Dec. 18, 2025

Crime Wire Weekly 12/19/25 | Bondi & Brown University Shootings, Rob Reiner & Mess In Michigan (Preview)

Crime Wire Weekly 12/19/25 | Bondi & Brown University Shootings, Rob Reiner & Mess In Michigan (Preview)
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In today’s episode KJ and Jim bring you the week’s trending crime related headlines including in Michigan football head coach, Sherrone Moore’s arrest after an altercation with his mistress. Two mass shootings over the past week, including Brown University and Bondi Beach Australia, dominate headlines throughout the world and we catch you up on the details. Hollywood Director, Rob Reiner and his wife are killed by their own son. There is an update in the murder of Rebecca Park, and in Louisiana a man is arrested after driving naked in the middle of the night. These stories and much more today on Crime Wire Weekly!

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Timestamps
07:00 Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore arrested
18:10 New York City tourist stabbed in Macy's bathroom
23:30 DoorDash driver, arrested after “macing” food delivery
31:00 Hollywood Director, Rob Reiner and wife killed by son
36:30 Rebecca Park murder update
43:30 Mass shooting in Bondi Beach Australia
52:10 North Carolina brewery owner arrested after SA of teen
55:40 Brown University suspect still at large
1:08:30 Louisiana, man arrested after naked driving incident
1:12:30 Man on airplane attempts to open door mid flight

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Hey, folks, we got a big, jam packed show for

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you coming your way today. Here are just some of

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the topics we're going to be talking about. Michigan head

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coach Sharon Moore is fired from Michigan after a year's

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long affair with a staffer that leads to his arrest

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just hours later. We're going to be talking about that.

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In Indiana, a door dash driver is caught on ring

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cam pepper spring a delivery order. This was on the

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steps of a customer's home. And I know right, and

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I have some things to say about that. New disturbing

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details have surfaced in the killing of Rebecca Park. We

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have the updated information for you on that case. Hollywood

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director Rob Reiner and his wife are both found dead

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in their California home, and their son is arrested in

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the stabbing death of both. We're going to talk about that.

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The manhunt intensifies a shooting at Brown University in Rhode

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Island that left two students dead nine injured. Why have

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they not caught this guy yet? That'll be up for discussion.

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In Australia, tragedy strikes in bon Dye Beach as fifteen

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people are killed in an anti Semitic terrorist attack. These

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stories and more coming at you today on Crime Wire Weekly.

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I'm Jim Chapman, I'm Kelly Jennings.

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We got a lot to talk about today.

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Yeah, and that's crazy. I mean all over the place too.

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People are all over the world.

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Yeah, wil'ing out and not in a fun way. Yes,

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my goodness.

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Before we get into it, we do have, you know,

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an intro that Kelly and I have been kicking around

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for quite a while. So we'd like to go ahead

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and play that for you. This is you know, we

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really rely on the opinion of our fans when it

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comes to listening to this show, and we want you

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to be involved in the end. True, and so we're

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gonna play you what we're thinking and then we'll come back.

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Here's that.

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No, I got something that I need to say. I

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got something that need just say double. You can't win,

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say win sayable. Okay, we.

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Now say no what so what'kay?

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Relations how will you living O my b.

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Yeah, so you gotta you gotta explain it to people.

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There's that confused right now?

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They are so folks. Uh, the theov On, the the

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Genius of Comedy, THEO Von I watch his little short

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clips a lot, because well he's funny, and he played

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one this morning. He did a little short clip and

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it was talking about this particular person that you just heard,

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and uh, I thought it was hilarious.

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That's a that's a funeral.

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That's a funeral.

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Yeah, that's a funeral.

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No disrespect, but I know, I know this lady was

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getting after it. But look, this clip is viral because

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she is feeling it heard.

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I mean, maybe maybe we.

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Need to She had something she had to say to

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Low Oh my god, and with heart he was on fire. Yeah,

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so we really need.

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To take that as our startup, and when we're going

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to start these episodes, we need to be like, no,

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you got to count it in oh one two, one,

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two three? Maybe not anyway, maybe not.

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We thought that was so funny, y'all. We mean, you

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would get a kick out of that. If you listen

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to this show, you're like us and silly.

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Yeah, so you gotta smile to keep from crying.

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That's right.

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Look, speaking of almost crying. Before we start, I gotta

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tell you what happened yesterday. So I'm not afraid of

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the good will anymore. Okay, when I was younger, I

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was kind of afraid I wouldn't go there. I was like,

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what is I'm not going to buy old stuff? But

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now I love it right because I'm old. Yeah, And

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so I bought a little table and I was in

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the Christmas spirit. They said drive around and go pick

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it up on the side, and I was like, no problem, Oh,

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I can do that. So I drive around and this

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guy kind of blocked where I would have to park.

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So I pulled to the side, let him drop off

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his stuff. He left, and that's whenever I go to

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pull up further. Well, the guy that's working there, he

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picks up my table and he comes walking towards me,

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and I was like, wait, it's got to go on

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this side because I only had one space. It could

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go in the car because I had been Christmas shopping.

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And he shook his head no, and I'm like, we mean, no, no,

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it's got to go there. There's nowhere else to put it.

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You don't understand it, and I said, I've got to

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pull around. Well, when I explained to him, I've got

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to pull up so he'd get in the door got mad.

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He got mad at me and started rolling like huffing

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and puffing, and he ran back, not ran back. We

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turned around and he set it back down on the

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landing stoop. Well, I got a solid case of the

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red ass because he got mad at me for trying

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to help him by pulling up. So I pulled my

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car up, and I'm just it escalated quickly because I

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had an attitude at that point, because I was jolly

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as freak until that happened. And so whenever I pulled

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up and got out, he then jumps up on the

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loading dock and goes inside and slams his hands through

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the plastic little door opener's thing. That pissed me off

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an even more so I got in my mind, I

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don't need your help. So I walk over here and

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I'm and I just like picked that bitch up. I

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have to tell you it's heavy. It is solid wood heavy.

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I don't know how I mustard the strength up because

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I couldn't get it back out of the car when

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we got home. Okay, but I was so mad turned

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to the hulk and I was like yeah, and I

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grab it and I go walk into my car mad

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as shit. Well, this old band comes out that works

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and he's like.

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Whoa baby girl?

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Who what you doing. I was like, I don't need

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your head out. We're talking about the other guy. And

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I slung that bitch in my car. That old man

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jumps down. He's like, oh my god, I don't know.

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I couldn't even lift it, baby girl. I will not

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get in a fight with you. So I don't know

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if that says much, but he was, I do not

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want to get in a fight with you. Oh my god,

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Merry Christmas. I said, Merry Christmas to you, and I

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got my bay humbug ass in my car and drove away.

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And incidentally, she will be having surgery next week.

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I'm out, guys, it's because of the freaking good will delivery.

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Go wow, don't piss Kelly off. No lift all kinds

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of furniture. All right, let's get into it. Uh, And

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we're gonna start off in Anne Arbor, Michigan, and I'm

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gonna tell you about the form now former University of

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Michigan football head coach Sharon Moore. He has been arrested. Uh.

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This was actually on December tenth, just you know, a

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week or so ago after being fired for cause. And

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he has since been charged with felony third degree home

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invasion stalking in a domestic relationship, and breaking and entering.

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Now the thirty nine year old More, who incidentally led

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the Wolverines to two seasons of winning football. You know,

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very Michigan is a football college much like LSU. I mean,

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they love their football out there. Not near as good.

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But when I was younger, I actually just loved those

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colors and I would wear Michigan gear.

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Yeah, they have good colors, I agree. Prosecutors alleged that

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Moore entered the resident of a female staff member without

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permission following the end of their years long intimate relationship

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that led to a confrontation where he repeatedly made suicidal threats,

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stating I'm going to kill myself. I'm gonna make you watch.

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My blood is on your hands. You ruined my word life.

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According to court proceedings, the woman ended the relationship on

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December eighth and cooperated with the university investigation, prompting Moore's termination.

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The University of Michigan announced his firing on the tenth

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of December, citing what they call credible evidence of an

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inappropriate relationship with a staff member in violation of school policy. Now,

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the Pittsfield Township Police they responded to an assault call

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at the woman's apartment on the afternoon of December tenth.

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Moore was located then detained with assistance from the Saline

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Police Department later that evening, and he was booked into

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the county jail. Some reports indicated that he was unarmed

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during the incident, entering through an unlocked door. Through an

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encounter that escalated into verbal threats, He then, according to reports,

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went to the kitchen and grabbed some butter knives of

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all things, and started thretning to kill himself. Moore posted

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a twenty five thousand dollar bond following the arrayment and

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he was released and his buying conditions did include wearing

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a GPS monitor, no contact with the victim, mandatory mental

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health treatment, and restrictions on purchasing weapons or consuming alcohol.

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Former coach Jim Harbaugh, now with the LA Chargers, said

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he was still processing the events. He knew more very well,

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and you know, from all accounts from everybody that has

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discussed this situation, this is kind of out of character

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for him relative to threatening to kill himself things like that.

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So to give you just a little idea of the

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timeline here on December eighth, The accuser ended the relationship

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via a morning conversation. Following that, Moore started basically bombarding

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her with multiple phone calls and text messages, escalating her

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concerns that she was in danger. She was provided information.

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She provided information of the relationship to university officials on

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that day. On December tenth, more Than arrived at the

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house unannounced. The accuser was in the process at this

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time of packing her belongings to leave town, saying she

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was fearing for her safety. Hearing footsteps, she attempted to

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lock the door, but More allegedly barged his way through

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an unlocked door without permission. That basically then started verbally

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arguing with each other, during which Moore went to the kitchen,

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grabbed several butter knives and a pair of kitchen scissors,

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and threatened to kill himself. He reportedly yelled statements such as,

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I'm going to make you watch. My blood is all

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over your hands, etc. The accuser called her attorney, who

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advised her yet I had that same eyebrow left, who

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advised her to contact police, which she indicated she would do.

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At that point, More left the residence. Police then responded,

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and officers located more a little later on, and then

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he was booked into jail for those counts that I

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told you about. What do you think about that, Kelly?

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I know you got some thoughts.

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I do have some thoughts on that. So obviously I'm

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going to start with he's wrong to barge in her

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house and threatening. None of that is okay. But I

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want to back up for a second here, So I'm

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curious as to the exact timeline of when he started

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bombarding her with messages versus when she went to the

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university and disclosed what was happening. And why does she

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already have an attorney?

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Well, okay, a couple of answers to these questions. I

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can't answer the attorney question. She may have got the

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attorney because she knew this was going to go bad.

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That's maybe you know that. Maybe she had it before.

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I don't know. But I can answer the other one,

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and that is, according to everything that I've read, he started,

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she broke off the relationship, he started bombarding her with

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texts and calls, and that she was in fear at

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that point because he wasn't taking it so well. And

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that's when she went to officials at the school.

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Why wouldn't you go to law enforcement first? I'm just

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this is what I'm getting at. I'm not blaming her.

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I'm not blaming her. But he was a married man.

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You knew that, married with children.

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You knew that. First of all, he and they.

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Have been She had been his mistress for years. Right.

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First of all, he's a very handsome man too, if

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you're not familiar, because I looked him up just to

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verify that's he's a handsome man. But anyway, regardless, you know,

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you knew he was a married man, you still pursued

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that relationship, and that's a dock against you. I'm starting there.

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Second of all, now you want to end this relationship,

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and then you're gonna blow up his entire life when

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you have nothing to lose other than I guess your honor,

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you're gonna blow up his entire And again, I'm not

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saying him busting up in her house is right. None

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of that is right. But I don't I'm kind of understood.

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because now I'm gonna lose my wife, I'm gonna lose

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my family. Now I'm gonna lose my job, I'm gonna

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lose everything and then you're gonna, you know, do this

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blah blah blah. I'm not saying out.

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Of a woman's scorn type situation.

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We don't.

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Yeah, she was breaking it off with him and then

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she blew that shit up, And if this was not

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intended to become a money situation, I'm just I'm very

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and we don't have all the answers. And I'm one

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of those people that, look, I don't have all the answers,

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so I'm not coming to a firm conclusion on it.

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But I'm just curious about why she already had an attorney,

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And if you feared for your life, you called your

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attorney first, not law enforcement. That's weird that that that's

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weird to me.

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Where the whole freaking story blows up and if you're

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in fear of your life, you're calling the police. You're

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not calling your attorney saying should I call the police?

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Now, And I'll give you this thought as well.

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And you've already told the university you've already born.

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So it's not like she was called at the house.

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Yeah, it's not like she's calling to to, you know,

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mitigate for him to say, look, I don't want this

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to affect his life publicly. It's not that, you know.

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So that's the part that I'm like, I don't know, man,

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I can give.

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You, you know, and this is totally my just my

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thought process and looking into this. I'm gonna give you

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what I think happened. And I have no direct evidence

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of any of this.

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Two one two release.

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Okay, So here's what I think happened. I think that

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this girl had been seeing this guy for years.

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Certainly, if you're carrying on an affair for several years,

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there's some feelings there, likely on both sides. Of course,

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I think that she gave him some sort of ultimatum

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that you you know, I don't know what he's been

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telling this lady for several years. Probably I'm gonna leave

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my wife, you know, I just got to find the

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right time. And look, y'all, this guy is worth like

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ten million dollars. This isn't This isn't you know, you're

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gonna to leave your spouse for another person, and you're

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you're gonna walk away with what you walked into the relationship.

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He's going to get decimated.

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Well, real quick, let's call a dog a dog here.

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I mean he chose this path, he chose.

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This past, she chose this path. And as a matter

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of fact, Kelly, they didn't do a very good job

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of hiding it. This was like the worst Kep secret

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in Michigan football. They had video of of of them

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on the sidelines together, very close and and it was

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pretty obvious, especially in hindsight, that there was a relationship there.

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But I think that she got tired of waiting. She

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gave him an ultimatum. He told her, no, I'm not

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leaving right now. I think that she said, well, then

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I'm breaking up with you. It's over. And I think

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that at that point he got really scared about she's

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going to run her mouth. So I think that's when

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he was texting her trying to smooth things over. Okay,

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let's let's see if we get because he's nervous it's

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going to come out and his wife's going to leave him.

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And I think from there is where the escalation started.

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But she lost me with the fear of her life

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or anything like that when she called her attorney instead

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of the police. You don't do that if you're worried

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because a guy broke in your house, and I'm sure

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she was scared. Maybe he's gonna self harm himself. Yeah,

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but why I call your attorney.

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He's not gonna save him he case. That's kind of

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like I just covered the case of Kayla Giles right

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here in Louisiana and she shoots her her her husband's

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estranged husband, and then is going to say, oh my god,

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I feared for my life. But then you call you

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have the presence of mind to call nine one one,

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but then you hang up on them, and then you

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call your insurance company that you you took out insurance

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with for concealed carry in case you have to use

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deadly force. Like that does not that does not even click.

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It makes sense.

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That kind of clicks to me. Not me kind of

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mean because you're worried about if you're going to cut

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to jail. He's worried about.

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My children that are in the car. We don't have

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to go off on this one, but I'm worried about

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my children, you will, that are in the car. And

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I'm still I've just shot the father of my children.

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I'm afraid, but he's down and you're not going to

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render aid or do something, and then you hang up

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on nine one one to call an insurance company. Now, sorry,

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and if.

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You carrius about that, go let some unspeakable Kelly's got

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a two port series on that she is run.

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Yeah, anyway, this has that same essence to it. And

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while he's a dog and she's wrong for everything that

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she did too, I'm with you. She lost me at

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calling the attorney, yeah, and she you.

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Know, both both parties are complicit in the affair. Yeah,

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because it was very public. He was married. I mean,

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he was a football coach from Michigan, and he's not like, oh,

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I didn't know he was married. She knew. She knew

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me as a matter of fact. And we'll get off

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this topic after this. But a little tidbit that I'm

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a neglected to mention. She would escort his wife into

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the stadium for every ball game.

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Okay, well, she's a next Tuesday. She is a see

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you next Tuesday, next door. Move on. It's actually my turn,

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so I'm moving on all right now. This is crazy.

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A California tourist visiting New York City for the holidays

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was brutally stabbed in the back several times inside a

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women's bathroom at Macy's flagship store in Harold Square. Now

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authorities are describing this as an unprovoked attack by a

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woman recently released from a psychiatric hospital, and that alone

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sounds like a scary movie. The incident occurred on Thursday,

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December eleventh, twenty twenty five, around three pm, on the

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seventh floor of the Iconic department store, amid the bustling

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holiday shopping season. The victim a thirty eight year old

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woman from is it jerupa Valley? Have you heard of

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that before? DARUPA.

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I I'm not sure exactly what that.

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I think I'm saying it, but jerupa Valley, California, who,

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by the way, works for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

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She was changing her ten month old baby's diaper when

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the assailant entered the bathroom and began stabbing her repeatedly

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in the back. During the chaos, the baby then fell

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from the changing table that's up high to the floor,

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but the baby was unharmed from the fall. The victim

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also sustained a slash wound to her left arm and

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was rushed to a nearby hospital, where she was treated

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and thanked god released the following day in stable condition now.

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The suspect was identified as forty three year old Carrie

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a Hearn. I think is how they say this? See

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these names, man, it can never just be Smith. Carrie

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a Hearn from Massachusetts, and she had been discharged from

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the Manhattan Psychiatric Center earlier that morning after a year

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long stay for mental health treatment related to schizophrenia. Maybe

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they released her too soon, Jim, what do you think

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about that? According to prosecutors, a Hearne purchased a knife

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from the store itself before the attack, motivated by voices

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in her head instructing her to quote kill someone or

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she would be killed end quote. She has a prior

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criminal history, including a twenty eighteen arrest for threatening to

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kill Senator Elizabeth Warren on social media, and was under

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court ordered treatment as an incapacitated person since twenty nineteen.

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The victim's husband, who also works for the Sheriff's department,

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helped subdue a Hearn until Macy's security arrived and held

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her for police. Aharn was arrested at the scene and

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charged with the attempted murder, two counts of assault, criminal

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possession of a weapon, and endangering the welfare of a child.

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If convicted on top of the charge. If convicted on

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the top charge, she faces up to twenty five years

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in prison. During her court appearance on December twelfth, a

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Hearn appeared disoriented and told the judge, I don't want

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to go to another hospital. They didn't help me at

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the Manhattan Psychiatric Center. She was ordered held without bail.

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Macy's issued a statement expressing deep sadness over the incident.

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We are deeply saddened about the incident that took place today.

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As the safety of our customers and colleagues as our

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top priority, we kindly defer any further questions to the

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local authorities, and the attack has raised concerned about mental

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health resources and safety in public spaces. During the busy

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holiday period. The victim's husband shared an update saying his

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wife better and resting after the ordeal. Authorities are continuing

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their investigation, but no additional suspects are being sought.

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You know my thoughts on this one or number one?

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What did you think was going to happen? This is

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this woman obviously needed to be committed to a mental institution.

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Seems like for the rest of her life. You've already

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gained some a high profile because of your comments regarding

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Elizabeth Warren and you were going to kill her. Yeah,

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and this is a high profile senator and now you're

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in a situation where you have stabbed someone, and in Macy's,

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the flagship, Macy's, the one everybody goes to when they

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get to New York City and something like this occurs.

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I mean, if that's not a sign the world we're

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living in right now.

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The same day that she was released, so that begs

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the question, how on earth was she released if she

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was not stabilized. I mean, the hospital's obligation to me.

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I know the court order. You know that, she I

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don't know. Yeah, well I hear that.

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Yeah.

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Well, now we've got a problem on our hands. And this,

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to me, is going to directly go back to that hospital.

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Macy's is not to blame here. The hospital that's crazy crazy,

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And when you have an diagnosed, verifiable crazy person, I

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part of my heart does hurt for her. If I'm

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being completely honest here that she says, I don't want

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to go back to the hospital. They didn't help me.

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She obviously is hearing these voices. She's hearing the voices.

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She's cuckoo.

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Yes, I mean, and I'm not saying that n judging

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she has some serious mental issues that she doesn't need

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to be walking them on the free right.

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And we you know, police, and this is one of

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the biggest things too for our listeners to hear too,

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is that, you know, law enforcement our job and I

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say hours and I'm not, you know, talking for law enforcement,

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but their job is to protect society, okay, not to

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be psychiatric care. And so when we've got crazy people

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like this, all we can do is react to that.

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So who does the pressure lie on to keep these

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people out of society?

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Course system?

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Yeah, honest is on the courses all of this. Yeah,

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and we got to do better. That baby could have

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been killed too, Yeah, you know, so do better.

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All right, let's go to Evansville, Indiana, Right, and I'm

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gonna tell you about do you DoorDash effort?

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I don't. I'm not big on door dash. I don't

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like other people touching my food.

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Yeah, it's it's kind of freaks me out too. And

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we'll talk about it after the article. But a door

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dash delivery driver was arrested last week after authority say

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that she was caught on camera on camera spraying a

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customer's fast food order with pepper spray, an act that

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left a married couple sick and sparked widespread outrage online.

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The incident, of course, occurred shortly after midnight, when Mark

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Carden and his wife placed in a from Arby's through

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the door.

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Dash out they've gotten the meat.

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Door dash and Arby's US fast feed. According to statement,

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maybe so, and it was after midnight. Maybe they just

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didn't want to get out. But according to the statement

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from the Vanderberg County Sheriff's office, the couple began experiencing

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severe symptoms, including burning sensations in their mouths, nose, throat,

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and stomach shortly after consuming the food. Carden's wife reportedly

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choked and vomited after taking just one bite. Suspicious of

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the unusual taste and smell, Yeah, that would raise an

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eyebrow with meat, Carden reviewed his doorbell camera footage. The

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video allegedly showed the driver, later identified as twenty nine

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year old Courtney Stevenson of Kentucky, placing the delivery bag

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on the porch, taking the required confirmation photo, and then

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sprang the bag with an aerosol from a keychain canister

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before walking away. It's horrific. Cardon told the local media.

469
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We assume it's pepper spray. That's more than likely what

470
00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:03.599
it was, but now in this day and age, it

471
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.920
could have been anything. Investigator subpoenaed records from DoorDash to

472
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:12.079
identify Stevenson, who was in Evansville visiting her father and

473
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.640
picking up delivery shifts. When contacted by detectives, Stevenson claimed

474
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.880
she had been aiming the pepper spray to spider on

475
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:24.880
the porch right, citing her intense fear of spiders. However,

476
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.839
authorities dismiss this explanation, netting the outdoor spiders are inactive

477
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:34.400
in Indiana's cold weather oh nature, with every night lows

478
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.519
around thirty five degrees fahrenheit. That night, Stevenson canceled a

479
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:42.200
scheduled in person interview with detectives, prompting them to issue

480
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.839
an arrest warrant. She was apprehended on December twelfth by

481
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.599
the Sheriff's Office in Kentucky, where she lived and where

482
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:53.640
she is being held currently without bond penning extradition to Indiana.

483
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:58.640
She faces multiple felony charges, including battery resulting in moderate

484
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:04.640
bodily injury in consumer product tampering, and door Dash obviously

485
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:09.319
responded to this saying that you know, they support law

486
00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:13.400
enforcement and they don't obviously promote any of this, but

487
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:17.200
it's drawn national attention because the video has just absolutely

488
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:20.160
went viral everywhere. We'll put it on the Facebook. But

489
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:21.480
what do you think about this one?

490
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.079
Okay? Well, first of all, what I think happened is

491
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.279
that this little bit here thought that she was gonna

492
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:28.039
go spray this food and then get out of town

493
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:30.160
after she visited her father, and no one would ever

494
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:32.640
suspect that it was her. That is what she did.

495
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.799
Number two, when you order food door dash, this is

496
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.480
actually part of why I would never this right here

497
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:40.799
is why I don't like door Dash. I don't like

498
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.799
other people touching my food. But now they seal food,

499
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.599
they close some of them do, well, a lot of

500
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.920
them do, and they'll put a sticker or something. So

501
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.920
for you to claim that you've sprayed something exterior and

502
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.640
then it somehow got directly on the food, absolutely not.

503
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:58.000
And this is also reminiscent if of our listeners that

504
00:26:58.000 --> 00:26:59.599
we've had for a while. If you remember the young

505
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:03.000
lady the teacher that died that drank the the what

506
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:05.359
was it Margarita or whatever that had that solvent and

507
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.200
it this is along those same lines, because that is

508
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.960
an inhalent meant to just irritate so that you can,

509
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:16.119
you know, stop somebody. It is not meant to be consumed, swallowed, ingested.

510
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.039
And I looked up poison control just because I was

511
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.160
curious about that, and they're like, absolutely, don't vomit, because

512
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.720
if you vomit, then you're going to re irritate your

513
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.400
breathing and it can become a very serious, serious issue. So,

514
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.240
you know, bless her heart, this woman not only swallows

515
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.720
it then vomits it, and this could cause long term,

516
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.640
you know, medical complications because some moron thought, yeah, you're

517
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:38.319
a moron.

518
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:42.839
The main question here is why, I mean, why this

519
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.839
is way more than a prank. This could literally, as

520
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.359
you just covered, cause a lot of health problems with someone. Yeah,

521
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:55.759
just stupid, dumb, an example of of I don't even

522
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:56.519
know what to call her.

523
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.880
It's mean, it's just mean for this, for the secret

524
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.680
of getting away with it and knowing that you caused

525
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.799
that and no one knows ha ha ha. Well guess

526
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:06.559
what figured it out?

527
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:10.119
Yeah? Door And look it's not door. Dash's fault necessarily.

528
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.119
But let me tell you something. I used to order

529
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.119
a lot from door Dash. Being here in the studio

530
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:20.400
and always editing and doing things, you know, thirty forty

531
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:23.160
minutes to go pick up launch. To me, my time

532
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.279
was more valuable at spending editing, so I would order

533
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.200
in a lot from door Dash. And let me tell

534
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.720
you something. They need to do a better job of

535
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.480
screening their delivery drivers, because I ain't. I mean, some

536
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.720
of these people be looking sketch.

537
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:40.799
Okay, first of all, just look hard for it. Would

538
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.559
it shock you if I told you she had blue hair?

539
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.240
No, she has blue, but I mean blue hair people.

540
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:46.839
I know.

541
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.799
I do too, but I'm just telling you she I mean,

542
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.880
you know, And look watching the video, Okay, she's got

543
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.480
on a leather jacket. She does carry the bag of food,

544
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:00.279
sets it down on the doorstep, and then she does

545
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.960
actually spray like on top of it. I didn't look

546
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:08.079
at the video before, I commented, but obviously it infiltrated

547
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:09.119
the food in some manner.

548
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:09.920
Well, you know.

549
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.240
And then here she is with They've got the body

550
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.440
cam here of them going to arrest her, and I

551
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.920
don't know, maybe her hair is purple in this video

552
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.640
during the daylight. But you know she's acting like, what

553
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.599
are you talking about? Whatever? Your you you deserve a

554
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.480
felony for that. That should be a felony.

555
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:32.039
Well back to my point. Sorry, what I was saying was, uh,

556
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.000
a lot of these people lately. I don't know how

557
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:38.839
they can uh screen these folks too. You need to

558
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.880
have some sort of uniform, you need to be uh

559
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.319
you need at least brush your hair. I mean, I've

560
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.440
had some people come up here, uh to deliver food

561
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:48.799
and they're sketching.

562
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:49.160
And they look gross.

563
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.160
And I'm not saying with your food. And I'm not

564
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.599
hating on on anybody, but there's uniforms at places. You know,

565
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.839
you go in Best buyes khaki pants and a blue

566
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.119
shirt that says best bund on it. Get you some

567
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.759
standard uniforms where number one, you know the person is

568
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:06.400
actually from door Dash.

569
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:08.400
I'm curious too, I don't know if we have any

570
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:10.200
people that listen that door Dash, because I've had some

571
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.319
great doordashers in my time too. I'm not saying it

572
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.000
bad about it all, but obviously, but I wonder when

573
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.240
they sign off on this, if they have to sign

574
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.440
off something in their state that says it would be

575
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.160
like an automatic felony or something to mess with the food.

576
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.039
I wonder if they have to sign off on that.

577
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.480
Not that it would stop it, but I am curious

578
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:29.079
to know it should be it's not.

579
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.400
I don't know if that. Obviously I'm not a door

580
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.279
dash drive. I don't know, but I would say, uh,

581
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:39.920
that's also probably like common sense that if you dan spray,

582
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.920
you'd think freaking mace on someone's food, you might get

583
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:46.440
a felony.

584
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.319
Yeah, you think you'd become a common sense? Ain't common Jim?

585
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.720
It's not right? All right? Here we go. Let's talk

586
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:54.920
about Rob Reiner and his wife. Were you shocked when

587
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.200
you saw that? Because I was like, what in the world?

588
00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:57.920
All right?

589
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.200
Renowned Hollywood director and actor Rob Reiner, who is seventy eight,

590
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:04.279
and his wife, Michelle Reiner, sixty seven, were both found

591
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.319
stabbed to death in their upscale Brentwood home on Sunday,

592
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.839
December fourteenth, triggering a high profile homicide investigation that has

593
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