and things were not looking well and

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then all of a sudden, God is good all the time.

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But I don't think that would be the case.

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Without all of your prayers and all of your kind

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words and all of that making it happen. So please

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right now, if you don't have anything good that happens today,

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know that you are the difference in my life and

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in my mama's life, and for that I am extremely thankful.

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Now I am going to jump into this episode and

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I want you to come with me to Medford Organ

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And this is going to be back a couple of

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years in twenty seventeen, and it was about five thirty

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in the morning when i'll eleven year old Sierra Fryar

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awoke to some strange sounds coming from the living room. Now,

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when she heard these sounds, she didn't quite know what

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it was. So she sat up and she listened. It

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was almost like instinctual that she did not get out

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of her bed, but she got quiet and she listened,

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and what she heard was her dad yell out the

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F word and then this pinging or this dinging sound

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that she said, repeated about eight to ten times. And

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so she sat there because she knew that this was

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not a sound that she normally heard. She could not

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identify what it was and it really scared her. So

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as she tried to understand what the sound was of

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the pinging. Then all of a sudden, she heard glass shattering,

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and the sounds terrified this young girl so much so

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that she decided to hunk her down in her bedroom

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until it just all stopped, until there was silence, And

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all of that took place about thirty minutes later. But

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during that gap, she also heard sounds of things moving

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around and something was going on in that living room,

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but again she was too afraid to go check it out.

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But thirty minutes later she decided to venture out into

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the house and to try to see what those sounds were. Now,

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all of the lights were off in the house at

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this point, and she tiptoed down the hall into the

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living room, which was also still somewhat dark, and although

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not fully lit, she could still see that there was

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something on the wall behind the couch. She could also

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tell that there was something spilled on the couch itself,

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all the way to the right hand side, on the cushion.

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So she walked up and she reached down and she

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pressed her little hand into that cushion when she felt

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her hand sink into something sticky and thick. It was

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a liquid, So she pulled her hand back quickly and

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was like what is this? She goes over and she

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finds the light switch and she flips it on, only

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to realize that her hand was covered in blood. So

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her eyes immediately just opened wide, looked at her hand,

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and then in shock, she looked up, and that's whenever

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she realized that behind the couch, that stuff on the wall,

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it was blood spatter, some of it even extending up

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onto the ceiling above her, and it was all over

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sprayed on the walls. Obviously, this was a huge issue,

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and so she called out to her family, but nobody

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was answering her. The only other person that was there

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was her little sister, younger than her, and so other

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than this, nobody's responding to her. In the house was quiet,

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So usually she would have expected her older sister Ellen

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and her dad Aarin, to be home, but they were

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both gone, and if she weren't seeing this all with

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her own eyes, she would not have believed that this

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was really happening. This is not real life, this cannot

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be real life. But in a moment of clarity, Sierra

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realized that she and her little sister they had to

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get out of that house and they had to go

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find help because something is very very wrong. So the

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two of them set off and they eventually made it

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to their mother's house and got inside and then told

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her exactly everything that I just told you.

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To this point.

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They were scared, they were worried, sick about their sister

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and their daddy. And by six forty two am, just roughly,

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you know, an hour later, their mother was on the

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phone and had dialed nine one one in a panic, begging.

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The police to please go over.

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To her husband's house or ex husband's house and check

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on these people. See what is going on now. Based

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on what her younger daughter had told her, something had

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happened to one of the people that were missing, the

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husband or ex husband and the daughter and they were missing.

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So she's like, please rush over there, please, if anything,

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find my child.

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You know, I'm terrified.

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So police were dispatched and they immediately arrived at Aaron's

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home within minutes to do what we call a welfare check,

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to lay eyes.

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On these two people.

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So Aaron and the girl's mother, her name was Maggie,

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they had made the decision a year prior so, in

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twenty sixteen, that they were going to divorce, and in

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the settlement of it all, joint custody was awarded for

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both of the parents, and both mom and Dad I

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want you to know they loved these girls fiercely and

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they worked together to raise them, although not now as

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one family unit. Dad Aaron had moved into this small

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two bedroom house, but he made every effort to give

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his three girls space of their own, although it was

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really a limited square footage to do so. In now,

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in twenty seventeen, Sierra had decided that she wanted to

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live with her daddy full time, and she was really

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a daddy's girl.

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He did, you know.

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He filled that hole in her heart and she wanted

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to be with him full time, which he happily accepted.

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He thought that was great and he was like, yes,

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baby girl, you can move in and I'd love to

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have you all the time. So when the other two

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girls would come and they would stay at the house

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during his time with them, Elle Ellen, who went by

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Ellie would sleep in her dad's bed and because of that,

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he would sleep on the couch whenever they were there.

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The other two girls, the younger girls, they would take

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the other bedroom, which was Sierra's full time bedroom, and

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they would stay together.

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That was the kind of daddy.

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He was His girls came first and whenever they came over,

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they all got their own space and he would sleep

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on the couch. And he was a pretty chill dude.

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He had just turned fifty and he liked to do

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things like playpool. He was known to go down to

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what was called the local Peer twenty one and that's

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where he had made friends there. He even won awards

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in that pool league, and people liked him. He wasn't

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known to have a bunch of enemies. He loved to

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watch NASCAR, and as far as work was concerned, from

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what I understand, I think that he was a handyman

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of sorts.

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So anyone that needed help, he was there.

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He was that guy and he would go assist them.

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He did have this tough look, okay he did. You

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put eyes on him, and he had a tough look

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about him, a bald head, a masculine style, but he

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had a heart of gold. According to everyone that knew him,

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he was just a nice guy. So when police arrived

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to this house, they didn't really know what to expect.

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They approached the home with caution, but just walking up

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the sidewalk to the door, there was a trail of

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blood leading to it, which police immediately noticed. And bodycams

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were rolling as all of this took place, and they

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announced their presence at the front door. An officer kind

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of peeking in the front door and his hand instinctually

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went down to cover his firearm on his hip, just

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ready for a quick draw if necessary, because they didn't

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know who was in the house, if anyone was in

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the house, really, but when they called out complete silence,

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nobody answered, and so the officers slowly and methodically made

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their way inside of the house and they cleared the

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home able to determine that no one was remaining inside

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of the house, and the investigation from that point it began.

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They jumped right in. Detectives showed up, and they walked

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through the home and they noted everything or anything that

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really caught their attention. Now, I'm gonna tell you this,

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and I'm not saying this as a negative at all.

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We all live in our homes, Okay, I myself included.

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If you went in right now, you'd see dishes, and

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you'd see kids, stuff everywhere.

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Whatever.

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Well, this home was no different, and it wasn't the

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tidiest of homes. So when you're looking for evidence. It

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might be a little more difficult to me though, looks

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like a man that lived in a home, and it

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looked like a man lived there without the persistent influence

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of a woman. That is how I'll describe the house.

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There was a Nascar memorabilia adorned all over the walls,

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like beer beer signs on the walls. And organization wasn't

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the best. Now, the curtains and the furniture. He had

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all of that, but it didn't match. And I say this,

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I hope you can tell listening. I have a smile

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on my face. But it was just a very guy house,

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all right. But even in the chaos, things were still

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easily noticeably problematic for starters. The kids were absolutely right

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when they told their mother that the wall was covered

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in blood. It was very obvious that there was cast

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off blood spray all on the wall behind the couch,

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and it did extend up over their heads up to

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the ceiling now above them, where the blood spatter continued.

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There was a broken light fixture up there well. On

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the ground. Right below was broken glass on the carpet,

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which obviously must have originated from the light fixture up

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above on the ceiling. Now the couch, which was like

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a grayish material, was soaked in blood on the right side,

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and that blood had even poured down to the floor

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below right in front of that seat. And so what

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I'm trying to tell you is that this was an

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extensive amount of blood that was found, so much so

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that it probably was incompatible with life, although at that

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moment we could not tell you one way or the other.

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That would have to be something that would be estimated.

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So from the couch, there was also that blood trail

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that I mentioned, and it went from the couch all

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the way through the home, out the back door, through

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this small alleyway behind where there was a back gate,

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and then once it went through that gate, it stopped.

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No more blood anywhere else. Now where the blood stopped,

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the police were like, okay, this was probably where a

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car had been parked, which was pretty much validated by

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the fact down in the dirt there were fresh tire

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tracks in that dirt, and you could see it leave

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and go away, traveling away from the home and then

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take off to the road. So what started out as

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a welfare check would quickly shift to something that was

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obviously war sinister, and the situation would be upgraded. At

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this point, it was believed to be a possible kidnapping

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based on what they knew about the family dynamic. At

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this point, they believed that Aaron was probably not the

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main target here and that Ellie was likely whoever had

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done this had come to get So let me tell

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you about Ellie and why they thought that. First of all,

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she was only fifteen years old. She was a little girl,

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and she was a cute, tiny little thing. She had

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brown hair, freckles on her little face. She was a

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sophomore in high school, very bright, she was taking ap classes,

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and she was a devoted member of her high school

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marching band. Extremely musically talented. She could play multiple instruments,

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which I find incredible. Anyone who can do that shout

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out to you. My brain can't do it. But she

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played everything from the saxophone to the piano. So she

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was very good at this. Now, these are the people

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that are missing. What in the world could have spawned this?

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Was it on purpose?

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Was it not?

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And so they're kind of leaning towards this looks like

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it might be a kidnapping, considering they're both gone now.

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Both Dad and Ellie had cell phones. This is excellent.

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We all know this as true crime listeners. Cell phones

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are a great way to locate somebody, but there was

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an issue here. Both of their cell phones were located

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in the house, so tracking them down via location or

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pinging those phones it wasn't going to work because they

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were at the house. So in a quick check of

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nine to one one call history to that house, there

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was nothing notable. There were no disturbances or anything.

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At that house.

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However, police did learn that the family had been spooped

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about a week prior to this day events. Whenever they

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had a situation where they thought that someone had tried

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to break into their house, now they never called police,

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so there was no police report of this and the

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event never nothing really ever came of it, and that

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was that. So when that was brought to their attention,

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they noted it, but again nothing ever had come from that.

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Nothing was stolen, and nobody was hurt. It was like

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it was an attempt to break in. So that possible

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lead quickly went nowhere, and so the search was now

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really focused on trying to locate this missing daddy and

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his daughter and time was passing. Guys, every minute meant

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that someone was injured from that home and likely not

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receiving medical care. I think we could all agree that,

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you know, you don't go in there and do something

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to somebody and then go bring them to the hospital.

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Not the typical.

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So one thing that was obviously missing from the home

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was Aaron's silver Mercury Marquis. So this was a four

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door style sedan vehicle that should have been parked out

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behind that gate. They also knew that Aaron had been

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home all night and that he had not loaned his

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vehicle to anybody, so the vehicle should have been there.

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So whoever had that car was obviously believed to be

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involved in the Friar's disappearances. So as such, the detective

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started canvassing the area. Their goal here was to look

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for any camera footage or witnesses that may have been

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up early that morning in those hours and maybe saw something,

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and this would prove a fruitful thing for them to do.

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There was a neighbor that did have cameras and they

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were able to pull footage, and that footage panned right

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down on that back little dirt road that was behind

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that gate of the alleyway of the Friar home. And

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so as they watched the footage. Sure enough, Aaron's car

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was seen exiting the driveway, and this was around five

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point thirty that morning, but it was too dark to

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see who was inside or to see, you know, id

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the driver as the car drove away. It did how I've, however,

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now established that the vehicle had left, and it gave

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a starting point on a timeline of when things likely

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took place. So the younger sisters who had been in

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the house, they continued to speak to police during their

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interview time when they're trying to figure out what had happened,

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and Sierra mentioned to them that she had also seen

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someone outside of her window after the dinging sounds took place,

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but there was a little gap between it, and she

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was so scared in the moment, But now as she's

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thinking about it, she was pretty sure that she could

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id one of the two people she saw outside of

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her window. She said both of them were male, and

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one of them she was pretty sure was her sister's boyfriend.

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His name was Gavin, and she knew him, and she said,

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I'm telling you, I think it was Gavin that I

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saw outside of the house, But the other guy she

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did not recognize.

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At all.

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So police obviously were interested in this, and they were

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able to identify the boyfriend's full name as Gavin McFarland.

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And once they confirmed that, they started searching for him.

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They wanted to lay eyes on him, and they did

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so by pinging his cell phone for his possible location.

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Sure enough, they hit pey dirt. His phone was showing

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just a few miles into town, and so seventy or

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so officers were deployed to go out and assist in

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finding this boy. Boots on the ground efforts, get out there,

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start riding these roads.

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We've got to find this kit now.

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During the search of the area, an officer that was

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on patrol looking for Gavin would locate Errand's missing vehicle. Now,

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no one was in it. It was pulled over and

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parked off on the side of the road, but sure enough,

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that was the car that they were looking for. So

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the officer pulls in, gets out, and goes to look

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at the vehicle. But the exterior of the vehicle was

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immediately identified as possible evidence to something terrible that had happened,

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because as the officer approached the rear of that car,

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it looked like bloody handprints on the back of the trunk,

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like where you would put your hands up to push

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down on the trunk, very readily seen on the car

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on the right side of the bumper, the back bumper portion.

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There was also blood drip patterns that just dripped out

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and down and then gravity kind of pulled the blood

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underneath the car bumper. So are you thinking exactly what

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I'm thinking and what the cop was thinking. Probably so,

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Oh my god, Aaron and his daughter might be in

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the trunk. So they popped the trunk, but it was empty.

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They were not there. So minus a few things like johnper.

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Cables or tools you would have in.

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Your vehicle trunk, it was empty. But it was very

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obvious that someone had been in the trunk because the

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carpet was soaked through with blood. So the vehicle was

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taped off. This is now a crime scene and after

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photographs and everything was done in the car was processed,

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it was sent to the crime lab for further processing,

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and attention was now focused on finding Gavin in the flesh.

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Now realize all of this is happening in just hours

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of the nine one one call. It's progressing very quickly.

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So as officers continued to search for him. Incredibly, he

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was located walking down the road in town with another friend.

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So police find them pull over and they're like, look,

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we need you to come with us, and they take

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them into custody. They explained, we've got to go down

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to the police station. We need you to answer some questions.

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And both of the these guys agreed, yeah, okay, we'll

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go down there. They were both very pleasantish. I say ish,

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because you know teens sometimes aren't the nicest, but they

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were pleasant ish. And the friend of Gavin, I have

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to tell you, this guy was really quirky, jovial, but

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it just wasn't normal. And there is bodycam of this

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so you could view it yourself and come up with

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your own conclusions. But it wasn't jovial, like funny, little

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happy dude.

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It was just like off.

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I don't know the word to put to it, but

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it was just off from what normative behavior you would expect.

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But the friend identified himself as Mike Smith, and he

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continued to be very talkative during the ride down to

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the police station. He was just chatting it up with

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the cop. Now, during that conversation, he told the cop

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that he wanted the cop to look at him, and

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so he's like, look, man, look, look, look, and he

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pointed out to the cop that he could dislocate his

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own wrists, and he was basically implying, without saying, that

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he could take the wrists of the cuffs off if

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he wanted to. But then he laughed it off and

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he was like, look, since you're a nice cop, I'm

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not going to do it, but I just want you

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to know I can. So the CoP's like, well, don't

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do that.

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Man.

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He's like, I won't, I won't. You're a nice guy.

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But then he continued to chat during the drive, and

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he told the cop that he had just started his

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own company, which he described as a protection agency of sorts.

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So he's telling him about this new company that he's

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wanting to start up or that he had just started up.

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And so finally, though they arrived at the jail, the

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boys were separated and they would be interviewed separately to

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see what, if anything, they knew about the missing daughter

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and father. Dulo Well, for starters, police would realize very

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quickly that Mike was not his real name. This dude

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that they had been talking to that was very jovial,

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but off was actually twenty two year old Russell Jones,

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the second he had given a fake name. Now, very

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talkative guy, somewhat smug.

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He has on a.

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Black tank top, and again all of his interactions are

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just off. It's not the behavior is weird. He has

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really short bangs that are cut almost like the Zuckerberg

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guy from Facebook, and easygoing. Like I said, very talkative,

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but a strange bird. So as the interrogation was just

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about to start, Russell asked the detective, hey, man, can

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we just can I catch a cigarette real quick before

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we start whatever this interview is. He said, I speak better,

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I talk better after a cigarette, and the cops like,

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no doubt, let's do it. So he takes him outside

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into the sally port where he gets him a cigarette

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and they start doing what they called smoking and joking.

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They were just you know, bullshitting and catching a drag

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and just chit chatting about whatever. But Russell just starts saying, look, man,

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I have nothing to hide, which is a weird statement

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right when you're being interrogated for something that you are

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supposedly not going to know anything about. But he then

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just word vomits it right there. He said, early this

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morning me and Gavin went over to Ellie's house to

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secretly move her out.

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Because she was in a bad situation.

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And he just flat out stated that right there in

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the sally Port and basically he goes on to say

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that her dad wasn't the good person that people made

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him out to be. And he's going on about this

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when the detective looks at him. He's like, all right, dude,

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real quick. You know we're pulling camera footage from all

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over that house. We are getting footage from surrounding homes.

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So if you're about to start something here, don't come

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at me with your bullshit. I want you to just

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tell me the truth. You started this, and just is

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everything that you're telling me the truth, because if not,

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you're starting to waste my time. And obviously we have

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a situation here. And that's when Russell looks at the

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detective and kind of cocks us head to the side

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and he says, well, ninety five percent of what I've

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said is the truth, but five percent is a lie,

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and it's almost like he's joking about it. So the

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cops looking at him like, I have no clue what

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is the truth, And I sure as hell don't know

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what the five percent lie is going to be. So

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he says, look, man, let me just get down to it.

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I would really hate for someone to, you know, stumble

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upon the dead body or the injured body of Aaron Fryer.

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So if you know where he is, or where Ellen

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is or any of this, could you please just tell me?

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Because time is a ticking. If you know where he is,

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can you please just bring me to him so that

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we can try to figure this out. And without hesitation,

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no no thinking, no nothing.

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The guy looks up.

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And goes, well sure, just like that, well sure, and

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the tech detective is like, is this dude for real

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or is he nuts? You know what is happening here?

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He said, sure, I'll take him.

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Let's go.

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So they load up in the car. They drive roughly

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to one miles towards a rural mountain road and they're

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just driving along when all of a sudden, rustle just

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yells stop.

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And kind of scares the cop.

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The cop slams on the brakes and he's like, right here,

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right here. So they put the car and park and

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they get out and they walk to the edge of

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the road, which understand again, it's a mountain side type road.

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So there is like a deep kind of drop off

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off the side of the road, and so they walk

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to the edge and they look down and sure enough,

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there is a green blanket tarp looking thing, and it

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was like tangled up in a downed tree. So it

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looked kind of like someone had tossed whatever this was

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off the side of the road, but the tree had

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caught it and stopped it from rolling further down. Now,

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I want to be clear, there's no body seen. It's

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just like this wrapped up tarp. So additional officers carefully

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made their way down this steep embankment, turning their feet

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sideways and kind of walking down as they could. They

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put on their gloves, and then when they get to

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that tar, they begin to gently start trying to pull

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back and unwrap to see what exactly was inside of

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the tarp. And then eventually one of the officers kind

481
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.200
of slightly jerks back and he's like, yep, it's him,

482
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:18.880
and he looks up at the detective Russell had actually

483
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:23.079
just brought them to the murdered body of Aaron Fryer.

484
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:27.400
And while we can rejoice here, just a few minutes

485
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:31.759
into this episode, you're like, what the hell, like, what

486
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:35.160
is happening here? This was almost too easy to be true.

487
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.079
But the body of Aaron Fryar was just located within

488
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.599
hours of the initial nine to one one call. And

489
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:45.319
this guy apparently was telling ninety five percent truth five

490
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:47.599
percent a lie, and it was up to the cops

491
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.559
now to figure out what it was. So Ellie's mom,

492
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.920
as you can imagine, she's on pins and needles, wondering

493
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.680
where her daughter was, and she was dying for any

494
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.640
information that may lead her to her baby girl.

495
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.480
When police advised her at this.

496
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:06.200
Point, look, we hate to have to tell you this,

497
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:10.039
but we have recovered your ex husband's body. And she

498
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:14.319
on that revelation of information almost she just almost fell

499
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:19.640
apart because now her daughter, you know, they recovered the dad,

500
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:21.599
not the daughter. And then now she's looking at her

501
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:23.559
other two little girls, going, oh my god, how do

502
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.240
I tell them this? How do I tell them that

503
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:27.200
their daddy's gone?

504
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:28.599
What do I do here? Please?

505
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.200
You know, help me? And then her mind immediately went

506
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.599
back to Ellie. What if Ellie's dead? Who has her?

507
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.279
What do they want with her? You know, she's fifteen

508
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:37.839
years old.

509
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:38.240
Help.

510
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:44.519
Well, there was something that mom didn't know at that

511
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.680
moment that police were now going to clue her in

512
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:52.440
on and that was when they had located Gavin and

513
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.160
Russell walking down the road. Ellie was actually with them.

514
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:03.000
Ellie was alive and well and just hanging out with

515
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:08.079
these two friends. So when this was also now revealed

516
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.480
to the mom, she didn't know whether to cry tears

517
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:15.400
of joy or to be pissed off. You know that

518
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.559
she had not been alerted to this news sooner she's

519
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.440
over here dying thinking something's happened to her daughter. And

520
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.960
for the last little while, police actually had Ellie at

521
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.359
the station. Now I'm not going to go deep into this,

522
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:29.359
but i will tell you that they hadn't told the

523
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.279
mom that they had her yet, not to be mean,

524
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:36.240
but more of as a strategy to see the reaction

525
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.279
of mom when they said they found the husband's body.

526
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:44.880
And you know, sometimes strategy is necessary to kind of

527
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:47.119
read people because they don't know who is involved with

528
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.519
this ex husband. It's an ex wife, you know, So

529
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:53.960
the case was still unsolved and it's getting stranger and

530
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.000
stranger by the minute, and so they had withheld that

531
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.799
information to see her reaction and then they believed, all right,

532
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.519
we can go ahead and tell her that we also

533
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.160
have the daughter. Not only is she alive and well,

534
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.720
but she's in a holding room and she's gonna be interviewed.

535
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:13.079
So for the moment, though, Russell was the main character

536
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.920
of the investigation. So they're now back at the station

537
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:20.000
after he has alerted them to where the body was,

538
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:23.279
and they wanted to keep him talking, all right, so

539
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.960
they did what many of us do with children. They

540
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.240
bought him some McDonald's to keep him happy. They bought

541
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.680
him some McDonald's, and then they brought him and placed

542
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:38.799
him into the interrogation room to eat alone, by himself.

543
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.759
There is no one else in the room. And that

544
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:48.319
is when the bizarre really started ramping up, because before

545
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.160
police even asked him any questions, there was not even

546
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:56.240
a cop in the room. He is by himself. This

547
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:01.200
Russell fella started rambling on. He looks up and he

548
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:06.480
starts talking to the cameras while alone in the interrogation room. Well,

549
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.960
obviously police are listening in, and so what I'm gonna

550
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:11.680
do is I'm going to play you some of his

551
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.039
ramblings because I want you to take a listen for

552
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:20.440
yourself and see what you derive. From Russell chatting it

553
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.880
up all alone in the interrogation room.

554
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:28.200
You're listening and Mike conversations, aren't you. I can still

555
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:38.680
twist your little big don't piss me off, so we

556
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:40.720
can play it the easy way or the hard way.

557
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:47.240
Gavin and Ellie are to be released to me and

558
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:52.319
mister Ford. You want the whole story because I did

559
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.920
miss a few parts.

560
00:30:54.960 --> 00:31:03.359
And you're listening in my conversations, aren't you? Camera off?

561
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.400
I don't care if you're a fed or not. I

562
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:10.640
can still twist.

563
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.200
Your little eye.

564
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.880
You do know, I know you're listening right, so listen here.

565
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.759
I know you're looking directly at me, aren't you. Let's

566
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.680
make it e though, do do do do? Before you

567
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:32.640
release Ellie to her parents or parent? You are to

568
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:38.279
release her to me? Do I make myself clear? No,

569
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.160
it's not a thread. Don't take it as soup. Don't

570
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.920
take it out of context. All right, But if you're

571
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.839
one of those two timing donate eating piece of crap

572
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:50.200
that don't like rules, that think they are a high.

573
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:56.640
School bully with a badge, but I eat high school

574
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:03.599
bullies for breakfast. Did you get all that Gavin was

575
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:07.559
only protecting Ellie.

576
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:14.440
Because the salt her father did the morning of the incident.

577
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.640
I know the tops twisted little pathetic rule game.

578
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.559
I use reverse psychology, which.

579
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:28.240
Makes me be able to make you think it's not

580
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:36.279
Gavin but in fact your own kid, by reverse psychology

581
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.359
making you looked like a lunatic. You want to play

582
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:46.920
hard ball? I played baseball when I was younger. Hum,

583
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:51.079
I'm not the one with the donut fetish. I know

584
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.400
you're twisted games boy.

585
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.400
Ellie and Gavin are to be put in this room

586
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.240
with me, and I'll give you a.

587
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:16.039
Total of hmmm, let's seven o'clock. Shall we two hours?

588
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.079
So we can do this the nice way and we negotiate,

589
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.559
or we can do it the hard way and I

590
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:35.160
can release my bipolar Oh magdno, that farm eio five.

591
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:40.319
Little bags eating at the traw ei eio.

592
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.880
Right now, wrong one and I'd really hate to get

593
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:50.519
hurt by a cop. I gave you, guys what you wanted.

594
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:57.039
Normally, it would take about twenty four hours to get

595
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:03.119
missing persons report. If there isn't evidence of blood, then

596
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.920
if the person's missing for a total of forty eight hours,

597
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:08.519
that's forty eight.

598
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.679
Hour mystery dummy, then you do your little search. Paffe.

599
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:18.880
By then, Gavin, me and her would be in California.

600
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.760
So hopefully you're just as confused as the rest of

601
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.480
everyone that was involved at this moment. And you know,

602
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.480
what do you do here? What do you think about this? Well,

603
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:33.360
I can tell you what I thought about it. It

604
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.559
reminded me. I've referred to this before. It reminded me

605
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.760
of the Supreme Court justice who was once asked about, well,

606
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.599
how do you know what child porn is in this

607
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.360
case that they were deciding, and the Justice simply answered, Look,

608
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:55.880
I can't put into words exactly verbatim what child porn is,

609
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:58.880
but I damn sure would know what it was if

610
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.880
I saw it. And the reason I say that is because, Honey,

611
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.360
in the same spirit of that notion, I may not

612
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.039
be a psychiatrist or a psychologist who can define with

613
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:13.480
perfection what being off your friggin' rocker looks like, but

614
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.159
I would know it when I heard it. And I'm

615
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.119
pretty sure I just heard a guy that's not playing

616
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:23.440
with a full deck. There is something amiss here. So

617
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.960
after all of his ramblings, the interview did get underway,

618
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.199
and you know, now with two people actually talking together,

619
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.599
and Russell was very clear that he did not want

620
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.800
to serve as a witness against his best friend Gavin.

621
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.920
But at the same time he was adamant that he

622
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.880
did not kill Aaron Fryer, that he was simply there

623
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:51.800
and helped dispose of Aaron's body. Also, he was clear

624
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.880
that Gavin had done this murder all on his own,

625
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.280
but that Gavin did it because he says he was provoked.

626
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:00.000
Into this murder.

627
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.079
So when he expanded on that, he said that Aaron

628
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:07.199
had pulled a rifle and pointed it at Gavin, who

629
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:12.079
then killed Aaron in self defense. So this was now

630
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.239
being framed out as a battle of man versus teen,

631
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.079
and the teen felt like he had no choice but

632
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.679
to kill this man to save his own life. You know,

633
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.039
what would you do if someone told a rifle and

634
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:26.880
pointed it at you. Well, now is the time for

635
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.320
the interview of Gavin, who had been waiting in a

636
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:30.880
hold holding cell.

637
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.360
What would he have to say? Well, let's talk.

638
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:35.800
About Gavin for a minute, so I can kind of

639
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.519
give you his vibe.

640
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:39.559
He is the.

641
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.679
Kind of kid that wears a leather jacket, a beanie

642
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:49.199
black pants. He has glasses, He has a social media

643
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.599
profile where he describes himself and these are his direct

644
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:58.719
quotes as a Leo Taken, Darth Vapor, sexy as fuck,

645
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:03.800
and one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. Now,

646
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:08.400
he was a high school dropout, but the vibe that

647
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.440
he tries to give is that he wants to be

648
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.119
seen as like dark and mysterious, edgy, you.

649
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.320
Know type thing, And.

650
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:24.920
He gives me vibes of somebody who doesn't quite get

651
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:26.800
what cool is or what.

652
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:27.800
Being badass is.

653
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.280
So he's trying to simulate what he thinks it is,

654
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.400
if that makes sense. It's not genuine. It's kind of cringey,

655
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.000
what the pictures he takes, and that he's trying to

656
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.599
be all dark. Sometimes he has color in his hair,

657
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:42.159
like you'll have green bangs or something like that, and

658
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:44.079
then he has the beanie kind of laying off the

659
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:48.800
back of his head. So in Gavin's interrogation, he flat

660
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:53.800
out says, look, Aaron hated me, but he didn't know why,

661
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:56.880
and that was his biggest gripe. He said that everything

662
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.320
was fine, that he had been he used to be

663
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.639
Ellie's boyfriend, and that there had been a sudden switch

664
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:07.880
they had gotten along fine, and all of a sudden,

665
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.159
Aaron just hated him. It was out of left field, okay,

666
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.960
And he said, look, I mean I can prove this

667
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.960
to you. Just a month ago, I was at home

668
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.599
and all of a sudden, someone was beating down my door,

669
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.800
banging and screaming and acting crazy, and I realized that

670
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:23.960
it was Ellie's dad.

671
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:25.400
He said, I called y'all.

672
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:27.960
I called the police because I was so scared he

673
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.199
was threatening to kill me. I called you go. Look,

674
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.280
you know there will be a report of this. I'm

675
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.400
telling you the truth. He said that Aaron had continued

676
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.119
to threaten him that he was going to kill him,

677
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.920
but Gavin was just really at a loss as to why.

678
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.000
This was now the case.

679
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:50.159
He was weepy, He was very weak during the interrogation,

680
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:55.199
but he did talk now. He also said that Ellie

681
00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:01.079
had been being abused by her dad, and he said

682
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:05.840
that he was physically abusing Ellie, which was horrible enough.

683
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.920
But then he opened up and he said, look, Ellie

684
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:12.719
told me something a few days ago, and it just

685
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:18.599
set me off in anger because Ellie told him that

686
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:23.719
allegedly she had been laying in bed pretending to be asleep.

687
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.880
And that her dad had come into the room, laid

688
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:30.599
down naked next to her and began masturbating on her,

689
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.280
and she just pretended to be asleep through the entire event.

690
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.880
So police, as they're listening to this or going okay,

691
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.559
we're kind of starting to get the gist of what's

692
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.159
going on here. Is this possibly a motive for this

693
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.039
confession that he's giving that there was problems? So police

694
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.199
felt like it was all starting to kind of make

695
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:55.360
sense as to as far as putting the case together. Now, Ellie,

696
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.199
like I told you, was also in custody, and that's

697
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:03.320
when her interrogation would begin. But it went more bizarre

698
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.920
than the others in ways. And I'm just gonna cut

699
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.840
to the chase here. But Ellie is brought in. She

700
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:14.599
is in this cute little blue spring little dress, and

701
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.800
she's got on a red coat with fur on the hood,

702
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.000
little flat shoes, you know, just looks like a little girl.

703
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:22.559
She's in cuffs.

704
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:25.559
But when they seat her in the room for a

705
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:29.440
moment before they start the interrogation, she's very.

706
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.000
Unemotional and stowic. She just kind of sits there.

707
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.480
It's like she's just staring at the wall and you

708
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:41.000
can't quite necessarily read. I guess what's going on, but

709
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:47.159
she is extremely flat and stow it well. The interrogator

710
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:51.599
comes into the room and very quickly on the interrogator

711
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.480
says hello, and then she says, what is your name?

712
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.880
And Ellie looks up at the and the investigator and says,

713
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:01.559
I don't want.

714
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:03.159
To tell you my name. I'm not going to tell

715
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:03.599
you my name.

716
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.960
Eventually, though, she does get a name out of her

717
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.119
but she says, okay, well, my name is Rain, and

718
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.480
I have the right to remain silent. Now, when you're

719
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.679
watching her do this, you're almost like taken aback, because

720
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.480
she went from just that stoic stare off to almost

721
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:30.400
like her eyebrows are raised. She seems snotty, and she

722
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.760
seems very indignant and defiant in what she is saying.

723
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.199
She goes, I would like to know why I'm in

724
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.800
handcuffs and why I am being detained. And this is

725
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:42.679
coming out of the mouth of a fifteen year old

726
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.360
who first of all, is lying about her name. Name's

727
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.000
not Rain, it's Ellie. The detective already knows that. And

728
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:50.840
after she says I'd like to know why I'm being detained,

729
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.480
she follows up with I have a right to know.

730
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.719
It's bizarre, it's very demanding, and it's very controversial the

731
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:00.679
way that she's.

732
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.320
Going at this detective. So the detective says, you know.

733
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:05.519
What, you're right, let me go ahead and read your

734
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.440
rights and all that and then let's, you know, do

735
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:11.199
our thing here now. Ellie says that when she had

736
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.400
left the house, the last time she left her dad's house,

737
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.519
everything was fine. Well, she's alerted to the fact that

738
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.000
her dad was missing at this point, and she responds

739
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:27.960
with that's disturbing. That's your response to your dad is missing.

740
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.280
And she then looks up and goes, well, I don't

741
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.360
I mean, maybe he's out looking for me because I

742
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.280
left the house. Have you know, kind of thought about that.

743
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.639
She then was told well, no, there's also a lot

744
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:41.639
of blood at the house, and she says, well, I

745
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.400
didn't know about that. I don't know anything about that.

746
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.039
But then she continues to just bold face lie. She

747
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.400
tells this detective that her name was Rain and she

748
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:55.280
says that she is eighteen years old. She tells her

749
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:59.039
that she completed high school, she graduated, which is a lie.

750
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.679
The fact that she said she was eighteen was a

751
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:06.480
lie because she was a sophomore, and it's just crazy.

752
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.639
It's just crazy weird that you would just bold face

753
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:11.559
lie about those things. So why kind of becomes the

754
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.719
issue here? Why would you lie about those things? Well,

755
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.840
she's asked more basic questions about when they picked her up,

756
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:20.519
what was going on, and she said, I was just

757
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.360
walking with my friends. But then she becomes evasive and

758
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.559
she says, I don't want to give you their names.

759
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:31.400
They are my friends. So they don't really get anywhere

760
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.599
with that, and then they say, well, you know your

761
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:38.280
dog is also missing from the house as well. This

762
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:41.119
seems to grab her attention. She's like, oh my god,

763
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.920
what now she had this little dog and his name,

764
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:45.239
which I don't get.

765
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:46.199
Was sparkle Beak.

766
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.880
Okay, sparkle Beek is missing, and this just seems to

767
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:53.920
tip her over the edge. Oh my god. And she's

768
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.679
a whispering, that's my baby. Where is my dog? Where

769
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.679
is my dog? And the because like, we don't know

770
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:04.239
where your dog is. We kind of think you might

771
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.480
know where your dog is. Because none of this is

772
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:12.320
making sense. We know that you're lying, so why, well,

773
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.880
she says, well, do you have the detective ass do

774
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:18.519
you have a boyfriend? And she says, no, we broke up.

775
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.760
What's his name? His name was Justin Well. The cop

776
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:26.000
knew that was a lie because Gavin was the ex

777
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:27.880
boyfriend or the boyfriend however you want to look at this,

778
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:34.960
not Justin. So everything, all in all, it was pretty

779
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.000
obvious at this point. It's a long invest interrogation. I'm

780
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.199
just summing it up for you. But they realized that

781
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.239
Ellie was not going to be truthful all the way around,

782
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.480
nor was she going to talk about anything that was

783
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.159
going to be of any help to the police.

784
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:48.280
All it was doing was digging.

785
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:49.920
A deeper hole for her as to why are you

786
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.920
lying about things that are very basically proven to not

787
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:59.239
be true. But after hours of interrogation, after even given

788
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.440
time to take an nap on the floor because she said,

789
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.760
I'm very tired, I've been up for twenty four hours straight,

790
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:09.639
they gave her all of these leniencies. Investigators finally got

791
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:14.679
Ellie to admit that Gavin and Russell had done something

792
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:20.400
to her father. Now, her explanation was that Russell had

793
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.760
killed her father with a machete. She put off this

794
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.679
victim vibe that she was just terrified about what had happened.

795
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:28.920
She was scared whatever.

796
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:33.280
So while she was adamant in this information that Russell

797
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:36.840
had killed her dad, it just didn't make sense. And

798
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:41.920
the reason is because the autopsy of Aarin would show

799
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.280
that that could not be the case. Because Aaron's autopsy

800
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:50.639
showed that he had five distinct fractures to his skull

801
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:55.400
which had caved in his entire head and his brains,

802
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:01.880
Like his head was demolished. So while the head was demolished,

803
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.760
it had not been cut and demolished. It was more

804
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:09.239
like blunt force trauma with something had caved in his head.

805
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:14.199
It was not done with a machete, as she was saying, now,

806
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:18.000
at the scene where the body of Aaron had been located,

807
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:20.960
obviously they had photographed everything, and I will put these

808
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.920
pictures on Patreon for you. I know people are gonna

809
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.920
ask me. And one thing that they had photographed while

810
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.679
they were there was a baseball bat that they had

811
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.519
found up in a tree like it had been thrown

812
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.079
end over end but got caught up in a tree.

813
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:42.519
So when police were speaking with Russell, Russell was very

814
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.440
clear that not only had he not killed him, he

815
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:48.400
had said that Gavin had killed Aaron, but his words

816
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:51.599
were that he had beat him with a baseball bat,

817
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.920
so they checked that off the list as not one

818
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:58.199
of his lies. Because now this is starting to make

819
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.880
more sense. But again, everybody's kind of telling misinformation as

820
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.639
they go, so they're kind of getting the picture here

821
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.119
of who's involved, but why or what is going on,

822
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.159
it's just not it's not completely jiving. So obviously police

823
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.320
do what they do, and they started cutting cutting warrants.

824
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:17.519
They cut them for the homes of these people, all

825
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:20.920
these people involved. They had a warrant for Walmart as

826
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:26.280
well as to get phone records in So I'm going

827
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.320
to break this down for you real quick. As far

828
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.039
as the warrants are concerned, let's start with those. So

829
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.360
when they went to Gavin's house, they found some really

830
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:40.519
damning information inside of a notebook. So it always is

831
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.679
bizarre to me how people write things down, Like if

832
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.199
you're gonna do something or plan something, why do you

833
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:46.880
write it down?

834
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.519
Like, I don't know, I just wouldn't do that.

835
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.360
But all right, so there are these notes that are

836
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.519
written and it's written in like teenager handwriting, and it

837
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:02.159
says once everything is in place, attack your dad, lay

838
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.559
low until he is asleep. Take whatever is useful. So

839
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:11.480
then there's a paper that said plan b get keys

840
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:18.039
for the house next door. Gavin becomes Rep. Dash payee,

841
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.880
get RV in my name, get RV fixed batteries and tires,

842
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:27.679
load RV, get stuff from my storage. Get Ellie, take

843
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:33.880
out mister Fryar quietly, take out my dad. Go back

844
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:38.360
to Ellie's dad's house, get guitars, her dog and alcohol.

845
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:45.079
Get dad's life insurance. And then written in this checklist

846
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:49.000
right there was basically a plan once they were at

847
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:53.239
the house to attack the dad. Basically it says Gavin

848
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:55.119
would be in the back of the house, and then

849
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:58.280
it was worded me on the side by the light.

850
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.000
So obviously, if he's saying Gavin in the back of

851
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:04.320
the house, me by the light, that means Russell was

852
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.599
the one writing this. So they are now like, okay,

853
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.000
that makes sense. And then underneath that it says Ellie

854
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:15.000
opens the windows. So now we're starting to see how

855
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.840
all of this is playing out and that this was

856
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.639
definitely something that was planned. Now, what was even more

857
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.239
insane here is that it says take out mister Fryer

858
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.760
and then take out my dad, which police now realized

859
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:33.639
was a second murder plan right there in black and white,

860
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:39.280
and that by my dad meant Russell's dad. Now why

861
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.039
do I think that? Well, there was like this little

862
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:47.360
manifesto that was written there and it says Russell Jones Senior,

863
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:51.320
which is the dad, and it says for eighteen years

864
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:58.679
of disrespect, usury, false accusations, quote unquote too far, punishments,

865
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:03.960
stealing of items I bought with my money, manipulation, not

866
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:08.960
listening with true ears of understanding, I charge you with this.

867
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:14.039
So it is okay.

868
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:17.079
So that's his gripe with his dad, and then in

869
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:19.239
the list of things to do, they're gonna also murder

870
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:19.639
his dad.

871
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:20.800
Because he's mad at his dad.

872
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:25.159
All right, Well, guess what you know, spoiler alert, his

873
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.039
dad wasn't dead. So they were never able apparently to

874
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.559
follow through with that second portion of the plan. Now,

875
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.519
there were some other warrants, like I told you, they

876
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.840
were issued as well, and this was going to be

877
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.679
one for some some.

878
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:43.360
Video at Walmart.

879
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:50.599
So when the murder apparently was completed, they knew that

880
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.559
these kids all went together to Walmart because they were

881
00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.000
on camera there and they bought junk food, Ellie bought hair,

882
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.760
and after they went to this walmart, they then went

883
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.000
to a third location. But before I tell you that,

884
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.840
the behavior in the walmart is so off putting because

885
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:13.840
they're just shopping around. But at one point, Gavin looks

886
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:16.320
up where he knows there's a camera and he starts

887
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.559
like sticking his tongue out, like like playfully, or like

888
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:21.519
he's trying to be cool or something like that. And

889
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.480
I need you to understand that police believe that the

890
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.280
body of Aaron Fryer was in the trunk of the

891
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.559
car while all of this was happening, because of the

892
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.440
timeframe that this was taking place.

893
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.559
So after they buy these.

894
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:43.480
Things, they then went to the disability office because Russell

895
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:49.000
was in fact on disability, Russell the junior, the younger one,

896
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.119
and so he said that he needed to go pick

897
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.199
up a check. He had told them that in the

898
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:55.920
interrogation room, but again they didn't.

899
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.159
Know what was real or what wasn't.

900
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.760
Well, sure enough, they were able to get video of that,

901
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:05.440
and when they're watching this, all three of them are

902
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:09.079
actually going to go pick up this check. So they

903
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.079
start looking back at that list of things in the

904
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.480
plan B that was laid out and the second thing

905
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.920
on the list said Gavin becomes Rep.

906
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:20.360
Dash pay Yee.

907
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:25.000
Well, when they talked to the people at the disability office,

908
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.760
they confirmed that the three of them had been in

909
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:31.440
there and that they were trying to change the person

910
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.519
who got paid from Russell and that the money would

911
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:39.719
go directly to Gavin, and that had actually alerted them

912
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:41.639
that was very bizarre to them, and so they had

913
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:44.039
taken note of it, and from what I understand, they

914
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:47.320
had even called law enforcement to kind of say, something

915
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:50.719
weird is going on. Well, as they continue to watch

916
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.079
this video, at one point, you see you can't hear anything,

917
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:56.320
but you see the three of them get into an argument.

918
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:58.239
You can just tell that they're in an argument. All

919
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.639
three of them storm out the front door of the

920
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.599
office and then they sit there and it's like Gavin

921
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:08.000
and Ellie are looking at Russell, and Russell's got his

922
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:10.559
hands out like he's trying to plead his case about something,

923
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:12.400
and then Ellie kind of throws her hands up, shakes

924
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.800
her head, and she storms off and walks out. Well,

925
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:18.400
from what we understand, or what they understood, is that

926
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:20.960
they must have gotten in an argument there because the

927
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.480
office would not change Gavin to be the paye of.

928
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:25.880
That disability check.

929
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:30.119
Okay, so they have kind of like this timeline going

930
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:33.360
on here. Well, then that's whenever they got the warrants

931
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:37.880
for the phone records. Now, this would really turn things

932
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.199
on its head because when they're looking at the phone records,

933
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:47.880
this opens up a whole lot of a whole lot

934
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.800
of communication between the three of them. But there were

935
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:55.960
a couple of texts from Ellie's phone to Gavin that

936
00:53:56.159 --> 00:53:57.880
kind of switched things up a bit.

937
00:53:58.719 --> 00:53:59.639
So while she's.

938
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:04.360
Being this young, lying, but little, you know, soft spoken

939
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.320
thing up in this interrogation room, what if I told

940
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.920
you some of the texts from Ellie read as follows,

941
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.159
we have to make sure he's dead by the time

942
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:18.199
we leave his house. Another one said you want to

943
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:21.599
kill him now, don't you? And then another one said

944
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:25.679
you can kill him in less than a minute. Right, Okay,

945
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:30.480
So obviously there's a whole lot more going on here

946
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.960
than she's a victim and that these guys you know,

947
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.119
had had had killed her dad and she didn't have

948
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.119
anything to do with it, and blah blah.

949
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:40.559
Blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah.

950
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:43.599
So police are now kind of getting the picture here,

951
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.000
they're they're they're really starting to figure out, uh, what's

952
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:53.039
going on. And Gavin eventually, now I'm talking a long

953
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:59.119
time under an interrogation, he eventually would fold. Okay, by fold,

954
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:04.840
I mean he would explain this in totality that a

955
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:06.840
whole lot had actually gone on. And it's going to

956
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:11.039
have to back up to the week before the murder

957
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:15.199
ever even occurred. So Ellie was not at home, and

958
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.480
Ellie had attended a band event. While Ellie was gone

959
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:23.559
to the band event, do you remember that attempted break

960
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:26.199
in that had occurred a week before that I mentioned

961
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:29.199
that went nowhere and they never called the police. Well,

962
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:34.119
this would now start to really really matter. See Gavin

963
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.440
and Russell they were the two that had attempted to

964
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.400
break in to Ellie's house and they had tried to

965
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:44.079
break in through Ellie's bedroom window. Why because they were

966
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:48.760
going to break in and kill her dad. Now they

967
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.880
were messaging Ellen the entire time and letting her know

968
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.519
what was going on, keeping her informed. So she's over

969
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.119
there play in the saxophone, but also watching as her

970
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.559
dad is supposedly going to be murdered. But the problem

971
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.079
was that once they got inside of the house, they

972
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.960
realized that Aaron, who now had a new girlfriend. The

973
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.840
girlfriend was in the house and actually asleep, so it

974
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:09.800
scared him off and they took off running and they

975
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:10.639
left the house.

976
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:11.920
And never committed the murder.

977
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.920
Aaron was none the wiser, okay, so he left the house.

978
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:19.360
He then went and he picked up Ellie and her

979
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:23.480
two sisters from the band event, and they he took

980
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:27.119
his girl's Halloween shopping together, showed him a nice time,

981
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.639
I guess, getting their costumes and all that, and then

982
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:32.360
he took the girls to Burger King where they had

983
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:36.519
dinner together and had a good time. And then they

984
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:40.280
all had come home and sat together and watched a

985
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:44.199
movie together in the living room. He had no clue

986
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.079
that two teenagers had tried to break into his home

987
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.280
to come and kill him, but he did know that

988
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:52.360
someone tried to break in.

989
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:53.440
All right.

990
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:59.800
The whole time, Ellie is acting like everything's fine, no problem, okay, Well,

991
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.000
after that happened, obviously, there was the failed event the.

992
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.480
Very next week is Whenever.

993
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:12.480
Gavin says that he was basically given no choice and

994
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.719
that he had to kill Aaron because two days before,

995
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:20.360
which would have been a Saturday, is whenever Ellie confided

996
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.719
in him that not only had her dad been physically

997
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:26.199
abusing her, but that's whenever she had told him that

998
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:31.199
he was basically sexually abusing her. So that is why

999
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:33.840
he had no conclusion he had to go do it.

1000
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.159
Obviously he didn't, but that was kind of how it

1001
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:42.039
was explained. So when Ellie made the accusations against her

1002
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:43.920
father for the sexual abuse, which I do want to

1003
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:48.239
let you know, was never verified to be true in

1004
00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:53.400
anything that was put out there, her sisters said.

1005
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:54.480
That that never happened.

1006
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:59.039
It never happened to them, and no friends of Ellie

1007
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:04.280
ever said that she confided in them that her father

1008
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:06.320
was sexually abusing her at all. Now she was going

1009
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:08.480
around saying her dad's was too strict and he had

1010
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:12.000
too many rules and all of those things. And then

1011
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:14.679
in her interrogation she said their father was like beating

1012
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.320
her in things of that nature. But she also lied

1013
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:19.840
about her name and her age and everything else. So

1014
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.000
you can decide what you want to believe in all

1015
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.440
of that. But whenever she broke the news to her

1016
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:29.480
boyfriend two days before the murder that he was sexually

1017
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:33.880
abusing her. That is when everything went into play, and

1018
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:40.440
that is whenever Russell started his protection agency. So they

1019
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:44.800
started making all of these notes in the notebook. And

1020
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:47.719
that second thing about making Gavin the payee, and the

1021
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:50.960
reason that they went down to the to the Disability

1022
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.119
office that have him changed as the payee is that

1023
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:55.480
was part of the business model because you know, he

1024
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:57.679
was the protection agency and they're you know, they were

1025
00:58:57.719 --> 00:58:59.920
changing the money out because they knew they would probably

1026
00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:02.320
have to go on the run after they enacted their

1027
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:04.360
protection agency.

1028
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.480
Vengeance on this horrible dad.

1029
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.480
So they made all of these plans and part of

1030
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:12.519
that was that they were gonna have to you know,

1031
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.599
steal money and do all of those things. So this

1032
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:18.199
is how they broke it down. Whenever they went in

1033
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.400
that night, Ellie acted like everything was fine and she

1034
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.079
was going to go off to bed. At some point,

1035
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:26.519
the guys it was about five o'clock, five thirty in

1036
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:28.639
the morning, they went sneaking up to the house.

1037
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:30.039
It was still very very dark.

1038
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:33.480
Ellie did open a window and allowed Gavin to come

1039
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:36.360
in through the back of the house. Now Russell did

1040
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:38.760
stay on the outside of the house and he did

1041
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:41.559
have a machete. He had armed himself with a machete,

1042
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:43.760
and that is where Ellie got that information when she

1043
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.159
was trying to blame the murder on him, not her boyfriend.

1044
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:49.559
So he stayed outside in case, you know, he had

1045
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.760
to do some kind of dramatic backup plan if things

1046
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:55.360
went awry. Well, when Gavin went to go in, he

1047
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.119
knew that the dad was going to be sleeping on

1048
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.880
the couch because the dad always slept on the couch

1049
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.159
whenever Ellie was there. And by the way, I just

1050
01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:05.360
have to say this real quick, if that is the case,

1051
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.599
don't you think if he was going to molest or

1052
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:09.679
rape or do something to his own daughter, he would

1053
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:11.320
have slept in the bed with her and not on

1054
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:13.840
the couch to give her own space. That's my own opinion,

1055
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.239
but you can decide what you want to decide there. Well,

1056
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:18.760
when he came into the house, he liked to dress

1057
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:23.199
with like combat boots and clothing of that nature. Well,

1058
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.519
he went to go sneak into the living room and

1059
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:29.880
when he did that, he accidentally kicked a trash can,

1060
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.159
and because he had those combat boots on, it made

1061
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:35.199
a loud noise. Okay, so he scampers off to the

1062
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:36.679
back of the house and goes and he hides in

1063
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:37.559
the back bedroom.

1064
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:39.000
Well, it woke up erin.

1065
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:43.239
Well. Ellie, realizing that he was awake, kind of made

1066
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:45.360
herself known and was like, oh, sorry, I need to

1067
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:48.360
go use the bathroom. And she even said her own

1068
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:50.679
words that heard. Daddy looked at her and said, quit

1069
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:53.519
spook in me like that. After that break in, you

1070
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:54.960
know that it makes me nervous.

1071
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.760
Sorry, daddy, right, and she goes out of the room.

1072
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:03.199
Well, whenever he starts snoring again and is asleep on

1073
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:08.320
the couch, that is whenever everything started kind of unrolling.

1074
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.840
So they had waited about an hour okay before the

1075
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.480
attack happened, and the whole time, by the way, they

1076
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:18.079
did tell investigators that they were professing love and marriage

1077
01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:20.639
to one another while they were waiting for the daddy

1078
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:27.320
to start snoring. So whenever he fell back asleep and

1079
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:31.639
he started snoring again, that's whenever Ellie handed Gavin.

1080
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:32.840
The baseball bat.

1081
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.960
The whole reason that there was a baseball bat in

1082
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.039
the house is that Aaron had gotten it to use

1083
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:42.000
as protection against anyone who may try to break in

1084
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.159
and hurt him or his daughter's because of that previous

1085
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.519
break in attempt. So she hands him the bat and

1086
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.840
said take him out, ready when you are, and then

1087
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:56.760
she stayed kind of further back. While all of this

1088
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:00.920
was happening. Russell was outside, still standing there, his back

1089
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.639
up with the machete. And that's whenever Gavin goes into

1090
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:09.519
that living room. The dad is dead asleep, snoring, and

1091
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.320
he takes the baseball bat, he raises it over his

1092
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.239
shoulder and he slammed it down into the head of

1093
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:20.079
Aaron Fryer. Obviously this woke him up, and that's whenever

1094
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:23.679
he screamed, oh fuck, which is what the younger daughters heard, which,

1095
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:27.079
by the way, his younger daughters listened to him be murdered.

1096
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:30.519
Because after that first swing, that's when Gavin started raising

1097
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.280
the bat above his head with full force and just

1098
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:38.440
bashing it down, a metal baseball bat, smashing it down

1099
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:42.400
over and over, over and over on that man's head

1100
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:46.760
till he crushed his skull in and his brains and

1101
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:52.280
everything were just smashed in and he could not do anything.

1102
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.360
It was over before it started. And he was swinging

1103
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:57.800
the bat with so much might that when he raised

1104
01:02:57.800 --> 01:02:58.199
it up.

1105
01:02:58.119 --> 01:02:59.039
Over his head.

1106
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.840
He hit the light fixture with the bat, that's why

1107
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.400
it shattered, and the glass slammed down on the floor,

1108
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.079
and he continued to swing, causing all the blood spatter

1109
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:10.800
to go up and down the walls, up on the ceilings,

1110
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.119
and then he slumped over, which is why the blood

1111
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.440
began to pull on the couch, pouring out of his

1112
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.480
head and onto the floor. Now the little girls are

1113
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:22.039
hiding in the back and they've heard it, the pinging noise,

1114
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:24.840
obviously the baseball bat slamming down on her dad's head.

1115
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:28.519
Then when that stopped, she heard the glass break and

1116
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.639
she acknowledged, so it's making perfect sense. Then she said

1117
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:36.199
she heard things moving around like a dragging sound. Well, yeah,

1118
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:39.440
that's because they went and opened the door and Russell

1119
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:42.360
came inside. Now, let me tell you something. Everybody wants

1120
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:44.760
to be a fucking badass till it's time to be

1121
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:49.280
a badass. Because whenever Russell came inside and was doing

1122
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:53.360
his protection agency things, one look at the condition of

1123
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:57.119
the skull and face of Aaron Fryer after taking a

1124
01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.320
baseball bat to it over and over again. It made

1125
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.679
him sick. It freaked him out and scared him. He

1126
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:05.639
ran to the bathroom sick. Yeah, it was that bad,

1127
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:08.559
he said. The face of that man was so scary looking.

1128
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:11.639
But then he got his composure. He came back out

1129
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:13.880
and they laid him out on I believe it was

1130
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.679
a tinker bell blanket, and then put him in that

1131
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:20.480
other green tarp thing rolled him up, and once they

1132
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:24.960
did that, Gavin held the head and Russell grabbed him

1133
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.360
by the feet, and that's when they started pulling him

1134
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:30.199
out that whole direction I told you about where the

1135
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:32.360
blood trail went through the backyard up to the gate,

1136
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.079
and they put him in the trunk of his very

1137
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:39.719
own car. When they did all of that, they were

1138
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.239
walking back and forth. That is when the little sister

1139
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:45.199
Sierra looked out of her window and she saw Gavin

1140
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:49.000
and Russell walking by her window. Thank god she did

1141
01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:52.199
not see her daddy being carried out. That would have

1142
01:04:52.239 --> 01:04:55.079
been just It's bad enough what happened, but thank god

1143
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:57.480
she didn't see it. So once they put him in

1144
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.599
his car, they Ellie by the way. She was so

1145
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:02.840
traumatized and a victim by this. She managed to rifle

1146
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:06.000
through his things and get his wallet so she could

1147
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:07.280
get the cash out of it.

1148
01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:08.559
They stole some other stuff.

1149
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.639
They took her dog all of those things, remember sparkle Beek.

1150
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:13.159
Because she had no idea where the dog was.

1151
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:16.079
And then they drove off into the sunset to go

1152
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:20.079
live their lovey dovey lives. As they drove off, that's

1153
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.239
when they went to Walmart. Now here's something that caught

1154
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:27.079
the attention of investigators. While they're at Walmart, they didn't

1155
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.360
just buy candy, junk food, and hair dye.

1156
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:35.280
She also bought a pregnancy test. Why is a fifteen

1157
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:35.840
year old.

1158
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:41.920
Buying a pregnancy test? Well, very interesting here. It's because

1159
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:46.599
she told Gavin she was pregnant. When did you tell

1160
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.679
Gavin you were pregnant? She had told Gavin she was

1161
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:55.320
pregnant two weeks prior to the murder. So now it

1162
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.039
kind of makes you go, huh. So now, wait a second,

1163
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:02.000
Wait a second, Wait a second, Gavin, I need you

1164
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:09.000
to know this. Gavin was nineteen years old, Ellie was

1165
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:13.320
fifteen years old. So the math ain't math in here

1166
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:16.639
as far as the law is concerned. And probably, I

1167
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:20.320
would say, in the mind of her daddy, no wonder.

1168
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:23.480
Her dad wanted to beat the fucking breaks off of

1169
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:28.480
this nineteen year old. He had allegedly impregnated his fifteen

1170
01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:32.119
year old daughter, which, by the way, is illegal. I

1171
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:35.360
hope we can all agree on that this is horrible.

1172
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:37.960
So when they went and they spoke by the way

1173
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.679
to one of Ellie's friends, Ellie's friends who was no

1174
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:44.199
longer a friend with Ellie, she gave them some information

1175
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.679
that I want to interject here. They were like, why

1176
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:49.119
are you no longer friends with her? And her best

1177
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:51.559
friend of many many years said, I'm not friends with

1178
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.239
her anymore because of the lying. She lies too much,

1179
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:58.079
And she said I felt like she betrayed me because

1180
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:01.280
one day I'll just line this up for you. About

1181
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:05.440
a few weeks prior to the murder, she got a

1182
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:07.440
phone call from Ellie and Ellie said, listen, I'm gonna

1183
01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:09.159
be in trouble. Please, can you just cover for me

1184
01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:12.159
with my dad please? And the friend thought she was

1185
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:14.480
doing the right thing, and when the dad called. When

1186
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:17.000
Aaron called the friend and said, hey, is Ellie spending

1187
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:19.880
the night over there, she told him yes, she has

1188
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:22.800
been staying at my house. The reality was that she

1189
01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:25.000
had been sneaking out and she had been sleeping over

1190
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:29.280
at Gavin's house, and Aaron knew it that Daddy knew it,

1191
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:32.199
and that is the reason it now makes sense that

1192
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.960
he went over and was beaten down Gavin's door because

1193
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.679
he was onto it now and he was furious and

1194
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:43.280
he wanted that boy to stay away from his daughter,

1195
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:45.320
and he had even vocalized this to some of his

1196
01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:48.519
adult friends that this boy was no good and that

1197
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:50.800
Ellie had been doing really good in school and that

1198
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:52.559
he was just now dragging her down. And then to

1199
01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:56.840
find out that he's nineteen years old dating his sophomore daughter,

1200
01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:01.199
I'm sure he did come unglued, and that is why

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01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.480
they had to enact this plan to kill him in

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01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:08.320
their minds, to kill him and to get all this

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01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:10.400
money and to get everything lined up and to run

1204
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:13.320
off into the sunset and to go be together. And

1205
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.640
the reason behind this, the real reason behind all of this,

1206
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:20.359
is because Gavin was nineteen, Ellie was fifteen. And whenever

1207
01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:24.279
Aaron found out, because Gavin had been telling people that

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01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:28.079
Ellie was going to have his baby, Aaron came on

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01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:29.960
glued and.

1210
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.000
He was going to go to the police about this.

1211
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:33.920
And what happens when you go to the police and

1212
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:35.680
a nineteen year old is having sex with a fifteen

1213
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:38.760
year old and has allegedly gotten her pregnant. What happens

1214
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.560
they go to jail. You cannot convince me otherwise on

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01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:43.039
this one.

1216
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:44.159
You just can't.

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01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.119
He even cried during his interrogation and said that Ellie

1218
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:49.640
was carrying his baby and now to find out that

1219
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:52.079
the dad was abusing her sexually, he felt like he

1220
01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:54.720
had to go protect his unborn baby as well as

1221
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:58.640
his baby mama. But when he entered the home, okay,

1222
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:00.720
and he went and he did all this, and he

1223
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:01.560
beat the hell out of.

1224
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:03.279
Him and he killed this guy.

1225
01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:05.479
I don't think the motive was just because of this

1226
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:08.880
unborn baby. It's because he didn't want to go to jail.

1227
01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:11.399
And that's why Ellie was in on this. She helped

1228
01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:15.239
to plan her father's murder and had it laid out

1229
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.479
so she could just go be with a nineteen year

1230
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:23.239
old man. That is what happened here. And by the way,

1231
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:30.720
Ellie was never pregnant. Sorry, she wasn't pregnant. No wonder

1232
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:33.479
she had to buy the pregnancy test after the murder

1233
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:35.720
because he believed her up until that point. I'm not

1234
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.720
saying he didn't believe her then, but she wasn't pregnant.

1235
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:42.399
She was drama and she was drumming up the drama

1236
01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.640
so that they would go through with this murder of

1237
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:47.000
her father, and they did.

1238
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:48.520
It's sick.

1239
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:53.079
So Gavin Curtis McFarlane nineteen years old, he was arrested.

1240
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:56.479
He was charged with murder, robbery in the first degree,

1241
01:09:56.680 --> 01:10:01.520
tampering with evidence, rape in the third degree. Russell Jones

1242
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.359
the second, who was twenty two years old, he was

1243
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:08.199
charged with murder, robbery in the first degree and tampering

1244
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:12.760
with evidence. And Ellen Rose Fryer fifteen years old, was

1245
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:16.479
charged with murder, robbery in the first degree and tampering

1246
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.279
with evidence. All three of them would go on trial,

1247
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:23.560
and as you can imagine, all three of them were convicted.

1248
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:26.560
Gavin got twenty five to life for what he did,

1249
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:31.439
Ellie got twenty five years, and then Russell, his charges

1250
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:34.479
I believed were amended and brought down to more like

1251
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:37.439
conspiracy charges, and he was given a total of fifteen

1252
01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:40.560
years in prison for his role in this murder.

1253
01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:43.439
And while that's.

1254
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:47.560
Great and all, I can't help but think about the

1255
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:50.800
fact that patricide is so not normal. It's not normal

1256
01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:53.039
for someone to want to kill a parent. But then

1257
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:57.239
to be fifteen years old and think that a guy

1258
01:10:57.840 --> 01:10:59.479
that you think you're in love with is worth killing

1259
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.399
your father is just to me, it's the most mind

1260
01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:05.079
blowing of things that can happen. And another thing that

1261
01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:07.880
really aggravated me, And maybe this is a more personal thing,

1262
01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:10.479
but you know, I worked my ass off to pay

1263
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.119
for my master's degree that I got. I worked my

1264
01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:16.000
ass off to pay those bills, and you know, I

1265
01:11:16.039 --> 01:11:18.039
had to go to work and school and all of

1266
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.920
that at the same time. And while Ellie has been

1267
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:24.000
behind bars, she has been given the opportunity to not

1268
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:28.119
get just one, but two master's degrees while she is

1269
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:32.000
behind bars. And while I'm thrilled that she would continue

1270
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:35.199
education and try to better herself, who paid for that?

1271
01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:38.920
You know what I mean? Who paid for that? Because

1272
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:41.520
nobody paid for mine? And so I just that kind

1273
01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:45.159
of aggravated me as well, that those types of opportunities

1274
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.239
are extended. But I guess we have to help let

1275
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:51.479
people better themselves. But whatever, Okay, Now, while there was

1276
01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:53.600
an interrogation, I want to tell you that Ellen brought

1277
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:57.039
up Romeo and Juliet Laws out of her own mouth.

1278
01:11:57.239 --> 01:11:59.119
She brought it up and was talking about Romeo and

1279
01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:01.680
juliet Laws in her interrogation as if that was going

1280
01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:05.520
to make a difference in a murder case, specifically of

1281
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:08.199
her father, and I kind of scoffed at that. I

1282
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:10.760
couldn't help but laugh, because, like Juliette was thirteen, you

1283
01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:13.479
know what I'm saying, Like, let's not romanticize questionable judgment twice,

1284
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:15.359
baby girl, Like that's not going to justify what has

1285
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:17.560
happened here, And for you to even bring it up

1286
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:22.119
is asinine. Your daddy tried to save you from yourself,

1287
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.000
and look where that got you.

1288
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.279
You wouldn't listen.

1289
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:29.880
You didn't want to take the advice of an older

1290
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:32.600
person who cared about you, who knew that this was

1291
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.920
a bad situation, but you couldn't see that because you

1292
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:39.239
were so consumed with a wanna be bad boy that

1293
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:43.079
was really cringey. By the way, and a daddy's love

1294
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:46.560
for his daughters is something that is special to me.

1295
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:50.079
It's something that so many kids lack in this world today.

1296
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:52.840
And you had a dad that was trying to show

1297
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:56.319
you that this was a huge mistake, and he no

1298
01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:58.800
matter what he did, it didn't matter to you, and

1299
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:06.279
you threw it away for what for what Your love

1300
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:11.239
story here is seriously lacking. And just so you know,

1301
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:14.359
your Romeo, your stud muff and your night and shining

1302
01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:16.760
armor that you were lying to the entire time. He

1303
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:21.039
folded like a napkin when he was questioned about the situation.

1304
01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:24.159
So I just want to point out, you fucked up

1305
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.319
your own life. You destroyed the lives of other people.

1306
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:30.319
You took the life of your father. Your two younger

1307
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:32.720
sisters no longer have a daddy, so that you can

1308
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.439
run off and go screw a nineteen year old.

1309
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:36.039
I hope you're proud of yourself.

1310
01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:39.600
And on that note, I have seen Romeo and Juliette

1311
01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:42.520
and I have read it, and the real Romeo took poison.

1312
01:13:42.560 --> 01:14:00.319
Bro Okay, your dude, he couldn't even take responsibility.