19 DAY DEVIL PART 4

0:10 Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering how is this even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.

0:55 Unspeakable is intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, Kelly Jennings here back for another episode of Unspeakable. Guess what it's gonna be? The final episode of nineteen Day Devil. I've gotten some really nice stress mail from listeners, going you better finish this. I need the ending, but y'all, I gotta give you all the details, right, So I'm gonna do that. I'm finish it up today. And have I got something great for my patron members too. Two actually really cool things that I'm gonna be doing for you. First thing, all patron members, doesn't matter what category you're in, you are going to have a bonus episode this week. You can look forward to drop around Friday, we're gonna do the regular weekly episode and then we'll drop that bonus episode for you, So you just hang in tight.

1:46 We'll let you know on Facebook and all my other platforms whenever it drops. And for my Crime Family members, you're gonna get a really, really good treat here. I'm actually gonna post the entire video of the interioration of Dakota Tario, so you can watch Detective Bowden work as magic and you can watch body language and a lot of the things that I discuss in the podcast. You can see it happen livetime and watch that on the video on Patreon. So there's a whole lot of things that you can get and see and do. And my purpose and my goal now is I want to make sure I'm really hammering home my patron members that y'all are getting extras, and you know, you get to see a lot of the things that I can't post online. I am limited on Facebook and other platforms of things I can post there. Patreon gives me a little bit more leniency. So look for those two things this week. Like I said, it's going to be regular all patrons, no matter what tier, you'll get the bonus episode Crime Family Members, y'all will get the full videoed interview and you can watch that at your leisure. So if you want to become a patron, by the way, and go to patron patreon dot com and then you just make a free account search Frontspeakable the podcast by Kelly Jennings. You'll see me choose whichever t your best fits your lifestyle and then slam bam, Thank you, ma'am. You can have extra Kelly Jennings and I know you need that in your life, right hopefully, so all right, if not, no worries, But let me jump back into where we left off. Actually, how about I give my new shout outs before I do that. So whole bunch of people,

3:19 Oh my gosh, the patron list is just growing and growing. But I've got people joining every tier. We've got some vigilantees, some gang members, and Crime Family They're all mixed in here. But I'm gonna give everyone their shout out, starting with miss Kayla Thomas. Hi, Kayla, thank you so much for joining the group. And let's see Crime Family member. I've got miss Ashlyn Carney. Hi, Ashlyn, I appreciate you joining the team and you're gonna get to see all those extras that I'm gonna upload. I've got Ashley Rochelle. I've also got Miss Danielle Krisen Krezen, Krazanne. That's a hard one for me. Miss Danny, thanks so much for joining. If I'm miss r last name, I's so sorry. Jody Harless, Hi Jody, Mister Brandon Evans, so glad that you could join as well.

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4:51 Hey, you know what, I got a post off the top? Okay, I hope everybody has a sense of humor when I say this, Okay, but it's it's about me, so I can make fun of myself. But I asked her one time. I said, I got an idea for some pictures I really want you to take for me. And she said, what are they? And I said, I want to take some white trash photos. I think it'd be hilarious, and she's like, all right, I'm game. And so my husband and I dressed up like complete white trash and we're in our overalls and drinking beer and I had the best time, and I turned him into some coasters in my house. So you know what, I'm gonna make a note right now, I'm gonna post my white trash pictures for you. Post white trash pictures, so y'all can see those. They're meant to be funny. It's whatever, but all right, Miss Cindy Ellison, Hey, miss Cindy. I know Miss Cindy too. She works for one of our high schools out in this parish, and she is a fantastic custodian and I think a whole lot of her. And she's a pretty lady. So that's a good combo too. Right, Rebecca Knock Anne, Hi Rebecca, and Miss Morgan Dufraine, Hi Morgan, thank you so much for joining from the great city of Denham Springs, Louisiana. And last, but certainly not least, is Miss Elizabeth Goesa. Hi Elizabeth, I'm so excited to have you here from Marksville, Louisiana, say right down the road. Thank y'all so much for joining in and becoming part of my patron family. You're the reason that all of this can happen. Your support helps me to have time and have the resources to do even better podcasts. So thank y'all so much from the bottom of my heart. Let's jump into this last episode of nineteen Day Devil. This is gonna be our final episode,

6:25 episode four. So where we left off last episode. If you are not caught up, go back before you listen to this one. But we pretty much completed the talking about the confession and the interview that Detective Bowden did out here in Livingston Parish and that he was able to get Dakota Tario to basically just he broke him down and finally Dakota had enough and said everything that happened according to how he says it, happened, and he was very very clear that he was not sorry. He said, I ain't sorry. I popped They were fucking me in my sleep, which I don't believe for one second is true. And that was pretty much his explanation for why he killed them.

7:09 And that was pretty much where I had dropped off at that point. Now I'm going to be posting some more this week, some of the photos as I was talking last episode and breaking down his movements and the things that he did whenever he was being interviewed that showed whether he was closed off or he was, you know, wanting to speak but wouldn't speak. And finally, but Balden, through his skill, you know, and Art, was able to get him to just come out and say and say what he did. So something that that stuck out to me was in part of the investigation narrative that I was looking at. Dakota would talk a little bit too about his interactions with Summer prior to him murdering her, and Dakota stated at one point that him and Summer were just sitting in the bed and that he went outside to smoke a cigarette, but he kissed Summer on the forehead when before he went out, and anyone who's ever been kissed on the forehead would interpret that as a sign of I guess, affection or a mutual respect, or that you care for somebody. And then he says he's fixed him some food, and then he returned back to the bedroom where Summer was and kissed her on the forehead again. So you know, he continued to put off this loving nature towards her, this kind sweet nature towards Summer. And you know, I don't know that that Summer ever really had time to pick up on the fact of how dangerous he was. And part of that is because I don't think she had any idea that he had beat the hell out of his

8:41 wife. And so there's a law, right and you can look this up if you want to. And I a lot of this stuff I'm about to tell you I got from an article from the Times Picune in New Orleans. But I kind of was interested. They had made some changes to this law that kind of got my wheels turning. And I hope as listeners, you know, I may not always be right, but my wheels are always turning. I'm always thinking about how can we protect more people in society? Summer's gone. But is there something that maybe could have been done beforehand that possibly could have saved her life. And one of those things is a law called Gwen's Law. And Gwen's Law is in place because it's basically domestic violence law. And anyone who knows anything about domestic violence knows that all it does is escalate. There's nobody on the planet that says, well, they may beat the hell out of you now, but they'll come to their senses and they won't do it later. Domestic violence experts across the board will tell you that domestic violence only escalates, and in this case, they just escalated from Kilm to Summer. And I kind of wondered. I sat back and thought about this, and you know, is there something that could have been in place that maybe could have saved Summer's life? And then therefore Tanner and Billy, you know it, maybe even Dakota's parents' lives. And while I'm thinking about this, and I've pulled, you know, some reports and some laws and I'm reading through them, my friend Billy, who owns French Settlement Roasting company.

10:05 If you need some good coffee, and this is not a paid plug I'm literally tone, it's good coffee. But he even had message being was like, you know, why isn't there like some some place that women could look it up and see if there's a domestic violence, you know, conviction on somebody's record. And so I from my understanding, the reason that is is because federal law prohibits that. But I'm kind of by the of the mindset that I think that this should have a database, much like sex offenders in our in our societies, you can go look that up. Why because they pose a very real threat to children and to adults and to people that you know, might not know that they have the propensity for that type of behavior. So Gwen's Law was in place for that, but it was not a database, you know. Gwen's Law was a twenty fourteen measure that required contradictory hearings before suspected domestic abusers could bond out of jail. And the way that this came about was that a woman named Gwen Sally was murdered by her husband just about eighteen hours after he bonded out of jail. So he was brought in for beating the hell out of her and hurting her and then eighteen hours later he murders her and so her family, like as most legislation against victims comes about, was like, this is ridiculous. You know, less than twenty four hours after he's released from jail on assault charges, he you

11:37 know, he kills her. So it just seemed like there's there ought to be something where victims can have a say so so that whenever they get there, these abusers get their hearing that at least the victims of these you know, of this abuse could at least have a chance to kind of beg for their lives because the suspected abuse would be kept in jail without bond for up to five days if the judge determines that they pose a danger, and it would give the victims time to get to safety, because not everybody has that safety net where they can just run and hide or have the finances to get the money together to go and get away from their abuser. A lot of your female of victims depend on their abusers because they're isolated and they don't have a job. And I'm not saying that about Gwinn, but you know, there's a whole lot more that goes into being a victim of domestic abuse than just getting hit. And what happened now is that there were some changes that were brought into the law, and basically some people were arguing that it kind of is stripping victims of their rights to that hearing that that original Gwen's Law established, because the new changes to the law forced judges, you know, to notify prosecutors if they decide to grant bonds to suspected abusers without a hearing, but the judge isn't obligated to heed that district attorney's objection, and so it kind of puts a lot of power in the judge his hands, where you know, that mandatory meeting would would really be beneficial to the victim.

13:05 So Gwen Sally, she was thirty nine and this happened, was shot to death on May two, twenty fourteen, by her estranged husband, his name was Mike Sally, after he abducted her from outside their daughter's daycare. He was arrested earlier that week on assault and other charges, but he bonded out, like I had told you, just eighteen after about eighteen hours, and then he took her, kills her, and then he took the gun and he killed himself after he killed her, and her sister argued whenever the you know, the law was being discussed that she knows for a fact her sister would have gone to this contradictory bail hearing and pled her case, you know, and that she should have been given that that opportunity. And so I just think, hey, maybe we as a people need to keep thinking about this and re you know, wondering, are there other things that we need in our society to protect we the people, to protect people like Summer, who's a young girl that maybe doesn't realize what type of danger that she was in. And reasons that there were contradictions that were brought up to this law.

14:09 Also based on some of the things that I'm reading, is that a lot of times when there are domestic violence incidences, there are actual dual arrests, meaning both members of the couple or of the household that are being arrested. They both are getting in trouble for their role in the confrontation. And so there was an argument that if both parents are waiting in jail sales for a contradictory hearing, neither one of them is home, and if there's children involved, who's going to watch the kids. And I get that that's a practicality of the situation. However, it just kind of takes away that opportunity for others where there isn't a dual arrest, you know, and they don't get to kind of plead their case. But in my humble opinion, I think that once you are convicted of a domestic violence crime where you have done something like strangle the life out of somebody or try to strangle the life out of them, or you've you know, hurt them, you've got a serious battery here, you know, I just think other people in the future maybe should be able to research that. And here's one of the problems I found in my local area is that people will argue, well, that is public, you can go find that. Yeah, but here was the issue I found. You have to go up to the court house and ask for that information. Okay, you have to make a trip to go there. And so I'm thinking about the young or the single parent who works every day who might be out dating and they don't have the ability, the funds and the

15:39 time to be able to dedicate a day to take off of work to drive out there to then request that information from the courts. Why isn't it easier for us to find this If you are violent, then the people should be able to figure that out, specifically domestic violent situations, because that's what ends up in cases like this when we're talking about right now. You know, maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Maybe give me some feedback if you think I'm a total idiot. But I just I can't understand why sex offenders we can put a database out there, but for domestic abusers we don't. What's the thought process behind that? I don't know. I feel like it kind of puts people out of disadvantage to find out. So another thing too that I thought, when we're talking more about that investigate, I mean that confession and that interrogation, is that Dakota at one point in this interrogations claims that he leaned down and he kissed the young earnest children before he left the house, and then he cants that statement. It says he never touched the kids, And so you don't know, well, which one is it?

16:41 If you're telling the truth, why why does that change? The story shouldn't change? And then he is lighthearted even in parts of this interview and like I said, I can't go through this entire interview. It's two hours long. That's why I'm going to post it and you can watch it. But if you want to talk about intent behind what he did. I mean, he even said that after he shot Summer, you know, he went in the living room and kind of kissed the kids, and then he reached in Billy's pocket, turned it inside out and took his keys before he went to go take the truck, which, by the way, if you go back and look at that photo that I posted on Facebook, you can see the pocket turned inside out, you know. And then he mentions even more in that interview and says that, oh, well, while he was driving, after he took the truck, he threw his phone out the window. Okay, well why did you throw your phone out of the window, and his answers, oh, well, I didn't need it anymore. No, that's not what that's about. Everyone needs a phone. It's because you're trying to get rid of evidence. Doesn't work like that hashtag welcome to the Cloud, but you still tried. And then even more questioning, you know, well why why why would you throw it out of the window. You don't need anymore. He laughs and responds, because I had the radio. Yeah, because that's real funny. I guess you just murder, you just murder five people, But I mean, huh, at least you have the radio to listen to. And then he even goes onto into details about how you know about the dog that was with him, And so I had mentioned to you also that I thought the only reason kim minks, if you remember she was asleep in the trailer, the only reason I think that she lived was because

18:14 he didn't know that she was there. And that's even kind of verified in some of this questioning because they said he tells them nobody else was home. And so this is from one of the reports. While traveling, one of his favorite songs came on the radio, Miley Cyrus's partying in the USA. Do y'all know that song? So I'll put my hands up laying my song Butterfly's fly Away, nodding my head like yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. That's what he's listening to after he's murdered people. Super super great song. I guess a post murder, that's weird. And at that time he started quote unquote acting pretty stupid to try to just take his mind find off everything in stay calm.

19:03 Okay. He had smoked a few cigarettes, he said before he got back to his parents house. You know, he was trying to calm down. And then he said that he wasn't that nervous and was pretty calm. He then said that he arrived at his parents residence. He walked into the residence because the door was unlocked. Dakota then stated that it was not out of the norm for the residence to be unlocked. He walked to the back room where his parents were and he kicked in the door because the door handle is broken. He stated that you can't get into his parents room unless quote unquote you pry it open or they open it from the inside. Again, the reason I'm bringing that up to you is I want to show you intent. He knew all of this going into it, and he had a plan, and that was to basically kick down the damn door to get to him.

19:48 After he kicks the door open, he points the gun at his father, at which time his father started screaming. His father and mother are both lying in the bed. He describes his mother lying in the fetal position and his father was in the bed post up on his phone. Dakota stated that he shot his father twice until he quote unquote went down. He then looked at his mother and stated, I love you, mom, and shot her in the head. Dakota stated that his mother was awake when he shot her, which is even more sickening, like she saw her son. I mean the dad did too. I'm just saying, your mother, dude, your mother. Dakota stated, everybody was awake. There was nobody sleeping or away from me. I made sure I made sure everybody was looking at me quote unquote end quote. I was making sure they were looking at me, which means he wanted to inflict pain and horror onto those people. This detective as Dakota, you made sure she was looking at you, meaning like talking about his mother, at which he replied, everybody was looking at me. Dakota stated that he did not know if anyone else was in the residence with his parents because he didn't check. This is a direct quote. I had a sole objective kill my parents. Y'all. This dude is evil. It's just not even right. Dakota then stated that the black dog was by him the entire time and followed him around the residence. Remember that black dog that the neighbor of his grandfather in New Orleans said was riding in the car. The dog

21:22 jumped in the vehicle and got in the passenger seat, at which time he told the dog to lay down. Dakota got into the vehicle and drove to laplace to attempt to change out vehicles again, trying to, you know, make it harder to detect him. Prior to arriving in his grandfather's residence, he stopped at the stop sign and opened the door to the vehicle and let the dog out because he didn't need to bring the dog with him. Dakota stated, quote, I made it to the stop sign at my grandfather's house. I went to make the right and I just stopped. I was like, why am I going here? Why am I going to let them know what I did. He stated that he thought about taking the two younger children in the earnest residence with him to his grandfather's residence. He said Billy and Casey were good parents. However, after being with them every day all day long, he started to realize they quote really didn't give a fuck. They didn't care. He stated that the kids had a diaper rash for almost two weeks. When I asked him if that upset him that the kids had a diaper rash, Dacoda stated, there's no justification for what I did other than I mean, I'm not going to just stand around and let somebody fuck me.

22:26 Dacoda then chuckles and states, fucked me over as you will. So, I mean, this is just all over the place, making accusations and claims. And they go further on to say, well, why did you drive to Virginia to go to see your grandmother? Why would you go make that drive? I remember there was a fourteen hour drive, and he stated that he drove to Virginia, but he got lost a few times, and he said that's why it took me as long as it did to get there. Dakota stated that he went to his grandmother's residence because he wanted to tell her that he was sorry and that he loved her. Dakoda said that after leaving his grandmother, his plan was to quote try to make sure I had to stand off with the police. Dakota stated that he pointed his weapon at the deputy at his grandmother's residence because he wanted the deputy to shoot him.

23:12 However, when the deputy did not shoot him, he cleared his weapon and let them take him into custody. He even told them in this further interview that Summer was helping him, help him in, him out, helping him out. She bought him close, and he says, she quote unquote got me right, and you know, he said, I didn't want to steal anything. There was some money in the car, in the truck. I used that to get some gas, and then goes on to say that Summer, when Summer was asleep, Summer's legs started shaking at one point, and so, in his words, she was trying to sleep dis him whatever that means. So if you shake your legs, you're sleep this and someone you know. Then he goes into this whole thing saying that it didn't matter that they were all they were all screwing him in his sleep and said that's why he shot him, and all the other stuff he did is just obsolete according to his own words. And then he was also asked why did you kill your mother? And his only response was obsolete. He said that I really wish we would just kill this recording because they were recording it, right, I really wish we would just kill this recording and start over, and I'll just tell you that I shot them bitches and that was it, to be honest with you, because I mean, I really don't give a fuck.

24:32 I have no remorse, I don't care. I'll do it again, and it doesn't matter why I did it. So I mean, it just goes on and on and on and all these other recordings you know about why he did what he did, and it's because he's a piece of crap. That's why he did what he did. Now, something that was interesting to me too. Whenever they finally finished all their interviews and they were flying the Coda back home. He was brought via a State Police airplane that they had, and you know, you kind of wonder sometimes once someone they got him good, like, you know, what do they talk about while they're on the plane, And you know, Detective Bowden said that Dakoda didn't really have much to say on the way home, just kind of a matter of fact and sitting there, and he did tell me he looked at him one time and said, dang, you did good, detective like kind of gave him kudos for the job. He did, which is bizarre to me, like it like it was a joke. Almost. Now I have to tell y'all something, probably one of the most screwed up things that I've ever come across, and I've come across some screwed up stuff, Okay, and this is just I don't know. Y'all got to take this for what it is. But I had to sit back in my chair and my jaw dropped when I found this out. Okay, I'm going to post this online too, because I want you to see this. It's crazy. So Dakota makes it back to Louisiana, right, they put him in his jail cell and he's chilling, and you know, the parents have just been killed. Right, It's just twenty four hours after they've been murdered. And you will never guess what Detective

26:03 Balden has to do because this is this is so screwed up. It's like our laws couldn't even predict how screwed up it would be to be able to mitigate this before it happened. There had to be an authorization for cremation and disposal of the parents' bodies that had to be signed for them to be cremated. Guess who they had to ask for permission to have his body of his father cremated. Yeah. Yeah, they had to go to the jail and get permission from the very guy that murdered him for permission to cremate him.

26:47 I know, don't get mad at the police about this. They're following procedure. You can't. You can't cremate somebody until the next of ken signs the document. It just so happens the next of ken is the one who executed it, murdered them. They had to go to the jail and get him to sign permission to cremate. That is so sick. That is sick. I'm not blaming the police for it. They were just following procedure, but can you even imagine that's that's that's beyond that is absolutely beyond me. And I know right now someone's gonna say, wait a minute. I though there were other siblings. I thought Dakoda had siblings. He did, but they were in other states, and it's a there's a whole lot more boring detail to that, but basically, they had to get the permission to do something with the body. Dakota was the only next of kin available to sign the paperwork, and that's where they had to go to get it done. If you're watching me right now, podcasts like there's the letter, see it right there. I'm going to post it because it's that's just unbelievable to me.

27:47 That's crazy, all right. So as we talked spoke about before too, well, a lot of uh information was brought to light about Dakota having mental illness problems. And I'd be lying if I said no, he's just evil. He's just evil. I do think he's evil, but I think there's more to it. I do think that he's got a little stuff going on upstairs, and I do think that schizophrenia is part of it. Again, I'm not a medical professional and I don't get to make that decision, but just based on what I know and I've seen, Yeah, he's a little cukuoka che right. So his original or his first wife, his only wife, Kim Patman. She had mentioned to me in conversation that she at first felt sorry for Dakota when this first all went down, but again, not no excuses for what he did murdering people, but she really thought he was sick. You remember, like she said, oh my god, he had so many mental problems. I was afraid to put him in jail because I didn't think they were going to treat him well. He never got treated anyway, but she really thought that he had mental problems. I agree with her.

28:48 I think that he has schizophrenia. So it got me thinking, Okay, well, is that going to be some type of mitigating excuse for what he did? And by mitigating factor, I mean it doesn't excuse what he did, but should it play a role in his punishment for what he did? So I did what I do, and I just I looked up information on it. I wanted to know, and so I went to the National Institute of Medicine, Okay, and looked up people with schizophrenia in conjunction with violent crime, and I wanted to kind of get some information about the probability of that, you know, are one hundred percent of people with schizophrenia committing violent crimes? Because if so, to me, that kind of says something.

29:29 Again, doesn't excuse it, but it tells me a little bit about what you know, did he follow the norm of people with mental problems in line with schizophrenia? This is what I found. Persons with schizophrenia are thought to be at increased risk of committing violent crimes four to six times the level of the general population individuals without the disorder. So there is a raised risk four to six times. However, risk estimates vary substantially across the studies, and considerable uncertainty exists as to which mediates the elevated risk. Despite this uncertainty, current guidelines recommend that violence risk assessment should be conducted for all patients with schizophrenia. And then there was this long drawn out study with all these numbers which I didn't want to bore you with, but I did want to give you these results of the study in patience with schizophrenia, thirteen percent had at least one violent offense compared with five percent of the general population controls that they studied. So, y'all, thirteen percent of people with schizophrenia have a violent offense five percent of people without it in the study. Don't to me, that's not a huge difference, you know. I mean, it's still a low percentage of people that would have this type of violence. But there was a co factor here. The risk increased amongst people that had schizophrenia with substance

31:02 abuse as a co morbidity, and so they looked at that and said, okay, well, if you're doing drugs and you're schizophrenic, you know, you do have a higher risk of committing violent crimes. And you know, he chose to do the drugs. You know. So there were more than twenty epidemological studies that were done and on those that were reported between major mental disorders and violence, including more than ten that specifically had examined their relationship with schizophrenia. The reports typically found that schizophrenia is related to four to sixfold increased risk and violent behavior, and the studies did kind of range overall. But the findings on my research then found that roughly ninety percent of people with schizophrenia don't commit violent crimes, and that matters to me. That means, majority of the time, more likely than not, people with schizophrenia don't commit these violent crimes. The fact that he did do drugs and have schizophrenia did raise his chances, but still that would only be a little bit higher. I just it's not an excuse. The schizophrenia is not an excuse, and maybe a factor and that helped promote what he did. Maybe that's why he thought he was being raped or something. But he's just so inconsistent in everything that he does that I just don't buy that as a factor. That was the huge indicator. He didn't do it because he was schizophrenic. He did it

32:36 because he's an asshole. He just was an asshole with schizophrenia. That's kind of what I came up with. So it it does go to a grand jury, all right. So they take all of the evidence and they say, okay, should we indict Dakota Tario on these five counts of first degree murder. The grand jury did look at the evidence and the said, yes, we absolutely need to indict Dakota on these five counts of first degree murder. So that means we're going to go to trial, right, wrong. So the district attorney comes forward and says, look, there is a long, long history of documented mental illness with this guy. Okay, And while I You're like, well, Kelly, you just said that, you don't think that that should have been a huge factor. I don't. I think it's a factor, but not the biggest factor. The district attorney agreed with me on this, So there was a long history of mental illness. However, I need to talk to you about the death penalty real quick. If you don't know this, there's a couple of people that we do not execute.

33:40 We don't execute pregnant women. Lucky for pregnant women, there's a way to solve that they have the baby, then they can be executed. We don't execute mentally retarded people. We don't execute children, and we don't execute people that are considered to be mentally ill. A you know, a level that you can actually calculated. Once so the district attorney finally said, look, in terms of the death penalty, although it is absolutely factually warranted, everything that he did, he deserves to be killed. He deserves to be killed more than anybody on the planet. What would end up happening here is that it would lead to unending litigation because there's no doubt that there's going to be people out there. They're going to take up his cause and say, well, he shouldn't be executed because he has a mental illness, and it would go on and on and on and on, because the constitution says that we're not going to execute those people. So in an effort to I guess, make sure that he is convicted, but also to not put the families through just unending litigation. They struck a plea deal with Dakota. Now what's a plea deal. A plea deal is where basically he will plead to certain things and then he will be found guilty of those certain things. But he would have avoided the death penalty in this situation. It just made sense because

35:10 you wouldn't want to have the unending litigation. He never would have been executed anyway, you would just gone round and round and round. Let's just make sure he gets locked up for life. And in that plead deal, Dakota tario pled guilty to all five murders. And since he agreed to plead guilty to all five murders, he received life in prison. And there was a stipulation to that life in prison that he would be incarcerated for the rest of his life without the benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence. So what that means is he will never ever, ever, ever ever get put up for parole. It's just not going to happen. There's nothing that he can do, say or anything that would say you might have the opportunity to get out. They also could never suspend his sentence which means like say, yeah, we're gonna hand down the sentence, but you don't have to serve it. If you meet X, Y, and Z criteria, that's off the table. And then he's certainly not going to get probation because you know, he's convicted and he's going to go to prison and they're going to give him the time. And so it just makes sense. Although it doesn't feel right. It feels like they should have put a bullet in his head.

36:20 It just you know, the Supreme Court has just continued to hold that if you have mental illness, it just makes you morally less culpable. Doesn't mean you're not responsible. It just means culpability, which means that you had absolute one percent control over what you did. He did it, He was in control, but it wasn't one hundred percent his control. That mental illness just inserts a little bit that he is a little less morally culpable, and so the Supreme Court says, if that's the case, you have to hold it into consideration. So he's in prison. Now he's at our trusty old Angola And there's a little follow up to this that I wanted to give y'all instead of just saying so, yeah, he went to prison. No, check this out. So I spoke to Kim Patman, the ex wife, right, and she said, you know I used to actually talk to him.

37:09 He tried to contact me after his conviction and shot. So she said, you know I did talk to him at first when he would contact me, and she said, remember I felt sorry for him because I just know he's crazy, and you know he doesn't have anybody. I'm like, well, hell, young girl, he murdered his whole family, right, And I'm not picking on her. I'm just saying you would have had people to talk to you. He had and killed everybody. But she said no, I was talking to him, and she said I no longer feel sorry for him, and that kind of sparked my interest. I said, you don't. She said, no, I don't feel sorry for him at all anymore. And I said, even though he has mental illness and he's got that schizophrena, you feel bad. She said no, I don't. And I said, well, why what changed? And she said, well, when I was talking to him. I finally was like, okay, Dakota, what happened? Tell me what happened? Now that it's all over with and now that it's you know, there's no no, nothing what happened. And she said his response was that it just was what it was, and she said that he laughed about it. He just chuckled. He just kind of thought it was funny and it just is what it is and whatever, and his little saying he likes to say, and his little you know, thug nasty self, it just is what it is. I'm gonna go lay down on it either way. I'm ana go lay down on it either way.

38:31 I guess he means I'm gonna die on it. I don't even know, Like it's just so stupid. He's gonna lay down on it either way. And I'm looking right now at an updated photo of him, and I will post this as well, but his updated mugshot. They must be feed him good, because he's put on a whole bunch of weight. And something else I found out too, is that he's not in general population either. General population after you've been down for a while in prison, that's kind of where you're hoping to go, so that you a little bit of freedoms or whatever. But no, he continues to act an ass in prison, and so he's own lock up in prison as well. So he's just an epic, just screw up, just a total waste of space, waste of time, waste of tax dollars, waste of energy, waste of everything there is.

39:15 But we still get to pay for him with our trusty tax dollars to feed him and house him. So that's pretty much how this ends. He gets locked up, everybody loses their life. And let me add this a little bit in there. You might be wondering why did I name it nineteen day? Well, like I told you start to finish, he only knew Summer and Tanner nineteen days from start to finish. He lived with them five days before he executed the entire family. But this is a little tidbit I like to add in there. I didn't just call him a devil because I'm mean and want a name call. It's because I saw a social Security number and the last three digits are six six six. He is literally the nineteen day devil. So I hope that I gave you a whole lot of information, more than you ever would have dreamed of, that you maybe read or saw or heard people talking about. And I also have a little treat for my patron members, doesn't matter what level. That extra episode that I'm going to release to you is actually what I'm about to record now, and I'm bringing in Summer and Tanner's mother and Billie's former wife, Ronda, and I'm gonna get You're gonna get to hear, one on one what it's like to be the mother of two murdered children and to have your ex husband murdered at the hands of an absolute animal. And so I hope that you will listen to

40:47 that episode with just absolute respect for what this woman's been through for her family, and that we as a people can work towards something different here. There's got to be a chance we can make in society to where it keeps all of us safe. And I've taken it as a personal challenge to work on this. So y'all stay tuned maybe a little while, but I'm working on something myself. So I'm sure there's some people out there that are listening to I got some hay to rate out there, and I know they're listening to and oh my god, he has problems, you know, blah blah blah blah blah. We shouldn't we shouldn't hold him accountable because he's got mental illness. But I just don't buy that. I think that he's an asshole.

41:27 And you know, if we're not going to recognize that people can have mental illness and still be an asshole and it's not an excuse, then I'll just end this the way I ended the live and tell you if we're not gonna look at reality and we're not gonna look at the facts, and we're not gonna look at this with a through the lens of this guy's a total waste of space, well then we might as well just bend him over, shelve flower up his ass, and call him a vase, because we ain't getting anywhere anyway.