Aug. 13, 2026

Crime Wire Weekly 8/14/26 | 800lb Meth Bust, Tupac’s Trial, Flock Camera Debate

Crime Wire Weekly 8/14/26 | 800lb Meth Bust, Tupac’s Trial, Flock Camera Debate
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Season 11

Another packed episode with some wild crime related stories coming your way today! KJ and Jim talk about a missing family found after going tubing. In Louisiana a woman involved in a boating crash with injuries is arrested. The first arrest for grooming in Kentucky has occurred, and it may surprise you, who was arrested. A 23 year old man is sentenced in Indiana for horrific SA of mother and daughter. A Flock Camera Secret Memo is leaked and you are going to be shocked at the contents. In Louisiana a drug bust of an 18 wheeler leads to the discovery of 800 pounds of meth. A doctor is involved in a lawsuit over using his own sperm to artificially inseminate a patient.

Timestamps
01:10 Tubing Trip Turns Miracle
06:26 Boating Crash Charges Filed
11:01 Teacher Arrested Under Grooming Law
17:39 Home Invasion Ends in Sentencing
20:22 Flock Cameras and Privacy
33:11 Wife-Killing Plea Deal
36:44 Fertility Doctor Secret Revealed
43:45 Massive Meth Bust Uncovered
48:13 Teen Kidnapping and Assault
01:00:25 Tupac Killing Heads to Trial

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Hey, everybody, welcome back to Crime Whire Weekly. I'm Jim Chapman,

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and guess what today? We have no topics. We're gonna

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tell you in advance. It was a plan from the beginning.

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That's what I'm sticking with, right, Kelly.

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Jimmy definitely weren't running late.

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Yeah, we definitely weren't running late and had to scramble

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to get together what we were going to.

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Talk about today, and I didn't have time to write

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it down.

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So guess what is going to be surprise week for

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our listeners out there.

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I hope you enjoy that.

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Yeah, it's gonna be fine. We got this. We're professionals, Jim.

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We are pros.

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So let's get into this beautiful bean footage for today.

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And wait, wait, you introduced yourself? Should I introduce myself?

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Well, I said Kelly Jennings. Everybody knows you already got it.

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Go ahead, and I'm Kelly Jennings.

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All right, how did that feel? Awesome?

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Let's get Can we get into the stories now? Let's

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get into them, and we're going to start off in

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Michigan today, and I'm gonna tell you about two adults

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and a child who disappeared Kelly after going tubing. Well,

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they've been found safe and alive in the woods, and

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some people are considering this just flat out miracle. They

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were going for several days. It was two women and

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a nine year old boy. They were tubing and what's

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done is the Muskegon River that is in Michigan, and

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they were there for three days straining in the wilderness

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before they were actually saved. Jasmine Hawk who is twenty eight,

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her cousin, Sarah Vita, who is twenty eight, Vida's son

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who is named Caden, he's nine. They were all located

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this past Friday afternoon by state Police a CA. Nine

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teen in the Department of Natural Resources Servation officers. They

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were discovered deep in the woods about three quarters of

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a mile northeast of a boat launch in Muskegon County.

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This is they were several miles downstream from where they

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actually put in.

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At that boat launch on Maple Island, and.

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Michigan State Police said the three were alive, they were safe.

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He described it as Lieutenant pat Agma described it as

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amazing in a miracle. He netted the group was in

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a remote area, far from roads and houses. He said

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they were tired and worn out, and two of them

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had to actually be carried out of the woods. You

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don't think about it, but seventy two hours, that's three days, right,

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that's a long time without food. And I mean, I

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would imagine they drank something, but it probably wasn't much

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and it was probably out of a stream. And you know,

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they don't have the little capsules you can put in

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there like the military does where it purifies the water.

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So that's a good bit of time they went tubing,

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and concerns started growing when Hawk missed a scheduled medical

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appointment the day after their tubing trup. Her father later

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found one of the women's vehicles still parked at that

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boat launch with a broken window. So obviously police get involved,

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and that doesn't look good. Searchers were covered tubes believed

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to have belonged to the group, and they located footprints

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before they were able to find them on This occurred

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on a Wednesday or Tuesday. They were actually able to

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locate them on a Friday. Family members said the group

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had used pool rafts that were not suited for the river,

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So yeah, these ain't tubing like you go around here.

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We have tiki tubing places like that where they are

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these heavy duty tubes. They were actually taking like their

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pool floats and going tubing with it.

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Yeah, you don't want to do that. That's pretty thin.

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Is that something that's normally done there? Like that? People

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just get in that river like that are actually not

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I mean.

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It says the group had used pull rafts that were

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not suited for the river and the floats were destroyed.

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So I would imagine not too many.

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People, you know, use I don't know, very thin residential

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pull rafts, if you will. So they survived, all flowers,

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barking ants. What do you think about that?

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That's an interesting choice. But I would be scared.

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I'll well, they didn't have a menu, no, but like

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the ants of the bark tonight.

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Well, I'm just thinking I would have focused more on

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the flowers. I don't know that I want to swallow

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an ant, but I mean it's it's something when you're starving.

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I guess it's something to put in your mouth. Yeah, so,

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and I would have been scared too, Like, you know, mushrooms,

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certain ones can kill you. And if you don't know,

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like you're just taking a risk.

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Yeah, you eat a poisonous mushroom you can be seeing

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the spirit horse and everything else.

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Yeah, high as a cake.

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So also to complicate matters even with the lack of food,

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is that Hawk's foam battery died and that totally cut

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off any way to get any sort of help. All

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three they were picked up after they were found taking

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the hospital for treatment, and two of the three are

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still in the hospital. But everybody's going to survive all

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that stuff, and it was an emotional moment for family.

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They actually have some body camera footage if you're interested,

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you can look online and it's pretty interesting.

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You can see.

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The the husbands and kids of these people being reunited

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with them, and you know, they probably resigned to the

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fact that they're not gonna make.

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It out of here.

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I do wonder something, and I'm not I'm just curious.

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Why didn't they just walk back up the river where

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they had put in? Why did they.

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Well, I think they were so far down river by

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the point that you know, apparently the as I said,

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these boat rafts popped or whatever and probably jagged rocks

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things like that. Yeah, I mean, maybe they were making

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their way back and got lost.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what the terrain would be. But for me,

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I would have gotten out and just back the direction

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I came from. But then again, I don't know all

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the details.

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You did. You didn't end up and can it though somewhere.

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I probably would have ended up with third degree sunburns

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and you would have found me a crispy piece of

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bacon laying by the by the riverside getting eaten by

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dad gumbe deer.

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Yeah, bark, Well, there you have it.

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Good ending to that story. They were found and that's

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to be Okay, that's great.

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So we're gonna go to Louisiana. We're not far from here.

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We're actually right here in this story where a sixty

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three year old Denim Springs woman has been arrested and

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booked into the Ascension Parish Jail on multiple charges stemming

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from a three boat crash on the a Meet River

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in July that left four people injured. And that's all

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according to the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. Nanette

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Normand that's a lot of ends, Nanette Normand I can't say.

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That quickly, is it Nanette or Nannette?

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I would have said Nanette, But I'm Southern South, so

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whatever miss Nan was taken into custody Monday and charged

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with cares operation of a vessel, failing to file an

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official operator's report, and four counts of negligent injuring. The

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crash occurred July eighteenth, where two adults and two juveniles

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were ejected from their vessel and transported to local hospitals.

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An adult female remained hospitalized from injury sustained in the incident.

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According to Wildlife and Fisheries, careless operation of a vessel

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carries a maximum penalty of a three hundred dollars fine

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and thirty days in jail. Each count of negligent injuring,

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and the failure to file an official operator's report carries

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a maximum of a five hundred dollars fine in six

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months in jail. Earlier reporting on the July eighteenth crash

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described the collision involving three boats around eight twenty pm.

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One family, a couple and their two young children, were

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ejected after what the husband described as an oncoming boat

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that failed to yield properly. The fiance suffered or sustained

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serious injuries, including multiple fractures and other trauma that required

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surgery and hospitalization. Wildlife and fisheries investigated the incident. But

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three boats in one crash.

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That's a lot.

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And you know, boating safety Unfortunately, when you hear about

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crashes with boat boats, I mean.

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It's usually really bad.

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We have one here a couple of years ago that

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killed several people and it was at night that this

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boat crash occurred, and it was horrific obviously, But almost

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every time you see accidents involving boats, people are seriously

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injured or killed because it's just different than a car.

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I mean that you don't wear a seat belt in

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a boat. Of course, everybody needs to be wearing life

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preservers things like that, but traffic laws are you know,

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it's a lot easier to stop at a red light

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than to or yield sign yielded a yield sign than

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to do that on a river because they don't have signs.

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You have to know the navigational rules, and I think

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that's why you see a lot of these accidents. It's

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people don't even roll, don't even know or pay attentions

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to the navigation rules.

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Yeah, there's a lot that goes involved, that goes into

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you know, being a captain of your boat, and I

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sometimes get very nervous when I see that. A lot

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of people like they'll turn out their teenagers and stuff

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on the river and let them just go take the

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boat and go do it, do what they do. And

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you wonder why is everybody so comfortable just letting people

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go out on that river without some sort you know,

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we have drivers at and we have all that kind

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of stuff or when you're driving, but boaters it's kind

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of like they just uh, jump out on the water.

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Yeah they do.

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So, you know, prayers to those affected by that. And uh,

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they're not playing in this area with boating safety. They've

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got a whole department in Livingston Parish where we record

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out of that is a marine division. It's all they

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do is go up and down the river and there

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they are a department. Uh I guess employed by the

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Sheriff's office, so it's not wildlife and fisheries. They have

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their own marine division, which I think is pretty cool.

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Well, my my brother in law was killed in boating

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accident and it was because there's a lot of stuff involved,

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but another boat was not properly navigating the waterway. Yeah,

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and he ended up dying as a result of that accident.

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And so you know it's personal. You know when people

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you love get killed. And boating is a fun pastime,

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but you are you have a lot at stake and

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you you have to be in control and man your

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vehicle or you can cost people their lives one hundred percent.

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And I used to couldn't stay in them wildlife and

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fishery guys because I used to look at them as

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guys that were just killing your fun. Right, Yeah, you

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ain't got a life jacket on. Let me see your

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life jackets, you know what I mean, stuff like that.

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And now as I got older, this is when I

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was eighteen, I had this attitude. Now, as I got older,

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I realized what they were doing. But back then I

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just thought, you know, these guys are just giving people

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a hard time. I mean, who cares about life jackets.

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But now you know, when you especially when you do

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this for a living cover crime, Yeah, wear your life jackets.

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All right, let's go to uh, let's go to a

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another area of the country here, and we're going to

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talk about a middle school teacher who is the first

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and this is in Kentucky, the first teacher to be

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arrested under the new grooming law in Kentucky, and that's

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interesting because here in Louisiana, they just passed the grooming.

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Law here and we just covered that.

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Yeah, we just covered it.

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So this is a good example of a case where

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this law was used. I'm going to tell you about it.

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Graves County Middle School teacher Sadie Flores, who is twenty five,

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was busted Friday and charged with grooming a minor four

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years after marrying her husband, who is a machine operator,

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and only a year after giving birth to their first child,

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which is her daughter. As a matter of fact, she

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had a Facebook post where she put, we are so

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grateful God chose us to be parents of the sweet baby.

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So the reason I bring that up is you just

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never know who people are, sometimes person on Facebook and

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a whole other person in reality. This is allegedly a

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good example of that, if all these charges are true. Now,

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so what happened here was police said that she attempted

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to manipulate a minor and expressed feelings of love and

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admiration more so than a student teacher relationship. That's what

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the citation read. Police have not revealed the alleged victim's age,

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but school board officials were contacted by a parent of

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a fourteen year old, so they're making the assumption this

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person was fourteen.

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The parents said that they had found text.

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Allegedly shared by Flores and the child, and they were

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deemed not to be of a legitimate purpose and were

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not school related. The educator and the student also met

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in secret before a school function outside of school that

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she was not directly a part of that, according to

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the Graves County Sheriff's office. They also allegedly had late

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night FaceTime calls that the parents were not aware of,

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according to police, so it's not clear how long Floras

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in the child were allegedly messaging before she was actually arrested.

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Flores has been charged.

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With grooming a minor under a law that took effect

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there in Kentucky on July fifteenth, and the law allows

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cops to charge predators before sexual assault occurs. Teachers must

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also take part in sessions focused on preventing grooming. It's

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not clear when she will appear in court, and it's

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not clear she's enter a plea yet, but it is

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clear that she's in a lot of trouble and yeah,

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it's a very pretty twenty five year old lady.

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Let me tell you what this right here? Everything that

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you've said that allegedly has taken place in that article

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is absolutely grooming, because there is no reason whatsoever that I,

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as a teacher, share my cell phone number with a

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with a student, especially a student of the opposite sex.

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You know, back in the day, maybe you know, fifteen

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twenty years ago, if they were in a you know,

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you were a coach of them or something like that.

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And you need to be in contact with your kids

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so you could find them whenever you get to the

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schools and stuff. But we have too many programs today

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in twenty twenty six, there are too many applications that

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are provided to teachers for a communication forum that is regulated,

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monitored and will keep you out of trouble and we'll

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make sure that everything is on the up and up.

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There's different platforms for that, and it is preached to

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teachers do not have personal contact with the student. And

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I'm going to tell you something else. I can't think

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of any reason that a teacher outside of school late

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at night needs to be facetiming a child a student.

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Why would you need to be facetiming a student when

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you're up to exactly There is no reason. Yeah, facetiming

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them now if.

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Meaning you're wanting to see them on or show them.

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Or show them something. Yeah, it's totally inappropriate. And if

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I was on my phone facetiming a kid, and I

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don't know what grade she taught, but even if it

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was an older kid like my husband would find that weird.

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Why are you facetiming that kid? So that tells me

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that that was done. Also, I doubt the husband had

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any concept of any of this going on. And it's

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a beautiful example allegedly until we go to court here,

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but it's a beautiful example of that potentially saving a

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child from, you know, a situation that would have been

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out of the parents' control.

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Fourteen year old.

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Yeah, and you know there's a picture. You can look

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up their pictures online if you want to. If you're

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watching this on video, you're seeing the picture. But looks

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like a I mean, she's got a handsome husband, got

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a young baby. There faces blurred out, which it should be.

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I agree with that, but just looks like a beautiful

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young family. You're starting off your life together, and miss

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girl is grooming allegedly a fourteen year old boy. Now,

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until I got familiar with this article, you know, I wondered.

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I'm like, these grooming laws are going to be kind

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of hard to prove because you've got to prove someone's intent, right,

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and sometimes it's hard to prove someone's intent unless you

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have stuff like this. In her case, they've got proof

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that she was texting and saying I love you and

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stuff that's obvious grooming. And that is where this law

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really comes into play and is really going to be

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something able to stand up in court when you have

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a paper record of it, you don't, you know, I

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think it's great in that case because you don't actually

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have to have sex to get charged.

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With something, nor should you, And I think that the

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law is great. There should be a high standard here.

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There should be a you know, it should meet the

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muster of egregious because that's what grooming is. You know,

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it's leading to something that's going to be horrendous. So

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if she was overcharged, I'm hard pressed to believe it

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based on what I'm reading on the report, because I

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just can't understand any time that you would be texting

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a child like this that you're not their coach, it's

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not your event that you're or it's not like a

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school event and the kids trying to figure out where

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to go. Oh, you know, I can remember years and

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years and years ago, you know, twenty years ago, when

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you're teaching kids and you'd go to a like a

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sporting event where kids drive themselves because they're seniors, and

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you're like, hey, guys, meet behind the library because we're

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all gonna be over here to take pictures and whatever.

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And I totally get that, but because of stuff like this,

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there's no excuse. There's no excuse. And I guarantee she

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probably signed paperwork too at the beginning of the school

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year that there is an electronic policy between you as

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a teacher and students and there is not to be

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communication on any forum except the approved applications through the

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school board. So you knew better, no way, all right,

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So this this case is actually kind of a follow

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up to when it first broke. But we're going to

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go to Indianapolis, where a twenty three year old man

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has been sentenced to seventy six years in prison after

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pleading guilty to child molestation and rape in connection with

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a twenty twenty four home invasion on June twenty ninth

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of twenty four, police were called to a home after

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receiving a report of a rape. Responding officers made contact

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with a woman who said that both she and her daughter,

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who was twelve years old, so both mom and child

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had been raped at gunpoint. As a mom, to think

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that that would only not only be happening to me

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in front of my child, but then to be helpless

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while it happened to your child in front, you know,

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in front of each other, that's just beyond. But they

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had both been raped at gunpoint. She stated that a

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masked man later identified as Tesshawn Gardner, came to the home,

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showed her his gun and told her to let him in.

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Gardner then raped her and asked if she was alone.

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After looking at family photos on the wall, Gardner reportedly

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walked down the hall to the woman's daughter's room and

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raped the child at gunpoint. He filmed both attacks on

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his cell phone. Gardner stayed in the home for about

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an hour, according to the reports, and two other children,

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ages one and eight, were also in the home at

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the time. W xi in reports. Police tracked down the

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suspect using cameras and arrested him during a traffic stop

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and an interview, Gardner was asked if he had any

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tattoos and told authorities he had one on his stomach.

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Authorities confirmed it matched the description given by the victims.

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He was charged with nineteen counts of rape, child molestation,

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and sexual battery on August sixth. He pled guilty to

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one charge each of rape and child molestation was sentenced

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to thirty eight years for each charge.

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I almost felt like he should have got more than that.

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That's aggravated rape of a child on the age of thirteen.

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That should be on death run.

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That should be it should be at least life in prison,

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I mean for each count. And it said, you know

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he's not getting aide.

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Yeah.

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I never say never, Yeah, because I have seen people

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get out that you would never think would.

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But thirty eight years on each count. He's got nineteen counts.

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So if you do the math, that's what six hundred

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years something like that, which is essentially a life sentence.

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Yeah, but he only pled guilty to one charge each.

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Right, But they're not nineteen separate charges.

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Yeah, it's not very clear on here. If he played well,

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if he only.

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Got thirty eight years total, that's not enough for that.

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In my opinion.

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But you see that a lot with these you know,

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these sexual assault cases that are not murders, that.

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Plea deals are.

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Worked, things like that, and sometimes that's where you land unfortunately.

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All right, let's talk about Flock cameras scaling.

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All right, So for those of you.

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Not familiar with this, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you

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a scenario that has occurred. A paper has been written

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about this, but there's a huge debate. And Flock is

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a brand that makes cameras that can read license plates. Okay,

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so Flock cameras are not specific cameras per se. There

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are several different companies that make these digital license plate readers,

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and Flock is one of the companies that offers contracts

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to police departments and things like that for this. But

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Flock is the biggest one, and they are the one

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causing the most controversy, especially here in Louisiana right now,

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because law abiding citizens almost consider this harboring or creating

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an issue of my privacy and privacy laws. So we're

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going to talk about it, but I'm going to give

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you an example of where a LKED document reveals that Flock,

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the surveillance company, planned to tap roughly three hundred and

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fifty thousand ride share drivers for data collection. So Flock Safety,

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which is the company behind a nationwide network of automatic

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license plate readers, they pitched a plan and they basically

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went to Uber and Left and they said, look, we

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want to put Flock camera digital readers on every Left

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and Uber driver that will agree to it and will

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kick it and a little money for that or whatever,

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and we want to create a database of license plates. Okay,

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like your state government would have, but Flock would have

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this data private company.

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Okay.

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So the document which was written which was leaked by

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written rather by a guy named Joseph Cox, described equipping

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drivers with dash cams capable of scanning license plates along

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their route, effectively expanding flocks network beyond its usual fixed

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cameras mounted on poles.

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So right now it's just poles with a solar camera on.

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The top that is reading these license plate The presentation

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centered on a proposed partnership with Netsar, which is a

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maker of dash cams, biggest maker in the world probably,

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And so they were trying to partner with them and say, hey,

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when you make dash cams, I want this software automatically

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installed and that way, we can just build a database

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of everyone's license plate, whether they're law abiding or not.

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And this has created a little bit of an issue,

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but there was a lot of issue before this, just

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on flock cameras in general. Now, and Kelly ot, I'll

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let you go and talk about your feelings on it,

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and then I'll kind of tell you my feelings on

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it because I'm back.

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There's some ways I like it and there's some ways

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I don't like it.

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Well, I think that the first hang up that people

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have is why, like, why do you want to collect

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that data? And I don't find that to be one

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thousand percent clear on exactly why you want the data,

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which makes people nervous. Why do you want it? However,

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there's already you know, city buses and things like that

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that are equipped with cameras and footage that are going

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to record your move you know, your moveabouts through through

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this city and all of that. Now, I'm not sure

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that those are necessarily logging you by license plate or not,

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because I don't know. But I mean, you don't have

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a right to privacy out in public, Okay, So I

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think that this comes down to what exactly the argument's

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going to be about is the argument that there's too

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much control and too much ability to track and follow people.

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Well to that, I would counter your cell phones tracking

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everything you do every second, down to the you know,

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down to the letter of your movements, and you're being

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tracked by all sorts of things. So again, I think

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this kind of goes back to the question of what

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is that data collection for? And I would want to

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know more about that specifically before I understood, you know, like,

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what are the ramifications from it and why and what

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is the limit? Is there a limit? Is are there

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rules to why this data collection is done? And I'm

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not well versed enough in the law or in the

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long reach goal of the flock cameras and that regard,

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I do like the flock cameras in so far as

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if people are stealing or if we we have people

475
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that are on the run that we can read license

476
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.160
I do like that we can read the license plates. Kidnappings,

477
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.119
Silver alerts, Amber alerts. There's no doubt that it helps

478
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:10.240
to solve crimes. Matter of fact, the case that I'm

479
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.039
going to cover next week on Unspeakable, that's going to

480
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:16.480
come into play as to solving a very horrific murder.

481
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:17.839
So there's pros and cons.

482
00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.279
There certainly are, and that's why I go back and

483
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:24.079
forth on it because of cover cases. Where were it

484
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:27.519
not for license We'll say license plate readers, because Flock

485
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.400
is just a brand. There's several different brands out there.

486
00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:35.079
But were it not for those license plate readers, kidnapping

487
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:38.519
suspect wouldn't have been caught before something horrible happened. That

488
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:43.279
happens all the time with these cameras. I think the

489
00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:46.960
issue is and where some people would maybe debate you

490
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.880
on the cell phone theory, because I agree with that

491
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.920
as well. I think the major difference is they can't

492
00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:00.799
track you from sitting in a location, you know, in

493
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:04.559
a police department. Okay, we'll just say that they can't

494
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.640
track your phone from just sitting there. But if you

495
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.839
have Flock cameras, they can literally pick up your entire

496
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.519
route to and from without you ever knowing about it.

497
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:18.720
You know, they would have to download your cell phone

498
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.200
to figure out where you've been.

499
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:22.440
For most people.

500
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.319
Now, if you're a law abiding citizen, a lot of

501
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.559
people say, who cares, I don't care if they follow

502
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:32.440
me all day long, But you're really staunch constitutionalist people

503
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.559
consider it a violation of privacy to be able to

504
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:39.720
follow you everywhere. Now, my argument to that in some

505
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.240
ways was, I mean they could get behind you and

506
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:43.480
follow you on the road.

507
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.799
You know, we've done surveillance for years.

508
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.960
What flock cameras do or any sort of camera like

509
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:50.279
that is you just make it easier.

510
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:51.559
They make it quicker.

511
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.119
But I mean the FBI for years has been sitting

512
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.039
outside people's apartment and watching.

513
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:58.920
Them, you know, and following them everywhere they go. Ask

514
00:26:58.920 --> 00:26:59.480
some mafia.

515
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:04.599
So the thing here is that if maybe the look

516
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.279
this is huge, Okay, this is a big thing. We

517
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:08.519
can't sum it up obviously in one minute talking about

518
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.880
the topic. But if there was a level of clearance required,

519
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.640
like you probable cause to be able to access said information,

520
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.000
that would be kind of where this would need to

521
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.640
be going, because you shouldn't be able to just flagrantly

522
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:27.160
follow somebody about because what could happen there is I'm

523
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:29.359
just saying, what if it got into the wrong hands

524
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.359
of the wrong person who then says, well, it was

525
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:34.119
open access at my job, I wasn't breaking any rules,

526
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.559
and then they're following and stalking somebody that you never

527
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:38.000
know what people are doing. You know, it just could

528
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.400
open up doors. So like so like in a police unit,

529
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.200
I know rules in law, you know everything everywhere is

530
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.279
different every state, but like locally, there's no reason to

531
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:50.359
be running people through through your system unless you have

532
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.880
a reason within the scope of your job to be

533
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:57.640
doing so. There's already rules in place. Police officers don't

534
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.920
need to be searching Trump in the you know, in

535
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.160
the system in the vehicle. It's gonna flag it because

536
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.720
why are you looking up somebody that you're not having

537
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:08.319
an interaction with, or if anybody for that matter, big

538
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.640
profile names. There's already systems in place for people of

539
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.119
higher stature. I guess you could say in security com

540
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.240
place for everybody exactly. So you know, it should meet

541
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.680
the muster of in the scope of your job, you

542
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.960
have probable cause or a reason to be doing so.

543
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:31.720
It's not just an open access database for anybody. I

544
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:33.640
think it's a tool just like anything else.

545
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:38.599
But you know, I'm not exactly sure what the law

546
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.440
is here in Louisiana, but I can tell you there

547
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.839
are several states, many states in fact, that you can

548
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.880
run license plates as a police officer. Just Willie Melly,

549
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.440
you can go into parking lot and literally run every

550
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.640
license plate in that parking lot just see if they

551
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:58.599
have warrants, and if it shows up, they have a warrant.

552
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.200
Now you now, you can't stop somebody.

553
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.359
You can't run a license plate and note this person's

554
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.680
doing nothing wrong, they're driving down the right, and then

555
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.200
stop them. But you can run the plate to see

556
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.440
if they have warrants, and then that gives you the

557
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:12.279
probable cause.

558
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:14.880
Yeah, but you don't know if that's who's driving that

559
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:15.440
car either.

560
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:17.839
So but you know that is the law in many

561
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:19.440
states you can in fact do that.

562
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.200
Well, I'm going to state I'm going to tell you

563
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.039
that every state's we know this, every state's different.

564
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:26.680
So what's the law here?

565
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.119
I'm telling you what the policy here was. Last time

566
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.200
I was in the position was that you've got to

567
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.440
have a reason to be running a plate on You've

568
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:39.200
got to have a reason to be doing it. If not,

569
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:42.319
why are you in Because the database is intended for

570
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:48.319
criminal apprehension or for verification of no warrant or something

571
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:50.440
like that, or driving under a suspended license or something

572
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.480
like that. So why would you run the plate unless

573
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.960
you had a reason to be running the plate. Now,

574
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.960
if you know that Joe Blow, you believe Joe Blow.

575
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:00.920
There's an investigation that he was involved in an armed

576
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.240
robbery and drove a blue car and then you're in Walmart,

577
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:05.799
then you have probable cause. But but to just be

578
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:08.079
running plates, I don't know why you would do that,

579
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:09.680
Like I do. I don't even know why someone would

580
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:10.279
want to do that.

581
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.200
There are a lot of states where they do it,

582
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.279
and they would literally go in a parking lot and

583
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.880
run plates until they find someone at warrants and then they'll.

584
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:20.480
Basically pick them up.

585
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:23.839
That might be may be legal, but policy is what

586
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:25.960
I'm going to follow as far as an agency goes.

587
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.000
So maybe that was a you know, maybe that was

588
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.960
a certain Maybe they have a certain I think it

589
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:31.720
was Colorado.

590
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:33.359
If I'm not mistaken, then I read that.

591
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.000
About it might be, but maybe they haven't a task

592
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.799
force or something where they are out and being proactive

593
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.480
and they're looking to try to clear up and close

594
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:44.400
some cases. So you know, there's a lot to it.

595
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.039
But flot cameras in general, you're you're on camera multiple

596
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.400
times a day. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

597
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:58.079
So yeah, but being on camera multiple times a day

598
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:02.839
doesn't track you. There's a difference when you're on camera

599
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.400
multiple times a day because you pass a bank or

600
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.079
you pass someone's you know, someone happened to be on

601
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.200
the road with the dash can. There's a difference between

602
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.440
that and being able to track somebody's movements. Once that

603
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:17.559
thing takes a picture, it's in the database and they

604
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.400
can literally track you for a year.

605
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:21.319
But it would depend on I'll never see you. It

606
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.079
would depend on where the flock camera though, was stationed.

607
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:25.880
But in this case, they're wanting to put them on

608
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.680
all these cars, so it's constantly moving about.

609
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.119
Oh yeah, and in Baton, Richie, if you got over

610
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:35.039
one hundred, over one hundred, you can go to dflock

611
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.680
dot org and you can actually see where every flock

612
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:43.880
or driver license plate reader is because what it is

613
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.960
is it's regular citizens. It's a nonprofit that when they

614
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.920
see the cameras, they actually log in the coordinates.

615
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:55.480
To this d D whatever it is, deflog dot Com,

616
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:56.200
Gota way.

617
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:58.920
I just want more information on what it's going to

618
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.480
be used for and what is what are the stipulations

619
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:04.359
in what are the protections in place for this? And

620
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.799
I feel like there we're not getting enough of that information,

621
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:11.880
and so I would give pushback for those reasons. This

622
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.079
is going to probably become very big, much bigger than

623
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.000
it already is, because it does bring about a lot

624
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.359
of questions of why am I being tracked and why

625
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.279
would you have the authority to do so? Just because

626
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:23.799
it does.

627
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:26.039
And law enforcement is always going to have a different

628
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.799
perspective because they're out there enforcing laws. So you know,

629
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.359
if you ask someone that's in law enforcement, Okay, if

630
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.960
you weren't in law enforcement, how would you feel about this?

631
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.359
Their opinion may be different. They may be like, you know,

632
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.559
you know what, You're right, I'm a law abiding citizen.

633
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.359
I don't want people to know where I'm going. It's

634
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:42.079
none of their business.

635
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:43.079
Well, and then it also.

636
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.240
On the other side of that, why would they care?

637
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.240
But like, what if you were frequenting like a gentleman's

638
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:49.960
club and you didn't want people to know that, or

639
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.440
what if you were frequenting some kind of in some

640
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.880
kind of place that you know, that's your private life.

641
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:57.680
Wherever you're going is legal and you have a right

642
00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.480
to be there and all of that. But then now

643
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.440
it's like, well, what if you were in a certain

644
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:03.640
position that if that information got out, it might would

645
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.759
affect your job or your you know, how you were

646
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.839
re seve because your marriage or your marriage. Really though,

647
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.839
so we shouldn't be tracking people for sure for morality reasons.

648
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:19.720
I mean, we don't legislate morality, Jim. How many spouses

649
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.039
should someone get away with killing before we raise an eyebrow?

650
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:24.279
Probably one?

651
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:26.480
Just get away with one.

652
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.440
I mean, get away with I thought you meant how

653
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.000
many people should they actually kill?

654
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:31.720
I don't know.

655
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.559
Yeah, It's just my point is that that shouldn't even

656
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.440
be a question. I'm asking. That's so bizarre. So Yolanda

657
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.519
Morodi pled guilty to manslaughter in connection with the stabbing

658
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.599
death of her husband in two thousands. This is like

659
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.960
a brutal a stabbing death. She was sentenced to ten

660
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.599
years in prison, was released in November of twenty thirteen.

661
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.240
On August the fourth, she pled guilty to fatally stabbing

662
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:57.039
her second spouse, Rebecca Morodi, on February seventeenth of twenty five.

663
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.839
The couple had been married for two years, and Rebecca

664
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.920
had recently sought to leave the marriage. According to an

665
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:07.240
arrest warrant obtained home surveillance footage captured a blood covered

666
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:12.119
Rebecca Morodi being chased by Yolanda, saying, Yolanda, please, I

667
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.679
don't want to die. That's a quote end quote, and

668
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.400
she responded with you should have thought of that before.

669
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.639
Rebecca repeatedly asked Marodi to dial nine one one before

670
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:26.039
the couple went back inside home. Surveillance footage showed Morodi

671
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.920
leaving the residents. About ten minutes later, she placed several

672
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.960
items into her car and then left. Rebecca was found

673
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.519
by her mother inside the couple's home dead from multiple

674
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:38.440
stab wounds. Approximately seventy five minutes after killing her wife,

675
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:41.960
Marodi crossed the border into Mexico. According to the San

676
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.559
Diego County District Attorney's Office, She then sent a text

677
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.159
the following day that said, quote, Becky came home and

678
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.480
told me she was leaving me. She met somebody else.

679
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.239
All the messages were lies. We had a big fight

680
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.519
and I hurt her. I'm sorry. Marodi was arrested on

681
00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:00.599
March twenty second of twenty five in Mexicoli, mec and

682
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.320
She was then transferred to the US by the marshals

683
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.159
through a US port of entry and booked into jail

684
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.920
on suspicion of murder. She then, on August fourth, plaged

685
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.079
guilty to second degree murder and admitted that she used

686
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.400
a knife to kill her wife. She entered a plea

687
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.719
deal that lowered the charge from first degree to second

688
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.679
degree murder, and the district attorney, Jared Coleman, said the

689
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.079
deal was a consideration of many factors, maybe the most

690
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.800
important of which was the desire of the victim's family foreclosure.

691
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.360
Rebecca had served as a firefighter since nineteen ninety two.

692
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:33.960
She had been promoted to captain in twenty twenty two,

693
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.679
and she also served as the caretaker of her elderly mother.

694
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:41.320
According to her obituary, at the age of seventeen, Becky

695
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.519
answered a different kind of calling the fire service. With

696
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.480
unwavering dedication and bravery, she embarked on a career that

697
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.840
was more than just a job. It was her passion.

698
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.519
Becky's commitment to protecting others, and her fearless spirit made

699
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.960
her a respected, an admired member of the firefighting community,

700
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.320
and it continued saying that she faced every challenge with

701
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:03.360
strength and grace. She will be remembered for her infectious smile,

702
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.320
kind heart, and the way she always put others before herself.

703
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.760
Her love for her family and her friends was boundless,

704
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.920
and her impact will never be forgotten. Morodi is scheduled

705
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.880
to be sentenced on September second, and she faces thirty

706
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:17.599
six years to life in prison.

707
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:22.440
Well she deserves every bit of that sounds like to me.

708
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.920
Stabs two spouses to death.

709
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.440
Yeah, yeah, they married the wrong woman.

710
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:31.400
My god, and she doesn't look I know we always

711
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:34.360
say this, but she just doesn't look like what you

712
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:35.000
would expect.

713
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:42.840
What would you expect? Yeah, that's the question. Horrific, terrible, horrific.

714
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:47.239
Let's go into Wisconsin and a Wisconsin mother and her

715
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.119
adult son have sued a retired fertility doctor, and they

716
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.000
allege he used his own sperm to impregnate her without

717
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:59.599
her knowledge or consent more than forty years ago.

718
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:01.039
Can't make that up?

719
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:03.559
Wait say it again? Who he impregnated his own mother?

720
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.079
I'm gonna tell you the story. No, not his own model.

721
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:06.880
Sorry.

722
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:11.239
A Wisconsin woman and her son are suing an obgyn

723
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.360
they claim used his own sperm to impregnate her.

724
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:20.360
Oh the doctor, Okay, sorry, that's all right, punctuation matters.

725
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:23.880
Without her consent and potentially other patients The complaint was

726
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.800
filed in Milwaukee County Circuit Court by Mary Ellen Luzak

727
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.719
and her son Joseph in nineteen eighty the twenty five

728
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:34.840
year old Marianne.

729
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:36.239
At that time, she and her.

730
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:40.000
Husband Thomas, they were trying to expand their family, right,

731
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:43.639
So they go do what you would do in nineteen

732
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.519
eighty and they went to anbgyn. And this is at

733
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:51.199
the early days of fertility studies, right, And they talked

734
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:55.280
to doctor Frederick Deetman, and he says, hey, there's this

735
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.639
new thing out. It's called artificial insemination, and we can

736
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.679
use your husband's sperm, or rather you sperm from an

737
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:08.880
anonymous donor. And so this anonymous donor that they were

738
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.440
able to choose was a medical student. They didn't know

739
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:14.440
his name, but apparently I didn't know this. But you

740
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:18.760
can kind of choose the type of individual you want.

741
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.599
I will I want someone that's tall. Well I know

742
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:22.519
that now, yeah, but.

743
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.519
It's because a friend of mine told me she's they

744
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:25.840
did this.

745
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:27.239
Yes, I know someone that did this.

746
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.960
Wis factors that would make and her goal was I

747
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.599
want my children to look like my husband. And so

748
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:34.480
that's how she chose.

749
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.199
Yeah, I have a very good friend that just had

750
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.719
her daughter just had a baby.

751
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:40.840
And that's how they did it.

752
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.559
They did like a six foot four, blue eyed man,

753
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:45.239
you know.

754
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:47.400
Yeah, why not?

755
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:53.000
So anyway, they go, this is nineteen eighty and they

756
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:57.119
start doing artificial insemination, and as as typical, it doesn't

757
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.719
work the first few times, and they keep going back

758
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.719
and eventually, in nineteen eighty two, Marianne does in fact

759
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.920
become pregnant, and she gives birth to a baby Joseph

760
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:11.519
the following year. But decades later, in twenty twenty four,

761
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:16.239
things took an unexpected turn when Joseph he does what

762
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.519
everybody's been doing these days that have really been telling

763
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:24.599
the tale, if you will, of what people were doing

764
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:27.239
in the eighties, because Joseph says, I'm going to go

765
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.119
to ancestry dot com and do a DNA thing, you know,

766
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:31.000
I'm gonna track my.

767
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.000
Heritage and all that stuff.

768
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.239
He does that, and guess what he finds out His

769
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.360
biological father is the doctor.

770
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:39.719
Yeah.

771
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:44.079
So it also revealed multiple half siblings and other family

772
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:47.400
members who he had never even known existed. Right So,

773
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.960
according to the attorney, deep Men never told deep Man

774
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.440
being the doctor, never told this lady Hey, I'm gonna

775
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.480
use my sperm to implant in you. And of course,

776
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.320
at this point in time, she's feeling pretty violated. She

777
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.320
didn't you know, yes, she chose an anonymous donor, but

778
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.480
you don't if you don't specifically tell the doctor I

779
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:10.519
want your sperm.

780
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:14.960
Uh. It seems like this doctor was shady, right, Yeah, it's.

781
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.599
A one sided Uh, it's a one sided secret. And

782
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:18.599
that's not fair.

783
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:23.079
Well, And she chose a specific person, you know, she

784
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.639
didn't know his name, but she chose this medical student,

785
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:28.719
whoever this person was. That's why I want this doctor

786
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:33.719
put it put it on himself to impregnate this woman.

787
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:37.559
And basically she had his baby. And in addition to that,

788
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.320
they are thinking that she had something or he had

789
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.840
something to do with other pregnancies as well.

790
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.039
Now, yeah, but it's.

791
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.800
It's interesting that ancestry dot com and one two three

792
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.599
meters or whatever it is. Man, they are really busting

793
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.360
some people. There's some people out there that have kids

794
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.760
that aren't really their kids, and they're not finding out

795
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.559
until these kids are adults. And they're basically going and

796
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:04.679
doing these genealogy tests and finding out their daddy ain't

797
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:06.840
their daddy and then Mama's like.

798
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.280
What, I don't know what you're talking about.

799
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:14.199
Yeah, you never You never foresaw that twenty years ago,

800
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:18.119
that that you could literally just send your blood off

801
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:21.000
in the mail to a company and they can come

802
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.960
back and show you a family tree based off of

803
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.559
everybody that's done that same DNA test.

804
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.320
Yeah. I would have questions about this about whether it

805
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.679
was that she chose one person and he switched it

806
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.880
with his, or did he have his profile in there

807
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.880
that he was a medical student whenever he filled it out.

808
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.840
No, No, the doctor intentionally inserted his sperm.

809
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:47.360
No, I'm not doubting that. What I'm saying is I

810
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:49.880
wonder if he had been a sperm donor and had

811
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.440
filled out his like that was his donor card, and

812
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.280
then he eventually went on and became a doctor, and

813
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.239
so he knows what he's doing is wrong. But what

814
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.079
I'm saying is, I'm wondering if he's going to try

815
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:00.760
to get away with it by saying, well, no, that

816
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.360
was actually my card. That was actually I am a

817
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:06.000
sperm donor. I just never told her that she had

818
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.360
chosen me. If I was a defense attorney. You understand

819
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:09.960
when I'm saying that.

820
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.639
I don't think that's even in the realm of public.

821
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.760
Okay, if he was a medical student.

822
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.760
What you're saying, get what you're saying. I'm saying, I

823
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.840
don't think that's even in the realm of possibility of occurrent. Well,

824
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.719
I don't know how they get here was the doctor

825
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:25.360
and he gave her.

826
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.559
I don't know how they do their database, Like I

827
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:31.760
don't know if a certain fertility clinic has certain donors

828
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.039
that only they use, like at that clinic, or if

829
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.920
it's like a national database and they can nail it him.

830
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.920
It seems like it has to be fresh. I don't know.

831
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.440
I've never looked into this, you know, the rules and

832
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:43.880
regulations of how that's done. I'd be interested to know, though,

833
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.679
but i'd be pissed because if it's supposed to be

834
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.199
an anonymous donor, that's supposed to be a two way street,

835
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:53.480
and this is not anonymous. If one side knows the secret.

836
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:54.519
Yeah, that's the problem.

837
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:58.119
That's I think that's the major issue, aside from the fact, Hey,

838
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.719
this doctor could have been five foot two ugly, and

839
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:03.840
maybe this lady was. I'm not saying that, but you know,

840
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.239
people look at looks and Heck, if you can choose

841
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.320
your kid and know exactly what they're gonna look like,

842
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.000
you're gonna pick what you find attract if everybody's gonna

843
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.239
do that, and this this guy may not been in

844
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:18.119
I don't know.

845
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.000
I don't know either, but when your kid ends up

846
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.559
looking like your doctor, it's like, wow, y'all really looks similar.

847
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:26.800
Yeah, well, there you have it. And you know this

848
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:29.280
lady's still alive. It's not like she's.

849
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:31.199
Dad.

850
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:33.800
I mean, she knows that this all took place, and

851
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:35.679
her son is now a grand man. I'm sure she

852
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.440
loves him very much, totally.

853
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.360
And I would still feel violated as well. I think

854
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.159
she has a legitimate, a huge leg to stand on

855
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:42.920
here and say.

856
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:44.840
That this is Yeah, they're gonna get some money out

857
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:45.440
of this, and.

858
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.400
They should right here. In Denim Springs, a Russian nationalist

859
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.320
was taken into custody after Livingstone Pairs deputies discovered nearly

860
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:59.599
eight hundred pounds of methamphetamine concealed inside an eighteen wheeler

861
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:04.320
during a traffic stop on Interstate twelve. Eight hundred pounds,

862
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.639
my goodness. So the living spar Sheriff's Office K nine

863
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:11.119
Division conducted the traffic stop in Denhim Springs, and deputies

864
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.840
identify the driver as Anton raycoff Is how I think

865
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.960
you would say the middle name. I'm not even gonna try.

866
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:22.920
It's like valte velitch vy Daliavich either way, and he

867
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:28.039
was described as a deportable Russian national. Raycov was taken

868
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.960
into custody due to his immigration status. A subsequent investigation

869
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:36.960
into the tractor trailer led LPSO Narcotics to approximately three

870
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.960
hundred and fifty eight point fourteen kilos or seven hundred

871
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.719
and eighty nine and a half pounds of meth concealed

872
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.440
inside the trailer. The Sheriff's office described the seizure as

873
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.280
one of the largest meth seizures in Livingston Parish and

874
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:53.280
Louisiana history. The investigation is still ongoing. Raycoll remains in

875
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.559
ice custody and they're still checking into this. And you

876
00:44:56.559 --> 00:45:00.119
can see in the pictures just bricks of this and

877
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.440
stacked up. Our sheriff. I think he's sixty three.

878
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.800
That's a sheriff. Forward's about six.

879
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:09.039
He's a tall fella. He's standing next to it and

880
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.920
it is way up there, and it's two layers deep,

881
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:13.119
two rose deep.

882
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:14.079
Yeah, oh, yeah.

883
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:19.760
And I actually talked to several individuals today at LPSO

884
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:24.400
about this bust. And it's interesting that this guy was

885
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:29.239
a Russian national, but this the these drugs came from Mexico,

886
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:33.159
so it was a cartel bust. Obviously, when you have

887
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:38.199
that much, I mean, your regular meth lab in yeah,

888
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.079
you know somewhere tim buck Too is not going to

889
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.199
produce eight hundred pounds at one time.

890
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:44.119
And it's packaged nice.

891
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:46.880
It's like, well, yeah, And that's what I was going

892
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:49.360
to get to is when you look at the picture,

893
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.000
it looks like a stack of silver bars.

894
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.000
So when I initially.

895
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.280
Saw that article, I thought they had, for whatever reason,

896
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.199
repossessed like eight hundred pounds of silver. And I was

897
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.400
going to hit up the sheriff and say, hey, how

898
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.039
do I buy that? Can I buy that at like

899
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.039
fifty percent off or something? I'll bring you in a check.

900
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:10.760
I mean, it looks exactly like silver bars, but that's

901
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.519
how they package this stuff. They wrap it a certain way,

902
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:17.119
and how you know, you know, each cartel actually packages

903
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.639
these differently. There's actually markings on this stuff to identify

904
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.800
what cartel's from, which is crazy to me because you're

905
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.599
you're it's an illegal drug, and so you're like basically

906
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:34.320
branding your own form of uh you know, heroin or whatever,

907
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:38.079
you know, meth in this case. And uh so, but

908
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.880
I'll tell you what eight hundred pounds, So a kilo

909
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:44.320
is two point two pounds. So I think they had

910
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:48.039
this broke down in kilos and it was just a

911
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:51.039
massive amount. What is that, you know, seventeen close to

912
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:52.079
seventeen hundred.

913
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.920
Pounds or something. You always ask a math amount or seventeen.

914
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.360
Hundred kilos a ton of a ton of mouth.

915
00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:59.920
It's funny that you say, you go to the actual.

916
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.960
Bill serious about it. What I was.

917
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:03.760
Gonna say, it's funny you go to the actual math

918
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:05.440
and I'm trying to describe it to him, And how

919
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.079
tall the sheriff is, how tall the sack.

920
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:12.840
Well, you know, in all seriousness, there's no telling how

921
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.360
many lives that saved. In all seriousness, all joking aside,

922
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.480
that is one serious addicting drug.

923
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:21.559
I don't, thank.

924
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.039
God, know that by experience, but I know people that

925
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:28.159
have suffered, you know, being addicted to it, and it

926
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:32.880
is horrible. And so you take eight hundred pounds off

927
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.400
the street, you've done some good.

928
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:38.599
And this guy better pray to his maker that he

929
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.840
remains in ice custody because there is a cartel that

930
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.000
is going to end him whenever.

931
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.280
Oh yeah, I thought about that too.

932
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:49.679
I'm like, you know, whoever, because at first I thought

933
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.400
it was a rushing cartel and I'm like, when he

934
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.960
gets back, Putin is going to be pitched.

935
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.079
But apparently he's getting deported.

936
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.840
You know, he'll eventually get deported back to Russia because

937
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.079
that's where he's from. But the Mexican cartel.

938
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:07.119
Has got to mount form for sure.

939
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:09.719
Yeah, that's a lot of that's a lot of stuff

940
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.679
to dope to get busted with in the cartel to lose.

941
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.519
But I don't feel bad for him either. Good job

942
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.480
Lpso for another another bust man. They've had some big

943
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:24.840
ones lately. All right, let's go to Florida and I'm

944
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:28.000
gonna tell you this is just a wild story right here.

945
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.639
Got up by the name of Brian Rosado. He played

946
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.880
guilty to kidnapping, sexual battery of the victim younger than eighteen,

947
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:40.840
and seventy five counts of possession of child sexual abuse material.

948
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:44.599
So for this he gets sentenced to twenty five years

949
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:49.760
in prison. After accepting a police deal. Absolutely disgusting. Despite

950
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.840
Florida's sentencing guidelines, which they're usually pretty tough on this stuff,

951
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.239
the guidelines recommend a minimum sentence of four hundred and

952
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:01.360
thirty years, he gets twenty five years. His sentence will

953
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:05.679
be followed by fifteen years of probation, and he'll obviously

954
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.079
have to be required to register as a sex offender.

955
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:08.920
Whoop.

956
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.000
He he should be in prison the whole time for this.

957
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.280
But to tell you what happened, this guy approached a

958
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:20.320
group of teenagers at an apartment complex and he offered

959
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.079
one of them twenty dollars to buy him food at

960
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:26.199
a nearby burger king. When a thirteen year old girl

961
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:29.639
returned with his order, he grabbed her from behind, forced

962
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.400
her into his car, and he just drives off. He

963
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:35.480
drives this girl with this girl for several hours, just

964
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:39.119
around town. He eventually takes her to a neighborhood that's

965
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:44.320
under construction, and he sexually assaults her. At one point,

966
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.719
she rolls down the window and screams for help before

967
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:50.639
he stopped her from escaping and locked the doors and

968
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:57.840
windows and continued this assault. Investigators identified him after receiving

969
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.000
a tip and matched both as vs vehicle and cell

970
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:06.440
phone to the victim's account. The investigators later recovered twenty

971
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.480
videos depicting portions of the assault, so he was video

972
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.000
in this entire thing, along with dozens of files that

973
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:18.920
were identified as child see SAM material from his cell phone.

974
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:24.320
Before accepting the plea agreement, the judge questioned prosecutors about

975
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:28.199
the significant difference between the recommended sentence and the negotiated

976
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.679
plea deal. So even the judges looking at this saying,

977
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.440
I mean, he's at a minimum should get three to

978
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:36.239
thirty years, and y'all give him twenty five years, the

979
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:40.159
prosecutors tell the judge the victims supported the agreement because

980
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.519
it spared her the mental and emotional anguish of testifying

981
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:46.119
a trial. And that was an interesting thing for me,

982
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:49.039
because until I got to that point in the story,

983
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.079
you know, I was like, this is crazy. In this case,

984
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:56.760
apparently the victim did not want to testify and was

985
00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:00.960
begging prosecutors please do whatever you can to make a

986
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:04.280
deal with this guy. And I can certainly feel for

987
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.679
her and understand why she would feel that way. Defense

988
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:12.840
attorney Gabriel Biggs also said that Rosatto's lack of a

989
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:18.000
criminal history. His apparent remorse is how that was verbalized,

990
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.199
and decision to plead guilty without requiring the victim to

991
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:26.320
testify justified the sentence. Under Florida law, he does have

992
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:30.039
to serve eighty five percent of that sentence before becoming

993
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:31.480
eligible for release.

994
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:36.000
This I have to tell you. Prosecutors have a job

995
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:37.760
to do, and we would love you know, you'd love

996
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.320
to throw the book at him. We have society, is

997
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:40.400
what I was going to say. But we would love

998
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.039
to throw the book at him and give him the max.

999
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.960
But there is something to be said about the victim

1000
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.239
ultimately being the one that feels like justice was served

1001
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:50.800
and that they got out of it what they wanted.

1002
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.480
And so if the victim desperately did not want to testify,

1003
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:04.320
and there's a lot of pressure to not have that happen,

1004
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:09.039
I guess. I guess it's hard to argue with the

1005
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:12.360
family of the victim if they say this is, this is,

1006
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.480
we would really really like to spare them. I don't

1007
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.440
understand the massive decrease though. Why was it decreased? I mean,

1008
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:22.719
you have video and stuff too. I don't know.

1009
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:25.280
Maybe that he wouldn't agree to it unless it was

1010
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.400
twenty five years and anything over that.

1011
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:29.079
Maybe, well that's not what they did.

1012
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.719
I know, But I'll tell you my feelings on this,

1013
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.920
and I want to preface this with I totally understand

1014
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:39.960
whether the young lady's going through, not what she's going through,

1015
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.039
but where she's going with this, and that in that

1016
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.719
she doesn't want to relive it, she doesn't want to testify.

1017
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:51.760
I hate plea deals in sexual assault cases period of

1018
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:57.480
any kind. Absolutely hate them, and I don't like Okay,

1019
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.719
there are a lot of cases that I have covered

1020
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.920
where if the victims did not want a plea deal

1021
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:05.159
and the prosecutors made plea deals. Happens all the time

1022
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:09.119
because the prosecutors justify it by saying, well, the victim

1023
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.320
doesn't know the law, they don't know how to prove evidence,

1024
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.679
they don't understand our cases a little bit shaky. We're

1025
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.079
the experts here, and we don't want to take a

1026
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.159
risk of going to trial and not getting a conviction.

1027
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.480
This guy's willing to cut a deal. All those things.

1028
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:29.400
Okay, but you here's a situation where you let the

1029
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:33.599
family have to say, and then there's situations where you don't.

1030
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.360
I think it should should just be one way or

1031
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:36.679
the other.

1032
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.559
Either you gonna let the families decide, or you're gonna

1033
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:41.159
let the court system decide.

1034
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:44.159
Picking and choosing. The picking and choosing is where I

1035
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:46.519
have an issue with it. Well, if you.

1036
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:51.119
Have video of this guy doing this, you've got enough evidence.

1037
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.639
You don't even need her to testify. Why she got

1038
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:55.000
to testify? You got a video?

1039
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:58.039
Well, I mean I think it's deeper than that. But

1040
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.000
what was the maxim centis? Though it was twenty five

1041
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:02.719
thirty years? No, no, no, I'm.

1042
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.880
Sorry minimum sentence had they not cut a.

1043
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:08.719
Deal, So twenty five years and he's got to serve

1044
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:12.719
eighty five percent of the twenty twelve, So about twenty years?

1045
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:13.360
And how old was he?

1046
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.880
I mean, it doesn't say Kelly, what does that have

1047
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:18.360
to do with.

1048
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:20.400
Well, I'm trying to see what if they're what I mean,

1049
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.360
if they're just a under looking guy looks to be

1050
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:24.199
in his twenties. Well, what I'm saying is that I

1051
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:28.800
don't know if their justification was that he would be forty, well, yeah,

1052
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.239
that's not That's what I'm trying to get at, is

1053
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.960
that he doesn't even look like he's Yeah, I know what.

1054
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:34.239
You were trying to say you were trying to say

1055
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.199
if he was eighty, yeah, then I mean that's a

1056
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:36.840
life sentence.

1057
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.960
But I don't like it.

1058
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:41.000
I don't either.

1059
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:41.519
I do.

1060
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:45.239
I understand, I understand it, but I don't like it.

1061
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.440
And but obviously, you know, this is just an article.

1062
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:49.880
We don't know all the ins and outs, and we

1063
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:53.320
don't know other information or what that might affect.

1064
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.639
It seems like they had enough evidence with videos and

1065
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.079
text and all these things that we're talking about. You

1066
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.920
didn't need her to tell I try to get a conviction. Yeah,

1067
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:04.400
if you got a video the guy sexually assaulting her,

1068
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.000
I mean that's even better than to does it say.

1069
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.199
The video was her actually sexually assaulting Was it just

1070
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.280
the video of the attack, like when he kidnapped her

1071
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:12.199
and drove around.

1072
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:16.760
Twenty videos depicting portions of the assault. Twenty videos.

1073
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:21.039
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But I'm never

1074
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:23.079
going to stand here and say they just screwed up,

1075
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:25.480
because I don't think there's there's got to be something

1076
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:26.400
that I don't.

1077
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.599
Know that just can I just screw up.

1078
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.239
I just would be hard pressed to believe that. I mean,

1079
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:37.360
this is Florida, you know, Florida, is very tough on

1080
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:39.360
this type of stuff, So not.

1081
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:42.639
Every prosecutor in Florida isn't lazy. I look at this

1082
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:45.519
as lazy prosecution. That's what I look at this as.

1083
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:49.320
Believe me, there's prosecutors out there, Kelly, that are burnout

1084
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.519
and they cut plea deals all the time they shouldn't cut.

1085
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.119
And listeners out there right now are like.

1086
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:54.519
He's right.

1087
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.199
Well, I don't know about that. I didn't jump to

1088
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:59.239
that conclusion at all. I feel like it seems like

1089
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:02.239
it to me. It just seems like they were maybe

1090
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:06.599
so sympathetic to the victim that if the victim was

1091
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.760
happy with that and it was a guaranteed, I don't

1092
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.320
know that it's late. See, I'm very empathetic to a victim,

1093
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:13.920
So I look at it from the lens of if

1094
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:16.000
they were like, look, if he gets twenty five years

1095
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:18.119
or more, we are happy. We don't want to put

1096
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:19.880
our child through this. We don't want her to have

1097
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.360
to relive this. She's already traumatized, she's already not wanting

1098
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:24.199
to go to school, she's already not wanting to have

1099
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:25.679
relationships with whatever.

1100
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:30.239
Then you'd Kelly, he's gonna get out and he could

1101
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.400
do that to someone else. He could be, so they

1102
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:35.960
don't get to choose when a sex offender gets out

1103
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:37.239
and does it to someone else.

1104
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.880
Yeah, but you're also a That's what pisses me off. Yes,

1105
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:43.360
I'm saying he's gonna I know, I know.

1106
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.679
But what I'm saying is the assumption that he's gonna

1107
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:47.360
do it again, which I agree he would do it again,

1108
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.480
But the assumption of that. I cannot put on the weight,

1109
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:51.760
put that weight on the shoulders of a thirteen year

1110
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.480
old girl and say you we got to do this

1111
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:56.679
for the future person. I mean, we're dealing with your victim.

1112
00:56:57.440 --> 00:56:59.920
You were the victim here, and I just do really,

1113
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.079
if this was a we don't know the condition of

1114
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:06.159
that kid either, that kid this could have absolutely just debilitated.

1115
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:10.280
Oh I'm sure did so a normal kid, no condition would.

1116
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:14.920
But you are allowing allowing this person to make the

1117
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:18.719
decision on whether this guy stays in prison for life

1118
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.679
or gets released, Especially a thirteen year old, you're not

1119
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:25.920
gonna want to. They don't understand the ramifications of if

1120
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.960
he gets out. I don't believe sexual predators can be

1121
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:32.440
rehabilitatd can't we know that? Okay, Well, he's a sexual predator.

1122
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:37.880
Yeah, but there's also you know, there's also he's got

1123
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:41.239
to serve the eighty five percent twenty years. He's you know,

1124
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:43.760
he's guaranteed to be in there for the twenty years.

1125
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.079
And we also don't know that if there's any other

1126
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.079
pending if there's any other pending cases against him, that

1127
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:52.599
maybe they're looking at the long gala.

1128
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:56.639
You're speculating specular assuming there's not, because nowhere does it

1129
00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:57.159
say that.

1130
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:01.280
But if there was, but it could be part of

1131
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:03.400
the long term game. I'm just saying, there's got to

1132
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:05.280
be more to this. I just would be hard pressed

1133
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:06.719
to believe there were, Like twenty five sounds good.

1134
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:08.679
I mean, when the judge is sitting there saying, you

1135
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:10.519
sure you want to do twenty five years?

1136
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:14.000
I know it's three hundred and thirty years minim.

1137
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:16.280
You sure you went, and they're sitting there saying, oh, yeah,

1138
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.159
she didn't want to testify, Well prosecute it without her testimony.

1139
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.760
You got enough evidence here. This is lazy pride, This

1140
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:24.599
is my opinion.

1141
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:28.119
I understand that you don't want to believe that, but

1142
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.159
if you got that many videos and you've got all

1143
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.519
this other sea sand material on his boy's phone.

1144
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.440
People have been found guilty for assault.

1145
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.800
Just because it says assault twenty assault videos doesn't mean

1146
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:41.480
that it's the sexual part of it. He could have

1147
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:43.800
been slapping her, he kidnapped her, that's part of all

1148
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.920
of that. So I don't know what the videos actually depict,

1149
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:49.800
and so they may feel like she's got to testify

1150
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.480
to the sexual component of it to meet the mustard

1151
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.280
to get the three hundred and something years, And that's

1152
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:59.239
what I'm getting at here. So without her testimony, Without

1153
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:01.800
her testimony, I think that they feel like they would

1154
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:04.760
have a damaged case to get that much of a sentence,

1155
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:06.119
is what I'm saying.

1156
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.480
We don't know, We don't know, and I don't know

1157
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:10.400
what they You're right, I don't know what they had

1158
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:15.000
on the videos. One could infer that there was I mean,

1159
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.239
some of the actual sex involved in this sexual assault

1160
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:22.360
that were on those videos, because obviously that sort of

1161
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:24.000
thing turned this sicko on.

1162
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:26.880
Yeah, just like the other guy that filmed when he raped.

1163
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.599
The mom and the daughter exactly, and he agreed to

1164
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.719
the twenty five years, So he must have thought they

1165
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.239
had enough evidence that if he didn't agree, he was

1166
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.519
going to go to jail for at least twenty five years.

1167
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.440
I just I just could have fifty. It just seems

1168
00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:42.400
lazy to me. Fifty seems lazy to me.

1169
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:47.199
I just don't like plea agreements on sexual assault cases

1170
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:51.599
unless there is just absolutely no evidence, and this, to

1171
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:54.480
me seems like they had enough evidence.

1172
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:56.480
I've seen people get convicted with LUs.

1173
00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:59.599
I agree, I agree, all right.

1174
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.920
Sorry, I got passion on that one. I don't like.

1175
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.320
Good. Passion is good. You know. Ted Nugent in a

1176
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.519
video of a big video like years ago, he said,

1177
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:10.960
I don't like repeat offenders. I like dead offenders. And

1178
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:13.159
I will never forget him saying that because it kind

1179
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.880
of fits here. I don't like sex offenders. I like

1180
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:19.599
dead sex offenders, you know, because there's no there is

1181
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:21.239
no way that you're going to ever make me feel

1182
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:24.360
okay about offending a child like that. None. All right,

1183
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:30.119
So I did you listen to Tupac Hawk's music? Yeah, yeah,

1184
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:33.039
I did too. I grew Yeah, I grew up with Pack.

1185
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.719
I liked him. I know I'm Pop.

1186
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:37.480
I grew up with Pop.

1187
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.800
I did, and I will admit that I am.

1188
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:44.119
As friends call him, Pac, not Tupac Popp man, I

1189
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:46.840
get it hugging on my mama from a jail cell.

1190
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.280
My point is that that the loss of him affected

1191
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.159
people that really did like his music and thought that

1192
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:56.880
he was talented. And so this case of Tupac Shakers

1193
01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:00.400
killing has been unresolved for decades. But now well, the

1194
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.239
man that is charged in his nineteen ninety six killing

1195
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.519
in Las Vegas is going to trial and I'm looking

1196
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:09.000
forward to this one personally. Keithds This is Dwayne Davis,

1197
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.039
sixty three, faces one charge of murder with a deadly

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01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:15.039
weapon with the intent to promote, further or assist a

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01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:18.880
criminal gang in Shakur's death. Jerry's selection begins Monday, with

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01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:22.639
the trial scheduled to last about a month. The trial

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01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.119
will bring to head one of the biggest mysteries in

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01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:28.159
the hip hop world that gripped the public for decades. Shakur,

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01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:31.039
who also went by the stage names Tupac and Macavelli,

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01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:34.320
is considered one of the most influential rappers of all time.

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01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:37.800
Shakur was shot in Las Vegas on September seventh, nineteen

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01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.320
ninety six, and he was in a black BMW with

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01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.159
music mogul Marion Shug Night on their way to Club

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01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:46.280
six sixty two, where Shakur was scheduled to perform, when

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01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:49.840
a white Cadillac pulled up beside them, gunfire erupted. Shakur,

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01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.000
who is the passenger or in the passenger seat, was

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01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:56.239
shot multiple times and died six days later. While Night survived.

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01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:59.280
The case went cold until recent years when public statements

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01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.480
in a tell all memoir from Davis revived the case.

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01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.800
He was the leader of Southside Compton Cripps at the

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01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:08.679
time of Shakur's death. Davis was arrested in twenty twenty

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01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:12.639
three and pled not guilty, And so far we know

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01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:14.360
that the trial is going to take place in Clark

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01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:18.320
County District Court in Vegas with Judge Carly Kearny presiding

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01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:20.960
over the case. Jerry selections Monday. That's going to take

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01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.800
a couple of days. Inside the courtroom, seats for the

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01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:25.840
public will be in short supply, and they're going to

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01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:28.880
do a daily lottery to allow you the chance to

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01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.239
go in. A room on the second floor of the

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01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:33.119
court will be open to the public and will show

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01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:37.840
a live feed of the trial. Shakor's cousin I know,

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01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:41.679
was among the family and supporters outside the courthouse Monday morning,

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01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:45.320
and he's saying, you know, justice needs to be served

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01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:48.480
and whoever had anything to do with this, whoever set

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01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:50.199
it up, whoever had a hand in it, should be

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01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:54.079
locked up and in prison. The trial likely won't answer

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01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:57.360
who pulled the trigger because prosecutors are not arguing that

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01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.559
Davis is the one who actually pulled the trigger that night,

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01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.360
and it's gonna confront so it won't confirm that. But

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01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:05.559
they're still going to go through all of this expected

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01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:07.800
to testify. They say thirty five to forty five witnesses,

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01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.079
and there's a whole lot here that you can go research.

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01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:13.480
It goes on and on and on. But celebrities could

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01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:16.480
be at the trial and called into this and we'll

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01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:17.199
see where it goes.

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01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:20.559
I'm gonna break it down for the people out there

1241
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:27.480
just quickly, because I have studied this case for years

1242
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:32.239
and so it is of almost everybody's belief in existence.

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01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:39.000
A baby Lane, who is Keifyd's nephew is actually the

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01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.440
one that killed Tupac. Now you may know, or you

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01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:46.519
may be familiar with a Las Vegas fight after the

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01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:50.039
Mike Tyson fight where Tupac Shug and a bunch of

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01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.920
these guys from Death Row Records were leaving the fight.

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01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:57.079
They see Baby Lane inside of the I believe it

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01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:00.559
was the Mirage, or it might have been the Grand

1250
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:04.239
in Las Vegas where that fight was held. They got

1251
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.360
in a fist fight Tupac did with him in the

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01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:11.159
lobby of that casino because he was wearing a death

1253
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:16.280
Road chain that was stolen by one of Tupac's friends

1254
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.800
that was in Death Row Records. Tupac sees this, Hey,

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01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:22.800
that's the guy that stole the chain, goes over there.

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01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:24.400
And they get to fisticuffs.

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01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:28.320
It gets basically Baby Lane gets stomped out by the

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01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:33.119
whole crew and Tupac Biggie leave. They're headed to Club

1259
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:37.400
six two to six. I think it's called or something somewhat.

1260
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:38.519
To that, sixty six y two.

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01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:42.480
They're headed to Club sixty six two and they get

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01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:44.960
shot at a red light. And what happened was two

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01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.559
girls pulled up. Tupac's hollering at him outside the car, hey,

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01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:54.519
what's up? Follow us to the club, and basically these

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01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.639
guys pulled up and just started shooting. Now everybody in

1266
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:02.400
that other car is at this point in time, Baby

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01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:04.639
Lane was actually killed. A couple of days later in

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01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:05.360
a gang fight.

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01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:07.280
Uh and there were.

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01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:10.599
Two other people in the car aside from who's on

1271
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.039
trial right now KEFD, and those other two people are

1272
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.960
also dead. KEFD is the only one alive. They do

1273
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.519
not think that he shot Tupac. They think he gave

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01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:23.360
the gun to his nephew and said you're gonna handle this.

1275
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:27.400
And look, Baby Lane was about it. He said give

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01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:31.559
me that gun and he shot too. Allegedly he shot

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01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:35.519
Tupac and Biggie I mean and uh not Biggie, Tupac

1278
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:41.960
and Chug And so this is this is prosecution really

1279
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:47.039
for the direction that KEEFD gave Baby.

1280
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:48.280
Lane on this killing.

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01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:52.800
And in the book, yeah, he talked to Davis. Alleges

1282
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:56.199
in the book that it was Diddy who wanted night

1283
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:57.199
in Chakoor dead and.

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01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:59.920
He offered everybody in my podcast.

1285
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:00.920
Money to kill them.

1286
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.440
So two million dollars yea, I believe it was or

1287
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:04.159
a million did.

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01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:06.840
He's denied obviously any of this did. He just hasn't

1289
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:07.599
done anything.

1290
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:11.000
You ask him, no, he says, that's all bs. He

1291
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.400
doesn't admit to it. But he not only said that

1292
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:16.159
in his book, he also went on a very popular

1293
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:19.840
podcast that a guy that he basically podcasts all.

1294
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:20.760
The rappers out there.

1295
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:23.320
He went on his podcast and talked about it, and

1296
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:25.840
the reason he talked about it was he had a

1297
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:30.440
profit agreement that was in place during all of this

1298
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.480
because they were trying to get to the bottom of

1299
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:35.639
who killed Tupac. So at the time, when all these

1300
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:37.840
people were alive, they were trying to get Keithy Dee

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01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:41.679
to tell them. They worked a profit agreement with him

1302
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:43.840
where whatever he said.

1303
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:46.519
He could not be prosecuted for. But when he was

1304
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:48.199
on these shows, he assumed he was.

1305
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:51.320
Still under that profit agreement and he wasn't, and he

1306
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.719
went and talked about it. In the case of the book,

1307
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:55.920
his defense for that is he said he had a

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01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:57.440
ghostwriter writing that.

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01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.840
He didn't write it. He never said it, the ghostwriter

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01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:01.079
wrote it. That may be.

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01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:03.360
I mean, I don't think that Keithy d really sat

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01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:06.039
down and wrote a book, so that may be really

1313
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:07.840
true that he had a ghostwriter. But who do you

1314
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:11.960
think told the ghost Yeah, I mean, so we'll see

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01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:12.480
what happens.

1316
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:13.480
It is a big case.

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01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:17.119
Uh, But unfortunately, the person who really killed Tupac, in

1318
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.880
the belief of just about everyone, is already dead and

1319
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:26.360
won't face justice at least through our earth. He'll face

1320
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:28.800
it from Jesus Christ. If you're a believer like I do,

1321
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:32.599
he's gonna face that justice. But uh, they have it

1322
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:35.039
all right, Kelly Jennings, I think that's a right for today.

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01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:36.760
I had a good time. These were some good stories.

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01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:37.880
We'll have to keep following up.

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01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:43.280
Thank you to everyone for listening, supporting Shiv his podcast

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01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.480
wherever you hear it, and uh, until next time, I'm

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Jim Chapman and I and we're your host of Crime Week.