July 24, 2025

Crime Wire Weekly 7/25/25 | Kohberger Sentencing, Ex-Girlfriend Jailed for Stalking, Louisiana Cop Killer Sentenced (Preview)

Crime Wire Weekly 7/25/25 | Kohberger Sentencing, Ex-Girlfriend Jailed for Stalking, Louisiana Cop Killer Sentenced (Preview)
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Season 7

In this episode of CrimeWire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including a Louisiana killer of two, including a State Trooper is sentenced. In Idaho, Kohberger is sentenced but not before he is “told about himself” during victim impact statements. An Ohio teacher is jailed for felony stalking of her ex-boyfriend and much more today! (See topics below)

*This is a preview, links to listen to the full podcast by following "Crime Wire Weekly" are below.

Topics (Full Podcast)

  1. Shocking Louisiana Double Burglary
  2. Father Who Reported Daughter Missing, Arrested.
  3. Stalking Teacher Sentenced in Ohio
  4. Paddle-boarder Murder (Update)
  5. Kohberger Victim Impact Statements Hit Hard
  6. MRI Machine Tragedy
  7. Dog the Bounty Hunter Tragic Shooting Incident
  8. Florida Woman Lures Men and Robs Them of Watches
  9. Ole Miss Player Killed in Memphis Shooting
  10. Texas Father Arrested for Abuse (Update)
  11. Murder Sentencing of Louisiana Cop Killer
  12. Complete Victim Impact Statements in Kohberger Case
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Welcome back, folks. We have a jam packed show for

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you today. Some crazy crimes from all over the country

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and Kelly Jennings are wilding in Louisiana this week. The

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topics for today. A suspect is arrested for burglary in

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central Louisiana. He goes to jail, he gets out, and

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you will not believe what he does. Next, Also in Louisiana,

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a man who murdered a state trooper and a woman

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in Prairieville, Louisiana. He is on his way to Angola

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and we got the details on that. An Ohio teacher

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is sentenced to jail time following a stalking charge in

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which she visited her ex boyfriend's workplace some thirty three

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times in one month. You are not gonna believe this

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story and it I'll give you a hint. It's not

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kjadded it.

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Was not mess.

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An old miss football player is tragically killed in a

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shooting that took place in Memphis, Tennessee. In New York,

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a man is killed after being sucked inside of an

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MRI machine while wearing a metal chain. That's an unbelievable story.

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How about a Florida woman who was sentenced for following

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male tourists back to their motels, enticing them to let

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her inside their hotel rooms, and pepper spraying them and

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stealing all of their belongings. We've got these stories and

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more coming up for you today, as always, Welcome to

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Crime Wire Weekly. I'm Jim Chapman.

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I am still Kelly Jennings.

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You're still Kelly Jennings.

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Nothing's changed, nothing.

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Since last week, not that I know of. Very good. Well,

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we're going to jump right into it today. We've got

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a lot of lot of just crazy crimes coming out

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from everywhere. It must be the heat, got to be.

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People are getting just crazy when it's this hot.

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Yeah, you know that's a thing. They say that summertime

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breeds crime because people are just hot, miserable, and I

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guess they just want to do wrong.

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And limited on the odorant. I'm telling you, I have

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been out in the wild, and I have been.

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In the wild.

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I've been amazed by the the smells. The higher the temps,

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the higher the crime rate.

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That's that's correct. So we're going to start out in

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uh Baton Ridge, Louisiana. Shout out, Shout out, Baton Ridge

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and a search for a burglary suspect that kept deputies

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busy this past Monday morning. Deputies from the Eber Parish

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Sheriff's Office were called to a house in central uh Louisiana,

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which is just kind of like the outskirts of East

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Baton Ridge Parish. According to authorities, the suspect, Henry Taylor,

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thirty seven, had gone to a tool shed and he

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had taken out some items. He was then confronted by

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the homeowner. This was before deputies arrived at the scene,

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and the homeowner, in an effort to kind of scare

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this guy away, he shoots a bullet into the ground,

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intentionally missing the suspects and no one was hurt. Taylor

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takes off. He goes into a wooded area near where

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that homeowner's house was deputies. They then set up a

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perimeter and they even waited for SWAT to arrive. Now.

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He eventually surrendered without incident, no problems right so. Deputy

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said that after seeing pictures of Taylor, they recognized him

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because he had been arrested in the past, so he

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was currently on probation for a burglary charge when he

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was committing this burglary, and that was out of Livingston Parish, Louisiana,

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where we record out of Now he gets arrested, and

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that should be. That should be the end of our story. Right,

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Well not quite. On Tuesday, just one day after Henry

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Taylor bonded out of jail for burglary, he's back behind

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bars again, this time for breaking into facilities around the

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East Baton Ridge Parish prison. You can't make that shit up.

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Dude burglarized the prison. Now, let me tell you what happened. Taylor,

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of course, is now accused of entering by breaking a

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window on a guard shack just outside the prison gate.

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So after paying his bond, Taylor was seen walking out

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of the prison. That was at twelve to twenty five

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am Tuesday morning. He was wearing a brown shirt and

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blue shorts, which I was like, blae shorts.

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Wow, blue and brown, Right, it's a combo for the Yeah.

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Well, I guess that's his way. So he had a

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bandage wrapped around his head, but he never actually left

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the prison grounds. Around twenty minutes later, he seemed walking

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from one guard shack toward another, before walking a distance

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back to the first guard shack. He's then seen back.

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He's then seen walking back and forth multiple times. This

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is all on surveillance video. Around one for one am,

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Taylor walks back to what's known as the Unit to

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guard shack where he allegedly shattered the sliding glass and

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he entered that shack. Shortly after he started walking down

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the street towards the prison's logistics building and that was

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also burglarized around the same time.

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Did they say what he took?

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Well, we're going to get into that.

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Oh wow.

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Officials report that in East baden Ridge, Paris Sheriff's office

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radio was taken from the guard shack, which was recovered

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near the logistics building. Detectives also found the bandage that

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was on his head near the Unit two guard shack.

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So he's not very good at covering his tracks. Yeah,

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I mean, you got a bandage around your head. Let

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me pull this off and leave it as evidence. Right, So,

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of course, deputy secure a search warrant for his arrest

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rather and they arrest Tailor a second time at his

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home in Central And you know, apparently this guy is

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just a serial burglar. He can't even help himself. It's

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like crack to him.

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Yeah, I'm wondering if he went for a strategy that

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he knew that there would be a radio in there,

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so he wanted to get it so he could listen

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in as he committed other burglaries, and it would give

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him like a leg up on getting away or something.

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That might be giving him way too much.

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Credit though, Yeah, you might. He doesn't seem like the

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sharpest of burglars. I mean, I'm not hating on him,

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but you don't pull your bandage off and leave it

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at the scene. I mean, here's my DNA.

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The sharpest tool in the shed.

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Yeah, because he broke into a shed.

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Yeah that was very good.

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Okayjay, thanks, I can see all your laugh charges rulling

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out of it. So yeah, he So they released him,

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I'm guessing late or in the early morning hours, right

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if he didn't make it that far and he just

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went yeah, one am and he's back in the shed.

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Yeah it was. He didn't get barely off the ground.

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You know, the person who.

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Ever paid that bond, you learn your lesson, Learn your lessons.

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I doubt he paid it. He's a burglar.

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He looks like a burglar too, he does. We'll paste

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his picture on the Facebook page.

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He judge of us.

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But it is But if if I were to picture

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a burglar or I'm picturing this guy, I don't know.

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I mean, maybe I'm hating on him. I'm sorry if it.

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Might be, Well, he's a dumbass. So we'll just we'll

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let that slide, right. Hide your kids, hide your wife,

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and lock up your tool shed. If you are in

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the local area where we're.

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Podcast right now, and you know, shout out to the

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citizen who actually fired a warn shot to blow this

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guy's head off, because he could have.

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Yeah, he could have.

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He could have, you know, so well, he's lucky to

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be alive. He lives to burglarize another day. All right.

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So let's go to you New York now, where a

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man whose nine year old daughter was found dead in

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a wooded pond after he reported that she had been

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abducted while they were vacationing in upstate New York was

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charged Monday with her murder. Luciana Fradelein, forty five, of Montreal,

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is charged with murdering and concealing the corpse of his daughter,

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Molina Frattolin.

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According to New York State Police.

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A not guilty plea was entered on his behalf at

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his arraignement on Monday, Luciano called nine one one Saturday

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night and told authorities his daughter had been abducted from

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a parking lot near Lake George, which is a resort

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town in the Adirondack region. According to authorities, that led

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officials to issue an Amber alert overnight to enlist the

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public's help in finding her, but authorities said that there

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were inconsistencies in the father's account and that they concluded

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there was no evidence that she had ever even been taken.

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Fradelein initially said he couldn't find his daughter after he

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stepped out of a wooded area at a parking lot

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near Lake George, but during a subsequent interview, he then

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reported two unknown males forced her into a white van.

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Robert McConnell said that that lead was thoroughly investigated and

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it was disproven. Surveillance videos show the father and the

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daughter in a nearby resort town, which was Saratoga Springs,

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at about five thirty pm on Saturday. The girl spoke

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on the phone with her mother for about an hour

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and then didn't indicate at any point that she was

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under any type of duress, so police believed Fradelen killed

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the girl. After the phone call, and before he made

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the nine to one one call, forest rangers found the

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girl's body on Sunday afternoon in the shallows of a

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pond about thirty miles and Fridelein had concealed her body

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under a log. The father and daughter had been vacationing

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since July eleventh in the US and were expected back

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in Montreal that weekend. The girl lived in Montreal with

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her mother, who has been estranged from Luciano since about

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twenty nineteen. He described himself as a loving father on

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his Instagram profile, and he also had a website for

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a coffee company that he was said to have founded,

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and a post said that his daughter, Molina was quote

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the light of his life. Police said Fridelein had no

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prior criminal or domestic violence history, and then they just released,

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now that we're recording this, that the autopsy showed preliminary

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cause of death, which was asphyxia due to drowning.

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Oh my god, that's horrible.

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And this child.

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I know that this probably is irrelevant, but I just

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have to tell you. I looked up her little picture

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and what a beautiful.

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Girl, very Italian looking.

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You know, she's got the dark skin, she's got long, long,

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long hair, and just absolutely precious young girl.

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All girls and all boys and all kids are precious. Yes,

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you know, with this guy seemingly not having any criminal record,

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not showing any sort of signs of this in the past,

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he seemed to be a successful person, business owner, doing

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all these good things. What drove him to do what

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I consider about the most horrible thing you could ever do,

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which is kill one of your own kids in such

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a heinous ways, to drown them?

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Yeah to you know, evil, you don't want to envision this,

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but that means he held his own baby girl down

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and drowned her in this water, and then to lie

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and say that two other men took her. I'm wondering

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if this was in some way a way to make

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the mother pay. I'm not saying she deserved it, but

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certainly there's nothing worse she could do.

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That's the only thing in his history that you can

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see where they were having problems. You know, obviously that's

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an insane person relative to their thinking process right now.

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But to plan a vacation and then and then.

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Your daughter make a call, make the phone call and call.

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Her mama, maybe that's what set him off.

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Well, uh, yeah, I mean she was killed shortly thereafter,

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unless that was part of the plan.

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Maybe he got mad because she was loving her mama

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and missing her mama on his vacation. You know, people disgusted,

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It's beyond disgusting. And then to enter a not guilty

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plea okay, okay, you're delusional and well.

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You got nothing to lose. I mean, you're you're not

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right now, you're fighting to not get a death penalty,

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and you're you know, negotiate with I know prosecutors as

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much as possible. They're always gonna plead not guilty.

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My child is gone, then I don't care if you

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kill me. I just don't, you know what I mean?

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So what a what a piece of shit because obviously

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only cares about himself and he's willing to take the

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life of a child.

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Sick they have it. Well, let's go to Ohio and

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an elementary school teacher who has you know, problems of

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her own when I tell you this story. She was

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sent enced to jail time after she robbed her ex

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boyfriend and caused mental anguish by visiting him at work

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thirty three times in just one month after the breakup.

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Thirty three times in one month. That's like once a

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day and once or twice.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, she would after the breakup. That's the

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whole key. They weren't and she's going by there on

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his lunch break. Let's each eat lunch together, baby, and

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all that sort of stuff. This chick was going over

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there after they broke up thirty three times so, according

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to a report from the Westlake Police Department, officers first

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became involved in the case after being called to an apartment.

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This was on November sixth of twenty twenty four for

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a report of a theft. The victim told police that

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he recently broke up with his ex girlfriend, who is

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twenty seven year old hen A Freeman, and that he

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believed she entered his car and stole two backpacks containing

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two computers in the victim's wallet and total, the items

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were worth around twelve hundred bucks. The victim also told

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police that Freeman would frequent his place of work as

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well as his residence, causing stress and mental anguish. Freeman

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was arrested the next day when the victim called police

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once again to report that Freeman followed him to his

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job and was sitting inside of his vehicle. Oh my

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God officers said they arrived and they found Freeman in

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her own vehicle, and that she said she was invited

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by the victim. Right believe that authority said they were

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reviewed security camera footage in the area and they determined

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that Freeman had shown up at the victims workplaced thirty

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three times on nineteen different days over a thirty day period,

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so more than two a day if you only count

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that the nineteen different days. Freeman was initially charged with

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a menacing by stalking, but played guilty to disorderly conduct,

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obstructing official business, and possessing criminal tools. In Jane, the

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school district that Freeman worked for announced she was placed

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on administrative leave after they learned of the situation, and

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she was sentenced finally to seven days in jail and

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eighteen months of community control is what they call it there,

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community service basically just this past week.

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Like community control better?

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Yeah, I too, it sounds more official. Yeah, er her

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community control.

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I saw a video whenever she was convicted in court

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or sentenced in court, and she started squalling like she

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had just been given death pedals.

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Oh yeah, I mean she was crazy, shook it. She's

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nuts and look y'all will post her picture and I

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know this doesn't matter, but I'm just saying she's she's

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a very pretty girl that you wouldn't think would stalk

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her ex boyfriend the way she was doing. I guess

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the you know, some of the pretty ones are as

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crazy as some of the ones that aren't. Say this chick.

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Here is this is fatal attraction stuff like where you

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just can't and look, hey, I'm gonna give just an

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ounce here and say that I think everyone in life

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has dated the wrong person. Yes, okay, and they can

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drive you absolutely insane.

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But dad, com you want me to tell you, I'll

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tell you. Yeah, that one, that one's way above and

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beyond even regular stalking when you go that much. But

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I'll tell you a quick story. When I was, oh,

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I was probably nineteen years old. I was working at

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a place. I was dating a girl that also worked there,

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and you know, she wanted to get more serious than

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I did, let's just put it that way. And eventually

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I figured this out and I'm like, Okay, I gotta

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I gotta probably cut the court distance myself from this girl,

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very sweet girl, very pretty. Uh So I did that,

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you know, I just kind of like broke up with her,

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and one day I get called into the whatever, the

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human resources for the place I worked. I'm trying to

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avoid saying it. And they call me in there and

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they say, and we'll call her girlfriend a. And they say,

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girl A, No, I just chose that. They said, girlfriend

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A reported something kind of disturbing to us, and we

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need to get your sight of it. And I said okay,

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and they said, well, she said you busted her side

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view mirror off her car. And I said what and

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they repeated what they said and they said that she

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said I did that in the parking lot of this business.

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And I said, uh, never happened. And so it made

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me so paranoid. I called the police and I asked

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them if someone says I did something I didn't do,

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am I going to get in trouble? Because I was

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freaked out by this time, because she totally and you're young, totally,

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she was trying to get me fired from this place

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of her breaking up with her insane. And then you

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know what the police said, if she could tell you

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you did anything to her, and we would have to

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arrest you and you would have to just prove that

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in court, and that Yeah, that scared me shitless, I bet,

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because I'm like, if she's going to say I'm busting

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a mirror off her car, what else is she going

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to say? You know what, I did quit the next day.

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I would too.

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She got what she wanted because I wasn't playing that game.

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Yeah, yeah, don't even anticipate in the game. Now, this

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is nowhere near her.

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She was as close to that.

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Yeah, well who's laughing?

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Now?

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Who's laughing? And she's like, well you did bust Oh

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my god, I did not.

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Well, this is nowhere near as cool as that story.

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But one time I walked past a school at school,

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I walked past a car walking to my car, and

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someone had suction cuped a tiny little dildo to a window.

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That is way different, but it makes you wonder why,

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Like I stopped and looked at it and wondered, why

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why would one do this? Is this evil or funny?

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It is perplexing, very perplexing. But be careful out the school. Yeah,

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it was a drive by dildoing, and so you know,

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protect yourself at all costs.

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All right.

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Now, look on a totally opposite end of the spectrum,

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we have an update now to a story we did

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what was that a week ago? Was it last week

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or the week before?

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It was a week before.

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Yeah, and this was about that paddle Border that had

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ended up found dead in Maine.

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Well in a total Sunshine.

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Yeah, Sunshine just out doing her thing, mine in her

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own business, live in a very authentic life, doing just

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normal things. And now, in a huge twist of events,

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a teenager has been arrested in the death of the

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paddle Border who was found dead two weeks ago near

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a Maine pond. Maine State Police arrested a seventeen year

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old boy who was from Maine in connection with the

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death of Sunshine, who went by Sonny Stewart. He was

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taken into custody without incident and taken to Long Creek

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Youth Development Center in South Portland. An official familiar with

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Sorry Boom. An official familiar with the investigation, said that

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the teen was in the Crawford Pond area to spend

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summer vacation time with his family. The teenage suspect reportedly

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led police on a wild goose chase through the vacation

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destination as locals feared the possibility of a killer lurking

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within this remote campsite. The body of forty eight year

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old Sunshine Bunny Stewart was discovered on a remote island

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in Union's Crawford Pond earlier this week after departing for

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a solo paddle boarding trip, and autopsy determined Stuart's cause

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of death was strangulation and blunt forced trauma. Nearly two

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weeks later, authorities arrested a seventeen year old male and

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he had been charged directly in connection to her murder.

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Both Stuart and the teenager were reportedly staying at Mick

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Mack Campground when the alleged killing occurred. It's not a

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place where these things happen, Catherine Lunt said, and she's

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the owner of Mickmack. It's not a place where we're

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suspect of each other. As authorities race to find Stuart's killer,

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Lunt reportedly combed through surveillance footage from across the campground

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and search for anything suspicious. I was looking for a stranger,

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Lunt said, somebody out of the ordinary. Absolutely, nobody was

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looking for a child. We were looking for an adult.

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The search continued, with Maine State Police reportedly zeroing in

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on a remote area where Stuart's paddle board was found.

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I was obsessed with finding out who did this, Lunt said,

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because it was terror for everybody. Meanwhile, the teenager, who

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was visiting the campground with his parents, was reportedly eager

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to aid in the hunt for Stuart's killer. He would

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often offer to help fellow campers with their pets or

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yard work. He enjoyed doing, doling out these wooden crafts,

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and taking his little boat out on the water. According

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to Lunt, so she seems to be very aware of

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what was going on at her campsite. He volunteered. She said,

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he said he had some information and he took them

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in the opposite direction of where Sonny was found. He

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had said he had something to show them, then took

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them out on the lake on pretty much a wild

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goose chase. As the next two weeks went on, the

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teenager was acting completely normal. He acted like nothing ever happened,

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and it's haunting, she added. He was not on anybody's radar.

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Police reportedly spoke with the teenager for several hours before

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leaving the campsite, and later that evening that's when authorities

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returned to arrest him. Just thinking no way, this cannot

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be happening. Lunt said, then I went back to the

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surveillance cameras to see where he was at the time

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of the killing, and those surveillance videos indicated he was

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on the lake at that time. The footage reportedly showed

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the suspect returning to land just before sunset on the

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evening of Stuart's alleged murder. We have a lot of kids,

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and they do a lot of things, she told ABC News,

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but not anything that would make you think that a

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child was going to murder somebody here.

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I have nothing nice to say. It's disgusting.

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And in a brief court appearance on Friday, the teenager

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entered a denial to the charge and is currently being

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held at a youth detention facility in the Portland area

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ahead of his status conference on August twenty second. The

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State Attorney General's office is asking the court to try

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the teenager as an adult, and if convicted as an adult,

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that teenager would face a maximum prison sentence of twenty

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five years to life.

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Yeah, and on this one, there's a lot of obvious

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disturbing things. The martyr in and of itself is very disturbing.

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The age of the accused is very disturbing excuse, it's

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totally ruined his life. But what disturbed me more than

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anything else about this is the fact that there's absolutely,

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it appears, no remorse at all. As a matter of fact,

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this kid's running around quote unquote helping the police. It's

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almost like he thinks it's funny.

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Yeah, he inserted himself in the investigation. It's just so common.

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Yeah, it's so.

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Common because they want to be a part of something well.

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And they want to make sure you don't find evidence, Yes,

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the opposite. Yet where are you at in this investigation?

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And that way they can be prepared. But shout out

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to the owner of this campground that she was able

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to kind of piece this all together just from looking

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through surveillance cameras and kind of seeing his movie.

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Yeah, and I kind of felt bad for her because

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they named the campground. You know, that's gonna be some

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bad publicity, although she had nothing to do with it.

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But really, kudos, like you said, to her, because this

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woman did above what you would. It seems like she

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knows her campsite, she knows her area, and she went

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back and she wanted the answers, how could this happen

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at my place of business. Now seventeen years old and

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out there with his family and feeling comfortable enough to

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manually kill this woman.

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Is in the why, I mean, why would you this?

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This woman, from all accounts was just an amazing human.

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Everybody loved her.

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But she said this campground owner said something, and I

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think it's just so poignant because it's true. No I

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was looking for a stranger. No one was looking for

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a child. But that's what happens. No bad guy for

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the most part. You know, he just said that guy

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looked like a burglar.

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He does. He looks like a burglar now that we know.

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But if that guy had on a collared Polo and

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walked into Walmart, you and I would have thought nothing

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of it.

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I would have thought he was that's a freaking bler right.

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There on that Apple and Orange isle.

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But no, But we look at these people, and for

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some reason, we always think that the bad guys are

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going to look like bad guys.

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And that's why they're.

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So good at getting away for a while with what

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they do, Yeah, disarming people.

474
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:08.599
You don't look at a seventeen year old and think

475
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:09.240
he's going to try to.

476
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:11.279
Kill me, Not that circumstance.

477
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:12.839
For sure, but he obviously hit her in the head

478
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:14.680
because there was that blunt force trauma, and then he

479
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.880
strangled her. So hopefully, in some weird way, I hope

480
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:22.240
that maybe she wasn't conscious and that the terror wasn't ongoing,

481
00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:22.799
you know.

482
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:25.119
While this was going on, And I'm going to do

483
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:29.240
something just before I get into this next story kind

484
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:31.960
of different from what we normally do, because it just

485
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:35.319
occurred to me. I don't know Kelly, and y'all, this

486
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:37.279
is totally off the ka if. Kelly doesn't even know

487
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.240
this is coming, but I don't know. Did you get

488
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:45.519
a chance to see the sentencing for Brian Cobra, Oh

489
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:50.599
you damn right, I did. Okay, did you see the Sister? Yeah?

490
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:51.839
Yeah, well no.

491
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:54.400
The reason I know to say it is because I

492
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:55.680
have a new hero in life.

493
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.079
Oh me too, and it's I love her.

494
00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:59.359
Oh my gosh.

495
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.279
She Okay, here's what we're gonna do for you right now.

496
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:08.880
We're gonna play the sister's full statement. Here's what we're

497
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.759
gonna do. We're gonna play the sister's full statement right now.

498
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.359
You have got to hear this. Yes, it might be

499
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.480
the best. And that's kind of a weird way to say,

500
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:24.079
but it might be the best victim impact statement that

501
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:25.440
I've ever heard in my life.

502
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:26.319
She nails it?

503
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:31.480
Does she nail it? I'll get chi. So uh, you're

504
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.160
gonna listen to this. Now we're gonna go ahead and

505
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:35.680
play it. Here it is Hello.

506
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.200
I'd like to start by thanking the court for allowing

507
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.359
me the time and opportunity to speak today. My name

508
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.240
is Olivia and I'm the big sister of Kaylee gonzalved

509
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.319
blessed to love Madison Mogan as a sister too. I'm

510
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.640
not here today to speak in grief. I'm here to

511
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:54.759
speak in truth because the truth is my sister, Kayley

512
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.480
and her best friend Mattie were not yours to take.

513
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.519
They were not yours to study, to stalk, or to silence.

514
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.799
They were two pieces of a whole, the perfect yin

515
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:15.200
and yang. They are everything that you could never be loved, accepted, vibrant, accomplished,

516
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:20.359
brave and powerful. Because the truth about Kaylee and Maddie

517
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.279
is they would have been kind to you if you

518
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.119
would approach them in their everyday lives. They would have

519
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.200
given you directions, thanked you for the compliment, or awkwardly

520
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.839
giggled to make your own words less uncomfortable for you

521
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:39.240
in a world that rejected you. They would have shown

522
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:47.160
mercy because the truth is, I'm angry. Every day I'm angry.

523
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:51.440
I'm left shouting at the inside of my own head

524
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:56.000
everything I wish I could say to you. The truth

525
00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:00.000
about me is when I heard the news, I didn't.

526
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:04.599
I listened for them. I promised them I would that

527
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.359
I would fight for them, that I would show up

528
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.759
no matter what it cost me. I swore I'd never

529
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.839
let them feel alone, because you see, I've always been

530
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.039
their heavyweight. I've always been the one to fight the

531
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.359
battles they didn't feel ready to fight themselves. All it

532
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.880
ever took was a call, and they knew I would

533
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:28.039
handle it for them, no matter the time, no matter

534
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:31.960
the cost. They could waive their white flag because they

535
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:36.559
knew I would never back down, not for them, and

536
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:41.720
not even death could change that. Somewhere along the line,

537
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:43.680
I started to think about what I would say to

538
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:47.759
them if I was given just one last chance, if

539
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.799
I could gather enough heartbreak or love or sacrifice or

540
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:54.599
whatever it took to get just one message across, What

541
00:28:54.640 --> 00:29:01.079
would I say throughout this entire process. I've written my

542
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:05.200
feelings down at every moment, my wishes, my love, my denial,

543
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:09.240
my anger, and as one final act of love, I'd

544
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:13.440
planned to read these thoughts, even jarring and discombobulating and

545
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:17.319
not even making sense, because for me, that was true love,

546
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.920
as bare and as naked as it could be, not

547
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.359
laced in pretty words or dressed for the occasion, but

548
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:29.039
written through bleary eyes at two am, with clenched fists,

549
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.759
angry at this reality. My true final act of love

550
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:40.160
was to continue on without them, for them, that dream

551
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:43.839
to read love, to read aloud my love to them,

552
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.720
to bring meaning through pain was the latest blow in

553
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:54.920
realizing you don't deserve it, and Kayley and Matty don't

554
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:58.559
need it. Hailey and Mattie have always known my love

555
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.240
and they would never ask me to prove it by

556
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:06.680
further victimizing myself to a defendant who has shown no guilt,

557
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:13.200
no remorse, no apprehension. They would say to me, why

558
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:17.519
would you give the satisfaction of showing vulnerability? Now you

559
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:22.000
promised you would never back down, And for that clarity,

560
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.279
I'm thankful. I won't stand here and give you what

561
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.079
you want. I won't offer you tears. I won't offer

562
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:32.880
you trembling disappointments like you thrive on pain, on fear,

563
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.799
and on the illusion of power, And I won't feed

564
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:46.839
your beast. Instead, I will call you what you are, sociopath, psychopath, murderer.

565
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.039
I will ask the questions that reverberate violently in my

566
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.519
own head, so loudly that I can't think straight most

567
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.359
any day. Some of these might be familiar, So sit

568
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.039
up straight when I talk to you. How is your

569
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:09.160
life right before you murdered my sisters? Did you prepare

570
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:12.599
for the crime before leaving your apartment? Please detail what

571
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.319
you were thinking and feeling at this time. Why did

572
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:22.680
you choose my sisters before making your move? Did you

573
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.200
approach my sisters? Detail what you were thinking and feeling

574
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.720
before leaving their home? Is there anything else you did?

575
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.559
How does it feel to know the only thing you

576
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.960
failed more miserably at than being a murderer is trying

577
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:44.160
to be a rapper. Did you recently start shaving or

578
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:52.000
manually pulling out your eyebrows? Why? November thirteenth, did you

579
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.680
truly think your Amazon purchase was untraceable because you used

580
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.960
a gift card? How do you find it enjoyable to stargate?

581
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:04.400
Was such a severe case of visual Snow? Where is

582
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:09.920
the murder weapon? The clothes you wore that night? What

583
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.599
did you bring into the house with you? What was

584
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:18.039
the second weapon you used on Cayley? What were Kaylee's

585
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:25.000
last words? Please describe in detail the level of anxiety

586
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:27.640
you must have felt when you heard the bear cat

587
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:31.720
pull up to your family home on December thirtieth, twenty

588
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:37.319
twenty two. Which do you regret more returning to the

589
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:42.440
crime scene five hours later or never ever going back

590
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:48.519
to Moscow, not even once after stalking them there for months.

591
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.240
If you were really smart, do you think you'd be

592
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:56.880
here right now? What's it like needing this much attention

593
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:02.759
just to feel real? You're terrified of being ordinary, aren't you?

594
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.079
Do you feel anything at all? Or you exactly what

595
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.759
you always feared? Nothing? If you're so powerful, then why

596
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.599
are you still hiding? Defendant? You see I'm here today

597
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:24.839
as me, But who are you? Let's try to take

598
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.119
off your mask and see you didn't create devastation. You

599
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.799
revealed it in it, in yourself and that darkness you carry,

600
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:37.359
that emptiness, You'll sit with it long after this is over.

601
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:41.079
That is your sentence, and it was written on the

602
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:48.680
wall long before you ever pled guilty. You didn't win,

603
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.400
You just exposed yourself as the coward you are. You're

604
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:58.119
a delusional, pathetic, hypochondriac loser who thought you were so

605
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:05.599
much smarter than everybody else. Yes, constantly scolding, turning your

606
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.880
nose up to grammar mistakes, nitpicking and criticizing others.

607
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:11.440
You wanted so badly to be.

608
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:14.599
Different, to be special, to be better, to be deep,

609
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:18.719
to be mysterious. You found yourself thinking you were better

610
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:21.360
than everyone else, and you thought you could figure out

611
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.960
the human psyche and see through it all while tweaked

612
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:27.880
out on heroin. Lurking in the shadows made you feel

613
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.760
powerful because no one ever paid you any attention. In

614
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.159
the light, you thought you were exceptional, all because of

615
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.119
a grade on a paper. You thought you were elite,

616
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.960
because your online IQ test from twenty ten told you so.

617
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.159
All of that effort just to seem important.

618
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:46.559
It's desperate.

619
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.280
There is a name for your condition, though your inflated

620
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.159
ego just didn't allow you to see it. Want to

621
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.000
be You act like no one could ever understand your mind,

622
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.079
But the truth is your basic You're a text bookcase

623
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:06.360
of insecurity disguised as control. Your patterns are predictable, your

624
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:13.679
motives are shallow. You are not profound. You're pathetic. You

625
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:19.079
aren't special or deep, not mysterious or exceptional. Don't ever

626
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:24.079
get it twisted again. No one is scared of you today.

627
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.280
No one is intimidated by you, no one is impressed

628
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.480
by you. No one thinks that you are important. You

629
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.719
orchestrated this like you thought you were God. Now look

630
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:40.039
at you begging a courtroom for scraps. You spent months preparing,

631
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:42.679
and still all it took was my sister and as sheath.

632
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:47.519
You work so hard to seem dangerous, but real control

633
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:54.480
doesn't have to prove itself. The truth is the scariest

634
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.719
part about you. It's how painfully average you turned out

635
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:09.920
to be. The truth is as dumb as they come, stupid, clumsy, slow, sloppy, weak, dirty.

636
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:14.079
Let me be very clear, don't ever try to convince

637
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.639
yourself you mattered just because someone finally said your name

638
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:18.199
out loud.

639
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.840
I see through you.

640
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.519
You want the truth, Here's the one you'll hate the

641
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:28.679
most if you hadn't attacked them in their sleep in

642
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.199
the middle of the night like a pedophile, Kaylee would

643
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:33.960
have kicked your fucking ass.

644
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:35.880
Thank you, thank you.

645
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.960
So here's what we're gonna do. And of course, all

646
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.280
the victim impact statements desire to be heard. So at

647
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.480
the end of this episode, when we're dumb with it,

648
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.320
I'm gonna go ahead and insert the entire full victim

649
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.079
impact statement from everybody. If you want to lessen, you're

650
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.960
welcome to lessen. If you don't, don't lesson. But I

651
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.159
think they all deserve to be heard. But this girl

652
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.760
right here, what you just heard. If you if that

653
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.480
did not move you in a way that you just

654
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.079
can't imagine, then you're not living.

655
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.880
Yeah, now, really saw you're not breathing. Just in case

656
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.159
you're not familiar with that case. That's the Idaho for

657
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.559
those four college kids that were slaughtered while they were

658
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.280
trying to sleep, ye by by Coburger that broke in

659
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.519
and did these horrible things, and so he took a

660
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.719
plea deal, and everyone, i think for the most part,

661
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.360
recognizes that he's a freaking coward and he didn't deserve it.

662
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:36.039
Yeah.

663
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.639
So when that, I'm gonna say, little girl, because compared

664
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.559
to me, she know she's in her twenties, but when

665
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:44.000
that girl got up there. She she did not stuck

666
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:48.800
to her. She spoke with passion. She looked at him

667
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.199
and she said it with her damn chest. Yeah, she

668
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.960
is the sister that every girl wants.

669
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.000
Yeah, and what really appealed to me, y'all. She was

670
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:02.480
using a lot of psychology. If you know psychology, you

671
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.639
know what she was doing. And he did not like it, No,

672
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.280
he did. He did not like it. At the very

673
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.639
end of what you just heard, when she said, you know,

674
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:16.480
you're lucky you attacked her in her sleep, because she

675
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:21.119
would have kicked your fucking ass. That ate him up

676
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:23.719
because of who he is.

677
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:27.760
Yes, somebody who wants to be somebody so bad, wants

678
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:29.920
people to be afraid of him so bad. And she

679
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.119
looked him in and when I say, said it with

680
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:34.400
her chest, looked at him in his eyes and said,

681
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:36.840
you're still a nobody.

682
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.920
You did all of this, and we're not afraid of you.

683
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:43.159
Yeah, we're not afraid. He's a planning and you left

684
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.639
the sheath. How stupid are you? You know? Because that's

685
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:50.039
what he gets off on. And we won't be be

686
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.639
riddled this point, if that's a word. But uh, he

687
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.840
gets off on the fact that he's smarter than everybody.

688
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.119
And what she did was we call that a good

689
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.960
old fashioned dress down, ye guy, And she told him.

690
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.000
In the South, we say she told him about himself. Yeah,

691
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.480
that's what she did, and damn it was good.

692
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.960
So look, when you're in prison, okay, when an officer

693
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.480
choose you out, okay, And this could be Look it

694
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.039
could change from location location. But when I was in prison,

695
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.599
not locked up, but working there. If someone like if

696
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.400
an officer told an inmate basically how the cali ate

697
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:24.639
the cabbage, we call it.

698
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:26.519
Blow him down, bro, he blew him down.

699
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:31.360
Okay, she blew him the fuck down because she let

700
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.960
him know. There was no I loved it. She said,

701
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.400
I'm not going to give you the tears. I'm not

702
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.159
gonna you know, she didn't cry and say I hope

703
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:37.960
you're miserable.

704
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:39.639
No, she told him about himself.

705
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.079
Yeah, she told him and directly if you she's not

706
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:44.719
listening to this, but I want you to know if

707
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.119
you know her, if you know her.

708
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:52.159
From a from a you know, I bleed America.

709
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.639
I bleed strong women, and I bleed the fact that

710
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:57.800
you look somebody in the eye and you tell them

711
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.280
exactly who they are when they offend you in such

712
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.559
a way and you take such beautiful lives away, kids

713
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.239
that did nothing to you. And she was right, and honey,

714
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.119
you were right, and I believe you your sister would

715
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:10.320
have whooped his fucking ass.

716
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.440
Yeah, yeah, I loved it, amen, And I knew there

717
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.360
was gonna be some sort of explosion from somebody from

718
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.880
that family, and you know, I was glad to see it.

719
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:24.280
I was happy that she handled it perfectly.

720
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.760
It was a controlled explosion that made it so good.

721
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.159
Yes, it was just I'm not going to give you

722
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:32.320
the satisfaction of showing you you hurt me. I'm going

723
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.159
to tell you who you are, who you really are,

724
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.039
which is insignificant. A movie of the week, all those

725
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.360
sorts of things. F BK. That's all I got to

726
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.519
say about it. But we'll get back to what we're

727
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.480
here for. I just wanted to Yeah, you heard to

728
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:49.719
me about that, and I thought it was very important

729
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.400
to mention. But we're going to go to New York

730
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.239
and again, and we're gonna When I saw this story,

731
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.719
I had to verify it three times because couldn't believe it.

732
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.519
A sixty one year old man who suffered critical injuries

733
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:09.920
after being pulled into an MRIN machine while wearing a

734
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:15.280
metal chain has died. The incident, which occurred Wednesday afternoon

735
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.800
at a medical building in Westbury, New York. According to

736
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:24.199
the Nassau County Police Department, officers responded to what's known

737
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:28.039
as Nassau Open MRI following a nine to one one

738
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:32.239
column were informed the man had entered an unauthorized magnetic

739
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:37.039
Resonance imaging room while the scam was in progress. The

740
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:41.039
male victim was wearing a large metallic chain around his neck,

741
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.559
causing him to be drawn into the machine, which resulted

742
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.079
in a medical episode. The man, whose name has not

743
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.800
been released, was transported to a local hospital in critical

744
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.800
condition and he has to comb to his injuries in

745
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:59.840
pronouncedead Thursday afternoon. Now, for those who weren't familiar, and

746
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.440
I honestly wasn't MRI machines use a strong magnetic field.

747
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:09.639
I didn't realize it was that strong in producing detailed images.

748
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:14.599
Patients are advised to remove jewelry and other metal objects

749
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:18.719
prior to getting the scan. Uh Nasau Open MRI I,

750
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:22.039
which has several locations, offered both open and closed scans.

751
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.119
According to his website, and I did confirm this with

752
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.159
someone that actually works in an MRI, and they told

753
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.760
me that it is not common that this happens at

754
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:38.519
all there, and they have a lot of a lot

755
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:44.840
of you know, safety checks. Before. It was shocking to

756
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:48.400
this person this even happened because there had to be

757
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:55.480
a major basic failure insecurity to allow this to happen. Now,

758
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.280
the only thing that she could come up with was

759
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.119
maybe he forgot he had the chain on and they

760
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:02.000
just didn't check.

761
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:04.480
Well, there's an update that actually why we're saying this.

762
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.800
An update just came out, so I'm gonna give it

763
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.599
to you. So the guy's name was Keith McAllister, and

764
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.599
so from what the update is saying was that his

765
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:17.320
wife was actually getting the MRI. She started yelling, Yes,

766
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:20.760
she started yelling out for some reason. He came through

767
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.280
the door. He was told go back, go back, go back,

768
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:26.000
but he went to his wife and that's why he

769
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.480
was sucked into the machine. Now, I have not validated

770
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.440
this again, it just came up on the phone as

771
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.000
a as an update. But it seems like that would

772
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.039
make more sense because look, when I'm gone in for MRIs.

773
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:38.840
They even asked me if I had bobby pins, you know,

774
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:40.000
do you have a wire in your braa?

775
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:40.440
Do you have?

776
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.960
I mean, they've asked a million things. I'm like, shit,

777
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:44.639
don't suck my tits up in them?

778
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.639
Asked me if I had, do you yes?

779
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:55.840
This to me is is heartbreaking if that is in

780
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.760
fact the case, because he heard his wife yelling, you know,

781
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.760
and if and if he ran to say for you

782
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.360
can't say that that's not admirable in some way, in.

783
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.000
Some way, there's no doubt about it. But I did

784
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.079
not realize even Okay, it's a metal chain, but god, dang,

785
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.079
the magnets are that strong. What if it was one

786
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.280
of those big old chain It's like, still you would

787
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:21.079
think he I mean, obviously he can't, couldn't. But according

788
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.039
to the person I talked to, you, yeah, they're that strong.

789
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.039
They would your ass into it.

790
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:27.519
So you it said he suffered multiple heart attacks. I

791
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.079
wonder if it was the stress of it or whatever.

792
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.480
But so, if you have a metal plate in your head,

793
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:32.599
you can't get an MRI.

794
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.840
No, not unless you want your head like damn thing

795
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:41.679
at the top of Yeah, I guess you know, I'm medical.

796
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.719
I don't see how you Yeah, if you could tell.

797
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.480
We're definitely not. But that's a good question. I'm going

798
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.159
to ask that person if you what do they do

799
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:51.159
in that situation.

800
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.719
I guess that's just a different route. Yeah, I guess

801
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:56.840
maybe too, depend on what they're looking for. Also, like

802
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:02.880
MRIs can't be the only way to detect problems, right, No.

803
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:05.119
I will be a really bad But I have a

804
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:06.320
person who I can ask.

805
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.480
Ask that person and right now there's probably a nurse

806
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:08.960
or a tech.

807
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.119
Yeah. God, God, I don't know nothing about him.

808
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:13.280
Ari.

809
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:14.880
Yeah, well talk, don't let us know.

810
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.159
We're gonna poste. We'll post the guy's picture on Facebook

811
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.599
and comment underneath it if you know the answered to uh,

812
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.199
if you can get an MRI with a metal plate

813
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:27.320
in your head, and hey, because Kelly has a metal

814
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:28.480
plate in her head, I need.

815
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.159
A few because I'm hard headed. That's that's probably. But

816
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:33.199
I do want to say this too. You know, if

817
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:34.920
that's true that he was going in and he was

818
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.199
just worried about his wife, my heart goes out, true,

819
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:39.039
my heart goes out.

820
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:40.920
And he probably didn't think that that was going to happen,

821
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:43.159
and neither did she. I wouldn't know either way. The

822
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:44.760
family we really do.

823
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.519
We want to, We want to extend our condolensist anyone

824
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:48.800
they know him, and that that's that's a tragedy in

825
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:49.400
of itself.

826
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:53.159
Now, let's go to Florida. Something always happens.

827
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.400
In Florida, Florida wild.

828
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.320
I love being there. Matter of fact, I'm going there

829
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.159
next week. So this is what happened. Dwayne Chapman, who

830
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:02.320
rose to fame because of his dog the Bounty Hunter show.

831
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.079
He married Francie Chapman in twenty twenty one. If you remember,

832
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.639
Francie was his wife Beth, who passed away from cancer.

833
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.119
That was her best friend. But in a heartbreaking event

834
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:14.880
that unfolded over the weekend, Francie's son, Gregory Zecha, is

835
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:19.360
said to have fatally shot his teenage son Anthony. Hey everyone,

836
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.079
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