Aug. 19, 2025

SERIAL MURDERER: Israel Keyes Part 2

SERIAL MURDERER: Israel Keyes Part 2
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Season 7

In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ continues her account of the tragic case of Samantha Koenig, an 18-year-old barista who disappeared from Anchorage, Alaska, on February 1, 2012. KJ details the events surrounding her abduction by Israel Keyes, offering a chilling narrative of her last moments at the coffee shop and the investigative journey that ensued.

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SOURCES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkkX4L9fSg0
https://allthatsinteresting.com/samantha-koenig
https://alaskapublic.org/news/2012-12-05/police-release-detailed-account-of-koenig-murder

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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evil many feel they are unspeakable.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended,

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then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all,

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it's kJ You're back for another episode of Unspeakable. Are

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you're ready for your Israel Keys Part two episode? Because

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I am, and I've got it going on for you.

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But before I do that, I've got some shout outs

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I need to do for my new crime family members.

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And we're going to start in Goshen, Indiana. I believe

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it's Goshen, it could be Goshen. What do you think, Jim,

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do you think Goshen or Goshen.

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Goshen.

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We're going with Goshen gosh in Indiana and that is

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where Natty lives. So hello, Natty, thank you so much

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for joining. I'm thrilled to have you, and I hope

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things are going great in your neck of the woods.

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And then right here in my backyard in Albany, Louisiana,

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which is just a few exits down the road, is

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miss Ashley Freeman. And Ashley, are you the Ashley that

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I taught, because I did teach Nashley Freeman back in

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the day, and I'm pretty sure.

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That might be you.

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Well, thank you for joining, and I'm glad to hear

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your name and to see your name on my paperwork,

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and so thank you for joining and supporting my dreams.

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This is amazing. So this is a part two.

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Let me say that real quick before you listen to

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this one. Make sure you go back and listen to

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part one before I jump into part two. And I

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also want to let all my Patreon members know that

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there is going to be a T shirt special, a

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look for that special pricing on there because I think

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they're cute and I want to give you that special deal.

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So we left off last week with a man named

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Israel Keys in custody and he was believed to be

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the person responsible for the whereabouts of missing eighteen year

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old Samantha Koenig. Now, she had been abducted from that

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roadside coffee shop, as you remember, So her daddy had

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gone and he deposited five thousand dollars as part of

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the ransom note demand for her safe return, and he

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put that five grand into the account because there was

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a photo of Samantha near a recent newspaper and they

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were all in that same photo, which was a proof

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of life photo, which compelled him to go do that.

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He wanted to get her back safe and sound. But

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Samantha had been missing for weeks at this point.

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It wasn't like the next day or anything. But hope

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was still.

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Strong that she would be returned and that she would

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be returned safely. The reality was, though, in the flip

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side of things, that just because he had her documents

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in his car when he was pulled over, doesn't mean

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that he actually was the one who kidnapped her. And

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so that's kind of the issue we're at right now.

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He could have stolen that car with the items in it,

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or someone could have sold him this car. I mean, hell,

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he could have found the items that truly is is

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facts that happens oftentimes that people who have connections in

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the criminal world can get items from those people, and

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so this would have to be investigated further to ensure

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that he even had further information about Samantha and her whereabouts.

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So to find this out, Israel was arrested and he

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was extradited back to Alaska. Now, before I start in

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any further, I want to address something I misspoke in

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the previous episode, but I just caught it as I

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was getting my notes together for this part too, and

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so it has to do whenever I said that he

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took some cash, whenever the suspect took some cash, whenever

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he went to the ATM the very first time to

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check her pen, but that was incorrect. I misspoke her

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balance At that first time he went to check the balance,

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it was only ninety four cents, and so money was

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not taken on that first trip.

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I said that until, like I said, just now, as

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I was going through my notes. So it doesn't really

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matter in the big scheme of things, but accuracy matters

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to me, and so I wanted to just address that

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all right now, moving on, So Israel, now dressed in

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his prison scrubs and sipping some coffee.

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He was with the FBI.

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Because they wanted to have a word with him. Now,

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truth be told, when they were interviewing him, he was

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not scary. He wasn't scary at all. He was super chill.

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This guy is relaxed, normal, He's an everyday dude. His

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criminal record, reviewing that before jumping into this investigation, his

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criminal record wasn't much to shake a stick at.

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He did have one.

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Thing really on the rap sheet, and it was for

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a DWI. Now that's huge. I'm not acting like a DWI.

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I'm not minimizing that. For the record, I have a

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good friend whose daughter was killed by a drunk driver,

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so I will never minimize the choice to drink and drive. However,

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his DWI didn't quite compare necessarily to an armed kidnapping

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ransom note, you know, hold somebody hostage style of mo.

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That level of violence just isn't the same in terms

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of motive, in the way that people operate.

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I mean, anybody can be.

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Drunk driving to take somebody against their will and go

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to the extent of holding them.

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Captive and taking a photo.

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That's really just a different, a different level, and he

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had zero zero goose egg crimes of violence and zero

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sexual criminal history. So to speak of people who take

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young girls, you would assume that they would either want

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to hurt them or they would want to rape them.

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I mean, why else would you take a young girl.

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But now, to complicate things, there was that ransom note

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that had been received. So let's stop for a second

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and let's really evaluate a ransom note. The most prominent

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one of my time, personally me at forty years old,

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would be the Jambinet Ramsey note. But the fact is

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that they work. Ransom notes flat out work. There's three

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basic elements and the re of why someone would.

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Send you one.

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Number one, they want to grab somebody's attention, obviously the

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family in this case. Number two, the ability to apply

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leverage of some sort is necessary. And then number three

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create urgency. How else are you going to compel somebody

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to come through with your demands? Now today, in twenty

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twenty five, when we talk about a ransom note, sounds

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kind of old school, you know, a ransom note sounds

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kind of old Well, maybe it does, but really they

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happen all the time, and even more now. But what

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they're called or is ransomware. I know we've all heard

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of this. Ransomware is more likely than a written note

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for ransom, but it's now the software version of it.

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Fifty nine percent of organizations are reportedly impacted by ransomware,

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and projections indicate that a ransomware attack occurs every two seconds,

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and that's like going up through the year of twenty

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thirty one. So for us to say that ransom notes

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are aren't common, they kind of are, just in a

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different way. This, though, was not ransomware. This is a

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personalized ransom note for one person in a random kidnapping,

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and that is rare.

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The situation is rare.

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And the fact that it was typed would also cause

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an issue, because I mean ransom No one oh one

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is that police want to look at the handwriting to

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evaluate that, maybe even look at the linguistics, which is

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how a person speaks and things of that nature. But

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there were definite steps here taken to hide that captor's

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identity because it was typed, and it wasn't typed on

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a computer where you could maybe get an IP address

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and then go log in and look through records and

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things stored on the computer or even things recently.

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Deleted because this was a typewriter. This is old school.

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For now, investigators are going to have to focus their

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attention on the suspect at hand, who exactly is Israel Keys.

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So I want to give you a little a few

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demographics on him. He was thirty four years old, he

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was from Alaska and flat out not interesting. There was

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nothing about him that was interesting. He didn't have a

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cool lifestyle, he didn't have a cool story. Hell, he

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didn't even drive a cool car. He just was like

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a dude. He worked for himself. He had a company

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that he named Keys Construction, which by the way, was licensed, bonded,

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and insured, so a legitimate business, not somebody who just

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says they worked themselves. Basically, it was a small handyman business.

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He did own a home. He had this quaint home

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in Anchorage. It had this blue siding with white trim.

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And he was in a dedicated relationship with his living

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girlfriend as well. So things just looked very average. He

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didn't look like somebody. He didn't have a history of

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somebody that would go to this level of kidnapping. But

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also guess what, he was a dad. He had a

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ten year old daughter of his own. He had a

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little girl. She was the product of a previous relationship,

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not his current girlfriend. But you know, this kidnapper took

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someone's daughter. This guy has a young daughter. She lived

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there at the house, so did the girlfriend. So would

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he have had time to do this? How could he

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have done this? Where is Samantha? If there's people at

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the house, if he possibly did this. So they went

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and they even spoke to his neighbors to see what

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they had to say about him.

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Police did.

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The neighbors all had nice things to say about him.

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They noted his hard work, ethic.

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And that he was just a regular joe.

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Even crazier is that when investigators were looking over the

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details of Samantha's case and Israel Key's name came into

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play and it was being discussed the DA, the district

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attorney piped up and was like, whoa wait, wait a minute,

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Israel keys Key's construction I said, yeah, he said, man,

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I hired him before.

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He was a handyman at my house. He's done work

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at my house. This guy's just.

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Run of the mill, very likable guy. He's easy going

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and in no way was he someone that madeor spidy

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senses start crawling. He I mean, everybody that had to

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deal with him was like, I don't know, man. So

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the beginning talks to Israel did not raise any red flags.

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It's like, you watch these interrogations and it's like tailgating,

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is what I would compare it to. It's you're tailgating

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at a football game with strangers. You don't know them,

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but you feel comfortable with them. And that was the

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vibe of these conversations.

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And guess what. It also wouldn't be.

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Some hard nosed interview to break down with this suspect

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who's unwilling to confess.

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No, not at all. He cooperated completely.

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And when I say cooperated completely, I mean this dude

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spilled the beans.

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He was ready to talk, and talk he did.

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He opened up almost immediately, and laughing and small talk

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were his jam. He was so casual, it's like I'm

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talking to you right now. That was until he was

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directly questioned about possible involvement in the adduction of Samantha Koenig.

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Now you can imagine that someone might be like, all right,

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you know we're getting into something serious here. Well, his

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body language immediately shifted when this started. And while he

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looked like the same man sitting there. His essence changed,

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not in that doctor Jekyl mister Hydeway, though in more

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of a let's make a deal type of way, like

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we were at a business meeting and now we're going

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to start talking negotiations. So he says, yeah, I mean,

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I'll keep talking, but before I say anything else, I

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need something.

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And what he needed was some sugar.

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Some sugar. And I don't mean he asked for some kisses.

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That's not what I'm saying. He needed a Snicker's bar,

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an Americano coffee from Starbucks, and a cigar. That's what

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he needed to go further in talking about his potential

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involvement and a kidnapping. So police obliged. They were like,

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if you're gonna give us information, then loaded up right,

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We're gonna run.

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Over to Starbucks and get what you need.

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There was hope that if he was involved, Samantha might

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still be alive, because this guy.

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Is just talk talk talk talk talk.

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But before I even go into what he said, I

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want to address something that he wanted.

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He wanted that cigar, that coffee, and a snack.

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Now I am no cigar connoisseur. By any means. I'll

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never claim to be, but I do hang out with

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people and family members who do partake in cigars. And

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whenever he said that he wanted one, it got me thinking,

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it's not all the time that the people that I

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know that smoke cigars have them. They don't have them

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all the time. They have them in situations where I

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can tell you that there's usually a pattern. Usually this

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pattern is whenever we are relaxing, we're sharing, sharing golden memories,

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big time stories, awesome fishing stories, things of that nature.

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That is when the cigars come out. And it's usually

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things that allow stories that allow for some like bravado,

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a little bit of bravado to come out of it.

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These stories are going to be shared in the group,

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and so the cigars come out to add some flare,

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some flair of like sophistication to the experience. And if

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you know someone who smokes cigars or smokes them socially

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in circumstances, I think you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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And I couldn't help but get the feeling from his

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demand that you know, he was trying to build that,

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to build this feeling of grandeur and fun in what

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he was about to share. And it may just be me,

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but it irked me when he requested those very specific things,

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because man, I watch people, I genuinely believe it or not.

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Don't say everything that I think. I know people think

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I always do, but I don't. In everyday life, I don't.

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But I do sit back and I watch people, I

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watch non verbal cues, and I'm always listening, okay, And

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this irked me before he even started speaking. Think about

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the movies. When do men smoke cigars? Typically think about

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the movies to celebrate or to represent their influence over others.

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To distinguish themselves amongst the group.

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The group al capone did, mobsters did people in large

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business negotiations do? And now Israel Keys wanted to. But

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there was something else that was odd, and that's the

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fact that Israel had been out of town according to

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documentation on a Caribbean cruise during the main timeframe of

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Samantha's disappearance. This was rock solid to y'all in writing

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with proof, rock solid.

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That this happened.

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So something that's in the back of investigators' minds, I'm

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sure is that people do say or allude to the

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fact that they were a part of things sometimes just

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for the notoriety of it.

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It's not heard of. This does happen.

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You can look in big cases and see where people

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insert themselves. So was this possibly that type of situation

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and he was kind of playing them just to see

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what he could get from it. But cigar in hand

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and coffee just a table's reach away, Israel Keys settled

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in and he began chatting with investigators. So at this point,

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I have two options as a podcaster. I could tell

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you what he did, or I can let you hear

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him in his own words.

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Okay, and I know.

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For a fact, for a one hundred percent fact, I'm

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confident that I could do his story more justice than

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he does in storytelling. But I want you to hear

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his nonchalantness in all of it. I want you to

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hear him say what he did, and pay attention to

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the emotion in his voice or the lack thereof.

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I want you to hear it yourself.

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Now, I told you what Samantha went through up until

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she was brought into the shed last episode by that suspect.

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All of that, by the way, was accurate to this point.

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That's not a guess that is what happened. And I

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know this because Israel told it. But at this moment

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in the story where I'm picking back up, a daddy

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is beside himself wanting to know where his baby girl is.

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He has begged for her to be taken care of

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via the media. That's what's happening right now. And this

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next audio is what the reality was of the care

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that she that she was under. This is Israel Keys

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explaining Samantha Koenig's last few weeks, starting with his return

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from the first ATM trip to see if the pin

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number worked after all.

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The credit or BTM stuff was done. UH got a

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glass of wine and go to some water, and she

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was she was asking me if everything was working out okay,

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and if I had got a hold of her dad,

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and if if the ATM, if I had the ATM

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card and if you know, she just asking me if

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all this stuff was going as planned and and then

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I said, yeah, it's fine. And the uh unscrewed the

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rope from the wall and cut the ties off of

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her hands, not the cable ties on her wrist, but

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the tie between him and uh had her laid down

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on the floor on the mat and took two more

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pieces of rope and put him through the cable ties hm.

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And on her hands, so her hands.

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Yeah, two separate pieces of rope on her hands. And

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then I tied knots and the ends of the rope

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and I screwed her screwed the rope down to the

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floor floor of the wall, so her arms were out HM.

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And did she ever.

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Struggle for any others or did she just let you

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do that?

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She knew? Did she knew? At that point? She said, uh,

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please don't rape me. And I but I, uh put

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my head right up to her ear, and I said,

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you knew this was coming. And she started to nod,

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and she started to cry a little bit. I said,

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you can make it easier, you can make it harder.

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And uh. She was still cooperative, but she was she

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was really scared at that point. And so after I

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had her hands screwed down, I I don't remember how

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the tire feet I think I I don't think I

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did much to tire feet. I think I just took

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about a six foot piece of nylon rope and nodded

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it around her ankles. Was she was I'm sorry?

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Was she face up?

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No, she's face down.

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And she didn't try to kick you or anything with

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her feet or anything. Not fine, okay, I'm sorry.

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And and then after I had her all tied down,

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I went up and still awake, I went in the house.

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There was a uh sh. I didn't have her gagged

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any of this time. I just told her that I

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had my scanner on and if if any neighbors reported

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any scream, you know, I was gonna be back in

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a second, and you know, she'd be sorry. And uh

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she Yeah, she never tried to scream. But I didn't

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have her gagged or anything at the time, choosing the shed,

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and but I wanted to put a gag in her

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mouth before I raked her. And so I went into

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the to the bedroom and I had a a silk handkerchief.

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It was purple.

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I wanted to pick that.

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It was something I had left over from a girlfriend

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a long time ago in Seattle. We used to tie

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each other up with them. And yeah, so I had

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that handkerchief and I took it. I took it back

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into the shed and gagged her. But it wasn't like,

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you know, she could still talk. It wasn't. I don't know,

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did you when you gigged her.

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Did you tie it around her head or did you

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stuff it in her mouth?

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No? I tied it, I wound it up, and I

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didn't stick anything else in her mouth. I just I

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don't know. It was mostly just because I wanted to

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do it, because it didn't really keep her from making

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any noise.

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You knew that this was coming. That is what he

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whispered in that eighteen year old girl's ear. You knew

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that this was coming. No, absolutely not this. You thought

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you wanted money and her daddy would give it to you,

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and he did. He did exactly what Samantha said that

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he would do eventually. But you still used her as

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a toy, as something that you could dress up and

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that you could play with, not that she's a human being,

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not that she's a girl, not that she was somebody's daughter. No,

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she was your sex slave. And to say that to her.

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This wasn't about money, okay, This was about control, and

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this was about his perverted desires. That's what this is about.

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So he then pours himself some water and he just continues,

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very matter of fact.

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I knew she was gonna she was gonna scream eventually,

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so I took thirty six inch cable tie and I

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put it around her neck and I tightened it up,

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not tight, but enough that she could feel that it

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was there. And I told her, you know, I told her,

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I said, all I have to do is pull this.

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And once I pulled it, there's no going back if

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you start screaming or if I don't like the way

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things are going. And she just kept nodding her head,

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and I took out a knife. I don't remember which knife.

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I think it might have been that big black folding

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one that I had on when they arrested me, So

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maybe it wasn't that one. I had another knife that

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keep you guys on canna find.

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But why aren't we gonna find it?

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It's I burned it in the fireplace and it's up

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in Anchorage landfill somewhere. But it wasn't very big.

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It was.

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Had about a two or three inch blade, and it

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was one of the freebie knives that Leatherman gives away with,

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like their big multi tools. I think it was actually

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a knife, and it was really sharp. That's the knife

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I had on me most of the night, But I

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think for some reason, I had that big black folding

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one and I used that to start to cut off

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her clothes. I started at for sure, I cut all

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the way down. She had on a braw cut that

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and then I cut the back of the arms. It

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was just a T shirt, I think, very T shirt, and.

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Said she had to keep her jacket as people now

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or was it.

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Just her way. I don't think she ever had her

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jacket on. I thought she.

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Put it on in the coffee kiosk. I thought you

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told her to put it on.

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Maybe she did. Yeah, I guess I did tell her

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to put it on. I remember thinking. I remember thinking

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I needed to get her tied up right away before

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she got any ideas, so I didn't want to give

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her time to put it on. But then I can

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remember thinking, if I put the ties on her hands,

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she won't be able to get her jacket on. It'll

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just be draped over and it's going to attract more

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attention when we're walking down the road. So yeah, I

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guess I did let her put it on. I told

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her to put it on, and then I put the

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cable ties on. But I think by the time she

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was in the shed, I had her I had heaters

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going in there. It was hot, and she was. Yeah,

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she was colder. I mean she was nervous or whatever, scared,

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so she was. She kept asking me to turn the

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temperature up. So it was hot in there. It was

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like eighty or ninety degrees probably.

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So you didn't you don't remember having to cut straight

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the jacket at some point.

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You think I did cut the jacket off of her.

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I took it off of her when she was I think.

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I think when I first put her in the shed

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and changed the ties on her hands, I think I

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had her take the jacket off because I feel she

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get too hot. It was it was pretty.

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Warm in there, so.

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So yeah, I took the jack jacket off. And had

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had a big black trash bag. And remember and you

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had thirty like a really big contractor's bag. And I

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was throwing everything in there. And I threw everything in

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that through every cable tie. I cut her jacket, anything

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that touched her tape, whatever, It all went in that bag,

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including like the wallet with the credit card. Like once

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I had the number scratched in the card, I didn't

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even look at it again. I threw everything in there.

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The only thing I took out of her purse was

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the cash. I didn't even take the change. There was

473
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a bunch of change and small stuff. I didn't take

474
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.799
any of that stuff out. I just threw her purse

475
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:41.440
in that big black bag and the other cash. I

476
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.960
just I think I might have even taken it in

477
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.519
the house right away. I stuck get in my backpack

478
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:50.279
that I was going to take on the trip. And yeah,

479
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:54.400
so anyway, she was on the floor and after I

480
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:57.039
cut off her shirt and her bro then I took

481
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.039
the knife and cut down each of her pant legs.

482
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:07.039
She had on like black tight black pants like stink

483
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:12.240
irispand it and and she had on her thong.

484
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:32.960
Yeah did you read profagionally or analine?

485
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:43.160
I I had some uh ky out there, and she

486
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:49.440
felt it when I put it on her, and I

487
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:56.319
think she thought I was gonna sodomize her. She started saying, oh, no,

488
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:03.880
not that. And after that, I just stood up and

489
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.599
looked at her for a while. I still had my

490
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:13.640
clothes on, and uh just watched her for a while

491
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:22.720
and was she still trying to talk to you? No, No,

492
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:28.039
she wasn't saying things. She was uh she was shaking

493
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:39.599
all of that. And then I uh took my clothes

494
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:48.240
off and put her on a condom and I raped her.

495
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:55.240
I don't know. It was a while, probably remember the

496
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.640
radio was on. I think a toush I don't know,

497
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:09.319
maybe two or three songs, and then uh, right before

498
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:14.119
I finished, I did sodom minds there and she screamed

499
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:18.440
a little bit right then, and right when she screamed,

500
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.000
I had uh. I think I pulled on the cable

501
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:24.799
time a little bit and told her to shut up.

502
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:34.880
And then after it was over, she was uh, well

503
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.480
she was I don't know. I guess you'd say she

504
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:56.880
was resigned at that point and still had uh. I

505
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:04.359
didn't have any clothes on, and she starts asking me

506
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.640
if I wasn't gonna kill her. I didn't say anything.

507
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.160
Jim, did you see what happened in Texas today?

508
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.920
Wait before you tell me that, let me tell you

509
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:20.119
what happened in New York.

510
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.079
It cannot be as crazy as the case I told

511
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:23.680
you about yesterday in Louisiana.

512
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.680
You know what, we should do a podcast about it.

513
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:28.240
And with that we did.

514
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.079
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515
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:32.079
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516
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.759
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517
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.279
even sprinkle in a few globally.

518
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520
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Simply by searching Crime War Weekly or clicking the link

521
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in the description of this podcast.

522
00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:00.039
Acting as if this wasn't planned is all just a

523
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:00.759
fucking joke.

524
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.480
Of course you didn't say anything, you coward.

525
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.679
If you did, then she would act up, and that

526
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.000
would mean you had to fight Israel.

527
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:12.719
And you didn't want that.

528
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:19.760
You wanted easy, You wanted compliant. She was scared, she

529
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.719
was shaking, and she was compliant because she had to be.

530
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:31.360
It was her last ditch effort to not send you into.

531
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:36.440
A violent spirbal And don't forget y'all. They just feet away.

532
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:41.199
That house that he went back into to get.

533
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:42.119
That purple gag.

534
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:48.599
His living girlfriend and his young daughter are asleep right there,

535
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.519
no clue of the horrors right outside, and he has

536
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.360
a daughter of his own, and he still thinks that

537
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:56.360
this is fun.

538
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.599
This is fun for him, it's pleasurable for him.

539
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.760
But he continues on, and with a chip on his shoulder,

540
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:12.719
he says he's not getting into exactly what all he

541
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.119
did as he raped her.

542
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:15.320
He's not going to get into that.

543
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.559
Oh as if, like as if that's somehow reassuring to

544
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:20.559
us or something.

545
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.440
No, that's not what it is.

546
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:27.280
He's not He's not getting into it because he's sick

547
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.159
and he knows it. He is sick and twisted, and

548
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:33.840
he doesn't want to get into it because no one

549
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:40.400
on planet Earth that's a decent human being would understand

550
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:45.039
what you're saying, nor would they have the ability or

551
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:48.119
a willingness to downplay those acts.

552
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.440
No way.

553
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.800
This wasn't to save us from the horrors of it either.

554
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.840
Please don't get this twisted when you're listening to what

555
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.239
he is saying. He's not sparing you out of some

556
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:03.079
so's of decency. This is because he wanted to keep

557
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:08.079
those details for himself. That was his treasure, That was

558
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:13.039
his and it wasn't for others. As unspeakable as that

559
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:14.559
thought is to the rest of.

560
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.800
Us, he wanted to keep it for himself.

561
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.639
But he has no issue then expressing what he did

562
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:26.079
after the rape here that is in his own words

563
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:26.559
as well.

564
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.639
I put my leather gloves on.

565
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.320
Why as you put levess on you, not crab profo,

566
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.880
because it's hard work to strangle somebody who was a

567
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:44.719
cable tay.

568
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:51.119
I knew I knew from the minute she walked out

569
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:55.760
of that coffee stand she wasn't. She wouldn't kind.

570
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:05.480
Of live, Penny, yours is decided to how you were going? Still, No, but.

571
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:15.000
After I put my gloves on, I had that little knife,

572
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.440
that little leatherman, the one that was really sharp, had

573
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:24.280
uh fallen out of my pocket when I was taking

574
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:28.400
off my pants and I was laying on the floor

575
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.280
this whole time. There wasn't any light in the shed,

576
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:43.079
just my head lamp hm, and I saw that knife

577
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:51.480
sitting there, and then I uh, after I put my

578
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:56.280
gloves on, I jumped on top of her, and I

579
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:06.119
grabbed the cable tie with my left hand and started

580
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.199
calling up as hard as I could, tightened it all

581
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:13.559
the way down. She never made so she didn't try

582
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:14.079
and struggle.

583
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.880
Off screen, she did have struggled.

584
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:23.960
She couldn't struggle much. Her legs were screwed down, but

585
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:32.920
she her arms were screwed down too with the rope.

586
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.920
So I was straddling her, and I had so much

587
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:42.119
force on the cable tie that she was her whole

588
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.039
like half from her body was lifted up off the floor.

589
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:51.159
And so yeah, even if she had been struggling.

590
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.400
I wouldn't been able to tell how long did it

591
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:56.400
take her to die?

592
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.360
It was taken. I mean, it's always it's hard to tell,

593
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:11.400
but it was taking a while, and I remember thinking,

594
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:18.400
I still have to shower, but I was still it's

595
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:23.480
gonna sound weird, but I was still really into her,

596
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:35.320
and so anyway, I'm not gonna tell all that part,

597
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.559
but I am. I stabbed her once right below her

598
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:42.239
right shoulder blade in her back.

599
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:51.599
With the letton, with that little nice yeah.

600
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:55.519
And it wasn't looking very deep going with that, but anyway,

601
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.519
she I didn't really stab her to make her die

602
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.079
faster or anything that was anything else, but.

603
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.440
I took did you stab her because you were still

604
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:09.239
attractive to ner?

605
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.679
No, I'm not gonna go into that. I took a

606
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:22.320
piece of rope that was laying there hm at this

607
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.440
point it was probably a couple of minutes, and I

608
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.639
could tell she still wasn't you know, there was still

609
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:39.119
life there, and tied it in the square knot to

610
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.280
the cable tie. And I took the rope and I

611
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:49.840
hung her off that shelf support and tied like a

612
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:56.119
half hitch had it so her head was in front

613
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:58.159
of her body was still lifted off the ground so

614
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:05.559
that there was a lot of pressure of it. And

615
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:11.199
and I finished my line and put my pants on

616
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.400
and went back into the house and to shower.

617
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.599
So what I just heard here was that he tormented

618
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.599
her before as well as after raping her. That's what

619
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.679
I just heard, for the fun of it, for the

620
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:35.880
sick pleasure of watching her suffer. He told her what

621
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:42.519
he was going to do to her. The anticipation of

622
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:48.159
Samantha knowing what was coming just was part of the

623
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:53.280
thrill that he got. And this wasn't fun anticipation. This

624
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.960
is the fear, the anticipatory fear that she now.

625
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.639
Knows what is coming. He got off on that.

626
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.440
He's stronger up like Christmas lights, just to watch the

627
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:13.039
light fade. He never had intentions of her living. You

628
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.400
heard that with your own ears. So he can spare

629
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:19.559
me all of this spur of the moment bullshit, no

630
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.280
planning bullshit, because I don't buy that for a second.

631
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.960
He had the framework of his plan. He was just

632
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:32.119
an opportunist. He was looking for the right time. The

633
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.800
trash bag for all of the evidence that just happened

634
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.880
to be there, the bedding and the heater just happening,

635
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.760
happened to be there, the zip ties that he used,

636
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.800
yet knew the exact inch of thirty six inch zip

637
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:48.440
ties that just happened to be there, with the ropes

638
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:52.760
and the hooks. You're telling me that this was just happenstance.

639
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:59.400
Absolutely not no way. And these people are proud of

640
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.199
their DV make no mistake about it.

641
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:03.519
He's proud of this.

642
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:09.840
And as if kidnapping and torture and rape weren't enough,

643
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:14.840
he then stabs her. He had a knife on him,

644
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.639
he flipped it open, and he then jammed it once

645
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.760
into her back, right about her right shoulder blade.

646
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.800
Why why did you have to stab her? And the

647
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:26.199
answer is.

648
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:31.480
Just because it was part of an animalistic thrill that

649
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:40.079
he got to hear this young girl cry out. That

650
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:48.400
is there's no humanity in any of this. There's no

651
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:54.159
ounce of remorse or care. He doesn't look at this

652
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.320
girl at any point and realize that that was a

653
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:02.239
toddler at some point, that someone cares, that someone bottle fed,

654
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.400
that someone raised up, and that someone took back to

655
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.360
school pictures of on her first day of school, that

656
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.480
someone loved and doted on, just like his own daughter.

657
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:17.559
Feet away, feet away. He didn't think of any of that.

658
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:22.559
This was thrill.

659
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:26.519
So where was Samantha now, all of these weeks later,

660
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:32.000
Because if you missed it, he said something that caught

661
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:38.280
the attention, the attention of the interrogators. He did say

662
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.360
that he went on a trip, just like they knew

663
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.280
already because they had those cruise records.

664
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:49.760
So he did go on the trip.

665
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.679
That means all of this was done before he left

666
00:44:55.679 --> 00:45:02.960
for the cruise back then. Yes, that's exactly what that meant.

667
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:06.000
So then it begs the question, Okay, who fed her?

668
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.280
Who gave her water? You were gone for two weeks

669
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.039
on a cruise. Who took care of her? He left,

670
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.679
by the way, the day after he took her, according

671
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:25.960
to this whole timeline. Matter of fact, when he was

672
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:31.039
sexually satisfied and he had fulfilled this fantasy that he had,

673
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:34.639
all that fulfillment for him was done. He got up,

674
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.159
he put on his clothes, and he simply shut the

675
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.519
door to the shed, sipping on a glass of wine

676
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.639
as he walked back into his house as if nothing happened.

677
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.840
The on off switch here is real with this guy

678
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:57.400
and the ability to change immediately just a switch of

679
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.719
a light switch from his actual predator and sadist to

680
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:07.079
dad packing for vacation is unsettling.

681
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.159
I don't know is the right word.

682
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:11.559
He walks in the house after what he's just done

683
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:16.119
to her. He checked on his sleeping daughter. He then

684
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.280
verified that all of their bags were packed and ready.

685
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:20.960
For the vacation that'll wait ahead of them.

686
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:26.159
Because this two weeks in the Caribbean sounds like a blast,

687
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.400
doesn't it. Never mind the eighteen year old girl being

688
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.840
frantically looked for by family members that love her, that's

689
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:43.159
now dying alone in the cold, gagged bound and hanging

690
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:48.719
by a rope around her neck in the shed. That's

691
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:53.480
happening right now. As he SIPs his wine, feeds his dogs,

692
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:58.039
and makes sure that the bags are all packed, so

693
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.800
he puts out the kibble for the dog. He did

694
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.559
a few more other small tasks when shit it hit him.

695
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:11.760
She might start to smell if she's dead. Wait a minute, no,

696
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:16.519
she won't, he thinks about it. It's twenty degrees outside.

697
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.480
I have nothing to worry about. Those were his exact words.

698
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:27.800
By the way, I have nothing to worry about. So

699
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.800
to answer the question of who took care of her

700
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:34.519
while he was gone for the two weeks. That answer

701
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:40.400
is no one why they wouldn't have to, because as

702
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.920
he completed those few tasks in the house, Samantha Koenig

703
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:51.719
hung to her death while bleeding out. About twenty minutes

704
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:55.960
later he returned out to the shed, and he did find,

705
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:59.719
in fact, that Samantha was dead. All of this before

706
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:03.920
he left to go on his cruise, so, not wanting

707
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:07.199
her to be discovered obviously while he was away, he

708
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.199
cut her down. He just cut her down, wrapped her

709
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:13.599
up in a tarp that he had, and then he

710
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:18.159
tidied up the place. And then he had some cabinets

711
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:22.719
in this shed. He stuffed her inside of that cabinet

712
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.920
down in the bottom so that if anyone looked in

713
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:30.159
while he was gone, they wouldn't see anything. Now, the

714
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:33.159
extension cord, he had an extension cord that he rolled

715
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:36.480
out and was using in the shed. He had plugged

716
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.199
in a little heater. At some point while he was

717
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:42.639
doing all this tidying, he realized that the extension cord

718
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.519
that he had gone to the shed had overheated that

719
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:48.599
small heater and it actually melted the cord. It was

720
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:52.400
that bad and it had left now a melted trail

721
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:56.440
of snow in the driveway right up to the shed.

722
00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:59.679
And he looks at it, and he says, oh, well,

723
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.519
the heater wasn't necessary anyway, So he kicked the snow

724
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.519
over the trail. When he looked out, he just he

725
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.360
went and he rolled up the cord. He kicked some

726
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.800
snow over the trail, put the cord away, threw it away, whatever.

727
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:14.559
And then at five am sharp, after he was done

728
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.039
stuffing her in the cabinet, he shut the door to

729
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:21.519
the shed, made every sure everything outside looked well, and

730
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.719
he made a phone call to a cab company.

731
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:24.840
That showed up.

732
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:28.880
His family woke up, They got all everything stuffed up

733
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:31.920
in the cab, and then it drove him to the airport.

734
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:34.239
They all smiled.

735
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:38.039
They were giddy with excitement the fun to come. I mean,

736
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:40.800
his little girl, you're the best daddy. I can't wait

737
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:43.159
to see the boat. This is gonna be exciting. I mean,

738
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.719
she was just beside herself with excitement. So they made

739
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.639
their flight. They got there in time. They flew to

740
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:50.679
New Orleans, right here in my neck of the woods.

741
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.400
And then they loaded the ship for their two week vacation. Crewise,

742
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.239
and that, my friends, is why there was a delay

743
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:04.920
in communication after Samantha was taken, because he took a

744
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:09.400
break to relax and to go travel the whole time,

745
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:15.000
minute by minute, hour by hour and excruciating day by day.

746
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:20.760
Samantha's family was aching for some type of communication for

747
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.000
her to be returned.

748
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:26.079
Her daddy pled with the media, like I said in videos.

749
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.119
About being worried that she wasn't being fed, and y'all,

750
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.800
his fears were justified because she wasn't being fed.

751
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:34.360
She was dead.

752
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:40.320
He just didn't know, and she was decomposing in Israel

753
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.920
Key's shed while he went on a vacation. And while

754
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:48.079
recounting this, he even chuckled at his own story that

755
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.239
he was telling these investigators because he says, yeah, I

756
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.360
tell my girlfriend, you know, pull your vehicle right up

757
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:56.719
to the shed so that while we're gone, nobody can

758
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:57.800
get in and steal my tools.

759
00:50:57.840 --> 00:50:58.800
But then he started laughing.

760
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:00.880
He thought this was funny, and he's like, I mean,

761
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:03.239
that really was possible that someone might try to steal

762
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:05.079
my tools, and that would have sucked if they would

763
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:06.960
have like opened it up and boom, found a body,

764
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:11.480
you know, like he's not talking about a human being.

765
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.320
He's talking about her like she's a prop or something

766
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:20.360
of that nature. He was also really enjoying the media

767
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:26.320
frenzy around Samantha's disappearance. He knew something that nobody else did,

768
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.320
and that was exciting for him. It was so exciting

769
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.039
for him that he even brought his laptop with him

770
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:36.960
on vacation and he followed the news about Samantha's abduction

771
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.320
and that she was missing. While he was waiting to

772
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.519
board the cruise ship in New Orleans, he sat down

773
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.760
and plugged up his computer and was doing some lookabouts

774
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:48.679
in the news about it, so he could see the

775
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:54.320
people freaking out about what only he knew he had done.

776
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.800
But after the two week vacation ended.

777
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.599
Israel returned and now he wanted to get the money

778
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:04.559
he knew he could get if she was still alive.

779
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:09.239
So they returned from the cruise on Sunday the eighteenth,

780
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:13.480
and his daughter, she had school the following Monday, and

781
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.639
that's when he decided to do something with Samantha's body.

782
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.239
But there was a big problem. Whenever he goes back

783
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.360
into the shed and he opens up the bottom cabinets,

784
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:28.559
Samantha was frozen almost solid, and so he couldn't manipulate

785
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:32.480
her body and he couldn't get her out of the cabinet.

786
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.239
It was warm enough though, that if he was able

787
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.119
to get her out that she could thaw, but that

788
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:42.079
was going to take some time. So he decided that

789
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.119
he was going to dismantle the shed and that would

790
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.000
make it a lot easier for her for him to

791
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.159
get her frozen body out. But first, before he could

792
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.599
dismantle the inside, he had to remove a bunch of

793
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.320
items and he had to clean up, so he tore

794
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:59.039
the inside out of the shed all around her, all

795
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:03.320
the while she remained in that bottom level cabinet, and

796
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:06.320
as you can imagine, this took all school day for

797
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:11.480
him to move everything out and start disassembling the inside

798
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:14.920
shelving and things like that. So his daughter returned to

799
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.960
school before he returned to the house before he finished.

800
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.559
So that night, once his daughter went to bed and

801
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.639
his girlfriend was occupied up in the house, he went

802
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.039
back into the shed and he was able to roll

803
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:32.239
and maneuver Samantha out of the bottom cabinet after he

804
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:36.679
took the front doors off because she had started to thall.

805
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:41.639
But then this posed another issue. The tarp that he

806
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:45.159
had wrapped her up in so tightly it wasn't leak proof.

807
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:47.960
He had done his best to wrap her up real good,

808
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:52.320
but he wasn't perfect at it. And that stab wound

809
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:54.920
where he just rammed that knife into the back of

810
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.519
her shoulder blade, that wound had leaked out. That warm

811
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:03.760
blood was leaking out until it eventually froze. While he

812
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.320
was gone for those two weeks. It had leaked out

813
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.039
so much that it went through the tarp, it went

814
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:13.519
down into the flooring, and it even made its way

815
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.639
into some of the insulation of the building. So not

816
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:21.239
bothered much by this, he had some contractor bags and

817
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:25.400
he began to unroll her take her out of the tarp.

818
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:27.960
He then took her out of that sleeping bag that

819
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:30.800
he had put around her as well, and he started

820
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.800
cutting up the bloody items, cut them up into chunks,

821
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.360
and then he put them into the contractor bags. Now,

822
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:42.679
when he was raping her, some of her clothing was

823
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:47.000
bunched up underneath her. He didn't even like remove the

824
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.280
clothing all the way necessarily, like he got it off

825
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.559
of her, but it kind of was bunched up underneath her,

826
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:54.840
and it was still there too, but now it was

827
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:58.079
soaked in blood and having been wrapped in the tarps,

828
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.079
it was kind of like frozen solid in there, but

829
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.719
it had started to thaw so he could get it out.

830
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:05.760
So what he did was he went outside and he

831
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.199
started a fire. This is around two am, and he

832
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:12.840
burned all of the aforementioned items in the early morning

833
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:18.400
darkness as most people slept. So now with just the

834
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:24.480
shed structure and her body, he got viscueen and he

835
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.960
wrapped the inside of the shed. It was just basically

836
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:32.840
the shell like Dexter if you've seen Dexter. He basically

837
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:35.760
took a note out of that book and he nailed

838
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:39.880
the viscueen all along the walls and the surrounding floor

839
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:44.159
of the shed, and he left her body right there

840
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:47.480
on top. And he made mention that now, because it

841
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:51.000
had been so many hours, she was limber, she was movable.

842
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:57.239
And he looked at her laying on the ground and

843
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:01.920
he realized something. He was still into her, as he

844
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:08.760
put it, he still liked her. So he decided that

845
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.800
he was going to grab some more rope. He tied

846
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:16.159
it around her arms, pulled it tight, and then somewhat

847
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:21.400
lifted her up by these rope and then he nailed

848
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:26.679
those rope back up onto the walls as before, above

849
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:30.039
her head. So she's deceased, and limber arms her up,

850
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:33.679
tied up, and he nails them up above her head.

851
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:40.000
So she's still undressed, and he did what he referred

852
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:44.119
to as a private matter, and I want to stop

853
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.920
real quick, he said, this is a private matter while

854
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:53.000
he was talking to the investigators, and I was just

855
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:57.840
disgusted by this a private matter. Everything else that you've

856
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.159
so willingly said that you've done to her wasn't a

857
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:04.000
private matter. This is a private matter between him and

858
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.440
the girl he was into. And he was upset because

859
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:09.079
there was multiple people in the room and he didn't

860
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:10.920
think that he should be sharing this private matter with

861
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:14.199
so many people. But he did finally spit it out,

862
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:17.880
and he said, I was still into her, and so

863
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.840
I had sex with her her two week old corpse.

864
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:26.119
He had sex with her after she was deceased.

865
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:31.760
So when he was done, he got up and he

866
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:34.679
got dressed. So it was now these wee wee wee

867
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.400
hours of the morning. He knew his daughter would be

868
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.280
getting up soon, and so he needed to get back

869
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:42.760
in the house. So he goes to open the door

870
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.719
to the shed and right as he opens it almost

871
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.199
like a jump scare. I'm not sure whether it was

872
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.159
his daughter or it was his girlfriend because it was redacted,

873
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.760
but one of the two was standing right there at

874
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:57.719
the door, scared the living shit.

875
00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:57.920
Out of him.

876
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:02.239
His dead captive right behind him where he had just

877
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:06.639
finished having sex with her, and now he's looking out

878
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:07.320
the door at one of.

879
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:08.559
The two from the household.

880
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:11.400
So he was able to slip out of the door

881
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:14.480
and shut it like nothing was going on, and usher

882
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.880
whoever that was back into the house where he made

883
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:21.800
his daughter breakfast, thinking of how lucky he was that

884
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:24.760
he hadn't still been having sex with her, and the

885
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:30.719
shed door be pulled wide open. So by Tuesday, he

886
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:33.280
knew it was time for phase two of getting the

887
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:36.079
ransom money, and so he set out for some things

888
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:39.159
that he knew that he would need. He wanted a newspaper,

889
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:43.280
and he wanted a polaroid camera, which was now an

890
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.440
obviously very outdated item to find, and he also needed

891
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:51.000
to go get some computer paper. So the typewriter he

892
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:53.400
was able to find at a thrift store, but the

893
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.719
polaroid that was an issue. He was having a hard

894
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:57.360
time with that, so he's like, where am I going

895
00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:59.559
to find one of these that works? And that's when

896
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:04.000
he got on line and realize, oh, wait a minute,

897
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:07.360
these are actually sold at Target that you know how

898
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:09.239
They're now like kind of back in style, the old

899
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:10.000
school polaroids.

900
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:11.119
They're now readily sold.

901
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:14.239
My own kids had one pops out those instant photos.

902
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:18.159
But by the time all this research was done, his

903
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:21.440
daughter had to be picked up from school. So he

904
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:23.559
was a daddy and he did what daddies do. He

905
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:25.679
went and he picked up his daughter and said, you

906
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:29.199
want to go to Target? Sure, And he took his

907
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:34.119
daughter to Target to pick up the very polaroid camera

908
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:36.760
that he would need as part of his ransom.

909
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.239
Note he took his daughter.

910
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:44.559
Y'aw, he took his own daughter to buy the camera

911
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:48.639
that he would use to extort money from another.

912
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.679
Man for his daughter. Think about that.

913
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:55.920
So he gets home from the trip and he realizes

914
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.400
there's no film. It didn't come with the camera, so

915
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.960
that was a bum. He waited until that evening when

916
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:08.280
his daughter and his girlfriend were in bed and he left.

917
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:09.880
He made sure to leave a cell phone by his

918
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.360
girlfriend so that if she were to wake up or

919
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:15.760
needed him or something, she could just call him. And

920
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:18.480
then he slipped off to go get the film from

921
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:23.400
another town nearby. Afterwards, after he was able to secure

922
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.920
that film, he decided he needed to go scout out

923
01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:29.400
an area that he could use to dump Samantha's body,

924
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:31.559
because he did say I wanted to keep her, but

925
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:35.679
I couldn't do that. So a lake that was nearby

926
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.719
really got his curiosity because but he wanted to know,

927
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:42.159
you know, how many people are out there after dark?

928
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:43.239
Is it populated?

929
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:43.599
Well?

930
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:45.360
Is are there a lot of people that are gonna

931
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:46.280
be out there that might see me?

932
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:48.599
But while he was trying to find it, he got

933
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:52.320
lost and he didn't get to check it out before

934
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.760
it got too late and he had to head back home. Remember,

935
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:57.400
he's going to be very primitive when he's trying to

936
01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.239
reach out and find where he's gonna put her body.

937
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.360
He doesn't want to be able to tracked there, so

938
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:03.719
he's trying to do this just the primitive way, not

939
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:08.880
using a GPS or anything. And at some point I'm

940
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:10.920
not sure exactly what day because it wasn't very clear

941
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.280
to me, but he also used his girlfriend's car and

942
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.800
he went and he purchased a sled, and he also

943
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:21.519
went and he bought some large totes with lids from

944
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.000
home depot because that was going to be what he

945
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:28.920
used as Samantha's casket. So, according to Israel, after a

946
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.760
few days went by, he says it was just business

947
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:34.199
as usual because he didn't want to go out to

948
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:36.679
the shed while his girlfriend was home because now it's

949
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:41.159
empty and only his dead captive is in there. And

950
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:43.199
he says, look, this is going to be a huge

951
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.440
issue for me because I don't want her to come

952
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:50.039
snooping around and find anything out there. But he realized,

953
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:52.440
I got a move man, it's time I need. I've

954
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.159
got to make a move here for this ransom money.

955
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:57.360
Enough time has gone by, so he needed at this

956
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:01.079
point to send the text to get the attention of

957
01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:04.280
the family. But he knew that he needed proof of

958
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:08.039
life photos so that they would know. You know that

959
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:09.440
he's not going to get the money if they think

960
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:15.400
that Samantha is dead. So how did he text this

961
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:19.480
text and then put the ransom note in the park

962
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:23.760
with a photo of Samantha still alive after the cruise

963
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:27.840
because he didn't have the polaroid until after the cruise. Well,

964
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:31.679
he had kept a few things of hers before he

965
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:34.320
burned everything, a few things of Samantha's that included her

966
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:36.719
id and she also had a little bit of makeup

967
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:40.920
in her purse. So he left for Walmart and he

968
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:44.920
went to go make a few purchases, and that included

969
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:48.599
buying some fishing line, a few other items, and he

970
01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:51.840
also bought a little bit more makeup that he matched

971
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.239
to what was similar that Samantha had in her purse.

972
01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:59.599
He then went to a dumpster that was behind the store,

973
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:02.039
and there he locked up. He found a stack of

974
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:06.360
old newspapers and look have it, they were in chronological

975
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:09.920
order by date, and so he noticed they had newspapers

976
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:13.480
that dated from the sixth through the nineteenth. So he

977
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:16.920
really thought this through. He wanted to be clever about it,

978
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:20.280
and he chose the newspaper with the date of the

979
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.880
thirteenth on it because that was the day that he

980
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:27.719
had left for the cruise initially. And he figured, all right,

981
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:32.119
this will fit an alibi should I be questioned about this,

982
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.639
because I couldn't be taking pictures if I'm on a cruise.

983
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:35.280
Makes sense.

984
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.760
So his girlfriend went out of town or went out

985
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:44.239
with friends for a while, and so he was able

986
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:48.000
to return home that night, and he decided he wanted

987
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:51.719
to spend the night with Samantha's body, So he made

988
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:55.199
a makeshift table and he put that table in the

989
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.320
center of the VisQueen out into the shed, and then

990
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:02.119
he put he lay Samantha. He picked her up and

991
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.320
he lay her on top of that table, and he

992
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:09.000
looked at her, and that's when he said he obviously

993
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:11.679
had some work to do, because she looked pretty different

994
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:16.519
at this point. You think she's been dead two weeks.

995
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:22.199
And he started by fixing her hair. He separated it

996
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:27.960
into three equal strands, three equal groupings, and he braided

997
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:30.400
her hair for her because he wanted her to have

998
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:35.320
a more put together look. By this time that he

999
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:37.159
did her hair and got her look in the way

1000
01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:41.599
he wanted, she had completely and totally thawed, and this

1001
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.360
frustrated him because now her face wasn't looking the same.

1002
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:48.280
There was a lot of slack to it because the

1003
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.679
muscles weren't being used, and she didn't look as good

1004
01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:56.039
as she did when she was fresh. So he decided

1005
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:58.440
he was going to help her out, and he spent

1006
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:05.519
the next three to five hours doing her makeup. He

1007
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:10.840
went through tubes and tubes of foundation. He even went

1008
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.000
and got some of his girlfriend's old makeup when he

1009
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:18.199
ran out. And this just became frustrating for him because

1010
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:20.880
after he put all the makeup on her, he put

1011
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:23.519
the blush on her. He did all that he could do.

1012
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.760
He was frustrated because Samantha lacked expression.

1013
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:31.360
It wasn't very convincing.

1014
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:32.199
You know.

1015
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.599
He needed to do something about that, he said.

1016
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:39.679
He first tried to tape her mouth to where it

1017
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:43.400
would look like a more lifelike position, and once he

1018
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:45.360
got the mouth kind of set like he liked it,

1019
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.079
he realized now her eyes were a problem.

1020
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:50.559
It just didn't look right.

1021
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.039
So he grabbed some super glue and he tried to

1022
01:05:55.199 --> 01:06:00.079
superglue the eyes open, but that didn't work. It just

1023
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.480
didn't look right. And that's when he reached and he

1024
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:06.920
grabbed that ten pound test line that he had purchased,

1025
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:12.760
and using a curved needle, he thread that ten pound

1026
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:18.400
test line on the hook and he began sewing her eyes.

1027
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:23.960
He decided once he started working that the best look

1028
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:27.639
would be for them to be closed. It was a

1029
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:32.519
better option. Yes, that is what happened. I'm gonna let

1030
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:35.559
you listen to him explain this process.

1031
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:42.119
And then I was still having problems with her eyes

1032
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.280
or her forehead, you know, because there was no expression.

1033
01:06:49.519 --> 01:07:00.000
And tried super glue. That didn't work. So I took

1034
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:06.199
the needles that I had, had a big curved needle,

1035
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:12.519
get what they call it. But and then I had

1036
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:21.880
that ten pound test fishing line, and I seed took

1037
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.760
the needle and went down through her growl, like right

1038
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:34.719
between her eyebrows, down up along her nose cartilage under

1039
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:37.880
the skin, and came out and then went back up

1040
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:42.079
and along the same path and did it again, and

1041
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:44.119
then pulled the tight to make it look like she

1042
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:51.599
was squeezing her eyes shut. And then I took a

1043
01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:54.840
test picture just to kind of see what it was

1044
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:59.960
gonna look like. Okay, put a little more makeup on

1045
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:05.000
after that. I already had her hair braided at that point.

1046
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:14.400
And what did you put the makeup on it? Makeup?

1047
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.720
I used, like what was left over? I didn't know,

1048
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:22.000
I mean, wear on her everywhere. I had to put foundation,

1049
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:24.840
like every part you see in that picture as a foundation,

1050
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:29.560
on two or three different kinds. Why did you hear it? Well,

1051
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:34.439
she didn't look good. I mean her skin, you could

1052
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:37.439
see it, start to see the blood under the skin

1053
01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:46.319
and the brute and bruisine, and I mean she was

1054
01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:49.239
still in good shape, and you know, she definitely didn't

1055
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:54.880
work alive. And so yeah, it took me a long time.

1056
01:08:54.920 --> 01:09:00.680
I think I used two or three tubes of and

1057
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:02.720
then after that I had to go over it with

1058
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.800
a couple other colors in different areas, because I mean,

1059
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:10.560
at first it just looked like she was painted. I

1060
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:12.720
had to add in some red and I don't know,

1061
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:16.119
a different stuff different places.

1062
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:21.000
Just while y'all, I know that's horrifying. I know it is,

1063
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.319
and I want to tell you something else. I was

1064
01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:32.520
very disappointed in some other podcasters as well as some

1065
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:39.760
articles that were written about this story, because as horrifying

1066
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:45.479
and demonic really as these admissions are, a lot of

1067
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:49.840
media has passed around a photo that they are claiming

1068
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:55.199
is Samantha with her eyes open with a newspaper, and I.

1069
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:58.319
Want to tell you that photo is fake. It is

1070
01:09:58.439 --> 01:09:58.960
not real.

1071
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:05.680
It is a a misrepresentation of the reality. It's clearly

1072
01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:10.199
a picture that someone made of what they believed it

1073
01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:15.159
would look like. But it's being passed around the media.

1074
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:19.479
As if it's real, and per his own interrogation, his

1075
01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:24.880
own words, he said he sewed her eyes shut, not open,

1076
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:28.439
and failure to tell the truth to me is a

1077
01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:31.800
failure for Samantha and it's a failure for her family

1078
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:38.239
because I don't need to lie or make grandiose gore. Okay,

1079
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:42.720
that's not the goal nor the point. Sowing a precious

1080
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:48.039
girl's eyes in any way, shape or form is the

1081
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:52.359
devil's work, and I implore people do your research.

1082
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:53.560
And do it well.

1083
01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:57.439
Actually pay attention and listen to the interrogations when these

1084
01:10:57.479 --> 01:10:59.880
types of cases come out, because what this child inn

1085
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:03.439
door in both life and after her passing is sickening.

1086
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:07.199
It's sickening enough without the lies that seemed to have

1087
01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:11.039
been compiled for shock factor, and I find it to

1088
01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:13.760
be further injurious to her story and to those that

1089
01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:17.399
love her. So I will put that fake picture on

1090
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:19.520
Patreon so you can see what I'm talking about, but

1091
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:22.359
I want to be clear that is not her, and

1092
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:28.119
I am not passing that off as her now, after

1093
01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:32.720
all of that horrificness was done, he did take a

1094
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.039
series of photos after he did her hair and her makeup,

1095
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:38.880
but he didn't like the first few, he said, they

1096
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:41.600
didn't do for him what he wanted. But eventually he

1097
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:44.960
got a shot he liked. So he then cut out

1098
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:48.319
that polaroid out of the frame that it prints out in.

1099
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:51.119
And his original plan was that he was going to

1100
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.800
give the picture and then the ransom note.

1101
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:56.479
But he decided, no, I think I'll do.

1102
01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:58.880
I'll go a different route, and so he put the

1103
01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.880
picture and he photo copied it on to a sheet

1104
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:07.039
of paper, and just the photocopied sheet of paper with

1105
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.000
the picture was the one that he would nail up

1106
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:12.039
in the park because he wanted there to be a

1107
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:15.439
question in anyone investigating this. He wanted there to be

1108
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:17.039
a question in their mind of whether it was a

1109
01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:19.239
polaroid or not. He didn't want that to just be

1110
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:20.079
crystal clear.

1111
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:21.680
He then threw.

1112
01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:24.600
Away the makeup, he threw away the unliked photos that

1113
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:28.159
he took, and he burned all of that after his Again,

1114
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:32.159
his girlfriend was gone, but now it was time to

1115
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:35.840
post the note and to tease the family. That's what

1116
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:38.399
he wanted to do. Now, I want to ask you something.

1117
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.760
Do you know whether he needed the money or not?

1118
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.880
I haven't heard that addressed anywhere. I wanted to know.

1119
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.840
Did he need the money? Was this out of in

1120
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:51.319
some sick way necessity in his mind that he needed

1121
01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:53.920
to do this to get a quick cash grab. The

1122
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:59.720
answer is no. He even said I didn't need the money.

1123
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:04.039
I was just bored. Those are his words. I was

1124
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:07.000
bored with my nine to five handyman work. And this

1125
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:09.439
was a fun and easy way to get a lot

1126
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:14.039
of cash. So when his girlfriend was gone, that's whenever

1127
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:17.199
he had bought that typewriter, or excuse me, he brought

1128
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:21.319
that typewriter into the house and he settled in to

1129
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:26.319
write his demands, and, ever careful to not leave any DNA,

1130
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:30.560
he wore latex gloves the whole time he was typing.

1131
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:36.479
He took care note by note, letter by letter as

1132
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:41.279
he wrote that he would create immense amounts of stress

1133
01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:45.319
and urgency for this family when they got this, and

1134
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:49.760
he typed it with calculated precision, he wanted them to

1135
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:54.680
think that she was possibly sold off as a sex

1136
01:13:54.760 --> 01:14:00.760
slave in Mexico's prostitution world. So the reason he was

1137
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.000
thinking this was from the time that he took the

1138
01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:06.439
photo to the actual writing of the ransom note, there

1139
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:10.560
was about ten days. This was enough time if you

1140
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:13.199
were going to drive to Mexico and sell her off

1141
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:16.399
and then drive back, you could do it. That's the

1142
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:19.359
distance he could have made, and so he wanted to

1143
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:25.079
maybe lead investigators in that direction away from him. He

1144
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:28.760
then finished the letter. He pulled the completed ransom note

1145
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.960
from the typewriter and he placed it, along with that

1146
01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.399
photo of Samantha, on the printer glass he had and

1147
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:39.359
made a copy. He then folded it nicely and carefully

1148
01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:43.439
placed it inside that ziplock, still wearing those gloves, and

1149
01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:47.600
then he placed that ziplock inside of another one so

1150
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:52.119
that he wouldn't inadvertently transfer any DNA to the inside bag,

1151
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:54.279
which would be the one he would leave at the park.

1152
01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.920
And then he just stashed it away until he was

1153
01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:02.560
ready to make his move. The morning that the texts

1154
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:06.560
were sent to Samantha's boyfriend, Israel got up early, It

1155
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:09.960
was about six am, and he drove to Connor's Park

1156
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:13.800
and he used a pushpin to put that zip lock

1157
01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:17.199
up on that pushpin board, pop it in, and then

1158
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:19.840
he left and he immediately went back home. Because see,

1159
01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:22.119
he had a plan here. None of this was by chance.

1160
01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:26.239
He was going to wait a few days before texting.

1161
01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:33.039
He had used his girlfriend's car to go place the note,

1162
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:36.680
and he wanted the tracks to be covered with snow

1163
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:40.840
before he made his next move, so he put the

1164
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:44.760
note up before he texted. He also threw away his

1165
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:48.119
shoes that he wore to place the note. So when

1166
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.920
we say something is calculated, or that a person is

1167
01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:56.680
a calculated murderer, this is a prime example by what we.

1168
01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:57.159
Mean by that.

1169
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:00.720
So that same evening that he went and he put

1170
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:04.520
the note up, he was asked by his girlfriend if

1171
01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:07.479
he would be the designated driver for her and her

1172
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.000
friends who were going to go out and party. He

1173
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:11.640
said he didn't want to go, and she said, well,

1174
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.880
will you be designated driver then, and he thought this

1175
01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:20.199
is perfect. Hell yeah, this will even establish more alibi

1176
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:22.319
for me. Lots of people will see me.

1177
01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.000
This is great.

1178
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:28.760
So what he did instead was he had already put

1179
01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.560
the note up. Now he was going to be designated driver.

1180
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:34.760
So while he was dropping off a male buddy of

1181
01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:38.560
his at a friend's house, he had Samantha's cell phone

1182
01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:43.560
in his pocket the whole time. Well, he then took

1183
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:46.800
a buddy up to a store to buy some beer,

1184
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:49.840
and so while the buddy was in the store, he

1185
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:52.720
took the battery and he popped it back in to

1186
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:57.520
Samantha's phone shortly thereafter. That's whenever he sent those text messages,

1187
01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:00.960
and then he removed the battery immediately and he went

1188
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:01.520
back home.

1189
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:03.239
So he was making a plan.

1190
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:07.000
Here if he's driving about and they can't locate where

1191
01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:09.560
that cell phone, those notes, the text messages.

1192
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:11.319
Were being sent from. This was making it.

1193
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:12.680
You know what I'm saying, He can do it now,

1194
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:16.960
he doesn't have to wait. But curiosity got the better

1195
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:21.359
of him. Did his messages get received? He started really

1196
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:24.479
thinking about it. Did they get my messages? He wanted

1197
01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:27.520
everyone to know about the ransom, and he started thinking, Tom,

1198
01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:28.399
I sent it.

1199
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:32.079
To the boyfriend, Well, why did I do that? Boyfriend's

1200
01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:33.479
not gonna be the one to pay. The dad's going

1201
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:34.239
to be the one to pay.

1202
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:37.880
And he's like, man, maybe you know, the police probably

1203
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:41.319
have the boyfriend's cell phone, and so what if they

1204
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.159
intercepted the message, and then I'm messing with the police,

1205
01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:45.920
thinking I'm messing with So he really just started thinking

1206
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:49.640
about this. So he decided to drive back by the

1207
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:54.279
park where he had left that note to see was

1208
01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:58.159
there any movement there, and he could tell as he

1209
01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:01.760
drove by that a crime scene was set up. He

1210
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.000
couldn't see in there, he said. He was more secretive looking,

1211
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.479
but he was definitely a hush hush crime scene set up.

1212
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:12.399
Bingo. He knew that they knew they.

1213
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:15.800
Had gotten it, so this was perfect for him. Game

1214
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:19.880
on and he slowly drove past the officers that were

1215
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:23.000
posted right there on the outer edges of the scene,

1216
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.520
and then calmly he texted his friends that were out

1217
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:28.720
and said, Hey, are y'all needing to ride from point

1218
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:29.319
A to point B?

1219
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:31.399
Yet they were like, yeah.

1220
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:33.159
Man, come get us. So he went and he picked

1221
01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:35.880
him up from a party. They were playing poker, and

1222
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:37.840
he told the other buddy, you know what, go ahead

1223
01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:40.760
and cancel your cab. Man, I got you. Matter of fact,

1224
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:43.000
you can stay at our house. I'm having a really

1225
01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:47.239
good night. Just come stay at our house. So they

1226
01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:49.560
all went back to his house. And now that that

1227
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:51.920
plan was in motion, he had to get rid of

1228
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:57.119
her body because by the way, she was starting to smell. So,

1229
01:18:57.239 --> 01:18:59.079
like I said, he wanted to keep her at first,

1230
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.239
and he wanted to bury her in his own backyard,

1231
01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:05.399
but that wasn't feasible here. It wasn't gonna work, so

1232
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:08.119
this is what he decided to do instead.

1233
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:12.520
Yeah, So I took her off, rolled her off the table,

1234
01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:16.079
and took the table apart, cut up the plywood that

1235
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.479
it was made out of, and it burned that and

1236
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:28.079
had a big rolling toe wasn't very deep, about five

1237
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:37.199
or six inches teep, and put her in that. And

1238
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:41.560
that's what I cut her up in much as she

1239
01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:45.000
used to cut her up. Did you find the knife,

1240
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:52.039
the yellow? That's mostly what I used. I took the wire.

1241
01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:57.159
I already had the wire. I use the wire like

1242
01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:03.439
a tourniquet the blood to a minimum, and wrapped it

1243
01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.119
around both sides of everywhere where I planned to cut,

1244
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:14.239
and had everything all wired up, and then made the cuts.

1245
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:21.640
I like to pay a few minutes and trickle bagged

1246
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:26.039
everything and there wasn't really a mess in the shed

1247
01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:29.680
at all. I remember thinking that I was going to

1248
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:33.600
have to burn the toe that I cut her up,

1249
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:35.960
and all the viscreen and everything, But then I just

1250
01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:39.760
decided to even if someone found it at the landfill,

1251
01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:43.600
it didn't really look like anything but trash. So so

1252
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.800
I took all that stuff and I had some big

1253
01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:50.560
clear fifty five. Yet there were really big trash bags

1254
01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:55.680
that I got at home depot, and I stopped triple

1255
01:20:55.720 --> 01:21:00.640
back to her and blacked plastic, darted back two different bungles,

1256
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:05.439
foot drinking the corner of the shed, and then we

1257
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:08.680
started tearing down all of this screen, tore down all

1258
01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:15.439
the spring, stuffed it in, stuffed it in the big

1259
01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:20.600
clear bag. And then I had a bunch of other

1260
01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:24.199
stuff that I had used to thorrow out in the

1261
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:27.800
garage that I didn't think was looked that bad, So

1262
01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:31.359
I decided just to throw that stuff away too, So

1263
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:35.039
I bagged all that stuff up and put it all

1264
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:46.159
out in the trailer, and and she, yeah, she sat

1265
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.560
out there for a few days, two or three days.

1266
01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:54.199
After listening to that, I think I have more conviction

1267
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.560
discussing the paint color options of my house when I

1268
01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:02.119
was repainting than he does out cutting up a girl

1269
01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:07.880
dismembering her. I just put her in a tote and

1270
01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:11.199
I used a knife to cut her into parts. You

1271
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:14.479
really wouldn't believe this unless you hurt it with your

1272
01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:16.560
own ears. And that's why I wanted you to hear

1273
01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:22.279
him tell it. It's callous. He's not affected he's just

1274
01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:27.680
matter of fact. And then he went and he created

1275
01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:30.640
what he called an ice hut, which is like a tent,

1276
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:34.199
and he brought his fishing gear with him too, because

1277
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:35.920
he was gonna have to do this over a series

1278
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:39.319
of days. So he gets out on that lake where

1279
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:42.359
the ice is really thick, and using a chainsaw, he

1280
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:49.920
cut roughly a thirteen by twenty inch hole. So he

1281
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:53.159
needed that hole to be big enough for what he

1282
01:22:53.239 --> 01:22:55.119
was going to do next. But that took him a

1283
01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:56.600
while to set up. He had to set up his

1284
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:58.560
little tent, he had to cut through the ice, he

1285
01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:00.760
had to break the ice up, and he had to leave,

1286
01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:04.680
y'all because he had a parent teacher conference that day.

1287
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:06.840
Now, he hadn't kept.

1288
01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:09.000
His battery in his phone the whole time because he

1289
01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:11.239
didn't want to be tracked by it. So when he

1290
01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:13.920
got back to his truck, he realized, shit, I'm gonna

1291
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:15.520
be late for my parent teacher conference.

1292
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:18.800
So he had to call the school and he told.

1293
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:20.319
Them, look, I don't think i'm gonna make it to

1294
01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:22.640
the conference, and they're like, that's fine, we can reschedule

1295
01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:25.720
for tomorrow. It wasn't gonna be a lot of time,

1296
01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:29.279
so he said that'll work, and he got in his

1297
01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:34.840
truck and he drove back home. So the next day,

1298
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:39.039
that's when he took some pieces of Samantha to the lake,

1299
01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:42.680
careful to not stay too long and to be able

1300
01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:45.800
to get back in time for that parent teacher conference.

1301
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:48.319
And by the way, I'm gonna put on Patreon, I

1302
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:51.920
have that teacher, I have some interrogation of that teacher

1303
01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:53.960
and that conference audio. I'm gonna put that on Patreon

1304
01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:57.000
for you, so you can go check that out. But

1305
01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:02.600
when he returned to bring pieces of Samantha out there,

1306
01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:05.760
he had to find a way to make her go

1307
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:09.000
down in this hole. And he used the sled to

1308
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:12.840
transport the totes out to his to his ice hut,

1309
01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:16.880
and he brought with him a bunch of weights, like

1310
01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:21.079
fishing weights. And so what he did was he decided

1311
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:23.159
he was going to put the smaller pieces of her

1312
01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:26.359
in first and then would follow with the larger ones.

1313
01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:31.640
He would tie a weight with the fishing strt. However,

1314
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:33.039
you know, with the fish and string, he would tie

1315
01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:36.439
a weight to the piece of her body and then

1316
01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:39.439
drop it in the hole. And then he would get

1317
01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:43.960
the next piece same thing, then drop her in the hole,

1318
01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:48.199
small pieces first, and then the larger ones. Now her

1319
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:51.560
arms were bound together and those slid right into the hole,

1320
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:56.920
no problem. Her legs they were separate. He tied those,

1321
01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:01.000
dropped those down in. Her head was also cut off,

1322
01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:05.800
which he dropped into the hole. But when he got

1323
01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:09.039
to her torso the day that he went out there again,

1324
01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:11.039
because he did this over a couple of days, when

1325
01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:14.199
he got to her torso, it was really heavy, he said,

1326
01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:17.479
and so whenever he dropped the torso in.

1327
01:25:18.079 --> 01:25:18.920
It splashed.

1328
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:23.119
It made a huge splashback, and blood bubbled up out

1329
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.600
of the hole with the water and then rushed over

1330
01:25:25.640 --> 01:25:29.720
the edges of the ice. So now he's got a

1331
01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:34.159
big bloody area around where his ice hut is. But

1332
01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:37.560
he wasn't perturbed by it too much, so he made

1333
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:40.279
sure to cover it up and to wash it away

1334
01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:44.119
with water and ice so that it wouldn't draw any attention.

1335
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:49.640
After she was completely piece by piece put in the water,

1336
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:54.600
he felt accomplished, and so he built a fire, and

1337
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:57.560
he set up his fishing rigs, and he decided to

1338
01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:00.640
do some fishing. This is just it's been a very

1339
01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:03.199
accomplished day for him, he felt.

1340
01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:04.840
So.

1341
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:08.680
After he did him some fishing. Later on, he returned

1342
01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:13.000
home and he decided that he would continue to follow

1343
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:17.920
this case in the media, including going to online blogs

1344
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:23.239
about the case and in the coburger style, you know,

1345
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:26.279
the Idaho four coburger. You know he went online.

1346
01:26:26.319 --> 01:26:27.880
This guy Israel Keys.

1347
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:30.880
He was the same way because he not only went

1348
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:34.720
on blogs about it, he even commented on them. He

1349
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:37.319
would make comments about the case on this blog. He

1350
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:41.760
never expected to be tracked down by clever police, nor

1351
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:45.039
ever thought that he would be pulled over, especially not

1352
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:51.880
in another state. And again, all while this family was

1353
01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:57.079
desperate and clinging to hope that their daughter, that their

1354
01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:03.239
little girl, would be returned home. Because if loving his

1355
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:08.000
honey bunny was enough to save her, Samantha's daddy would

1356
01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:09.319
have saved her instantly.

1357
01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:11.000
We all know this.

1358
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:18.000
If love was enough, we could stop so many tragedies

1359
01:27:18.039 --> 01:27:21.640
in this world. But all the love and devotion in

1360
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:23.399
the world would not work.

1361
01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:24.079
This time.

1362
01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:31.279
Samantha Koenig was gone, and now that this confession had

1363
01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:35.840
been made, her family knew of her horrific death and

1364
01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:41.560
her unspeakable method of disposal. So dive teams for the

1365
01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:46.079
FBI they went out on the lake and they spent

1366
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:52.760
grueling hours out there, ten grueling hours searching for any

1367
01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:55.239
body parts that they were able to find, and they

1368
01:27:55.279 --> 01:28:01.359
were able to recover a few. There be no open casket,

1369
01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:09.479
no physical proof that she was really gone. Israel Keys

1370
01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:14.960
made sure that he destroyed every ounce of her existence,

1371
01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:21.760
but there was something that he could never remove. Ever,

1372
01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:26.319
despite all of the work he put in, he would

1373
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:32.560
never be able to erase or remove the memories of

1374
01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:38.640
a girl fiercely loved and treasured by her family and friends.

1375
01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:43.439
They will never let this go. She is not going

1376
01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:47.600
to be forgotten. Her soul was forever and it still

1377
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:52.079
is today. And I don't know about you, but I

1378
01:28:52.119 --> 01:28:54.319
don't have to see all that.

1379
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:55.399
I believe is real.

1380
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.520
It's kind of like the wind, you know. I can't

1381
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:03.560
see it, but I know when it's there. Well, after

1382
01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:06.279
the news was broken to Samantha Koenig's family that she

1383
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:08.960
wouldn't be coming home. You know, I don't have to

1384
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:11.840
detail the heartbreak. We all know what that was, We

1385
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:15.359
all know how that must have come. But a memorial

1386
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:18.640
was held for her, and her family asked that flowers

1387
01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:22.840
not be sent. And I wanted to tell you why

1388
01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:28.039
instead In lieu of flowers. They asked that you keep

1389
01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:32.840
Samantha in your thoughts by sharing a smile and sharing

1390
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:38.640
a laugh with those that you encounter, And that tells

1391
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:44.359
me exactly who Samantha was and how the importance of

1392
01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:47.840
spreading joy is a gift that we can all continue

1393
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:55.359
to give. But Israel, Israel had now admitted and confessed

1394
01:29:55.439 --> 01:30:01.199
to his crimes against Samantha in explicit detail. Yet he

1395
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:05.720
said a statement that again caught the attention of investigators,

1396
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:12.640
and it went like this. He chuckles, and he says, yeah,

1397
01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:17.439
I've been basically two different men for the past fourteen years.

1398
01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:25.199
What hold on this case about Samantha? This has all

1399
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:29.039
just taken place over a month or so. So was

1400
01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:32.199
he's saying that he's been a killer for fourteen years?

1401
01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:36.199
Were there more victims? Guys?

1402
01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:41.840
We are just getting started. And yes, there will be

1403
01:30:41.880 --> 01:30:46.079
a part three to this Israel Keys series. So many

1404
01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:50.159
people had hired Israel to do small repair jobs at

1405
01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:55.399
their homes, including the district attorney. If you remember, how

1406
01:30:55.560 --> 01:31:00.239
in the world did everyone miss this guy in playing you?

1407
01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:01.720
Well, I'll leave you with this.

1408
01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:05.199
When your handyman tells you that he can fix anything,

1409
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:08.159
no one ever imagines that's going to include their life

1410
01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:09.840
expectancy