May 13, 2025

Homicide: Dan Markel Part 2

Homicide: Dan Markel Part 2
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Season 7

In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ completes her breakdown into the tragic murder of law professor Dan Markel, whose life was cut short amid a contentious divorce from Wendi Adelson. KJ delves into the investigation, revealing suspicions surrounding WendI and her family, as well as potential gang involvement.

Chapters
04:50 Boob Enhancement Connection
15:33 Arrests and Indictments
20:03 Jeff's Insights
30:16 Wiretap Evidence
44:16 The Initial Plan
1:08:20 Aftermath of the Murder
1:16:37 Post-Murder Developments

Video, Sound and Editing for Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings is provided by the podcast experts atEnvision Podcast Studiosin Denham Springs, LA.


Executive Producer:Jim Chapman

Sources
https://www.wctv.tv/2022/04/21/extended-timeline-key-dates-dan-markel-murder-case/https://www.jewishtampa.com/jews-in-the-news/dan-markelhttps://jewishjournal.com/judaism/obituaries/131198/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLjSTe3bI1shttps://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/gang-profile-latin-kingshttps://www.justice.gov/archive/ndic/pubs27/27612/appendb.htm

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let's jump into this episode. So we left off with

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Dan Markel murdered in his garage at his home after

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a recent divorce and realized that somehow the Latin King's

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gang was possibly involved in his murder. So the police

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identified Luis and Sigfredo as people of interest in Dan's murder.

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By the way, if you haven't listened to part one,

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make sure you go do that because all of this

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is going to be a spoiler if you haven't listened

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to part one yet, so spoiler alert, go back. Can

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listen to part one before you finish this one. But

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no matter how hard the police tried, police couldn't find

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any link between Dan and the Latin Kings. There was

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zero connection. There was zero connection. There, There was zero

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connection between Luis and Sigfredo and Dan. They never had

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come in contact with each other before, they had never

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crossed paths, and this fact is what made police want

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to change their approach altogether on what could this possible

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connection be. Wendy's family, as I already told you in

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episode one, had already previously been cleared as having been

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the shooters of Dan. They were not there, but investigators

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wondered if maybe there was a link between Wendy's family

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and these men of interest. Now I know you're like, well,

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that seems far fetched, but respectfully, so is committing murder

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if we're all going to be for real right now.

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So this is where the old Booby's comment that I

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left off with last week is really going to come

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into the picture. Remember that last Mike drop that I

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did about boot Someone was gonna have to get something

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off their chest. Well, it turns out that a confidential

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informant called police and told them told them that a

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woman named Catherine mcbanwa had gotten a breast augmentation, and

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that it was done with one of the most prominent

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surgeons in town. His name was doctor Leonard Rowdner. His services,

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by the way, were on the higher end financially as

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far as getting breast augmentation went. And so it just

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so happened that her boyfriend had picked up half the

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tab and this confidential informant felt like.

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Maybe they should go check that out.

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Okay, So what could boob enhancement or breast enhancement, what

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could that possibly have to do with Dan's murder. Well,

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as they pondered this possible connection, they now knew the

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names of the men that they believed had driven the

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prius that had shown up to murder Dan. So on

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May twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, investigators interviewed Sigredo Garcia about

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his possible involvement in the murder, and of course, as

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you expect any murderer to do, he completely denied it.

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He said he had never been to Tallahassee. He said

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he had never ever been on a trip with Luis Rivera.

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He knows nothing about the murder at all, and they

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must have the wrong guy. Well, the very next day,

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thirty four year old Sigfredo was arrested in Hollandale Beach, Florida,

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on charge is the first degree murder in relation to

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the murder of Dan. And he also, by the way,

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caught a possession of cocaine charge while he was at it.

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So this guy's really he's really doing good things here.

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So the police decide right after that they're going to

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hold a press conference and they formally now say we

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also think Luis is an additional suspect in this as

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they put his name out there for the whole world.

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And the thing was, even though they said this, all

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of the court documents, all of the filings and things

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that were going to be done from this point forward,

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they were ordered by a judge to be sealed so

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the flow of information for the case wouldn't be out

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there for the public.

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But there was a reason for this.

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Police were still elbowed deep in data trying to figure

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out something. What they were trying to figure out though

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they weren't quite sure and I know that sounds crazy.

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They they knew they were onto something, they just didn't

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know yet what it was.

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So hear me out.

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On this June second of twenty sixteen, documents in the

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murder case are finally unsealed, and they now reveal that

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there is, in fact a proven connection between the Adelson

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family and Sigfredo. Remember how I said, just a minute

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ago that a boyfriend paid for half of Catherine's boobs. Well,

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what they found out was that Catherine's boyfriend was actually

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Wendy's brother, doctor Charlie Adelson.

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Okay, now, so police were biting.

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At this point, well to the evidence, to be clear,

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not the boobs, but they were biting. But seriously, how

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did this fit into the case. So they kept sniffing

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around that concept. When they realized it was like a

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light bulb went off. It wasn't the boobs themselves that mattered,

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It was when she got them that mattered. See, she

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got them roughly three months after Dan's murder. So was

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it possible that they were a payoff for murder? Now, look,

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I don't know the going rate for murder, you know,

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but i'd fully expect it to be more than one

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boob if we're gonna be completely serious right now. But

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they wondered, and they decided that they were going to

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kind of go down that alley with this.

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So they kept digging.

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They left no stone unturned, and they found that Catherine,

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who I might sometimes refer to as Kate just because

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she goes by Catherine or Kate. They found that Catherine

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also worked at the Adelson Institute Wendy's Families Dentistry Packed practice.

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So finding this out, they went to the Adal Institute

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to get some information on Catherine.

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So when they got.

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There, they were greeted by the lady that sat at

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the front desk. Her name was Erica Johnson. She worked

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there taking payments and scheduling clients and answering the phone.

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So the police identified themselves to her, and they said,

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we'd like to go ahead and get Katherine mcmahonwia's employee

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records from you. So Erica then turned around and she

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called Charlie to ask where Kate's records were or what

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to do about this.

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But what neither of.

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Them knew was that the phone line to the office

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had been tapped. So take a listen to the call

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as it happened.

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Hey, matis here asking for records for Katy for what?

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Does she worked here? I would I wouldn't die give

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any for me? Yeah, and the the ex did she

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worked out? Like, yes, she worked there, But I don't

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know what you want because American, Eric, Yeah, do me

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a favor. I'm not there right now mm hmmm, and

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I'm in surgery, but it's not my office. It's my

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dad's office, so I can't give anything out right. You know,

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I don't have access to it. I don't know where

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anything is. Okay, So you don't have you don't have

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access to anything, so I don't know anything. Yeah, so

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I would do this. I would not. I would not

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speak to anybody. Mm hmmm. I mean you could. I mean,

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you could do whatever you want, but I don't. It's

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my dad's office. Yeah, so I don't have access to

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Sandy that stuff. Okay. So they can talk to my

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dad and I'm sure they'll be able to get whatever

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they want from them, Okay, I understanding me. So if

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I if I had it, I mean, so you can

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talk toever you want, since they don't talk to anybody. No,

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you know, I'm gonna do whatever you Yeah, I mean no,

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I mean I'm not since they don't talk anyway, talk

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to whoever on the planet you want to talk to.

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But it's not my office and it's not your office, right,

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So you don't have records give them, and I don't

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have records to give them. So I'm sure they'll be

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able to up them out in any way any way

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they can. Okay. So that's about that. Off. Tell them that, yeah,

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tell them that it's not I mean it's not my office.

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Office is sold back to my dad actually a lot

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of time ago. So tell them that you will. So

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it's actually you're talking to the wrong doctor and right, right, right,

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So what you need to do is tell them that

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you will get in contact has become Uh, I mean

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it's not your office. You can't, they said within twenty

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days of support statues provide above cars. Uh are they

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are they there now or are they just being there?

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There but them the back. I'm in the back. They're

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waiting for me to come back. Oh and they want records. Yeah,

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give me, give me a favor. I'm gonna call you

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from the landline on yourself. Okay, okay.

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See, Erica knew that Katie didn't work there, and so

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she was kind of confused by the request. That's why

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she called doctor Charlie because his parents were out of town,

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and so she stepped into the back office to make

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that phone call to him because she was worried about

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patients being alarmed seeing the police there and possibly overhearing

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this conversation. She never turned anything over to the police

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per his instructions, but they found out what they needed.

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Anyway, she didn't work there.

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See, they also figured this out and took that into

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account when they got a financial crimes investigator with the

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Attorney General's office. Her name was Mary Hull. They got

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her on the case and she was really focused on

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the finances that may have flowed from Charlie to Catherine,

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and this is what she found. Charlie was given Catherine money,

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lots of money. He was buying cruise tickets for her

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and her mom. He bought half custody of the boobs.

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He bought her a car. He paid for thousands of

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dollars in repairs on two separate vehicles. He was also

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given money that was supposed to cover health insurance.

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Because she had all these things going on.

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So she also found out that Kate never got a

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W two from the Adelson Institute, yet a review of

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their business bank records showed that she was on the payrol.

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She received a series of forty four checks over this

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long period of time. She was getting two checks a month,

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where she basically was getting two plus grand every month,

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and all of those payments began after the murder. Yet

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she never worked there. She never worked there a day

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in her life. She didn't do any phone work for them,

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she didn't work from home, she didn't do anything. They

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checked every avenue. So it was a very interesting note

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that she also stopped getting payments when Sigfredo was arrested.

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And guess who signed every single check that Catherine got.

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None other than the mom, Donna Adelson, who ran the office.

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So the director of the dentist office, who knew that

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this girl did not work, there is signing checks and

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giving her check seats each month.

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Coincidence, I think not.

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Fast forward to June seventeenth and both Sigfredo and Luis

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were indicted for the murder of Dan and during a

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basic questioning, Sigfredo explains, man, I got children. Man, I'm

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a father. So they're like, oh, you know you have kids.

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He's like, yeah, you know me and Kate. And they're

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like wait who he says, Kate mcbamwah, that's my baby mama.

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Holy hell.

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If they don't drop back in their seats, the light

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bulb went off. There it is, there's what they've been

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looking for. They just didn't know what it was. Charlie

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Adelson was dating Kate mcbanwa, who had kids with the

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hitman for hire, Sigfredo Garcia. She was the link between

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a family that was angry with Dan and a gang

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member willing to kill for enough money.

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So what are the chances of that? No wonder? The

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check stopped after Sigfredo was arrested, question and arrested. No

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freaking wonder. So Sigfredo Garcia.

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Went to trial on November or in November of twenty sixteen,

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and he was convicted and he was sentenced to life

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in prison. Goodbye, Sigfredo. But this was far from over.

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There were so many unanswered questions. Well, when Luis Rivera

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was arrested, that dude was a real gangster. And I

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don't want to say that as if I'm kudoing him,

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because I'm not. But I'm gonna just tell you something.

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He strikes me more as an old school type of

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gangster because when they arrested him and they asked him

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what he did, he admitted it. He admitted it, he said, yup,

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that's me. They showed him a picture, yup, that's me,

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kind of like you got me. And while this doesn't

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mean much, okay, I know that he was there. I

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know that he was a part of this murder. Hear

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me out, he was not a little bitch. When he

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was faced with the evidence, Sigfredo lied his ass off

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and said he had nothing to do with it. Louis

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came clean just like that. He was a criminal who

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fessed up when he was faced with the evidence. And

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because he was just so open with it and gave

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it up, the police were willing to offer him a deal.

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The police said, you conplead guilty to say degree murder

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if you will be willing to testify state's evidenced evidence

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against any other participants in this scheme as we're unraveling this,

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and if you do that, you'll only get nineteen years.

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So it's the lesser of two evils, okay, to get

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the masterminds behind bars. And Luis was like, yep, helps

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me out. I'll take the deal.

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Now.

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By the way, I need you to go down an

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add rabbit hole with me, like for two seconds.

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I got to warn you something.

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If you are planning on naming your child Luis Rivera,

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I want to caution you to not do that because

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during my research for you, I looked up Luis Rivera

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and I wanted to see some of his incarceration information.

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Would you believe that in the state of Florida there

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are thirteen incarcerated Luis Rivera's.

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In prison.

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What the hell I was going through the list, So listen,

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this is what a Luis Rivera does in Florida. If

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you want to know that, sexual battery and kidnapping. The

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other one had cocaine and drug trafficking. The next one

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had aggravated assault and attempted second degree murder with grand

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theft auto. The next one's sexual battery and molestation of

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a juvenile under twelve. The next one's second degree murder

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and grand theft auto. The next one cocaine trafficking. The

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next one was a Colombian.

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Drug guy.

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The next one was a cocaine sale distribution person. The

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next one was a grand theft auto with strangulation, kidnapping

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and terrorizing, aggravated child abuse, a felon with a gun,

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grand theft auto, sexual battery, and molesta.

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It goes on and on and on.

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I would like to strongly caution you to not name

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your child, but that is just a little bit of

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a little bit of information for you. If you're in

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the in the works of naming a child. All right,

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So they put Louis behind bars, but he's going to

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turn state's evidence.

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Wonderful.

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Now do you remember Jeff was that ex boyfriend of Wendy. Well,

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by this time he's still talking to police, and he

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gave even more detail behind why he believed that Wendy's

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family may have been involved in Dan's murder, and based

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on what I've just told you, it kind of seems

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like Jeff might be on the right track. He explained

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that when Wendy got a divorce, or the divorce proceedings began,

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she got a divorce present from her brother Charlie, which

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was a TV. Now, if you remember, Wendy had mentioned

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this to the police during one of her initial interrogations,

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but she said it was a joke.

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He made this.

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Now off color joke saying I was going to hire

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a hit man, but the TV was cheaper.

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Ha ha ha. It was just a joke.

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He didn't mean anything by it. He had heard Charlie

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say that joke before. He kind of said that joke

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a couple of times about the hitman. But during dinner

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one night, in a different occasion, Wendy told him in

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complete confidence because she was very upset that her brother

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Charlie had looked into hiring a hitman for real the

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summer before Dan had actually been killed, and while Wendy

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was making light of her brother's TV purchase as a

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gift because it was cheaper than a hitman, He's like,

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this was a serious conversation. This wasn't a joking matter.

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Whenever it was said to me, it was chilling. For

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his words, he said, it kind of upset my stomach

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when she said it. She said in specifics that the

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cost was going to either be fifteen thousand or fifty thousand.

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He couldn't quite remember now because it had been two

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years since that conversation, but he said she gave even

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the number. It was either fifteen or fifty thousand dollars.

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But in the moment that the conversation was actually being had,

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like in real time, he thought, surely she's not serious

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about this. But it didn't set right with him that

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someone would ever joke about that. I remember Dan was

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fine when all of this happened, but now Jeff was

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just very alarmed. He even asked for police protection. Whenever

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he was given this information. He was like, I'm afraid

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someone's gonna come kill me, Dan's dead, and then this

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was said to me, and Jeff was adamant. He looked

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police in the eyes and he said, you have got

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to understand something about Wendy. She is superficially charming and

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she is a deeply deceitful person, not to mention extremely intelligent,

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which is a very scary combination.

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So, taking all of this into account.

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Police decided that they were going to set up a

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sting operation and have an agent pose as the brother

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of convicted Luis Rivera. And this was a brilliant move

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on my opinion, because Luis was now into the federal

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penitentiary serving time on another charge that he got, so

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he couldn't be easily contacted.

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By these people.

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Obviously, it would look strange if they tried to contact

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him because they didn't know him, but he was kind

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of out of the loop, and so this would be

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kind of hard to question.

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Okay.

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So one day, while Wendy's mother, Donna, is out and about,

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this undercover agent approached her on a sidewalk wearing a

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hidden body camera and he handed her a letter. He

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stepped right in front of her and he handed her

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a letter, and that letter demanded money for the services

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rendered because he said that his brother was Louis. His

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brother was going through some hard times and everyone else

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seems to be being taken care of financially, but my

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brother isn't.

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He didn't directly threaten her.

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At any time, but he did make it clear that

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this wasn't a joke and that time was ticking. So

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Donna standing there wearing these knee length black shorts and

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she's got on this colorful green and black and white top,

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her hairs twisted up in a little clip on the back.

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Of her head.

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Very guardedly. As the man says this to her, whispered,

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I don't know what you're talking about. But it was

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just like that, I don't know what you're talking about.

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And the agent said, well, then just read this letter

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and it'll explain further. And then he turned around and

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he walked off. Now all of this was filmed undercover

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while this was happening, And I want you to ask

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yourself something. If you were just out shopping one day,

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walking down the street, and a man walked up to

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you and said, you didn't take care of my brother.

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Here's a letter. Read it and you'll know exactly what

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to do.

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Number one. I don't think i'd be whispering. I don't

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know what you're talking about. I would be like, who

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are you?

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Now, I know my personality is a little bit more forward,

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but I would still be like, wait, what, who's your brother?

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What are you talking about? Who are you?

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But even after all of that, I want you to

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ask yourself, someone with zero knowledge of a murder plot.

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What.

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Would they do at that moment that the guy walked off?

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Because what I found very interesting while I watched all

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the video of this undercover sting operation was that when

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the agent walked away from her, she never opened the letter.

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She simply folded it in half and she put it

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in her black crossbody purse and she kept walking like

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nothing happened.

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Curiosity would have killed me, like who are you?

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What is this freakin' letter? I would have opened it

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up immediately, but not Donna. She just puts it in

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her purse and she keeps moving. The hope in them

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doing this sting, which, by the way, they would call

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it the bump. So if I say the bump from

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here on out, I'm talking about the sting operation. Their

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hope was that this bump would put some pressure on

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these people and it would rattle some nerves just enough

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that maybe, just maybe they would start talking. Now, inside

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that envelope was a news article, It was a picture

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of Dan, it was a news article about specifically about

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Dan's murder. It had a phone number on it, and

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there was a very specific demand for five grand. There

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was no question that this letter was demanding money for

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a hit for hire. So the police then just sat

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back and they waited, Let's see what they do. But

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they didn't have to wait long because almost immediately, Donna

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calls Charlie, her son. So ask yourself, again, a reasonable

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person who has nothing to do with this, who would

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you call if someone was trying to extort five grand

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out of you for a murder? Because the first person

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I'm calling is gonna be my husband, my spouse. If

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I have no clue what's going on, I'm calling my

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husband to say what the hell, not my child.

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I'm not calling my son.

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But she did, and after that the text messages began flying.

472
00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.559
There were tons of messages between Charlie and Donna and

473
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:05.240
Catherine about what had just happened. Now, if this threat

474
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:10.279
letter was for Donna and her family only, why would

475
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.160
Catherine be involved in any of the text messages. Does

476
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.240
that make any sense to you, because it doesn't to me.

477
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:22.359
Obviously Catherine was involved in some way. So police put

478
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.119
a tale on Charlie and Catherine, and at some point

479
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.480
they followed them when they went and they met up

480
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:32.480
for dinner. Another agent was there and went in on

481
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.039
secret and sat at a table next to them, and

482
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:41.000
he recorded their entire conversation at a nearby table, which

483
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:47.039
was beyond damning. They openly discussed whether the letter that

484
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.039
his mother had received was real or not and if

485
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.960
they should worry about it, which Charlie insists, it must

486
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.200
be someone just trying to test us to see what

487
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.000
we're gonna do. And even if they're trying to test us,

488
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:06.200
there isn't enough evidence linking us to Dan's murder. So police,

489
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.519
just hearing this knew now that there were at least

490
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.960
three players in this murder for hire, aside from the

491
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:18.240
two people already arrested for actually killing him. Charlie, Catherine,

492
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.559
and Mama Donna have something to do with this. They

493
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.839
just can tell now by everything that they've gathered so far.

494
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:28.440
And like I told you, Catherine's payments immediately stopped right

495
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:33.519
after the bump, that's not coincidence, so wanting to stoke

496
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:38.079
the fire more and kind of get them nervous. A

497
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:43.240
while later, the undercover agent makes a call to Adelson

498
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:47.839
in institute and they want to speak to Donna. Now

499
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.039
this is some days after that letter had been given,

500
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.680
but Donna wasn't there at the office whenever this agent called.

501
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.000
So he advised the woman who answers the phone to

502
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.440
tell Donna, hey, I need you to call me back.

503
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:01.559
And when she's at asking you what is this in

504
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.039
reference to, he says, tell her it's about that paperwork

505
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.119
I gave her. She'll know what I'm talking about. And

506
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.839
if you remember, the phone lines are already tapped by

507
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:13.160
this point, so everything from here on out is basically recorded.

508
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:13.559
Now.

509
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.799
Side note about wire taps, because I know some people

510
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.880
might have some questions. Wire taps cannot listen to any

511
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:21.200
and all calls.

512
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:22.759
That's not how this works in real life.

513
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:26.680
They can only listen to ones that go to or

514
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:31.880
come from relevant people to the investigation. They're required the

515
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:35.400
police are required by law to do what's called minimize

516
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.799
what they listen to, and they can only weigh in

517
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.759
on relative conversations that have to do with what they

518
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.079
are investigating. They are allowed to spot check if there

519
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.480
are topics that change and they want to say, Okay,

520
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:51.839
are they now talking about this murder for hire or not?

521
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.200
But no unrelated conversations to this investigation are to be

522
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.039
recorded or kept.

523
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.400
So judges, by the.

524
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:04.599
Way, have to authorize any wire taps, and usually there's

525
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.559
a state attorney that is in some type of partnership

526
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.079
with law enforcement to help oversee appropriate recordings. This is

527
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:13.720
this is way deeper than just oh yeah, free you know,

528
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.640
freelance to just go record whatever you want to. So

529
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:21.960
Donna calls Charlie and that call is tapped and it's

530
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:24.119
really really hard to hear. I wanted, I so wanted

531
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:26.920
to be able to play all these these recordings, but

532
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.440
the reality is, y'all, they're just very very very hard

533
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.119
to hear and very hard to understand without a transcript

534
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:32.640
in front of you.

535
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:34.759
So I'm not gonna do that. You would hate it anyway.

536
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.640
I'm just gonna summarize for you what happened. But basically,

537
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.680
she's telling Charlie that she's very concerned about who is

538
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.039
calling for her, and she's like, I wonder if this

539
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:45.599
person calling for me is the same person that gave

540
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.400
me the letter, and Charlie says to her, I'll take

541
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.759
care of it, and he immediately hangs up, and then

542
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:59.440
he immediately calls Katherine, and in that recording, Catherine goes ballistic. Okay,

543
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.039
remember some and some time has gone by at this point,

544
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.920
and she's cussing and carrying on. Every third word is

545
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.839
a f bomb, and she's just beyond aggravating. You can

546
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.319
tell from the get go she's pissed off and she's

547
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.119
mad because it seems that she's already tried to call

548
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.920
that number from the letter multiple times and it's not

549
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.680
a working number. She's not able to get anybody. So

550
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.480
she gets beyond angry at this point. She says, I've

551
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.200
called it over and over again. It doesn't fucking work,

552
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.799
and obviously someone's just trying to mess with this. Charlie,

553
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.039
I'm tired of calling this number. I'm tired of you

554
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.480
calling me and asking me to call the frickin' number.

555
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.160
You call the number if you want to. I'm over

556
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.920
it at this point. So Charlie, after they go back

557
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:37.599
and forth, says.

558
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:38.000
All right, whatever.

559
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.319
So Charlie hangs up and he calls the number himself

560
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.720
after that full fledged argument with Kate, and of course,

561
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.200
you know, being someone not involved in all, he stars

562
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.000
sixty seven is number, so it would block his phone

563
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.039
number from the person that he was calling. But to

564
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.559
his surprise, someone answers the phone, now, you and I

565
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.039
know that this is an undercover A He does not,

566
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.119
So the agent is saying, yeah, I did call you

567
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.839
didn't take care of my brother. He identifies as himself

568
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:10.920
I think as Sammy, which I bet you that's.

569
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:12.359
A nod to the mob. You know Sammy.

570
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.720
This heel anyway, He says, yeah, this is Sammy, and

571
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.240
y'all hadn't taken care of my brother. My brother's in prison,

572
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.359
and y'all better handle it and pay up. Y'all owe

573
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.599
some money to my brother. So he hangs up and

574
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:24.039
he's like.

575
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.319
Uh, let me let me call you back. Let me

576
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:26.799
call you back.

577
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.799
When he hangs up, Charlie calls Kate back again. This

578
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.319
is all tapped and he is shooketh to put it minimal,

579
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.160
He's like, brother, okay, this is real, this is real.

580
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.880
He demanded that we give some money, and he says

581
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.839
that you know, I have to take care of his brother.

582
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.119
And he says, this is gonna be a huge problem,

583
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.359
huge problem. And this conversation is very very long. Gonna

584
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.279
summarize it because it's just them going back and forth,

585
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.839
back and forth, but it finally results in this. He says, Look,

586
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:54.960
this is gonna be a big problem for all of us.

587
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:57.319
You mess with they mess with you. They're messing with me,

588
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:58.960
they mess with me, they're messing with you. You need to

589
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.319
understand that. And it's you can't get somebody to take

590
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:06.319
care of this, sammy guy, then I'll find someone who can. So,

591
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.039
as you can imagine, by now, police are like, we

592
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.160
got enough to go arrest Katherine mcmahnwall for conspiracy and murder,

593
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:16.839
but or conspiracy to commit murder, but.

594
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:18.440
No one else.

595
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.359
At this moment, they really felt like they had enough

596
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.480
one because there was still just a lot of work

597
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.319
to do and they needed way more if they were going.

598
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.960
To have a six. Arresting somebody is not enough, y'all.

599
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.720
You've got to have enough to have a successful prosecution

600
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:31.680
or else all of this was for nothing.

601
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:33.920
They've got to have everything that they need.

602
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:39.119
So they arrest Kate and they offer her and I

603
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.240
want you to hear me say this, they offer Katherine

604
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:48.400
mcmahonwall total immunity. Total immunity. That means you will walk

605
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:54.480
out of this building today. You are totally immunity, immunity

606
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.680
if you will agree to testify against the atolsins and

607
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:07.720
incredibly stupidly moronically in any other word, I guess that

608
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:12.039
ends in lee right now. She declines the offer of

609
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:13.880
total immunity.

610
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:15.800
And I want to tell you something.

611
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.719
This is a mother of young children, Sigfredo's young children,

612
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.079
by the way, she is a mother of young children,

613
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.079
and she would rather roll the dice in court against

614
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.639
a murder charge than raise her kids.

615
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:33.000
Are you serious?

616
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.599
I would have said, yep, so fast your head would

617
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.360
have spun and I would have been tucking my babies

618
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.039
in that night, Bye bye to everybody.

619
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.440
I'd be looking out for number one. She didn't.

620
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:47.960
That's insane, That is absolutely insane, considering the evidence that

621
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:51.199
was against her was stacked clearly higher than her IQ.

622
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.519
But you do you girl, and she said no.

623
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.679
So conviction now though for against her was going to

624
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.480
be made even easier by the fact that keeping him word,

625
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:05.360
Luis said he would testify, and he did. He testified

626
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.320
against Catherine when she was arrested and put on trial

627
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:12.239
for Dan's murder, and she was convicted and sentenced to

628
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:18.760
life in prison plus two thirty year additional sentences when

629
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:24.599
she could have had total immunity. So that all is

630
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.800
going down. Okay, this has taken more time. Police now decided, Look,

631
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.559
we've now got even more We've got to jump into

632
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:35.800
their communications. Let's look at their email communications, specifically between

633
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:40.320
the Adelman family and you know, any like the Adelman

634
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.280
family and other Adelman family members. And to say it

635
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.039
was eye opening is an absolute understatement. And it would

636
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.840
take me days if I were to go over all

637
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.400
of these emails independently. So I'm going to give you

638
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.719
the gist of some of the conversations because they were

639
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:59.719
pretty telling. Donna, the mother, Donna emailed Wendy a lot,

640
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.159
a whole lot, and she was constantly sending pages and

641
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.719
pages and pages to Wendy about how to handle Dan,

642
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.960
talking about the divorce. And she tells her to quote,

643
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.079
put on the performance of a lifetime, Wendy, because she

644
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.119
knows she can act. She says, I've seen you do

645
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.719
it before. I know you can put on a stellar act,

646
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.760
which maybe kind of reference back what Jeff had said

647
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.760
that she is superficially you know kind, and it's all

648
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:36.079
it's all for show. Her point and majority of her

649
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.519
emails was that she wanted Wendy to piss off Dan.

650
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:41.639
She kept telling Wendy, we got to up the game.

651
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.440
You gotta up your game. Remember when I told you previously.

652
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:48.199
She even suggested changing the children's religion because Dan was

653
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.800
such a devout Jew. She went't even further, not only

654
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.239
saying let's change the religion to piss him off.

655
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:55.159
She says, let's make him.

656
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.519
Let's enroll them in Catholic classes. She says, you don't

657
00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:59.199
even have to send them to class, Wendy, let's just

658
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.880
enroll them in it. And it's just we're just gonna

659
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:03.519
piss Dan off so bad he's not gonna know what

660
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:08.280
to do with himself. She pushes so hard on making

661
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.960
Dan mad. And and trust me when I tell you,

662
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.679
there are tons more things that she suggested that are

663
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.880
just downright ass holy.

664
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:18.559
In if that's a word.

665
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:25.000
This is evil, mean spirited, nasty suggestions of things to

666
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.239
do with this man's children just to just to get

667
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.400
at him. And her words to Wendy were that she

668
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:36.440
needed to act quote in complete defiance against Dan in

669
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:42.440
every way possible. But her reasoning for all of this

670
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:44.000
that she would go through and I know I didn't

671
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.199
list all of it, but trust there's a lot. Her

672
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:52.239
reasoning was she wanted to drive Dan so crazy that

673
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:56.760
the Adelson family would ultimately then offer him one million

674
00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:02.000
dollars to let the kids move to my and she

675
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:04.400
goes so far as to say, me and Dad will

676
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.800
pay a third to the million, Charlie will pay a

677
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:08.960
third of the million, and then you can pay the

678
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.280
other third of the bribe million because we're a team

679
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:16.480
and we'll handle this together. But that wouldn't be necessary.

680
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.880
Now those are my words on hers. That's not necessary

681
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:23.840
now because they had won. Dan was dead, Wendy moved home,

682
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.639
the kids were there, so they didn't have to offer

683
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:32.639
the bribe because he died. So now that three people

684
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.079
had been legally held accountable for Dan's murder, those three

685
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:41.000
people had time to sit and ponder what all had

686
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:46.920
taken place. Louise, Sigfredo, and Catherine, and two of them

687
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.480
decided that they were not gonna take all of the

688
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:55.400
blame for this while others were walking free. Those two

689
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.599
were Louise and Catherine. Both of them now had a

690
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:03.719
story to tell. Catherine wanted to talk. Now was too late,

691
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:08.719
but she wanted to and whenever they both told their story,

692
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:13.800
they matched. These are two independent people from two separate

693
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.840
trials that have no contact with one another, and their

694
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.159
stories lined up perfectly. So now what I'm gonna do

695
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.960
is shift gears and I'm going to tell you the

696
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:29.079
story from what all they said happened, as well as

697
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:33.639
I've combined with evidence that was gathered by police to

698
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.239
put this all in chronological order for you. It's going

699
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.480
to be in perfect order. And it all started back

700
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:45.480
in twenty thirteen. So basically, Charlie's mom and dad and

701
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:50.519
brother were completely and totally stressed out about Wendy's ex husband,

702
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.880
and so their whole argument was that he's messing with you,

703
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.800
he's messing with the custody of the kids, and we

704
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:58.480
want you to be here with us and not be

705
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:04.000
dealing with him. And the problem was that Wendy wanted

706
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.639
to move back home to her parents, and the judge said, no,

707
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.440
you're not going to relocate the kids four hundred miles away.

708
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.159
Mom Donna was the main person who wanted to do

709
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.039
something about all of this and get Wendy home. She

710
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:21.159
was constantly talking to Charlie about Wendy's divorce via text

711
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.760
like a lot, a lot, a lot, like almost obsessive,

712
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.119
lots of anger too, about money and how they were

713
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.400
wanting to run up the attorney bills on Danny so

714
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.800
that he would go broke. And Donna even got mad

715
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:34.760
at one point, which I thought this was crazy, and

716
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.199
she got so pissed off. She was messaging everybody in

717
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:41.480
the family because she could not believe that Dan after

718
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:45.039
the kid's soccer game one day, he wanted to play

719
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.519
with his kids, he wanted extra time to play with

720
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:51.280
his kids.

721
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:53.440
How could he do that?

722
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.119
That was rude because Wendy was ready to leave, Like

723
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.199
every little thing that this man did was somehow some

724
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.159
sort of attack on Wendy, when all I'm saying over

725
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.679
here is a dad who loved his boys and he

726
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:07.480
was wanting to be in their lives. And in a

727
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.400
world where we live, where we have a lot of

728
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.400
fatherless children, it's unconscionable that a mother in law would

729
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.760
do anything she could to keep a dad from his kids,

730
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.480
especially when it's one who wanted to take care of them.

731
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.039
That's ridiculous.

732
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:25.480
So the plan all started in October of twenty thirteen,

733
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.400
but it wasn't completed until July of twenty fourteen. So

734
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.280
that Adelson's as well as Katherine mcbanwa, took a trip

735
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.639
to South Beach where they were all relaxed and they

736
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:39.719
were having fun out on the beach. And by the way,

737
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.199
I have a photo of the women on the beach,

738
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:47.159
including Wendy and mcbanwa, where they were laying on the

739
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:49.559
beach and drinking and they take a picture together which

740
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.400
solidified this evidence and was proof that it was true

741
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.880
what Catherine said when this started. And I'll put that

742
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:58.519
on Patreon for you so you can check it out.

743
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:03.920
But that trip is when everything really got started. Charlie

744
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.360
mentioned the idea to Kate a little while later on

745
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.440
Halloween at a party. He asked her, do you know

746
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.960
anybody who could harm someone? And she said, yes, I do. Now,

747
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.960
she didn't give Charlie a name, but she certainly had

748
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.320
someone in mind, and it was her baby daddy.

749
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:22.239
Thug Sigfredo.

750
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.480
And by the way, now I'm going to add this

751
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.880
in there for you, Wendy was set to buy a

752
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:35.760
house in Tallahassee that next day after they had that conversation.

753
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.400
But when Catherine told Charlie yes on the Halloween party

754
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:47.440
amazingly like magic, the very next day, Wendy changed her

755
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:51.519
mind and backed out of buying the house in Tallahassee.

756
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.840
So the Adelman's eventually got together and they came up

757
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.119
with an outline of what would happen, and the police

758
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.239
knew that this had to be the case due to

759
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.639
some text conversations that they read where Donna at one

760
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.119
point was traveling. She was driving down the interstate on

761
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:13.079
a trip, and she asked Charlie to call her back

762
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.360
in just a minute and they will talk over the phone,

763
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.480
and then she says, delete this text message. I will

764
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.039
talk to you when I'm alone at the rest stop.

765
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.639
And then after she says the delete this message, she

766
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.480
then comes back and ads, I can talk quietly about

767
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:33.000
dad's birthday gift. But then she never asked him to

768
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:36.679
delete that part of the follow up message, So it's

769
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:38.320
almost like they're trying to make it seem like she's

770
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.400
trying to keep the dad from finding out about a

771
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:46.480
birthday present. But if you're claiming to be secretive and

772
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.840
you want to talk to the person about a birthday gift,

773
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.400
and you say delete this, but then you add it's

774
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.360
about dad's birthday gift. But then you don't say delete

775
00:43:54.480 --> 00:44:00.639
that one. Those very words about dad's birthday gifts prize

776
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:03.039
would give it away, So you make that make sense

777
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:05.239
in your mind, because it doesn't make sense in mind.

778
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.920
Then when she got there, she called Charlie from a

779
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:12.079
bathroom stall. Later on, and I need to mention that

780
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:19.039
Wendy sent a text to Dan during an Adelman get

781
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:24.400
together shortly after that. So Kate never told Charlie who

782
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.239
the hit man would be. She just would always refer

783
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:29.559
to him as my friend. And her goal here was

784
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.920
basically to wall the two men off from each other

785
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:36.000
because of her relationship to both of them, because see,

786
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.840
she was dating Charlie and she had kids with Sigfredo,

787
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:43.159
so she had to deal with both of them. And

788
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:49.079
by the way, Sigfredo hated Charlie like hated him. And

789
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.840
there was even an incident during the time that the

790
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.639
plot seemed to be all being set up where Sigfredo

791
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:56.880
had picked up the kids from Kate and took them

792
00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.159
right down the street to eat some pizza and while

793
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.679
they were eating pizza at this little restaurant thing on

794
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:02.159
the corner.

795
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:04.559
He saw Charlie drive by.

796
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.519
To Kate's with some jet skis on the back like

797
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.320
he was going to pick her up, and it pissed

798
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:10.559
Sigfredo off to no end.

799
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:11.960
I'm sure it's because Charlie had money.

800
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:13.719
And then he's got you know, Sigfredo's got the kids,

801
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.639
and he can't you know, his baby mama's going off

802
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:17.280
with another dude.

803
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:19.679
She lived on that same road.

804
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:24.960
Where the truck had passed, And so Sigfredo jumped on

805
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.159
the phone and tried to call Charlie, but Charlie wouldn't

806
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.000
answer the phone, and so he left him an angry voicemail,

807
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:34.280
name calling and all this kind of stuff. Well whenever,

808
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:36.239
Charlie didn't answer the phone, and it pissed him off

809
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.599
so bad. He then snatched up his kids, threw him

810
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.199
in his car, and tore off behind Charlie trying to

811
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:44.840
catch up with him, but Kate had already gotten in

812
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:48.760
the car by that point, and so Sigfredo skirt his

813
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:53.440
truck in front of Charlie's truck. He jumps out and

814
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:56.920
he's screaming and hollering and going buck through the window

815
00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:59.599
of the truck. Now, it never got physical, but it

816
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:03.960
was just very clear that Sigfredo hated Charlie and he

817
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:05.960
mouthed off and then Charlie kind of just tried to

818
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:06.800
go around him.

819
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:07.440
And he left.

820
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.679
And we know that that's true what Kate said happened

821
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.079
because Charlie texted Kate the very next day, in the

822
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.239
middle of another conversation they were having, and he said,

823
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.360
I'm sorry, this is a direct quote. I'm sorry, but

824
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.159
he's a fucking pussy for leaving messages.

825
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:20.719
But whatever.

826
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.079
So we know that that really did happen because the

827
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.559
text proved it. Now, what's almost comical, if it weren't

828
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.760
just an outright tragedy, is that the plot for murder

829
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.599
was already in play. It was just at that point

830
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.840
neither men knew that the other one was involved.

831
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.480
So they're sitting here fighting in the road verbally and

832
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.760
they don't know that they're working together towards a murder.

833
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:48.440
So Kate never told uh Sigfredo that the hit was

834
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:52.039
for Charlie because she knew Sigfredo wouldn't do it because

835
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.400
of how much he hated him. But after a while,

836
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:56.599
the two men had an inkling that it was the

837
00:46:56.639 --> 00:47:00.000
other one. They just never directly said it, but Kate said,

838
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.320
I'm pretty sure that they figured it out.

839
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.199
And the reason that she knows that they figured it.

840
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.639
Out is because money and lots of money was a

841
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.599
very huge motivator, and Charlie had money.

842
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:13.320
Who else was gonna have money.

843
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.800
Charlie was making at that time about three million dollars

844
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:20.000
a year, and so was his family, being very wealthy

845
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.400
and making good money. At one point, by the way,

846
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.840
their finances showed that as a family that they had

847
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.079
grossed over eight million dollars as well as all of

848
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.360
their assets and god knows how much cash, which I'm

849
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.519
gonna get to later on. So Sigfredo talks to his

850
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.679
friend Luise and says, hey, you want to make some money,

851
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:40.559
and Luis is like, hell yeah, bro let's go make

852
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:43.519
some money. So they talk it over and they decide

853
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.159
to go together for the murder. But they had to

854
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.880
get from Tallahassee to Miami. Both of these guys are broke.

855
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.960
They're two broke dope dealers and Burglary, you know, like

856
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:55.840
they don't have any money and they don't have any

857
00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:00.480
reliable transportation to take them that far. So Kate tells Charlie,

858
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.159
my friends need some money if you're gonna get them

859
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:03.840
down there to do it.

860
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.000
And Charlie gave Kate money.

861
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.960
It was a couple hundred dollars, and then Kate gave

862
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.039
that money to Sigfredo for traveling expenses. And I'm gonna

863
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:14.920
go ahead and tell you ahead of time. There's gonna

864
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:18.639
be two trips that are made to Dan's house. The

865
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:23.079
first trip to Tallahassee was June second of twenty fifteen.

866
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.920
And we have that rental contract for that Nissan Ultima,

867
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:33.519
that silver that Sigfredo rented. Now, why do I feel

868
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.639
it's important to tell you that the make and model

869
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:41.000
of this car, that it was a silver Nissan Ultima.

870
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:43.320
It's because I find it very curious and I think

871
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.000
you will too.

872
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:44.760
Why.

873
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.159
Well, this is going to go back to Jeff Lacasse,

874
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:51.320
Wendy's ex boyfriend. Remember how I told you they dated

875
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.320
just a short time and he didn't think that she

876
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:57.159
was really as invested in the relationship as he was.

877
00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.639
And it was only four months or so of dating.

878
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.000
You remember, it was kind of a short dating period.

879
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:07.000
Wendy also told police that she and Jeff broke up

880
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:08.760
after a fight on a trip that they went to.

881
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:12.320
And remember at the very beginning, she was like, oh

882
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:13.679
my god, I hope I didn't drive him to do

883
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:17.880
it or something because of the breakup. Well, that trip

884
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.280
in that fight was real that Wendy claimed. Jeff validated

885
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.960
that really did happen. The reason they were fighting was

886
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.000
because Jeff went through Wendy's phone and he found that

887
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.519
she was on this dating website called ok Cupid, and

888
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.559
she was talking to other men while she was dating Jeff,

889
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.920
and he was like, dude, you're a cheater. I don't

890
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.800
want anything to do with you. And this, by the way,

891
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.480
was proven by her cell phone records. So his frustrations

892
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.679
and his beliefs that he was being led on were

893
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.519
absolutely legitimate and they were verified. Here's the kicker to

894
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.760
me a short dating time frame. She brings up his

895
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:58.400
name as a possible suspect of her ex husband's murder,

896
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:00.920
hopes that she didn't to do it.

897
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:02.280
And what if I.

898
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:09.840
Told you that Jeff drove a silver Nissan hmm, coincidence

899
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:10.880
during the car renal?

900
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:12.000
I think not.

901
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:18.400
Here's a little flashback insight too. After their breakup, they

902
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:21.599
went their separate ways. Like they she didn't talk to him.

903
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:23.880
He was like, Okay, I guess we're done. But then

904
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.840
she all of a sudden wanted to be back with

905
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.559
him and meet up with him, said let's meet at yoga,

906
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.679
and it was just weird. He got this weird vibe

907
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:34.519
about you didn't want anything to do with me for

908
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.079
over a week, and now all of a sudden, you

909
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:40.920
want to meet up and talk. Well, when she realized

910
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:43.719
that he was going out of town for a trip,

911
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:48.000
she asked him, Oh, well where are you going and

912
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:50.840
when are you leaving, and what route are you taking?

913
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.199
How are you gonna get there? And so he was like,

914
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.559
this is so freaking bizarre, the amount of interest that

915
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.400
someone just days ago, who didn't want to be with

916
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.440
me and was very rude to me, Now all of

917
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.960
a sudden, you're wanting You're wanting to know what I

918
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.119
you know, when I'm going and where I'm going on

919
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.239
the route I'm taking. He drove a two thousand and

920
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:14.960
four Nissan CenTra that was silver, and his route he

921
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:16.719
was like, Oh, well I'm gonna go down this highway.

922
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:18.280
I'll probably jump over there. So I can go to

923
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.760
the airport. Well, that route that he told her traveled

924
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:28.199
right past Dan's house, like, not specifically his road, but geographically,

925
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:34.320
if you're following what I'm saying here, So that to

926
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:36.800
me is not a coincidence. You didn't want anything to

927
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.559
do with him. Now all of a sudden you're calling

928
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.480
him back. And now we've got two people that are

929
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:44.400
presumptively hired to murder your ex husband or coming into

930
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:48.199
town driving the same color car, and you're wanting to

931
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:50.880
know which way you're driving out for your trip. I mean,

932
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:57.639
come on, man, last minute, though, unbeknownst to Wendy, Jeff

933
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.639
decided that he was going to leave a day early

934
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.440
for his sh trip to Tennessee, and he never updated

935
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.039
Wendy about this because now they weren't talking again. Had

936
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:10.480
that small change not been made, I'm telling you, Jeff

937
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:12.119
would have been in a world if you have some

938
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:14.920
explaining to do, don't you think? But he left a

939
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:18.400
day early, she just didn't know it. In a kmart

940
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:22.559
trip when he was in Tennessee proved that he was

941
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:28.800
not there now. Mind blowingly, he also went through and

942
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.239
passed through that same localized area that he was supposed

943
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:34.000
to go the first time, and he didn't. He passed

944
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.679
through that same localized area of Dan's home again on

945
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:43.280
June sixth. That's the original. I mean, it lines up,

946
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.360
it just lines up too well that it kind of

947
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:48.199
looks like he might have been being set up to

948
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.239
take the fall for this. Okay, but this is where

949
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:55.480
God has the biggest sick sense of humor, and you

950
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.239
can't think of it as any other way, because within

951
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.920
an hour of six Ffredo renting that silver car to

952
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.920
look that looked like Dan's, within an hour of him

953
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.039
running that car and pulling out, he.

954
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:07.920
Got a ticket.

955
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:10.679
He got pulled over by police and he got a ticket,

956
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.239
and he's like, shit, now, this record's gonna prove that

957
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.039
I'm the one that was in the silver Deuis sign.

958
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.039
And so, considering that happened, he had to go back

959
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:20.440
and he changed out his vehicle and he got a

960
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.159
blue Hyundai and that's what he drove on his first

961
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:26.280
trip out there. I think that's kind of funny, I do.

962
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.880
I think that's great. Now. Katie had gone to Charlie's

963
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.880
before the men left out, and Charlie gave her a

964
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:36.159
Manila envelope and he said, don't open it, don't look

965
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:37.840
out it, look at it, just you need to give

966
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.840
it to your friend. And whenever he handed her that envelope,

967
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.239
she said that he wore gloves while handling it. He

968
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.760
told her, I printed it somewhere other than my office,

969
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:48.199
and he said, I didn't lick the seal, so there's

970
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:51.079
no DNA on this. She took that, she put it

971
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:54.920
in her child's diaper bag, and then she left and

972
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.480
went and gave it to Sigfredo. What was inside of

973
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.639
the envelope, she now knows it was a foo of Dan.

974
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:04.719
It was his name, and it was his physical address.

975
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.480
Charlie is the one that gave that information to the shooters.

976
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:13.760
So they head out to Tallahassee and then while they're

977
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.760
on their way, that's when Luis actually found out that

978
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:19.199
this was going to be a murder, because they originally

979
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:20.480
told him that it was just going to be this

980
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:22.920
big robbery of somebody, but he found out that it

981
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.079
was going to be a murder. They got into town,

982
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:27.320
it took them seven hours to get there, and they

983
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.400
checked into a hotel, which again is able to be verified.

984
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.719
And the next day was June fifth, well, Sigfredo's cell

985
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.800
phone showed that it was right there, bouncing off of towers,

986
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:41.440
right next to Dan's house, and they kind of believed

987
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:44.280
it was in a nearby park area where they could

988
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:47.159
see down the street. And so Sigfredo even said, we

989
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.239
did surveillance of Dan all day that day. We just

990
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:54.920
watched him, which this is absolutely got to be true

991
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:58.400
because the cell phone records show that location is correct.

992
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.679
But also that rental that they had gotten it had

993
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:04.039
GPS hidden in it. That was so that they could

994
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.920
track the car in case it got stolen or something,

995
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.239
and the GPS also lined up with where the cell

996
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.760
phone records were. So as this was going on, the

997
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:17.440
cell phone records of Kate, Charlie, Wendy, and Donna are

998
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:22.159
super interesting. While these guys are on this trip, Charlie

999
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:27.480
called Katherine more than ten times during that Catherine then

1000
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:32.960
called Sigfredo after Charlie would call her, then Donna would

1001
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:37.039
call Charlie. Then Wendy would call Donna a few times,

1002
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.599
and she called her dad, but she only called her

1003
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:42.679
parents' landline, which I'll get to in a minute, and

1004
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.760
then Wendy would call Charlie. So if you're kind of

1005
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:48.119
seeing a trend here. The adel Sins would talk to

1006
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:51.800
the adel Sins, only Charlie would talk to Catherine, and

1007
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.960
then only Catherine would talk to Sigfredo or Luis. It's

1008
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.320
like a train one after the other. But they never

1009
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.719
talk all on amongst themselves. It's just kind of straight

1010
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:05.960
down the line. So tons of calls during the exact

1011
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:10.119
time period between all of these people when they think

1012
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.280
that they're going down there to murder these people.

1013
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:14.360
This man, which is very interesting.

1014
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:17.239
Now, Louise didn't want to do a murder when he

1015
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:20.519
got there on that first trip, when he saw that

1016
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:22.559
Dan was with kids, he said, now, I'm not down

1017
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:23.760
with that. I'm not going to kill this man in

1018
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:25.920
front of his kids. And I think this might be

1019
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:31.039
one of those almost honor amongst thieves type situations. I'm

1020
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:32.960
not saying that he's a good dude. I'm not taken

1021
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.239
up for him in any way, but I think even

1022
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:38.840
gang members can appreciate that young kids don't deserve to

1023
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:39.800
see such horrors.

1024
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:41.119
Obviously, Dan should not.

1025
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:43.480
Have died either, but he did not want to kill

1026
00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.880
him in front of his kids, and Dan had custody

1027
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.599
of the kids, so that same evening of June fifth,

1028
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.679
cell towers show that the two killers head back home,

1029
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:56.800
but Dan is still alive, and it's just they never

1030
00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:58.679
killed him. And Louise said, I didn't want to do

1031
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.639
it because the kids were with it. It's all lining up

1032
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.559
with what these two are saying is happening to the police.

1033
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:09.559
The very next day, which would have been July the sixth,

1034
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:15.519
Wendy text Dan Markel, are you in Tallahassee July fourteenth

1035
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.840
through the eighteenth? I just want to know if I

1036
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:21.960
can have the kids on the sixteenth, and Dan replies, yes,

1037
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:22.480
you can.

1038
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.280
It's interesting too that those.

1039
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:30.639
Dates are exactly the dates when the murder would go down.

1040
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:36.519
She was in South Florida when she sent those text messages.

1041
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.920
And where exactly was she, you ask?

1042
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:41.960
When she sent those text messages while her cell phone

1043
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:44.559
records would show that she was in the location of

1044
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:45.519
her parents' house.

1045
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:47.039
Who'd ah thunk that.

1046
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:51.840
It was also her dad's birthday celebration, you know that

1047
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:54.639
secret gift in all that they've been talking about over

1048
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:59.039
the phone. So Charlie was there too? What are the chances, guys,

1049
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:00.719
do you think that this is going down like this?

1050
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:06.480
Katie then said that Charlie was adamant to her at

1051
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.679
that time frame, you have to get it done. You

1052
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:10.280
have to get it done. You have to get it done.

1053
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:11.679
They've got to go down and they've got to get

1054
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:14.840
it done. And now they realize, well, this is probably

1055
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.519
because Dan told Wendy he was going out of town

1056
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:19.760
on the nineteenth. He was heading to New York City,

1057
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.960
so when she said July fourteenth to eighteenth, it had

1058
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.079
to go down then or else he would be leaving.

1059
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:30.280
So July fifteenth, the next series of calls all happens

1060
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:32.960
in just about an hour, so keep that in mind.

1061
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:38.119
Charlie calls Catherine and they hang up. Charlie then calls

1062
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:41.119
his parents right after he hangs up with Catherine, and

1063
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:43.440
he and his parents talk about twenty five minutes or so,

1064
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:47.239
and then he called his dad's cell phone, which made

1065
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:49.840
police realize it must have been mom at the house

1066
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:50.519
that he talked to.

1067
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.320
And then he called and he talked to his dad.

1068
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:59.000
Catherine's cell phone then shows that she was driving Sigfredo

1069
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:02.280
when they during while this is happening, she's driving Sigfredo

1070
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:05.079
to get that second rental car, and then she turns

1071
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.280
back home after she drops him off, and she talks

1072
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:11.159
to Charlie the whole ride back home to her house.

1073
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:15.360
And that infamous Green Prius was then rented by Luis

1074
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:18.920
and Sigfredo, and Sigfredo is listed as the brother that

1075
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:20.960
was the number that was on top of the contract.

1076
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:26.000
So then more communication keeps happening. Wendy text her dad,

1077
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:31.400
Kate calls Sigfredo, Charlie then calls his dad, then Charlie again,

1078
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:35.119
then Charlie calls Kate, then Kate called Sigfredo, then Kate

1079
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:38.039
calls Charlie, and then Kate and Sigfredo go back and

1080
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:41.119
forth again. You can see it's that progression of them

1081
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:45.280
talking back and forth to one another. Interesting too, is

1082
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.320
that ninety nine point three percent of the time when

1083
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:53.679
Charlie talked to his parents the entire time before this

1084
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.159
murder plot started, he talked to them on their cell phones.

1085
00:59:57.440 --> 00:59:59.039
Years of Dad approved this.

1086
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.760
During the year leading up to the murder, and right

1087
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.960
after the murder, Charlie started to talk to his parents

1088
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:10.079
on their landline because Charlie was in a general belief

1089
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:13.119
that the landlines were more secure if his cell phones

1090
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.559
happened to be tapped. It wasn't true, of course, I

1091
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.079
mean they could tap anything, but he thought it was.

1092
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:20.760
If you notice or you may not notice this. But

1093
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:22.800
people have traditional call patterns.

1094
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:23.480
We all do.

1095
01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:25.119
I'm not saying you're gonna call it the exact time

1096
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:28.519
every day, but for example, if I'm teaching at school

1097
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:31.559
all day, I'm not calling Jim. I don't talk to

1098
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.039
Jimothy during the school day. We might text about something

1099
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.719
later on, but I don't call Jim during the school day.

1100
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:41.199
And if I did have to call Jim, or if

1101
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:42.920
I did have to call my husband, or if I

1102
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.719
did have to call a family member, it's always going

1103
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.559
to be during my lunch period. So these patterns, people

1104
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.920
have them, whether they realize it or not. And these

1105
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:57.679
call patterns did not fit their traditional patterns as they

1106
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:01.599
had in years previous. On July sixteenth, the two men

1107
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:06.119
traveled to Tallahassee for that second trip. July seventeenth, they

1108
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:09.920
did surveillance of Dan. They stalked him all day long

1109
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:12.840
and he never knew it. And this stresses me out

1110
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.079
to even think about. You think that you're safe in

1111
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.159
your home, and you think that you're safe in your

1112
01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:20.639
daily life, and even if Dan had been armed. There

1113
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:23.679
was no response time because he was ambushed. When they

1114
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.159
finally got it done, and the cell phone records show

1115
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:30.639
those killers right near Dan's house on the seventeenth, which

1116
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:34.199
is consistent with that surveillance being done. And Louise said this,

1117
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:37.559
He said, we scoped out the house. When we went

1118
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.320
to go scope out the house, at one point, he said,

1119
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:43.039
we drove past it, but we drove past a woman

1120
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.679
that was walking with her two children, and the woman

1121
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:50.400
stared at us while we drove by, and then she

1122
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.880
quickly grabbed her cell phone and she jumped on it,

1123
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:55.719
and so it kind of alarmed him. He's like, why

1124
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:57.599
is that woman looking at us? He asked Sigfredo, what's

1125
01:01:57.599 --> 01:01:59.519
her deal? Why is that woman staring at us? And

1126
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:03.119
Rado looked at him and said, that's her. That's the

1127
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:06.320
woman whose husband were gonna kill. He said that she's

1128
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.239
here to verify that the plan is remaining on schedule.

1129
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:12.360
How would Luis know that?

1130
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.440
How could he even possibly make that up from a

1131
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:20.480
prison cell. So that night, the phones again were all

1132
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:24.880
a buzz. Charlie's calling his mom's house multiple times. Catherine

1133
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.159
is then calling Luis Garcia and Sigfredo, and these calls

1134
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:30.559
go back and forth until one o'clock in the morning.

1135
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:33.280
Now we're at July eighteenth, which is the day of

1136
01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:35.480
the murder. Dan got up early and he got the

1137
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:36.159
boys ready.

1138
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:36.719
While he was.

1139
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:40.599
Doing that, he called Wendy's phone, but Wendy didn't answer,

1140
01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:43.079
so he left her a voicemail. It was really early

1141
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:44.880
in the morning, and he said, Hey, I'm gonna be

1142
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.199
at the gym around nine point fifteen. I'll be done

1143
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:49.639
probably around ten thirty. So if you want to chat

1144
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:51.400
and meet up or have a walk to discuss the

1145
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:54.760
kids when I'm done, that'd be great. Does that sound

1146
01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:57.639
like a man that's trying to destroy your life, because

1147
01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:01.320
it certainly doesn't to me. And then left his house

1148
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:03.639
on Truscott Drive. He put the boys inside of his

1149
01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:06.599
black Honda. He drove them to the Creative Preschool, where

1150
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:10.199
he unbuckled his baby boys. He brought them inside, holding

1151
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:13.239
one holding the hand of the other one. He kissed

1152
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:16.639
him goodbye, He gave him some real big good daddy

1153
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:21.639
hugs before leaving. And this entire time, two men who

1154
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:26.199
are about to end his life are watching him from

1155
01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:26.880
their rental car.

1156
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:29.800
That is just chilling.

1157
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:33.519
Dan had no idea. He just thought he was doing

1158
01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:38.840
his daddy duties. So Wendy called her mom at eight

1159
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:44.000
am and a text from Donna goes back to Wendy

1160
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.519
and she says, hey, best BUYE is coming by to

1161
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:52.599
fix your TV. And then Wendy texted her brother, this

1162
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:58.280
is so sweet. But then she deleted that text. Then

1163
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:04.880
Charlie called Wendy. Now something else interesting. Wendy's phone. You

1164
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.599
know how you have your calendar in your phone, Well,

1165
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:10.840
Wendy's calendar she had an event saved in it on

1166
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:15.239
that day that said fix TV. Police looked into this

1167
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:16.840
to see did a TV guy really come?

1168
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:17.760
And guess what he did?

1169
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:22.239
A TV repairman did show up from best Buy and

1170
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:26.079
while he was there, she said she called Charlie because

1171
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:27.760
she wanted she didn't know if it was worth it

1172
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.480
to pay to fix the TV the TV was broken,

1173
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:32.440
or if she should just go out and buy a

1174
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:37.159
completely new one. The thing is this, that call did happen,

1175
01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:42.320
but that call lasted eighteen minutes. So is she trying

1176
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:45.960
to tell us or claim that a repair man just

1177
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:50.199
stood there waiting while she talked to her brother for

1178
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:55.840
almost twenty minutes about fixing a TV. I don't buy that.

1179
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.320
I mean, how could that have been a twenty minute conversation?

1180
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:02.400
They hung up, and then immediately Charlie called their mom

1181
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:06.000
for thirty seconds, they hung up. Then Charlie called Catherine,

1182
01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:11.599
and then Charlie called Wendy, like, are you seeing this happen?

1183
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:15.079
And I took this time to explain it because rapid

1184
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.840
succession phone calls show that they were connected. And to

1185
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.440
say Wendy was not involved in this is absolutely insane.

1186
01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:25.719
She is so involved, she is so involved in this.

1187
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:28.880
And she also then went into her calendar on her

1188
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:33.480
phone and she deleted the event that said fix TV.

1189
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.519
So I want to ask you, a prudent, average person,

1190
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.400
have you ever deleted an event that actually took place

1191
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.960
that you had saved in your phone after the fact. No,

1192
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:47.840
I've never done that after the fact. No, why what,

1193
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:51.079
I it doesn't matter. It reminded me great life went on.

1194
01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:54.639
So at this same time, all of that's going on.

1195
01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:56.400
And by the way, I'm I throw this out there,

1196
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:59.519
I think that Wendy broke the TV on purpose so

1197
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:01.280
we could set up all of this talk.

1198
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:02.960
You follow me.

1199
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:07.400
So at this time, Dan was driving to premiere Fitness,

1200
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:10.159
and he walked in. He greeted the workers with a smile,

1201
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:12.559
and then he went and worked out while he thought

1202
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:14.159
about all the things that he had to do for

1203
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:16.000
his trip that he was going out of town for

1204
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:18.920
the next day. And then he got his workout done,

1205
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:20.440
he walked out, He waves by to the women at

1206
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:23.199
the front desk, and he walks to his car. At

1207
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:27.000
nine to fifty nine am, Sigfredo turned off his cell

1208
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:31.400
phone while Dan was walking out into the gym parking lot,

1209
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:34.239
and that, by the way, is backed up by video surveillance.

1210
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:36.519
You see Dan go out to his car, and then

1211
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:40.000
Dan drove straight home from the gym, as seen on

1212
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:44.119
those bus cameras with the green Prius close in tail.

1213
01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:48.039
When they got into the neighborhood, Dan took a left

1214
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.199
and the hitman took a right. This is all according

1215
01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:55.280
to Luis, But it was okay. They went different directions

1216
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.840
because they were going around the opposite sides of the

1217
01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:00.639
same square blocks. So they knew because they already scoped

1218
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.400
it out, that Dan was going to turn and that

1219
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.440
they would end up facing each other and coming down

1220
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:08.400
the block facing each other, which was perfect. Whenever they're

1221
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:11.440
trying to time pulling in behind Dan so that they

1222
01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:13.280
could ambush him. They needed to be able to see

1223
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:17.039
him coming. The cars approached each other, Dan pulled into

1224
01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:20.360
his driveway and that's whenever the Assassin's pulled in right

1225
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:23.719
behind him. Louis was in the driver's seat, sig Fredo

1226
01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:26.280
was in the passenger. They had already worked out all

1227
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:29.559
the details, and since this was Sigfredo's job, as they

1228
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:31.800
called it, sig Fredo was going to take the lead

1229
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:34.119
and be the trigger man. He jumped out of the car.

1230
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:37.679
He ran straight up to Dan's vehicle. Dan didn't even

1231
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.480
have time to open the door. He raised a thirty

1232
01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:43.920
eight caliber revolver to the window and he pulled the

1233
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:48.400
trigger as the glass shattered, Louise said when police asked

1234
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:50.719
him what happened when he pulled the trigger, Louise said, well,

1235
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:52.639
I saw the man's arm raise up in front of

1236
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:55.280
his face. Doesn't that sound just like what that doctor

1237
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:57.840
said about why he had that bruising and.

1238
01:07:57.800 --> 01:07:59.360
That soot on his arm.

1239
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.840
Sigfredo saw that once the glass shattered. He then leaned

1240
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.599
in closer and he shot Dan again, and then he

1241
01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:10.679
ran back to the prius. They squealed backwards out of

1242
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:12.840
the driveway as fast as they could, and he said,

1243
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:18.920
we sped away, And that's when neighbor mcgeiger, mister Geiger, sorry, watched.

1244
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:20.079
Them from his front window.

1245
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:23.199
Now, when the two men sped away in the Prius,

1246
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:25.800
they passed that city bus that they had been caught

1247
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.800
on camera. And while speeding away, Sigfredo was hiding the

1248
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:33.600
gun under the rug of the car. But Louise said, yeah,

1249
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:36.199
and then something happened. He said, what happened? He said,

1250
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:40.079
Sigfredo accidentally discharged the gun and he shot through the.

1251
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.439
Floorboard of the Prius.

1252
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:46.640
So I guess when he was all worked up after

1253
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:49.079
just having committed a homicide, at some point he just

1254
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:50.960
messed up and pulled the trigger and he shot through

1255
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:53.239
the bottom of the car. Well, hey, that would just

1256
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:56.039
be one more thing to add credibility to what Louis said. Right,

1257
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.119
So they went and they tracked down the car, the

1258
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:02.960
exact Prius that had been rented. They pulled the mats

1259
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:06.560
and guess what a bullet hole was right there in

1260
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:09.800
the floorboard. I'm telling you now, I believe Luis. He's

1261
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:11.520
a bad guy, but I believe him.

1262
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:13.479
Wendy.

1263
01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:18.880
Now that Dan's just been executed, Wendy about that time

1264
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.760
left her house to head to a liquor store because

1265
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:24.000
she had to stock the bar party. And there's a

1266
01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:26.319
receipt in her car and the bottle of liquor which

1267
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:30.800
proves this. But what stands out is her store choice

1268
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:34.640
and her route. It's very interesting because she went to

1269
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:38.359
the ABC liquor store. She checked out at twelve forty

1270
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:41.880
nine pm. But here's the thing. There were three other

1271
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:46.560
liquor stores that she passed on her way to ABC

1272
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:51.800
which were much closer to her current location to the tea.

1273
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:52.560
I want you to know this.

1274
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:56.920
It extended her travel time from nine minutes to twenty minutes.

1275
01:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.479
Why would you go that far out of your way?

1276
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.319
Well, it makes sense because if she didn't go to

1277
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:05.119
that ABC, then she wouldn't have had a reason to

1278
01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:09.640
pass by Dan's house. Only ABC liquor Store would have

1279
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:13.000
taken her that way. And her cell phone records show

1280
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:18.640
that she drove right by Dan's house, right there at

1281
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:22.479
the crime scene. There was a roadblock there. Her cell

1282
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:25.439
phone records showed that she did it, and a cop

1283
01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:28.479
that was stationed where they had tied it off verified

1284
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:32.399
he saw that red van pull up. Then turn around

1285
01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:34.760
at the corner where the road was blocked off and

1286
01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.319
taped off, and go the other direction. Now, I'm going

1287
01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:40.239
to ask you something again a prudent person, I'm a mom.

1288
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:41.960
I know a lot of my listeners are moms and

1289
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:46.880
dads and grandparents, and something seems really odd to me here.

1290
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:52.760
She turned around after seeing crime scene tape. An attorney

1291
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:58.720
saw crime scene tape just three houses down from Dan's house,

1292
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:02.640
and because there was only three houses down, she could

1293
01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:06.159
see from where she was that there was a problem

1294
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:12.039
at Dan's house. But she never called Dan. She never

1295
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:15.479
was like, oh my god, the kids, what's happening. She

1296
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:17.880
didn't roll down her window and talked to the cop saying,

1297
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:18.720
what's going on here?

1298
01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:22.439
What's happening? You know nothing, none of that.

1299
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:27.960
She saw crime scene tape, turned around and went the

1300
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.399
other way. Police asked her about this, by the way,

1301
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:32.199
and she said, oh, I just figured a tree fell

1302
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:38.039
or something crime scene tape. You're a fucking Harvard graduate lawyer,

1303
01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:42.520
and you thought crime scene tape. A Rhodes scholar is

1304
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:45.680
gonna tell me she thought crime scene tape was for

1305
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:50.600
a tree. I guess trees are just branching out bad

1306
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.680
pun and doing full blown lives of crime now that

1307
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.560
we need crime scene tape. That's so ridiculous and absurd.

1308
01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:00.920
So she left there. She went and the liquor, and

1309
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.000
then she went and she met her friends for lunch

1310
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.520
at Mosaic, and that's where the police founder asked her

1311
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:07.399
to come to the station and broke the news to

1312
01:12:07.439 --> 01:12:09.920
her about the murder, where she was heartbroken to find

1313
01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:13.920
that out. Oh my god, I hope I didn't make Jeff,

1314
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:16.199
my ex boyfriend, go crazy and kill my ex husband

1315
01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:22.439
was posed And Sigfredo's phone was never used. By the way,

1316
01:12:22.439 --> 01:12:24.279
remember how he turned it off right before the murder.

1317
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.720
It was never used again that day until around noon

1318
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:30.560
when his location shows he turned the phone back on,

1319
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.760
but he was already en route back to Miami by

1320
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:36.319
that point. And guess who His very first call was

1321
01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:43.039
to his baby mama, Kate. And when she answered the phone,

1322
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:47.239
all he said was it's done. But Luis added something

1323
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:50.560
to that because he said, Sigfredo said it's done, and

1324
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:51.800
she responded with I know.

1325
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:52.760
I heard her say.

1326
01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:53.079
I know.

1327
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:55.880
How in the hell would she know?

1328
01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.359
Because it sure sounds to me like someone must have

1329
01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:01.359
driven by the crime seen in a red van and

1330
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:04.600
knew it happened already, doesn't it. Maybe she had communicated

1331
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:09.039
that already. Sigfredo then demanded, where's my money? I want

1332
01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:12.079
my money, and Catherine said you're gonna get that money tomorrow,

1333
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:15.920
and it pissed him off. He's like, look, no, a

1334
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:18.319
murder for hire, you usually get paid up front, not

1335
01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:21.640
over time, first of all. And now I've killed this motherfucker.

1336
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:24.159
I want my money, and she says you're gonna get

1337
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:28.199
it tomorrow. So both of the men drove back home,

1338
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.199
and Sigfredo said, Louis said, we threw the gun in

1339
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:34.159
a river on our way back home, so that gun

1340
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:37.119
was not recovered. So when the men got back in town,

1341
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:39.800
that's when they swung by that ATM.

1342
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:40.560
That we saw the photos of.

1343
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:42.560
That he admitted to and says, yep, we went got

1344
01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:45.359
some money out of the bank. That night, Catherine and

1345
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:48.600
Charlie talked by phone and Charlie said, look, I'm just

1346
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:49.439
not feeling good.

1347
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:53.319
You can come over to my house, which she did. Now,

1348
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:55.720
Kate's phone during.

1349
01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:58.880
This call was showing that she was at Sigfredo's and

1350
01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:02.560
so It's kind of believed that she was at Sigfredo's

1351
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:05.079
because she he was demanding that money and he wanted

1352
01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:07.399
confirmation of his money. But Charlie said, I don't feel good.

1353
01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:10.039
You got to come to the house. Well, wouldn't you know.

1354
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.560
Whenever Catherine and Charlie hang up, Charlie immediately called his mom, Donna,

1355
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:19.560
and shortly thereafter, Donna's cell phone shows up on location

1356
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:23.000
at Charlie's house and she texts him, call us a

1357
01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:26.920
SAP outside your house, which us stands out to me

1358
01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:32.039
because Wendy's back in Tallahassee, so the only person that's

1359
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:36.279
left would be Harvey, the dad. So I guess both

1360
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:41.399
parents were outside, and Charlie replied immediately ten minutes and

1361
01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:43.640
that's whenever his cell phone shows that he arrived at

1362
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:46.920
the house really ten minutes later, and then his mom's

1363
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:48.439
cell phone left the area.

1364
01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:49.520
Based on the.

1365
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:53.000
Tower locations, Charlie never left his house again that night,

1366
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:55.720
which is confirmed again by cell phone records. And I'm

1367
01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:57.600
gonna tell you why that matters in just a second.

1368
01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.800
So Catherine's phone was turned off off when she left

1369
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:05.640
sick Fredo's house, and she arrived at Charlie's house that night,

1370
01:15:06.119 --> 01:15:09.560
and she said when he answered the door, she was

1371
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:12.079
kind of shocked because he was completely frantic. He had

1372
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:14.520
a gun in his hand. He was all over the place,

1373
01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:18.279
completely frazzled. She was trying to calm him down. I'm

1374
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:20.760
assuming because oh my god, we really they murdered him.

1375
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:24.479
They murdered Dan. And she said, when it got inside

1376
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:27.119
and he calmed down, Charlie gave me a grocery bag

1377
01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:29.640
full of money to the tune of one hundred grand

1378
01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:32.960
in cash. Then they took some xan X and they

1379
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.600
both fell asleep for the night. The killers. Meanwhile, they

1380
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:38.319
went to a bar and partied because they had gotten

1381
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:40.079
away with murder and they made a shitload of money.

1382
01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:41.800
They felt like they were gonna be rich the next morning.

1383
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:44.119
So the next morning, Luis got up, he went to

1384
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.960
the barber to get him a fresh haircut. And that's

1385
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:50.359
when Catherine's phone turns back on and it shows that

1386
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:54.560
she's en route to Sigfredo's house, and she keeps blowing

1387
01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:56.800
up his cell phone, blowing it up, blowing it up,

1388
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.079
but he won't answer the phone. Now we know now

1389
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:00.640
it's because he don't his cell phone.

1390
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:01.319
After the murder.

1391
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.560
She didn't know that, So she then starts calling Louise

1392
01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:07.960
and they talked back and forth, and the next thing

1393
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:13.600
you know, she goes to Louis's house. After she leaves

1394
01:16:13.680 --> 01:16:19.319
Louise's location, there is never again another communication between Catherine

1395
01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:23.840
or Louise ever again, like in their lifetime until ever,

1396
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:27.239
they never speak again. Doesn't that make sense? Because he

1397
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:30.319
got paid, he got his money. She then went to

1398
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.640
Sigfredo's house, and the money itself is pretty telling. This

1399
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:36.479
is where the small things become the big things in

1400
01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:40.279
an investigation, because when Catherine and Sigfredo open the money,

1401
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.479
they found it was in a plastic ziplock, which was

1402
01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:45.520
in a brown bag, which was in a grocery bag.

1403
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:48.359
And when they pulled their cash out, they found it

1404
01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:52.640
was all one hundred dollars bills stapled together in stacks

1405
01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:54.880
of a thousand. It was stapled in the corner. And

1406
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:56.760
they were really weird it out though, because the money

1407
01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:01.279
was damp and like molded. So Catherine's like, what the

1408
01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:03.079
hell do we do? And Sigfredo said, we'll just blow

1409
01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:06.520
dry the money. Well why does this matter? Well, guess what,

1410
01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:09.479
everybody knew this his friends and everyone knew Charlie did

1411
01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:13.039
not keep money at his house. Multiple people confirmed this.

1412
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:15.399
He did not keep cash at his house. His parents

1413
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:17.920
had a safe and they all kept all of their

1414
01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:21.960
cash in that safe, but in separate stacks because they

1415
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:25.239
gave discounts to patients for paying cash, I'm assuming to

1416
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:27.199
avoid taxes, so they had a ton.

1417
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:27.920
Of cash on them.

1418
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:34.079
And the belief is that when Donna drove by the

1419
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:36.760
house to say come outside, we're out here, she was

1420
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:39.880
bringing the money to him, and Charlie told Catherine the

1421
01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:44.119
money's wet because I think my mom literally washed the money,

1422
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:49.159
like literally washed it. So if you keep money also,

1423
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:52.960
if that didn't happen, if you keep cash in a bank,

1424
01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:56.840
I mean in a safe and it doesn't have like

1425
01:17:56.920 --> 01:18:01.000
a dehumidifier or something, money has moisture to it, it'll

1426
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.560
mold as well. So either way what they're saying it

1427
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:08.680
makes sense. And Luis confirmed the police asked him what

1428
01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:11.840
was your money like when you got paid off? He said, well,

1429
01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:15.239
it was hundreds and they were in stacks of thousands

1430
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:18.199
and it was stapled in the corner. Luise got roughly

1431
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:22.600
thirty five thousand. Sigfredo got forty thousand, and then Catherine

1432
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:26.079
got the remainder, plus she was getting the monthly payments

1433
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:30.000
by Charlie whenever Donna was cutting checks.

1434
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:33.399
Who knew you could finance a murder for hire? Who

1435
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:37.319
knew that? I did not know. It's like renaissenter for murder.

1436
01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:42.119
So investigators spoke to employees at the dental clinic about

1437
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:46.000
cash collection procedures, and guess what it was. They were

1438
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:49.600
instructed to take all hundreds, put them in stacks of

1439
01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:53.159
thousand of one thousand, staple them.

1440
01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:56.000
And put them into the safe. Who to thunk it?

1441
01:18:57.159 --> 01:19:02.279
M So some time passes by and Sigfredo gets back

1442
01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:06.439
together with Catherine and they become a couple again. Well

1443
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:09.600
in the weeks and months after the murder, it's also

1444
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:14.079
known that he's spending money like crazy, as was Louise, who,

1445
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:17.800
by the way, before the murder had twenty nine overdraft

1446
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:20.359
charges in the bank. He had no more than like

1447
01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:24.680
sixty bucks to his name. Now they're buying cash, motorcycles

1448
01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:30.479
and cars and going on spending sprees. It was after

1449
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:35.560
this when that Luis and Sigfredo were arrested. Then the

1450
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:39.880
BOMP or the sting letter was given to Donna. Then

1451
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.920
Charlie met with Catherine at that restaurant at Dulce Vita

1452
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:45.000
to try to figure out who was actually pressing them

1453
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:48.159
for money. They both kept calling that phone number but

1454
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.880
from the letter, but nobody was answering. Their phones were tapped.

1455
01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:57.119
All the conversations were recorded, and another conversation would happen. Catherine,

1456
01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.159
who was working at a real estate company by now

1457
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:03.199
because all this time had past, was talking to Charlie

1458
01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:06.199
over the phone. But they were starting to speak in code.

1459
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:09.439
Isn't that weird? Too innocent people would start speaking in code.

1460
01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:12.439
She was using words like real estate agent which would

1461
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:17.760
mean police agent, listing properties which meant killing tenant, which

1462
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:20.880
meant the blackmailer. But they were too dumb to even

1463
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:23.960
make their code make sense because one conversation, this is

1464
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:27.800
like comical. Charlie was worried in the conversation that the

1465
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:31.479
tenant may raise the rent on the property because he

1466
01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:34.239
was renting in an area that was bad.

1467
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:35.520
Make that make sense?

1468
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:37.520
And what world would a tenant say, I'm going to

1469
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:39.880
offer you more money because I'm in a bad area. Like,

1470
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:44.279
your code doesn't even make sense, idiots. So after all

1471
01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:46.560
of the evidence was collected at this point. On April

1472
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:49.880
twenty first of twenty twenty two, Charlie Adelson was arrested

1473
01:20:49.880 --> 01:20:54.079
in charge with first degree murder, conspiracy, and solicitation of murder,

1474
01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:58.960
and at trial, it was brought to light that illegal

1475
01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:03.279
financial transactions weren't beneath the Adelson family either, because what

1476
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:06.840
if I told you that Dad Harvey Adelson had been

1477
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:09.840
convicted in a Ponzi scheme when Wendy was like in

1478
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:12.640
eighth grade, and he had lost all of their life

1479
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:16.279
savings because he was doing illegal Ponzi scheme. Shit, They're

1480
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:19.960
not above all this illegal transactions. And when Wendy was

1481
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:24.359
brought to testify, she was listed as an unindicted co

1482
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:28.119
conspirator in Dan Markell's murder, and she was reminded by

1483
01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:32.159
attorneys that in her initial interrogation she said that it

1484
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.079
could have been her brother. When trying to uncover who

1485
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:39.000
could have done it, how Charlie joked about hiring a

1486
01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:39.479
hit man.

1487
01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:42.600
She again said, oh, but it was just a joke.

1488
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:43.359
It was just a joke.

1489
01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:45.119
But I'm going to tell you right now, her body

1490
01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:47.199
language in that trial, if you go watch any part

1491
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:51.319
of it, she is so so aloof and lighthearted, and

1492
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:54.520
it's this sick attempt. You can tell that she's trying

1493
01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:56.359
to make it like this is ridiculous.

1494
01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:58.600
This whole situation is ridiculous.

1495
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:02.199
I watched the whole trial well, and she downplayed everything,

1496
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:05.479
She had an excuse for everything, and quite frankly, she

1497
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:11.359
came across as an entitled, arrogant brat. And even after

1498
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:15.680
all of the evidence that you have heard, the Rhodes scholar,

1499
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:21.239
Harvard and Cambridge trained attorney couldn't see a link.

1500
01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:25.359
She couldn't see a link. It was just so ridiculous.

1501
01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:26.159
That is so pathetic.

1502
01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:29.920
Fucking Ray Charles could see the link here, but not

1503
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.920
her couldn't see a damn thing. Charlie's defense was also laughable.

1504
01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:38.239
He claims that Catherine showed up at his house panicked

1505
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:42.039
and that he was gonna be blackmailed for money because

1506
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:46.239
gang members killed Dan to extort Charlie. Why the hell

1507
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:49.359
would gang members go kill the ex husband of a

1508
01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:53.159
man's sister if they wanted to blackmail him for money,

1509
01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:55.119
and why would they travel to go do it?

1510
01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:56.720
Like, give me a break, It doesn't even make sense.

1511
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:59.840
And it's almost comical too, because Luis testified in his

1512
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:04.159
trial too, and Luis, y'all, he's gruff, he's rough around

1513
01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:04.680
the edges.

1514
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:06.560
He's everything you would expect a gangster to be.

1515
01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:10.119
And they're asking him some questions about that, and he

1516
01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:11.840
was like, I don't know who was hiring me for

1517
01:23:11.880 --> 01:23:13.279
the hit. I just knew that I was gonna make

1518
01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.680
some easy money. Catherine always talked to the hit man.

1519
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:18.680
I was just trying to make some money. He said,

1520
01:23:18.680 --> 01:23:20.359
this is more money than I could ever make, and

1521
01:23:20.439 --> 01:23:23.359
one thing, you know, but whatever, and.

1522
01:23:23.319 --> 01:23:24.720
Then he scoffed on the stand.

1523
01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:28.319
It was comical because the attorney's saying something about him

1524
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:32.039
next doorning He's like, listen, if I had known how

1525
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:34.560
much money this guy had, I would have never went

1526
01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:37.079
and committed a murder. It would have been easier just

1527
01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:38.880
to go beat his ass and rob him and then

1528
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:40.479
go on about my way and not have to do

1529
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:44.119
a road trip, which would really make sense. I'd rather

1530
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:46.399
have robbed him than go have to kill somebody for it.

1531
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:51.680
The whole blackmail came upclaim doesn't hold weight, and it's

1532
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:54.640
just ridiculous. They spoke for two more years Kate and

1533
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:57.039
Charlie after they broke up, and he never once mentioned

1534
01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:01.199
this blackmail. Charlie's best friend said he never mentioned that

1535
01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:05.159
someone was trying to extort him. Wendy testified at her

1536
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:08.840
brother's trial that she only found out during the testimony

1537
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:11.680
at her brother's trial that he was being blackmailed for

1538
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:16.840
money for the murder of her children's father. This family

1539
01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:18.239
that talks all the give me.

1540
01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:22.039
A break, y'all, it's so it's just so ridiculous.

1541
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.279
I mean, if that was the truth, they weren't worried

1542
01:24:25.279 --> 01:24:29.840
about Wendy's safety or her kid's safety. Since Dan was dead,

1543
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:32.640
they weren't worried about that. They never brought it up.

1544
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:37.359
I mean, maybe, I know bullshit stinks, but it clearly

1545
01:24:37.359 --> 01:24:38.039
has a sound too.

1546
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:40.119
Because you just heard it. That is ridiculous.

1547
01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:44.680
Poor Dan's family had been through so much, and as

1548
01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:48.159
this fiasco unfolded on live television, at one point, the

1549
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:53.920
cameras panned over to Dan's mama. She watched as her

1550
01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:58.319
baby boy's murderer testified to killing him like it was

1551
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:03.680
taking out the trash, No remorse, just very matter of fact.

1552
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:10.239
She listened as multiple people talked about the conspiracy and

1553
01:25:10.279 --> 01:25:14.159
their involvement in planning the death of her child. For

1554
01:25:14.279 --> 01:25:19.920
two years well over a year, and then another year

1555
01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:26.159
they lied about it her baby boy. Then Wendy got

1556
01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:28.560
up on the stand and aloofly acted like everything was

1557
01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:32.720
ridiculous after her baby boy had been dead. I don't

1558
01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:34.960
care that he was in his forties. That's her baby,

1559
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:37.840
that will always be her baby. He had been dead

1560
01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.800
now for years, and Wendy's acting like this whole thing

1561
01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:44.720
is just ridiculous. And you see the exhaustion in that

1562
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:48.680
woman's eyes. To hear all of this had to have

1563
01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:50.279
just been emotionally draining.

1564
01:25:50.359 --> 01:25:52.479
And I'm telling you, my heart ached.

1565
01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:55.199
It really hurt when you just saw how exhausted this

1566
01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:57.840
mama was and everything that that family had been through.

1567
01:25:58.119 --> 01:26:00.560
But on November the sixth of twenty two, twenty three,

1568
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:03.920
after only three hours of deliberation, the jury found doctor

1569
01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:08.479
Charlie Adelson guilty of murder, conspiracy, and solicitation.

1570
01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:11.119
But it gets even better.

1571
01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:17.159
Mama Donna, who had nothing to do with the situation,

1572
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:21.520
nothing to do with it, just happened to be boarding

1573
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:25.720
a plane out of the country just seven days after

1574
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:30.119
her son's conviction when the FBI went ahead and put

1575
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.399
some pretty silver bracelets on her and affected an arrest

1576
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:37.039
before the plane could even take off. Just two days later,

1577
01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:41.039
she was indicted for murder and conspiracy for the death

1578
01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:44.119
of Dan Markel, to what she pled not guilty on

1579
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:47.720
December eleventh of twenty twenty three. The next day after

1580
01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:53.279
her not guilty plead, her son was sentenced to life

1581
01:26:53.359 --> 01:26:58.359
in prison plus sixty years for conspiracy and solicitation of murder.

1582
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:03.880
I want y'all to know Charlie had a son that

1583
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:09.640
he will now never see, and Donna will likely never

1584
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:14.520
see her son again. And in some way, there's almost

1585
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:18.319
poetic justice in that you took away someone else's son,

1586
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:20.359
and now you will suffer.

1587
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:23.520
A very similar loss. I guess.

1588
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:27.399
Donna's going to stand trial in just a few months

1589
01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:29.000
from the date that I'm doing this recording.

1590
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.399
It's scheduled for August nineteenth, twenty twenty five.

1591
01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:33.800
In honey, I don't know what will be tight or

1592
01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:36.720
her face lift or her clinched butthole, because she's got

1593
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:39.479
to know that she doesn't have a snowballs chance in

1594
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:41.960
hell of winning her case. But stand by for that one,

1595
01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:43.720
because I'm gonna be watching it, are you, I hope.

1596
01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:48.359
So the entire way that this murder for hire was

1597
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:52.079
constructed was in a way for Wendy Adelson to maintain

1598
01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:56.520
plausible deniability of any role in it. Since she was

1599
01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.159
going to be the number one suspect and her family

1600
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:04.319
knew it. She had everything to gain, and they all

1601
01:28:04.359 --> 01:28:07.920
as a family thought they were smarter than the police.

1602
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:13.359
But isn't it interesting that no Adelman family ever, no

1603
01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:17.359
member of the Adelman family ever reached out or tried

1604
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:21.039
to assist in the unsolved murder of their child and

1605
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:22.680
grandchild's father.

1606
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:25.079
Of course they didn't.

1607
01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:27.439
They didn't, They didn't care, They didn't have to. They

1608
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:30.039
knew who murdered him. They never even reached out in

1609
01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:31.399
any of this time to try to help.

1610
01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:33.439
They knew who did it.

1611
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:38.600
They were too intelligent and too rich to ever be caught.

1612
01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:41.079
They would pay the gutter rats of society to do

1613
01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:44.640
their dirty work, and no one would believe them if

1614
01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:48.479
they said anything anyway. They're gutter rats. They're beneath the

1615
01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:52.760
adel sins. And adding to the icing on the cake

1616
01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:57.640
is that Wendy had the names of the children legally

1617
01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:03.319
changed from Markel to Adelson a year after his murder.

1618
01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:07.279
She totally wiped his existence from those children's names and

1619
01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:11.640
from their lives, and she also moved to live by

1620
01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:15.720
her parents days after Dan's murder.

1621
01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:18.680
She got everything she wanted.

1622
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:22.840
She got the kids without sharing, the removal of Dan's

1623
01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:26.439
name from them, and to move home by her parents.

1624
01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:30.479
Dan be damned, she got her way, and it makes

1625
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:35.159
me sick. Wendy and her father have yet to be

1626
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:37.960
indicted for their role in the murder of Dan Markel.

1627
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:40.760
But I am waiting and I'm not giving up hope.

1628
01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:43.000
For Dan's sake and his memory.

1629
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:46.199
I hope that worldly justice will prevail eventually.

1630
01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:49.319
And while the adel Sins may look down on me

1631
01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:53.159
and you, we don't need a damn Harvard diploma to

1632
01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:57.239
teach us about decency and morals because they aren't elite

1633
01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:00.439
concepts and there's something that we can all afford because

1634
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:03.359
they don't require money, just a heart. Wendy and her

1635
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:05.279
father have yet to be indicted for their role in

1636
01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:07.680
the murder of Dan Markel. But I'm waiting and I'm

1637
01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.680
not giving up. For Dan's sake and for his memory,

1638
01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:14.800
I'm holding on that worldly justice will eventually prevail. And

1639
01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:17.800
while the Atolsns continue to look down on everyone else,

1640
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:19.960
at least we don't have to walk around admitting that

1641
01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:21.880
we got taken down by an ATM and a boot

1642
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:22.199
job