Feb. 24, 2026

Part 2 | The Fire Pit

Part 2 | The Fire Pit
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Season 9

Kelly completes her deep dive into the case of Seath Jackson, a 15 year old, was murdered. The ensuing investigation rocked this community in Florida when his Ex-Girlfriend Amber Wright along with four others were charged with his murder.

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all, kJ

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you're back with part and I'm gonna finish this episode

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up the series. This little short one for you today,

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So don't worry. I'm not going to break it up anymore.

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And I just want you to know him on Cloud

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nine right now. I wrote all night last night while

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my sweet husband drove me back from Mississippi, because I

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went and saw a Rascal Flat's concert that was something

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on my bucket list I really wanted to do. I

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don't know if any of y'all were there. You should

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send me a picture if you were, but I've got

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some pictures in some video I might post those for you,

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maybe not if you don't want If you don't like

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country music, it's not for you. But I had a blast,

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but I worked really hard to make sure that I

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finished this and so my little fingers were just a

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typhen last night while I was on the road. So

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let's jump right back into this episode. This will be,

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like I said, completed, so you don't have to worry

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about that. We will finish up today. Okay, So where

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we left off last week was that Seth Jackson, young

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Seth Jackson was missing. They were looking for him, but

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his ex girlfriend's mother and his ex girlfriend's brother were

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brought down to the police station because they said that

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they had a tip that police may want to know.

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And in that tip, the brother, his name was Kyle,

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said that he had another guy by the name of

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Michael Bargo shoot and kill Seth. Now, at one point,

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Mom left the interview room and Kyle the brother, then

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further admitted to that investigator. Look, there's a little bit

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more to it. I can't say this in front of

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my mom, but I did help Carrie Seth's body to

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the backyard because I was scared. I'd just seen him

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be murdered. I didn't want to be murdered, and there

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was a fireback there, and I watched Mike basically cremate

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him in that fire. Again, he helped because he just

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did not want to be killed himself, and he was

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basically traumatized by this. He was young, he was only

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sixteen years old. Now Mike was now believed to be

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on the run and police had found him and they

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were now on their way to go and get him.

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So they located him and they were going to go

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arrest him or at least take him into custody. Now,

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Seth's parents then dropped a bombshell. If you remember at

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the end of last episode that Mike the shooter was

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seen by the parents right before his murder kissing Amber

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and this was in front of their house and words

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were allegedly exchanged, and so that kind of shifted the

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dynamic here. Now, Mike at that point had also basically

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threatened Seth and said that he had a bullet with

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his name on it, and so this was all kind

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of seeming very suspicious, okay, and not that this was

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just fly by night type of shooting that had occurred.

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Now some further information the brother was able to give

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and he was like, look, I do maybe have an

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idea of where Seth's might body Mike could be located.

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I'm not certain, but he did mention there was a

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red dumpster outside of the trailer where he was staying.

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And he also said that Seth's body or his remains

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may possibly have also been buried. And he said that

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because when he returned to the house the next day

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after work, that there were five gallon paint cans that

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had been outside the paint was now dumped out, and

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that Michael had a shovel, And basically he deduced that

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the remains must have been shoveled into these five gallon

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buckets of paint that had been dumped out and buried

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or taken somewhere else. Now, a little further into that,

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Kyle also said, I don't think that he could have

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taken the remains very far because he didn't have a car.

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Mike didn't have a way to get from point A

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to point B other than a bicycle. I believe he had,

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and that wouldn't have been conducive because of all of

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the cans. Now, they did sort of question I want

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you to know this, you know, did do you think

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maybe his father possibly would have come and helped him

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with this, because his father was kind of permissive in

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poor decision making as a parent and not really holding

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his son very accountable I think for a lot of

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misgivings and missteps that he was making. But that just

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was not the case. And Kyle was pretty adamant about that.

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He's like, look, I don't think his dad would have

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helped him with this. Matter of fact, he and his

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dad were actually in a fight at that point, and

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his dad was pissed at him because just the night before,

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Mike Junior had murdered Seth. That's when Mike Junior went

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and he got tattoos of tear drops put on his

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face under his eyes, and I know we all know

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the symbolism behind that is supposed to be murderers, you know,

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you get the tear drop tattoos. But his dad was

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so pissed off just about the tattoos. He told him,

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I didn't raise you like this. I didn't raise you

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to look like a thug and to do this stupid

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shit that you're doing. And so he was very put

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off by that. So that just didn't sound like a

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dad to him that would come and help dispose of

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a body, and I would have to say that that's

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probably on par So once they kind of cleared all

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of that up, Kyle was really out of information at

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that moment to share with investigators. He had given up

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basically everything that he had, and the detective was like, okay.

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It was a female detective. I believe her name was Rondo.

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She's like, okay, you know, I got all this information,

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and then just as she's about to walk out of

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the room, she kind of goes to stand up. You

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see her paws slightly and she kind of looks over

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at Kyle and she said, hold on a second, just

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a quiet real quick. So you do think that Seth's

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body was burned and that Mike used a shovel to

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put all the remains into the paint cans? Correct in

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the backyard? Am I understanding that correctly? And he nods.

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Kyle nods in agreeance and says, yeah, I mean that's

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what I think happened. I don't know, but that seems

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to make sense. But her question was okay, well, so

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if it was three large paint cans, and I want

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you to understand, these were five gallon paint paint cans,

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not one gallon So these are big. Okay, there were

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a couple of those. I think three is what Kyle

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thought that there were. She's like, so if she if

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he filled up three five gallon cans, how do you

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think he would have transported all of those? If he

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didn't have a car, that would be very hard to

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carry three full five gallon cans. And he went on

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and kind of explained, well, they were like plastic, like thick, thick, thick.

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I guess if you think about paint for a commercial

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building or something, you know, or you're painting out large area,

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it was one of those. And so he just kind

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of shrugs and he's like, I don't know, and she

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goes all right, But Kyle is visibly shaken, and he's

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very sheepish at this point, and he kind of sheepishly

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asks this detective, ma'am am, I going to be in

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trouble for this. Well, about that time, his mama comes

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back into the room and the detective leaves again. So

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the recording in the room continues at this point and

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he looks over at his mama, and he's a big guy,

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but he says, I'm scared, and he drops his head

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down into his hands and he starts just sobbing. He

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is terrified, and you cannot help but feel for this

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kid in that moment. He's just devastated and he's scared. Well.

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As that's happening, it turns out that now the investigators

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were wanting to speak to his sister, which was fifteen

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year old Amber. And again Amber is the ex girlfriend

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of the missing and now presumed to be more seth.

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So when investigators starts speaking with Amber, she basically echoes

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much of what her brother had already told police. There

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it was pretty much the same story, a few little

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extra details here and there, but nothing of major consequence.

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All of their cell phones had been confiscated at this

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point as evidence, and the police were busy preparing to

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search these devices that they had taken, as well as

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some places like locations that had been mentioned by her

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brother during his interview. So there's like a multifacet thing

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that's going on at this time. But while Amber is

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in that room and speaking with this detective, her mother

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is now also in the room with her. As she's

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explaining everything that she knows, and I have to tell

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you this, Their mother, by this point looks completely defeated,

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And the reason I tell you that is because body language.

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To me, I pick up on that. I watch it

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a lot, and it said everything to me. She had

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started these interviews, the one with her son seated in

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the upright position, paying attention, seemed engaged and trying to

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answer questions, but the more information that Seth gave, she

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seemed to become more and more just upset. By the

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time she's now in the room with Amber and Amber's

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kind of starting to talk, Mom is now slumped down

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on the couch like almost her back is on the

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seated portion of it, and she just keeps She has

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her hands up on her head, and she just keeps

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saying like she's just staring off like she's in a dream.

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You can tell that something is a miss. And she's

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also barely speaking to her daughter, Amber, who's trying to

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make small talk with her. You can see everything weighing

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heavily on this Mom, and she even says multiple times

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to Amber, I think I'm gonna be sick, like I

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may throw up. The gravity of all of this was

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just really hitting her. Now, I want to give you

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a little more insight to the family dynamic real quick,

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so you know that Amber and and Kyle have different dads, right, Okay, Well,

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Kyle's biological dad seemed to be out of the picture,

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but Mom and Amber's biological dad were like divorced or

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not together at this point, and she had actually remarried. Okay,

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so she had remarried a man that would become Amber

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and Kyle's stepdad obviously, and his name was James Havens. Well,

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that relationship also eventually fell apart, and then their mom

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divorced mister Havens and got back with Amber's biological dad.

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And even with that the case, it's important for me

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to tell you here that the kids still considered James

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to be their stepdad even though he technically wasn't anymore.

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They still knew him as as their stepdad. So Mom

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and Amber are sitting on the couch in the questioning

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room when the detective comes back in and Amber really

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starts recounting everything and explaining what happened, and the basics

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were basically this seth came over wanting to talk to her.

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He asked to come in and to speak with her.

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Her brother then out of nowhere, got overwhelmed and mad

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and hit him over the head with a piece of

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wood that stressed her and her friend out, her friend

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being Charlie, the girl, the woman that owned the trailer.

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That freaked them out. They ran off and they locked

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themselves in the bathroom, but then eventually they came out

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of the bathroom and they ended up in Charlie's bedroom

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where they were crying. They were scared, and then they

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heard gunshots, which just threw them over the edge. They

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were scared to come out of the room. And she

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tells the detectives, we stayed in that bedroom until the

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next morning because we were terrified to even peek our

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heads out. We knew something was going on. Her brother

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had yelled, don't come out here, and so she said,

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we eventually fell asleep and we slept until about eleven,

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and she said when we woke up, we kind of

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peek our heads out. We go out, and we can

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smell an overwhelming smell of bleach in the house. And

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this definitely tells you that she felt as well as

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you will that someone had tried to clean up the place.

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But she didn't ask many questions because she was terrified

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of Mike and she knew something terrible had happened, and

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so she kind of just was going with the flow

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to not disrupt or cause any type of drama. So

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Amber is very meek, she's polite, she's tiny little thing.

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She used manners both her and she and her brother

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were both very manner filled children. Yes, ma'am, no, ma'am,

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the whole nine yards. But she was obviously very young

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and underestimating the gravity of the story that she was

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telling this detective. As you can see her mother just

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over the as the minutes pass, her mother is just

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dying emotionally beside her. This is unbelievable. Both of her

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children are now admittedly there when a murder went down.

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Neither one had said anything to her until she rested

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the brother about it because he had been staying at

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the trailer. And now here she sits in this room,

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and this is just this is out of your wildish

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dreams that your two children would have experienced this, and

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to be fifteen and the other sixteen talking about murder.

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They're doing so with almost the reality of it, just

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not actually sinking in. I don't know what you would

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think someone would act like after a murder, Okay, I don't.

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I don't know what you think you would do, but

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I would think if I was fifteen or sixteen and

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I saw somebody shot to death in front of me,

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that I might be traumatized the next day. Well, all

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of this is just a lot, okay, So Mom's thinking

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this over. You can see that they're just trying to

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just figure out what's going on. Well, now it was

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Charlie Ealy's turn to come in and to be questioned

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about her experience in the trailer with Amber as well

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when this went down again. Her story was the same,

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except whenever she was talking about what went down. When

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she was asked why did Seth come to the house,

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she mentioned, well, Amber texted him, HM, Well that was

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interesting she texted Seth because to this point, it had

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been understood that Seth had just basically shown up at

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the trailer. If you remember me telling you last episode,

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Kyle said that he was out there with some other

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kids on bikes. They were yelling and trying to draw attention,

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and Mike didn't want that attention because he had a

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warrant out for his arrest. So this just was kind

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of interesting. Now, Detective decided to go ahead and get

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into the cell phones that they had already turned over

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or taken from the kids to basically clarify the situation

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and what had gone on, and this again would be

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eye opening. Now, what I'm gonna do here for you,

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because I don't want to have to go back and forth,

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is I'm going to read the message exchange. I will

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be reading what Amber was sending, and then my esteemed

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colleague jimmyth we'll be reading what Seth was saying in return. Okay,

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I want you to get a feel for the tone

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of these messages, and these messages I also want to

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tell you started at eight twelve pm, the night that

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the murder was believed to have taken place. Hey, can

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you talk? But then there's a thirty minute break before

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he answers, and that's why he's going to ask the

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next question.

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You said you needed to talk, Well.

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I kind of need to talk to you about us

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working things out.

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What do you mean?

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Can you please call me like now?

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Yeah? Sure?

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Hey, my friend Charlie is coming with I've been telling

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her everything between me and you, and she's coming because

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I need her to help through this. Is that okay,

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But don't tell anybody what's going on because I want

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to make sure that we can work things out before

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anyone knows Amber.

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If you're going to have me jumped, I will never

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give you the time of day. So if I get jumped,

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say goodbye. All right.

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I swear you're not Seth. I could never do that

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to you. I just want you and me back, okay.

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All right. So then a little bit of time passes,

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they were going to walk and meet one another, and

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so this is where it picks up again. I'm walking

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up the hill now, I'm at the neighborhood road. Where

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are you? Sorry?

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I didn't want will to hear me, but stay around

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the corner where me and you fought. Just wait right there.

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I'll be there in a minute.

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Okay. So this just kind of begs the question when

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they're going through these messages like, wait a second, that

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kind of sounds like Seth didn't just show up because

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to me and to detectives, and I'm sure to you

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right now, that sounded a more along the lines of

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that he was called and asked to come meet Amber.

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That's different. So that said everyone interviewed to this point

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that detectives are figuring these messages out. They had all

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made it very clear that none of them liked Seth.

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None of them So why was there talk in these

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texts about them getting back together? Because if we reverse

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a little bit, according to Kyle, Seth had put his

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hands on his sister Amber, and according to Seth's own mother,

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she had seen Amber and Mike kissing and holding hands

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in front of their house. They were basically taunting Seth.

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So why would Seth just go and show up to

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the trailer where everybody was if they were all so

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angry with one another. It's just not jiving. So the

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answer seemed to be found right there in these texts

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because Amber had asked him to come meet up with her. Now,

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Seth's own mom, when she was speaking to detectives, had

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told them how hurt he had been over losing Amber.

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He would not have gone to the very trailer where

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the guy who was now with Amber dating her was staying.

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He would never do that. They hated one another, So

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it just didn't make sense. But now seeing that Amber

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was the one who had initiated with Seth, it made

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more sense. But he even feared being jumped. He vocalized

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that he wrote it there. He wasn't trusting her, so

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why would he go to the trailer. Well, Kyle was

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questioned a little bit more the brother, and that's when

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another enlightenment was gained.

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Here.

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Not only did Kyle have beef with Seth for allegedly

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beating up his sister or hitting his sister Amber, but

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there was more to that squabble because Kyle had an

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ex girlfriend as well. Kyle's ex girlfriend was named Alyssa,

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and just one week before Seth's murder, he had been

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over at Alyssa's house and from what I understand, he

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was outside. Kyle was outside of the house and he

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looked into her bedroom window. I don't know if he

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was just checking to see if she was home. I

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don't know what was going on here to give you

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all the details, but either way, he was outside, he

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walked up to her bedroom window, and in that moment,

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Kyle was just shocked when he looked in and he

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saw none other than Seth in bed with his ex

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girlfriend Amber. This threw Kyle into an absolute rage, and

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there was a text message that was located on Seth's phone,

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excuse me, on Kyle's phone. He had texted Amber and

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he said to Amber, I'm gonna kill Seth. So this

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is now starting to layer in this poor kid that

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I mentioned seemed scared and afraid in the interview room

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was now looking more like a guy full of motive

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sixteen years old or not. He put in words that

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he was mad and he wanted to kill Seth. This

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kid allegedly hit your sister and then was sleeping with

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your ex. I mean, hm, you know, it's not hard

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to see we may have a love triangle here. But

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hold on, y'all, it looks like we actually have two

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love triangles on our hands. Because the now still missing

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Mike that they were going to go find and arrest. Well,

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he was now believed to be dating Amber. Remember he's

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holding hands and kissing her and whatnot. So then Amber,

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who's holding hands and kissing Mike. Is she now on

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the slick texting Seth and saying I want to get

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back together with you. There are two love triangles here.

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All of the surprises that these two siblings claimed like

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they just happened to be there whenever Seth was murdered.

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It just wasn't jiving. There had to be more to this,

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even with this uncovered in these messages. So now we're

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gonna insert Charlie Eely, the girl who owns the trailer

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because she is now being interviewed by police as well.

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Now I'm gonna tell you. She comes off as whiny

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and a victim of circumstance being around all of these

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people that she just happened to be there, she got

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wrapped up in something that was way beyond her control.

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But when detectives directly alert her to the fact that, look,

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we know that you were in the trailer when Seth

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was killed, Like we know that. We're not asking you,

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we're telling you, she becomes extremely weepy, fearful. Yes, yes, ma'am, yes, sir, yes, yes, yes,

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and she starts explaining, Look, I was there. I'll tell

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you I was there, but I am so terrified of

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Mike right now. I'm afraid he's gonna come and kill me.

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Like I don't want to say anything, what if he

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comes to hurt me. So the detective takes the time

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and he's like, look, I can assure you he is

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not gonna come get you. You're safe here. We're not

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gonna let him come in and see you and talk

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to you. But you've got to be honest and open

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so that we can fix this. Because Mike's out there

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right now, you're in here. We can protect you right

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now and we can go get Mike, but you got

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to talk to us. So she then admitted that she

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walked with Amber to go meet Seth about getting back together.

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Why because she said Amber was still afraid of Seth,

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and so she was going to be supportive of Amber.

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But that begs a question here. Why would Amber and

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you go meet someone who hurts her to get back

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together with him, but she's too afraid to go by herself.

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You've got to make this make sense. And the reality

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here became that Charlie couldn't make it make sense. She said,

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I was just going along to support my friend. That's

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what happened. When they met up and they were talking,

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Seth then got in a fight with his own mother

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over the phone. I think they were texting back and

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forth and his mom was like, you need to come

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back to the house something along those lines, and so

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Seth was like, look, I gotta go fight with my mom.

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I gotta go, and so they just went their separate ways.

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She said that she and Amber went back to the trailer,

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Seth went about his merry way back to the house

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wherever he went. But there was one big issue here. Obviously,

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so death had come to the trailer because he was

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murdered there. You're missing this, hun He had to have

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come to the trailer. So what you forgot that part?

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And she goes, oh, oh, oh, okay, yeah, well I

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mean he did eventually come to the trailer. Okay, Well

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why wouldn't you say that? And there was another issue

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in that. Kyle, in his interviews, told us that you

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were the one who opened the door for Seth when

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he came inside the trailer. Initially, you wouldn't forget opening

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the door for someone who was murdered in your home.

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A few minutes later, you're not gonna forget that, which

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means you're holding back and you're not giving us full truths.

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We don't want to play this game with you. So

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all of this is now kind of being realized in

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Charlie's head, and you can see that she's thinking and

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she's trying to figure out what's going on, and she

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then shakes her head. Yes, okay, yes that happened. I

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did let him in. But when the shooting happened, me

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and Amber we took off running to the back. We

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ended up in my room and we just broke down

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in fear. We stayed back there. It was terrifying, all right,

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So that's kind of aligning with what Amber said. But

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the detective asks her one simple question, why didn't you

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call for help? You had your phone, Why didn't you

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just call nine one one? Why didn't you call for help?

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And she's like, really no, I couldn't make up if

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I called nine one one. I was afraid Mike was

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gonna come and shoot both of us. Can't call nine

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one one. I mean, I was terrified out of my mind,

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And it's almost not fair, you know, to ask me

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that I was in the middle of just hearing someone

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be murdered. I was terrified. But again, detectives did their

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job here because Charlie, there was another question they were

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going to follow up with. We're really sad that you're

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scared and that that was terrible, but maybe you could

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explain to us then you were too terrified to call

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nine one one, but you had time to text a

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friend that night after this murder is believed to have

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taken place, and you're just telling him how much you

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missed him and that you wanted to see him. So

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you can text a friend, but you can't dial nine

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one one after a murder happens in your house, Can

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you explain that to us? Nope, she could not. She

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did admit yeah, a text that she couldn't not admit it.

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It's on paper, okay. But basically what you're finding out

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here with me as this is unraveling in front of

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the detectives, this whole thing stinks, okay, And the detectives

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now believe that they were on a hot trail of

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lies that would lead them to the truth. But they

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were going to have to apply the pressure because they're

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not getting everything that they felt was there now. Meanwhile,

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warrants were being executed for those multiple locations in conjunction

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with the murder story that's been told. Between all of

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these interrogations or questionings that were done, three warrants for

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sure were executed, one on the trailer Charlie Eli's house.

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They also got one for an Ocala Quarie that they

475
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were gonna go check and I'll explain that more in

476
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.200
a second. And they also got a third one for

477
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.400
Mike's bedroom at his grandmother's house. If you remember first episode,

478
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:16.759
Mike Junior originally lived with Mike Senior and Mike Senior's mother,

479
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.720
so his grandmother, so he did have a room there now.

480
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:23.720
At his grandmother's house, they did find a twenty two

481
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:28.279
caliber cartridge when they were searching that bedroom, so this

482
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:31.920
was backing up the story that Kyle had told police

483
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.559
that Mike was known to carry a twenty two pistol

484
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:38.599
and some others had also said he was known to

485
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:42.839
have a gun. Now at Charlie Ely's trailer. Inside the house,

486
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:46.079
they were able to locate a fully loaded twenty two

487
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:51.160
revolver and two containers of live ammunition that were hidden

488
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:55.240
in a floor vent between the bathroom and the bedroom,

489
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.400
as well as a ton of other ammunition and other

490
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.960
parts of the house. In the yard, when they went

491
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.799
out there, they found the dried paint that Kyle had

492
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.359
said was there. They found a rake, and that rake

493
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.160
had dried paint on the times of the rake, you know,

494
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:14.000
like dragging it through I guess the ground and the paint.

495
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.720
They also located some drag marks in the dirt. In

496
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.000
the backyard, there was a pressure washer on the front porch,

497
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.720
and they found the dumpster Kyle had mentioned, as well

498
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:29.119
as the fire pit in the backyard. So they start

499
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:33.079
searching through the fire pit and they found what they

500
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:38.039
believed to be a possible projectile as well as something

501
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.720
that they thought could be human remains, but obviously they

502
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.160
couldn't tell because it was burned up in a fire.

503
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:48.160
So they referred all of that over to a forensic anthropologist.

504
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:50.960
This was a doctor Michael Warren, for him to do

505
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.319
his evaluations of it and see what he could figure out.

506
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.759
Because the truth is, a murder investigation with no body

507
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.759
is always going to be a problem. So they were

508
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.640
going to do anything that they could to prove that

509
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:05.240
Seth may have been there in that fire, if he

510
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.640
even was. But they also at the same time wanted

511
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.000
to locate those missing paint cans that were believed to

512
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.440
be holding Seth's charred remains, had he actually been cremated

513
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.759
in that fireplace. But I'm gonna just get to the

514
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.119
point here and tell you this. Police now jumped in

515
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.440
full throttle on these three teens at the station, and

516
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.960
they now point blank stated they hammered them with the facts,

517
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:31.640
called bullshit on their stories, and they got real tough

518
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:35.000
with them, so much so they actually have different interview

519
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.400
rooms at the police station. Okay, they have a room

520
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:39.400
what's called a soft room, that's the room that these

521
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:41.880
teens were interviewed in with their mother. Okay, there's a

522
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.160
soft couch. It's relaxing. They sat next to their mom.

523
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:49.599
It's a very it's a more comfortable environment. When they

524
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:51.920
jump back in and start pressing these teens, they didn't

525
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.160
go back in that room. They also didn't have their

526
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.440
mama sitting there. They brought them into what they call

527
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.720
the hard room. It's a different room. It looks like

528
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.119
the the one, except there's no couch. It's just one

529
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:05.720
chair in the corner of the room, very uncomfortable chair,

530
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:07.920
by the way, and then the detective seat which they

531
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.960
put right in front of that person and just sit

532
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.519
very close proximity to put the pressure on them. So

533
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:17.839
when they start hammering these teens, I'm gonna tell you something. Kyle,

534
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.799
the one who originally had told his mom that he

535
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.559
saw something happen, the one that was willing to talk

536
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:28.720
to the police, he broke first. The boy broke first,

537
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:34.960
and he confessed to everything, everything, and in a nutshell.

538
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:39.599
This murder was not by chance. This was not a

539
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:44.240
spur of the moment thing. While he did continue to

540
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.960
try to minimize his culpability or his drive to want

541
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:53.000
to participate. He couldn't deny his role point blank. What

542
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.119
he came out with was that they all had agreed

543
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.519
and devised a plan to murder fift teen year old

544
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:07.079
Seth before anything had ever happened. Matter of fact, earlier

545
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.200
that day that Seth went missing and was believed to

546
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:16.920
be murdered. Charlie Eely, Kyle Hooper, Amber Wright, Mike Bargo,

547
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:20.759
and Justin that's the guy that was Roach Sodo. We're

548
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:24.960
all just chilling out front of that trailer and casually

549
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:30.839
discussing their mutual hatred for Seth. They were just talking shit.

550
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.640
Kyle was mad at Seth for sleeping with his ex

551
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.079
girlfriend and the fact that he allegedly had beat up

552
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.319
his sister. Mike was mad as well with Seth because

553
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.799
Mike was now sleeping with sex. That was a Freudian

554
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.200
slip there, excuse me, But Mike was now mad because

555
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.079
he was sleeping with Amber, Seth's ex, and Amber had

556
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:57.119
told Mike allegedly that she had been raped by Seth.

557
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:01.720
He had raped her, not to me. Mike was now

558
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.960
also backing up his boy Kyle in his reasons for

559
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.359
disliking Seth. So there's two love triangles between a bunch

560
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:13.480
of teenagers, and that is what spawned this entire thing.

561
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:18.920
And amazingly, five people agreed to take the life of

562
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.079
Seth in that moment, and they made a simple plan

563
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:27.799
and this is it basically. On Sunday, April seventeenth, Amber

564
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:32.000
was used as bait. She was the bait to get

565
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.160
Seth to the house. They all knew that he still

566
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.240
wanted to be with Amber. They all knew that she

567
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.440
knew that, so she texted him all of those messages

568
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.640
that we read to you earlier. Charlie Eally, she willingly

569
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.960
went with Amber to go meet up with Seth, and

570
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.839
the whole plan there was that they were going to

571
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:54.680
invite him back to the house and also lower his

572
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.240
guard because it's just the girls there to kind of

573
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:04.920
help each other through all of this. So they figure

574
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.319
that out and Kyle admits, Okay, yeah, there was a

575
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.519
plan and we're gonna we were gonna kill him, and

576
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.559
that's pretty much why. Well, this now is the time

577
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.519
that Mike was located and was taking taken into custody.

578
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.440
I believe a swat team stormed the house and got him.

579
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.480
In all that jazz when Mike is brought in for questioning.

580
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:27.640
He's just fully denying the basics. Okay. First of all,

581
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.920
he denied that he was even dating Amber. I never

582
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.200
slept with Doug girl. I didn't date that girl. What

583
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.000
are you talking about. That's ridiculous. These kids are trying

584
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:37.799
to set me up or something like. It kind of

585
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.880
started like that. But there was a problem with that

586
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.480
argument because what if I told you Mike had gotten

587
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.960
Amber's initials tattooed in the upper more private area of

588
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.000
his left thigh. Do you go just tattooing anyone's initials

589
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.359
on your body if you're just friends with them and

590
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:00.960
vice versa, Why did Amber have Mike's initials tattooed on

591
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:04.119
her as well in a more private area. That kind

592
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.160
of blows that argument to shit, just so you know, well.

593
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.440
His denials would also fall flat when the people that

594
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.319
he had been visiting whenever he was arrested from their house,

595
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:20.640
he told them he had shot a kid. He just

596
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.240
said it. He had told another person that he had

597
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.119
visited in the time that they were looking for him.

598
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.079
He told that person that he had shot and he

599
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.880
had killed somebody. Mike Bargo did not have a leg

600
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.799
to stand on and they smelled his bullshit from a

601
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.720
mile away. So let's jump back into the plan now,

602
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.160
because more came to light. Kyle was in on this

603
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:45.039
the entire time, as were the rest of them, and

604
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.079
he and Mike hid in a back bedroom whenever Seth

605
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.680
was lured up to that trailer. But when Seth walked in,

606
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.440
when Charlie opened the door and Seth walked in, from

607
00:33:56.440 --> 00:34:01.400
that point forward, nothing went to plan. After all, this

608
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:03.680
is real life, y'all. It's not the movies, and murder

609
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.599
is never going to go to plan. But when Charlie

610
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:10.159
opened that door, Roach, the guy, the other guy, Sodo,

611
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.039
Roach was sitting on the couch, and it startled Seth.

612
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:18.800
He wasn't expecting him to be there because he was

613
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.760
told by the girls nobody else was going to be there.

614
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:25.079
So he immediately was alarmed by this and he started

615
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.960
to leave. He started to back out. Uh huh huh,

616
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.039
but they convinced him, no, no, no, it's all good.

617
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.239
It's all good. Roach. We didn't know he was going

618
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.400
to be here. He's just chilling and he's just hanging out.

619
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.360
I promise you you're okay. You can come in. Even

620
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.880
though just seven days prior he had been threatened and

621
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.719
there was a bullet with his name on it, and

622
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.480
this roach guy didn't like him either, he believed Amber

623
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.559
and Charlie also, just to bring up this, there was

624
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.159
another incident that nobody mentioned, but this was brought up

625
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:03.719
by another person in questioning. A few weeks before the murder,

626
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:09.159
Mike Bargo had gotten that twenty two caliber pistol as

627
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.480
trade for money that somebody owed him. Now, if you're

628
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.840
a true crime fan like I am, this might seem

629
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.800
kind of weird to you. The guy that owed Mike

630
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:22.320
the money, his name was Michael Proctor. Now if that's

631
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.599
kind of spurring up something in your mind, that's the

632
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.800
same name of the cop in the Karen Reid trial.

633
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.760
But this is not the same guy. Okay, I just

634
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.840
want to be clear on that. But that was the

635
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.000
very weapon that Mike had been speaking to Kyle's mother about,

636
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.880
and that there was a fight about not registering the

637
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.679
weapon in his name and he couldn't, he said, because

638
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:42.559
he was a felon. I hope you're following all of this.

639
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:47.639
But other people that were questioned confirmed his weapon ownership,

640
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.480
specifically two former roommates who had moved out of Charlie

641
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.559
Ealy's house just one week before Seth was murdered. Their

642
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.280
names were Megan and her boyfriend j Jeremy. Okay, these two,

643
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.360
this couple lived there and when they were interviewed by police,

644
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.679
they said that Mike was known to shoot his gun

645
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:14.679
out of the back window of Charlie's bedroom and he

646
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:18.480
would shoot at a tree from that window. I mean,

647
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:22.199
there was this absolute, just ridiculousness happening in this house.

648
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.280
The reason that they had actually moved out the week

649
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.360
before the murder was because of Mike and that pistol,

650
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:31.519
because they had gotten in a fight. This Megan girl

651
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:36.000
and Mike, and Mike threatened her with that very gun

652
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.079
and that freaked those two out. They were like, oh,

653
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.079
hell no, we're not doing this. And those two just

654
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.000
got up and left. They were smart, they got the

655
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.519
hell out of there. Well, there was another friend that

656
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.719
I have to introduce into this as well. Now I

657
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.039
hate to tell you this, but his name is Mike too.

658
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.000
There's a lot of these guys, but I'm gonna call

659
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.079
him Michael to separate. So Mike is the shooter. This

660
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.320
is Michael Sammelot Okay, And this guy was a good

661
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:03.199
friend of Seth. Now, when they spoke to him, Mike

662
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:07.440
Michael Samlot said for a fact that he was with

663
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:12.000
Seth the night that he disappeared, and that he saw

664
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:18.159
Seth texting with Amber and basically said that they were

665
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:22.519
talking about maybe getting back together with each other. Okay, now,

666
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:28.840
as that's going on. Two weeks prior to Seth's death, Mike,

667
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:33.039
Bargo and Kyle had gotten on the phone with Seth

668
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:35.360
and they were all talking shit to each other and

669
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:36.960
they were trying to set up a fight. They were

670
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:38.800
let's meet up, let's fight. We're gonna you know, duke

671
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:42.000
this out. We hate each other whatever. Well, Seth and

672
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.920
Mike Samelot said, check may bitch, we're comming, let's fight,

673
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.880
you know, doing what young young boys do well. When

674
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.280
they pulled up to the trailer, When I say pulled up,

675
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.480
I mean like rode up on their bikes. When they

676
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:56.079
went to go fight at the trailer, Charlie e Leash Traylor,

677
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:02.119
they heard a gunshot come from the trailer and it

678
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:04.960
scared the hell out of them and they were like,

679
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.000
uh no, I don't think we want to go over

680
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.320
there where gunshots are coming from. And by the way,

681
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.039
this is that original claim that Kyle had made when

682
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.199
he first started talking to detectives, when he said that

683
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.880
Seth showed up with another kid and that they were

684
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.199
wanting to fight and drawing attention and all of that.

685
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:24.920
That's what he's referencing. Okay, So Kyle was there when

686
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.119
that happened too. These are two separate incidentss and Kyle

687
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:34.800
even told investigators he watched Mike Bargo shoot at Seth

688
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:39.079
and the other Mike Michael that day. He shot at

689
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.719
them with that pistol from Charlie's bedroom window. So he

690
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.320
was shooting at these people, this kid before he ever

691
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.000
actually shot him. So when he shot out at him,

692
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:50.800
he says, oh, he was just trying to scare them.

693
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.320
I don't know about you guys, but I don't shoot

694
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:53.880
at people to scare them. If I'm ever going to

695
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.000
shoot at someone, it's because I'm trying to defend my life,

696
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:00.920
not try to scare them. So Mike Samlot gives more

697
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:03.960
information in an interview to police and gave more insight

698
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.320
because he said, look, I saw Seth texting Amber the

699
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.800
night of the murder or the night that he disappeared,

700
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.039
and he said, I told him, dude, she is just

701
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.000
bad news. Bro, you need to let that go. But

702
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.199
Seth still texted with her, and they said, well, what

703
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.840
time did he leave from y'all hanging out and that.

704
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.639
Michael Samelott said it was around nine to fifteen pm. Well,

705
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.519
if you're following this, that's shortly after those text messages

706
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.280
that I told you started at eight twelve pm. That's

707
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.840
whenever Amber had started texting him saying all the shit

708
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.960
about hey, come meet me. So the police were starting

709
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.000
to piece all of this together. Well, the next day,

710
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.159
when Seth was missing and his buddy Mike Samelott, Michael

711
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.480
couldn't find him. He went out looking for Seth. My god,

712
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.679
you know, where's my friend? And he even said, I

713
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.480
went by Charlie's trailer, but nobody was home. He went

714
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:56.679
around the back of the trailer to try to see

715
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:58.960
if anybody was back there. He said, I saw a

716
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.639
fire pit and then paint like all over the ground,

717
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.039
but Seth wasn't there. So just that little bit of

718
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.079
talking to some of these kids in the neighborhood started

719
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.760
piecing all of this together. So let's go back to

720
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.400
the plan some more. When the girls were almost back

721
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.960
at the trailer okay, and they had Seth with them.

722
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:22.760
Amber was supposed to text Mike, Bargo and Kyle this

723
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:24.719
is the plan that they made. She was supposed to

724
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.400
text them on the slick so that they could get ready,

725
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.199
to let them know, hey, he's about to come into

726
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:34.360
the trailer. Once inside of the house, the plan was

727
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.280
for Roach to hit Seth over the head with that

728
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.400
piece of wood. But Amber forgot to send the text

729
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.480
message that said get ready. Because kids are stupid and

730
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.840
they can't do anything and follow a plan, especially ones

731
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:48.480
that act like this. She forgot to send the text,

732
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.159
so whenever Seth knocked on the door and came in,

733
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.079
Roach wasn't ready to surprise attacking. Seth already saw him,

734
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.960
so he just remained seated on the couch. Now, Mike

735
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.719
and Kyle were in the back bedroom debating at that

736
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.320
very moment that this poor kid stepped foot into that

737
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.599
trailer thinking that he was about to make up with

738
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.480
the girl that he felt like he was in love

739
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.760
with that lured him over to this house. When he

740
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:16.000
stepped into that trailer, he sealed his death certificate in

741
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.880
that moment. Because Mike and Kyle were debating, they were

742
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.639
hiding in a back bedroom and they were debating whether

743
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.800
they should kill Seth in the living room or somewhere else,

744
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:30.440
and that kid was none the wiser. But Kyle was

745
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.079
peeking through the door and he could see Seth go

746
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.760
and sit down in the chair in the living room.

747
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.239
And Seth had no idea that those two were in

748
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.599
the back of the trailer. He was very nervous about

749
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.440
Roach being there because he thought Roach might try to

750
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.000
hurt him, but he still sat down because the girls

751
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.079
convinced him it was okay. And in that moment, that's

752
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.239
whenever Kyle came busting out of that back room. He

753
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.440
took the piece of wood and he smoked Seth over

754
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:01.719
the head with it in a surprise attack. Whenever Seth

755
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:04.639
jumps up and he's like, oh my god, you know

756
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:06.840
what's going on here? And he jumps up, he's injured,

757
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:11.199
he's grabbing his head. That's whenever Mike comes running right

758
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.679
behind him with the gun and he just starts unloading

759
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:18.639
bullets into this fifteen year old kid. And in a

760
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:23.079
scramble to get away from this absolute nightmare ambush, he

761
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.800
ran towards the kitchen, but he was shot and he

762
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.840
realized that he was stuck, you know, he surrounded, so

763
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.119
he turned. He knew that he was gonna die if

764
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.719
he stayed in there, and he made a bolt for

765
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.239
it through that front door. It was now or another.

766
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.480
I gotta do what I gotta do, so he bolted

767
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.039
out of that front door. He is injured, he is shot,

768
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.480
and he is trying to escape on foot. But it

769
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.880
wouldn't happen because that's when Roach jumped up off of

770
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:51.519
the couch, went through that front door, chased that shot

771
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:56.280
kid down and tackled him in the front yard, and

772
00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:00.239
Mike Bargo he was right behind him. Right after he

773
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.239
was tackled to the ground, mind you, suffering gunshot wounds.

774
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.400
Mike then came over and started shooting him again in

775
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:10.000
the front yard, right there for everyone and their mama

776
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.559
to see. Then Mike yells for Kyle, who comes out

777
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:18.440
of the house, and those three pick up seth mortally

778
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.880
wounded and they all carry him back into the trailer.

779
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.960
They carried him back into the very place he was

780
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.679
trying to escape from. He couldn't really fight back at

781
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.119
this point because he's bleeding out and he shot multiple times.

782
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.039
But Mike, Mike was very clear. He was the ringleader

783
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.719
here on this one, very clear. He said, I want

784
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.239
him alive. I want him to know that it's me

785
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.000
that's killing him. Put him in the bathtub, and they did.

786
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:48.159
They brought him into the bathroom and they dropped him

787
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:53.360
down in the bathtub. In that moment, he was shot

788
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.840
again by Mike Bargo multiple times, and he was injured

789
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.360
in the head already because he'd been hit over the head,

790
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.880
and that kid lay in that tub, shot multiple times,

791
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.480
and Mike Bargo was punching him, talking shit to him,

792
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:14.559
mocking him, letting him know, I'm killing you, motherfucker. It's me.

793
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.280
Look at me, I'm killing you. So during that time,

794
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:24.119
while they're having that in the bathroom, Kyle roach Amber

795
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:27.320
and Charlie Well, they were busy cleaning up the blood

796
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:29.480
in the kitchen and in the living room with that

797
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:33.400
bleach that they had gotten already by the way. They're

798
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.760
busy cleaning up. But that's whenever they heard those extra

799
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.079
gunshots that rang out from the bathroom. So Kyle jumps

800
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:42.239
up and he runs in there, and that's when he realized,

801
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.760
oh shit, you're shooting him again. But he starts freaking

802
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.960
out and Kyle's like, stop shooting him, stop shooting him,

803
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:50.000
but not please don't get this twisted, not to spare

804
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:54.880
poor Seth. No, absolutely not. It's because he was worried

805
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.760
that the neighbors might be alerted by all of the

806
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.119
gunshots going out going off in the train. It wasn't

807
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.400
about anything nice. It was just because we might get

808
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:05.760
caught if you don't stop unloading bullets into this kid.

809
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:11.159
And this is when it gets even darker. This gets

810
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:15.400
even darker. I need you to remember, these are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,

811
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:20.199
and eighteen year olds doing this. But Mike Bargo decided

812
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:25.199
it was time to break Seth's kneecaps, to physically break

813
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:31.079
his legs backwards. He did this to be evil, but

814
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.679
also because he wanted him to bend up easier into

815
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.280
a sleeping bag that he had gotten to put this

816
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:41.840
body in. So I can't tell you at that point,

817
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.440
No one really can whether Seth was still conscious alive.

818
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:48.559
We don't know. I always err on the side of

819
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:53.360
caution and say he probably was still with it, okay,

820
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.440
because why would you continue to beat a dead body

821
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:57.320
if your whole goal was just to get over on him.

822
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.480
I just don't buy that. But he broke that boy's

823
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.960
kneecaps and then bent him up to put him in

824
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.480
the sleeping bag. Now, if that's not enough, he also

825
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.199
took pliers and he pulled every tooth out of that

826
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:16.840
boy's head. Sure did, pulled all of his teeth out.

827
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.679
And that's when Mike and Roach put Seth's body into

828
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.559
a sleeping bag, and then they all carried him out

829
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:29.960
to the fire pit in the backyard. Now, these kids

830
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.519
that have all been crying, they're traumatized, they're scared of Mike.

831
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.280
They don't know what to do. They've been influenced, they've

832
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:44.320
been led by this evil guy. What do traumatized kids

833
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:47.760
do in that instance? Because I can tell you what

834
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.320
happened in this very case. They were so traumatized by

835
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.800
all of the events that they had just done that

836
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.559
they all sat around the fire that night and they

837
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.280
had a party. They were drinking, they were laughing, they

838
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.039
were talking, and they were telling stories. Of course, the

839
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:08.599
entire time they were tending and stoking the fire and

840
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:14.519
sitting around the body that they were cremating together. Yes,

841
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:18.760
sure did, having a good old time with a human

842
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:25.159
being burning for hours in front of them. But around

843
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.840
two thirty that morning, after the body's been burning for

844
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.599
a long time, Hamber and Mike decided, you know, the

845
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.679
two that aren't dating and have tattooed each other's you know, initials,

846
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.039
they slipped off to bed. They got tired about two thirty.

847
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.639
It's beent a long night murdering someone, and so Kyle

848
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.519
decided he'd stay out there and he maintained and he

849
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.679
looked after the fire for the rest of the night.

850
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.519
The next morning, which would have been a Monday, they

851
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.360
decided as a team that they were going to empty

852
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:57.400
the paint cans and shovel Seth's charred remains into these

853
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.480
paint cans. And that's whenever the rock quarry comes into

854
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.280
play here, because they decided that they were going to

855
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:06.719
go and dump all of these remains in the nearby

856
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.480
rock quarry in Okalla. Now, it was determined that Mike

857
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:13.960
was the one who knew about this because he used

858
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:16.000
to go there with an ex girlfriend. Okay, he was

859
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:19.280
familiar with the place. But they chose that spot because

860
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.679
it was in a wooded area and it was somewhat

861
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.119
inaccessible by a car, meaning that it wouldn't be considered

862
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:28.880
a you know, like a easy roadway to get to

863
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.440
So by the time that they all loaded up and

864
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:39.119
carried these buckets out there, by the time they came back,

865
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:42.440
that's whenever Seth had already been reported missing. Is remember

866
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:46.239
it's the next day, and Kyle's mom would then confront

867
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.679
him after he returned from the quarry unknown to her,

868
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:50.400
but she would confront him and say what's going on?

869
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.599
And then you know from there that they ended up

870
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:57.840
at the police station. So Mike Bargo decides at that

871
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.239
point because he now realizes, oh shit, they know he's

872
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.639
missing and I'm the one who shot him, he decides

873
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.679
that he's going to go on the run, and so

874
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.920
Kyle gave him some money before. Aren't you ready for this?

875
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:15.280
Before Kyle and Amber's step dad, Yes, thirty something year

876
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:20.599
old man shows up and he uh decides that he

877
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.960
will drive Kyle and drop him off at home, and

878
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:27.719
then he agreed to take Mike Bargo and drive him

879
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:33.159
over to like an ex girlfriend's dad's house in Stark, Florida.

880
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:36.360
How the fuck do we now live in a world

881
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.920
where stepparents who by the way, he knew that they

882
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.480
said they had killed someone. He's just gonna show up

883
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:43.800
and say, all right, well I'll give you a ride,

884
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.480
no problem. What world are we living in right now? Guys, like,

885
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.760
what is happening here? So, based on this confession and

886
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:56.400
the inconsistency of inconsistencies in the girls stories that they

887
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:02.159
had told, Kyle and Mike were played under arrest. But

888
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:06.119
wait a minute, was that stepdad or the ex stepdad?

889
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.679
Was he really in the middle of all of this

890
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.840
or was he just giving a ride? Okay, because this

891
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.360
is a true question to be pondered, stand by for

892
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.400
one second and I will answer that question. But I

893
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.159
need to tell you this before they got to the

894
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.159
bottom of that Amber's stories. Now she's being pelted by

895
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.159
the detectives and her stories would now continue to shift.

896
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:31.840
Basically three total interviews overall, and three main things she

897
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.719
was caught lying about. The first one was she said, oh,

898
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.559
Seth just showed up at the house unexpectedly. But then

899
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:41.960
it turns out, okay, when she found out her brother

900
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.320
had already confessed and told like a lot of this,

901
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.480
she said, Okay, yeah, I did lure him there, Okay,

902
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:48.800
but I didn't know they were going to kill him. Okay.

903
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.880
So she's digressing the whole time. She's trying to minimize, minimize.

904
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.360
The second thing was she said that she and Charlie

905
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.239
e Lee that they were terrified when violence erupted because

906
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:58.480
they didn't know that was going to happen, and they

907
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.840
stayed in the bedroom and the next morning and that's

908
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.639
whenever they found the smell of bleach. But eventually she

909
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:06.400
got caught up in her lies and said, Okay, yeah,

910
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.440
I was there whenever he was attacked. I saw him

911
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:11.280
get hit over the head by my brother. I saw

912
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:13.480
Mike shoot him. Oh yeah. And I also helped clean

913
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.199
blood off of the door, and also helped to make

914
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.119
sure that the fire stayed burning when we put my

915
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.079
ex boyfriend's body on it. And also she lied about

916
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:26.119
the nature of the quote unquote jump because she denied

917
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:29.079
that she was setting him up for that. But then

918
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:33.920
her statements, obviously with those text messages where she explicitly stated,

919
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:36.000
I'm not setting you up, seth I would never do

920
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:37.760
that to you. I'm not going to get you jumped,

921
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.119
flat outlie. You can't explain all of that, honey. Sorry.

922
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.480
Charlie Ely's story also then started to fall apart. It

923
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:49.119
began to shift So what the detectives did here was

924
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.599
they put him all in a room together, minus Mike

925
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.199
and Roach. They are not in this room, okay, they

926
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:58.000
wanted to see unattended, what would happen if these teenagers

927
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.119
were put in a room together. So it's Amber, her brother, Kyle,

928
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:05.559
and Charlie who owned the trailer. And I'm gonna play

929
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.239
you a portion real quick of that audio that was

930
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.199
collected from that room of them talking to one another,

931
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.960
and they now know, okay, that their stories have all

932
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:24.039
fallen apart. And those meek, mild, respectful, crying young teenagers

933
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:26.800
who were just scared for their lives because Mike had

934
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.960
just gone postal right, and they just went along with it.

935
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.679
I mean, people are gonna fucking hate us for this.

936
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:34.719
People that don't even know what they're going to be

937
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.079
looking for us if we get out of this. Why

938
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:43.440
there's a fucking fifteen year old kid murdered behind Mars.

939
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.840
You honestly think people want to be around Do you

940
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:50.760
think people think there's those kind.

941
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:51.920
Of people are supposed to be here?

942
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:54.880
Yeah, but it's not our fault.

943
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:57.559
Hell, I don't even like them fucking kind of people,

944
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.119
And on load of them now don't you.

945
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.559
I didn't even do anything. Yeah, I didn't want.

946
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:09.000
None of this happened really the way we just got

947
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:15.199
stupid and fell into Mike's trap. Yeah, exactly like always,

948
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:17.199
because he knows he can talk me into anything.

949
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:18.960
He knows he can.

950
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.280
How do you tell somebody you love them and you

951
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.599
never leave them or hurt them, and then you do this,

952
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.280
and then on top of that, you said, if you're

953
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.239
telling you what I'm gonna tell you too, will never

954
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:35.000
happened if it weren't or.

955
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.800
Mike, what do you think, guys? What do you think

956
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:42.480
about that? Amber's true colors for sure were shining through.

957
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:46.119
You can see that there's manipulation through this whole thing

958
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.000
where everyone's they're all now just trying to put the

959
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:55.480
fault on Mike and their lack of understanding of what

960
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:57.599
is happening here. It's not their lack of understanding, their

961
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:00.639
lack of care and what is going on here is

962
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.320
so ridiculous. That is so bruh. I'm not gonna get

963
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:06.559
out till I'm twenty. Are you serious right now? Are

964
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.559
you that dense? But you can just see the facade

965
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.639
all fall apart now when they were all told y'all

966
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.960
are all being arrested and you're all being charged with

967
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:21.599
murder of this boy. There was no real reaction from

968
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.280
any of them. It wasn't like, holy shit, oor oh

969
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:25.280
my god. It was nothing.

970
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:25.639
Really.

971
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.960
They just whatever, it's another day. I'll get out someday soon.

972
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:32.079
They did not think it was a big deal. Only

973
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:37.039
Charlie began to cry and said that she wanted her mommy.

974
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:41.519
That's a direct quote. So all Amber said was for

975
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:44.199
how long? You know? How long am I going to

976
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:46.000
be locked up? It looks like I'm gonna be fucking

977
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:49.519
twenty when I get out. That is the caliber of

978
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:52.199
evil that we're dealing with here. I don't care how

979
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:56.320
young they are. Who thinks like that at that age. So,

980
00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:01.559
as you can imagine, everyone's arrested, Mike, Kyle, Amber, Charlie, Roach,

981
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:07.760
and also the stepdad, James Havens. Okay, why well he

982
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:11.119
didn't just give a ride. Okay, when it's all said

983
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:13.639
and done, he was charged with accessory after the fact

984
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:19.440
because he did knowingly help those kids dispose of Seth's body.

985
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:24.199
He knew they were transporting a body. Why he wasn't

986
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.599
there for the murder per se? He was there before

987
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:28.840
the murder happened, and heard them talking about it, and

988
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.920
then he left because that's what adults do. They just

989
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:33.719
leave a conversation when kids are talking about murdering somebody,

990
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:35.679
instead of saying, hey, that's a bad idea, don't do that.

991
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.440
Murders wrong. Nah, he just got uncomfortable, he said, and

992
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:41.880
he left. But afterwards he came and gave advice on

993
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:45.079
how to dispose of him, how to get away with it. Plus,

994
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.960
remember that detective asked that question, how did he carry

995
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.239
those heavy, heavy buckets? How did he do that? Well,

996
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:52.960
we now know it's because there was multiple of them

997
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.880
carrying the buckets. But guys, it was too far to

998
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.440
carry those buckets. And there's your answer. The stepdad drove

999
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:03.920
them to the quarry to dump the remains. He was

1000
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.599
absolutely a part of this. Now, to seal the deal,

1001
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.880
I'm gonna let you know this. The initial search of

1002
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:12.360
the quarry, they were able. Detectives were able to find

1003
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:17.079
shoe impressions, multiple people were there, and circular bucket rings

1004
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.559
still in this sand where they had set down these

1005
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.920
buckets as they got tired because they were very heavy.

1006
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.360
And it was along the path that led straight back

1007
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:28.719
to the pond. In the quarry area, they also found

1008
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:32.199
a bucket and one of those buckets had a plastic

1009
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:35.480
bag attached to it floating in the water. And it

1010
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.519
turns out that was a bucket that they had thrown

1011
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:40.480
in and it had broken on the way down. It

1012
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:46.519
went on the way down. Seth's remains were scattered amongst

1013
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:51.039
the side of that area. That's how they treated this,

1014
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:53.440
this boy's remains. It's bad enough they burned him, then

1015
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:55.679
they just kind of chunk him over a ledge and

1016
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:59.519
he scatters. I mean, it's just sick. It's almost hard

1017
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.400
to ima that they would do this. The police were

1018
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:05.039
able to find the scrape marks that led down to

1019
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.119
the water. It was like in this moss covered area

1020
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:11.199
over some lime rock. So where they saw that, they

1021
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.599
sent a dive team down into the quarry. When the

1022
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:17.320
dive team went down, they found a five gallon bucket.

1023
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.960
They found a lid on the rock wall, and along

1024
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.119
the water way they found two more five gallon buckets

1025
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:27.239
and those buckets were also tied down. They were attached

1026
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:31.760
to cinder blocks by wires and cables. Someone didn't want

1027
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:38.239
this found, and pieces of Seth's charred remains were found

1028
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.599
in the buckets. They were also found at the bottom

1029
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.840
of the water and they were also found scattered on

1030
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.119
the rock wall near the location where that bucket lid

1031
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:51.519
was found. DNA testing was done. They used DNA from

1032
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.119
the parents to decide whether this is a match or not,

1033
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:58.559
and absolutely it was shown that that those remains were

1034
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:03.840
that of a biological child of Seth Jackson's parents. The

1035
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:07.480
forensic anthropologist, doctor Michael Warren, he took those remains that

1036
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:09.800
were left and he did estimate that you know, it's

1037
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:12.119
thirteen to eighteen year old. But he also was able

1038
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:14.880
to remove one of the projectiles that this hadn't burned

1039
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.119
up all the way. There was pieces of him still there.

1040
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.639
And he was able to find a projectile still embedded

1041
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:26.719
in soft tissue next to three lumbar vertebrae in the body.

1042
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.719
And guess what that projectile was a twenty two caliber bullet,

1043
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:34.440
the one with the same characteristics the six grooves with

1044
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:37.960
a right twist that were found to come from Bargo's

1045
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:42.920
twenty two caliber handgun. Now, the medical examiner, his name

1046
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.079
was doctor Kyle Shaw. He was able to find in

1047
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.440
these pieces of Seth bright dots that were consistent with

1048
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:54.440
a projectile or a bullet impacting, and this was one

1049
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.920
an X ray of his skull and the fragments of

1050
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:03.280
the skull also combined with those fragments or those bullets

1051
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.400
that were found in the lumbar. He obviously ruled this

1052
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:11.079
homicide a death by gunshot wounds and blunt force trauma. Overall,

1053
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:14.960
it's believed that he was shot eight times, eight separate times.

1054
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.039
That kid was shot. Now Mike Bargo, who had said

1055
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:19.639
he had nothing to do with this and wasn't a

1056
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:21.639
part of it at one point, well, it's kind of

1057
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:25.639
weird because his DNA was found in blood evidence that

1058
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.000
was at the scene, on a bracelet, on a pair

1059
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:31.920
of jeans, and on three T shirts. The crime scene

1060
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.760
investigators also found blood evidence in the bathroom floor, the

1061
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:39.360
kitchen floor, the living room floor, the bathroom wall, and

1062
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:43.800
the kitchen ceiling of the trailer, and they also found

1063
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.880
Charlie Ealy's DNA in a mixture of the blood found

1064
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:51.039
in the bathroom. They also found Kyle's and Seth's DNA

1065
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:53.400
in a mixture in the living room, and then they

1066
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:57.320
found more mixtures in the kitchen ceiling of their DNA

1067
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:00.719
and all of that so based on everything here, you

1068
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:04.039
can it paint you a pretty clear picture of what happened.

1069
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:07.000
But guess what, stupid people are always going to be stupid.

1070
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.679
Because Mike, even though he was now arrested and feigning,

1071
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:14.280
you know that this wasn't him, he just couldn't shut

1072
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.079
the fuck up even when he went behind bars. When

1073
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:18.639
he went to jail, you know, he had to have

1074
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:20.840
that bravado, he had to be the badass that he

1075
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:23.760
thought he was, and so he openly told another inmate

1076
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:26.159
in the holding cell with him. This inmate's name was

1077
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.880
William Fuckler. By the way, he told him, look, I

1078
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.320
killed a kid who raped my girlfriend. The thing was

1079
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:34.480
you can say, oh, well, that's a jailhouse informant. He

1080
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:36.280
just was, you know, probably came forward and said that

1081
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.280
so that he could get some kind of deal. False,

1082
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.880
because guess what he was talking about it so openly

1083
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:45.400
that the corrections officer working that day overheard the conversation

1084
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:48.920
and he documented it as well. That's how flagrant this

1085
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.679
guy Mike was with just saying what he would what

1086
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:54.159
he did. But then again when they went to trial,

1087
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:58.000
now Mike would blame everything basically on Kyle and the others.

1088
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.440
He said he didn't date Amber. Kyle was a drug

1089
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:04.519
addict who had actually beat him up the day of

1090
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:08.800
the murder, and that's why he left. Whatever dude he

1091
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.880
was accusing the brother Kyle of being a meth addict. Guys,

1092
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.679
this dude was like two bucks eighty almost three hundred pounds.

1093
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:16.639
Have you ever seen a three hundred pounds meth head

1094
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:21.159
that's supposedly using meth all day long? I'll wait, no,

1095
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:25.199
you don't. All right, overall, all of these kids were

1096
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:28.840
indicted as adults. The prosecutors were not playing games. They

1097
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:31.480
were not extending any plea deals. They either wanted the

1098
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:33.960
death penalty or life in prison for them all because

1099
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:38.239
this was so calculated planned and could have been stopped,

1100
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:41.960
but they didn't want to. Now, Amber was found to

1101
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:47.159
be too young for the death penalty, but Michael, well

1102
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:51.960
he was not. Mister Bargo wasn't. So what ended up happening.

1103
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:56.760
Michael Bargo, Junior was sentenced to death. He was found

1104
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:58.920
guilty and he is now on death row at Union

1105
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.840
Correctional Institute. As the last that I researched this of

1106
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.719
his location. Now y'all know this happens all too often.

1107
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:08.000
So I'm going to let you know that was in

1108
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.079
twenty thirteen that he was sentenced to death. Well, that

1109
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:15.679
was actually vacated that judgment, and the reasoning was because

1110
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:19.480
of it wasn't a unanimous jury, so they took away

1111
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:21.480
the death penalty. Imagine how the parents must have felt

1112
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:26.719
on that one. But he was resentenced again in twenty nineteen,

1113
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:31.000
and he got a unanimous jury recommendation that time, and

1114
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:33.199
he was resentenced to the death penalty. So he may

1115
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:35.840
have thought he won, but he didn't. Now Amber Wright

1116
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.719
Seth's ex girlfriend that lured him there. She was sentenced

1117
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:43.199
to life in prison with the eligibility for judicial review

1118
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:47.920
after twenty five years, and she, as of my last research,

1119
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:52.559
is incarcerated at Homestead Correctional Institution. Now again, guess what

1120
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:58.480
else her life sentence was overturned? Why on a technicality

1121
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:02.119
because in between those different interviews that she did, they

1122
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:05.920
found that she wasn't read her miranda rights during one

1123
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.000
of those, so she got a new trial as well.

1124
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:12.119
I cannot imagine what these parents went through of this

1125
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.920
of Seth. That everybody that seemed to be convicted so

1126
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.440
far was it was being overturned. Can you imagine how

1127
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:20.199
that must have felt. Well, she was retried in twenty sixteen.

1128
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.440
She was found guilty again and she was sentenced under

1129
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:28.039
the revised juvenile laws. Her brother, Kyle Well, he was

1130
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:31.480
given life in prison with the eligibility for judicial review

1131
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:34.559
after twenty five years as well. Now, because he was

1132
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:36.440
a juvenile at the time of the crime, he was

1133
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:40.000
also resentenced and allowed the possibility of parole when at

1134
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:43.480
first he was not now roach his name was Justin Sodo.

1135
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:47.320
He was given life in prison without the possibility of parole.

1136
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.639
He actually pled guilty in twenty twelve because he wanted

1137
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:55.400
to avoid a potential death sentence on this. And then

1138
01:03:55.719 --> 01:04:00.320
this is where my mind gets blown. How small this

1139
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.559
world is. And I have to share this with you.

1140
01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:08.320
James Havens, Okay, that's the stepdad. He did plead guilty

1141
01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:10.880
to accessory after the fact of first degree murder. He

1142
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.320
was sentenced in eighteen to ten years and then he

1143
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:18.960
was given fifteen years probation. Okay, that's what he got.

1144
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:21.440
But I have to tell you something about Charlie Ely,

1145
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:26.079
the girl who owned the trailer. She was sentenced to

1146
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:31.320
life in prison, as were these other ones. But guess

1147
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:38.000
what she appealed. She appealed her sentence. Her argument was

1148
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:42.039
that she had ineffective counsel and she got life in prison.

1149
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:46.960
She got a new attorney all and that new attorney

1150
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:52.400
filed this appeal successfully. Charlie Ealy was re sentenced to

1151
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:55.800
ten years in prison, which by then was time served.

1152
01:04:56.320 --> 01:05:00.960
In twenty twenty, and she was released from prison her

1153
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:04.280
original conviction. The federal courts threw it out. They agreed

1154
01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:07.519
about the ineffective counsel for whatever reason. She pled guilty

1155
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:09.960
to the lesser charge of second degree murder and was

1156
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:13.360
immediately released. But this is where the small world comes in.

1157
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.719
You want to know what that attorney's name is that

1158
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.760
got her out of prison. Does the name jose Biez

1159
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.000
ring a bell with you? If you are a true

1160
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:29.880
crime junkie like I am, you recognize that name. That

1161
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:35.239
is who had Casey Anthony acquitted for the murder of

1162
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:39.719
her child. Think about that if I ever get in trouble.

1163
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:42.880
I'm telling you now, Jose Biaz is getting a phone

1164
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.840
call from me. That dude must have it going on.

1165
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:48.280
I cannot but what a small world. But Charlie e Lee,

1166
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:51.480
she's out done. Even though she was a full part

1167
01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:55.599
of that trial, and that case, the only person who

1168
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:58.039
showed any sort of emotion during that trial. I want

1169
01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:02.199
you to know, head down, obviously in distress, crying. Was

1170
01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:05.280
it the girls? Was it Amber? Was it Charlton? No?

1171
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:06.599
Was not.

1172
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:10.800
Amber is actually still stoic to this day about it.

1173
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:14.039
Not one tear. You don't see a tear shed with her.

1174
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.679
She has dead eyes. I'm unimpressed by her. It was

1175
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:20.360
her brother, Kyle that was the one that showed the

1176
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:22.039
most remorse, the one that felt like he had to

1177
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:24.280
tell police, even though he kind of lied through it,

1178
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.800
the initial one that said I'm gonna go tell And

1179
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.920
while they all discussed me, While they all discussed me,

1180
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:34.639
I can't help but feel like the biggest coward of

1181
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them all was the one who made the most noise.

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That Michael Bargo. What we heard here today, y'all, It

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wasn't a criminal mastermind at work. It also was not

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a street legend in the making like I think he's thought.

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This was a masterclass on how ego plus stupidity will

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always equal consequences. These kids lied, they lied again, and

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then they lied about lying, and the whole time as

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the walls were closing, in on them. Every one of

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them was thinking, Yep, we got this one in the bag.

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Our stories line up. Well, I'm sorry, guys, because where

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I sit today, it doesn't seem like y'all had. It

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doesn't seem like you were as good as you thought.

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You don't outsmart investigators by repeating the same weak story

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five different ways. You don't erase digital footprints by pretending

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that they aren't there. And you definitely don't build a

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tough guy reputation wanting to be a thug, talking all

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that mad shit back and forth on the phone, getting

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teardrop tattoos on your face, but then you fold the

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second that pressure is applied and you run away like

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a toddler from what you've done. Michael Bargo couldn't even

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stand tall and take the charges on the chin. He

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ran away, And from where I sit, it is so

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hard for you to play this epic villain when you

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were in an all out sprinting panic as you tried

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to escape what you had done, and all of that hype,

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all of that fake bravado ended within forty eight hours

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of him committing his first crime. And yes, just now,

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if you were like his first crime, yes, I did

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say his first crime because the dumbass didn't even have

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a warrant out for his arrest in the first case

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with that young girl. All of this I remember his

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life was over. I'm going to prison anyway, right with

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the blah blah blah, but life's over. Might as well

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kill somebody. He didn't even have a warrant. He just

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thought he did. And guess what else came to light

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and trial. No abuse and no rape was ever able

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to be confirmed to have happened to Amber at the

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hands of Seth Jackson. It was just all accusations with

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no confirmation. If this weren't all so tragic, it would

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almost be comical. Six lives destroyed because five people hyped

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each other up over a premise that never even existed.

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It wasn't real. And these morons, I'm gonna tell you,

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they deserve everything that they got because they were straight

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up out here acting like they were in the middle

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of Ocean's eleven, when in reality, all they were doing

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was acting out a scene from Domen Dummer