Feb. 10, 2026

The Day After ‘I Do’: Ashley Humphrey’s Deadly Honeymoon

The Day After ‘I Do’: Ashley Humphrey’s Deadly Honeymoon
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Season 9

On July 4th, 2003 Ashley Laney walked down the aisle to become mrs. Ashley Humphrey. The very next day, she would become a killer. What started as a romance at a Florida gym spiraled into a shocking display of stalking and jealousy when her new husband’s ex-wife, Sandee Rozzo became targeted in a plot of murder.

Timestamps
03:44 The Case of Sandee Rozzo
12:25 Captivity and Assault
17:56 A Night of Celebration
20:12 The Discovery of a Crime
31:14 The New Wife 41:26 Building the Case
51:46 The Informant 1:08:56 Ashley’s First Attempt
1:21:45 The Trial and Sentencing

#unspeakable #podcast #Ashleyhumphrey #sandrarozzo #crime #truecrime #florida

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable.

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Warning.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended,

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then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all,

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kJ you're back with the other episode of Unspeakable. I've

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got an excellent one for you today. But before we start,

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I've got to do some shout outs. Got some new

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people in the crime family. And we will start in Boise, Idaho,

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with Miss Leslie Snyder.

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What is up, Leslie? How are things over in Idaho?

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I'm waving at you on camera, hopefully you're watching this online,

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and I am so appreciative for you. We will then

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go to Huntsville, Alabama, and this is miss Linda Bowen.

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What is going on? Linda? I have been to Huntsville, Alabama.

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Believe it or not.

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I always say I haven't been places, but I have

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been there, really enjoyed my time.

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So we're friends now, So thank you so much for joining.

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And then, last but not least, just for today, we're

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gonna go to Ellisville, Mississippi with miss Amanda Holder. Hi Amanda,

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love my Mississippi people right there next door. I hope

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that you are having a fantastic week and know how

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much you're valued and how much I appreciate you.

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Again, when you join my.

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Patreon, that's me, talk to me, send me messages, you

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can do requests, whatever you want. Lots of pictures, videos,

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and all that jazz on that Patreon just for you. Also,

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this is a shout out that is special to my

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own child, my oldest daughter. I want to say a

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huge congratulations y'all this mama has officially got a child

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going to LSU. She was accepted into college, and I

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think that that deserves a shout out.

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So y'all please tell my daughter.

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If you don't know her, you can still you can

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still say it just out in the universe.

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Good job, mama.

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I'm so proud of you and I can't wait to

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see where you go in life. And also I have

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to give a shout out to Kingwood High School in

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Texas and Humble, Texas. My niece goes there. Her name

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is Leah. And her chicken she was in the FFA

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and her chicken made it to auction, which is a

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huge deal if you know anything about FFA. And her

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chicken was bid on by a hospital and she sold

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that mother for like eight hundred bucks or something crazy.

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So I'm proud of you, Leah. Everything that you've accomplished

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is just making my heart singing into all the kids

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in FFA out and Humble at Kingwood.

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Good job, guys, I've got photos.

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I can show you this amazing chicken and y'all will

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All right, let me ask you something, folks. Do you

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remember what you were doing back in two thousand and three,

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because I do. I was at college. I was trying

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to figure out my life and we were actually all

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in the throes of a serial killer murdering women all

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around us. If you're following the DTL series, you know

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exactly what I'm talking about. Well, this case, this one's

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going to take place around that same time in two

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thousand and three.

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And what state are we going to be in.

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I'll let you know. We are heading to none other

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than Florida. You knew everything always happens in Florida. Now,

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this was the home of thirty seven year old Sandra Rozzo.

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Now she went by Sandy. So if I say Sandra

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or Sandy, same woman, and from the jump, you will

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be able to tell that she is obviously a very

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beautiful woman. She was thin, well kept very tan, exactly

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like what you expect a Florida local to look like.

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And when I say beautiful and thin, please don't come

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at me for that. What I mean is that she

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actually used to be a model, so she fit that part.

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She fit the bill of what people expect in a model,

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and she had dreams of actually being on television and

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maybe being in movies. But she hadn't had her major

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break just yet, but she definitely had the look for it.

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So for now she spent her days looking for gigs,

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but at night she was serving drinks and chatting it

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up with the locals as a bartender. Now, she was

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a very popular bartender, especially with the men, because, like

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I've told you, she was stunning. She drew attention just

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by the way she looked. She wore that typical early

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two thousands dark dark lipliner with the lighter lipstick, very

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heavy eyeliner. It made her blue eyes glow. They were

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stunningly beautiful.

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They stood out.

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I guess that look altogether from the outside looked pretty

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damn good.

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So while men were attracted to.

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Her, she was going through somewhat of a single phase

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and her former relationship had failed.

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She was divorced.

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Now she had been married, she was divorced, and she

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was now the single mother of a daughter whom I

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don't even have to say, but she.

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Absolutely doored, loved her little girl.

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But for circumstances that I was unable to muddle through

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or find her ex husband actually had custody of their daughter,

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Giovanna for now. So, like I said, I'm not leaving

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anything out here.

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That I that I know.

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I don't know why he had custody, but that just

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was what I found to be the case. And even

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with this hardship of not being the sole custody, you know,

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the main custody I guess person for the child, Sandy

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remained happy. She remained a genuine person. She was someone

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who gave all in her friendships. She was that person

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that you knew if you were her friend, she would

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support you one hundred percent and would come through whenever

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you needed her. And I know I've said this before

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in other episodes if you've been a long time listener,

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but she makes me think of my friend Krisha. Krisha

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has been a longtime friend of mine and is just

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somebody that is so genuine in heart, and I know

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if I picked up the phone anytime of the day,

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she would show up. And friends like that are hard

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to come by their quality. So as this story unfolds,

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we would still have to back up one more year, Okay,

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So we're gonna have to go back up to two

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thousand and two to make this all come together. And

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Sandy was working at a newly established bar that was

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opening called Club Inferno, which was in Tampa, and there

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was a VIP bar within that club, and that was

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the area that Sandy was assigned to. Of course, she

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had tons of coworkers, but when one certain man was

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hired on as a bouncer, he immediately took a liking

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to Sandy. And this man was huge, Okay, big guy,

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exactly what you would expect in a bouncer, very intimidating,

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very his a presence at least was very intimidating, and

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the attraction was seemingly mutual because the two of them

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quickly became friends, and she took it upon herself to

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show him around and introduce him to everybody, and they

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really just kind of took an interest in one another.

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Now, as far as looks go.

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They seemed to be what we would say, they looked

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like a cute couple. You know. We used to say that,

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I guess when we were younger, because, like I said,

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Sandy was well fit did she loved to work out,

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And this guy was extremely fit as well.

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And his name was Timothy Humphrey. He was thirty five

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years old.

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He was six foot two, but very very muscular, with

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the charm and charisma to match. So he was originally

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from Iowa, but he had made his way to Florida

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as an adult. Now, he fancied himself a personal trainer

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and he had a reputation for being a damn good one.

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So he was extremely popular at the gym that he

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went to, and he had clients that would meet him there,

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And of course most of his clients were women. But

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his gentle yet driven coaching style is why they liked

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him so much, because he had that I don't know, guys,

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it's like, I guess what women look for in a movie.

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The guy that's rough and tumble and he can protect you,

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but when it comes to you, he treats you with

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kindness and he's tender, and so they really seem to

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like that. He was also soft spoken and funny, and

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it just sounded like a damn good package. You know.

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It didn't hurt that he was good looking, you know,

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and he was training you, I'm sure.

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that he had been.

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A former underwear model.

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I heard conflicting stories on who he would have modeled for,

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whether it was Hugo Boss or someone else, but either way,

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an underwear model and he was a pro football player

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with the Bucks for a short stint, so you can.

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Kind of get a full scope.

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Of what these two people were I guess like and

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they just looked good together. But either way, there definitely

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was some sexual tension in the air, even if there

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wasn't maybe long term relationship status gonna happen, but it

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was there. Now, his name was Timothy, like I told you,

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but he was known casually as Tracy. So you're not

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gonna hear me refer to him as Timothy in this

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He's gonna be Tracy. So the beginnings of any relationship,

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I'm sure we all know this. They are fun and

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they're exciting. But the couple also now worked together, and

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so that meant that they were always going to be

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around one another, and eventually that brand newness of the

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relationship wore off. That's normal, that's how it goes, guys.

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And as the months passed, that relationship mellowed out. And

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of course, once the lovey dovey honeymoon phase is over

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and the attraction hotness thing kind of mellows down, the

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natural disagreements started to rear their heads. So they would

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kind of go through these phases of being getting together

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and breaking back up. And everyone that worked with them

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knew the drama, knew they knew what was going on,

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and they all just kind of rolled their eyes on,

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like we go again with these two, and most people

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accepted that their relationship was one that would probably the

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best word.

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Be described as toxic. That was really what it looked like.

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And as timed time passed, it certainly looked like they

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were not a good fit emotionally, spiritually, mentally, just from

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the exterior so to speak. But I say this not

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because they just couldn't get along, but because this had

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somewhat escalated to be volatile at times, like gas on fire.

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It just just was going going the wrong way. So

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one morning in the early early hours, the volatility of

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this relationship really came to a head. Sandy had placed

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a call to one of her very, very good friends.

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Sandy was at the airport when she did this, and

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when her friend answered, Sandy was completely and totally beside herself.

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She was panicked and Demi're hysterical about what had just

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taken place. But she was at the airport, so it's like,

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what's going on here?

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Friend?

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And when she finally calmed down and was able to

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like get herself together, she was able to get the

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words out, explaining that Tracy had allegedly been holding her

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captive in her apartment for the past three days. Yeah,

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like days, would not let her leave. And not only

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would he not let her leave, according to Sandy, but

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the entire time that she was being held captive, he

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was assaulting her, yelling at her, and basically abusing her.

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And it was extremely traumatic. Now, why was she at

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the airport? I was very curious about this. So she

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was supposed to be flying to Pennsylvania, and other people

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knew she had plans to fly to Pennsylvania, and so

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he had to eventually let her go from the apartment.

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Or people would obviously figure this.

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Out, so he allowed her to leave so she wouldn't

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miss her flight, and he drove her to the airport. So,

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after speaking with her friend and kind of going through

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what Sandy said had happened, she was like, girl, you

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need to call the police. This isn't something that you know,

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oh he pushed you or or was yelling in your face.

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I mean, this is three days you've said that you've

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been basically held as a captive person. So Sandy went

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to the police with the story and they took it

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very seriously, as they should. They documented her injuries, and

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I'll tell you this, they were there and they spoke volumes.

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In one of the evidence photos, in particular, it shows

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Sandy with a black eye, like a very very black eye,

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and it was very reminiscent the second I saw it.

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If you were familiar with the Nicole Brown Simpson battery

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photos at the hands of OJ before her death, very

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very reminiscent of those photos. Needless to say, the relationship

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was completely over at this point. I mean, this was

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just a horrendous, multiple day episode of abuse. So Sandy,

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in her mind and talking to her friend, said I

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would rather be alone forever than deal with a man. Ever, again,

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that has anything to do with how Tracy treats a woman.

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This is insanity. So Tracy was arrested and he was

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charged for the incident, but he was released pending trial,

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and that trial would take place at a future date.

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So for now, they were told, you've got to stay

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away from each other. And Sandy was actually pleased with this.

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She didn't want to be around him, and he was

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going to have to await his day in court to

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tell his side. But Tracy was actually looking forward to

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this day in court because he was adamant. He was

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adamant to anyone that would listen, that that did not happen,

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and that it didn't happen the way she said it happened,

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and that he never abused Sandy when I tell you

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totally opposite stories, totally opposite, And he said, she is crazy.

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I don't know why people can't figure this out.

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She's absolutely crazy, and she is setting me up. This

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isn't This is a set up, you know, And now

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I have to go to court, which I don't mind

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because I want to tell my story. But how dare

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someone set me up like this? But the woman always wins.

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The woman always wins, and he was disgusted by the

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way that this had all unraveled. But people liked Tracy.

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They liked him.

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People and clients alike, people that knew him vouched that

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Tracy was a nice guy. Basically, Tracy was at a loss,

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and he admitted, Look, we did fight like anybody else.

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We argued, and we got in each other's faces, we

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both did. But I am no woman abuser, and you're

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crossing the line when you do this, and she's about

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to ruin my life and my reputation with her bullshit drama,

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and I am so done. He told everybody, I'm so done,

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and I will never deal with that woman ever again

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in my life. This is how people destroy people's reputations.

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And while none of us were there, we all know this,

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or we should know this, that there are two sides

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to every story, and it's usually somewhere in between where

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the truth really is. And even the best people can

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do unpleasant things whenever they get into a toxic relationship

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with someone. I think we all can recognize that. Okay, obviously,

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when you listen to my podcast, we know that there's

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some very very bad people in the world, but just

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in general, going day to day. Good people can do

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bad things, and good people can be set up and

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accused of bad things.

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So what was going on here? No one really knew

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the whole truth.

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It seemed like the good news, though, was that both

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sides agreed they were completely done with one another.

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So done.

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Tracy up and quit his job at Inferno. He didn't

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even want to be near her, nor I don't think

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he should have been around her or could because of

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the abuse charge. But he quit his job, and not

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only that, he freaking moved to another town to get

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away from her. He took another job at a gym

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in another town to not be anywhere near her.

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So some time passed. It was a good thing.

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Stuff kind of mellowed out, But sure enough Sandy actually

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did meet somebody else and she was ready to move on.

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And this guy was someone new to her.

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He was different than Tracy, and they just really hit

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it off. He was calmer, he seemed more her speed.

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So it was ten thirty pm on July fifth, two

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thousand and three, whenever Sandy got off of work from

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her job at a different bar. This time it was

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the Green Iguana Bar where she was working, She jumped

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in her car and she was headed home to Panella's

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Park where she lived, and her boyfriend Tony was waiting

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for her to get back. He knew that she should

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have gotten off her shift and it would take her

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a little while to come home. So it took her

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roughly thirty minutes or so to get home from the bar,

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and he was very tired. He I don't know if

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he worked all day or what, but he just like

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couldn't keep his eyes open. So he decided to go

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to bed early. But he knew she'd be home in

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just a short amount of time and it wasn't an issue.

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But some time later, he was jolted awake after he

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had dozed off because fireworks. Someone was shooting off fireworks

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and you know, these stupid ass people were probably still

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celebrating the Fourth of July, but I mean it scared

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him because it was loud and it was right outside

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of his window, so it scared him awake. He looked

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around a little bit and was like these morons, and

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then he just dozed off a bit. But then he

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woked back up a little while later and Sandy wasn't

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in the bed when he rolled over, so he started

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going through the house looking for but you know, where

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was she?

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She should have been in the bed. That's weird.

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Maybe she was up eating or something. So he's gone

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through the house, he's looking for her, and he can't

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find her anywhere. Now, it was eleven fifteen. It hadn't

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been that much time that had passed. It wasn't crazy late,

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but it was well enough time that she should have

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been home. So he said, let me go check the garage.

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He opens the garage door and her car is there.

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So her car is here and she's nowhere in the house.

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But as he looks to the right, he notices that

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there's broken glass all over the ground in the garage.

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So he's walking up to the car, like what the hell,

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and right as he approaches the driver's side window, he

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realizes Sandy is in the car, slumped over into the

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passenger seat, and she is bleeding profusely. Obviously, he panicked.

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He freaked out, Sandy, Sandy. He opened the door. He's

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trying to wake her up. Her cell phone was right there,

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so he grabbed it and immediately he dialed nine one one.

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I need help my girlfriend. Something's happened to her. She's bleeding.

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I don't know what's going on. So the ambulance and

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the police arrive very very quickly. They drag her out

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of the car. They started doing life saving measures, but

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they ultimately had to throw her in this ambulance and

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like haul ass to the hospital. They did not have

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time to wait stop Pasco collect two hundred dollars.

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She had to go now.

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It was like a whirlwind of things happening all at

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one time. Now detectives were sent to the house. Obviously

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Sandy has now been transported to the hospital. Two detectives

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on the case for sure were Harry Aguillo or a

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Gello however you want to pronounce that one, and Detective

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Scott Golswitzki. So these guys show up and they're looking

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through the scene here and based on what they knew

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about Sandy's condition so far, she had been shot. But

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she had been shot many times. Many times a weapon

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was fired. And I don't mean just one or two

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like you would expect in a robbery gone wrong, Like

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you know, maybe someone saw her BMW pull in, thought okay,

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easy lick here went up shot and stole her purse.

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This was eight shots, very intentional, and from the jump.

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Detectives did not believe that this was at random. Y'all

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have to express to you, in a random robbery to

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unload half a magazine is crazy, you know, unless you

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were maybe confronted. But Sandy was a woman slumped over

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in a car, so it just did not seem like

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this was at random. Eight shots is a lot, so Sandy.

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When she was pulled from the vehicle, they noticed she

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was just wearing blue jean shorts. She had on her

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tank top, very relaxed looking in terms of clothing, so

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she hadn't been clubbing or seemed like she had gone

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somewhere else after work.

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She knew for certain that she.

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Was being attacked because of the movement in the vehicle,

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so it looked of her the movement of her in

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the vehicle, so it looked like this was an ambush

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on her after she had put the car in park

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in the garage while she should have been or was

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assumed to have been, the lone person in the car

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driving the driver. So they're like, Okay, this was a

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single occupant person in this vehicle. She was found in

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the passenger's seat. She wasn't just slumped over in her

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driver's seat, but in the passenger seat. As you're probably

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picking up on this, she wasn't like sitting up like

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she had been executed as a passenger. It was like

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she noticed or saw the attacker come at her through

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the window or had a gun through the window, and

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she started just climbing or trying to get over that

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center console, but was just mowed down by bullets before

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she could get out the other side of the car.

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That's how the scene read. And you know, they weren't sure.

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Did someone smash out the glass with maybe the gun

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and then unloaded a barrage of shots at her, and

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that's why she started trying to escape out of the

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other side. She just never really had much time to

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react other than seeing it and then scrambling over the

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side of the car. That's kind of how the scene read.

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Other than that, wasn't much to it. It was kind

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of a simple scene. The home, nice middle class home.

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There wasn't any history at least on record at the

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house between Sandy and her boyfriend Tony as far as

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domestic violence went or any of that was concerned. But

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remember you should know this as a crime fan, true

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crime fan. Police obviously are going to start in the

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inner circle or people that were right there with them

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to gain insight as to what happened or what they

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last knew to have happened. So they bring Tony inside.

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They sit down at their dining room table, and investigators

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start asking him very specific questions about what he knew,

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and he told them exactly what I have already told

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you so far, nothing different. The fireworks went off. He

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looked for her a little bit later and then found

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her in the garage. So as Tony sat there, stunned

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and completely distraught, the phone rang. Just as soon as

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Sandy arrived at the hospital. She was pronounced dead. She

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had no chance zero. It's almost as if the and

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I don't know this for certain, but I know from

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experiences in my own life where I have found people

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I love deceased, that it was almost as if the

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ambulance showed up and put forth these heroic efforts just

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for Tony, almost because the wounds on this woman she

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could not have survived them. There's no way knowing what

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you're about to know. But when that was, when that

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happened and they knew for certain she was dead, the

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news had to be broken to Tony, obviously devastating and

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this was now officially a homicide investigation, and the reality

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that her wounds were not survivable should be just kind

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of at the forefront of your mind, because eight bullet

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holes in your body anywhere one alone could be deadly.

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But the autopsy would show that she had been shot

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literally no exaggeration, from head to toe. She had shots

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to her head. She had a shot to her right shoulder.

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It's in like the trap area, like if you rolled

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your shoulder forward, the meat that comes up.

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It was a shot to the trap area. The collarbone.

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Her right breast had three shots in it, and if

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I remember correctly, below her breast right like in the

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top of the rib area, there were two more rounds.

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She was shot through the foot. She also had a

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shot through her upper thigh area. I mean, it was

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like mowed down from top to bottom. She was so

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wounded that at her funeral the family had to give

475
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a closed casket because no one would ever want to

476
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.240
see her in that condition. Sandy would not have wanted

477
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.200
people to see her looking like that, and it just

478
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.839
flat out wasn't her. That's not what she looked like,

479
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:53.240
and they chose to just close the casket and spare people,

480
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.880
the hurt, the additional hurt of what this woman had experienced.

481
00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:01.359
The bullets that were recovered from her, as well as

482
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.720
some casings at the scene, confirmed that Sandy had been

483
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:08.440
shot with a twenty two caliber semi automatic pistol. Now,

484
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:09.880
if you're not a gun person, I do want to

485
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:12.359
tell you that is a smaller gun compared to like

486
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:15.359
a nine millimeter or forty or something like that. It

487
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:20.039
is smaller but just as deadly. So the question became

488
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:24.440
who owned that weapon and who would want Sandy dead.

489
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:28.400
So her boyfriend clearly going to be looked at. Here

490
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.000
he found her, they go, they're looking at him, they're

491
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.160
talking to him, they're asking questions. But I'll tell you

492
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:38.599
he was very, very quickly ruled out. As they spoke

493
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.599
to him. During the interview, he was like, you know,

494
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.720
I don't know what else to tell you. They asked him,

495
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.440
who hates Sandy? Did she have beef with somebody? Was

496
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.119
Did she have any enemies? And he's like, no, no,

497
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:55.240
everybody loved her. The only person who probably hated her

498
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.400
that I can even think of, but we haven't spoken

499
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:01.119
to him, would be her ex boyfriend. They had drama

500
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:05.240
and he gave the name Tracy to the police, and

501
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:07.839
so the police looked into this guy. Obviously, hello, that's

502
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.039
like a red flack. But Tracy was now almost fifty

503
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:13.680
minutes away from the murder scene. Remember I told you

504
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:17.200
he moved to a different town. So on July the seventh,

505
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.039
which would have been two days after the murder, police

506
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:23.240
made the drive to nearby Brandon, Florida, and they were

507
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.920
able to locate Tracy, or at least locate his apartment

508
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.960
to talk to him. They knocked, but he was not home,

509
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.839
so they left a card in the door and asked

510
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.880
him to contact them back at that information.

511
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:38.759
And then they continued on down.

512
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.640
Their list of acquaintances, friends, family, anything that they could

513
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.480
think of. Basically, anyone in her inner circle was spoken to. Now,

514
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:51.039
once that entire list was exhausted and no further links

515
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:54.920
whatsoever were made between those people and the murder, police

516
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:59.839
moved on and they wanted to speak to anyone that

517
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.160
I have information, But there were really no other leads.

518
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:04.480
Gained in this case.

519
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.319
The same name that kept coming up when talking to

520
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.720
the inner circle was Tracy and it was all because

521
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.000
of that last incident where he was arrested after he

522
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:16.079
allegedly had.

523
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.559
Hurt her all those months before.

524
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.559
It worked out though, that they had gone and left

525
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.440
the card because Tracy, when he got back home later on,

526
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.759
he did return the officer's call request and he says, yes,

527
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.440
I will absolutely come meet you and we can talk

528
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:33.000
in person.

529
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.640
So they met up with him at the gym.

530
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:40.160
But by the time that the police, the time passed

531
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:41.960
by the time Tracy called back, and then the police

532
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:43.440
went and they set up the appointment and they met

533
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:47.319
him at the gym. Tracy had spoken to his attorney

534
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.960
on that pending assault case with Sandy, and he was

535
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.279
advised by his attorney, under no circumstances do you need

536
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:59.200
to be speaking to the police for any reason. And

537
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:01.640
Tracy was like, yeah, but my ex girlfriend is dead.

538
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.160
Like I'm trippin', what do I do? I mean, I've

539
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.240
got to talk to him, And his attorney said, because

540
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.200
especially because she's dead, do not talk to them. You're

541
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.200
in the middle of a pending case where you have

542
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:15.440
been accused of abusing her. Do not talk to the

543
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.839
police now that she's ended up dead, because you're gonna

544
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.680
be the obvious suspect here. And that is a terrible idea.

545
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:26.920
Absolutely terrible idea. So while he appreciated the police coming

546
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:31.400
and he was shocked that Sandy was dead, he was

547
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.720
just sickened by it because you know, they fought, but

548
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.960
he didn't want her dead. There's a difference between fighting

549
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.519
with someone and breaking up and wanting them dead. You know,

550
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.319
big jump there, But he said, I just I'm so sorry,

551
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:46.079
but I have to look out for myself at this

552
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:50.839
point because you know, hopefully they could appreciate the predicament

553
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.519
he was in, and they obviously could see this predicament.

554
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.519
He can't win. He can't win no matter what he does.

555
00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:58.200
I've been accused of hurting her. Now she's dead.

556
00:29:58.200 --> 00:29:58.799
What the fuck?

557
00:29:58.960 --> 00:29:59.160
You know?

558
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.480
I'm in a bad spot.

559
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.440
So there wasn't much left to do there, and the

560
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.640
police left and said, all right, I appreciate your time,

561
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:11.279
and they continued their investigation, which also included getting subpoenas

562
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:17.039
for Tracy's a multitude of Tracy's records, because just because

563
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:18.759
he wouldn't speak didn't mean that they didn't want to

564
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.640
rule him in or out as a suspect. So they

565
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.319
pulled things like phone records, bank records, criminal records, anything

566
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.680
they could on this guy. And in doing so, they

567
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:35.200
realized that Tracy was actually a newlywed. Yeah, like he

568
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:40.079
got married to somebody else. Why would he or would

569
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:44.680
he even be wrapped up in his ex possibly thought

570
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.240
to be murdering her if he was with someone so

571
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:51.359
special that he just married her. He literally had been

572
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.759
married gotten married the day before the murder. To be exact,

573
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:57.359
I want to tell you how weird it was. He

574
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:01.400
was married the day before she was murdered. So that

575
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.559
would mean that he would have been on his honeymoon

576
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:06.759
most likely, assuming right, you get married and go in

577
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.599
your honeymoon. So regardless, Okay, let's go talk to his

578
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.640
new wife. Let's go see who she is and if

579
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:16.440
she has anything to add. Now, her name was Ashley

580
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:21.519
Laney and now Humphrey because they got married. But they

581
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:25.240
found her to be a young little thing upon meeting

582
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.240
up with her. She was only twenty years old. Twenty

583
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:34.920
years old, petit, and absolutely in love with her new husband,

584
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.240
who was about fifteen years her senior.

585
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.720
Okay, so he got him a little young thing. Now.

586
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.559
Police asked to talk with her, which she readily accepted

587
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:47.119
and answered all of their questions. She was at home

588
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:50.039
whenever they wanted to talk to her, and so they

589
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:51.880
went and they met her at the apartment where they

590
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.039
had originally left the card, and she explained to them, Yeah,

591
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:59.079
we got married on July the fourth, and we didn't

592
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.640
have a lot of money, so we actually did not

593
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.039
go on a honeymoon, nor did we have a huge ceremony.

594
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.039
That just wasn't what we could do. What they did

595
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.440
go do is they got matching tattoos as the symbol

596
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:14.960
of their love. I would, okay, not trying to be

597
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.880
ugly here, but I would describe these as tramp stamps.

598
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.480
It's on the lower back and it looked like tribal flame.

599
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.319
They both got one. It looks like tribal flames on

600
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.519
either side, and then in the middle they each got

601
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:32.400
each other's name, so it said Tracy on Ashley's back,

602
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.920
and it said Ashley on Tracy's back. So they didn't

603
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.039
go on a big trip or anything, like I said,

604
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.000
but they did commemorate everything with those tattoos.

605
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:42.240
She said, we went out to.

606
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:46.440
Eat at the cheesecake factory after our paperwork was notarized,

607
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.119
and that was about it. We didn't have a big,

608
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.519
huge celebration, but y'all, she thought it was sweet. They

609
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.559
didn't have a lot, and it was kind of like,

610
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:57.200
you know, oh.

611
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:01.640
We're halfway there, living on a prayer.

612
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.079
You know, that dream of we don't have anything, but

613
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.880
we'll make it together type stuff. Do you love my singing?

614
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:11.400
If you don't, sorry? But how did they come to

615
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:13.920
be married and how did they know one another? So

616
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.279
let me explain that to you. They had met by

617
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.680
chance when she had gone into the gym where he

618
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:20.440
was working, because she was looking to sign up and

619
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.519
get a member a membership there. Tracy was the fitness

620
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.279
director and so he also helped out with sales. You know,

621
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:28.559
he kind of knew the full scale of the operation

622
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.720
and very quickly from the time that they met and

623
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.240
he showed her around, that relationship took off. But they

624
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.400
both had originally considered to considered it to be somewhat

625
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.279
of a friends with benefits type situation. It wasn't like

626
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:47.680
this full on relationship. But eventually Ashley was working in

627
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.119
a strip mall nearby. I think she was working at

628
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.039
like a SMOOTHI King or something. Don't quote me on that,

629
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.319
but she was working in the strip mall. She ended

630
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:57.880
up quitting that job and she got a job working

631
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.079
at the gym with Tracy.

632
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:00.880
That happened.

633
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.400
That's whenever it evolved into them becoming an exclusive pair.

634
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:06.880
They just really loved to be around each other. She

635
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:11.519
was over the moon at this change too, and people

636
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:15.159
they spoke to vouched for this. Her hairdresser, for example,

637
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:16.960
when she went and got her hair done, she was

638
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.840
all smiles and cheer and was just talking about how

639
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.559
in love and how amazing this was. And while he

640
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.760
listened and he smiled, it was more of one of

641
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:30.000
those I love that for you type smiles and listening

642
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.960
because he knew Tracy, and he also knew the drama

643
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.440
that Tracy and Sandy had had and he was kind

644
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.960
of like, ugh, if this is anything like that, this

645
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:41.199
ain't going to turn out well. But I love that

646
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.119
for you. And he was a hairdresser. He did not

647
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.360
want to get into all of the mess and all

648
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.159
of the drama, so he just did her hair, kept

649
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:53.119
his mouth shut, and went about his days. But he

650
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:57.239
knew there had been drama. Now, after Ashley moved in

651
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.320
with Tracy, that's whenever he did come clean to her

652
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.880
and say, look, I have an ex girlfriend.

653
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.559
Her name is Sandy. She pressed charges on me for

654
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.039
allegedly beating her. I didn't do it.

655
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.760
She's batshit crazy and she's jealous, and you know, she's

656
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.920
already even moved on, like I've moved on. But I

657
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:19.519
want you to know that I don't want that to

658
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:20.840
be a surprise to you because I do have to

659
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.719
go to court and explain all of this away.

660
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.280
So she even knew about that.

661
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:30.679
So when asked specifically, what did you do the day

662
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.960
after your wedding, it was very much the same. We

663
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:38.760
just hung out at home. We ordered pizza and another

664
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.800
friend was there. She stayed till about one o'clock in

665
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:45.639
the morning or so, and then she left. Well, as

666
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:51.639
they're speaking about that, Tracy walks into the apartment and

667
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.639
when he sees the police in the apartment talking to

668
00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:02.199
his wife, he immediately becomes pissed. I'm talking anger, ree,

669
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:07.679
we probably need to clap those angery, like mad, mad,

670
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.639
big mad that the police were there. And he was

671
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:14.079
big mad because he said, I already told you that.

672
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:18.159
My lawyer said that we should not talk to you.

673
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.480
Is this is you know a problem because I've already

674
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:22.880
told you this. And they kind of looked at him

675
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.360
and like, look, bro, your attorney said you shouldn't talk

676
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.239
to us. They never said your wife shouldn't talk to us,

677
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.039
but he obviously was irritated by this. Of course his

678
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.800
wife shouldn't say anything, but she didn't know that she

679
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:34.840
shouldn't say anything.

680
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:35.920
I mean, it is what it is.

681
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.800
And immediately the wife, you know, is deer in the headlights,

682
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.920
her eyes get big, realizing, oh shit, the police already

683
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.000
talked to you, and I didn't know. Your attorney said

684
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.519
not to say anything, and she felt like an idiot.

685
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.800
She felt like an absolute idiot. I'm so sorry. I

686
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:53.679
didn't know, but I mean I literally only told him

687
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.000
what you know about her wedding or whatever. She was

688
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.400
aware of the pending charges he had told her, but

689
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.400
she was also adamant we were ready to defend him

690
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:09.079
in court when the day came. It never occurred to

691
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.960
her that Ashley, or it never occurred to Ashley that

692
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:16.559
her husband may be an issue in an actual murder

693
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:20.639
investigation because he was with her when the murder happened.

694
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.360
So it never occurred to her that in any way,

695
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.920
shape or form that would affect that the ex girlfriend

696
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:30.920
had been murdered. Okay, so she had never spoken to Sandy.

697
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:34.079
She had never even seen Sandy before. Sandy was not

698
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.719
in contact with them whatsoever, and she was really a

699
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:41.400
non issue in their lives. So while her murder was absolutely,

700
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.800
you know, devastating and horrific in general, you know, the

701
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.119
wife didn't know her and so she was young and

702
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.320
just didn't realize how that could be a problem. So

703
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:54.519
when the police left, they got in their cars and

704
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:57.480
they kind of still were looking at each other, going

705
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:02.320
they were just calling bullshit on on her whole story.

706
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.320
They thought that she was possibly covering for him or

707
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.239
something else based on how angry he had gotten. It

708
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.800
wasn't that Ashley seemed to be untruthful, it was that

709
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.559
he seemed to be kind of the ringleader here of

710
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.079
their relationship, and the joke was going to be on him,

711
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.239
according to these detectives, because all they had to do

712
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.599
was track down where he had supposedly bought a pizza

713
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.599
that night, and they could kind of tear down the

714
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:33.400
whole alibi from there. But sure as shit, there was

715
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:37.559
a pizza ordered by Tracy and his wife the night

716
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:41.679
of Sandy's murder. They were really surprised. Detectives were surprised

717
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.000
by this. They just knew that he was lying, but

718
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.119
it was true. It was on his credit card statement

719
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.079
when they got those reports in. So they said, well,

720
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.599
maybe they didn't actually eat pizza. Maybe they ordered one,

721
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:57.440
but they didn't actually eat it. So police went to

722
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.920
the actual pizza place and they spoke to them and said,

723
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.599
there was a pizza order this night.

724
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:04.159
It shows that it was delivered.

725
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:08.559
Who delivered this pizza if anybody, Well, they get the driver,

726
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.119
the delivery driver, and they talked to him and he says,

727
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:12.719
you know, he looks at it and everything.

728
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.639
He goes, no, I no, I did.

729
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:17.199
I delivered a pizza to that address the night of

730
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.280
July the fifth, and the exact time stamp that it

731
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:24.360
was delivered was eleven fifty one PM. And they said, okay,

732
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.159
can you identify who signed for the pizza or who

733
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:28.159
you gave the pizza? Two?

734
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.000
And you said, oh, yeah it was he was a

735
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.000
pretty obvious guy.

736
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.519
You know, I noticed him. And so he was shown

737
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.559
a photo of Tracy and to the detectives seriously, to

738
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.079
their shock, he goes, yep, one percent, that is the

739
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.360
guy that I gave the pizza. Two. They said, in person,

740
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.679
you handed him this pizza? He said, absolutely, there is

741
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.039
no denying that is the house and that.

742
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.800
Is who took this pizza. So no freaking way, y'all.

743
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:56.800
It was true, though, it was true, And this is

744
00:39:56.840 --> 00:40:01.719
where you realize that tunnel vision and that it's got

745
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:06.760
to be avoided no matter how viable a suspect may look,

746
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:11.559
because based on the timeline alone, there is no way,

747
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:15.960
there's no physical way that Tracy could have shot Sandy

748
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:20.480
at eleven fifteen pm and then been home in time

749
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.079
to sign for this pizza.

750
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:23.159
It's just not. It's not.

751
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.719
There's no possibility of that. The drive alone would have

752
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.119
taken too long. So then the wheels started turning on

753
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:30.719
detectives and they're like, well, what if he had been

754
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.239
speeding the whole time and the shooting was more like

755
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:35.679
ten point fifty pm.

756
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:37.679
What if the timeline is a little skewed.

757
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:42.280
So police looked at Tracy's phone records that they had pulled,

758
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.480
and sure enough, Tracy's phone was bouncing off of a

759
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:51.480
tower right near his home literally the time of the murder.

760
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.360
So no matter what angle they looked at, Tracy was

761
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.360
telling the truth. There's no way around this. Even if

762
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.159
he looked like a great suspect, it just wasn't working.

763
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:06.000
During their brief interview with his wife, Ashley, she had

764
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.119
told them, if you remember, that a friend was eating

765
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.679
pizza with them the night that that murder had taken place,

766
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:15.039
and she actually gave them a name, and the name

767
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:20.239
that she gave was Toby. Toby was found to be

768
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:24.599
a client at the gym of Tracy's. So police decided

769
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:27.239
they wanted to talk to this Toby woman, and she

770
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.360
agreed to meet with them. And when asked, what were

771
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.280
you doing the night of and I'm going to say

772
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.840
the murder, but they said the night of that date.

773
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.880
They were again surprised.

774
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:42.079
Because she said, I was with Tracy, my trainer, and

775
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.840
his wife, Ashley. It was the fifth and we were

776
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.519
eating pizza and we were watching TV. There was like

777
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.480
nothing more to it. She said, I left the house

778
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.719
around twelve thirty one am, as best as I can remember.

779
00:41:56.159 --> 00:42:01.039
Her story also aligned perfectly with the other with the couples,

780
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.079
So it was back to the drawing board. They had

781
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.440
really just drug that whole theory into the mud. No

782
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.559
matter how much they felt like it was true, it

783
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:13.639
just it wasn't. So police dug and dug and dug,

784
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.519
but nothing was drumming up any further leads no matter

785
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.440
what angle they went. So speaking with the family of

786
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:25.840
Sandy still all these weeks later, they all kept bringing

787
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.320
up Tracy's name.

788
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:28.559
But here's the thing.

789
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.920
The family had obvious beef with him. She said that

790
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.239
he beat her up. Of course they think that he

791
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.360
killed her. That's not If someone will hit you, they

792
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.199
will kill you. I've said that for as long as

793
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:44.960
I can remember, because it's true. So the police kept thinking,

794
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.039
even though they realized that there was obvious beef there

795
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.480
and the family was angry about that, they just had

796
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:52.480
to keep working the case. And the evidence has to

797
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.119
the evidence has to back of what they are trying

798
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:59.039
to find here, and that's whenever they decided they would

799
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.920
pull ashley phone records for the night of the murder.

800
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.119
Now this would open up a whole new world, a

801
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.760
whole new world.

802
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:13.159
Of investigation for these detectives, because when Ashley's phone data

803
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:17.199
came back, it turned out that her phone wasn't pinging

804
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.039
off of the same tower as the one near her home,

805
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:25.679
So they mapped out her calls and turns out that

806
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:31.320
she was near the Iguana bar as well as near

807
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:37.400
a tower near Sandy's home the night of the murder Bingo.

808
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.519
So police now felt that Ashley was way more involved

809
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.360
in this than she was saying. Coincidences like this aren't

810
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:52.280
by chance. Coincidences are not real, Okay, But who was Ashley?

811
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.239
And was that tiny little girl that had never met

812
00:43:56.239 --> 00:44:01.000
Sandy a day in her life? Was she capable of murder? Well,

813
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.280
they looked into her background. Who was this girl? Well,

814
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:08.599
Ashley did not know her dad, which was evidence because

815
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:10.960
he was in prison before she was even born. Her

816
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:14.039
dad was in prison on sexual battery charges. By the way,

817
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:18.519
her mother struggled with substance abuse. She was an alcoholic.

818
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.960
And so Ashley had been raised by her grandmother and

819
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:26.679
she did great, absolutely wonderful whenever her grandmother was raising her.

820
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:30.519
But her grandma died Ashley's senior year of high school.

821
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:33.800
So right here is where you expect me to say,

822
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.039
and that's when she went downhill. That's not the case

823
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:42.320
at all. Ashley kept her shit together. She managed to

824
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.360
graduate high school. Not only did she graduate, she graduated

825
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.280
with honors from her high school. She took a job

826
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.360
in that strip mall across from the gym where Tracy worked,

827
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.599
which they later met and you know that whole story.

828
00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:00.320
But most importantly, Ashley had no criminal record. She was

829
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.599
a good person by all accounts, did not matter who

830
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:05.320
they spoke to.

831
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.159
This is a good person.

832
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.400
Shitty home life out of the gate for certain, but

833
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:16.079
a good person and nowhere near anyone who would ever

834
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:21.039
have murder on their mind. Plus, Toby had directly told

835
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:25.480
police that she was with Ashley and Tracy the night

836
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:30.679
of the murder. Something was wrong here. Ray Charles could

837
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.039
see this. There is something amiss about this. So police

838
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.119
went back to Toby and they said we want to

839
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:42.840
talk to you. She comes in and they put in

840
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.639
front of her Ashley's phone records that show that Ashley,

841
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.199
or at least her phone, was nowhere near her home

842
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.559
that night. She was down near that iguana bar. How

843
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.320
could it be? You said she was with you, How

844
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:02.039
could that be? But also they asked her this question.

845
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.880
Not only that, but right after the murder is believed

846
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:11.280
to have happened, Ashley is calling Tracy. So Toby, how

847
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:15.719
could this be if you were with them both? How

848
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.000
could her phone be there? And let's say her phone,

849
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.239
she was with her phone there, why would she be

850
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:25.239
calling Tracy if they're supposed to be sitting next to

851
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.320
each other with you, Toby, make us understand this.

852
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:32.599
So Toby's confronted with this.

853
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.679
Hard evidence, like black and white, right in front of her,

854
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:41.639
and it scared her. It absolutely scared her, and she said, look,

855
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:44.360
I really I really need to talk to y'all.

856
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.000
Some things have changed.

857
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:52.719
So to start, when the police told her about the

858
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.880
phone records, she was kind of like, you know, I don't.

859
00:46:57.639 --> 00:46:59.280
I don't let me see this. Are you are you?

860
00:46:59.440 --> 00:46:59.960
Are you sure?

861
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.239
And they turned the records around and she saw it

862
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.119
with her own eyes, right there on the paper on

863
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:08.119
the reports. And that is when she realized that her

864
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.119
good friend had lied to her, her very good friend.

865
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.599
So let me explain from her point of view, Toby said,

866
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.360
I have never, ever in my time having known Tracy,

867
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.519
I've never seen him be the least bit aggressive and

868
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.199
I've never seen him be violent ever, not one time.

869
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.400
So whenever he told her about being set up by

870
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:37.800
his ex girlfriend, and she said her name was Sandy,

871
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:39.960
he told me that he was set up by her

872
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.239
for abuse charges, she said, I could not believe that.

873
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.719
No way, not my friend, there's no way. Well, he

874
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:50.840
had come to her recently and he had asked her

875
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:55.239
Toby to cover for him because he didn't want to

876
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:59.400
go to prison based on that set up by Sandy.

877
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.840
So because of all of this, she felt like at

878
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:08.280
the time she was helping out a true friend because

879
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:11.639
he was obviously being railroaded by the courts. Sandy had

880
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:16.760
set him up on a bogus charge, and she had

881
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.760
no idea, none, that this was anything in any form

882
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:26.440
of relationship to a murder investigation. She said, I didn't

883
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.840
know this, That's not what I thought. And he had

884
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:34.559
convinced her to establish an alibi for him, and she

885
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.360
did so because she thought that he was, you know,

886
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.320
because of the whole being railroaded by the court system,

887
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:42.079
because of being set up.

888
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:43.400
So I hope you're following this.

889
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:47.440
She had no idea about this, this murder investigation. But

890
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:50.199
once those reports were put in front of her, the

891
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:54.719
phone records, and she saw that Ashley's cell phone was

892
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.960
over where this murder occurred, that's when everything, all the

893
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.400
you know, all the bricks started tumbling in her and

894
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.880
she's like, oh my god, I've been severely lied to here.

895
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:05.719
This is not what I signed up for. Yes, I lied,

896
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:08.440
but I lied on the premise of something else. I

897
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:13.079
didn't know this was the case, she said. I even ran.

898
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:16.559
I believed him wholeheartedly. And I actually had run into

899
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:20.039
Ashley the night of the murder and they said, Okay,

900
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.000
do tell, she said, but she was at the gym.

901
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:25.320
She was at the gym. I saw her face to face.

902
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.760
I was there. I saw her at the gym. Ashley

903
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.840
wasn't feeling good, she wasn't in good spirits. And so

904
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.800
we had chatted. Toby said, I felt I knew they

905
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.280
were newlyweds. I felt really bad for the both of

906
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.199
them that this woman was trying to ruin their lives.

907
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:45.920
And even more surprising to Toby was that Ashley didn't

908
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.280
seem to know that she was lying for Tracy about

909
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:52.079
his whereabouts.

910
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:52.880
That when they.

911
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.039
Talked about at the gym, Ashley was like, oh, okay, cool, whatever.

912
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.440
I mean, this isn't fair for the way that he

913
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.800
has been set up. Ashley had found that out later.

914
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:06.400
So Toby was now worried for herself. But she said,

915
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:08.559
but let me explain something to you. I was so

916
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:12.400
worried for them and scared for that couple, this newlywed couple.

917
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:13.119
She said.

918
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:17.159
They even moved in to my house with me at

919
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:22.480
one point because Ashley's dad was supposedly threatening the couple.

920
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:24.039
But I want to bring something up to you here

921
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.039
as a listener. Why would Ashley's dad be threatening the

922
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:31.079
couple whenever he was locked up supposedly, you know what

923
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:33.920
I'm saying, in prison? So why would you be threatening Ashley?

924
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:37.199
Like that whole thing there was just confusing. But after

925
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:41.199
they moved in with her Tracy, he seemed to be

926
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:45.639
keeping eyes on Toby and was watching her every movements

927
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.519
and who she was talking to, and that whole thing

928
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.840
was kind of given her the creeps. And now she's

929
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:53.639
wrapped up in the middle of this she and she

930
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.199
was absolutely horrified by everything. She was in absolute just

931
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.960
a whirlwind of emotions of everything that was going on.

932
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:03.559
So police got down to the nut cutting and they

933
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:07.760
gave her an offer. Toby, will you wear a wire

934
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:12.239
for us and go in and ask your friends some

935
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:16.599
questions over time? Or would you rather be charged with

936
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.039
an accessory after the fact since you have now lied

937
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.679
and helped to cover up, potentially cover up a murder

938
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:26.320
that we're trying to solve. Obviously she agrees, Hell, yeah,

939
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:28.639
I will be an informant because this is not what

940
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:31.519
I signed up for. So she became an informant for

941
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:37.840
three months. So surveillance was on Tracy and Ashley. Basically

942
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:42.800
this entire time, Toby was wired up and police would

943
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.000
give her prompts of things to talk about, to bring

944
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:49.320
up whatever. And police, though, weren't just throwing Toby out

945
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.800
there on her own. They were actually watching every time

946
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:56.159
from a surveillance van and they recorded not only video

947
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:58.679
of this, but they were streaming live audio from the

948
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.360
wire as it was going down out And in one

949
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:06.719
specific interaction, Toby told the couple, guys, we gotta talk

950
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.559
because I have just been served with papers and they're like,

951
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:11.519
what do you mean? They're like standing in a parking lot,

952
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:16.039
and she says, I was served with paperwork that proves

953
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:20.199
that Ashley's cell phone was actually near the murder and

954
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:26.280
not near y'all's home. When she says this, Tracy's physical

955
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:31.559
reaction is extremely telling. He groans, He literally groans like

956
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.559
a oh man, like that type of groan. He puts

957
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:38.079
his hands over his eyes and his head, and he's

958
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:41.280
like rubbing up and down on his face. But what

959
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:46.199
he says accompanied with that, like guttural groan, and that

960
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.960
stressed out look is what gets police because he says, quote,

961
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.000
that was the one thing I was hoping wouldn't be true.

962
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.800
And Ashley goes, oh my god, just like that, Oh

963
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:03.840
my god. And there's like this stunned silence between all

964
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:05.800
three of them, just kind of like staring at each

965
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:09.079
other in the shock of it. Then Tracy leans over,

966
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:12.000
he pulls in tiny little Ashley, wraps her up in

967
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:13.679
his arms, and gives her a hug. That's kind of

968
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:18.599
like it's gonna be okay, okay. So again, that's not

969
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:21.320
like dunk dah, you know, gavel drop, but it sure

970
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.760
was telling that something was a miss here. So police

971
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:26.840
then realize in that moment, oh, we've been on the

972
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:30.000
right track all along. Something happened that they know about,

973
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:33.559
but what is it. They wanted to place them both

974
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:37.639
under arrest in that moment, but unfortunately they didn't have

975
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:41.760
enough to arrest Tracy. Absolutely they had enough for Ashley,

976
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:46.960
but not Tracy. That said, they felt as though they

977
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.320
were gonna have an issue with Tracy becoming a flight

978
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.679
risk and they didn't want that to happen if they

979
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:57.159
arrested Ashley. Tracy was gonna take off. They really felt

980
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:59.320
that that was the case, so they needed to arrest

981
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.559
them both. But how can you do that without probable cause?

982
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.920
There was nothing to arrest Tracy on. They've got to

983
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.800
follow the law, they've got to follow the constitution here.

984
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:11.559
They've got to have a legitimate reason to arrest him,

985
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:15.159
and just feeling like he did something is not enough. Well,

986
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:20.360
this would require some good old fashioned creative thinking and

987
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:23.480
police work. So they go back to the drawing board

988
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:26.440
to figure it out. And those same credit card records

989
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.199
that showed Tracy order a pizza would actually give the

990
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:35.079
police an additional gift there, because scouring the records they

991
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:39.239
found a charge for a local firing range. Now, look,

992
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.000
it's America, you do you You can go to a

993
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:48.000
gun rage all day long, shoot it up, unless you

994
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:54.000
are a convicted felon. Yeah, because looking into Tracy's criminal history,

995
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:59.119
it turned out that he was a convicted felon on

996
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:02.880
a prior charge, not the supposed beating up with Sandy.

997
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:09.039
Another one that said he could go to arrange. Sure,

998
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.960
you can walk in, but you cannot fire a gun

999
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:17.519
because that would be a felon in possession of a firearm,

1000
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:19.360
which is a criminal charge.

1001
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:23.079
So why would you go to arrange if you weren't

1002
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:23.840
going to go shooting?

1003
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.119
Well, thinking ahead, they figured he was going to say

1004
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.199
something to that effect that, oh I went with someone else,

1005
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:30.760
Oh I never touched a gun.

1006
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:31.559
Blah blah blah.

1007
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.440
So the detectives went to that range and they spoke

1008
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:38.039
to the employees who confirmed that not only had Tracy

1009
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:41.360
been there and rented a lane to shoot on with

1010
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:44.599
his credit card, but they had to oversee all of that,

1011
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.920
and Tracy was absolutely one hundred percent not only holding

1012
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:51.760
a gun, but they said he was teaching a woman

1013
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:57.320
how to shoot. Whoop, there it is got him. They

1014
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:01.320
knew they had what they needed now. In further investigation,

1015
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:06.400
detectives also found that Ashley had borrowed a gun from

1016
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:10.559
her mother's boyfriend, so in speaking with him, he was

1017
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.239
able to confirm that the gun she borrowed. She said

1018
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.679
that she needed it for protection, and when they asked

1019
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:16.920
her what caliber.

1020
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:20.239
Was it, it was a twenty two pistol all right.

1021
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:24.000
So Tracy and Ashley were working at the gym, having

1022
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:27.400
just another final day when multiple police units rolled up,

1023
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:32.760
walked in and took them both into custody. But this

1024
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:38.159
isn't near the end of this episode. So Ashley was

1025
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:43.079
arrested and she was charged with Sandra's murder, okay, But

1026
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:47.599
Tracy was arrested on felon in possession of a firearm,

1027
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:52.360
a real charge, y'all, but really being used as a

1028
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.599
temporary hold of sorts. It was one hundred percent legitimate.

1029
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:56.880
I don't want it to seem like it was fake.

1030
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:00.360
It was legitimate. But it was just basically to hold

1031
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.480
him behind bars for now and buy them some time

1032
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:06.039
where they could build the solid case against him for

1033
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:08.519
at least involvement in Sandra's murder.

1034
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:09.679
Because here's the deal.

1035
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:13.599
If he were to go to court on August fourth,

1036
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:19.840
just one month to the day after Sandy was murdered, okay,

1037
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:24.039
that was the court date for the Sandy charge. He

1038
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:26.800
was scheduled to go to court exactly one month to

1039
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:31.840
the day after Sandy was killed, And if Sandy would

1040
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:36.159
have gone and testified at that trial, he would have

1041
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:40.039
been looking at serious prison time because you know what

1042
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:44.039
else the police found out. Tracy wasn't just a felon,

1043
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:50.239
but he was also actively on parole, actively on parole.

1044
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:54.559
This charge, if he was convicted, would become what's called

1045
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:57.400
an enhancement, and this would send him right back to

1046
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:04.159
prison for ten years. He absolutely had the motive to

1047
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.639
want Sandra dead, and the police felt like he used

1048
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:11.880
his wife, Ashley to do it. So when Ashley was

1049
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.559
brought in to the station and she was advised of

1050
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.079
the charges against her murder, I want you to think

1051
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.599
about that real quick. The police look at you and say, hi,

1052
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:23.280
you're under arrest and you're being charged with someone's murder.

1053
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:27.119
Her reaction, What would your reaction be? I know that

1054
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.920
I would be like, oh, fuck, okay. From at minimum

1055
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.119
that would be what I would be thinking. But Ashley's

1056
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:36.159
reaction was less than apologetic at best.

1057
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.519
She really didn't react at all.

1058
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.320
Actually, when they asked her if she understood, They're like,

1059
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.360
do you understand these charges? And she just kind of

1060
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:47.440
like said, yeah, I'm under arrest for a murder of

1061
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:49.599
a woman. I didn't even know. That's what she said

1062
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:54.320
to them. It was almost combative and dismissive in nature.

1063
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.880
So police asked her a few questions, and you would

1064
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.639
think that this chick had.

1065
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:02.880
Been in trouble before or something.

1066
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:05.360
You would think that she had done this before because

1067
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:10.119
she said nothing even whenever she was given an option

1068
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:14.880
to minimize what could have happened, nothing. Twenty seven different

1069
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.440
times she restated the same thing. She said, get my lawyer,

1070
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.599
Get my lawyer, Get me a lawyer, just like that,

1071
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:25.239
over and over and over, and I want you to

1072
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:27.519
know something. It's not just the words that she said,

1073
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.079
get me a lawyer. It was angry and it was

1074
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:33.760
defiant the way she says it, there were no tears,

1075
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:37.800
there was no crying, nothing. She actually casually grabs her drink,

1076
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:42.039
opens it takes a sip like this was just another

1077
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:46.280
day and this would soon pass. When asked her, or

1078
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.440
when asked of her, can we get consent to search

1079
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:50.039
your house? She looked them in the eyes and said,

1080
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:53.360
get my attorney. They said, will you consent to giving

1081
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:54.000
your DNA?

1082
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:59.599
And she said it just like this, get me my attorney.

1083
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:01.199
Very defiant.

1084
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:05.440
She claims that she didn't do it, but when accused formally,

1085
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:10.519
she didn't even protest at all. She didn't even proclaim

1086
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:11.280
her innocence and.

1087
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:12.679
Say you're wrong, I didn't do this.

1088
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.920
All she does is clam up and get a lawyer. Now,

1089
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:19.960
from from a lawyer perspective, she did great. Okay, from

1090
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.239
a defense attorney perspective, she did exactly what you're supposed

1091
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.800
to do, shut up and ask for a lawyer. She

1092
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:29.119
wasn't saying a damn thing. But the following Monday, okay,

1093
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:31.239
that was like a week of Friday, I believe the

1094
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:36.840
following Monday, when she did get to speak to her attorney,

1095
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.000
it was made very clear to her by said attorney

1096
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:44.440
that this was not an accident, that this was not

1097
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:48.480
an improper arrest. And baby girl, you're not going home.

1098
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:53.119
Just so you know, you are facing either life in

1099
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:57.800
prison or the death penalty if you are found guilty

1100
01:00:57.840 --> 01:00:58.599
of this, like.

1101
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:00.840
You need to really back it up step and realize.

1102
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:03.719
This ain't the fucking movies, babe, this is real life.

1103
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.000
If there's something you know that could help you, you

1104
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.880
better say something. So it was at this point that

1105
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.440
Ash was ready to roll the dice. She said, I

1106
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:19.360
didn't do it. Sorry, let the cards fall where they may.

1107
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:23.719
Let's go to court. But as some time passed and

1108
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:27.280
she sat behind bars, her attorney, to her attorney's credit,

1109
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:32.119
was having some serious realizations as she was thumbing through

1110
01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:36.320
the evidence, and this included the fact that Tracy was

1111
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.800
now claiming full ignorance of this whole murder.

1112
01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:44.280
He knew nothing. He knew absolutely nothing.

1113
01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:47.599
About this murder. He said that Ashley did this on

1114
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:50.800
her own. He knew nothing of it. He should not

1115
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:54.639
even be a part of this. So her attorney, by

1116
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:56.119
the way, was a female, and I think that really

1117
01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:58.400
helped out of here. So her attorney shows up to

1118
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:02.360
the jail with this evidence and is like, okay, girl, look,

1119
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.960
I know that you were young, I know that you

1120
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:08.800
are madly in love.

1121
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:12.400
And I know that you never knew your daddy. But

1122
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:14.039
this ain't love, Okay.

1123
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.639
He is letting you take the full fall for something

1124
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:23.920
that I don't believe was just you. If you at all, babe,

1125
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.360
you need to listen to me. You're going to lose

1126
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:29.039
this case and you are going to pay with your

1127
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.400
life one way or another. And when your a defense

1128
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.000
attorney is telling you that that's your clue to listen

1129
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:40.760
the fuck up. And Ashley still was not budging until

1130
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:44.599
she was enlightened on a few things that she had

1131
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:49.119
no clue about until this very moment with her attorney,

1132
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:51.920
and I'm going to listen them for you, amongst others,

1133
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:57.079
but number one, her beloved husband had lied to her

1134
01:02:57.599 --> 01:02:59.400
about being a football player.

1135
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:01.679
He never played pro ball.

1136
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:06.000
That was a full outlie that he told her, just

1137
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:11.000
like he had lied about it to Sandy. Her soulmate

1138
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:14.840
husband had lied to her about being an underwear model

1139
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:18.960
that never happened. He lied to her just like he

1140
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:25.639
did to Sandy. And your betrothed husband has spent the

1141
01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:30.719
majority of the last fifteen years not being a fitness trainer.

1142
01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:33.599
He lied to you about this, and I can prove

1143
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:39.559
it because he was behind bars on multiple charges, most.

1144
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.039
Of which were for abusing women.

1145
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:47.519
He lied to you about this, just like he did

1146
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:53.599
to Sandy. Neither of these two women knew anything about

1147
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:57.719
his prison history. By the way, Sandy never even knew

1148
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:03.639
about his history. So his charges, I looked him up myself.

1149
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:04.840
I don't want to leave it at that. I want

1150
01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:06.639
to I want to be full scope here. So I

1151
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:10.360
looked them up myself, and there's a couple of them

1152
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:13.480
I want to point out to you, starting back on my.

1153
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:14.800
Birthday, August fifteenth.

1154
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:19.159
Okay, But on August fifteenth of nineteen ninety four, he

1155
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:23.440
was arrested and was given five years for a grand

1156
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:28.320
theft motor vehicle. So he stole someone's car. September twenty

1157
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.679
fifth of nineteen ninety five, he had aggravated assault with

1158
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:36.280
a weapon. This one had a thing that said, uh,

1159
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.280
no intention to kill, So I guess I don't know

1160
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:41.719
if you pistol whipped somebody or what. On August thirtieth

1161
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.960
of nineteen ninety five, he had a charge of aggravated

1162
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.320
battery with intended harm. And on September twenty fifth of

1163
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:53.079
ninety five, he also had a kidnapping charge. And then

1164
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:54.760
he had there's another thing on here. I don't have

1165
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:57.000
it quite spelled out, but he had a kidnapping charge

1166
01:04:57.079 --> 01:05:00.639
and something else which was also a felony. He had

1167
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:03.679
been given twenty years total for all of this, but

1168
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:07.039
he had spent only roughly about fifteen years. But if

1169
01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:10.880
that didn't hit her in the soul, if that didn't

1170
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.519
get her when she realized that everything she had been

1171
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:16.320
told about this man was a lie, this last bit

1172
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:16.800
of info.

1173
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:21.360
Surely did you remember her hairdresser that she.

1174
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:25.559
Confided in about her love for Tracy and how great

1175
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.760
he was, And the hairdresser just kind of smiled and

1176
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:32.639
was like, I'm happy for you. Well, that hairdresser, I

1177
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:35.679
want to point out, was a he a guy, a

1178
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:41.760
male a male hairdresser, and that male hairdresser was also

1179
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:43.760
Tracy's gay lover.

1180
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:46.840
Yeah, yes, sir.

1181
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.239
The hairdresser had been interviewed by police and he admitted

1182
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:56.639
that on the low they were lovers, but Tracy had

1183
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:02.039
sworn him to secrecy, and there was photographic evidence of

1184
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:02.960
their relationship.

1185
01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:05.199
This is not me just spewing this.

1186
01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:10.960
And to further follow that up, I went and looked

1187
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:14.960
up some stuff on Tracy and one of his aliases

1188
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:19.599
was on the low. That's actually documented, just so you know,

1189
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:21.559
in his prison file from all this stuff.

1190
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:22.599
On the low.

1191
01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:24.599
Now, if you're not with the lingo, on the low

1192
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:27.519
means that you're doing something without other people knowing, meaning

1193
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:29.719
maybe sleeping with men on the low.

1194
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:30.840
Yeah.

1195
01:06:31.079 --> 01:06:33.039
Well, when that last bit was told to her that

1196
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.280
he was even sleeping with her hairdresser, that was the

1197
01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:39.760
straw that broke the camel's back, and Ashley realized she

1198
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:43.679
had been played and she had been played hard. So

1199
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:48.119
Ashley agreed to strike a plea deal to testify against

1200
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:51.599
her husband in exchange for not getting a life sentence.

1201
01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:56.079
If the prosecution was interested, they wanted though to hear,

1202
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:57.960
they were like, okay, cool, this is great let's work

1203
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.159
this out, but we want to know what you have

1204
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.280
to bring to the table before we agree to give

1205
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:06.719
you this plea deal. And that's when Ashley laid it

1206
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:11.800
all out for them. Saturday night at the club where

1207
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:16.480
Sandy was working, She waited for hours outside in the

1208
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:20.159
parking lot for Sandy to get off of work. She

1209
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:22.880
said that she followed her home. She got out of

1210
01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.440
her car, went into Sandy's garage. She pulled the trigger,

1211
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.119
she said, until it stopped firing, meaning she emptied the

1212
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.559
weapon completely. That's why there was eight shots to her

1213
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:35.639
at close range.

1214
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:37.119
She specifically said.

1215
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:41.920
Then I stood there, leaned in and looked into her eyes.

1216
01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:46.639
And the reason she looked into her eyes is because

1217
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:50.039
her husband told her, you have to make sure someone's dead,

1218
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:54.480
and you can see it in their eyes. She ran

1219
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:56.639
back to her car and she headed home. She said,

1220
01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:59.159
I called Tracy and told him that it was done,

1221
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:02.960
and he said he had ordered some pizza, and she

1222
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:08.639
said that she requested double cheese on hers. First of all,

1223
01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:12.039
I want to stop there and go, Wow, you just

1224
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:16.439
are telling them you fucking shot somebody that you never met,

1225
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:21.279
and then you're asking for double cheese on your pizza,

1226
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:24.239
and when asked, because the detectives were also a bit

1227
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:28.039
stunned at this point, when asked if even for a moment,

1228
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:32.119
did you check up and think, don't do this? You know,

1229
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:34.439
did you, in your gut go this ain't the right thing?

1230
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:38.560
And she said no, I didn't. They're like, you didn't

1231
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:40.800
even like think twice about it, And she said no,

1232
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.439
because I was afraid of Tracy.

1233
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:46.960
Why were you afraid of Tracy?

1234
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:50.640
And her answer was because I knew how mad he

1235
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:55.039
got it me when I failed the first time I tried.

1236
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:56.439
To murder her.

1237
01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:01.239
Holy crap, detectives almost choked on their own spit. Wait,

1238
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:03.479
what what do you mean the first time you tried

1239
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:03.960
to kill her?

1240
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:04.880
Y'all?

1241
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:08.319
This wasn't the first time that she had tried to

1242
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:13.720
kill Sandy. She had been following her and stalking her

1243
01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:17.000
for a long time. Here, she knew where she lived,

1244
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:21.319
she knew where she worked. She had been calling Sandy's

1245
01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:24.399
job and asking if she was working so she could

1246
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.199
figure out her schedule and plan ahead for her murder.

1247
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:28.720
And I want to just say this real quick.

1248
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.319
That is one of the biggest reasons why I don't

1249
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:34.960
think that businesses should confirm or deny if somebody is

1250
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.520
working or not, because if you need to talk to them,

1251
01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:38.159
drive up there.

1252
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.800
But just giving out people's schedules over the phone, don't.

1253
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:41.760
I'm not a fan of that.

1254
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:46.159
Her first assassination attempt, what happened, let's talk about it.

1255
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.720
She was waiting outside of Sandy's job in a nearby

1256
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.640
parking lot. She went so far as she had painted

1257
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:58.119
her face black, she had put on brown contact lenses.

1258
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:00.680
She had slipped her hair back into a bun and

1259
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.159
put it under a baseball cap. And she did that

1260
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:06.359
on purpose because at night time where it was dark,

1261
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:09.359
it made her look like a very small.

1262
01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:11.960
Thin black male. She was changing her appearance.

1263
01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:15.359
And then when Sandy came out, Ashley had a rifle

1264
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:19.880
at this attempt, not a pistol, a rifle, and so

1265
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:23.479
she had the rifle out of her driver's side window.

1266
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:28.479
She had it sided in on her target, which was Sandy,

1267
01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:32.800
and the rifle was even slid into a blue jean

1268
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:36.159
pant leg, so that if anyone happened to see it, it

1269
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:39.439
wouldn't look like a readily identifiable rifle. If someone happened

1270
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:43.000
to pass by and see it, and matter of fact,

1271
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:46.840
it would have looked like someone's blue jean leg out

1272
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:50.279
of the window, like resting on the mirror. Okay, to

1273
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:54.319
really put it into perspective here. And whenever Ashley had

1274
01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:58.399
fired the rifle and shot at Sandy with the rifle,

1275
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:03.119
she thought that she had it resting on top of

1276
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:06.119
her driver's side mirror, but it was actually in that groove,

1277
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:07.960
you know, the little dip down where it attaches to

1278
01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:12.079
the car. It was actually resting somewhere right there. And

1279
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:16.159
whenever she pulled the trigger to assassinate Sandy the first

1280
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:20.399
time with a fucking rifle, the bullet, because it was

1281
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:24.399
misplaced in the mirror, actually struck her mirror, which caused

1282
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:27.079
the bullet's trajectory to be way off course by the

1283
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.720
time it got you know, down range, and the bullet

1284
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:33.279
missed Sandy, by the grace of God. Now the loud

1285
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:36.880
boom had made Sandy just duck out of instinct. She

1286
01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:39.399
kind of dropped down, and she was looking around like,

1287
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:41.520
what the hell was that She heard it?

1288
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:43.239
And she's looking around.

1289
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:49.279
She had no clue that someone just weeks prior to

1290
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:52.920
her to this date, had shot at her and tried

1291
01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:53.640
to murder her.

1292
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.800
Then she had no idea nobody knew.

1293
01:11:57.439 --> 01:12:00.680
Can you imagine an assassin was after her?

1294
01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:03.800
Missed and she had no idea someone was after her.

1295
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.119
So after that murder attempt went awry, she said she

1296
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:10.920
ditched that gun, she threw it out, and then she

1297
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.359
burned all the other evidence that was there.

1298
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:17.159
Now here's the thing. Why was she doing all of this?

1299
01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:21.920
Okay, Ashley and Tracy had gotten into a fight after

1300
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:24.039
that first attempt.

1301
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:25.279
And they had.

1302
01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:29.119
Gotten into a fight why because Tracy was caught cheating

1303
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:30.640
some type of infidelity issue.

1304
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:32.119
Shock her. I know you're shocked here.

1305
01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:35.800
But he was cheating on her and she found out.

1306
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:38.760
So Ashley had stormed out of their house and went

1307
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:42.399
back to her mom's house. Well, Tracy then showed up

1308
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:44.760
there and wanted to talk to her. Now, her mam

1309
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:46.439
was screaming, stay away from him.

1310
01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.279
He's cheating on you. What are you thinking? Stay home,

1311
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:50.279
Stay home.

1312
01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.880
But Tracy was out there and doing his talk and

1313
01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:56.840
smooth talking to her and explaining things away, and he

1314
01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:59.159
told her that in her mother's driveway.

1315
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:02.880
Listen, I've made a huge mistake. I've made a huge mistake.

1316
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:04.600
I don't love those women. Let me tell you who

1317
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:06.560
I love. I love you, and I'm going to prove

1318
01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:10.399
it to you right now, Will you marry me? Let's

1319
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:14.399
get married. And it was less than a month later

1320
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:19.399
that that twenty year old girl believed him and married him.

1321
01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:23.399
But I want to tell you something, even that marriage

1322
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.880
was a setup to and Tracy knew it.

1323
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:29.119
And I have to explain it to you.

1324
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:37.920
American law cannot compel a spouse to testify against another spouse.

1325
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:39.359
And if they.

1326
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:43.159
Broke up and she was pissed off and Ashley went

1327
01:13:43.279 --> 01:13:46.159
running home to her mama, Ashley.

1328
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:48.720
Might go tell. What might Ashley go tell?

1329
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:53.119
She might go tell that Tracy was the one who

1330
01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:58.039
wanted his ex girlfriend murdered, That Tracy was the one

1331
01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:01.319
pushing and pushing and pushing, that something needed to happen

1332
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:05.359
with Sandy. So if he begged her back, promised her

1333
01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:08.800
this Romeo and Juliet moment, let's get married. All we

1334
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:13.199
need is love bullshit, then the law via marriage could

1335
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:17.840
protect him. It could protect his ass because the day

1336
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.560
after they were married, they got married on July the fourth,

1337
01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:23.920
Why well, because they were saying as a couple, he

1338
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:27.920
was like, wow, you know we can have fireworks on

1339
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:28.720
on our honeymoon.

1340
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:30.279
Each year or I don't know.

1341
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:32.239
To me, it kind of sounds like, because fireworks are

1342
01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:34.319
going off on the fourth of July, no one will

1343
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:36.199
fucking hear someone shooting somebody.

1344
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:38.720
They will assume it is fireworks. I don't know.

1345
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.640
That's what my mind heard. But you can make your decision.

1346
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:45.079
Because they got married on July the fourth, but on

1347
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:48.880
July the fifth, as soon as they woke up, he

1348
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:51.039
looked her in the eyes and said, you know, you

1349
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:54.279
have to finish this because if Sandy testifies against me,

1350
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.960
I'm going back to prison, and I can't love you

1351
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:00.520
like the husband I want to be.

1352
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:02.560
I can't father your children.

1353
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:06.000
We can't have our life, our our our home life

1354
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.199
is wrecked. It's ruined by this woman who has made

1355
01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:13.000
these false accusations against me, and your whole entire life

1356
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:16.199
is about to fall apart. You're gonna lose this stability

1357
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:18.920
and the love that I am gonna provide you forever.

1358
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:22.960
I've made this devotion to you. He tells this to

1359
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:29.319
this young girl. Police could not understand as me and you,

1360
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:32.319
you and I alike probably cannot. They could not understand

1361
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:36.720
how some young girl, so normal, so smart, so driven,

1362
01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:40.319
could go to the length of murdering a woman she

1363
01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:44.039
never met, she never spoke to before, she never laid

1364
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:47.279
eyes on before. But the answer here. I know some

1365
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:49.319
people are gonna kind of go h when I say this,

1366
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:52.279
but I'm telling you now, the answer is that.

1367
01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:56.640
You know someone who is.

1368
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:03.960
A manipulator, A master class manipula is so powerful in

1369
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:07.159
the most devious of ways. They have a power and

1370
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:11.640
ability to make you believe things and make you do

1371
01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:14.840
things that, looking at it from a clear point of view,

1372
01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:17.399
without the influence of the manipulator, you would never do.

1373
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:21.520
If you've ever been in an abusive relationship of this type,

1374
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:23.840
you are right now going She's right, Kelly's right.

1375
01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:25.560
It's true. It's true.

1376
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.239
If you've never experienced it, you're rolling your eyes, I

1377
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:32.720
promise you. And either way that's okay. Experiences will will

1378
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:35.119
turn us into who we are, and I understand that.

1379
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:41.840
But that manipulation and the tactics used by him convincing her.

1380
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:43.319
You know, you never had a dad to take care

1381
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.039
of you. And now I'm Prince Charming, I'm strong, and

1382
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:46.840
I'm here and I'm gonna save you. And now this

1383
01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:49.000
woman is going to rip that away from you. Your

1384
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:51.159
dad's already been taken from you by a woman accused

1385
01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:53.319
and she was assaulted. Now I'm gonna be taken away

1386
01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:55.439
from you by a woman who's falsely accused.

1387
01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:56.079
Me of being assaulted.

1388
01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:58.840
And if this doesn't happen, then I'm gonna you know,

1389
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:02.119
he really put it on her, and not just that quickly,

1390
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:07.319
y'all over time. So, while awaiting sentencing for his fellon

1391
01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:10.239
in possession of a firearm charge, he was then advised

1392
01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:12.880
now in jail from the jail, that he was being

1393
01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:16.239
charged with first degree murder. And guys, he was just

1394
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:20.560
hurt by this. He said he was totally innocent. He

1395
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:25.760
could not believe this. He was so innocent too, that

1396
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:29.560
before he could even state his case in court, he

1397
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:33.359
decided he needed to escape custody. He was that innocent, guys,

1398
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:37.159
he needed to escape. And that's exactly what he did,

1399
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:42.359
because around one o'clock on a Friday afternoon, the Pinellas

1400
01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:47.960
County Sheriff's deputies were transporting him from one jail to another. Now,

1401
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:50.039
if you don't know about jail transport, that's okay, But

1402
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:52.159
I want to explain something real quick. When you arrive

1403
01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:55.119
at a jail and you're in secure custody. You are

1404
01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:57.880
going to be brought into what's called a sally port,

1405
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:00.720
which in essence is a secure carport.

1406
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:02.600
Okay, it's usually.

1407
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:05.119
Surrounded by chain link fencing or some type of security

1408
01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:06.439
from top to bottom.

1409
01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:08.439
The vehicle you're in will drive into it.

1410
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.279
The gate will then close that way if you try

1411
01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:13.920
to escape the car, or you know, you try to

1412
01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:16.159
fight the deputy, even if you beat up the deputy,

1413
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:19.600
you still can't get out. You're still in the cage. Well,

1414
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:22.079
there were a total of four inmates that were being transported,

1415
01:18:22.119 --> 01:18:25.520
three males and one female. Well, while they've got into

1416
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:29.000
the sally port, the female that was being transported was

1417
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:33.319
able to slip off her cuffs and open the van door.

1418
01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:38.239
Tracy at this point was handcuffed in front of his

1419
01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:40.920
waist instead of behind himself. And I'm gonna stop real

1420
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.840
quick and tell you something. It's officer's discretion whether they

1421
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:45.760
handcuff in the front or in the back. This is

1422
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.199
not a policy breach or anything like that. But he

1423
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:52.560
was in the front and because of this, they were

1424
01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:55.680
able to get out of the van and make a

1425
01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:59.039
run for it. Because the female was able to not

1426
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:01.359
only open the door, she was also able to loosen

1427
01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:04.159
a bolt. I believe it was in the cage, and

1428
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:06.600
so he was able to make his way through that

1429
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:11.039
cage through that open bolt, and since his handcuffs were

1430
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:14.279
on the front, he was able to run really really well.

1431
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:16.399
And they he was able to even make it out

1432
01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:18.760
of the sally port. How I don't know, because they

1433
01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:21.439
don't release information that will teach people how to escape,

1434
01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:26.439
but I'm guessing that an unlocked or unsecured git was

1435
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:29.479
the issue, and those things happened whatever, but he was

1436
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:30.479
able to escape.

1437
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:33.680
He was that innocent. He escaped the custody of police.

1438
01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:37.199
Now a huge search was on for him, and this

1439
01:19:37.279 --> 01:19:38.439
included air support.

1440
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:40.479
CA Nine's, the whole manty.

1441
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:43.920
Everything was put out for him, and eventually, I'm going

1442
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:46.000
to cut it short here, but after all this searching

1443
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:48.760
was done, he was found on the ground hiding in

1444
01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:52.920
some brush that was growing around a tree. So as

1445
01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:55.880
deputies closed in on him, he did make an epic

1446
01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:58.720
last run for it, but they snatched his ass up

1447
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:00.000
and they got in pretty quick.

1448
01:20:00.239 --> 01:20:02.439
Okay, So he, of course.

1449
01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:04.760
In that moment, began to complain that the police were

1450
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:07.159
mean to him. They were mean to him when they

1451
01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:09.640
took him into custody. He said his ribs hurt and

1452
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:12.199
his legs hurt. He needed to go to the hospital,

1453
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:13.600
and they were like, that's fine, we'll take you to

1454
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:14.079
the hospital.

1455
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:14.640
No big deal.

1456
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.520
But he was put under the strictest and tightest jail

1457
01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:21.960
I mean security at the hospital possible, and in the

1458
01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:25.840
meantime they slapped an extra charge of escape on him.

1459
01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:27.800
So he did eventually go back to the jail to

1460
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:30.960
await his day in court. Finally court came to be

1461
01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:34.560
and he actually testified on his own behalf. He was

1462
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:36.520
that confident that he had nothing to do with this,

1463
01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:39.720
and he testified that this was Ashley's doing and that

1464
01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:43.399
she was the one who said, what if someone prevented

1465
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:47.319
Sandra from showing up to court, to which he testified

1466
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:50.760
that he told his wife this is a quote. Don't

1467
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:55.039
even joke about that. That is not funny. Why would

1468
01:20:55.079 --> 01:20:58.760
you say that. He could not believe that his wife

1469
01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:00.920
would say such a thing. Now you and I know this.

1470
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:04.960
His prior record alone against women makes this the most

1471
01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:07.199
laughable fucking statement I've ever heard in my entire life.

1472
01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:10.960
But he also claimed that he married Ashley so quickly,

1473
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:14.079
not because of the espousal testimony law.

1474
01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:17.159
But because direct quote, I.

1475
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:21.359
Don't think I'm ever going to find this again, end quote.

1476
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:23.039
That's how strong the love was.

1477
01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:25.640
And I'm going, yeah, dude, I don't think you're ever

1478
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:27.600
going to find that either. You convinced a twenty year

1479
01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:31.000
old girl too, with no experience in love, who you

1480
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:34.399
master manipulated. You convinced her to kill for you, and

1481
01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:37.479
she tried it, not once, but twice. I'd say, you're right, bro,

1482
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.159
You're not going to find this much much again either.

1483
01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:43.760
The chances of you finding someone to do this again

1484
01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:47.840
are very slim. So, yeah, you're right, bro. It wasn't love.

1485
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:50.399
It was that you found somebody who you could manipulate.

1486
01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:54.159
It took the jury less than three hours to find

1487
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:56.920
him guilty, and he was sentenced to life in prison

1488
01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:01.640
without the possibility of parole. Now. So Ashley did exactly

1489
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.279
as she promised, and as a result she told everything.

1490
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:09.680
She was sentenced to twenty five years in prison, which

1491
01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:13.079
as of this recording date, means that she will be

1492
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:16.880
released in just two years at the end of twenty

1493
01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:20.279
twenty eight. It's coming up soon, and all I can

1494
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:24.880
think about now is Sandy's daughter, A daughter that was

1495
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:29.760
forced to grow up without her mother. Ashley got twenty

1496
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:34.840
five years, but Sandy's daughter got a life sentence. In

1497
01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:39.760
terms of being a victim here, Sandy she lost her future,

1498
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:44.800
she lost everything. Twenty five years to me is nothing.

1499
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:47.359
It's nothing. It's a drop in the hat.

1500
01:22:47.439 --> 01:22:53.920
However, even Sandy's own mother believed that Tracy was the

1501
01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:58.680
root of all evil in this. Sandy's family as well

1502
01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:02.159
as the police. And I will tell you my opinion

1503
01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:06.560
has also changed. After all the research I did on this,

1504
01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:11.199
all of us, and I'll say us agree that Ashley

1505
01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:15.399
was manipulated, she was used, and she was just a

1506
01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:19.359
very young pawn in all of this. Had she never

1507
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:22.720
met Tracy, I am very confident in believing that she

1508
01:23:22.760 --> 01:23:26.079
would have never been a criminal at all. She would

1509
01:23:26.119 --> 01:23:29.199
have never this would have never crossed her mind. And

1510
01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:34.600
I will say this, Ashley has taken full responsibility for

1511
01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:38.880
what she did. She even the part about saying that

1512
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:42.039
she asked for extra cheese. I mean, she admits all

1513
01:23:42.079 --> 01:23:45.279
of this. In looking back on it, she just shakes

1514
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:47.560
her head. You can see it in interviews. She just

1515
01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:50.520
shakes her head and just kind of like is stunned

1516
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:54.560
by her own she's almost stunned at her own level

1517
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.960
of evil, and a direct quote in an in her

1518
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:02.039
interview I watched, she said that what she did was evil.

1519
01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:07.479
She knows this, and she said, I deserve life in

1520
01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:11.479
prison because Sandy lost her life. But I am grateful

1521
01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:14.920
for a second chance, if it's ever given to me.

1522
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:19.079
So maybe it's maturity, maybe it's growth, but at least

1523
01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:23.800
she gets that opportunity. Sandy remains dead and will be

1524
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:27.640
forever now while behind bars, I want to tell you

1525
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:32.239
this too. Ashley filed for divorce from Tracy. She wants

1526
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:34.399
nothing to do with him. She doesn't even want to

1527
01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:37.239
still have the same name as him. And at first,

1528
01:24:37.279 --> 01:24:40.399
when she filed that paperwork, Tracy agreed, yeah, dumb bitch,

1529
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.319
I want to be divorced from you. But after that,

1530
01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:46.760
shortly thereafter, he decided he wanted to fight their divorce.

1531
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:49.760
He didn't want her to divorce him. Was it because

1532
01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:53.000
the woman willing to kill for him was his one

1533
01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:54.520
and only and he couldn't let her go.

1534
01:24:55.800 --> 01:25:01.000
Was his devotion just that deep that he just didn't

1535
01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:02.279
want to be separated from her?

1536
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:07.199
No? Fuck No. The hearing notes which I looked up

1537
01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:10.720
the hearing notes show. He now wanted to fight the

1538
01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:15.560
divorce because he realized that she could speak freely to

1539
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:22.520
the press about the murder if she wasn't his wife. Well, newsflash, bitch,

1540
01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:24.319
I mean she could talk about it anyway. The law

1541
01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:26.359
doesn't say she can't, it says she doesn't have to.

1542
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:31.359
So the whole paperwork, the whole thing is just ridiculous.

1543
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:34.560
But he did state in there, and here's the kicker,

1544
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:37.359
if she did speak to the media and the press,

1545
01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:40.239
he felt like that was going to affect his post

1546
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:44.239
conviction relief that he was acting for, I e. If

1547
01:25:44.279 --> 01:25:46.840
she speaks and people know the truth, then I don't

1548
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:50.720
have the chance at my conviction being overthrown, being thrown out.

1549
01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:54.840
Whaw crib me a fucking river. The judge also was

1550
01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:58.439
not impressed. And guess what, bro He even agrees actually

1551
01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:00.000
can do whatever she wants with a yell or mirror

1552
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:03.920
or not. But this dude is so calculating. But I

1553
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:08.119
want to say he's a calculating idiot. He's an absolute idiot.

1554
01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:11.880
And if anything, this is a cautionary tale about whirlwind

1555
01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:18.039
romance and blind love. Young girls, pay attention. Love will

1556
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:22.840
never ask you to marry to murder someone never ever

1557
01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:29.640
someone being so skilled at lying and manipulation, having the

1558
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:34.880
ability to weaponize the person they supposedly love, that is

1559
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:40.399
a frightening person to have running loose in society. Thankfully

1560
01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:43.960
they are both behind bars, while only one of them

1561
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:48.680
has admitted to everything and begged for forgiveness for their actions.

1562
01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:52.239
I can't say, though, that I'm surprised that he continues

1563
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:53.920
to maintain his innocence.

1564
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:55.319
I just I'm not shocked by it.

1565
01:26:56.920 --> 01:27:00.640
I'll tell you this too, Tracy Humphrey. He no longer

1566
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:04.039
looks the same now that he can't pump his veins

1567
01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:08.720
full of steroids and wu unsuspecting women into his trap

1568
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:13.000
of manipulation. If you see him now, he's tall, but

1569
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:17.960
he's skinny and rather plain looking. I guess now his

1570
01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:22.760
real exterior, his natural exterior, just mirrors his less than

1571
01:27:22.800 --> 01:27:26.439
desirable interior. You know, his true self, the real ugly

1572
01:27:26.720 --> 01:27:28.960
side of him, And I'd have to say that it's

1573
01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:33.479
very well fitting. I mean, we all know that steroids

1574
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:36.239
are known for reducing the size of a man's package, which,

1575
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:40.239
in hindsight, y'all, it makes perfect sense because even at

1576
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:44.000
his peak, it took a woman to come in and

1577
01:27:44.039 --> 01:27:47.279
do his dirty work, and the reasons because the dude

1578
01:27:47.319 --> 01:27:48.359
just didn't have the balls