May 30, 2025

Crime Wire Weekly 5/30/25 | Murderer Grant Hardin Escapes Arkansas Prison, Louisiana Woman Set’s Ex’s Boat on Fire, Kevin Costner Lawsuit

Crime Wire Weekly 5/30/25 | Murderer Grant Hardin Escapes Arkansas Prison, Louisiana Woman Set’s Ex’s Boat on Fire, Kevin Costner Lawsuit

Link is below to follow "Crime Wire Weekly: It's Moving to it's own channel next week In this episode of CrimeWire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including a dangerous manhunt for an escaped...

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Season 7
Link is below to follow "Crime Wire Weekly: It's Moving to it's own channel next week

In this episode of CrimeWire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including a dangerous manhunt for an escaped Arkansas police chief, a shooting incident during a party in South Carolina, a lawsuit against Kevin Costner, a bizarre police shooting in Florida, a complex murder case in Ohio, a shocking attack by hitmen in Tijuana, an arson case in Louisiana, and a prison murder involving a rapist.

#ArkansasPrisonEscape #InternationalIndiscretions #KevinCostner #news #crime #podcast #crimewireweekly #prisonescape #granthardin

Chapters
02:53 The Escape of Murderer Grant Hardin From Arkansas Prison
06:09 The South Carolina Party Barge Shooting
09:11 Kevin Costner's Controversial Lawsuit
11:52 Florida Man Killed by Police After Being Bitten By Gator
14:59 Ohio Woman Kills Man and then Gets a Tattoo
44:51 Tijuana Men Dress as Nurse’s to Kill Woman In Hospital (International Indiscretions Segment) 50:39 Arson and Revenge: A Boat's Tragic Fate In Louisiana
55:14 Man Turns Murderer after Killing Cellmate in California

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In South Carolina, eleven people are hurt during a fight

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aboard a party barge Memorial Day weekend, and we got

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all the details. In Arkansas, a former police chief serving

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a thirty year prison sentence for rape and murder strolls

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right out the front gates and is still on the run.

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In California, Kevin Kostner is facing a serious lawsuit after

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a stunt woman claimed she was forced into a violent

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rape scene while filming his upcoming blockbuster movie. We are

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discussing these trending crime stories today on Crime Wire Weekly, and.

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I'm Jim Chapman and I'm Kelly Jennings.

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Kelly Jennings, you ain't in the studio with me today.

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I am not in a I'm in a filthy hotel

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room that my children have destroyed. And we are having

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the time of our lives on vacation. But as you know,

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people want to hear their crime news. And so I

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had to bring my laptop and my trustee headset and

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microphone and I'm making it happen.

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Yes, yes, you are working while on vacation. You are.

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We got to do what we got to do. But

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it's woman, it's fun, you know. We gotta. I appreciate

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this work. I think it's fun, but we got to

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let the kids have some fun.

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So they're sliding down water slides right now with the

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husband and I'm in the hotel.

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Noom, there you got talking about crime.

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That's right.

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Look quickly, before we get in to it today, I

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want to say I have a I guess we're going

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to call this our educational tip of the week. So

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I've had some comments on comments that you put, like

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on Spotify and Apple podcasts and things like that, and

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a couple of the comments have been in relation to

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commercials uting you off, meaning Kelly in mid sentence on unspeakable,

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and so I wanted to explain just quickly, we don't

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have any control over that. So what happens is Kelly's

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cadence is awesome. But sometimes Kelly will pause in the

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middle of a sentence when she's making a point. This

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AI that is used to insert these commercials. They think

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that when she's pausing, sometimes that means the sentence is over,

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when actually it's not. It's Kelly does a great way

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of storytelling, for a fact, and sometimes it'll just assume

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that that is commercial time, and we have no control

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over that.

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Sorry.

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So somebody said that whoever inserted your commercials needed to

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be fired. Oh my god, and yeah they look at

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piss them off. Girl. I was like, damn, this really

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must have pissed you off.

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Me.

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Why this is why we offer Patreon commercial free episodes

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on both of our shows is so you don't have

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You can join that Patreon and guess what, you get

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And you gotta make money to make sure that they're necessary.

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Yeah, thank us so much, And we do appreciate something.

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Majority of feedback is always really good.

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I mean, people I think appreciate the time and effort

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for those people that are supporters and everything.

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Matter of fact, I was at an Astros game yesterday.

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I was like, so typical to Texas and somebody said

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it to me, So that's kind of fun.

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Very good, very good. Well, speaking of awesome, we're going

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to get into the news for today, the crime headline,

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if you will, and right off the bat, I'm going

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to tell you about a pretty wild one out of Arkansas.

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The manhunt for Grant Harden continues. This escaped former Arkansas

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state police chief is serving a thirty year sentence for

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murder and rape, and officials are actually entering the fourth

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day of search efforts. Grant Harden, who is fifty six,

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has been in prison since twenty seventeen for first degree

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murder and rape. He escaped the Calico Rock North Central Unit.

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This was on Sunday at approximately two point fifty pm.

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That day. Harden escaped custody through a sally port by

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impersonating a corrections officer, and they stated that he impersonated

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that officer in dress and manner, which caused another corrections

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officer operating a secure gate to open the gate and

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allow Harden to walk away from the North Central Unit.

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Now officials said during a presser on Wednesday that Harden

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was not wearing an official uniform from the Department of

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Corrections and it had to have been homemade or brought

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in somehow. In their opinion, I would agree with that

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that's the only way he's going to get it right.

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Surveillance footage shows Harden pulling a cart which was found

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a band in outside the gates of the prison, and

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as I said, he remains at large as of this recording,

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with official saying during a press conference they are confident

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he is still in the area of the prison. Official

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said citizens of Izard County and surrounding county should stay vigilant,

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lock your house, your doors, and report any suspicious activity.

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Called nine one one if you see, if you think

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you see this guy, and the US Marshals are of

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course assisting in the search efforts. Stone County Sheriff Brandon

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Long said, quote, I am very scared that this guy

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is going to hurt or kill somebody before this is

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over with now. Harden is the former police chief of Gateway, Arkansas.

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He worked in the prison kitchen, but it is unclear

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whether this job involved any access to the sally port

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he used to escape. He had no significant disciplinary issues

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during his time at the prison, and there's no reason

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to believe anyone aided him in the escape. As of yet.

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Nathan Smith, the former Benton County prosecutor who helped put

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Harden behind bars, said the escaped inmate is a sociopath.

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He was quoted as saying he has no moral cores

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or center that would prevent him from doing anything. Harden

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is considered extremely dangerous should not be approached. Authorities using helicopters, drones,

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canines and ATV have been looking through rugged terrain, densely

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wooded areas and hills, and all of this hinders kind

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of an ongoing search because this is not looking for

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someone in a metropolitan Atlanta, Georgia. You know, they are

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looking in a lot of wooded areas where there's a

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ship pile of places to hide. Quite frankly. Harden pleaded

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guilty in October of twenty seventeen to the first degree

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murder in connection of the shooting death of fifty nine

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year old James Appleton. He was also convicted of the

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nineteen ninety seven rape of an elementary school teacher in Arkansas,

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and that crime was actually highlighted on a television documentary

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called The Devil in the Ozarks. This was in twenty

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twenty three, and Cheryl Tillman who is now the mayor

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of Gateway, Arkansas, and Appleton's sister incidentally said that Harden

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is an evil man and said his escape is the

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ast like deja vu all over again. Harden is six

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feet tall, two hundred and fifty nine pounds, so a

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big guy in authority said anyone with information should contact

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local law enforcement. And Kelly is someone who worked in corrections.

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What do you think about that?

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Yeah, it actually raises questions off the top because if

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he is designated as a kitchen worker, I'm curious as

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to why he would be outside the gates with a

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cart that was left out there to begin with.

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That to me kind of stinks. I'm not quite buying

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that whatsoever.

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Now, as a sociopath and someone who knows law enforcement.

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Not myself by the way I'm talking about him, to

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be clear, but as.

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Someone who understands law enforcement and all that that entails,

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I could see how he could just command a presence

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having been in charge in law enforcement before. Of maybe

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if this is a younger officer that was there and

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he said, sign open this gate or I'm going to

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get you know what I'm trying to say, and he

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used that power complex over someone I could see how

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that could happen, but for him to have a uniform

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of any nature that would make someone think that he

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could be allowed outside of those gates. And then it

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said he was pushing a cart that had been abandoned.

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I just don't. I think that stinks. I don't there's

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something wrong with that. That sounds like someone assisted in

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some fashion. And he knows that he's got to get

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out of town. He's not a fool, so I would

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be hard pressed to think that he didn't have something

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set up. I'd be looking at his visitation records and

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see who's been visiting him, if anyone in the recent months,

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and I'd be jumping down that trail.

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Yeah. And you know, if you're the district attorney that convicted, Look,

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this guy's a nut job. He is a straight up,

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stone cold martyrer. And if you're that DA right now,

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I bet he has twenty four hour security protection around him.

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Because some these guys have escape that are stone cold murderers.

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They know they're going to get caught. They just want to,

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you know, probably take out whoever they want to take

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out that they've been thinking about since they've been in jail.

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Well, and I'd be kind of thinking tactically here because

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I think if he was law enforcement, that he has

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a tactical mind in some fashion. You know, I'd be

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curious if he had a radio and if he was

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monitoring radio traffic, because if that's the case, he knows

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what's up unless they're on some kind of talk around

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channel that he wouldn't have access to.

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I mean, just there's a lot here. And you never

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underestimate an opponent.

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I think that's the worst thing you can do, is

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underestimate an opponent like this.

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And how do you if you're I mean, the guy

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opened the gate, Just let him on and see you later,

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see you tomorrow at work. Yeah, you got to be

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right there is getting clowned right now.

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I bet he's getting canned.

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He's filling out applications right now, because what the hell

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you know?

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And that's a you know, it's an unforgivable mistake right there.

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Now, assuming that he wasn't a trustee of some sort,

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that would have been allowed outside of the gates. But

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I can't understand why you would be in the kitchen

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and then be right right, No, I'm saying I'm saying

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the bad guy I don't see why he would have

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been allowed outside of those gates, because if you're working

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in the kitchen, then I don't see you having any

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reason to be outside of the gate. I don't see

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how those two jobs would have gone hand in hand

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if you follow what I'm saying. So yeah, but hey,

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stay vigilant, stay safe because this guy that's a scary combo. Rapist, murderer,

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former law enforcement that is a very scary combo.

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I agree, and luck. Escapes have been peppering the the

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media lately, especially in Louisiana.

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Oh my god, we.

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Got still got some on the run from the New

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Orleans escape. They had a guy escape from Tangibahoe Parish

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for the second time yep, a week ago, and fortunately

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they caught him.

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But this is the thing in corrections, and anyone who's

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worked in law enforcement knows this. But these guys have

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three hundred and sixty five days, twenty four hours a

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day to think up ways to get out. Plus, if

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you think for one second they're not monitoring what the

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patterns are. There should never be patterns in prison as

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far as the officers go. But if you don't think

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they're not monitoring the patterns and seeing and finding.

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The loopholes and the weaknesses.

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If you think that that guy did not size up

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that officer at the gate and choose him as the

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one to go upon and say open this gate, you're

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sadly mistaken. All of that was calculated, and I believe that.

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But hey, let's go on to South Carolina. You want

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to go there with me? So a fight on board

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a boat where one hundred and twenty people were partying

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over the holiday week and led to a shooting where

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eleven people were hurt along the South Carolina coast. Only

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three of the people hurt in Sunday nights shooting remain

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in the hospital and all are expected to survive, thank god.

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The shooting happened on the dock in Little River along

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the inner coastal water as people were getting off the boat,

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and investigators believe only one person was firing. Ten people

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were shot and one person was hurt when a speaker

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fell on their head. Okay, I'm not making light of this,

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but imagine being in a shooting and you're injured and

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they're like, oh god, you were shot, and that no

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speaker hit me in the head, you know, Wow? Bad

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tying there, but no arrest have been made, and many

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people ran for their lives with the gunfire erupted and

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were gone by the time that the officers arrived. The

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chief refused to say what started the dispute on the

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boat and how it led to the shooting on the dock.

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He also would not say what kind of weapon was used.

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Items were recovered, but that's part of the investigation and

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we don't want to release it at this time. Police

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said most of the victims were shot in the lower

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part of their bodies. The shooting was around nine to

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fifteen pm and it happened where a private charter boat

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docks for cruises. About one hundred and twenty people and

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four crew members were on the packed boat. Authority said

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about three miles down the Interer Coastal Waterway, a North

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Myrtle Beach police officer act ccidentally shot himself in the

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leg as he tried to get a boat into the

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water to respond to the shooting scene. Little River is

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about twenty miles northeast.

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Yeah said he accidentally shot himself and eating he did.

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He accidentally shot himself in the leg as he tried

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to get a boat into the water.

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I don't. It doesn't give us much more about that.

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I have no clue what happened there.

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and the fishing village is known for its docks and marinas,

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where fishing expeditions, casino boats, and several dolphin cruises leave daily.

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The investigation into Sunday shooting has been made a little

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harder because many of the people in the boat were

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from out of town and detectives are trying to track

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them down.

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According to the local police chief, lots of shots fired there, jump.

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Lots of shots and one hundred did you say one

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hundred and something people?

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Yeah, so it was one hundred and twenty people were partying, Yeah,

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and eleven of them.

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You twenty people on a boat? I don't.

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I'm not sure.

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A yacht, huh, I guess.

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Kind of big, big, big ass boat. I don't know.

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But what the hell?

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Why was hurt? Seriously?

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I'm glad about that. But when it says that they

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were all shot and they were lower half, it makes

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you wonder was it someone shooting from above downward or

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was it someone like my mind.

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Goes to they were fighting on the boat and someone

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just started popping people.

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Ground or maybe they were short.

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I don't, I don't, I don't know, but my god,

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you go out and think you're gonna have fun on

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the water and then someone just starts shooting.

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That's insane.

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And then none of these people thought that they should

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contact local authorities.

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me when I'm.

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Getting off of a boat, but then they're all from

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out of town, So the hell, what like, you're not

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gonna say, hey, this guy shot at me, I'd like

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him to not.

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Do you need to be held accountable for that? That's

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that's bizarre to me.

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Definitely bizarre. And uh so we'll keep you updated. If

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we're getting more information on that, We're gonna go to California.

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So look, Kevin Costner, now Joe amazing actor, just wrapped

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up Yellowstone, one of the yellows of all time.

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I may have been called Beth a time or two.

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Jim, Yeah, there you go. Well, Kevin Costner is in

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a little bit of trouble. Uh, and it's gonna be

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I guess it's up to you to judge if you

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think this lady is being legit or not. But I'm

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gonna tell you what's going on. He's being sued by

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a stunt woman who claims he made her perform an

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unscripted and violent rape scene while filming his upcoming film

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Horizon on American Saga Chapter two. Now, Horizon has gotten

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a lot of play all over the place on the

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internet as far as the movie being produced directed by Costners,

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starring Kevin Costner, supposed to be a huge blockbuster, and

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this lady, whose name is Devin Lobella, She was the

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lead stunt double for actress Ella Hunt. She claimed she

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was the victim of a violent, unscripted, unscheduled rape scene

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directed by Kevin Costner. In the lawsuit, which was filed

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Tuesday in California, Labella, who is thirty four, claimed she

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was hired on the condition that an intimacy coordinator would

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be present for all nude or intimate scenes. The condition

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fell through the cracks when on May second of twenty

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twenty three, Labella was called to the set to fill

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in for Hunt, who allegedly refused to participate in that

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particular scene. After Hunt refused to perform the unplanned rape scene,

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Labella was called in without any prior warning of what

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would happen in the scene. The harsh scene was also

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in violation of SAG rules, which say at least forty

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eight hours notice and prior consent be given before any

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scenes involving nidity or simulated sex take place. Who knew

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that even existed. Costner, who was directing that day, was

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very hands on as they describe it and presents he

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when presenting this uncomfortable scene, which was filmed without an

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intimacy coordinator. While filming the scene, Costner allegedly directed a

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male actor to repeatedly perform a violent simulated rape on Labella.

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The actress was instructed to mount the stunt double and

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mime unbuttoning his pants. The actor then violently raped up

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or raped up her skirt. Bella allegedly said the scene

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was broadcast publicly on monitors for the entire crew to witness, etc.

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So there's a little bit of a caveat to this,

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and that is that Labella has made claims like this

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in the past. Apparently with other movies that she's been

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a part of. It said that she claimed after traumatic

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after the traumatic filming experience, she experienced sudden bouts of

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crying on the set and took several days to reclaim

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control of herself. Labella was not higher back for Horizon three.

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I guess not. I'm Kevin Costner. But there was apparently

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a history that she had of making claims like this.

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Now I'm not saying it's legit, not legit. I don't know.

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I wasn't there. I will say that I was very

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curious because I had never heard of a intimacy coordinator.

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So apparently I've looked that up.

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Yes, yes, And I was interested in it too, I'll

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tell you, because I was curious where to evolve from

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what I was curious during these scenes that seem so

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hyper sexual sometimes, you know, and so like, how are

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they getting through this scene? Because I'm not an actor

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or an actress, And so that's why I looked it up,

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by the way, because I was curious what they do.

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Well. I also googled it, and according to Google, an

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intimacy coordinator is a professional who guid's actors to ensure

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intimate scenes are handled respectively, Yes can.

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And like also there's extra padding and like put in

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the clothing in scenes where they looked to be naked.

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You know, they're not in a lot of them, and

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so there was like extra padding put in the clothing.

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They almost mocked the scene so that nobody was taken

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by surprise. I guess with what was going to happen,

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because I think more communication equals a better performance and

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comfort for both actors.

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Is kind of how.

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I don't understand when when this started though, because this

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wasn't always They didn't always have this. I would imagine

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maybe the me too movement time is when these started

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coming into play, because I remember nine and a half

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weeks with Mickey Rourke and I think it was Kim

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Bay Singer, but they allegedly had sex on set during filming,

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and there's been a couple of other actors slash actresses

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that supposedly it was real sex, like they weren't faking it.

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That's that would mean I.

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Would have to look up exactly who. You can certainly

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google it. But back then they had no intimacy coordinator.

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But you know, I appreciate the intimacy coordinator personally. I

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think that that's wonderful because when you're doing, you know,

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your acting, you're pretending you're taking on the role of

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somebody else. And to me, most arguments in the world

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today stem from miscommunication. Miscommunication, and so yeah, and so

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what better thing not to do than to sit down

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and say, Okay, obviously it'll be fluid in acting, but

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these are kind of the key points of things that

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should happen. You know, if you're going to be pushed

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against a wall, or if you're going to be you know,

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your shirt ripped or something like that. I don't see

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how you could go wrong with that, you know, even

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the but even the Blue Angels, you know, when you and.

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You're like, how are you going?

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Blue Angels?

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And hang on, follow me, follow me here?

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Okay, yeah, that's all we need to do is start

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that rumor. But no, I watched them recently on a

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TikTok and how they sit down and they close their

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eyes and they visualize what they're going to do and

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the turns and when they're going to do it without

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you know, being able to see the other. And that's

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how they keep such tight formations and they work through

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it and they know exactly what's going to happen, because

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miscommunication in that regard is death. So take it back

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down a level to acting.

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I just I really do.

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I think I can appreciate that because you can feel

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comfortable to be an actress or an actor and not

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feel like someone's going to do something maybe that you're

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not prepared for or uncomfortable with.

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Right, And I would say it also protects both parties

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because then if someone says, oh, she did something I

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didn't want her to do, or he did something I

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didn't want him to do, you have a third party

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there you can say, ah, that's not what happened.

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Yeah, And so I.

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Was the intimacy coordinator. I might look into that job.

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You want to do the gym we will start pod

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casting intimacy coordination that I'll touch her. All right, Well,

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come with me to Lakeland, Florida. Now, which Lakeland? When

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I think of that, I think of school shooting.

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But this is going to be I think of Sheriff

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Grady Judd.

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Yeah, that dude's so freaking cool. Oh my god, I'm

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a fan. I'm a fan of him. All right.

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Well, a man that was believed to be on drugs

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was shot and killed Monday by Florida Sheriff's deputies who

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had tried to shock him with the taser as he

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wielded a set of garden shears.

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Shortly after, he was apparently bitten by an.

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Alligator in Lake How that happens. That's just the strangest

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set of events to happen one after the other. But

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Paulk County Sheriff Grady Judd told reporters the two deputies

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were trying to de escalate the situation before the man,

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who was identified as forty two year old Timothy Schultz,

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climbed into their running patrol vehicle and tried to get

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the weapons inside. That's when the deputies opened fire. And

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this was a quote from mister Judd. He said, this

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is just crazy stuff. Okay, you know that it's got

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to be true. You can't make it up.

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Schultz had a long history of drug related arrests, and

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he had been released from jail last Tuesday after being

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arrest for possession of meth, so I think that's maybe

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an indicator of what was going on in his head.

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Monday's incident started when a convenience store worker at about

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five fifty six am reported a man acting bizarrely shaking

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and asking to call his son. Deputies went to the store,

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but they couldn't find a man. So about seven forty

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three am, people reported that there was a man that

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was later identified as Schultz swimming in a lake that

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contained multiple alligators.

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One witness tried to give him a life preserver and.

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Another one was trying to speak with him but was

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given a growl in response while he was in the water.

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While he was in the lake, he was apparently bitten

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by an alligator on his right arm, and the sheriff said,

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quote the fact that he was bitten by an alligator

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00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:26.720
significantly and still continued his rampage is shocking. But if

466
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.200
you're on enough meth, then the person you see is

467
00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:32.480
not the person that's attacking. When Schultz emerged from the

468
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.400
water in this gated community in Lakeland, which is east

469
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:37.839
of Tampa, he picked up a set of garden shears

470
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.200
that had been left outside, and then he tried to

471
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:43.160
break into a vehicle with a brick. So after the

472
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.920
deputies arrived at the scene, he charged at them with

473
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.480
the shears, and the deputies tried to de escalate the

474
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:51.519
situation and they told Schultz put down the shears They

475
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:54.680
attempted to shock him with the taser twice, according to

476
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:57.680
the sheriff, and they were still trying to take him

477
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:01.440
peacefully into custody when Schultz entered the deputies still running

478
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.519
patrol vehicle from the passenger side, and he tried to

479
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.880
grab a hold of either the rifle or the shotgun

480
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.920
inside from the holster the holders that they're locked in.

481
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:13.640
The deputies then shot Schultz multiple times. The incident is

482
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.559
still under investigation, and the deputies have been placed on

483
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:20.319
routine administrative leave during the initial phases of the investigation.

484
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:28.480
Wow, and he's dead. And what do you think about this? Well,

485
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:30.119
you know, too much force?

486
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.279
No, absolutely not. We've got a guy that's now been tried.

487
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.079
They tried to speak him down multiple times, so he's

488
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.880
he's obviously not in his right state of mind, which

489
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:41.599
again that that's hot, that's sad.

490
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:43.319
But he chose to.

491
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:48.119
Smoke meth and then his body reacted accordingly. He's been

492
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:53.359
multiple people have reported him as acting bizarrely. He's in

493
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:56.160
a waterway at a gated community, is not so bit hell,

494
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:57.920
even the alligators bid him and then we're like, get

495
00:26:57.920 --> 00:26:58.559
the hell out of here.

496
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.279
So good question, A question he wouldn't. He wouldn't he

497
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.200
was a law He's on meth.

498
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:07.400
Yeah, yeah, and he's got multiple weapons.

499
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.160
He's got garden shears, he's got a brick and people

500
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.000
may think not much of a brick. Well, have someone

501
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:14.440
attack you with it and then tell me how you

502
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:15.279
feel afterwards.

503
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.200
Then he jumps into a running patrol car.

504
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.119
I mean, he could have taken that car and taken

505
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:22.160
off and then people would be looking at the police

506
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.200
like they're the idiots, you know that, And that's just

507
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:24.640
not the case.

508
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.160
Then when he starts trying to grab weapons, you know.

509
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.440
It's it's it's really I think messed up. He's trying

510
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.720
to get to the the You know, the question here

511
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.079
is going to be did could they have stopped this

512
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:37.440
without killing him?

513
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.960
They tried to taze him twice. I mean, if you

514
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:46.119
look at the use of force continuum, different places, different

515
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:48.279
states have different jump in points. So I mean, I

516
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.920
can't speak on Florida. I don't with with Sheriff Judd

517
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:52.640
being there, I think it'd be kind of He's like,

518
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.599
you jump in where you need to, but you know,

519
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.039
this guy has a deadly weapon. The shears are a

520
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.640
deadly weapon. We'll start there. That is an absolute deadly

521
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.319
weapon has the potential to kill somebody. Even with a knife,

522
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.200
you need a twenty one foot reactionary gap. So I

523
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.640
think the more educated somebody is, the more that they

524
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.319
would realize. I think that the police officers chased him around,

525
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:13.720
tried to de escalate this, and once you put your

526
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:14.799
hands on the gun.

527
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.839
Yeah, yea, that's certainly where he took it too far. Yeah,

528
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.000
if you will, I mean the garden chairs, you can

529
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.279
you can shoot someone in the leg or something like

530
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:25.880
that probably stop them.

531
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.119
But we don't shoot for the for the leg.

532
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.880
That's the thing about weapons that I think that maybe

533
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.880
the average public doesn't look at is that we are

534
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.839
not trained to shoot people in the leg And I

535
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.440
don't speak for anyone professionally or anything like that. I'm

536
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.920
just saying from a history of experience, and so once

537
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.240
you pull a weapon in the line of duty, it's

538
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.720
never to scare somebody. That's what cowards do. If a

539
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:47.559
weapon is pulled, it doesn't mean that you have to

540
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:48.759
shoot somebody.

541
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.480
But it absolutely means that.

542
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:57.359
The potential for a deadly encounter is there. And we're

543
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:01.319
not shooting in the legs. We're gonna shoot to to

544
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.519
stop to neutralize the threat, and that's what they did.

545
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.359
Yeah, all right, So I'm not I'm not.

546
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:09.240
I'm feeling like he kind of got what he what

547
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.440
he what He maybe not what he wanted, but he

548
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.160
got what was coming his way after multiple attempts to

549
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.039
de escalate and don't do drugs. And I know that

550
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.799
sounds kind of harsh, but he probably would not act

551
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.160
that way in his right mind, but it is what

552
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:22.960
it is at this point.

553
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.680
Yeah, and got bid balin alligator in the process.

554
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.640
I mean, dang, imagine going up to head.

555
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:36.039
Said and he kept coming after getting his arm bit.

556
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.319
That tells you a lot about.

557
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:41.759
What, you know, what had him going and what was

558
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:43.359
in his system because he was messed up.

559
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.599
All right, Let's go to Ohio and I'm gonna tell

560
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:50.680
you about a US Coast guard that turned only fans

561
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:56.119
model that is facing a decade long prison sentence for

562
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.680
luring a man she claimed raped her into the woods

563
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:04.799
of a national park in Ohio and executing him. Chelsea

564
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:09.440
Perkins pleaded guilty on Tuesday to second degree murder in

565
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.400
the twenty twenty one death of thirty one year old

566
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:18.119
Matthew Dunmyre. This was in the Coo Yoga and I'm

567
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.240
positive I'm mispronouncing it, but it is what it is.

568
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:26.599
Valley National Park near Cleveland. Hikers in the Terra Vista

569
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:31.119
National Study area of the park found Dunmyer's body. This

570
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:35.200
was around eleven am on March ninth of twenty twenty one.

571
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.799
He had a single gunshot wound to the back of

572
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.839
the head and an Aquafina water bottle lying next to him.

573
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.960
FBI agents learned Dunmyer had gone out with friends and

574
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:50.799
co workers to a bar four days before the discovery

575
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.839
of his body. Dunmyre told them he was going to

576
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.759
meet a woman who was in town for the weekend.

577
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.359
The woman showed up in a white car, and his

578
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.519
boss actually watched him get in that car and leave.

579
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.759
License plate readers showed the car belong to Perkins's husband.

580
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.279
That's right. Investigators later learning the pair drove to an

581
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.680
Airbnb that the defendant had rented using her credit card.

582
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.440
After spending the night with Don Meyer, Perkins sent a

583
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:25.480
Facebook message to her tattoo artist in Metropolitan Detroit that

584
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.240
she was in Cleveland and was going to make a

585
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:32.240
stop thirst before going to Michigan. The pair drove to

586
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.000
the National Park. This was on the morning of March

587
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.640
sixth of twenty twenty one, and hikers said they heard

588
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:43.160
a gunshot between eleven thirty am and at eleven fifty am.

589
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.920
Another pair of fikers reported in countering a woman later

590
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.160
conferring to b Perkins, who was walking and appeared to

591
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.119
be lost. They thought it was odd she was wearing

592
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:57.720
knee high boots and not hiking gear. Perkins then drove

593
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.400
to a tattoo parlor in Michigan. Agents keen in on

594
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:06.400
Perkins as a suspect and found that the same car

595
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.640
was parked outside her husband's home in Virginia a couple

596
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:13.200
of weeks later, the suspects DNA was also found on

597
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:17.440
the aquafina bottle, as well as on Dunmyer's body, and

598
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.160
after her short tent in the Coastguard police figured out

599
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.400
Perkins went on to be an OnlyFans model under the

600
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.960
name Sabrina Savage. As for perkins rape allegation against Dunmyer,

601
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:34.119
police and Virginia Beach said there was not enough evidence

602
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.720
to move forward on that charge. The case took a

603
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:41.359
twist in November of twenty twenty one, when Dunmyer's parents,

604
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.759
who were upset that Perkins had not been arrested yet,

605
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.799
took matters into their own hands. Dunmyer's mother, Tommy Lynn Dunmyre,

606
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:54.680
and father, John Nelson McQuillan drove to Washington, d C.

607
00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.160
With plans to kill Perkins. Tommy Lynn Dunmyre dressed up

608
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.839
as a ups driver and knocked on an apartment door.

609
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.480
When a woman answered, she shot her twice in the abdomen.

610
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:11.920
The problem with that was the woman who answered the

611
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.880
door was not Perkins. The older Dunmyre had just shot

612
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.319
a woman who had nothing to do with her son's murder.

613
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:24.319
Tommy Lynn Dunmyre and McQuillan changed license plates on their vehicles,

614
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.759
but police were still able to track them down. Tommy

615
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.880
Lynn Dunmyre then shot herself to death as officers were

616
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.960
closing in. The woman she shot fortunately survived her injuries,

617
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:43.000
and federal agents arrested mquillan, who later pleaded guilty to

618
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.559
accessory after the fact to assault with intent to kill.

619
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.839
He received a three year prison sentence, and Perkins, in

620
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.559
all of this, faces between twenty and twenty five years

621
00:33:54.559 --> 00:34:00.279
in prison. When she sentenced on September ninth. And as

622
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.000
crazy as all of that story is, boy, you talk

623
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.000
about some moving parts. What really blew up my mind

624
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.199
was it took four fricking years for them to get

625
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.760
to this point. It is now twenty twenty five, middle

626
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.159
of twenty twenty five. This happened in twenty twenty one.

627
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.480
There's so many things happening here that I can't quite

628
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.000
wrap my mind around.

629
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.119
And to start, you.

630
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:26.400
Know, if you were a victim of rape.

631
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:29.599
That is probably one of the most horrible.

632
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.559
Things that I think a human being can do to

633
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.719
another person. That's so just demoralizing. The issue here becomes

634
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.519
that there's little to no evidence of that happening. You're

635
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.199
claiming you were raped, yet you dress up provocatively, are

636
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.000
willing to spend the night with the guy that supposedly

637
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:48.679
raped you.

638
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:51.400
It seems like your question and whether she got raped,

639
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:52.000
and we don't know.

640
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:52.679
If she got No.

641
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.559
No, no, I'm not questioning if she was raped or

642
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:56.159
not because I don't have enough evidence one way or

643
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.079
the other on this based on what I've read.

644
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.599
I mean, she was dressing provocatively.

645
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.440
She's in knee high boots, bringing him into no, she.

646
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.119
Went out for the night. Have you seen what these

647
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.519
women wear that go out these days?

648
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.599
Do you wear knee high boots into the woods and

649
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:12.159
bring a pistol and shoot from one of the back

650
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:12.639
of the head.

651
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:19.920
Well, no, I don't with you.

652
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:20.760
I can't.

653
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:24.599
Night.

654
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:26.679
This is what's going on here. We're going to do

655
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:31.719
some international indiscretions. Okay, because two hitmen were dressed as nurses.

656
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.320
Yeah, international indiscretions. That's a segment tip.

657
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:39.920
Yes, I love that. Dunt dunt down? All right, two hitmen?

658
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:45.519
Is that our sound? Two hitmen dressed as nurses snuck

659
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.960
into the ear at Tijuana's General Hospital on Wednesday to

660
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.079
quote finish offul woman who had been the target of

661
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:53.280
shooting the day before.

662
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:57.800
And this from Tijuana police. The woman was initially brought

663
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.000
to the ear after being shot outside of a convenience

664
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:04.039
store on Tuesday evening. And when police say, when witnesses

665
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.599
saw a man approached the victim outside of the store,

666
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.199
she ignored him and that's when he took out a

667
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.400
gun and he shot her in the abdomen and in

668
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:15.199
the arm. Paramedics transported her to the Tijuana's General Hospital

669
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:18.079
for treatment. Now, the victim was identified as thirty nine

670
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:20.760
year old Wendy Ilm, and that's how it's listed. There

671
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.880
is no last name. That's why I'm just saying Wendy Elm.

672
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:27.400
But investigators have told reporters that they have yet to

673
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:29.280
find a motive for the murder, and they described the

674
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.960
woman as a single mother who lived modestly and cleaned

675
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:32.920
houses for a living.

676
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.800
So, according to police, she was shot twice at close.

677
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.840
Range and killed by the pretend nurses as she slept

678
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.960
on a gurney Wednesday evening in the hospital's emergency room. Now,

679
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.320
this is what's even stranger about it. Witnesses said that

680
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:50.360
the National Guard soldiers were on patrol in the emergency room,

681
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:53.239
but they did nothing to stop the suspects as they

682
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.599
ran out of the hospital. Hospital administrators say they're cooperating

683
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.440
with police, but have refused to answer questions about how

684
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.039
the gunmen were able to gain access to the emergency

685
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:04.840
room area and the victim.

686
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.960
Yeah, and let me tell you it's a horrible story

687
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.920
Mexico right now. In a lot of other spots in

688
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.920
South America that used to be like the places to go,

689
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.960
you know, if you want to go on vacation, are

690
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:27.239
not anymore. Tia want of Mexico used to be somewhere

691
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.000
you'd want to go, that was a tourist destination and

692
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.320
a fun time and all those sorts of things. But

693
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.880
let me tell you this. To me, screams cartel related

694
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:40.880
the fact that no one tried to stop them when

695
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:46.679
they went in there. Yep, definitely says cartel was involved.

696
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:52.039
Otherwise they look. The Mexican police and the cartels battle

697
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.320
it out often in the cartels will pay off police

698
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.639
a lot of times in order to kill somebody, and

699
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.880
they wanted this person. It's as simple as that. When

700
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.320
you go in the hospital and say we're gonna finish

701
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.039
you off, and you make that happen and you get away.

702
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:10.719
These guys will never get caught. But it's a shame

703
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:15.239
because a lot of these tourists destinations that used to

704
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.920
be so great, and the economy there was rocking because

705
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.360
people from the United States want to go it to

706
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.119
Ya Wanner, they want to go to some of these

707
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:28.280
other places. Now you don't want to go there, No,

708
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.239
it's you're an American, you're really going to be in Tronle.

709
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.639
Yeah, And so it's not and it's not hate towards anybody.

710
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:37.320
It's just protection of yourself.

711
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:37.599
You know.

712
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.920
My grandma always used to say, Kelly, you stay on.

713
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.920
The beaten path, baby. Wherever you go in life, stay

714
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.280
on the beaten path. And unfortunately here this woman sounds

715
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:47.480
like she was on the beaten path.

716
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.679
I mean, she was just living her life. And I

717
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:51.079
think about her babies.

718
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.239
Because it says she was a single mom and she

719
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.760
cleaned houses for a living, which made me wonder whose

720
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.239
houses does she clean? And did maybe she see something

721
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.679
or find something that she sh and have found. Maybe

722
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:03.599
that's why it was so imperative that they wanted to

723
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.960
get rid of her. I don't know what could cause

724
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:10.960
not one, but two people to be willing to go

725
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:15.400
in broad daylight and shoot somebody, you know, unless there

726
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:16.679
was much more to.

727
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.960
What she knew or they thought that she knew, could have.

728
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:26.159
Been, could have been her brother was someone who hawed

729
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.559
them money in this day, they were going to kill

730
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:32.360
a sister over, you know, to make him pay. Yeah,

731
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.599
for that. There's a multitude of reasonings as to why

732
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.079
that happened. We'll probably never know.

733
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:41.880
And the thing too is yeah, and the thing too

734
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.039
is they have what they call plata diploma, which is

735
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:44.880
silver or lead.

736
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.280
And basically, you either take our money.

737
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.199
As when we were talking about the cartel paying people

738
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:51.039
off and the police and all that, it's kind of

739
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.480
like silver or lead. You either take our money and

740
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:55.559
you turn your head and you look the other way,

741
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:57.719
or you can eat a bullet and you can decide.

742
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.679
But once they take the money payoff, now there it

743
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.599
incriminates you, but by force of hand, if that makes sense.

744
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.760
So I feel so sorry though for those kids. He'll

745
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:11.119
never know their mama. You know that, we'll never get

746
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:12.239
to grow up with their mama.

747
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:17.360
It's a tragedy, definitely a tragedy. And Lucky used to

748
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:23.519
be something where these tourist destinations were protected. And when

749
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.039
they had a cartel shit go down, it wasn't going

750
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:28.760
down in the resort area, if you will. Now it's

751
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.639
starting to even the resort areas in some of these

752
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:36.400
places are getting very sketched. Let's go to Louisiana. I

753
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.480
love that, okay, right, and we're going to go about

754
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:46.320
ten minutes from here Greenwell Springs area. Oh no, and look,

755
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.239
this story I'm about to tell you is a mind

756
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.559
blower and it involves a woman who is facing charges

757
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.360
after official say she intentionally set fire to her ex

758
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:04.880
boyfriend's boat in a boat now and threatened nearby residents.

759
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.280
Jail records show that Zana Lee, who is thirty, was

760
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:13.159
arrested This was this past Tuesday, on one count of

761
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:17.400
aggravated arson. Now. The incident Lee is accused of occurred

762
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.880
on Greenvial Springs Road. Y'all, that's in the central area

763
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.280
of Baton Rouge, but not very far from where I'm

764
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.280
recording right now, super far from where Kj's recording right now.

765
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.760
That's right. So. According to Baton Ridge Fire Department, the

766
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.400
fire was extinguished when crews arrived on the scene, but

767
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.960
it had caused approximately six thousand dollars worth of damage

768
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.920
to the boat, completely destroying it. Investigator said. Witnesses reported

769
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.440
seeing the victim's ex girlfriend near the boat shortly before

770
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.559
the fire began. They said she had allegedly made multiple

771
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.320
threats in the past, including threatening to set the boat

772
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:03.719
on fire. According to official, surveillance video showed Lee's vehicle

773
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:08.239
enter the parking lot and parking near that boat. Minutes later,

774
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:12.880
the video reportedly showed her vehicle speeding away while flames

775
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.960
became visible in the boat and that boat was quickly

776
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.000
engulfed into fire. The boat was parked just a few

777
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:24.239
feet from an occupied apartment building, which officials say created

778
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.079
a serious risk obviously to residents. You don't want that

779
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:33.920
spreading no word on what the guy did to get

780
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:37.039
his boat set on fire. kJ Maybe he did nothing,

781
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:41.000
maybe not, maybe you know, or maybe cheating on him.

782
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.920
We don't know. We don't know, but I'll tell you what.

783
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:48.159
Ladies getting buck wild today on the crime wire. You know,

784
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.119
first we talk about a woman killing a man and

785
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.199
getting a tattoo, and now one setting her ex boyfriend's

786
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:55.840
boat on fuck.

787
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.599
She went for the for the jugular on this one,

788
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.960
to touch a man's boat, like, that's hatred, because you

789
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.079
don't touch a man's boat or his golf clubs. I

790
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.599
learned that growing up, Daddy wouldn't let me near the boat,

791
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:08.280
and he wouldn't let.

792
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:11.679
Me near his golf clubs. So obviously she was pretty pissed.

793
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.840
I don't know if you've ever seen Young Guns, and

794
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.559
this is an older not an older movie. It was

795
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.000
in the nineties and a Milio Esteves played Billy the Kid,

796
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.280
and they had several other people in this in this movie,

797
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:28.480
but There's one point during the movie where Billy the

798
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:30.800
Kid goes up to a guy that's actually a bounty

799
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.599
hunter looking for him, and he says, hey, man, can

800
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:35.079
I see your gun? And the guy didn't know it

801
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.360
was Billy the Kid, so he's like this real slick

802
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.880
gun slinger and he hands the gun to Billy the Kid,

803
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:45.159
and Billy the Kid's looking at it, and the guy says, careful, son,

804
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.760
stroking a man's gun is like stroking a man's lady.

805
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.920
And then Billy Kid cheats him with his own gun.

806
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:57.159
It was great, but you know, sat in a man's

807
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.599
boat on fire is like messing with a man's lady.

808
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:03.519
I said that that's just in South Louisiana. That's unconscionable.

809
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.480
You leave the boats alone. They did nothing to you, okay,

810
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:08.719
and uh hey look, and then to put all those

811
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:11.400
other people at risk nearby just because you're that angry.

812
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.000
That's not cool.

813
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.360
And again, but you know, we don't know what occurred here.

814
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:20.320
Did she catch him cheating with her best friend? Who knows?

815
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.760
And then half the ladies listening to us will be like,

816
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.320
you get girl, set that boy's boat on fire all

817
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:29.960
of a sudden night to we don't know. She might

818
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.920
have had a good reason. We don't know yet, but

819
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:34.440
I'll tell you what. She was scorned some.

820
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.960
She off you ain't never lied.

821
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.360
And now maybe take just a moment to remember the

822
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.880
boat and all that it went through when the boat

823
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:43.360
did nothing.

824
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:44.920
All right, well, let's talk about this.

825
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.840
We're in Cali now where let's see, we're in Alameda

826
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:51.159
County and this is where a Alameda County rapist is

827
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.440
suspected of killing his cellmate in Mule Creek State Prison.

828
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:59.239
So we've got a rapist gone murderer. The rapist, fifty

829
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.360
four year old Jes Ferdin, was moved into a restrictive

830
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:07.480
housing unit pending the homicide investigation. Now this name, I'm

831
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.400
gonna say his name is Longino. If that's not it,

832
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.159
I apologize. But Longino Jones, fifty one, was found unresponsive

833
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.079
inside of a cell he shared with Ferdin. Jones was

834
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:21.159
transported to the prison's triage area, where he was pronounced

835
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.599
deceased by paramedics an hour later. Ferdin was convicted in

836
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.320
Alameda County in twenty eighteen of rape with force and violence,

837
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.880
and he was sentenced in twenty nineteen to serve twelve

838
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.480
years in prisent. Okay, I haven't even finished going through

839
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.760
the article yet, but you got twelve years on a

840
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.119
violent rape and then you're gonna go and kill somebody.

841
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:39.920
Dude, you would have been.

842
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:41.840
Out in six on good time and then you go

843
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.280
and you kill somebody. I don't understand the logic here,

844
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.239
But Jones was convicted in Los Angeles County in two

845
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:50.079
thousand and seven on first degree burglary as a third

846
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:54.599
strike offender. He was sentenced to life with the possibility

847
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.079
of parole. Mule Creek State Prison houses more than thirty

848
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.559
eight hundred inmates, and the Huma side is under investigation

849
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:06.599
and Amador County Corner will determine Jones's official cause of death.

850
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.440
And you know what's interesting to me right off the

851
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:14.119
bat about that article is it's like roll reversal. Usually

852
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:18.519
the rapist gets killed in prison. Yeah, that's the ripist.

853
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:23.480
The murderer kills him, right, because nobody, even even the

854
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:30.440
lowest of the low prisoners hate rapists. They don't. Yeah, yeah, that,

855
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.000
uh so this was kind of roll versus Well, the

856
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.440
rapist did the killing and it did you know, you

857
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:39.599
didn't say in that article, so I assume it didn't

858
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:41.760
reference what cost it.

859
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.440
Yeah, it doesn't. He's just found unresponsive.

860
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:48.159
So but then point up though that, Yeah, I mean

861
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:52.199
he twelve years stent, probably gonna serve half that. Uh,

862
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.800
and now he's going to just life. It sounds like

863
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:55.280
in jail.

864
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.440
Well look, I'm not even I'm not.

865
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.440
I mean, aside from the fact they think you just

866
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:03.239
killed somebody. To get twelve years for a violent rape,

867
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:06.119
it says rape but with force and violence is to

868
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:10.239
me unconscionable. Twelve years, absolutely not. He should have been

869
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:10.840
in there longer.

870
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:13.360
Kelly Jennings any final thoughts.

871
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.039
Now I'm about to go jump down a water slide.

872
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:16.880
Can't wait.

873
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:17.920
I wish I was.

874
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.159
Put on your knee high boots that you like to

875
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.840
wear camping and you come on and jump down this

876
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:25.679
water slide.

877
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:29.719
Yeah, I ain't got the water slide here. I've let

878
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.679
down fisc wing to do a slipping slide like leg

879
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.599
in the old days. A lot of people listen to

880
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:40.840
this so well, I appreciate him there and we love it,

881
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.519
love it, love it, and we thank you so much.

882
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.960
Of course, always here to talk about the crime.

883
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:52.480
That's right. And until next time, I'm Jim Chapman.

884
00:47:52.280 --> 00:48:00.440
And I'm Kelly Jennings for Crime Why Weekly. Yes, don't

885
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:01.000
I do it again?

886
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:03.639
No, I like it when I'm doing it again. That

887
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:04.480
was spontaneous,