April 19, 2023
Christopher Porco: Axe Killer | Season 2 Premiere

Kelly Jennings, Host of Unspeakable:A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings is BACK with Season 2! In this episode Kelly tells the horrible story of Christopher Porco who On August 10, 2006, was convicted of Second Degree Murder and second-degree...
Kelly Jennings, Host of Unspeakable:A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings is BACK with Season 2! In this episode Kelly tells the horrible story of Christopher Porco who On August 10, 2006, was convicted of Second Degree Murder and second-degree attempted murder in connection with the murder of his father, Peter Porco, and the severe wounding and disfigurement of his mother, Joan Porco.
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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime
podcast where I tell stories of real crimes
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with real victims, whose cases are
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how is this even real? I
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and combined with my years as a
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cases of evil acts, some so
evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.
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Jennings here, it's season three.
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me you I would have made it
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I have some great stuff prepared.
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today's episode, I've got some shout
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to tell him. Hey, so
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Thank you so much for joining?
Karen, I gotta ask you. You
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better message me. What's it like
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is calling people Karen's and you are
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Karen. You know what I'm saying. You're not one of those Karen's because
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I'm happy to have you, so, thank you so much for joining.
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I've got Haley Ballard. Hey,
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I'm wondering are you related to the
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of them. Are you from Livingston
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up. But hey, I see
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Taylor and Michelle, I don't have
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you're from Mississippi. I think that's
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I could give my opinion on.
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that said, Kelly, Hey,
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on the Casey Anthony case. I
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to hear your opinion. I'm doing
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done dune, duh, when I do
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that episode, y'all gonna like it. It's funny. Miss Kristen Hughes,
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glad this is so much fun.
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least, Mallorie Rue Hey, Mallory, listen. I actually know Mallory personally.
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We grew up together. She was
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a field in between us, but
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I remember her daddy worked at a
hardware store and she had a little brother,
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and we just had a lot of
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the fact that you're supporting me,
Mallory, means so very much because it's
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again personal. I know you personally, and thank you so much. Mallory.
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Please tell your brother I said hello, Tell your dad and your mom
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I said hi, And share right, share, and let everybody know that
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you're on the team now. So
that casey Anthony request, by the way,
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was a Leslie Cochrane. That's who
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miss Leslie, hey, I'm listening, girl, and I'm going to write
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you the most bang up episode.
So you just hang tight and it's coming.
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I promise, okay, and I'm
not going to break my promise.
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So today's episode is going to be
the Peter Porco case. Now, this
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is not necessarily a newer crime.
This is one that happened back in the
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gap, right um, around two
thousand and four. But this one's got
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creep factor one thousand, right,
speaking a creep factor. Hold hold the
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phone. Okay, I hope you
don't have kids in the car. If
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you do, they got to grow
up sometime, they can hear. I
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don't care. Okay, No,
I'm recording this right after Easter. Okay,
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I have to tell you the weirdest
trap always happens in my family.
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So my um, we went out
to my cousin's house and my aunt's house
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for Easter, and we had a
crawfish boil, and you know, she
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lives on a farm and she raises
horses and it's just a good time.
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She has a donkey, she calls
it her little jackass, and you know,
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cows and whatnot. So we're having
a good old time. Well,
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as the evening progressed, it was
a good Friday. My cousin, her
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name is Brent. Hey, Brent, I love you. Cousin. She's
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so smart and beautiful and she just
has got it going on. She's about
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five foot nothing and just a cowgirl
at heart, you know. But anyway,
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she said, hey, you want
to come by the house and come
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check out my new pig. She
actually got this pig. I love animals,
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and it's a popularly pig named Pickle. And I said, oh,
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hell yeah, I want to go
see your Pickle. So we jump in
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the car and we drive over.
So I jump out of the car.
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I'm immediately accosted by a peacock.
She has a peacock too. A matter
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of fact, guess what, I'll
post a picture. I'm gonna make a
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note real quick. I'm accosted by
this peacock and that's exciting to me.
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And then pick Hole comes winking up
right, I'm a hey, bag guy,
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how are you doing? Pig all? And so I'm leaving on the
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pig and we're just having a good
time, and then she goes, I
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crap you not, hey, I
gotta castrate my cat real quick. What
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She's like, Yeah, I've got
this cat. He's in the house and
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I've got a castrating real quick.
And I said, I want to watch
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she said, okay, come on, so why not why don't we just
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castrate a cat on Easter? So
me, my kids, my husband,
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my sister, her family, we
all go upstairs because my cousin's house is
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really cool and upstairs of her it's
like a barn dominium house. It's really
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neat. But upstairs she actually has
her own vet. She's a vet near
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you know, she's a vet.
She has a clinic in her upstairs of
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her home and an entire lab.
Okay, it's freaking cool. So we
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go in her lab. She puts
the cat under anesthesia, and then as
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a family, we crowded around the
swirly chair the cat was laying on and
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we emasculated him. We pulled his
little balls off, and she's would we
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have had a castrated cat? I
have pictures because it was so freaking weird,
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So go check out the facebook.
I'm going to post pictures. It
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was my first and last cat Fixon, but it was interesting, so if
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you want to go see it,
go check it out. It was It
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was crazy. All right, here
we go, Peter Porco case, all
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right, this is gonna be out
of Delmar, New York. And like
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I said, this one is super
freaking creepy. So we have a family
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of four. Peter and Joan,
they are the parents, okay, and
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they are very good people according to
everybody's you know, description of them.
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And they had two sons named Christopher
and Jonathan. So there's this beautiful family
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of four. Dad worked as a
court clerk for an appeals judge at the
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Supreme Court of New York State,
so he's a pretty successful fellow. Joan,
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who was the mom, was a
speech pathologist, and they both made
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a really solid living and we're just
living the good life, you know.
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They had a nice home and a
beautiful family dynamic. Their sons turned out
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to be good guys. Jonathan was
the oldest and Christopher obviously was the youngest.
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So this case is going to be
on November fifteenth, two thousand and
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four. That's when it all starts. I was a sophomore in college when
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that happened. So Peter is fifty
two years old and he does not show
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for work, and so that was
really weird. His coworkers knew that he
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was always prompt on time, he
did his job. He was not someone
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who would not show. It was
extremely odd and out of the norm and
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so something else that was kind of
strange about it was that he was really
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near retirement. So this fella had
put the time in. He was ready
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to like, you know, kick
up his feet and you know, drink
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of my tie and go to the
beach and do whatever it is that retired
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people do. I wouldn't know about
that. I'm working my ass off right
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now. But in due time.
So, being the good people that they
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are, they sent a court officer
to the home to say, hey,
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go check on Peter. It's weird
that he didn't show up for work.
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Now. When the officer arrived at
the home, there was a key in
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the door lock, but the door
was kind of a jar. It was
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pushed open, and he could see
that there were drops of blood on the
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doorstep. So rut Row right,
he knew something was wrong. So he
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steps inside and he sees Peter Porco's
body and this guy has been bludgeoned to
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death. This is not like someone
got hit over the head and fell and
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was killed. He literally described it
as a blood bath. Blood was everywhere
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everywhere. I have crime scene photos
I'm gonna put up for you on Facebook
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when this drops. But everywhere y'all. I mean blood all around on the
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walls, all over the floor,
countertop, sinks everywhere, and so there's
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just literal shock and horror by this
officer that responded to the scene. So
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he calls responders, right, he
calls number one help. Oh my god,
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he's dead. There's blood everywhere.
When they get there, they go
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running upstairs because there's white you know, lives with them, and they find
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Joan in the bed, bludgeoned like, cannot make out her face. She
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is beat so badly. Now,
amazingly, they think she's dead because they
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can't find her face, but she's
alive. They take her pulse and she
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is alive. So they are dumbfounded
by this. How could she possibly be
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alive? Well, based on the
wounds that were both of them had had
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received, they determined that they had
been attacked with a large blade, And
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by large blade, I mean a
three foot axe, an axe laying in
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the bed next to her, an
axe literally axe murderer. You know what
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I'm saying, Holy crap, Do
you know what it takes to swing an
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axe? And I know right now
some burly man's like not much. Okay,
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Well take it down to you know, five ft four healthy woman.
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Okay, swinging an axe once or
twice as hard as you can, you
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know, and then let's up that
to like thirty times. Wow, the
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effort put forward to hack these people
up. The wounds were devastating. Jon's
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wounds obviously were extensive, but she
had them on her body, her arms,
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and a lot of them to her
face. Her brain was literally exposed.
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The responders could see her brain while
they were staring at her, going
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how was she even alive? So
they jumped into save her. But like
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I said, the extension was boom
jim. So the responders jump in to
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save her. But like I said, the damage was very extensive. And
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when the responders literally went to go
put that airway mask on her, they
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couldn't find her airway. They couldn't
tell. It was like mints to meet,
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They couldn't tell. So they just
did their best to try to put
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an airway over her and keep her
alive. They rushed her to the hospital
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and they found that she was st
at least three times with the large blade
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directly to the face. Now she
was barely clinging to life, but she
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was still alive all right. So
back at the house, the investigators could
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not figure out why Peter was downstairs, but blood was everywhere, Like I
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told you, I mean in the
bathroom, in the kitchen, everywhere.
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And Jones up in the bed with
her brain hanging out. How could this
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blood be everywhere? Are you ready
for this? Hold onto your butt,
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crack. This is what nightmares are
made of. Okay, they should make
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a They should make a horror movie
about this. Peter had sustained sixteen sixteen
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major axe wounds to his face and
head, including a penetration to his brain.
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He was hurt so badly part of
his jaw fell off during the attack.
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Can you fathom what I'm telling you
here? And please don't think that
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I'm just trying to be grandiose about
how gross this is. No understand what
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these people went through? Oh my
god. Okay, Now, despite beating
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mortally wounded, with his brain out
and his jaw off, he woke up
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sometime after the original attack. If
you want to know the testament to how
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amazing the body is, this is
probably one of them. He woke up.
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Not only did he wake up,
but he managed to get out of
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bed and go about his daily routine
before he finally collapsed. And died,
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y'all like a zombie. His body
got up and he went about his morning
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routine. So what exactly do I
mean by he went about his morning routine?
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Here are the things that he did. He spent some time in the
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bathroom at the sink, and they
know because by the crime scene photos which
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I will post trigger warning. Okay, it's court true crime show. If
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you are hey, if you're easily
offended, then I'm not your girl,
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right, don't forget that, but
I'm gonna post those pictures for you.
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But he was at the bathroom sink, but there's just blood pouring out of
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him. He then loaded the dishwasher. I got to insert something real quick.
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This is a shout out to my
teenage daughter. Honey. If Peter
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Porco can load the dishwasher with his
brain exposed and his jaw falling off,
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baby girl, you can do it
too. I have faith in you.
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Quit tell me your life's hard hashtag
be like Peter. The dude was still
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you know, joan shout out to
you girl. This is kind of morbid,
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but you must have had him trained
well, because that man went and
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straight up loaded the dishwasher before he
died and kudos to you man, all
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right, He loaded the dishwasher,
he packed his lunch, He packed his
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lunch, he made food, He
even wrote a check to someone. Think
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that through. This man is walking
through the house on autopilot, doing these
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things, all the while mortally wounded
and dying. Even creepier, at one
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point, he went outside to get
his morning newspaper like he did every day,
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and while bleeding to death, accidentally
locked himself out. He even got
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his spare key that was hidden in
a flower pot on the porch and let
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himself back in, and that is
where he finally collapsed and died on the
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front door. Stoop there. Can
you imagine what that scene looked like?
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So, I mean, how was
my question? I don't know about you,
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but how like, how can you
if I get a paper cut?
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I am like devastated For the next
thirty minutes, that was hurt. This
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dude's take an axe, sixteen acts
strikes to the face and head, and
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he's able to do all of those
things. So I did a little bit
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more research on this. So how
in the hell was he able to complete
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all of this? Well, based
on the coroner's report, while most of
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Peter's brain was nearly destroyed by these
acts wounds. The top portion of the
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brain is known as the neocortex,
and in the neocortex that's where they're going
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to house things like thought and language
and reasoning. Right, well, that
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was destroyed. But his paleocortex,
which is underneath that level, that's going
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to house things like your primal instincts
and your second nature habits, including his
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routine, and that was still intact. That's why he didn't know what was
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going on. But these autopilot things
that he did every day, His body
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just went into that routine and started
doing it until he finally just bled out.
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He literally had no concept of the
fact that he was mortally wounded during
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all of this. That's in now
when the investigators are looking through the home
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trying to figure out motive here.
Everything was there and I'm not going to
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say these people were filthy rich,
but they had money, they had nice
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things. So the fact that nothing
was taken told investigators from the get go,
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look, robbery was clearly not a
motive. Okay, if there was
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money, there was things that someone
could have taken, they didn't do that.
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But the massive number of wounds to
Peter versus Joan did tell investigator something
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that would mean that, hey,
he was the intended target of the attack.
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I would be willing to bet you
know, Jane's wounds were simply just
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to you know, make sure that
she did not interfere. She got three,
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he got sixteen. He was the
main target. So back at the
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hospital, amazingly, Joan is still
alive, but they're going to rush her
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back for emergency surgery to try to
save her life. And so right before
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they wheel her back, and astute
detective said, you know, let me
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let me ask her a few questions. I need to ask her a few
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things while she's being rolled back for
surgery. They didn't even know she would
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survive, right, So these are
the things he wanted to ask before she
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went back. Because she could still
shake her head yes or no. She
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didn't have a face, but she
could move her face up and down yes
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and no left right, you know, up down, left, right,
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So he asked these specific questions.
He asked four of them. Can you
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hear me? She clearly nodded her
head up and down in the yes fashion.
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He then said, do you know
who attacked you? She shook her
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head up and down in the yes
motion. Now these next two questions,
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you might be like, why would
he as that? Okay, come on,
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guys, you've been listening to true
crime a long time. I'm not
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your first radio here. Who is
most likely to hurt you? Who?
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It's going to be people that are
close to you and people that you have
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pissed off in some fashion, right, because who cares enough to kill somebody
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unless you're tight with them and they
they're gonna have something to gain out of
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it, whether it's just vengeance or
money or whatever it could be. So
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Peter's dead husband's out of the picture. Who's left the two sons? So
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he asks her specifically, did your
oldest son Jonathan do this? She shook
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her head no, very clearly.
The last question, did Christopher do this
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to you? She shook her head
yes. Holy cow. She implicates her
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own son as her attempted killer and
the murderer of her husband. So let's
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talk about Chris though, Okay,
so what do we what do we know
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about Christopher? All Right? He
was twenty one years old and he was
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a college student at the University of
Rochester, which was a three hour drive
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away from their home. Now,
people who were asked did say that he
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was a bit of a brat,
all right, and that during this year
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of two thousand four he had been
having troubles and his parents kind of had
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enough of it and they had called
him out on it, all right,
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But that doesn't make you a murderer. That makes you a son whose parents
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are disappointed in how you're behaving their
oldest son, Jonathan Porco, he was
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twenty three years old at the time. Now, this guy was a lieutenant
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on a nuclear submarine at the time, and they verified he was hundreds of
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miles away on a submarine. He
couldn't have done this. It's not even
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plausible. And people knew saw him
on the you know, on the submarine.
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Now, Christopher's alibi was that I
was at college, I was three
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hours away, I'm on camera.
I didn't do it. You know,
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There's no way. Well that's plausible, right. So something you have to
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think about, okay, is as
an investigator, not only are you trying
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to prove who did this, but
you're going to have to also sit back
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and think, Okay, everything that
I'm trying to prove, can it be
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either disproven in court or could it
be manipulated in court? Somehow to where
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there would be like this reasonable doubt
that a jury may not believe or understand
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what I'm you know, proposing as
fact or what happened. So I wanted
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to point this out to you while
we're going through the case. You know,
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let's think about court for a second. Brain damage could be argued as
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a cause for a for a false
accusation, right, So think about it.
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You're in court, you're a jury
member, and you're listening to this
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case, and the you know,
the investigators are saying, yes, she
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had massive head trauma, brain trauma. They were trying to save her life.
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She didn't even have a face,
but she was able to tell us
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that her son did this and shake
her head. Yes. All the defense
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has to do is come back and
repeat the exact same thing, y'all.
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She had massive brain trauma. She
didn't even have a face, She wasn't
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able to think clearly, she was
under extrem dress and the brain damage made
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it to where maybe her son,
Christopher is the only person she could think
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of. Maybe she was shaking her
head, yes, Christopher is my son.
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How can you as a jury sit
here and believe because she shook her
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head yes, with her brain exposed
that that is perfection and honesty and truth
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when she had severe brain damage.
You get my point. So while she's
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the one who said he did it, and it's his mother, I don't
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know, they might have put that
reasonable doubt in there. So they explored
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some other theories. Okay, because
motive matters when you're trying to solve a
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case. If you can't prove motive, or you can't at least allude to
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a reason of why someone would do
it, it makes it less plausible.
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Right Even as parents we look at
our kids and go, why would you
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do that? We want to know
why. There's got to be a motive
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behind it. All right, Well, here are some of the things that
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they investigated. This guy kind of
deep, Okay, Peter Poor Remember he
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works at the at the courthouse.
He had received a death threat right before
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his actual death from a disgruntled father
who had lost custody of his kids,
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and that man, to God and
anyone else who would listen, vowed revenge.
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He was pissed. Okay, that
man told everybody with no holds bar
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He told everybody, I'm going to
get a gun and I'm gonna go kill
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that judge, and I'm gonna kill
Peter Porco. He said it to everybody.
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He admitted he said it. But
when they did some further investigation,
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they were able to eliminate him because
the alibi was solid. It was it
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was absolute solid. Now, I
don't know about you, but when I
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used to hear the word alibi,
alibi to me used to mean when I
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was younger, like the lie you
chose to explain where you were what you
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were doing. Alibi is not a
lie. Alibi is just simply the explanation
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or the story of where you say
you were. So don't confuse the two.
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Alibi is not a lie. Alibi
is the explanation. So his alibi
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panned out. They were able to
verify one hundred percent that he could not
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have been the one who did it. Now about that time, amazingly,
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the supposed killer writes a letter to
the newspaper. He's going to be published,
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okay, And this is what he
says in that letter, And I
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quote Peter Porko wasn't even a challenge. Once I got inside, I repeatedly
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hit him in the head and neck
with a small axe I brought with me.
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I ignored all of his pleading screams, also, I beat Joan Porko,
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but unfortunately she survived all right.
So he took credit for what had
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happened, and he gave details that
the killer would know. But the writer
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who wrote the letter also took credit
for a local murderer, another one that
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had just happened, and he ended
that letter with, if you want to
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find me, you might want to
stop going after easy suspects. Show me
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the respect I deserve. Catch me
if you can. What a what a
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pompous person to write a letter to
the media, right, catch me if
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you can. So they did everything
they're supposed to do. They checked for
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fingerprints on the letter and DNA and
anything they could, but it was an
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absolute dead end. They didn't get
anything from that letter. So we've got
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a guy who says he wants to
kill them that doesn't pan out. They've
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got the supposed killer writing a letter
and explaining what happened, but no DNA
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to follow up one. Now even
crazier. Okay, where are my mob
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people at? Are y'all out there? The people who liked the mob,
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or maybe don't like the mob but
are intrigued by the mob. Right,
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I've always thought the mob was cool, and I know I'm not supposed to
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say that because the mob isn't necessarily
good. Guys become a one who doesn't
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00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:03.519
love a good mob hit story in
the movies, come one, all right,
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00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:11.079
check this out. Peter Porco was
related to organized crime member Frankie Porco.
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00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.839
Now, Frankie has known as Frankie
quote unquote the Fireman Porko. He
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00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.240
was his great uncle and at the
time, Peter Porko was serving time in
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federal prison for loan sharking. All
right, tell me that didn't have a
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00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:29.319
little mobesque, you know feel to
it. Now? What was the rumor
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00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:36.680
was that Uncle Porco Frankie was going
to be turning state's evidence and would testify
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in another case for time off of
his sentence. Okay. Now, even
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00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:48.119
more interesting to this was that it
was playing into the fact that the fireman's
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00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.880
axe was found next to the body
of Joan Porco and it was an absolute
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00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.720
look of a mark of a marking
of a mob hit. Right, I'm
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00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:02.680
mad, I'm the fireman made I
put out a hit on my nephew,
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00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.400
and then we're gonna leave my fireman
axe kind of as my signature. You
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00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.440
know on scene, but here was
the kicker on that. It didn't make
418
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sense because Frankie was actually in prison
for not being a snitch. He was
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offered a deal before he was sent
to prison for his loan sharking, and
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he turned it down. He wouldn't
take it. He's a freaking true,
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true time mobster. He wouldn't want
to take the deal, right, and
422
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.559
he wouldn't. He manned up and
did his time so that it just wasn't
423
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It wasn't panning out. But I
did go a little further into Frankie Porko,
424
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and I spent way too much time. I'm not proud of myself,
425
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:45.079
but I went down a rabbit hole
of like mobsters and racketeering and murdering the
426
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:49.200
Bronx and even found a story where
a horse head like a horse, like
427
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:53.839
hey, like a real horse.
His head was found in a councilwoman's pool.
428
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.920
She went outside and the horse's head
was in the pool. Like let's
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00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.480
just say, like shit too deep
for me to add to this episode,
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00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.720
but it was a legitimate story for
them to go like check and dive into
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00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.799
lot have mercy. Okay, but
again it just didn't pan out. That
432
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:15.279
was some other mob shit going on
at that time. So, like I
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00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.000
said, long story short, it
was not considered a mob hit after they
434
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.920
did, you know, all their
research on it, even though there were
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00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:30.359
a few mumbles of the fact that
Peter Porco was supposed to be roughed up
436
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:37.160
and assaulted over a dealing that he
had over some video poker machines with his
437
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.000
uncle, so that kind of like, you know, that really sparked my
438
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.160
interests. But again it just it
didn't pan out when it was all said
439
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.000
and done. They wanted to rough
him up, Okay, So there was
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00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:51.400
that mob tie ish stuff, but
it just didn't They could not find any
441
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.720
links to that. But again,
if I was a defense attorney, I
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00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:59.200
Shelly would be bringing up the mob, wouldn't you. The mob did it.
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00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.000
So the police say, well,
maybe we should take a little bit
444
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.079
more of a reasonable step. Right
now, let's look at the sun who
445
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:13.039
she did identify before she went back
for surgery as her attempted killer. So
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00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.599
they did what you would anyone would
do, is they went to go look
447
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.440
at security cameras. Right if he
was in the college, and he was
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00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.000
where he says he was, he
was supposed to be, which is what
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00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:22.720
he said he was in his dorm, then let's go check the cameras.
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00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:30.079
The cameras don't lie, and during
the time of the murder they got the
451
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.400
video from the dorm, but they
also said, well, we're going to
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00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.759
look at the cameras from not only
the security footage, but we're gonna look
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00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:42.799
at major highways and all toll booths
between the school and the Porco home.
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00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:47.519
That's a genius, right, because
any defense attorney could say, well,
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you know, if you saw his
car, he wasn't driving it, or
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00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.839
you know, they're always going to
bring up some type of explanation. And
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00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.240
by the way, I'm I'm not
down and being bad on the defense attorne.
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00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.720
That's your job, right, I'm
just trying to give you a full
459
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.799
rounded view, right of how this
could go. So if you want to
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00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.240
know, statistically, the average person
is videotaped eighteen to twenty five times a
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00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.079
day. If you go to Walmart, if you go to an ATM machine,
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00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.599
if you go get a snowball,
right, if you get on and
463
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.799
off the interstate exits, there's there's
you know, license plate readers, and
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00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:29.720
there's traffic cameras. You're gonna be
on camera. Well, as luck would
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00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.960
have it, at ten thirty pm
the night of the murder, they see
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00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:38.880
a yellow jeep leave the university campus. Now I know what you're thinking,
467
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.359
Oh my god, does Christopher drive
a yellow jeep? Well, yes,
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00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.680
good job, detective, he did. Okay, he had a yellow jeep.
469
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:52.000
So in November fifteenth, two thousand
and four, someone also, when
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00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:58.759
the murder occurred, use the Porco
family's secret code to disable the security system
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00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:07.960
at their home. Only the family
knew this code. So amazingly, that
472
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:13.400
code was used at two fourteen am, which was exactly within the wheelhouse of
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three hours after that yellow jeep left
campus. Now, if you're doing your
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00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.840
mouth, you're going, Kelly,
that's one thirty Okay, that's what I'm
475
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:29.760
just saying. It's within the timeframe. Okay. A couple hours later,
476
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:34.119
the telephone line at the Porco home
was cut at four fifty nine am,
477
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:42.800
and then that same yellow jeep returned
to the campus at eight thirty am,
478
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.920
three hours later. That's what we
in the biz call a freaking clue.
479
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:54.559
Something is up with the yellow gee. Now, the timeline was perfect to
480
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:59.199
have committed the murder. But here's
the other issue. Investigators are going to
481
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:04.639
face the there's thousands of yellow jeeps
in New York City or in New York.
482
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.199
You've got to prove it was Christopher's. You know, you ever bought
483
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.159
a car. Maybe I'm the only
one, but you ever bought a car,
484
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.880
and you're like, dang, look
at my car. It doesn't look
485
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.119
like anybody else's. Wow. And
then the second you buy that dang thing,
486
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.320
you see them everywhere, Like Gemothy, I want to call you out,
487
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.239
Jemothy, producer. Jemothy drives a
yellow hummer, a big old yellow
488
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.599
hummer. So any yellow hummer I
see in the next twenty mile area,
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00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.440
I'm honking and waving like a moron. Well, guess what I found out.
490
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.760
He ain't the only one. He
is not the only one with that
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00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.960
big, gass, bright yellow hummer
rolling around town. I could not believe
492
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.920
there's more than one, but there
are, because I've been waving like an
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00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.639
idiot at the wrong one. So
shout out to whoever you are. If
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00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.840
you're listening, Hey, that's me
saying hey to you every other day.
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00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.400
They have to prove that this was
Christopher's. So they zoomed in and they
496
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:59.960
found on these videos that there were
certain aspects to the vehicle that made it,
497
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.079
you know, identifiable. So let
me back up real quick. I
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00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.440
don't know if you know this,
but we all know that you can get
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00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.199
shoeprints at a scene. Right,
So, the bad guy steps in the
500
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:13.079
mud, steps in the blood,
whatever, Well, it's not that actual
501
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:20.239
shoeprint that makes the case. They
have what are called accidental markings. And
502
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.159
that's literally what they call it,
and so on the bottoms of your shoes,
503
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.679
from the way that your foot lays
down, if you know, pronate
504
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.880
your foot, or let's say you
have a rock in your shoe or you
505
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.920
chipped it or something like that,
it makes your shoe an absolute individual shoe.
506
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:37.239
After you've worn it for a while, no one's gonna have the exact
507
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:43.360
same shoe. It's like a fingerprint
basically. Well, the same concept can
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00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:47.519
be applied to a vehicle. So
while everyone may have Jimothy's yellow Hummer,
509
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:54.039
not everyone has the unspeakable a True
Crime by Kelly Jennings sticker on the back
510
00:36:54.440 --> 00:37:00.599
of their yellow Hummer, right so, or the real life of real crime
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00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:06.519
daily shameless block. Right, Not
everybody's going to have the same stickers or
512
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:08.320
the same thing hanging in the window, and so those become really important.
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00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.239
Well, what did they see when
they zoomed in? There was a mud
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00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.480
pattern splattered on the door, the
window, one of the windows had a
515
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:22.920
torn sticker, a torn sticker on
the door, and there was a political
516
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.960
sticker on the back window. So
it was extremely identifiable that this is so
517
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:34.719
and So's jeep. Now, all
of these items showed up on the images
518
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.440
that they pulled of this yellow jeep
going back and forth. It was the
519
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:43.119
jeep. Now the problem with that
becomes okay, but we could not see
520
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.239
who's driving the jeep. Now sounds
far fetched, but again you could insert
521
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.159
some doubt there. Well, maybe
his brother was setting him up. Maybe
522
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.800
not his brother, but maybe someone
else was setting him up. You know,
523
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.079
it's the mob. They could have
ties to steal the jeep while Christopher
524
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.079
was sleeping, right, and then
whatever come up with this possibility of what
525
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.800
could have happened. So what we
know is that basically, while Peter and
526
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:09.760
Joan were asleep in their bed,
they both were attacked with the axe.
527
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.599
Joan laid in the bed for you
know, a couple hours after the attack,
528
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.760
severely injured, unable to get up
amazingly, y'all. She does survive
529
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.360
the attack, the surgery and everything. They could not believe it, but
530
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:28.159
she wakes up too a few weeks
later. She did lose an eye and
531
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:35.159
part of her skull and her face
was severely disfigured in this attack. And
532
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.960
like I said, I will post
pictures on my on my Facebook if you
533
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:43.199
want to go look at them of
kind of her before and after. Now,
534
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.960
when the police were doing the investigation, they found this was not a
535
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:51.920
random axe either. This was an
axe that they were able to tell belonged
536
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.320
to the family. Don't ask me
how I in my research, I couldn't
537
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.320
really figure out if they just knew
from like photos that it had been you
538
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.159
know, used or something along those, but they were able to verify.
539
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:06.719
Hey, yeah, this is their
acts. Now. Christopher Bowdish, he
540
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.840
is a Bethlehem police detective, and
he stated that a medical person as medical
541
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.960
personnel were attending to Joan at her
home, he took a moment to ask
542
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:21.360
her whether he could identify her attacker. Now, Boutish said specifically, he
543
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.079
quoted this that when he asked Joan
if a family member had committed the crime,
544
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:30.679
she shook her head. Yes,
and he maintained that when he asked
545
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.760
her whether it had been her son
Jonathan, the naval officer, or whether
546
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.320
it had been her other son,
she said no to the naval officer,
547
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.519
but clearly knotted up and down yes
when she said when he asked about Christopher.
548
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.679
So police were like, we gotta
find Chris. We need to know
549
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.000
where he is. We see this
videotape, but where is Christopher Now?
550
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.280
They did find him at his dorm
at the University of Rochester, again two
551
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.880
hundred and thirty miles away from the
home where this attack happened. Now,
552
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.840
his story is that on the night
of fourteenth, he went to the dorm
553
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:06.400
lounge to sleep, and he awoke
the next morning, which plays right into
554
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.599
what I said a second ago.
If he claims that he was sleeping all
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night, prove otherwise. Prove otherwise. If there was no camera in his
556
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dorm or no camera where you know
that occurred, I think he's smart enough
557
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.400
to figure that out, right,
then prove it. Prove I wasn't there.
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Police theory was that he drove more
than three hours to Albany in the
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early morning hours of November fifteenth,
and that his whole plan the entire time
560
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was to attack his parents. So
they had that throughway toll right that collector
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toll, and this was right outside
of Rochester, and they see on video,
562
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.679
like I told you, the yellow
jeep wrangler with large tires passed through
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00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:52.639
the station at about ten forty five
pm on the fourteenth, and a collector
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00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:58.960
at that station recalled that she remembered
the yellow jeep because it came through at
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00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.440
what she recalled an sessive speed,
like he was going way too fast when
566
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:08.239
he came through. And then the
yellow jeep approached the toll plaza again shortly
567
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:13.320
before two am on November the fifteenth. So this worker kind of, Hey,
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00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.760
if you're gonna do bad shit,
maybe you should drive like the most
569
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.800
bland vehicle known to man Jim at
day. If you're listening to me,
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00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.280
don't commit a crime. And the
bright yellow hummer with the sticker on the
571
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.320
back, they're gonna know it was
you. Right, Maybe get a car
572
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.840
that's a little less flashy. So
four security cameras, four different ones,
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00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:36.639
at the University of Rochester recorded that
same yellow jeep wrangler, just like porkos,
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leave the campus at ten thirty and
return around eight am. And again
575
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:45.360
this was the exact period during which
the prosecutors say that the Porkos were attacked.
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00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:52.039
Now they did also talk to a
neighbor. So a neighbor even told
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00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.280
the police I saw the Porko that
yellow jeep in front of their driveway the
578
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:59.280
evening of the attack. And they
are like, are you sure, and
579
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.639
the the neighbors said, I'm positive
I saw the jeep in front of the
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00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:07.000
house. Interesting about going through the
toll booth too, even though the toll
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00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.079
pass wasn't registered as being used.
So like Chris had a you know,
582
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.679
like a fast pass hanging in his
window that he would use because he frequented
583
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.760
the highway so much. His was
never scanned the night of the murder.
584
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.760
But when the police looked at his
jeep, guess where they found it.
585
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.039
It wasn't up where it went.
It was on the floorboard of the jeep.
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00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:34.280
Coincidence, I think not so.
A few months before the murder,
587
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.519
Let's talk a little bit more about
their relationship. A few months before the
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00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.400
murder, while away on a trip
to England, so this was in March,
589
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.960
right before the murders, Chris received
an email from Joan. She was
590
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.079
pissed, y'all. She was mad
that he had been failing his classes at
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00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:51.960
the Hudson Valley Community College in Troy, New York at the time, and
592
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.800
in the message, Joan and Peter
both complained to their son, this is
593
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.320
a quote you just left and we
can't believe our eyes as I look at
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00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.039
your inner own grade report. You
know what they say, three strikes and
595
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.000
you're out. You need to explain
yourself. And the email, like the
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00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:13.360
subject line of the email was failing
grades. You did it again, So
597
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.800
it kind of showed that they were
kind of done with his poor grades and
598
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.440
they're funding this pony show apparently,
and he's failing. So in the reply
599
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.800
to that email a few days later, Chris says basically that he's going to
600
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.559
blame the community college's registrar's office,
and he said, but they're incorrect.
601
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.840
My lowest grade that I got on
anything was a bee on a physics test.
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00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.639
Don't jump to conclusions. I'm fine. So Porco earned readmission to the
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00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.199
University of Rochester, okay, right
after that. But guess what they found
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out. It was a forged transcript
from Hudson Valley Community College. It was
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forged you've seen a pattern here.
So Christopher and his parents had also been
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arguing and disagreeing about money because he
had taken out loans to pay for his
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tuition and that brand new jeep Wrangler, and his parents were not proud of
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the way that he had done his
financing method. So, following the fall
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of two thousand and three semester,
the University of Rochester officials forced Christopher to
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withdraw because of his poor grades.
When he was readmitted the following year,
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he took out that loan for thirty
one thousand dollars to pay his expenses.
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But this is the thing. He
forged his father's name as a co signer,
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so his parents didn't even know that
he was attempting to pay his fall
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two thousand and four tuition with the
loan money. Earlier in the fall,
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he lied and told his parents that
the university was covering his tuition because a
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professor had misplaced his final exam from
the previous fall semester. So, okay,
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I mean, I'm not buying that, But I guess when it's your
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son and he keeps giving you all
these explanations, maybe they were Maybe they
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were buying it. I don't know. They were just like, what is
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going on. But two weeks before
the murder, Peter Porco, the dad,
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had confronted Christopher about his dishonesty and
the email. He said, did
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you forge my signature as a co
signer? What the hell are you doing?
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You should have called me to discuss
it. I'm calling City Bank this
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morning to find out what you have
done, and I'm going to tell them
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I'm not to be on it as
a cosigner. He put his foot down,
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and the following day Peter was notified
that Christopher had also obtained a line
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of credit from City Bank to finance
the jeep Wrangler. So they didn't even
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know that he was doing all this
and taking up their credit and their money.
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And so he wrote him again and
he you know, he said,
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you've not been answering my phone calls
and weeks, and I want you to
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know that if you abuse my credit
again, I'm gonna be forced to file
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forgery affidavits in order to disclaim liability. And that applies to the City Bank
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college loan that you attempted to get
as well if you try to reactivate it
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or use my credit card to obtain
another loan. You know we're gonna have
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problems. And at the end of
the email, he said, we may
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be disappointed with you, but your
mother and I still love you and we
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care about your future. That hurt
my heart. You know, he's totally
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abusing them, lying to them,
doing the wrong things, and even though
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they're angry, they're telling him we
still love you, son. Let's just
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get back on the right track.
Now. The university comes back and says,
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we looked at our video too,
and we actually don't see him on
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the couch at the dormitory where he
claims he was sleeping. So there's another
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another little you know, slicet his
alibi. Now this is even better.
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On that ticket that tollbooth, only
twelve cars went through the tollbooth that night,
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so if he paid cash and didn't
use the swipe card, then you
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would think, oh, well,
they won't know that it was him or
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not. Well, ring it ding
ding. Thank you forensic science, because
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they took those tickets, it's all
twelve of them, and sent them to
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the lab and had them tested for
skin cells, you know, the mitochondrial
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DNA testing. And guess what,
bingo, porky boy, it was his
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DNA on that ticket. During the
course of their investigation following the murders,
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authorities determined that Chris had a history
of antisocial behavior that included burglarizing his parents
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home. In two thousand and five, police detectives had to go to California
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to retrieve a laptop computer that he
had stolen from his parents in a break
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in from two thousand and three.
He stole the laptop and then he sold
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it on eBay, and the police
contended that eight months later, Chris staged
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a burglary at his parents' home and
that time he stole a Macintosh laptop and
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a Dell laptop. A camera was
also reported missing from the burglary, but
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that was recovered in the couple's front
yard, so I guess it was dropped
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on the way out while running away. And then just one month before the
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attack, Christopher and Jonathan Porco both
had their eBay accounts frozen because they had
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shared the same del Mar address,
that same house, and what was going
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on was that Christopher had not sent
customers the items they had paid for from
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his account, so he was selling
things and then not coming through and shipping
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the items. So even further when
they investigated. They found that Christopher had
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posed as his own brother okay sole
basically his identity, and then sent emails
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to the customers falsely stating that his
brother had died and that's why he was
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unable to mail the items. Like
what a piece of shit? For lack
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of a better term, maybe that's
tacky, but what in hell? Man?
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Like, he's just no good.
This is a bad dude. But
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here's a huge twist in the case. Joan comes back to and at this
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point they go to talk to her
again and now she can't remember the attack
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and she absolutely, absolutely, as
firm that Christopher did not do this.
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She changes her mind, she changes
her story now again brain damage. You
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can't blame the woman, right,
Maybe she doesn't remember now, maybe it's
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a mother's love for her son.
I don't know, but she says he
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didn't do this. Either way,
he was charged with second degree murder for
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his father, and then he was
charged with attempted second degree murder in the
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severe wounding and disfigurement of his mother
Joan. Now, during some videotape testimony
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that was submitted to a grand jury
in two thousand and four, Joan testified
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about her family, but she would
not identify her son as the attacker.
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She was so adamant that it wasn't
Christopher. She even wrote a publication to
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the Albany Time Union where she open
letter urged the authorities to leave Christopher alone
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and to search for Peter's real killers
so that he can rest in peace,
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and that she wanted her and her
sons to be able to live safely.
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So I really tried to find that
letter. I did a lot of research.
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Could not find that publication, and
maybe it was just a bad day
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for me, but I couldn't find
it. But I found a picture of
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it that I zoomed in on if
you're looking at the screen, if you're
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watching me podcast. I took a
picture of it and then zoomed in times
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of thousand so that I could read
the letters on it. So I tried,
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but this is what it said.
On November fifteenth, two thousand and
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four, my world tragically changed.
The happy life that my beloved husband Peter
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and our sons, Jonathan and Christopher
had was lost forever. Jonathan was just
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starting his career, Christopher was early
in his college life. Peter and I
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were contemplating our retirement and planning on
being able to enjoy the rest of our
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lives with our many relatives and friends. On that horrible day, Peter and
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I were the victims of a brutal
attack. Peter died from his wounds.
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Thanks to wonderful doctors, nurses,
medical treatments and surgeries, I have survived,
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I continue to improve, and even
though I have suffered grievous injury both
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physical and emotional, I thank God
for my life. Unfortunately, the horror
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and unbearable sadness I continue to feel
as a result of the loss of Peter
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has been dramatically intensified by the trauma
that our cherished son, Christopher has been
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forced to endure. I've been told
that within hours of us being found in
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our home, the Bethlehem Police declared
Christopher to be a suspect in the murder
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of his father and the attack on
me. Incredibly, the police have told
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the media that Christopher and his father
had a difficult relationship and that therefore had
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a motive to kill him. Now
it goes on further, but I don't
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have it, and I really tried
for you. I want you to know
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that, but you kind of get
the context of how she was speaking,
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and she sounds like a lovely lady
that wants to protect and defend her family,
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maybe because of loss of memory,
maybe because you know, she doesn't
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want it to be her son,
but she stands by him and that it
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does go to trial in two thousand
and six. In June of two thousand
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and six, so the police argued
that Christopher's behavior was consistent with a diagnosis
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of psychopathy or sociopathy. And they're
two similar disorders, but they're not they're
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not this exactly the same, but
they're they're they're consistent, and they're characterized
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by pathological deception, scamming and defrauding
others, and a lack of conscious or
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remorse. And I think the police
were dead on there. This guy didn't
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care about anybody but himself. He
lied to obtain a car, he lied
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to get tuition payments, He lied
to other students to tell them that he
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came from this extremely wealthy family with
oceanfront homes. You know, he's just
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full of it, you know.
The jury began their deliberations on the morning
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of August tenth, and the same
day, very quickly, Christopher was found
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guilty of second degree murder. And
attempted murder. The judge his name was
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Judge Jeffrey Barry. He sent It's
Christopher to twenty five years to life on
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each count, totaling a minimum of
fifty years in prison. And Judge Barry
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was quoted as saying, I fear
very much what happened in the early morning
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hours of November fifteenth is something that
could happen again. So Christopher was then
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sent to downstate correctional facility and then
he was moved to another prison in New
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York and he is eligible for parole
in twenty fifty two. Interesting enough,
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Christopher lived with Joan until he went
to jail. She stood by her son.
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You know, it's just awful what
he did to his mom. They
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even made a movie about this.
It was called The Romeo Killer The Chris
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Porko Story. This was done by
Lifetime and to show you what a skis
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he is from from jail from prison, Chris tried to sue Lifetime on the
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grounds that his civil rights were being
violated because it was a non consensual living
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person's name, portrait or photo for
purpose of advertising our trade. Sorry,
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bro, no one's really excited that
you exist like that's a bit much.
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Your dad's dead, your mom is, you know, chopped to hell and
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back. Get over yourself. And
the courts did appeal that, I mean,
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did dismiss that appeal, and we're
like, yeah, no, thanks.
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So just horrible story, but I
thought it was an interesting one.
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And you know, my heart really
hurts for his mom, you know,
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and a mother's love I think has
made Joan Wilfley blind to her son's lack
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of care for her and his selfishness. And I'm not I'm not blaming her.
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I'm not victim blaming. I'm a
mama. I love my kids and
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you would never want to think that
your kids were capable of that. And
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the lies he told when it was
pain mainfully obvious that he was lying is
750
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just disgusting. I personally think he's
a complete waste of space. And he
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used his parents and they paid the
ultimate price. So I hope he's enjoying
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prison because it's where he belongs amongst
all the other lies and cheats. But
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all I can say is at the
rady lies, I bet his ass must
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get jealous of all the shit that
comes out of his mouth.
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today's episode, I've got some shout
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to tell him. Hey, so
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Thank you so much for joining?
Karen, I gotta ask you. You
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better message me. What's it like
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is calling people Karen's and you are
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I could give my opinion on.
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that said, Kelly, Hey,
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on the Casey Anthony case. I
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to hear your opinion. I'm doing
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story about my husband and Casey Anthony
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that episode, y'all gonna like it. It's funny. Miss Kristen Hughes,
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the fact that you're supporting me,
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again personal. I know you personally, and thank you so much. Mallory.
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Please tell your brother I said hello, Tell your dad and your mom
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I said hi, And share right, share, and let everybody know that
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you're on the team now. So
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was a Leslie Cochrane. That's who
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miss Leslie, hey, I'm listening, girl, and I'm going to write
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you the most bang up episode.
So you just hang tight and it's coming.
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I promise, okay, and I'm
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So today's episode is going to be
the Peter Porco case. Now, this
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is not necessarily a newer crime.
This is one that happened back in the
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gap, right um, around two
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creep factor one thousand, right,
speaking a creep factor. Hold hold the
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phone. Okay, I hope you
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you do, they got to grow
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don't care. Okay, No,
I'm recording this right after Easter. Okay,
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I have to tell you the weirdest
trap always happens in my family.
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So my um, we went out
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for Easter, and we had a
crawfish boil, and you know, she
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lives on a farm and she raises
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cows and whatnot. So we're having
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as the evening progressed, it was
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name is Brent. Hey, Brent, I love you. Cousin. She's
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so smart and beautiful and she just
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five foot nothing and just a cowgirl
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she said, hey, you want
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check out my new pig. She
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and it's a popularly pig named Pickle. And I said, oh,
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hell yeah, I want to go
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the car and we drive over.
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I'm immediately accosted by a peacock.
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of fact, guess what, I'll
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note real quick. I'm accosted by
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how are you doing? Pig all? And so I'm leaving on the
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pig and we're just having a good
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crap you not, hey, I
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She's like, Yeah, I've got
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I've got a castrating real quick.
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she said, okay, come on, so why not why don't we just
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castrate a cat on Easter? So
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my sister, her family, we
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really cool and upstairs of her it's
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neat. But upstairs she actually has
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you know, she's a vet.
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her home and an entire lab.
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go in her lab. She puts
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a family, we crowded around the
swirly chair the cat was laying on and
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we emasculated him. We pulled his
little balls off, and she's would we
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have had a castrated cat? I
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So go check out the facebook.
I'm going to post pictures. It
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was my first and last cat Fixon, but it was interesting, so if
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you want to go see it,
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was crazy. All right, here
we go, Peter Porco case, all
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right, this is gonna be out
of Delmar, New York. And like
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I said, this one is super
freaking creepy. So we have a family
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of four. Peter and Joan,
they are the parents, okay, and
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they are very good people according to
everybody's you know, description of them.
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And they had two sons named Christopher
and Jonathan. So there's this beautiful family
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of four. Dad worked as a
court clerk for an appeals judge at the
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Supreme Court of New York State,
so he's a pretty successful fellow. Joan,
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who was the mom, was a
speech pathologist, and they both made
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a really solid living and we're just
living the good life, you know.
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They had a nice home and a
beautiful family dynamic. Their sons turned out
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to be good guys. Jonathan was
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So this case is going to be
on November fifteenth, two thousand and
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four. That's when it all starts. I was a sophomore in college when
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that happened. So Peter is fifty
two years old and he does not show
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for work, and so that was
really weird. His coworkers knew that he
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was always prompt on time, he
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who would not show. It was
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so something else that was kind of
strange about it was that he was really
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near retirement. So this fella had
put the time in. He was ready
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to like, you know, kick
up his feet and you know, drink
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of my tie and go to the
beach and do whatever it is that retired
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people do. I wouldn't know about
that. I'm working my ass off right
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now. But in due time.
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are, they sent a court officer
to the home to say, hey,
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go check on Peter. It's weird
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Now. When the officer arrived at
the home, there was a key in
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the door lock, but the door
was kind of a jar. It was
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pushed open, and he could see
that there were drops of blood on the
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doorstep. So rut Row right,
he knew something was wrong. So he
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steps inside and he sees Peter Porco's
body and this guy has been bludgeoned to
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death. This is not like someone
got hit over the head and fell and
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was killed. He literally described it
as a blood bath. Blood was everywhere
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everywhere. I have crime scene photos
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when this drops. But everywhere y'all. I mean blood all around on the
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walls, all over the floor,
countertop, sinks everywhere, and so there's
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just literal shock and horror by this
officer that responded to the scene. So
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he calls responders, right, he
calls number one help. Oh my god,
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he's dead. There's blood everywhere.
When they get there, they go
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running upstairs because there's white you know, lives with them, and they find
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Joan in the bed, bludgeoned like, cannot make out her face. She
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is beat so badly. Now,
amazingly, they think she's dead because they
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can't find her face, but she's
alive. They take her pulse and she
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is alive. So they are dumbfounded
by this. How could she possibly be
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alive? Well, based on the
wounds that were both of them had had
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received, they determined that they had
been attacked with a large blade, And
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by large blade, I mean a
three foot axe, an axe laying in
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the bed next to her, an
axe literally axe murderer. You know what
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I'm saying, Holy crap, Do
you know what it takes to swing an
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axe? And I know right now
some burly man's like not much. Okay,
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Well take it down to you know, five ft four healthy woman.
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Okay, swinging an axe once or
twice as hard as you can, you
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know, and then let's up that
to like thirty times. Wow, the
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effort put forward to hack these people
up. The wounds were devastating. Jon's
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wounds obviously were extensive, but she
had them on her body, her arms,
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and a lot of them to her
face. Her brain was literally exposed.
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The responders could see her brain while
they were staring at her, going
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how was she even alive? So
they jumped into save her. But like
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I said, the extension was boom
jim. So the responders jump in to
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save her. But like I said, the damage was very extensive. And
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when the responders literally went to go
put that airway mask on her, they
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couldn't find her airway. They couldn't
tell. It was like mints to meet,
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They couldn't tell. So they just
did their best to try to put
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an airway over her and keep her
alive. They rushed her to the hospital
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and they found that she was st
at least three times with the large blade
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directly to the face. Now she
was barely clinging to life, but she
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was still alive all right. So
back at the house, the investigators could
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not figure out why Peter was downstairs, but blood was everywhere, Like I
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told you, I mean in the
bathroom, in the kitchen, everywhere.
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And Jones up in the bed with
her brain hanging out. How could this
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blood be everywhere? Are you ready
for this? Hold onto your butt,
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crack. This is what nightmares are
made of. Okay, they should make
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a They should make a horror movie
about this. Peter had sustained sixteen sixteen
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major axe wounds to his face and
head, including a penetration to his brain.
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He was hurt so badly part of
his jaw fell off during the attack.
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Can you fathom what I'm telling you
here? And please don't think that
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I'm just trying to be grandiose about
how gross this is. No understand what
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these people went through? Oh my
god. Okay, Now, despite beating
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mortally wounded, with his brain out
and his jaw off, he woke up
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sometime after the original attack. If
you want to know the testament to how
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amazing the body is, this is
probably one of them. He woke up.
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Not only did he wake up,
but he managed to get out of
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bed and go about his daily routine
before he finally collapsed. And died,
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y'all like a zombie. His body
got up and he went about his morning
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routine. So what exactly do I
mean by he went about his morning routine?
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Here are the things that he did. He spent some time in the
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bathroom at the sink, and they
know because by the crime scene photos which
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I will post trigger warning. Okay, it's court true crime show. If
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you are hey, if you're easily
offended, then I'm not your girl,
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right, don't forget that, but
I'm gonna post those pictures for you.
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But he was at the bathroom sink, but there's just blood pouring out of
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him. He then loaded the dishwasher. I got to insert something real quick.
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This is a shout out to my
teenage daughter. Honey. If Peter
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Porco can load the dishwasher with his
brain exposed and his jaw falling off,
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baby girl, you can do it
too. I have faith in you.
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Quit tell me your life's hard hashtag
be like Peter. The dude was still
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you know, joan shout out to
you girl. This is kind of morbid,
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but you must have had him trained
well, because that man went and
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straight up loaded the dishwasher before he
died and kudos to you man, all
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right, He loaded the dishwasher,
he packed his lunch, He packed his
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lunch, he made food, He
even wrote a check to someone. Think
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that through. This man is walking
through the house on autopilot, doing these
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things, all the while mortally wounded
and dying. Even creepier, at one
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point, he went outside to get
his morning newspaper like he did every day,
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and while bleeding to death, accidentally
locked himself out. He even got
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his spare key that was hidden in
a flower pot on the porch and let
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himself back in, and that is
where he finally collapsed and died on the
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front door. Stoop there. Can
you imagine what that scene looked like?
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So, I mean, how was
my question? I don't know about you,
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but how like, how can you
if I get a paper cut?
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I am like devastated For the next
thirty minutes, that was hurt. This
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dude's take an axe, sixteen acts
strikes to the face and head, and
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he's able to do all of those
things. So I did a little bit
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more research on this. So how
in the hell was he able to complete
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all of this? Well, based
on the coroner's report, while most of
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Peter's brain was nearly destroyed by these
acts wounds. The top portion of the
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brain is known as the neocortex,
and in the neocortex that's where they're going
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to house things like thought and language
and reasoning. Right, well, that
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was destroyed. But his paleocortex,
which is underneath that level, that's going
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to house things like your primal instincts
and your second nature habits, including his
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routine, and that was still intact. That's why he didn't know what was
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going on. But these autopilot things
that he did every day, His body
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just went into that routine and started
doing it until he finally just bled out.
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He literally had no concept of the
fact that he was mortally wounded during
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all of this. That's in now
when the investigators are looking through the home
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trying to figure out motive here.
Everything was there and I'm not going to
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say these people were filthy rich,
but they had money, they had nice
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things. So the fact that nothing
was taken told investigators from the get go,
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look, robbery was clearly not a
motive. Okay, if there was
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money, there was things that someone
could have taken, they didn't do that.
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But the massive number of wounds to
Peter versus Joan did tell investigator something
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that would mean that, hey,
he was the intended target of the attack.
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I would be willing to bet you
know, Jane's wounds were simply just
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to you know, make sure that
she did not interfere. She got three,
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he got sixteen. He was the
main target. So back at the
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hospital, amazingly, Joan is still
alive, but they're going to rush her
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back for emergency surgery to try to
save her life. And so right before
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they wheel her back, and astute
detective said, you know, let me
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let me ask her a few questions. I need to ask her a few
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things while she's being rolled back for
surgery. They didn't even know she would
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survive, right, So these are
the things he wanted to ask before she
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went back. Because she could still
shake her head yes or no. She
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didn't have a face, but she
could move her face up and down yes
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and no left right, you know, up down, left, right,
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So he asked these specific questions.
He asked four of them. Can you
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hear me? She clearly nodded her
head up and down in the yes fashion.
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He then said, do you know
who attacked you? She shook her
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head up and down in the yes
motion. Now these next two questions,
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you might be like, why would
he as that? Okay, come on,
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guys, you've been listening to true
crime a long time. I'm not
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your first radio here. Who is
most likely to hurt you? Who?
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It's going to be people that are
close to you and people that you have
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pissed off in some fashion, right, because who cares enough to kill somebody
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unless you're tight with them and they
they're gonna have something to gain out of
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it, whether it's just vengeance or
money or whatever it could be. So
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Peter's dead husband's out of the picture. Who's left the two sons? So
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he asks her specifically, did your
oldest son Jonathan do this? She shook
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her head no, very clearly.
The last question, did Christopher do this
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to you? She shook her head
yes. Holy cow. She implicates her
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own son as her attempted killer and
the murderer of her husband. So let's
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talk about Chris though, Okay,
so what do we what do we know
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about Christopher? All Right? He
was twenty one years old and he was
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a college student at the University of
Rochester, which was a three hour drive
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away from their home. Now,
people who were asked did say that he
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was a bit of a brat,
all right, and that during this year
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of two thousand four he had been
having troubles and his parents kind of had
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enough of it and they had called
him out on it, all right,
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But that doesn't make you a murderer. That makes you a son whose parents
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are disappointed in how you're behaving their
oldest son, Jonathan Porco, he was
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twenty three years old at the time. Now, this guy was a lieutenant
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on a nuclear submarine at the time, and they verified he was hundreds of
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miles away on a submarine. He
couldn't have done this. It's not even
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plausible. And people knew saw him
on the you know, on the submarine.
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Now, Christopher's alibi was that I
was at college, I was three
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hours away, I'm on camera.
I didn't do it. You know,
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There's no way. Well that's plausible, right. So something you have to
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think about, okay, is as
an investigator, not only are you trying
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to prove who did this, but
you're going to have to also sit back
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and think, Okay, everything that
I'm trying to prove, can it be
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either disproven in court or could it
be manipulated in court? Somehow to where
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there would be like this reasonable doubt
that a jury may not believe or understand
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what I'm you know, proposing as
fact or what happened. So I wanted
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to point this out to you while
we're going through the case. You know,
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let's think about court for a second. Brain damage could be argued as
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a cause for a for a false
accusation, right, So think about it.
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You're in court, you're a jury
member, and you're listening to this
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case, and the you know,
the investigators are saying, yes, she
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had massive head trauma, brain trauma. They were trying to save her life.
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She didn't even have a face,
but she was able to tell us
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that her son did this and shake
her head. Yes. All the defense
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has to do is come back and
repeat the exact same thing, y'all.
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She had massive brain trauma. She
didn't even have a face, She wasn't
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able to think clearly, she was
under extrem dress and the brain damage made
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it to where maybe her son,
Christopher is the only person she could think
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of. Maybe she was shaking her
head, yes, Christopher is my son.
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How can you as a jury sit
here and believe because she shook her
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head yes, with her brain exposed
that that is perfection and honesty and truth
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when she had severe brain damage.
You get my point. So while she's
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the one who said he did it, and it's his mother, I don't
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know, they might have put that
reasonable doubt in there. So they explored
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some other theories. Okay, because
motive matters when you're trying to solve a
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case. If you can't prove motive, or you can't at least allude to
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a reason of why someone would do
it, it makes it less plausible.
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Right Even as parents we look at
our kids and go, why would you
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do that? We want to know
why. There's got to be a motive
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behind it. All right, Well, here are some of the things that
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they investigated. This guy kind of
deep, Okay, Peter Poor Remember he
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works at the at the courthouse.
He had received a death threat right before
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his actual death from a disgruntled father
who had lost custody of his kids,
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and that man, to God and
anyone else who would listen, vowed revenge.
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He was pissed. Okay, that
man told everybody with no holds bar
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He told everybody, I'm going to
get a gun and I'm gonna go kill
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that judge, and I'm gonna kill
Peter Porco. He said it to everybody.
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He admitted he said it. But
when they did some further investigation,
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they were able to eliminate him because
the alibi was solid. It was it
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was absolute solid. Now, I
don't know about you, but when I
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used to hear the word alibi,
alibi to me used to mean when I
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was younger, like the lie you
chose to explain where you were what you
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were doing. Alibi is not a
lie. Alibi is just simply the explanation
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or the story of where you say
you were. So don't confuse the two.
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Alibi is not a lie. Alibi
is the explanation. So his alibi
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panned out. They were able to
verify one hundred percent that he could not
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have been the one who did it. Now about that time, amazingly,
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the supposed killer writes a letter to
the newspaper. He's going to be published,
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okay, And this is what he
says in that letter, And I
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quote Peter Porko wasn't even a challenge. Once I got inside, I repeatedly
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hit him in the head and neck
with a small axe I brought with me.
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I ignored all of his pleading screams, also, I beat Joan Porko,
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but unfortunately she survived all right.
So he took credit for what had
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happened, and he gave details that
the killer would know. But the writer
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who wrote the letter also took credit
for a local murderer, another one that
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had just happened, and he ended
that letter with, if you want to
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find me, you might want to
stop going after easy suspects. Show me
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the respect I deserve. Catch me
if you can. What a what a
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pompous person to write a letter to
the media, right, catch me if
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you can. So they did everything
they're supposed to do. They checked for
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fingerprints on the letter and DNA and
anything they could, but it was an
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absolute dead end. They didn't get
anything from that letter. So we've got
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a guy who says he wants to
kill them that doesn't pan out. They've
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got the supposed killer writing a letter
and explaining what happened, but no DNA
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to follow up one. Now even
crazier. Okay, where are my mob
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people at? Are y'all out there? The people who liked the mob,
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or maybe don't like the mob but
are intrigued by the mob. Right,
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I've always thought the mob was cool, and I know I'm not supposed to
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say that because the mob isn't necessarily
good. Guys become a one who doesn't
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love a good mob hit story in
the movies, come one, all right,
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check this out. Peter Porco was
related to organized crime member Frankie Porco.
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Now, Frankie has known as Frankie
quote unquote the Fireman Porko. He
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was his great uncle and at the
time, Peter Porko was serving time in
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federal prison for loan sharking. All
right, tell me that didn't have a
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little mobesque, you know feel to
it. Now? What was the rumor
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was that Uncle Porco Frankie was going
to be turning state's evidence and would testify
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in another case for time off of
his sentence. Okay. Now, even
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more interesting to this was that it
was playing into the fact that the fireman's
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axe was found next to the body
of Joan Porco and it was an absolute
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look of a mark of a marking
of a mob hit. Right, I'm
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mad, I'm the fireman made I
put out a hit on my nephew,
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and then we're gonna leave my fireman
axe kind of as my signature. You
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know on scene, but here was
the kicker on that. It didn't make
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sense because Frankie was actually in prison
for not being a snitch. He was
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offered a deal before he was sent
to prison for his loan sharking, and
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he turned it down. He wouldn't
take it. He's a freaking true,
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true time mobster. He wouldn't want
to take the deal, right, and
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he wouldn't. He manned up and
did his time so that it just wasn't
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It wasn't panning out. But I
did go a little further into Frankie Porko,
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and I spent way too much time. I'm not proud of myself,
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but I went down a rabbit hole
of like mobsters and racketeering and murdering the
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Bronx and even found a story where
a horse head like a horse, like
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hey, like a real horse.
His head was found in a councilwoman's pool.
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She went outside and the horse's head
was in the pool. Like let's
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just say, like shit too deep
for me to add to this episode,
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but it was a legitimate story for
them to go like check and dive into
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lot have mercy. Okay, but
again it just didn't pan out. That
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was some other mob shit going on
at that time. So, like I
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said, long story short, it
was not considered a mob hit after they
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did, you know, all their
research on it, even though there were
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a few mumbles of the fact that
Peter Porco was supposed to be roughed up
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and assaulted over a dealing that he
had over some video poker machines with his
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uncle, so that kind of like, you know, that really sparked my
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interests. But again it just it
didn't pan out when it was all said
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and done. They wanted to rough
him up, Okay, So there was
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that mob tie ish stuff, but
it just didn't They could not find any
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links to that. But again,
if I was a defense attorney, I
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Shelly would be bringing up the mob, wouldn't you. The mob did it.
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So the police say, well,
maybe we should take a little bit
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more of a reasonable step. Right
now, let's look at the sun who
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she did identify before she went back
for surgery as her attempted killer. So
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they did what you would anyone would
do, is they went to go look
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at security cameras. Right if he
was in the college, and he was
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where he says he was, he
was supposed to be, which is what
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he said he was in his dorm, then let's go check the cameras.
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The cameras don't lie, and during
the time of the murder they got the
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video from the dorm, but they
also said, well, we're going to
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look at the cameras from not only
the security footage, but we're gonna look
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at major highways and all toll booths
between the school and the Porco home.
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That's a genius, right, because
any defense attorney could say, well,
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you know, if you saw his
car, he wasn't driving it, or
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you know, they're always going to
bring up some type of explanation. And
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by the way, I'm I'm not
down and being bad on the defense attorne.
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That's your job, right, I'm
just trying to give you a full
459
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.799
rounded view, right of how this
could go. So if you want to
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00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.240
know, statistically, the average person
is videotaped eighteen to twenty five times a
461
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.079
day. If you go to Walmart, if you go to an ATM machine,
462
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.599
if you go get a snowball,
right, if you get on and
463
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.799
off the interstate exits, there's there's
you know, license plate readers, and
464
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:29.720
there's traffic cameras. You're gonna be
on camera. Well, as luck would
465
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.960
have it, at ten thirty pm
the night of the murder, they see
466
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:38.880
a yellow jeep leave the university campus. Now I know what you're thinking,
467
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.359
Oh my god, does Christopher drive
a yellow jeep? Well, yes,
468
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.680
good job, detective, he did. Okay, he had a yellow jeep.
469
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:52.000
So in November fifteenth, two thousand
and four, someone also, when
470
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:58.759
the murder occurred, use the Porco
family's secret code to disable the security system
471
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:07.960
at their home. Only the family
knew this code. So amazingly, that
472
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:13.400
code was used at two fourteen am, which was exactly within the wheelhouse of
473
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:20.440
three hours after that yellow jeep left
campus. Now, if you're doing your
474
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.840
mouth, you're going, Kelly,
that's one thirty Okay, that's what I'm
475
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:29.760
just saying. It's within the timeframe. Okay. A couple hours later,
476
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:34.119
the telephone line at the Porco home
was cut at four fifty nine am,
477
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:42.800
and then that same yellow jeep returned
to the campus at eight thirty am,
478
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.920
three hours later. That's what we
in the biz call a freaking clue.
479
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:54.559
Something is up with the yellow gee. Now, the timeline was perfect to
480
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:59.199
have committed the murder. But here's
the other issue. Investigators are going to
481
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:04.639
face the there's thousands of yellow jeeps
in New York City or in New York.
482
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You've got to prove it was Christopher's. You know, you ever bought
483
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.159
a car. Maybe I'm the only
one, but you ever bought a car,
484
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.880
and you're like, dang, look
at my car. It doesn't look
485
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.119
like anybody else's. Wow. And
then the second you buy that dang thing,
486
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.320
you see them everywhere, Like Gemothy, I want to call you out,
487
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.239
Jemothy, producer. Jemothy drives a
yellow hummer, a big old yellow
488
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.599
hummer. So any yellow hummer I
see in the next twenty mile area,
489
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.440
I'm honking and waving like a moron. Well, guess what I found out.
490
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.760
He ain't the only one. He
is not the only one with that
491
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.960
big, gass, bright yellow hummer
rolling around town. I could not believe
492
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.920
there's more than one, but there
are, because I've been waving like an
493
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.639
idiot at the wrong one. So
shout out to whoever you are. If
494
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.840
you're listening, Hey, that's me
saying hey to you every other day.
495
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.400
They have to prove that this was
Christopher's. So they zoomed in and they
496
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:59.960
found on these videos that there were
certain aspects to the vehicle that made it,
497
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.079
you know, identifiable. So let
me back up real quick. I
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00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.440
don't know if you know this,
but we all know that you can get
499
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.199
shoeprints at a scene. Right,
So, the bad guy steps in the
500
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:13.079
mud, steps in the blood,
whatever, Well, it's not that actual
501
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:20.239
shoeprint that makes the case. They
have what are called accidental markings. And
502
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.159
that's literally what they call it,
and so on the bottoms of your shoes,
503
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.679
from the way that your foot lays
down, if you know, pronate
504
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.880
your foot, or let's say you
have a rock in your shoe or you
505
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.920
chipped it or something like that,
it makes your shoe an absolute individual shoe.
506
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:37.239
After you've worn it for a while, no one's gonna have the exact
507
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:43.360
same shoe. It's like a fingerprint
basically. Well, the same concept can
508
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:47.519
be applied to a vehicle. So
while everyone may have Jimothy's yellow Hummer,
509
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:54.039
not everyone has the unspeakable a True
Crime by Kelly Jennings sticker on the back
510
00:36:54.440 --> 00:37:00.599
of their yellow Hummer, right so, or the real life of real crime
511
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:06.519
daily shameless block. Right, Not
everybody's going to have the same stickers or
512
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:08.320
the same thing hanging in the window, and so those become really important.
513
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.239
Well, what did they see when
they zoomed in? There was a mud
514
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.480
pattern splattered on the door, the
window, one of the windows had a
515
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:22.920
torn sticker, a torn sticker on
the door, and there was a political
516
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.960
sticker on the back window. So
it was extremely identifiable that this is so
517
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:34.719
and So's jeep. Now, all
of these items showed up on the images
518
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.440
that they pulled of this yellow jeep
going back and forth. It was the
519
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:43.119
jeep. Now the problem with that
becomes okay, but we could not see
520
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.239
who's driving the jeep. Now sounds
far fetched, but again you could insert
521
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.159
some doubt there. Well, maybe
his brother was setting him up. Maybe
522
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.800
not his brother, but maybe someone
else was setting him up. You know,
523
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.079
it's the mob. They could have
ties to steal the jeep while Christopher
524
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.079
was sleeping, right, and then
whatever come up with this possibility of what
525
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.800
could have happened. So what we
know is that basically, while Peter and
526
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:09.760
Joan were asleep in their bed,
they both were attacked with the axe.
527
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.599
Joan laid in the bed for you
know, a couple hours after the attack,
528
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.760
severely injured, unable to get up
amazingly, y'all. She does survive
529
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.360
the attack, the surgery and everything. They could not believe it, but
530
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:28.159
she wakes up too a few weeks
later. She did lose an eye and
531
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:35.159
part of her skull and her face
was severely disfigured in this attack. And
532
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.960
like I said, I will post
pictures on my on my Facebook if you
533
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:43.199
want to go look at them of
kind of her before and after. Now,
534
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.960
when the police were doing the investigation, they found this was not a
535
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:51.920
random axe either. This was an
axe that they were able to tell belonged
536
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.320
to the family. Don't ask me
how I in my research, I couldn't
537
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.320
really figure out if they just knew
from like photos that it had been you
538
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.159
know, used or something along those, but they were able to verify.
539
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:06.719
Hey, yeah, this is their
acts. Now. Christopher Bowdish, he
540
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.840
is a Bethlehem police detective, and
he stated that a medical person as medical
541
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.960
personnel were attending to Joan at her
home, he took a moment to ask
542
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:21.360
her whether he could identify her attacker. Now, Boutish said specifically, he
543
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.079
quoted this that when he asked Joan
if a family member had committed the crime,
544
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:30.679
she shook her head. Yes,
and he maintained that when he asked
545
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.760
her whether it had been her son
Jonathan, the naval officer, or whether
546
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.320
it had been her other son,
she said no to the naval officer,
547
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.519
but clearly knotted up and down yes
when she said when he asked about Christopher.
548
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.679
So police were like, we gotta
find Chris. We need to know
549
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.000
where he is. We see this
videotape, but where is Christopher Now?
550
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.280
They did find him at his dorm
at the University of Rochester, again two
551
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.880
hundred and thirty miles away from the
home where this attack happened. Now,
552
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.840
his story is that on the night
of fourteenth, he went to the dorm
553
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:06.400
lounge to sleep, and he awoke
the next morning, which plays right into
554
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.599
what I said a second ago.
If he claims that he was sleeping all
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00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:15.400
night, prove otherwise. Prove otherwise. If there was no camera in his
556
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.920
dorm or no camera where you know
that occurred, I think he's smart enough
557
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.400
to figure that out, right,
then prove it. Prove I wasn't there.
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00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.880
Police theory was that he drove more
than three hours to Albany in the
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early morning hours of November fifteenth,
and that his whole plan the entire time
560
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:39.320
was to attack his parents. So
they had that throughway toll right that collector
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00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:44.760
toll, and this was right outside
of Rochester, and they see on video,
562
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.679
like I told you, the yellow
jeep wrangler with large tires passed through
563
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:52.639
the station at about ten forty five
pm on the fourteenth, and a collector
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00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:58.960
at that station recalled that she remembered
the yellow jeep because it came through at
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00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.440
what she recalled an sessive speed,
like he was going way too fast when
566
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:08.239
he came through. And then the
yellow jeep approached the toll plaza again shortly
567
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:13.320
before two am on November the fifteenth. So this worker kind of, Hey,
568
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.760
if you're gonna do bad shit,
maybe you should drive like the most
569
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.800
bland vehicle known to man Jim at
day. If you're listening to me,
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00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.280
don't commit a crime. And the
bright yellow hummer with the sticker on the
571
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.320
back, they're gonna know it was
you. Right, Maybe get a car
572
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.840
that's a little less flashy. So
four security cameras, four different ones,
573
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:36.639
at the University of Rochester recorded that
same yellow jeep wrangler, just like porkos,
574
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.039
leave the campus at ten thirty and
return around eight am. And again
575
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:45.360
this was the exact period during which
the prosecutors say that the Porkos were attacked.
576
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:52.039
Now they did also talk to a
neighbor. So a neighbor even told
577
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.280
the police I saw the Porko that
yellow jeep in front of their driveway the
578
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:59.280
evening of the attack. And they
are like, are you sure, and
579
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.639
the the neighbors said, I'm positive
I saw the jeep in front of the
580
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:07.000
house. Interesting about going through the
toll booth too, even though the toll
581
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.079
pass wasn't registered as being used.
So like Chris had a you know,
582
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.679
like a fast pass hanging in his
window that he would use because he frequented
583
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.760
the highway so much. His was
never scanned the night of the murder.
584
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.760
But when the police looked at his
jeep, guess where they found it.
585
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.039
It wasn't up where it went.
It was on the floorboard of the jeep.
586
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:34.280
Coincidence, I think not so.
A few months before the murder,
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00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.519
Let's talk a little bit more about
their relationship. A few months before the
588
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.400
murder, while away on a trip
to England, so this was in March,
589
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.960
right before the murders, Chris received
an email from Joan. She was
590
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.079
pissed, y'all. She was mad
that he had been failing his classes at
591
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:51.960
the Hudson Valley Community College in Troy, New York at the time, and
592
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.800
in the message, Joan and Peter
both complained to their son, this is
593
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.320
a quote you just left and we
can't believe our eyes as I look at
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00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.039
your inner own grade report. You
know what they say, three strikes and
595
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.000
you're out. You need to explain
yourself. And the email, like the
596
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:13.360
subject line of the email was failing
grades. You did it again, So
597
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.800
it kind of showed that they were
kind of done with his poor grades and
598
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.440
they're funding this pony show apparently,
and he's failing. So in the reply
599
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.800
to that email a few days later, Chris says basically that he's going to
600
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.559
blame the community college's registrar's office,
and he said, but they're incorrect.
601
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.840
My lowest grade that I got on
anything was a bee on a physics test.
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00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.639
Don't jump to conclusions. I'm fine. So Porco earned readmission to the
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00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.199
University of Rochester, okay, right
after that. But guess what they found
604
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:51.599
out. It was a forged transcript
from Hudson Valley Community College. It was
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00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:57.920
forged you've seen a pattern here.
So Christopher and his parents had also been
606
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.920
arguing and disagreeing about money because he
had taken out loans to pay for his
607
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:07.960
tuition and that brand new jeep Wrangler, and his parents were not proud of
608
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.559
the way that he had done his
financing method. So, following the fall
609
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:17.239
of two thousand and three semester,
the University of Rochester officials forced Christopher to
610
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.800
withdraw because of his poor grades.
When he was readmitted the following year,
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00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.360
he took out that loan for thirty
one thousand dollars to pay his expenses.
612
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:30.119
But this is the thing. He
forged his father's name as a co signer,
613
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.599
so his parents didn't even know that
he was attempting to pay his fall
614
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:39.920
two thousand and four tuition with the
loan money. Earlier in the fall,
615
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.960
he lied and told his parents that
the university was covering his tuition because a
616
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:51.079
professor had misplaced his final exam from
the previous fall semester. So, okay,
617
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.639
I mean, I'm not buying that, But I guess when it's your
618
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:58.800
son and he keeps giving you all
these explanations, maybe they were Maybe they
619
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.800
were buying it. I don't know. They were just like, what is
620
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:05.519
going on. But two weeks before
the murder, Peter Porco, the dad,
621
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:09.480
had confronted Christopher about his dishonesty and
the email. He said, did
622
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.719
you forge my signature as a co
signer? What the hell are you doing?
623
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.400
You should have called me to discuss
it. I'm calling City Bank this
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00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:20.440
morning to find out what you have
done, and I'm going to tell them
625
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.840
I'm not to be on it as
a cosigner. He put his foot down,
626
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.639
and the following day Peter was notified
that Christopher had also obtained a line
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00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:32.679
of credit from City Bank to finance
the jeep Wrangler. So they didn't even
628
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.960
know that he was doing all this
and taking up their credit and their money.
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00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.719
And so he wrote him again and
he you know, he said,
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00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.079
you've not been answering my phone calls
and weeks, and I want you to
631
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:49.639
know that if you abuse my credit
again, I'm gonna be forced to file
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00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.880
forgery affidavits in order to disclaim liability. And that applies to the City Bank
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00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:59.360
college loan that you attempted to get
as well if you try to reactivate it
634
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.480
or use my credit card to obtain
another loan. You know we're gonna have
635
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:06.559
problems. And at the end of
the email, he said, we may
636
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.679
be disappointed with you, but your
mother and I still love you and we
637
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:15.440
care about your future. That hurt
my heart. You know, he's totally
638
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.800
abusing them, lying to them,
doing the wrong things, and even though
639
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:21.880
they're angry, they're telling him we
still love you, son. Let's just
640
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:27.639
get back on the right track.
Now. The university comes back and says,
641
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.119
we looked at our video too,
and we actually don't see him on
642
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.800
the couch at the dormitory where he
claims he was sleeping. So there's another
643
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:42.119
another little you know, slicet his
alibi. Now this is even better.
644
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:46.199
On that ticket that tollbooth, only
twelve cars went through the tollbooth that night,
645
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:52.519
so if he paid cash and didn't
use the swipe card, then you
646
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.639
would think, oh, well,
they won't know that it was him or
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00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.000
not. Well, ring it ding
ding. Thank you forensic science, because
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00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:00.960
they took those tickets, it's all
twelve of them, and sent them to
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00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:05.880
the lab and had them tested for
skin cells, you know, the mitochondrial
650
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.559
DNA testing. And guess what,
bingo, porky boy, it was his
651
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:15.480
DNA on that ticket. During the
course of their investigation following the murders,
652
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:22.519
authorities determined that Chris had a history
of antisocial behavior that included burglarizing his parents
653
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:27.559
home. In two thousand and five, police detectives had to go to California
654
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.159
to retrieve a laptop computer that he
had stolen from his parents in a break
655
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:35.320
in from two thousand and three.
He stole the laptop and then he sold
656
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:40.079
it on eBay, and the police
contended that eight months later, Chris staged
657
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.599
a burglary at his parents' home and
that time he stole a Macintosh laptop and
658
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.800
a Dell laptop. A camera was
also reported missing from the burglary, but
659
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.840
that was recovered in the couple's front
yard, so I guess it was dropped
660
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:59.559
on the way out while running away. And then just one month before the
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attack, Christopher and Jonathan Porco both
had their eBay accounts frozen because they had
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shared the same del Mar address,
that same house, and what was going
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on was that Christopher had not sent
customers the items they had paid for from
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his account, so he was selling
things and then not coming through and shipping
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the items. So even further when
they investigated. They found that Christopher had
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posed as his own brother okay sole
basically his identity, and then sent emails
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to the customers falsely stating that his
brother had died and that's why he was
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unable to mail the items. Like
what a piece of shit? For lack
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of a better term, maybe that's
tacky, but what in hell? Man?
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Like, he's just no good.
This is a bad dude. But
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here's a huge twist in the case. Joan comes back to and at this
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point they go to talk to her
again and now she can't remember the attack
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and she absolutely, absolutely, as
firm that Christopher did not do this.
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She changes her mind, she changes
her story now again brain damage. You
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can't blame the woman, right,
Maybe she doesn't remember now, maybe it's
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a mother's love for her son.
I don't know, but she says he
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didn't do this. Either way,
he was charged with second degree murder for
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his father, and then he was
charged with attempted second degree murder in the
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severe wounding and disfigurement of his mother
Joan. Now, during some videotape testimony
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that was submitted to a grand jury
in two thousand and four, Joan testified
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about her family, but she would
not identify her son as the attacker.
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She was so adamant that it wasn't
Christopher. She even wrote a publication to
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the Albany Time Union where she open
letter urged the authorities to leave Christopher alone
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and to search for Peter's real killers
so that he can rest in peace,
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and that she wanted her and her
sons to be able to live safely.
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So I really tried to find that
letter. I did a lot of research.
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Could not find that publication, and
maybe it was just a bad day
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for me, but I couldn't find
it. But I found a picture of
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it that I zoomed in on if
you're looking at the screen, if you're
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watching me podcast. I took a
picture of it and then zoomed in times
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of thousand so that I could read
the letters on it. So I tried,
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but this is what it said.
On November fifteenth, two thousand and
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four, my world tragically changed.
The happy life that my beloved husband Peter
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and our sons, Jonathan and Christopher
had was lost forever. Jonathan was just
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starting his career, Christopher was early
in his college life. Peter and I
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were contemplating our retirement and planning on
being able to enjoy the rest of our
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lives with our many relatives and friends. On that horrible day, Peter and
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I were the victims of a brutal
attack. Peter died from his wounds.
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Thanks to wonderful doctors, nurses,
medical treatments and surgeries, I have survived,
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I continue to improve, and even
though I have suffered grievous injury both
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physical and emotional, I thank God
for my life. Unfortunately, the horror
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and unbearable sadness I continue to feel
as a result of the loss of Peter
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has been dramatically intensified by the trauma
that our cherished son, Christopher has been
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forced to endure. I've been told
that within hours of us being found in
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our home, the Bethlehem Police declared
Christopher to be a suspect in the murder
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of his father and the attack on
me. Incredibly, the police have told
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the media that Christopher and his father
had a difficult relationship and that therefore had
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a motive to kill him. Now
it goes on further, but I don't
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have it, and I really tried
for you. I want you to know
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that, but you kind of get
the context of how she was speaking,
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and she sounds like a lovely lady
that wants to protect and defend her family,
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maybe because of loss of memory,
maybe because you know, she doesn't
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want it to be her son,
but she stands by him and that it
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does go to trial in two thousand
and six. In June of two thousand
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and six, so the police argued
that Christopher's behavior was consistent with a diagnosis
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of psychopathy or sociopathy. And they're
two similar disorders, but they're not they're
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not this exactly the same, but
they're they're they're consistent, and they're characterized
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by pathological deception, scamming and defrauding
others, and a lack of conscious or
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remorse. And I think the police
were dead on there. This guy didn't
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care about anybody but himself. He
lied to obtain a car, he lied
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to get tuition payments, He lied
to other students to tell them that he
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came from this extremely wealthy family with
oceanfront homes. You know, he's just
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full of it, you know.
The jury began their deliberations on the morning
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of August tenth, and the same
day, very quickly, Christopher was found
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guilty of second degree murder. And
attempted murder. The judge his name was
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Judge Jeffrey Barry. He sent It's
Christopher to twenty five years to life on
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each count, totaling a minimum of
fifty years in prison. And Judge Barry
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was quoted as saying, I fear
very much what happened in the early morning
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hours of November fifteenth is something that
could happen again. So Christopher was then
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sent to downstate correctional facility and then
he was moved to another prison in New
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York and he is eligible for parole
in twenty fifty two. Interesting enough,
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Christopher lived with Joan until he went
to jail. She stood by her son.
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You know, it's just awful what
he did to his mom. They
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even made a movie about this.
It was called The Romeo Killer The Chris
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Porko Story. This was done by
Lifetime and to show you what a skis
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he is from from jail from prison, Chris tried to sue Lifetime on the
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grounds that his civil rights were being
violated because it was a non consensual living
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person's name, portrait or photo for
purpose of advertising our trade. Sorry,
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bro, no one's really excited that
you exist like that's a bit much.
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Your dad's dead, your mom is, you know, chopped to hell and
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back. Get over yourself. And
the courts did appeal that, I mean,
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did dismiss that appeal, and we're
like, yeah, no, thanks.
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So just horrible story, but I
thought it was an interesting one.
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And you know, my heart really
hurts for his mom, you know,
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and a mother's love I think has
made Joan Wilfley blind to her son's lack
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of care for her and his selfishness. And I'm not I'm not blaming her.
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I'm not victim blaming. I'm a
mama. I love my kids and
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you would never want to think that
your kids were capable of that. And
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the lies he told when it was
pain mainfully obvious that he was lying is
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just disgusting. I personally think he's
a complete waste of space. And he
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used his parents and they paid the
ultimate price. So I hope he's enjoying
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prison because it's where he belongs amongst
all the other lies and cheats. But
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all I can say is at the
rady lies, I bet his ass must
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get jealous of all the shit that
comes out of his mouth.








