Crime Wire Weekly 7/31/26 | Kohberger’s New Plea, TikTok Influencer Sara Gilson, & eBay Owes $55M

0:16 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Crime Wire Weekly. We're going to cover just a few of the topics you're going to be hearing today. David spelled D four VD. Okay, his hearing has ended. He is in some. Serious trouble, very graphic testimony. In this preliminary hearing. We're going to cover all of that. Out of California, a TikTok influencer by the name of Sarah Gilson was killed after posting a TikTok about her husband, who was a what do we call that an essay ce Sam person. Yeah, I'm trying to stay friendly to the algorithm, but we'll get into that story and I'll probably totally screw up the algorithm.

1:03 We don't care tell the truth wed. Yeah, right. Full text of Nancy Guthrie's ransom note has been released. We're going to talk about that. A woman has been arrested in an extortion case regarding AI generating pictures in Louisiana. And we knew this was going to be coming, that AI was going to cause a lot of problems. It is, but this has got quite the twist that we're going to get. Into true crime time machine. We're going back on that and we're going to tell you a story from nineteen sixty. On this day, Florida has carried out the first double execution in quite a while, two executions on the same day. Governor Ron DeSantis. He means what he says right when it comes to the laws.

1:48 So we're going to talk about that. We're going to bring you to a tender date in which a sugar baby deal went bad. Real bad head. Actually, it's gonna be our Lustful Lawbreakers segment. Brian Koberger is back in the news. He's wanting to change his plea like that something. Yeah, not a shocking you know thing there, but considering the fact that he pleaded in court to all these things. We're going to give you the reason why a YouTuber has been charged in a massive fragrance scheme. This story stinks, guys, right. Kelly's going to have another foolish Felon's segment talking about a man arrested during a job interview with police.

2:30 You know, put yourself out here dressed for the job you want, not the job. The wife of Kansas City chiefs coordinator has been shot. Fortunately she did love. We're going to bring you that story in overtime, a man has been charged after his child overdoses on cocaine at the. Beach, because that's what you need to have at the beach with us. eBay is on the hook for fifty five million, fifty five million dollars in a mass A stalking lawsuit that I found very interesting. Also in overtime, and kayakers have found the remains of a woman missing for over forty years is also coming in the overtime segment.

3:13 So welcome to Crime Wire Weekly. I'm Jim Chapman and I'm Kelly Jennings. Kelly. Anything new, Yeah, there's actually a lot new. And I think that the news has been wild this week with updates and big cases and trials that are taking place, big. Ones, big ones. Yeah, that's right. And I know that you've been all over Nolan Wells one yourself. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm invested in that case. I mean, you know, it's right here around the corner from where we record. I mean it's literally an hour and a half away. Been there many times, the Ocean Springs, Mississippi area, And there's a lot of so much misinformation out there right now that you know, I'm struggling to correct I mean, because people make up their minds and they can have I will never understand how people can have all the evidence sitting right in front of them and still go another direction.

4:10 The reality of our life is this, people will believe what they want to believe, and it's regardless of the evidence. I mean, we find, we have videos, you can have audience, think about it. Think about this too, Like you ever met somebody, I'm guilty. I'll tell you this right now. If I've ever met somebody before and then my best friend doesn't like them, I will make up my mind right then. Now. It doesn't mean over time that that opinion won't change. But I think sometimes we look through these glasses that we have. You know, everyone's got their own predisposition to what they think has occurred or will occur or has occurred, and it affects the truth. And the truth cannot work that way. Yeah, you know, the truth has got to prevail regardless. Right, I agree?

4:51 All right, let's start out our first story in Forever. Pretty much I have called this guy d four VD, not realizing his actual it's you know, who would pronounce that as David? I don't know, but the edgy way clearly how her name is pronounced, So we're gonna go with David. A multi day preliminary hearing in Los Angeles has given a clear the clearest look yet at the evidence prosecutors say they have against singer David Anthony Burke known as David but spelled D four VB in the killing of fourteen year old Celeste Hernandez. Now. Burke, who is twenty one years old, is a he's a murdering the teenager after she threatened to expose their relationship and damage his music career. He is pleaded not guilty the first degree murder, continuous sexual assault of a child under.

5:46 Fourteen, and mutilating human remains. A judge is now deciding whether there's enough evidence to send this case to trial. Now. Celeste dismember body was found in September of twenty twenty five, and we covered it on this show. It was inside the front trunk of a tesla. Uh and they commonly refer to that as the fronk. Yeah, my corvette opens from the front. Well, my part has a front trunk, and it's called a frunk as a regular trunk. There you go. Well, you need to step up. Girl, it's called a bronk. It's in the back. Right, all right. So detectives showed photos at. The hearing of the remains pulled from the tesla and LAPD detective Joshua Buyers describe what was visible. Quote, there you see the head and torso minus the limbs. Other photos showed blue plastic fragments embedded in a knee, pieces prosecutors said came from an inflatable pool that was used during the dismemberment. Photos of a severed head were also displayed.

6:51 Two fingers were missing. Prosecutors previously indicated those fingers carried a tattoo of Burke's name. Booking photos of Burke showed he had a tattoo of Celeste on his left ring finger as well. The medical examiner testified about the autopsy, including two puncture wounds to the chest and abdomen that were determined to be the cause of death. An LAPD detective he testified about nearly fifty sexually explicit photos recovered from Burke's phone and iCloud data. The images themselves were not shown in open court, but the detective described them and identified both Burke and Celeste in some of those photos. The first online contact between the two, according to testimony, dated back to August of twenty twenty two, when Celeste was eleven. The sexual relationship, prosecutor say, began when she was thirteen. Graphic text messages were read in court detailing passed and future sexual encounters in discussions about their relationship. Other messages showed Celeste talking about taking Plan B, getting an abortion, and later expressing deep regret. One message attributed to her read, I killed my first kid for you. Throughout the testimony, prosecutors repeatedly emphasized her age.

8:11 She was thirteen and Burke was eighteen or nineteen during that period. Detective buyers also testified that items were ordered to Bart's home under aliases under the name Travion Davis. Prosecutor says he ordered a fireproof matt, a shovel, an inflatable pool, and several chainsaws from Amazon. Two chainsaws were recovered at the home and they showed no blood. A third purchase from home Depot was never found. A burn box described as a mini cremation style device was ordered under the alias Victoria Martinez, and it was found unopened and in its original packaging. Detective defense attorneys rather questioned why it was not tested for touch GNA given that some people had access to the home. Criminologist Samantha Torch testified the blood samples from the trunk of that Tesla, as well as stains on the garage floor. Matt a rowing machine and a Tesla charger plug produced statistically strong matches to Celeste DNA. The defense challenged the strength of some mixed DNA samples in the decision not to further test those were covered chainsaws. Prosecutors alleged they made three trips to the Santa Barbara County after celeste disappearance, including the day they believe she was killed. Cellar data from a phone linked to Burke and the motim in is Tesla put him near Highway one point fifty four, which is the

9:42 same stretch of road where Celeste passport ID was later found by a roadside worker who happened to step into the. Brush on the night of the alleged trip. Record showed out going calls made from the phone to Celeste number at twelve to four pm, and body camera video from a February twe twenty four welfare check was also played, and it Burke told a deputy that Celesti had told him she was eighteen and that he hoped she would be found. And you know, at the center of this case also was money. Interscope Records executive said Burke's contract was worth up to nineteen million if future albums were delivered. His financial manager testified here in between ten and eleven million between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty five. So He's mean, Aaron had a ton of money.

10:30 And the big concern here was this would get out that he was messing with his child and it would ruin his career. And they are framing that as the motive for this horrific murder of this child. I mean, I would have to agree. I think this is first of all, sometimes I have to take a step back and think about something. And eleven years old, y'all, is sixth grade. Just a fer perspective, eleven years old is a on sixth grade. So by the time she hadn't even made it to high school. By the time you're in eighth grade, you're thirteen years old. You're dealing with, you know, the regret of terminating a baby. You're in a relationship with someone way too old to ever have been.

11:19 You know, this is predatory, that's what this is. I mean, there's no reason that an eighteen year old should have any interest whatsoever in an eleven year old. You have nothing in common, and that alone, in perspective, makes this just off kilter to begin with. But then you know, things like the chainsaws that are purchased. We all can imagine what happened here. She was lured to the home, they're fighting, he kills her, what stabs her or whatever, and then they dismember her body with the chainsaws. So they can harp on the DNA all they want to, and how strong of a match the DNA is. They can do all of that. But what happens here is that we have to let common sense prevail and a child is missing. You ordered all of these chainsaws. You can obviously see the premeditation here because things were bought under fake names, and it's all going to add up.

12:07 I know that's circumstantial, I get it, but it makes sense that money is the is the is the reason, and she's a child and they figured, you know, hell, she's been under what his stead here for so long as a child that they did. I guess he thought nobody would care. She could go missing and he would continue to make his millions. Yeah, horrifically. I mean, this is a little member, a little girl. This is a little girl. And what as a mother, and I know you're a father too, but as a parent, you know, I have children this age right now. They do not have the capacity nor the uh, the maturity or ability to be dealing with the level of problematic things that were happening here. This is a child fighting an adult and she didn't win, right, So I hope that he gets everything that he's got coming towards him.

12:55 Same. Yeah, all right, let's go to uh Tulsa, Oakland and man TikTok. When this thing first took off, do you remember, like at first, I didn't get on it because I I don't know, I just thought that it was going to be a fad or something. Yeah. I was the same way. Yeah, I mean I certainly didn't see it being as big as it is. Me either, and with great interesting fun stuff. Because I'm now I'm I'm addicted to TikTok. Come please follow her TikTok, y'all, My TikTok is horrible. Please follow her TikTok. I don't don't she wants to be a TikTok star or something. But Jim thinks I want to be a TikTok star. I just want to hold the fall in love with my bird. Teddy is a freaking and it's his third birthday by the way, so happy birthday to my bird.

13:37 But anyway, tiktoks that people can fallow. I don't even know what it is. I think it's add unspeakable to the podcast or something, is it? I think whatever, it's just me anyway, I don't post a lot on there, but regardless, I love TikTok. I like watching the videos, and I like when the algorithm gets in line with what you what you like. You know, I've got a lot of policing videos and stuff like this. But with great things comes a lot of responsibility. And now it's a couple dealing with some serious problems here. So, an Oklahoma social media influencer and hairstylist was fatally shot by her estranged husband less than two weeks after posting a TikTok video accusing him of being a pedophile. Sarah Gilson, forty three, was found dead Thursday, July twenty third, alongside her husband, Jeremiah, who went by Sean Duffy, who's forty eight.

14:24 Police say the deaths appeared to be a murder suicide. A child in the home discovered the scene, which that I don't know how you even recover from that as a kid, but a child recovered that scene and is the one who called nine one one after hearing what was described as a disturbance. According to police, officers initially responded to a domestic violence call around eleven sixteen PM after dispatcher's heard a woman screaming followed by what sounded like a gunshot. A short time later, a boy called nine to one one from a neighbor's house and reported that his stepfather had shot his mother. When officers arrived, they found both Gilson and Duffy dead from a parent gunshot wounds to the head. Gilson, who went by at Miss Gilson on TikTok and she had over thirty thousand followers, posted a video on July eleventh, participating in a popular Netflix documentary trend which I've seen this go viral. I've wanted to do it too. Through that music plays and it's like you're getting ready, you know, set up for an interview, and in the clip, she sat in a chair facing the camera and wrote in a text overlay, preparing for when Netflix drops a documentary about my soon to be ex husband, who I just found out is a pedophile. She added, I wish I was joking along the hashtags along with the hashtags referencing the trend. The accusation stemmed from events in early June. On June ninth, the fifteen year old girl who played on a youth basketball team in which her ex husband coached and her to the child and her parent, reported to police that he had inappropriately touched her during an event at an elementary school. Another coach intervened and reported the incident. Police

15:55 said similar conduct toward the same player had allegedly occurred over an extended period across multiple jurisdictions and states. Because Duffy is a member of the Osage Nation and the incident occurred on tribal land, the case was referred to the US Attorney's Office for review on a potential lewd molestation charge. Police contacted Gilson the following day and advised her on seeking protection. On June tenth, she obtained an emergency protective order against Duffy in Tulsa County, and then court records show the order required him to stay one hundred yards away from her and the home. In the filing, Gilson alleged Duffy had a firearm, threatened suicide, and Quote went on the run. The same day. The mother of the fifteen year old player had also filed for a protective order, alleging Duffy had kissed and touched her daughter, invited her to his hotel room during the tournament, and offered her money to Quote keep quiet. Gilson had previously sought protective orders against Duffy in twenty twenty one. Those were dismissed after she did not appear for the hearings.

16:52 Gilson leaves behind two children. A GoFundMe was created to support them, with Gilson or with organizers describing Gilson as an incredible mom whose children were the center of her world. Police said the investigation into the deaths continues, but there is no ongoing threat to the public. The molestation allegations against Duffy remain under federal review. Yeah, and if you're watching this on Patreon right now, you're seeing a screenshot. Of the actual post that she did with this trend on Netflix. And it's interesting that when she released that, it actually shut up on my feed. That's how I saw it. Yeah, And of course a few days, you know, shortly thereafter, find an article that says she's been killed.

17:37 And I remember when she put that. On there, I was thinking, oh man, that's going to have a repercussion. You know, I didn't know anything about the case, but in my mind, I'm thinking number one, I'm thinking. I hope she's not falsifying that. And he didn't do anything. I didn't know anything about that case, and sometimes he's divorces can get ugly. I wondered if it was certainly you know, I was in shock when I heard that same girl had been killed because I don't even follow her. It just shut up on my feed, or didn't follow her when she was alive. It just shut up on my feed as a recommended follow. But horrific and she was mad and she's beautiful girl.

18:22 And that video had one point five million oh yeahs. Yeah, it was everywhere, and apparently h push this asshole over the edge. You know, if he's indeed guilty of all of these things and then killed himself. And I would have to argue here that it's probably true because well, the reason I would say that, Okay, obviously. We don't know. Obviously we have no clue. But what I would the reason I say that is because if he offered her money to quote keep her quiet, then. Silence that would point to guilt. That would point to guilt, and just a horrible situation. And a child involved in this.

19:03 Yeah, you know, my own my own friend and she was my bridesmaid, was murdered by her husband and their child witnessed it. And these are just things that you I don't know how children are so resilient, I'll give them that, and that's one thing that I guess is good. But to witness something at this magnitude that young. We got to pray for those kids. Yeah, that's I mean, life altering obviously, but just that's bad. All right, Let's go to uh Tucson, Arizona and Nancy Guthrie back in the news, of course. Nearly six months ago, eighty four year old Nancy Guthrie vanished from her Tucson, Arizona home, and the complete contents of that first ransom note have been sent or sent to her family have been made public for the first time.

19:54 Let me ask you this real quick. Didn't TMZ release part of the ransom note or something at first? You will? There were seven ransom notes and TMZ did release one cent to them, to them, OK, to them, this was not that particular note, and there were pieces of this one. I want to say, they reported on. Yeah, but never has the full ransom note been read. So crime journalist Briana Whitney read the full note on Crime Junkie podcast. The message was addressed directly to her daughter Today's show co anchor, Savannah Guthrie, and it was sent on or around February second of twenty twenty six, which was one day after Nancy was reported missing. According to Crime Junkies reading, the note began, Hello, Savannah, we have your mother Nancy.

20:42 She is safe but scared. She will be held for ransom and once payment is received she will be released unharmed. We will be holding her. For a maximum of seven days. It then demanded millions of dollars in bitcoins, starting at four million, with the deadline of Thursday, February fifth, which escalated to six million if that was missed, with the final deadline of Monday February ninth, at five pm. The note continued, Once payment is received at the Bigcoin addressed below, she will be released within twelve hours of deposit to a safe drop off location back in Tucson. If the payment is not received by the last deadline on Monday the ninth, by five pm, she will be killed. Your mother is aware of this, and her life is in your hands. It is in the best interest of everyone to have this completed ascent as possible. You will not be able to contact me from here on out. There will be no negotiations. Do not play games. Law enforcement will not be able to help you. Authorities have previously confirmed.

21:48 The note contained specific details about Nancy Guthrie's home that were not public at the time, including the location of her Apple Watch with a white band, left on the floor near her bed in a disabled floodlight on the back porch. Those details led investigators to treat the communication seriously. A second note, since day's letter from the same IP address, with the final deadline still approaching, took a sharply different tone. It claimed Nancy died shortly after the abduction from what the sender described as heart related to issues. The messages stated the captors did not fully grasp the seriousness of her physical conditions, and said her death was unintentional, claiming she was quote buried in nature, and offered an apology.

22:33 The FBI had had said some ransom communications were determined to be illegitimate extortion attempts, while others remained under investigation as potentially legitimate. A California man has already pleaded guilty to sending fake ransom demands. Can you believe that related to this case? No other arrest had been made in connection with the disappearance, and the investigation continues to be treated as a kidnapping for ransom. So a few things about this case, And obviously I'm going to preface this by saying speculation. You know, obviously I have no more information than you or anybody else about this case. But I am just really feeling like this is what it is in this instance, Like they took her because they asked for an amount that they I think they did their research on Savannah Guthrie, first of all, and I think they knew what her income.

23:24 You can look that up online and see what celebrities you know, make and all that net worth. So let's just guess here. I don't know this, but let's just guess they're only asking for like three percent of her net worth. You know, then they fully would have expected she'll she'll pay the money, and then we can release the mom and then we're rich and life is good. However they did I think they did. I think they underestimated how necessary her medication was. And then you put that old woman under that kind of stress and she has a heart attack and die. You know what I'm saying, like, you can't look at the unintended consent or the consequences if this was your first kidnapping, of what that body will go through, what that person will go through, and then she up and dies, and they're fucked like, oh my god, we didn't This is not what we wanted.

24:07 You know what I'm saying, This is not what we wanted at all. And I think they panicked. I do think that they panicked, and they said, oh my god, this is not the plan. What do we do now? And that's why they would send another letter and say this was not intended. We did not mean to do that, you know, because I don't know that they necessarily did. Well, here, you and I have two different theories, right, go, So here's my thought. And of course, y'all we are totally speculatingdah, we don't know. Obviously, we know nothing. I have thought for a long time that. They killed her intentionally, okay, that it wasn't a natural cause this thing. And I think the reason they did it was they did not realize how big this was going to be, you know. And no, I don't think they realized that the President of the United States was going to come out and say, you have all the resources you need to get Nancy back. And I think they freaked out because they're like, if we if we return her, we're taking an even bigger chance because they likely would have been caught if that would have had the information she had some and somebody's gonna see something.

25:10 They were probably worried about that. And they knew if we just wash our hands of this, say she died of natural causes, we can get out of this. There's too much heat. I don't think they thought it would be this much heat on this case. I mean, in today's show, host, you wouldn't think would be that big of a deal. I don't. So this is where the question, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and I like talking it through with you because everybody's got different thoughts and we don't know. But my thing all goes back to her pacemaker. If I didn't have any intention of using her as a bargaining chip, like proof of life or something like that, then I would have thought she would have been done rather quickly. But that pacemaker continued working for a while. And that's the only reason why they don't know that. Well, they do know when it cut contact with the Apple device or when it stopped functioning with you.

25:58 Yeah, but it's like a Bluetooth. That's like if you're wearing Bluetooth headphones and you can get too far away from your phone and it disconnects. They don't know that the pacemakers when it stopped. They just know when she was far enough away that it was no longer connecting with. The Apple Watch. You can't get to Mexico if you're in the United States and your Apple Watch stay connected to your pace. But I thought they had pacemakers now that could send live data to that could send live data to. Not that I'm aware of. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I don't know either. My understanding was the it has to stay connected via Bluetooth to the device whatever that is in her case and Apple Watch. And when she got far enough away where that antenna, if you will, wouldn't reach, it just disconnected, which.

26:44 Would have meant that they kept her close by. No, it disconnected so she was far by. You just know what. But I'm saying it didn't disconnect immediately. Wasn't it like it went on for hours before? I don't remember it saying. See stuff like that, those little nuances, those that small detail is stuff that we would have to really. Yeah, I don't remember them saying it went on for a length of time. Well, I'll just leave it at this. Then I'd be very interested to know the exact amount of time and not speculation, but the exact amount of time on that, because if it did stay connected, let's say for forty eight hours before it disconnects, Oh, I know. It wasn't that long. It was it was within an hour or less. I'm telling you. It's like your headphones on your you ever wore Bluetooth headphones and then got too far away from or or your your car connects to your Bluetooth and on your phone, and maybe you leave your phone at your house and you drive to the store, and eventually as you're driving off together to the store, you're it disconnects from your.

27:45 Phone because that's at your house, same situation. You're talking minutes, okay, not not any longer than that. That's to my recollection. Now, certainly I could be wrong, right, but that's that's to my recollection on that. Regardless of it, it's horrific and I don't know that it Sadly, I don't think they're ever. Going to find this, Nancy. I don't. I don't think they will either. So just a quickly a quick research here says and again just a quick research says, a Bluetooth enabled pacemaker typically stays connected to a sinct smartphone or device only while within range, which is thirty feet, and loses its active pairing connection if moved out of range for more than roughly twenty four hours.

28:30 And so so it's going to disconnect the second they leave the house. Now it'll and what they mean by pairing is you'd have to repair it after twenty four hours. But it's not going to know where whether it's ticking. Or not for twenty four hours's only going to know it can only know when it's connected. Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense, and it says that data on her particular like type, according to this quick search again, is typically transmitted automatically once a day, usually between twelve am and four am, which. You would have to be connected for that to happen, right. Right, right, So you know, hey, I don't claim to know everything, you know? And so come on, I was tested and they said negative for knowing everything. But yeah, yeah, I think that she will be a very hard find at this point.

29:18 I agree. All right, let's stay right here in Livingston Parish, Louisiana, the great state of Louisiana. But this is big, okay, And this just hit the news. So a Morrero woman is facing charge. It not Marrero. Where's Marrero? That's it like down by New Orleans. Yeah okay, So people who aren't from here would know that this is not in the parish. It's out of the parish. A Morrero woman is facing charges as part of an investigation into online and phone threats, harassment, and extortion right here in our parish. So, according to the Sheriff's office, deputies arrested Haiti or Tez, she's twenty nine years old, and booked her into the LPSO Detention Center on the following charges unlawful dissemination of AI nude photos on line, impersonation, injuring public record, extortion, and domestic stalking.

30:05 One alleged victim was receiving threats of rape and other bodily harm in exchange for monetary funds to prevent threats from happening. And that's according to our sheriff, AI generated photos and shriff art all right, thank you. The wonderful people in other states don't know who it is. That's true. Give him a shout out. Shout out, sheriff. I know he's listening, all right. Uh. An AI generated photo or photos and videos were created of one of the victims and were sent out to numerous family members and friends. As the investigation continued, the sheriff said more threats were sent to the victims, now threatening to get one of the victims employments terminated. According to the Sheriff's office because of allegations of overseas suspects being involved due to past relationships and acquaintances in Greece.

30:51 Homeland Security helped deputies in this investigation. The investigation took a wild turn when search returns and subpoenas from search and suspect platforms used to make these harassing messages and threats started coming back. The investigation led back to an individual and the questioning of as at first believed to be a victim, but she's now the suspect. Haiti Ortiz talk about a twist in that case, and so as I understand it, she was doing this to other people, and it looks like she did this to herself to throw the throw the scent off of her, if you will. So if she's making AI.

31:34 Images of herself, she can say I'm a victim. Thinking police will never put two and two together with dumbas lpso. I'm not always going to know. I know, well, you know. This kind of is adjacent to something I saw yesterday, a report where an Uber driver had sent or accused these teenagers in his car basically of damaging and destroying his car, and so he had he had fined the rider's seventy five dollars, which I didn't know you could do because I don't I don't Uber. But anyway, the dad of the two girls Suber, Okay, I'm not jumping in a stranger's car. I'm sorry, I'm just not I'm not doing it. But anyway, the dad of the girls, they went and told their dad and he's like, what are you talk about. They're like, we didn't do anything of this guy's car. Well, then the the Uber driver submitted pictures of the damage that they did to the vacseat. It looked like food or vomit or something was all over the seat. Well, the dad's looking at it, and I was like, well, hold on a damn minute, because in the right hand corner of the photo, which you wouldn't have noticed unless I guess you were scrutinizing it was that little Gemini symbol, you know, it's like a kind of like a diamond. And he's like, that's AI. And so they contacted Uber, who promptly apologized and sure enough it was fake.

32:49 Yeah, to watch it. You have to watch it. Man, some stuff today, But I'm still mind blowing. You don't Ober, I do not Uber. You won't market place on marketplace. But if you travel, how do you get to your destination? If you travel, you fly somewhere. I get a rental car, Okay. I mean that's Coolah, we'll check it out. But like I get off a plane, right I may not have a weapon available, and I just don't want to get in a stranger's car. Really taking a taxi only in New. York where I'm in the midst of millions of people with other people. I'm just I don't know. That's a weird one for me. I don't like school.

33:31 It's just awesome. I don't think I've ever met anybody. But you're right, I won't do marketplace, all right, I read too many crime reports. You jump in the uber and I'll go by the awesome anties. All right, we'll do that, but back to that quickly. This is going to be a continuous problem with AI and photos and things like that. And the sad thing is they don't really have anything that can determine whether it's fake or not. As of this point. There'll be little idio secrecies in some of these pictures, but some of them. Are, won't. I think the laws we can look for these laws to be changing very rapidly as we get a grip of what's going on here.

34:14 That's right now. I mean, we just passed a law here in Louisiana about uh about that creating fake AI nude images and then extorting people. Yeah, within the last six months, right. And then the argument too became about well what if it's okay, So, like we have child predators, right, and they like to have child porn on their foot on their phones, Well, what if it's not real? What if it's fake images of child porn? Are we going to allow that? And the answer for that, right, and so the answer is no, we don't care if it's fake, we don't do that. That's weird and it's unacceptable. So yeah, like I said, I think we're in the right direction of starting to make make laws against it. That's right. All right, let's go on the true crime time machine.

34:57 Maybe booo, we're going to get a July first, excuse me, July thirty first of nineteen sixty and I'm going to tell you about a Las Vegas school teacher named Russell Allen who was searching for decorative rocks in a remote desert. This is in Congress at well near Congress, Arizona, and he uncovers a partially buried remains of a young girl. Okay, This discovery in a creek bed in that area would become one of the most haunting unsolved cases in Arizona. History and in the Southwest. The child, estimated at the time to be between the ages of three and six years old, had been dead for one or two weeks.

35:43 Her body showed signs of having been burned. She was found wearing white and red shorts, a distinctive checker blouse, and an adult sized and adult sized rubber flipflops that have been cut down to fit her small feet and secured with leather stripes. Her fingernails toenails painted bright red, and no definitive cause of death could be determined due. To some advanced decomposition and. The effects of the summer heat, but the death was ruled a homicide. Investigators noted two other disturbing areas of soil nearby that appeared to be failed attempts at a burial, along with adult footprints and possible tire tracks. So the community obviously deeply moved by this this is a young child, residents bound together. They raised money for a proper funeral, and the little girl was buried under a headstone that simply read quote little miss Nobody with the words blessed or the pure in heart. For sixty two years, her identity remained a mystery despite nationwide appeals at the assistant and countless leads. On March fifteenth of twenty twenty two, the Sheriff's office announced that advanced DNA technology she had finally given her a name, Sharon Lee Gallagos. Sharon was born on September sixth of nineteen fifty five in New Mexico, Alamo Gordo. She was two month shy of her fifth

37:13 birthday when she was abducted on the afternoon of July twenty first of nineteen sixty. While playing with two cousins in an alley behind her grandmother's home, a couple in a dark green nineteen fifty two Dodge sedan approached. They offered her candy and new clothes, and when she refused, the woman, described as a short, heavy set person in her thirties with dirty blonde hair, grabbed the child and forced her into the car. The man, described as thin with sandy hair with a long nose, drove away at high speed. Witnesses, including her cousins, immediately reported the abduction. Roadblocks were set up at the New Mexico Texas border, but the couple was never found. Investigators later learning the pair had been seen in that area for several days, if not weeks, before that kidnapping, and they were asking neighbors to pointing questions about Sharon and her mother.

38:11 At the time, authorities. Briefly considered whether the Arizona remains could be belonged to the New Mexico girl, but differences in clothing, an initial age estimate that seemed slightly older, and the roughly five hundred miles distance between the areas led investigators to discount that connection. Technology of that era just was not advanced enough to confirm or rule it out with any certainty. Now that change with modern forensic science, and in twenty twenty one, the Sheriff's office partnered with AUTHRAM, which is a Texas based forensic laboratory specializing in degraded DNA samples. Using forensic grade genome sequencing, scientists extracted a usable DNA profile from skeletal remains. Despite the extra degregation and genealogy that pointed to a potential biological sembling, Rapid familiar testing confirmed a match with Sharon's half brother. The identification, announced nearly sixty two years after this body was found today, is the oldest case connection cold case identification rather in the County's history, and it were ranks among the oldest salt cases by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

39:32 So while Sharon Galagos finally has her name back, the investigation into abducted and murdered her continues. Authorities are still looking for information that could identify the man and woman in the green car and explain what happened in the roughly ten days between her kidnapping and the discovery of her body in the Arizona Desert. Sharon's remains were eventually returned to her family, and the little girl once known is little Miss Nobody, is no longer forgotten. Exactly sixty two years later. You know, nineteen fifty five, it says was her birthday, and that's the year my mama was born. And to think, you know, that you've gone that long and nobody know who you were is just a tragedy. I think we could all agree that, you know, I wish it was a little Miss Unknown, not little Miss Nobody, that.

40:26 It was a weird, weird choice of words, but that's what the community chose. And but. This is almost like a community tomb of the unknown soldier in a weird way, you know, like people regarded the child, you know, they cared if they didn't know who she was and to be found in a creek bed like that. But you know, the captors are probably dead. The killers are probably dead at this point because she'd be in her seventies. That make these guys probably you know, nineties. So will it be solved, Probably not. But I can tell you, sitting here today, I would have much much rather be able to identify her and let her rest in peace and her family know than to catch her killers at this point. It's it's moot if they're dead, you know. But genetic genealogy. Genealogy is a gift. Uh, it's incredible. I've said this before, but I spoke personally with the incredible C. C. Moore, who really has you know, driven this, this this science, and I think that only good things are going to come come from this.

41:27 I agree. And if you're watching on the Patreon right now, of course we do the video versions of this podcast, you can see the actual headstone with little Miss Nobody on it. Pop that up for you, as well as a newspaper article. Yeah on the case. Just because it's old doesn't make it any less important. And so I'm glad you. I'm glad you wrote that one and cover that one. That's a good one. All right, let's go to Stark, Florida. Now we're about to get dark and to the point with this one, because Ron DeSantis is not joking. Is not joking. F a fo So, Florida executed a former police officer Tuesday afternoon and planned a second lethal injection hours later, marking the state's first double execution in more than sixty years. James Aaron Duckett, sixty eight, was pronounced dead at one nineteen pm following a three jug three drug lethal injection at Florida State Prison.

42:19 He was the eleventh inmate executed by the state in twenty twenty six. Dominic Anthony O Kee Cooney is how I had to look that one up because it's a different Okcone Junior, he was eighty, was scheduled to follow at six pm the same day, which would make him the oldest person executed in Florida's modern history. The pairing of the two executions on a single day is the first in Florida since May of nineteen sixty four, when Emmett Blake and cy Dawson were electrocuted. Same day executions were more common in earlier decades. State records show Florida carried them out thirty two times between nineteen twenty four and nineteen sixty four. Nationwide, the last time a state conducted two exit acutions on the same day was in Arkansas in twenty seventeen. So the South is like not playing around.

43:06 With these executions. Duckett, a former Mascot police officer, was convicted of the May nineteen eighty seven rape and murder of eleven year old Teresa May mcabbey, and on the night of the crime, the girl walked to a convenience store. Duckett, the only officer on duty, was seen interacting with her near the store. Her body was later found in a nearby lake. Medical examiners determined she had been sexually assaulted while alive, strangled, and then drowned. Duckett maintained his innocence for nearly four decades. His case rested heavily on circumstantial evidence, including fingerprints, tire tracks, and a hair comparison. Later questioned by defense experts. Recent DNA testing ordered after a stay of execution on an earlier warrant, returned inconclusive results. Oki Kone was convicted in June of nineteen eighty six. It was multiple murders. It was the murders of Rain and Martha Artzner, the parents of his ex girlfriend. And this was at their home in Holiday in Pascoe County. Sorry, I'm struggling here with all these locations. He shot Raymond in the face and shot Martha four times, including three times in the chest.

44:15 He received a death sentence for Martha's murder and a life sentence for Raymonds. At the time of the crime, ok kone was angry over the couple's role in the breakup of his relationship. I'd have to argue here that those parents were probably right sound talking. Yeah. Both men were sentenced under non unanimous jury recommendations that would not meet today's standards in Florida, which now requires at least eight votes for death. Duckett's jerry voted eight to four for death. Okone is voted seven to five. Both spent nearly four decades on death row. Last minute appeals to the Florida Supreme Court and the U. S Supreme Court were denied. Duckett's lawyers argued unresolved questions of innocence and DNA handling. Okcone's attorneys cited his advanced age, sidney and prostate problems, and other ailments, contending that lethal injection could constitute cruel and unusual punishment. Sorry, kJ comment here, Get out of here, Get the hell out of here, because I think shooting people in the face and in the chest multiple times is forty damn cruel. Not to mention their daughter had to live her entire life, so I don't give a shit about your prostate, sir, all right.

45:22 Governor Ron DeSantis signed the warrants. He has accelerated the pace of executions in his final years in office after relatively few in his earlier terms. Florida carried out a record nineteen executions in twenty twenty five. DeSantis has said the goal is to deliver long delay justice to victims' families, noting many of the crimes date to the nineteen eighties. Critics, including anti death penalty groups, called the double execution and escalation, and question both the logistics of back to back procedures and the fairness of cases involving non unanimous juries, advanced age and lingering evidentiary disputes. Again, age doesn't matter to me? Does it matter to you? I could care less. Prison of Fifi did not publicly detail any special logistical measures required for the six hour gap between the two lethal injections.

46:06 Florida uses a three drug protocol consisting of a sedative, a paralytic, and a drug that stops the heart. Florida has carried out twelve executions in twenty twenty six, continuing its position as the nation's busiest death penalty state this year. A couple of things on that man, you hit the nail on the head. Florida don't play Obviously, they're rolling them out two at a time. That's a big deal. You know, I know there's people out there don't agree with the death penalty. Sure, the evil that I've seen in cover every day. My personal opinion is there's some people that just don't deserve to be breathing oxygen. I'm sorry to say that, but that's my opinion. Now that being said, one thing I do want to say is, you know Governor Desciantists, who has done a phenomenal job in Florida. Everything in Florida lightly seems great. There areomy is on fire. He has got to be one of the best governors in history, and I'll tell you what he turned out, So he's not going to be governor this upcoming I think twenty twenty eight is when the new governor will start there May And if I was in Florida, I'd be like, term limits suck, even though I'm a proponent of that in most instances. In this instance, that's where term limits are bad things.

47:27 Well because people. Like that, Well, whoever he endorses is going to really matter because you know he'll expect them to follow on. But you know, I wanted to bring this up to our listeners because it's just a thought to ponder here. Okay, but back to this discussion about unanimous juries, because that's been brought up. I this is unanimous jury specifically, is a topic that my opinion has changed dramatically because when I first heard about unanimous jury, like in a perfect world, I was like, hell, yeah, you're right. You know, if this is a death penalty case, I I think that everyone on the jury. Now again this is old me, okay, but everyone on the jury would obviously see this as death penalty worthy. You know what I'm saying, Like, this is a capital case where you've done something so egregious, so horrific, so dark and devious, that everyone on the jury would see that the death penalty was warranted. AKA, let's talk about like a school mass shooting. But the person who changed my mind on this, and it only took minutes, okay, is a man named Max Shacter. Max Shacter is the father of one of the victims in the Parkland shooting in Florida. And what he told me that changed my mind was that the killer of all of those kids, with a documented history of being a nuisance and a problem, the only reason that he was not executed for what he did to those kids was because there was a juror who from the jump said, I don't care what happens, I will not vote for the death penalty. So one person can throw an entire

49:00 jury as far as getting the death penalty. So my mind has been changed on this permanently. I don't believe in unanimus suries. Talk to me, no, go for it. I mean, I feel like in the case of someone being executed, somebody there has some the situation that you brought up, that's why you have strikes, and so the prosecution didn't have to allow that person to be on the jury. They obviously did. They didn't use their strike, so that's their fault. Quite frankly, if somebody says no matter what, I'm not going to guess what that disqualifies. Yeah, but if they didn't say it at that point in the in the jury selection, you wouldn't know, Well.

49:45 That's correct. So they said it after, is what you're saying. From what I understand. From what I understand, Okay, well if that's the case, that's a different scenario. But to me, if you have a jury for something as serious as being put to do out because guess what, people have been put to death that we're innocence doesn't happen all the time, But DNA has exonerated people off a death row. Look it up. It's a pretty shocking number. So it happens. If you have a jury and let's say two people are one way and the rest of the jury is another way, there's some doubt somewhere on that jury. I feel like for capital cases, I'm not necessarily against it.

50:28 I know it's very. Hard to get twelve people do agree on anything, but on a capital case, I don't know. I mean, I'm kind of on the fence on that I haven't seen enough to change my mind that it's not a good idea. Well, if you're if you're like I think about it too in terms of like a school, Okay, you pass, if you make an A. You don't have to have one hundred percent A. You just have to have a really good score of A. If one person from the jump tells you, I don't care what happens, I won't vote for the death penalty. I don't find that to be fair because if you're on a capital. Case but they didn't say it till after, well. That's my understanding regardless. I don't know that they should have alternates. I mean, I don't know the process. I'm not an attorney here. But but if you this from the jump, are not willing or able to come down with a capital punishment verdict, then that means you're not an objective person. Because you're told that at the beginning that this is a capital case. You know that these this will include that type of ability, and I just don't like, I don't know. I just go back to that Parkland thing and all.

51:31 But that doesn't happen in every every jury. You're using one situation and saying we should do away with the whole law because one guy did that on one jury, I would say the majority of juris the vast majority, probably nine hours. If you give your oath that you can be fair and impartial, you give your oath that you can be fair and impartial. I would say that that's not There's not one person on every jury, and in capital case that has that opinion, because there's tons that are unanimous for the death that'll be But if. You're looking at it, and I won't believe it, but I'm just at this. If the law states that if you do this, that the death penalty is an appropriate according to the law, that the death penalty is appropriate for what has happened, and then you just look that law in the face and say, Nope, I'm not going to do that. Don't care. I just don't find that to be justice. I don't find that to be fair because eleven people on the jury.

52:33 I agree with you. Yeah, I'm just saying that's not every case. But if it was my kid one case, if it was my kid in that one case, it would matter so wholeheartedly. Of course, you know. In that one case, but you you let that idiot. It sounds like this guy was an idiot control the law for the entire country because he had he pulled that off. I just don't think that a unanimous jury is probable in a death penalty happens. I just don't. But I don't think it's I don't think it's going to be. I don't know how to explain what I'm saying. I don't think that it's more. I'd have to look at the stats on it. But I guess what I'm telling you is this, I was wholeheartedly for unanimous jury. I thought that it would be captain obvious to everybody. That's the death penalty. It just, I guess didn't occur to me in that moment that you can be the best person on the planet with good morals, good values, good sense of direction, but still be against the death penalty.

53:26 And that means from the start this person may not get just desserts that as I see fit. And again, that's a personal. Thing out there like that, that's what you jury strikes for. Right Well, I don't know. All I'm saying is my opinion is able to be swayed, and hey, it could change again. I'm trying to sway it right now. It could be changed again. But I will tell you what Alex shafter. I will never forget that child. I will never forget what he went through. And to know that one person walking around Florida denied that family the peace of mind have known that that ass white will never you know, breathe again. I just it irked me. Maybe it's all Maybe it's an emotional agree with you, you know. Maybe it's just an emotional knee jerk moment.

54:08 But all right, well, let's lighten it up. Yeah, let's lighten up. Let's go to lustful lawbreakers. All right now, I've got an interesting one for you today. A sugar baby arrangement has gone bad when a young woman who apparently wanted nothing to do with the strings attached fled a home of a Florida man who then gave chase and his truck, rammed her vehicle, pulled a gun on her friend, all these sorts of things. That's right, It went bad quick, according to investigators. David O'Brien, who was sixty seven, mind you, he meets Myra Turbik, who was twenty one this month, on the Tender dating app during a subsequent exchange of messages, O'Brien explained he was looking for a sugar baby, and according to the ad on tender, he would pay one thousand dollars each visit, plus dinner, and provide shopping excerch.

55:18 Sounds goody, Jay, you know I am a sugar baby, Jim, but I'm married him and he loves me. So O'Brien and the sugar baby as it were. They agreed to meet for a meal this past week, and Turbick was driven to the date by three of her friends. Okay, to meet this guy O'Brien. They hook up, they meet, they have dinner, He gives her two hundred dollars. He then took her to the lingerie store, where he bought her three different items of lingerie. After O'Brien provided Turbick with another six hundred dollars at the restaurant. The pair then goes back to his residence in a retirement community, which O'Brien purchased in April, incidentally for two hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Tourbick then tells police that she began to feel kind of uncomfortable in his home and she contacted her friends and said, hey, come pick me up. So with his sugar baby wanting to leave, O'Brien says, wait a minute, now, you should give me my money back because that was part of the agreement. Declining the refund request, Tourbick says, now you're not getting none of your money back. She leaves the property, gets in the car with a friends and leaves the area.

56:30 O'Brien pissed off about this. Apparently, he jumps in his Ford f one fifty and he starts to chase the four people. He subsequently rams the vehicle at a traffic circle, causing it to strike a poll He then allegedly came around again and hit the victim's car again, causing it to become disabled. So, while Turbick and two of. Her friends run, a twenty two year old mail occupant of the car was confronted by O'Brien, who pointed his send me automatic rigor at him told him to get on the ground or he will kill him. Eventually, O'Brien became distracted, and the victim told cops he was going to be shot or run away, so he chose to run away. The defendant then attempted to locate other victims briefly until he heard sirens coming. And when the deputies get to the scene, O'Brien was at his f one p fifty, had the gun in his possession, and Turbic and her three friends they came back and everybody gives a report, and in this report they said they were in fear of their lives. During questioning, O'Brien said the topic of sex first came up during dinner, with more details of the arrangement.

57:42 To be discussed with Turbi. Upon returning to his home, so O'Brien added, he began a massage Turbick's feet and she was on her phone the entire time. How insulting that is. Insulting now, When the woman later announced she was going to call an uber, O'Brien told cops he knew thing he weren't going to go as planned, and he asked for his money back. After Turbek refused the cash. He said he knew he had been scammed and angered. That angered him and that's what led to all this chasing down, the run and pulling of guns. So, after initially being read as rights, O'Brien told police of a prior sugar baby that he had. He said that paid relationship worked out perfectly for him. So seen above.

58:30 So if you're watching this on Patreon, you're seeing this above the screen, you can see the guy. He definitely looks a little bit older, and he has been booked into jail for this stunt on a ninety thousand dollars bond. All right, I think my opinion on this might surprise you. I really do. But let's be for real right now. Okay, everything that man did after the woman walked out of the house was wrong. Okay, totally wrong, totally wrong. However, whenever you're a sugar baby, now, I've really never been one, so I don't really know how this works. Okay, but I have a very very hard time believing that this woman did not understand that there would be a sexual component to this. I have a very hard time believing that you went and bought lingerie, you went and did these other things come on and she said, according to what you read, she said sex came up at dinner and that they were going to talk about it. So I'm not an attorney here, but I do think that there is a mitigating factor insofar as he was being led to believe that this payment was being affront for what would come to be. So if she knew sex was being discussed at dinner, why did you continue to play along, take all of his money, go back to the house, and then call people to come get you.

59:51 It does feel like you were scammed out of your money now, sir, sir, sir, I'm sure there is an old lady in your retirement community who is a freak and she would do these things for free. So you just need to stay in your age group. Maybe it'll get easier. But you did dead wrong. You shouldn't have done that. And the poor guy who got the gun pulled on him glad you made it out of that. But I do I do have to say here that this does I do feel like he got played. I'm just gonna tell you, I feel like he got played. Well, there's no doubt about it. He totally got played. But you can't react that way. No, Fortunately, you need to say, you know, maybe this is my wake up call that I don't need to be on tender looking for sugar baby, right right? I mean, I mean that shit can happen.

1:00:32 What is your favorite candy, Jim reesis do you know, minus sugar Baby. Oh it is interesting. So just those are good too. They're really good, but they get stuck in my teeth. All right. I hate this guy's name, I hate talking about him, I hate even giving him any any light whatsoever. But I'm about to talk about Brian Coburger. On July twenty third of twenty five, a judge sentenced Brian Coberger to four lifetimes in rism without the possibility of parole. And I think we're all pretty familiar with his four victims that were slaying. It's going to be Xana Kernodle, Kayleegansolvus, and Ethan Chapin, as well as Madison Mogan Well. Just over a year later, on July twenty seventh of twenty six, Coburger requested a withdrawal of that guilty plea in a petition for what's called post conviction relief, which was filed in Idaho's Fourth Judicial District Court. Now. Coburger writes in an affidavit attached to his petition that his council failed to inform him of exculpatory discovery that was turned over by prosecutors during plea discussions, and suggests that this evidence would have changed his decision to enter a guilty plea to the murders, and this is a quote, namely, clumps of hair found in Ethan's hands, Coburger writes in the filing.

1:01:48 So on January twenty seventh of twenty three, the Trace Evidence Unit at the FBI finalized a report detailing the results of laboratory testing that had been done on evidence found at the crime scene. That report revealed that debris had been found in both the right hand and of Ethan and the left hand of Xana, whose bodies were discovered just a few feet apart from one another. The debris was examined for hare's microscopically consistent with hares in the head hair sample from Coburger, but none were found, according to the report, which was included in a filing made by his attorney, An Taylor on June the sixth of twenty five. This is approximately one month before Coburger agreed to the deal with prosecutors. The debris in Ethan's hand is not described as clumps of hair in any court filing or police record, but rather in retired FBI agent Chris Whitcomb's book about the murder's broken plea. So Coburger's petition and accompanying affidavit echo many of the questions posed by Whitcomb in his book, which was released in May and seeks to understand the reason for the unexplained plea made in the case. In press appearances and interviews following the book's release, Whitcomb claimed that the clumps of hair in Ethan's hand had not been tested to his knowledge, and in Coberger's affidavit, he writes that there was a failure of further inquiry into that evidence. According to a court document unsealed earlier this year, the DNA expert hired by Coburger's defense team had in fact tested the hair in Ethan's hand. That expert Ruth Ballard examined one hair

1:03:21 from the right hand and found it to be morphologically consistent with decedent Chapin's own reference hair. It's unclear if Coburger knew of Ballard's findings prior to the filing of his petition, or if he plans to claim that there is some unexamined clump of hair that the FBI or DNA experts had not tested. So, if I'm understanding that correctly. He found his own hair in his own hand. Is what their own defense expert said. Isn't that how you understand that to be sound? Yeah? So this is not Coburger's only grievance, which I don't find that to be a grievance. I mean, of course, your own hair if you're fighting in you know you would I would expect your hair to be in your own hand if you were fighting for your life. Anyway, it's not Coburger's only grievance.

1:04:05 As he makes additional arguments in the petition for a trial, Coburger claims that he had ineffective assistance of counsel and that his guilty plea was not entered knowingly or voluntarily because it was induced by unkept promises and because of threats asserted by his legal counsel. Even though you stand up in court before the judge and they ask you, have you been promised or threatened? Blah blah blah anyway, all right. Those arguments about Taylor may be hard to prove because she is only one of the few carefully vetted and accomplished litigators in Idaho approved to represent defendants and death penalty cases, which Coburger's was before he entered his plea. To avoid the outcome, the former criminology student He's thirty one, also had assigned and written factual basis document which stated he was willing to hereby admit responsibility for the deaths of his four victims, who are all brutally stabbed to death. On November the thirteenth of twenty two, Coburger fully further admitted that the killing and murder of his victims was wilful, unlawful, deliberate, with premeditation, and with malice afterthought in the factual basis document. He again admitted to the crime on the day of his sentencing last year and was asked, are you pleading guilty because you are guilty? This is according to Judge Stephen Hippler, and the answer he gave was, quote unquote yes.

1:05:22 I mean, this is a prime example of the justice system just going awry. This God did it. Everybody knows he did it. And of course, you know, hey, I don't fault him for grasping at Charles whatever. I get that, but dude, you freaking did it. You said it in court. This is why appeals drive me nuts. There are some very limited circumstances where appeals are in order. This is not one of those circumstances. This guy right here, Well, what's happening here is that he loved the attention he got, He loved being all over the news, he loved taking the responsibility for these murders.

1:06:07 And now that his happy ass is in prison and he's having to deal with the consequences of everything, now he's unhappy. So he's filing forms that you know, all inmates are going to want that post conviction relief. But what bothers me about it? To your point, I agree, But what bothers me about it is that this is the prime example of why our justice system and our courts are backed up, why it takes forever for things to take place, because we have numb nuts like him who are wasting time. Yeah, you know, and if he is also, if he's indigent, and if he's found to not have funds, the taxpayers are the ones funding this pony show, right, and it's going to result in nothing, that's right. Enjoy your consequences, sir, You did.

1:06:51 It all right. Well, let's let's go to Chicago, all right, Illinois, And I'm gonna tell you about a pretty crazy scheme that this guy actually got away with for a while. He's a Chicago YouTuber and he built an online following showcasing high end cologne and perfume collections. And he has now been charged after authorities allege he ran a sophisticated return fraud scheme involving modeling clay and used bottles. So his name is Philip Carter. He's thirty. He faces three felony counts of mail fraud and three misdemeanor counts of theft by deception. Cook County authorities say he ordered thousands of dollars worth of luxury fragrances online, so I want you to keep that mind. So then he removes the original bottles, he replaces them with modeling clay or used bottles. He carefully reseals the packaging so it appears unopened, and then he returns the package for a full refund. The investigation, dubbed Operation O de Fraud by the Cook County Sheriff's Office Organized Retail Crime Unit, begins in March after Nordstrom reported suspicious returns. The retailer will receive boxes. The boxes look sealed, but when they unsealed, them modeling clay was.

1:08:16 Inside, Like, wouldn't just common sense tell you to go buy an off brand perfume from Walmart put that liquid in it? You would think, like, you know what I'm saying. Well, he pulled it off. For quite a while. Investigators will review financial records, internet at Internet activities, shipping data, and other evidence. And on July twenty second, twenty twenty six, they get a search warrant for his apartment and get this, they recover seven hundred and fourteen fragrance bottles with an estimated value of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, along with resealed boxes ready for shipment. Package is already filled with modeling clay, additional modeling clay, a heat gun, glue, and other materials, So we.

1:08:57 Got all the evidence. Shall also operated a YouTube channel dedicated to Fragrances where he would display these collections, and he built quite the following doing that, and authority say his scheme allowed Carter to keep genuine fragrances while receiving refunds for the packages he returned filled with freaking clay. So look, he got away with it for a while. Fun fact here, I actually collect miniature vintage perfume bottles. I like them. I don't care if they have the fragrance in them or not. It's about the bottles. But I was on my what Not app I do love me some whatnot and there were people that were selling, you know, on their channel, They're selling these high and perfumes. I don't understand. How will you buy a perfume you haven't smelled before. I don't understand how you do that, because, like, I'm very sensitive to smells.

1:09:46 Are you a lot of people? Am I weird? Got to the stone. I do not buy perfume. I'm very you can. Go and they got testers. Man, no, but he's but if he's but if you're buying. Them the online, know what Kelly like? If you wear Drakar, you know what you smells like. Oh? I thought people were just buying new perfumes like to try popular. These are like obsession and stuff, So. They're getting a deal by buying I got it. Okay, Okay, it's just selling colone. Okay, I got it. I don't know. I just always thought it was weird that people would make that much money selling cologne on these channel if they haven't smelled it before. Because people what does it smell like? And he's like, oh, flowery, And I'm like, that's that that gets you to buy a hundred dollars bottle of perfume without Yeah?

1:10:31 No, I mean people do their research. Yeah. Well either way, Hey, you had a good scam, but your perfume? Do you wear. My natural mood? No? I do, actually, but I'm very sensitive to smell. So you know, the what's the stuff that every girl was wearing from Alta? The number like number sixty seven or whatever. It's the one that every girl became big. I wear that because it smells nice. But that doesn't help much, does it. No girls will know what I'm talking about, like their numbered and it's orange and it was like a big scent, like everybody was going crazy over it smells good. That's what I wear. Jim Now, jim Ware is a cologne. Can we talk about your colone?

1:11:12 Sure? Jim Were is a cologne that smells really, really good. And I have a name for it. That's not its real name, but it was dubbed by a lady at the grocery store and he came talking to me one day. He's like, Kelly, I wore my cologne. I sprayed it before I went into the store. Do you remember this, oh woman that was checking him out? He asked me what the name of it? She said, what's the name of that cologne? What is it? What are you actually? Well, the name of it is Savage, but it's by deal War Okay, But at the time, I couldn't. I never can remember. A lot of people asked me what sin is that? Yeah, I'm on the spot, so I'm like, I can't remember. And she said, she told. Him, well, it should be named panty.

1:11:54 Draper liquid, paint liquid. Can y'all let me tell you. I'm never at a law for words ever, And she got me. I couldn't even I even have. I just looked at her and I'm. Like, Coy's phrase it. Now, I'll go parad. They should call that Linke wood Pain. Looked me right in the face when she said it, and I'm like. Dang, he liked she liked her some Jimathy. I didn't say nothing. I just I just looked at her like I've never been told that. Damn all. Right, check it out, check it out. It's good stuff. Yeah, I'll sell it to you online. Just and it feels like modeling clay. Yeah, all right, uh, let's do some foolish felons because this one is going to take us to Jones County jail. Uh and this is going to be in Mississippi. So a job interview for a corrections officer position at the Jones County Adult Detention Facility took an unexpected turn earlier this month when the applicant was arrested for an outstanding felon. He warn't Keishawn Moore, thirty, had applied for a corrections officer job with the Jones County Sheriff's Department and reported to the jail for an interview.

1:13:00 During that process, Captain Cynthia Terrell or Terrell conducted a standard background check. That check revealed that Moore was wanted in neighboring Lamar County on a felony credit card fraud warrant. So I guess you know you gotta just do what you gotta do, but wow, take yourself right onto the jails. Sorry, all right. Jones County Deputy Davy Keith was called to the detention facility and placed more under arrest on the spot. Moore was taken into the custody of the Jones County Sheriff's Department and later transferred to the Lamar County Sheriff's Department to face the outstanding charge. Officials with the Jones County Sheriff's Department confirmed the sequence of events, but have not released additional information about the underlying Lamar County warrant, any statements more may have made during the interview, or whether he had prior contact with either agency. No bond or court appearance details have been made public at this time, but this case serves as a stark reminder that applicants for positions of public trust in law enforcement and then corrections are subject to rigorous vetting, sometimes with immediate and unexpected consequences. And we want to give our shout out to listener Jessica Hartwell for sending us that story. And that is your foolish felon of the day.

1:14:11 You can't beat that. Definitely a foolish felon. Probably not a good idea to go apply for a prison job when you have warrants. And look, he's dressed nice. I like his shoes, nice, looks like he was ready to get the job right. Unfortunately they ran his name. I mean, come on, man, what are you thinking? You know you got warrants. There's nobody in the world that has warrants at nothing. I love when I watch these clips from BODYCM footage and the people walk up to the car and they say, well, you know you got three? What? What did I do? What did I beat my wife? You? What you did? He met? What you got Warrens for? I was watching a TikTok one time. It was so funny. But you know, cops know their areas, right, and so they know their criminals, they know their people that are frequent flyers in jail. And this cop goes and he pulls this car over and the guy jumps out and when he sees the cop, he takes off running and the cop doesn't chase him, and you're like, what the hell?

1:15:04 And he's like, Eddie or another guy's name, Eddie. You don't have Warrens, bro, you don't have any And he stops. He turns on. He's like what I don't He's like, no, bro, you don't have Warrens. He's like okay, he comes walking back to the cop. That's good stuff. All right, Well, uh, let's go into overtime. I'm ready, let's do it.

1:15:59 All right. We're going to start off in Ashburn, Virginia, and look, if you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan, the offensive coordinator, Eric Banemy, say a prayer for him. The fifty seven year old wife of the offensive coordinator, was shot multiple times this past Sunday night at the family's home in Louden County, Virginia. Their twenty seven year old son has been arrested and charged in connection with that shooting. Now Deputies from Lyden County Sheriff's Office were reported to a report of that shooting around seven thirty pm this past Sunday. Upon arrival, they found me of the enemy suffering from multiple gunshot wounds, including injuries to the chest and arm.

1:16:43 She was transported to the hospital with serious injuries and was listed in stable condition as of Monday. Elijah Banimy, who is twenty seven, was arrested at the scene. He has been charged with malicious wounding, use of a firearm, and the commission of a in discharge of a firearm inside a dwelling. He is being held without bond at the Louden County Adult Detention Center, and Sheriff Mike Chapman said me at the Enemy, who was the one to call nine one one following the shooting. So imagine having to call nine one one and say, my son just shot me. Eric Banemy, who has been with the Chiefs training at training camp in Saint Joseph, Missouri, left camp to be with his wife.

1:17:27 The team issued his statement. Monday saying it was aware of the incident involving his family and would not comment further out of respect for their privacy, adding their thoughts and prayers with them. Chiefs coach Andy Reid addressed the situation after practice on Monday, saying his heart goes out to Eric B. Enemy and the mea is stable, which is a plus. We all love Eric and we hate seeing these things happen. Eric B. Enemy returned to the Chiefs this year's offensive coordinator, while previously serving as the teams offensive coordinator from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two after spending time with the Washington Commanders, and the family does maintain a home in Northern Virginia.

1:18:12 Horrific situation. I remember him Eric the Enemy when he played college football. Yeah, great, we do. He played for it, you know. I want to say it was Notre Dame or Michigan. I can't remember exactly which team it was, but I remember he was very good. You know, domestic violent situations are always horrible, and it's in cases like this though, where you know it's your own child that has done this to you. And I don't care that he's an adult. That mama, you can't tell me, wasn't heartbroken. You know that her own child would do this to her. And I'm so thankful that she is alive and that she is doing well, and again our hearts and thoughts and prayers, and I hope that she does recover and well from this. I bet you it's going to come out sooner or later that there's been some mental health struggles with the song. I would think, yeah, but it made me think about we used to have a neighbor a long time ago and everything turned out to be okay. So I just want to preface with that. But the police had ended up coming and surrounding the home, and the sun was acting up, and something just stuck with me because they were calling the sun to come out of the house. Obviously, all the neighbors are looking and I will never forget the adult, the dad of the neighbor when they were bringing him out to the police, you know, walk walked to us, walked us, hands up, hands up. He just the dad was yelling, oh, please don't hurt him, Please don't hurt him.

1:19:31 But the dad was the one that had had to call nine one one because of some mental health issues. But hearing that dad yell please don't hurt him, Oh please don't hurt him, the struggle there isn't lost on me that you know. This has gotta be rough for that family. Yeah, all right, let's go to New Jersey and a New Jersey man is facing multiple charges after a two year old boy in his care allegedly overdosed on cocaine while the family vacationed at the Jersey sh I know two years old man, come on. Alexander Moles, thirty nine, was charged with endangering the welfare of a child, possession of cocaine, possession of drug paraphernalia, and possession of prescription legend drugs. The incident occurred while Moles was staying at Did you.

1:20:14 Say prescription legend drugs? Yeah, the when you're looking at like the schedule, like schedule one, Schedule two, Schedule three, it'll say prescription legend. Huh at on the top. Like legend, Like I don't understand. I think it's almost like. A legendary drug. No, I think it's more like Ledger, Like I can kind of think of it that way, but I don't know. I mean, I don't have the official on. That, but that I just referred to as that. I'm sorry. Yeah, so like it's it's officially something that is prescribed and to be used in a specific way, and obviously he's not using it that way. But anyway, The incident occurred while Moles was staying at the airbnb with a woman and several children. Court documents state that Moles was responsible for watching the children while the woman took a shower as the group prepared to check out around eleven am.

1:21:02 When the woman returned, she noticed the toddler appeared sleepy. Moules later drove the child toward a hospital after the boy experienced difficulty breathing. While en route, He called the woman and asked if it was okay for the child to fall asleep. She told him it was not. En dialed nine point one North Wallwood Fire Department responders located moles vehicle stopped at an intersection EMS administered two doses of narcan. The child responded and was transported to Cooper University Hospital Cape Regional for further treatment. Preliminary blood tests confirmed the presence of cocaine in the boys' system. Moles later told investigators he believed the child had taken painkillers. At the hospital, he requested a lawyer after being read as Miranda rights. A subsequent search of the Airbnb authorized by a judge, turned up a partial orange and white pill, several tinfoil packets labeled a narcotic pain medication, a clear plastic bag containing a white pottery substance, and several short plastic straws. Moles was arrested and held at the County Crewctional Facility. He was released with conditions following a detention hearing on July twenty fourth. He's represented by attorney John Zirich.

1:22:07 I believe you would say that is The investigation remains ongoing. Authorities have not publicly disclosed the exact relationship between Moles and the women and the children. The toddler survived the incident. But this one's weird. Why would the child be sleepy after cocaine? I don't know. Maybe when you overdose on it, it has an opposite effect. I would imagine, I mean, two year old a miracle. This kid survived this baby. Yeah, I'm two years old. So man, just never seems to amaze me. People that are around drugs like that, even drugs that aren't cocaine, right, Like, if you take medicine for something, get.

1:22:49 It out of the reach of your kids. Yeah, I don't think that they were worried about it. But in this situation. Yeah, with cocaine, I mean that's an illegal drug. But even your ones that aren't, even you're every day drugs, man, don't even leave tilin' all where a kid can get to it, right. Tragic, crazy that this this kid was. So I was looking at this because I'm thinking about someone that's high on cocaine, you know, and they're usually it's an upper you know, they're usually rolling. But it says that what happens when that heart rate skyrockets, the blood pressure explodes, the brain becomes over you know, over stimulated, and with the the body temperture can shoot up over one hundred and four degrees or sweating, tremors, nause of, vomiting, dilated pupils. You know all of that, so you know, so when you ever day so on, it makes you yeah, you go in respiratory distress is what's going to happen.

1:23:38 And so it's labored breathing and they're not getting enough oxygen. That's the second time I've been right. You've been so good twice today, guys, please put that on the official. Jimmy might be the only two times. Jimmothy got it right. Oh, it looks like look at his picture with that fireman mustache. They see it if they're watching on Patreon. All right, let's go to uh courtroom chronic. We haven't done one of those in a while. But I'm gonna tell you about a you know, this is Keyboard Warriors gone wild. Right here. A married couple who ran an e commerce blog saw a huge payout after they were cyber stalked and harassed by former eBay employees. Ana and David Steiner received get ready for this forty eight point seven million dollars in compensation after settling a lawsuit filed against eBay. The Steiners said the lawsuit comes after they filed this lawsuit in response to the company's widely publicized twenty nineteen cyber stalking campaign designed to stop their reporting. So this couple founded a blog and it was called e Commerce Bytes, and it published a newsletter that eBay employees will they considered it critical of the company. Well, you know what you can do that you can be critical of eBay if you want to. Well, the US Attorney's off for the District of Massachusetts said that this basically created like a shit storm in these people's life. The campaign including sending

1:25:10 anonymous and disturbing deliveries to the victim's home the people who own this blog, including a book on surviving the death of a spouse, a bloody pig mask, a fetal pig, and a funeral leaf and a funeral wreath. And they also sent them live insects. All this coming to your house. Can you imagine. The campaign then turned to online harassment when the Steiners began receiving social media messages criticizing the newsletter's content and threatening to visit the victims at home. The victims were then surveilled at their home and in their community, but recognized the surveillance and reported to police. Ultimately, seven employees connected to EBA's security team were charged in connection with the case, all who pleaded guilty to various charges. Five of the defendants were given prison sentences. CNBC and CBS reported that former eb EBA CEO Devin Wenig texted another executive quote take her down, in an apparent reference to Aina.

1:26:16 We Nig was not charged with the crime, but eBay as a company was and entered into what's done as a deferred prosecution agreement, compelling it to pay a three million dollar penalty, and as part of the settlement with the Steiners, eBay will pay the couple forty six point one five million dollars from the company itself, while we Nig will have to individually pay them two million dollars. Two other former executives also owe them a total of five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And that's what you call you messed with the bull and got the horns. Yeah, look, I'm there. That is life change of money right there. So and now they're discagreeing buck more money to do better and to do even more I mean online.

1:26:59 Yeah, good for them, Yeah, you know, good for them. I am so unimpressed right now to find out that that's eBay doing that. Like, you know, when a lion shouldn't acknowledge when a dog barks. Okay, ebe is huge and I'm not calling this couple of dogs by any chance of the you know, but obviously whatever they were reporting on was striking a nerve which tells me people only get mad about things that they feel that there is some truth to That's a fact, right, even if there's partial truth to it. I learned that, you know, a long time ago, about myself, Like, why are you getting mad about? It's because deep down there's a part of you that feels like what they said may have some legitimacy to it. And so you know, to send things that are blanket or not blanket, covert statements that you're gonna die. Give me a break, man, you're eBay, you know your eBay?

1:27:50 I you ever the CEO of the company sending take them down? And what you think that you think that that a pig of pig fetus is taking them down? What a douche move? Yeah, So please, I guess he's not gonna come after me and send me stuff. Send me a live pig and I will love it and name it Rosa. If I can get fifty million, you can send me a lot big blood on it. Whatever you want. Hell, yeah, you tell me you get Look, I'm gonna come after you. I'm gonna knock on your door. And they were probably writing things like eBay's fees are too high, you know, some people call it sebay. Yeah. Well, and I looked up while you were talking. Of that nature and you're gonna try to scare people. Bruh, Yeah, eBay, you're gonna try to scare people. Right, I'm mnst send you a book of how to deal with the spouse's death That ain't funny. Pissed me off.

1:28:35 Yeah, And I looked up a couple of their articles just now while you were you were doing the story, and some of them are like, you know, people are making real money selling on Facebook marketplace. It's a good side hustle. Like, it's not like they're out being just like a negative website. They were just talking about issues that people are experiencing. So yeah, good for them, Yeah, good for them. All right, we are going to go to Cape Coral, Florida, and this is going to be another story kind of like what we talked about identifying human remains, but human remains that were discovered by kayakers in Cape Coral, Florida, in a canal have been identified as those of a young woman who vanished more than four decades ago. The Cape Coral Police Department announced Friday, July twenty fourth that the remains belonged to rose Marie Gayheart, who was twenty three years old when she was reported missing by her parents in nineteen eighty five. At the time of her disappearance, Gayheart was living and working in the Cape Coral and North Fort Myers area. Kayakers found the remains in a canal in northeast Cape Coral in May of twenty four, and in May of twenty six, the department's Violent Crimes Unit received confirmation of the identification with the assistance of the Medical Examiner's office. For more than forty years, rose Marie Gayheart's family has carried the weight of not knowing what happened to her. Cape Coral Police Chief Anthony Sizemore said in a statement, while this identification brings long awaited answers, it also strengthens our resolve.

1:29:59 No matter how much time passes, even after four decades, our investigations do not stop and our pursuit of justice does not end. Authorities have reopened the case as an active homicide investigation, and he said that we are committed to following every lead. Gayheart was last seen working at a Cape Coral restaurant then known as Big Howie's Hot Dogs, and she was living in a trailer park in North Fort Myers with her boyfriend and his mother at the time that she disappeared. Her sister, identified in earlier interviews as Travis, told the outlet in twenty seventeen that neighbors reported frequent fighting at the trailer park and that she believed her sister had been murdered. Travis also said her sister's boyfriend's mother had written a letter to the family claiming Gayheart was being sent back to New York by bus, but Gayheart never arrived. The boyfriend's mother has since died, and the investigation remains active.

1:30:51 You know, when you sit back and thank I, thank you so thankful for that. But when you set and you think about the biggest sign tip discovery in the history of the world, probably DNA is it? Honestly the things that have been able to be accomplished in DNA are vast, but especially in when it's crime related. You know, back in the day. They had to identify you from dental records if you had them. That's the only way. That's the only way they knew who this person was. Dental records once that body. Had decomposed and it was nothing but bones. Now, not only can you because even dental records weren't a one hundred percent certainty. Now with the DNA, and it's advanced to where there's touch DNA for me.

1:31:40 In DNA, I mean, at one. Point you had to have the blood of the person and compare it to the blood of the person. That's the only way you could do it. Now you can. You can go brothers, sisters, cousins and make a match like this, miraculous gift to the world. Yep. And I would have to agree that there's something stick and here. Why would you write a letter saying you sent her back to New York by bus and then she ends up in a canal not far from where you live? No, yeah, oh yeah, something fishy going on there for. Sure, super fishy. All right, that's all we got for today. kJ Any final thoughts. Yeah, y'all need to check out Jim's exposed because he is covering Nolan Wells. You've been following that case, yeah, pretty strongly. And then I'm following the Clancy case of the children that were killed by their own mother. I have not released anything on that. I'm just letting y'all know that I'm on top of it. I know people have asked, and so y'all can look forward to something for me on that.

1:32:33 There you go. It's a current, current crime related podcast coming out from Exposed and Unspeakable for you to listen to. And my final thought would be, we're only like four weeks from kickoff LSU. Love me during LSU season. If they're winning, that's right, I tell you. If they're not, he's in a bad mows. Oh, I'm gonna be in a great mate. If they're winning the oh my gosh. We're gonna be like, hey, guys, there was no crime. It's a great life's peace. All we're gonna talk about is LSU the whole time, just kidding facts, all right, until next time. I'm Jim Chapman and I'm Kelly Jennings and we're your host of Overtime were weekly over time