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Sept. 17, 2026

Crime Wire Weekly 9/18/26 | Embezzled Football Funds,Deadly Train Push,Love Triangle Tragedy

Crime Wire Weekly 9/18/26 | Embezzled Football Funds,Deadly Train Push,Love Triangle Tragedy
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Season 12
This week on the CWW Jim and KJ bring you the crime news headlines and they start with a California high school football booster treasurer accused of draining more than $411,000 from the team that trusted her with the books—money prosecutors say went to a mortgage and credit cards while she sent the board cooked reports. In Massachusetts, three jurors from the Lindsay Clancy trial break their silence after the mistrial, walking through the 11–1 deadlock, the holdout who admitted reasonable doubt and still would not vote not guilty by reason of insanity, and the evidence that left the rest of the panel convinced she had snapped. In St. Petersburg, a woman pumping gas is set on fire by a stranger after she refuses to hand over cash; Eleanor Crawford now faces attempted murder and arson. And in Chicago, a 15-year-old girl is charged with first-degree murder after police say she and two others pushed Kyle Bickham from a moving CTA Red Line train.

We also take you inside You Can See Everything, the surprise documentary that followed Elizabeth Holmes in the weeks before she reported to prison—and the questions it raises about whether the Theranos founder has changed at all. A retired Pennsylvania priest is accused of stealing about $740,000 from churches, parishioners, and his own mother. Kim Zolciak’s 15-year-old son, KJ Biermann, is in custody on serious sex-crime charges his family says he denies. In North Carolina, a state trooper is indicted for first-degree murder after a love triangle with another cop ends with a sheriff’s captain dead in a front yard. A Swamp People star is booked in Louisiana on felony theft after a raid in Bayou Blue. And a former Colorado crime-lab analyst is sentenced to 10 years for manipulating DNA data in hundreds of cases—work that helped vacate at least one murder conviction and left sexual-assault files gutted.

In Overtime: a Baton Rouge woman’s mugshot takes off online; the hunt continues in California for a father and his 14-year-old daughter after a newborn is found dead on a roadside; Georgia police want a man they say snuck into a stranger’s hot tub, spent more than 10 minutes “intensely interacting” with a rubber duck, and rode off with a pile of towels; and in Sacramento, a woman who reported months of stalking—AirTags, a copied apartment key, a restraining order—is gunned down in a parking lot by the man who would not stop.

Theft, fire, a train platform, a jury room that never quite closed, and a few stories that sound made up until the charging documents land. A New episode of crime wire weekly is up now!

Timestamps
03:00 HS Football Treasurer Steals 411k From Team.
09:00 Lindsey Clancy Jurors Speak Out.
16:00 Florida Woman Charged After Setting Stranger on Fire.
19:00 Girl, 15, Charged With Pushing Man From Train.
22:22 “You Cannot See Everything” Focuses on Elizabeth Holmes.
37:11 Preist Steals 740K From Church, Mother.
48:44 Kim Zolciak’s Son is in Deep Trouble.
54:45 Police Love Triangle Leads to Murder.
59:13 Swamp People Star Arrest in Louisiana.
01:02:11: Hunt Continues For Dad and Daughter in California.
OVERTIME
01:11:11 Baton Rouge Woman’s Viral Mugshot
01:14:00 Crime Analyst Manipulates DNA.

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Hey everyone, welcome back to CrimeWire Weekly. A look at

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the topics and we start with a California high school

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football booster treasurer accused of draining more than $ 411, 000 from

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the team that trusted her with the books. Money prosecutors

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say went to a mortgage and credit cards while she

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sent the board cooked reports. In Massachusetts, three jurors from

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the Lindsay Clancy trial broke their silence after the mistrial,

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walking through the 11-1 deadlock. The holdout admitted reasonable doubt

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and still would not vote not guilty by reason of

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insanity in the evidence that left the rest of the

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panel convinced. She had snapped. We're going to cover all

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of that in St. Petersburg. A woman pumping gas is

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set on fire by a stranger after she refuses to

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hand over cash. Eleanor Crawford now faces attempted murder and

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arson in Chicago. A 15-year-old girl is charged with first-degree

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murder after police say she and two others pushed Kyle

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Bickman from a moving train. We also take you inside

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You Can See Everything, the surprise documentary that followed Elizabeth

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Holmes in the weeks before she reported to prison and

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the questions it raised about whether the Theranos founder had

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changed at all. A retired Pennsylvania priest is accused of

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stealing about $ 740, 000 from churches, parishioners, and even his own mother,

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Kim Zolciak. Her 15-year-old son, K.J. Beerman, is in custody

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on serious sex crime-related charges that he denies. And are

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you familiar with Kim Zolciak?

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I know who that is. I just don't. I didn't

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watch any of the.

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You didn't watch Don't Be Tardy?

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No.

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Okay.

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I watch court TV.

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Same. In North Carolina, a state trooper is indicted for

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first-degree murder after a love triangle with another cop ends

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with a sheriff's captain dead in a front yard. A

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Swamp People star is booked in Louisiana on felony theft

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after a raid in Bayou Blue. And a former Colorado

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crime lab analyst is sentenced to 10 years for manipulating

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DNA data on hundreds of cases. Work that helped vacate

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at least one murder conviction and left sexual assault files gutted.

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That one there gets me. I know we're going to

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talk about it, but that one, that's unconscionable.

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Right. Shocking. And so we got that. We got overtime

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coming your way. And we're going to start it all now.

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I'm Jim Chapman.

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And I'm Kelly Jennings. And I no longer have COVID.

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Right.

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Thank God, huh?

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Hopefully.

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Did you have, right? I won't cough on you. It

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was so random. I just started feeling bad, y'all. And

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I texted Jim and said, talking about last week, I'm

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sorry I wasn't on the show, but I felt terrible.

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And then come to find out, I had the vid.

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All right, so we're going to start off with a

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story about a group treasurer for a high school football

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team that has stolen nearly a half a million dollars

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to pay her mortgage and credit cards. So federal prosecutors

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say the woman held the checkbook at Aliso Nigel High

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School football program. This was a nonprofit organization. that they

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had set up and she actually used it on her

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own house. Her name is Julie Molina. She is from Aliso, Vallejo, California.

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She was arrested Thursday, September 10th at her home and

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a federal grand jury indicted her September 2nd on four

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counts of wire fraud. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the

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Central District of California said the FBI is on the case.

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She was arranged in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana,

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and she is pleaded not guilty. Now, the organization is

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the Wolverine Football Club. It's a 5013C that supports that

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particular high school football team. As treasurer, she received dues,

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co-signed checks, paid for what the board approved, kept the books.

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and she sent financial statements to the board. The indictment

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alleges from 2023 to 2025, she diverted about $ 411, 000 from

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the club's bank account without authorization. The government said some

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of the money went to a delinquent mortgage on her

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resident and to credit card bills. One transfer is spelled out,

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June 23, 2023. About $ 132, 000 leaves the club's farmers and

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merchant bank account. This is in Laguna Hills. Rided to

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a Federal Reserve facility and landed in her Santa Ana

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account tied to the mortgage servicer of her actual mortgage.

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So basically, she paid her freaking mortgage with it, but

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that's $ 131, 000. So she must have just went ahead and

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paid her whole dadgum house off. To hide it, prosecutors

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said she emailed the board false treasurer reports that left

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the missing money off the page. So she just didn't

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take it out of there at all. The Wolverine Football

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Club put out a statement saying they knew about the

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former treasurer and have cooperated with law enforcement. And each

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wire fraud count carries a statutory maximum of 20 years

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in prison. So she's got four counts. So this lady

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is actually looking at 80 years in prison. And if

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you're watching this on the Patreon, you can see she doesn't,

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you know, you can never, you don't know what someone

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that steals looks like, but this lady is the last

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person you would think would be stealing. I mean, she

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looks like someone that would bake cookies for you. And yeah,

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you just never know, but 80 years in prison, she's

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facing the rest of her life.

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That's a ton of money. Okay. And I'm not saying

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it's ever right to steal money.

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I'm not saying that, but If this would have been

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like $ 4, 000 and she was behind on her mortgage, as

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just a human being, party view goes, you know, she

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didn't want to lose her house or something like that.

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And maybe you could just at least understand why she

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may have done what she did. I'm not saying it's right.

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You should never steal from anybody. But where does greed,

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like when does it become just absolutely $ 411, 000? You know why?

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Because it's always starts small and then you get comfortable

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when you get away with it and then you just

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start increasing and start increasing. But yeah, they might want

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to go back to the drawing board on that one

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and figure out.

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$ 411, 000 total. And my question is what freaking high school

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football team has a half a million dollars in an account? Yeah.

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Somebody's doing some a good job selling world's finest chocolate

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seriously that's all i can tell you i mean that's

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a lot of money.

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They must have some really good boosters though in that

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area um you know because don't they have a lot

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of big like refinery type stuff and things maybe in

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that area that you know to the point of where

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do they have four hundred thousand dollars in that account

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maybe they have some some wealthy donors from that area

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or something and maybe that's why she got away with

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it for so long was that a lot maybe big

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transfers and money were something that they saw i don't

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know but Still, that's a ton of money. We would

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never have that kind of money in South Louisiana for

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a high school that just ebbed and flowed like that.

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That's crazy. We can't even pay our teachers here. So

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good luck with that one, ma'am. I hope it was

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worth prison time to pay off your house. All right,

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so let's jump into some Lindsey Clancy because I know

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this one is huge. Last week, we reported that after

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a weeks-long trial and about 38 hours of deliberation or

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seven days, Judge William Sullivan declared a mistrial in the

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Lindsey Clancy case. Jurors told the court that they were

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just stuck. Notes and later interviews put the split at

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11 to 1, 11 for not guilty by lack of

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criminal responsibility, 1 for guilty of murder. The holdout was

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not given a public interview. He has not been named,

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but three jurors who voted with the majority have spoken out.

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So on September 11th, juror Paula Devlin sat with Gayle

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King on CBS Mornings. King asked what that one juror

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could not wrap his head around, and Devlin said that

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it was the suicide attempt. how Clancy could take step

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after step to try to end her own life while

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the defense said that she was in a psychosis. Now,

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keep in mind that this is one juror's account of

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another juror's sticking point, and this is not the holdout

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speaking for himself. We're just kind of explaining what that

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juror said happened. Other majority jurors have said more. Four-person

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Ronnie Carlson told NBC10 Boston the holdout admitted he had

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reasonable doubt after they watched a recorded interview with a

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forensic psychologist. Carlson said she started filling out the verdict slips,

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signed them, and then he said he still would not

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find her not guilty by reason of insanity. Juror Kelly

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Farina said that he had the hardest time getting past

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the fact that the children were killed. Devlin, in earlier interviews,

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called him arrogant and said he brushed off nurses on

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the panel who were walking through medical records. During deliberations,

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the defense asked Judge Sullivan to remove that juror, arguing

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that he would not apply the reasonable doubt instruction. Sullivan refused.

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He said it was not his place to pick a

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side between one juror and 11. An emergency try at

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the Supreme Judicial Court also failed and then came the mistrial.

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If the 11 had won, Clancy would not have been

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just released. A not guilty by lack of criminal responsibility

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finding in Massachusetts typically means commitment to a secure psychiatric facility,

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potentially for a long time under court order. Devlin told

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King she was uneasy about defense lawyer Kevin Reddington asking

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the judge to enter a not guilty finding based on

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juror interviews. She said, that the children never left that

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jury room and that quote unquote not responsible was in

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her mind justice and a path to treatment and a

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way to talk about postpartum illness. Prosecutors have not said

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whether they will retry. A hearing is set for September

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the 29th.

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Yeah. Shout out to the holdout juror. That's all I

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can say about it. I know people are on one

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side of the fence or the other. This chick strangled

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all three of her kids with a freaking, what was it?

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Exercise band.

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Exercise band.

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And killed them.

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Well.

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And no one's denying that she killed them. And you

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see on the Internet. As this trial was going on,

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people were actually introducing the possibility that maybe her husband

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killed them. I wanted to remind everybody that even her

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defense attorney was not denying that she killed him. She

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fucking killed him.

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There's no debate there. I understand people say postpartum depression

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caused her to kill them. Okay. She still killed him. Right.

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I'm going to do a whole episode on this, so

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I'm not going to go all in right now because

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I've got a whole lot. That's going to actually be

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my next week coming up. I've got some, I'm going

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to start in on this one. But I will point

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one thing out that I did have an issue with

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insofar as these jurors speaking out. And it's that in

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those interviews, one of the jurors said that, you know,

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even whenever they had nurses in in the room going

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through all the medical evidence and breaking it down for

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him that he wouldn't budge. And I have an issue

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with that statement because you're supposed to weigh the evidence

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as it is presented to you in court by the

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witnesses that are in the courtroom that testify. And the

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issue I have here is that you may have had

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nurses on the panel, but their interpretation of the medical

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evidence of the medical records and what that means and this, that,

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and the other should not have been weighed as evidence.

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and of itself. And I don't mean to get too

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technical here, but that is in essence what that woman said.

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understanding of what was given in court by the people

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that testified as the expert witnesses or as the witnesses.

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there is valid because Because he doesn't have to listen

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to what they say as nurses or former nurses and

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their interpretation of it and them be right just because

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they were nurses. He listened to what was said in

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court and he weighed what was said in court. And

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I think that juror may have stepped in her own

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mess here, not realizing it. Because just because they explained

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it to him doesn't mean he has to accept their explanation.

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He had to listen to what was said in court.

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You know what I'm saying? And the reasonable doubt that

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he had... may not have been in the totality of

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the case. He may have said, you're right, I don't

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understand this portion of the evidence. Maybe that isn't how

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that went. But overall, he may have been beyond a

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reasonable doubt. And so wording matters here. And just because,

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and one woman really irritated me in an interview. And

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it was her own words when she said, he just

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couldn't seem to get past the fact that she viciously

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killed her children. And I stopped it after I heard that,

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and I went back and I played it over and

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over and over again, and I thought, well, yeah, I'm

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not sure we should get past someone viciously killing their children,

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like their people, their children. They're defenseless. So, again, I'm

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going to dig really deep into this one in my

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upcoming episodes, but these jurors I don't think are helping

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themselves with these interviews. I really don't.

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Well, I don't even know if they're looking to help them.

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I think they're trying to pile on on this one juror. And,

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you know, I watched part of that trial, especially the

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key points, and I can see why it was holding out, too.

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And you shouldn't be bullied into changing your answer. That's

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not how it works.

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Right. All right. Let's go to Florida. And we're going

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to go to this past Thursday night, about 8 o'clock.

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A mobile station in St. Petersburg, Florida, to be exact.

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And a 41-year-old woman, she's pumping gas into a Volvo.

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An SUV, St. Petersburg police say another 41-year-old then walks

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up to her and she deliberately ignited gasoline with a lighter.

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The SUV went up and the woman at the pump

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was burned. Officers say she suffered second-degree burns and was

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taken to the Tampa General Hospital. The police chief called

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the injuries horrific but said, Thankfully, she is expected to survive.

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The woman police arrested a couple of blocks away is

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Eleanor Crawford. She's 41. She's charged with attempted felony murder

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and arson. Pinellas County Records put her bond at $ 350, 000,

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and she did resist arrest as part of her arrest.

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Police say the two women did not know each other. Motive,

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they said, was not known. Apparently, Crawford walked up, asked

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to use the victim's phone. The victim let her use

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the phone. Crawford then asked for money. The victim said no.

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That is when, according to police, the lighter came out

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of the pump. A witness parked nearby said it looked

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like a fireball. He said he helped the burned woman

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into his truck and called 911. and firefighters put out

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the SUV. The victim has not yet been publicly maimed.

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I'm looking at the photo here that you have of

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the aggressor, Eleanor, and I'm wondering if those are meth

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wounds on her face.

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I was wondering the same thing.

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how the.

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I guess.

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I mean, if she was up close. But the thing

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is this, you walked up to that woman... prepared to

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do something to her in your mind, because who would

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think that quickly to light that on, you know, I'm

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trying to say to be able to do that to somebody. So, um, the, her,

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her bond is, even though it's 300 something thousand is

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less than the medical bills that this woman's probably going

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to incur. Um, not to mention all the recovery and

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all of that. That's crazy. Um, that's insane. And you

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put everybody else at risk too. That's around.

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Oh, of course. The whole place. Yeah.

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It's a gas station.

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And even after someone did something kind.

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Let you use the phone. That's why you don't... My

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advice would be don't interact with people, period.

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That you don't know.

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That you don't know, especially at these gas stations. Tell

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them to get away from you.

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Again.

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And look at them in the eyes when you say it.

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I tell my children this. I tell everybody this. You

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are required to be a good person, not a nice person.

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And so it's okay to say, sorry, no, I don't

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share my phone, whatever. You can tell people no. And

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I'm not victim blaming here at all. I want to

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be clear. I'm just saying... You have to protect yourself

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in today's world, especially from crazy.

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Right.

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All right, so Labor Day afternoon. There was a southbound

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CTA redline train, and a 29-year-old man was just trying

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to get home from work. By the time that that

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train cleared 69th Street, Kyle Bickham was dead on the tracks.

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Chicago police first thought that he had jumped, but that

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version didn't last. After detectives went back through the case,

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they said Bickham, the victim, was pushed, forced off of

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a moving train, during a fight on board. He hit

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the electrified third rail, was incapacitated, and then was struck

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by another train. So this is.

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Oh, my gosh.

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Yeah, this is horrific. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

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The Cook County Medical Examiner ruled it a homicide and

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his cause of death, multiple injuries from being struck by

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a train. That was Monday, September the 7th, around 2.30 p.m.

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near the 69th Street Red Line Station. Police say three people...

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used force to push him off. And as of this morning,

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one of them is in custody. On Friday, September 11th,

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officers arrested, get this, a 15-year-old girl, a 15-year-old. She's

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not been publicly named because of her age, but she

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has been listed as a missing person from the south suburbs,

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which adds a whole new element to this. She was

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charged with first-degree murder, mob action. That's a first. That's

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a first for me. I've never heard mob action actually

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applied somewhere. murder during another forcible felony and aggravated battery

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of a transit employee. Saturday, she was in juvenile court.

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The Cook County State's Attorney's Office said a judge found

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probable cause on every count and ordered her held. She

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was due back in court Monday, September the 14th, and

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it's not yet clear whether prosecutors will try to move

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the case to adult court. Two other people police say

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helped shove Bickham off that train have not been arrested.

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Bickham lived in Lansing and and family said he was

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coming home from a shift at an Amazon warehouse. Relatives

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described him as the youngest boy of four siblings, a

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hardworking uncle who checked on his grandmother and had just

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lined up a new apartment closer to work for himself

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and his girlfriend. His mother, LaTanya Bickham, asked how the

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train doors were open in the middle of a run.

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His sister, Kayla, said the story kept changing before the

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family understood what police now allege. His brother, Christopher Bickham Jr.,

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spoke directly to whoever else was on that car. This

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is a quote. Y'all took a part of me that

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I cannot get back. Like, just turn y'all cells in. Like,

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I forgive y'all already. His father, Christopher Bickham Sr., put

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it this way. Fix the trains. Whatever's happening with the trains,

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it shouldn't have happened that easy. The family has asked

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witnesses and the parents of anyone else involved to come forward.

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Police have not announced another arrest.

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We're living in a matrix, I'm convinced.

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Something is just.

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I mean, 15 years? old, and you're pushing a man

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into a train.

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Out of a moving train into.

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Right, yeah.

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I don't want to speak out of turn here, but

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I saw something on Facebook, I believe it was, about

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this time, and I'm hoping I'm wrong, but someone was

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filming from below and above rail. in this area. And

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they were like, this can't be real. And it was

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legs and feet that were hanging through the rail. And

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they're like, what is going on? I hope it wasn't

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this guy, but someone filmed it live and I saw

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it and I was like, holy cow, but to be

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pushed off only to be incapacitated by the electric way

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and then just smashed by another train.

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And then there's, there's several incidents around the country that

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I've seen lately with these pushing people in front of

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like subway trains and just, I don't know, man. Zero.

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It's zero regard for life.

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We don't have those here, so we don't know. You know,

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we're not accustomed to, like, the subway life, I guess.

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But I wouldn't, you know, keep your head on a

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swivel if you've got a subway in your neck of

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the woods.

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Yeah.

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Stay away from the doors and put your back against

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the wall. And that's sad. All you're trying to do is.

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Come home from work.

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Sad.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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We're going to go. Look, I'm going to tell you all,

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when I woke up this past Sunday, I opened my phone.

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And I saw a trailer for a documentary was going viral.

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It's a new film. It's called, you can see everything.

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I'm like, what is this about? I click on it.

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And within maybe two seconds of watching it, I knew

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I was in for this movie when it comes out

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in October. So this is actual documentary, but it's, it's

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a movie. Like it's going to be at the movie theater.

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So the trailer opens up with the a 24 logo.

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If you're familiar with documentaries, you watch a lot of them.

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A24 is the absolute best. They have the best director

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probably in the history of documentaries.

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Where do they release their documentaries usually? Is it like

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a Netflix?

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They do a lot with Netflix. They've done some movie-related documentaries.

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I can't think of off the top of my head

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some to name, but they're the best. And so you

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see that A24 logo. I was already like, oh, I'm

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going to like this. You hear the sound of waves

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in the background and you get a voiceover. And that

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voiceover says, I'm not that person. I can promise you that.

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It's a female voice, but it's fairly deep and it's

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a little bit raspy. Then it cuts to the person

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that's saying that. And it's none other than Elizabeth Holmes.

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It continues, why would I deceive you? There's no reason

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for me to do that. As a matter of fact,

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rather than tell you what was said, even though Listening

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doesn't do it justice. If you're on the patron, you'll

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see it. But even if you're listening to it, you're

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going to grasp what I'm about to say. Listen to this.

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I'm not that person. I can promise you that. I

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don't have anything to deceive you on. Of course, I'm

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not deceiving you. I'm engaging with you as a human being.

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Why would I deceive you?

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There's no.

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There's no reason for me to do that.

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Okay. All right. Okay, good shot. You're being real right now?

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I'm always being real.

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All right, so you heard that right there. Look, if

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y'all are not familiar, Elizabeth Holmes founded Theranos. This is

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in 2003. She was 19 years old at the time.

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The company promised to run a wide range of lab

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tests from a few drops of blood. That was it.

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And it would be taken by a finger prick. And

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they used proprietary devices that they had invented themselves. And

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the pitch was basically to help people who were scared

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of needles. but also to run rather large panels with

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just a small amount of blood. As a matter of fact,

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the idea was so good that Theranos at its peak

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had a valuation of nine billion as in B dollars.

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Forbes named Holmes the youngest self-made female billionaire ever in 2014.

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But there was a problem. The technology never performed as claimed.

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Theranos secretly used conventional lab machines for many tests. So

456
00:25:03.670 --> 00:25:07.740
they would say, we're running these tests on our proprietary machine,

457
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.380
and they would actually send it off to a real lab,

458
00:25:10.740 --> 00:25:13.740
get the results back, and claim they were their results.

459
00:25:14.180 --> 00:25:16.089
They did a bunch of other stuff, too. They were

460
00:25:16.150 --> 00:25:19.930
watering down the blood tests, which skewed them. All kinds

461
00:25:19.970 --> 00:25:23.930
of things. Long story short, January of 2022, she gets

462
00:25:23.990 --> 00:25:27.680
convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud,

463
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:32.359
three counts of wire fraud against investors. And she was

464
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:37.160
ordered to pay $ 452 million in restitution, which she did pay, incidentally.

465
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.200
She does go to jail, and she reported to Federal

466
00:25:41.299 --> 00:25:45.789
Prison Camp Bryan, which is a minimum security woman's facility

467
00:25:46.250 --> 00:25:51.069
in Bryan, Texas. This is in May 20th of 2023. Okay. Okay,

468
00:25:51.109 --> 00:25:57.730
so here's where it gets really interesting. She basically, in between,

469
00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:02.900
so she gets charged in 2020. It's the middle of COVID. Okay,

470
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.559
so everything moves slowly, right? You can't even go to

471
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:09.180
court during COVID half the time. In between this time,

472
00:26:09.220 --> 00:26:13.759
she gets prego. So she gets prego, and everybody was

473
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:15.940
thinking it was to keep her out of jail because

474
00:26:15.980 --> 00:26:19.069
it extended. They did actually say, okay, we're going to

475
00:26:19.089 --> 00:26:22.049
let you have this baby before we go any further.

476
00:26:23.009 --> 00:26:26.470
She has the baby, and she gets convicted. And in

477
00:26:26.490 --> 00:26:29.619
between the convictioning and the sentencing, she gets prego again.

478
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:29.720
Girl.

479
00:26:30.900 --> 00:26:33.019
So, yeah. Girl, making money and babies. She's making up

480
00:26:33.059 --> 00:26:34.180
for lost time, right?

481
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:34.279
Yeah.

482
00:26:35.109 --> 00:26:38.430
Uh, well, long story short there, they didn't, it didn't

483
00:26:38.450 --> 00:26:41.230
keep her out of prison this time. She, fortunately she

484
00:26:41.269 --> 00:26:44.069
had the baby like three months before she was to

485
00:26:44.109 --> 00:26:47.190
go to prison. So she does have that baby. This

486
00:26:47.289 --> 00:26:51.869
documentary is the three weeks prior to her actually reporting

487
00:26:51.910 --> 00:26:55.309
to prison. I am so intrigued by this documentary cause

488
00:26:55.329 --> 00:27:00.549
y'all this, this girl, uh, is an absolutely different breed

489
00:27:00.609 --> 00:27:02.789
is if you can't tell from the trailer that was

490
00:27:02.849 --> 00:27:08.529
just played. Uh, But she's like Elon Musk smart. So

491
00:27:08.930 --> 00:27:13.250
the brains on her is always intriguing me. She idolized,

492
00:27:13.369 --> 00:27:16.869
absolutely idolized Steve Jobs with Apple. So much so that

493
00:27:16.910 --> 00:27:20.529
she dressed exactly like him. He had that trademark black turtleneck.

494
00:27:21.029 --> 00:27:25.710
She actually had the same trademark black turtleneck. Changed her

495
00:27:25.809 --> 00:27:29.349
voice to a deep, raspy voice. And it wasn't really that.

496
00:27:29.369 --> 00:27:31.089
It was a totally fake voice.

497
00:27:31.769 --> 00:27:35.119
So let me tell you what, if you didn't... If

498
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:39.170
you didn't see the trailer, okay, first of all, you

499
00:27:39.190 --> 00:27:41.900
can go to Patreon, you can see it. I don't

500
00:27:41.940 --> 00:27:43.900
know if it's going to give off the same vibe

501
00:27:43.940 --> 00:27:46.420
as if you're watching it, because there is something like

502
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.160
within you that is very uncomfortable and you pick up

503
00:27:50.269 --> 00:27:52.109
on it, even if you don't know what it is,

504
00:27:52.990 --> 00:27:55.289
the staring on her. And I look deeply into body

505
00:27:55.309 --> 00:27:57.329
language and things like that. And she's trying to say

506
00:27:57.349 --> 00:28:00.170
that she's being truthful. But the issue I take with

507
00:28:00.349 --> 00:28:02.849
if you're watching it is that her blink rate slows

508
00:28:02.890 --> 00:28:05.759
down to zero. And when someone is panicking or when

509
00:28:05.819 --> 00:28:08.619
someone is really trying to like work through an issue

510
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.000
and blink rate will slow down. Then it picks back

511
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:17.029
up whenever it's his turn to say something. But also,

512
00:28:17.049 --> 00:28:24.940
I wonder... she's giving sociopath because when you mimic other

513
00:28:24.980 --> 00:28:28.569
people like a chameleon, that's exactly what you become is

514
00:28:28.609 --> 00:28:30.950
a chameleon. And so like if you watch the Jodi

515
00:28:31.049 --> 00:28:33.950
Arias trial, for example, a lot of people picked up

516
00:28:33.990 --> 00:28:36.980
on the fact that she completely changed her look to

517
00:28:37.019 --> 00:28:40.319
look like her attorney bangs and the way that she

518
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.720
dressed and that whatever friend group she was in, she

519
00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:45.599
would change to like mimic those people even becoming a

520
00:28:45.660 --> 00:28:48.670
mormon for her boyfriend at the time this is just

521
00:28:48.730 --> 00:28:52.529
giving chameleon playing the part to me just that small

522
00:28:52.569 --> 00:28:56.470
snippet okay i haven't seen any more um but she

523
00:28:56.509 --> 00:28:58.529
may be smart but it's odd.

524
00:28:58.690 --> 00:29:01.339
Oh she's there's no maybe she's weird she's a bona

525
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.779
fide genius but interestingly.

526
00:29:04.099 --> 00:29:05.759
Because her product wasn't real.

527
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.119
Oh no she she is a what is the genius

528
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:12.930
genius Even the thought of what she was– the problem

529
00:29:12.970 --> 00:29:16.880
with what she was doing was she couldn't get it

530
00:29:16.930 --> 00:29:22.099
to work. But the path that she took was genius thoughts.

531
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:27.380
She oversold. She wasn't– yeah. Well, she just took a

532
00:29:27.500 --> 00:29:30.680
shortcutted path to– she felt like if I could get

533
00:29:30.740 --> 00:29:33.440
enough money, I could actually make it work. So she

534
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.460
was frauding these investors by making them think something worked

535
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:38.119
that didn't.

536
00:29:38.819 --> 00:29:39.950
So it didn't start out wrong.

537
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:45.000
Process at 19 years old to– look, this girl secured

538
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:50.869
a $ 150 million investment from the enter of Fox News

539
00:29:51.630 --> 00:29:56.009
at 19. At 19. You know, that guy was obviously impressed.

540
00:29:56.089 --> 00:29:59.970
And a lot of the people that donated to her– presidents.

541
00:30:00.069 --> 00:30:04.019
She sat down and had dinner with presidents. This girl,

542
00:30:05.180 --> 00:30:10.730
as far as her genius– I think that's unmistakably something

543
00:30:10.769 --> 00:30:14.130
that has to be admitted by everybody. But her method

544
00:30:14.170 --> 00:30:16.519
of going about it was where it was flawed.

545
00:30:16.539 --> 00:30:18.099
Do you think it started out totally legitimate?

546
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:19.619
I think she wanted it so bad. Oh, yeah.

547
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.940
And then it just became that she oversold, and then

548
00:30:23.019 --> 00:30:25.180
she had all these expectations, and so then she.

549
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.369
Just got fraudulent. Yes, that's exactly what I think. And

550
00:30:27.430 --> 00:30:31.089
I think that she believed in her mind, if I

551
00:30:31.109 --> 00:30:33.150
can get enough money, I can make it work. I

552
00:30:33.190 --> 00:30:35.789
just need to keep getting these investors. And I think

553
00:30:35.829 --> 00:30:39.609
it caught up. to her before the technology was where

554
00:30:39.670 --> 00:30:41.880
she needed it to be. But you talk about her

555
00:30:41.940 --> 00:30:44.119
blanking rate and stuff like that. And this is where

556
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.599
I would, I totally agree with you, but this is

557
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:53.619
where I would say your unfamiliar rarity with her is, is, is, uh,

558
00:30:53.809 --> 00:30:58.670
showing in that because that's how she's always been.

559
00:30:58.690 --> 00:30:59.569
Yeah. I have zero.

560
00:30:59.609 --> 00:31:02.650
You watch like she did a Ted talk one time.

561
00:31:02.670 --> 00:31:03.849
Oh, I'm gonna go watch it then.

562
00:31:04.190 --> 00:31:07.210
And it is the exact same look. She just stares

563
00:31:07.230 --> 00:31:12.230
like that? Yes, when she did her depositions. she would

564
00:31:12.750 --> 00:31:15.930
absolutely look you right in the eyes. And her eyes, y'all,

565
00:31:16.410 --> 00:31:19.359
they look like she's stoned out of her mind. Her

566
00:31:19.430 --> 00:31:22.339
pupils are the size of freaking silver dollars.

567
00:31:22.380 --> 00:31:24.920
She's giving Chelsea Clinton. I'm sorry. That's what I see

568
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:25.539
when I look at her.

569
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:30.119
Yeah. But her pupils are huge. But it's just her.

570
00:31:31.099 --> 00:31:32.740
She's almost like a machine.

571
00:31:32.779 --> 00:31:33.460
Like intense.

572
00:31:33.779 --> 00:31:34.099
Yeah.

573
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.720
And she looks you dead in the eyes. And she'll

574
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.099
shake her head like, She's totally, you're the only person

575
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:41.980
in the room talking.

576
00:31:42.009 --> 00:31:43.710
That's the way you feel. You don't read that as

577
00:31:43.750 --> 00:31:45.750
like an attempt at dominance? Because I read that as

578
00:31:45.809 --> 00:31:48.589
trying to dominate the situation.

579
00:31:48.670 --> 00:31:53.089
Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. But she's never let that

580
00:31:53.130 --> 00:31:54.269
guard down if that's the case.

581
00:31:54.289 --> 00:31:54.599
I got you.

582
00:31:54.670 --> 00:31:58.190
Every interview I've ever seen with her, she's exactly the same.

583
00:31:58.450 --> 00:32:00.059
She may just be like that.

584
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.859
Even someone willing to change their voice.

585
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:03.059
Yeah, I know.

586
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:03.380
That's weird.

587
00:32:04.049 --> 00:32:04.430
It is.

588
00:32:05.170 --> 00:32:08.450
I think that was a tactic. She had said one time,

589
00:32:08.569 --> 00:32:11.670
she's never admitted that she did that, but she alluded

590
00:32:11.849 --> 00:32:14.329
one time that there were certain things she did because

591
00:32:14.369 --> 00:32:17.750
she was a young female and she was trying to

592
00:32:17.789 --> 00:32:22.819
find ways to separate herself from every other 19-year-old female

593
00:32:22.910 --> 00:32:23.170
out there.

594
00:32:23.190 --> 00:32:26.099
Well, shit, girl, if you built a $ 9 billion company,

595
00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:27.440
I'd say you separated yourself.

596
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.539
Yeah, well, I think, but she started this prior to that.

597
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:30.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

598
00:32:31.339 --> 00:32:35.000
And so I... you know, in a way it made

599
00:32:35.019 --> 00:32:37.740
a little bit of sense. And she felt like the

600
00:32:37.829 --> 00:32:42.970
deeper voice made people, made her stand out more. And

601
00:32:43.029 --> 00:32:46.240
it also kind of like caught people's attention and they

602
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.440
listened to her more. Because they didn't expect that type

603
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:50.480
of voice to come out of her.

604
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.119
But, you know, there is realness to that because I

605
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.839
was reading, there was a study done on respect of

606
00:32:56.900 --> 00:33:00.000
people and who you give respect to without even, like,

607
00:33:00.019 --> 00:33:03.660
if you don't even know them. And larger men with

608
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:08.569
strong jaws, for example, are automatically given more, I guess,

609
00:33:08.690 --> 00:33:12.589
respect off the cuff than, you know, you could have

610
00:33:12.630 --> 00:33:15.869
a four-star general walk in that's um you know billy

611
00:33:15.910 --> 00:33:19.180
badass but if he's four foot nine and kind of

612
00:33:19.259 --> 00:33:22.319
a smaller guy yeah you don't necessarily give him the

613
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.960
same levels but if a massive guy walks in automatically

614
00:33:26.140 --> 00:33:28.160
and that's got to be something biology in us that

615
00:33:28.180 --> 00:33:30.210
you know that that's a stronger bigger person there's got

616
00:33:30.230 --> 00:33:33.029
to be something to it so in that regard i

617
00:33:33.150 --> 00:33:35.230
i think maybe she was on to something like maybe

618
00:33:35.269 --> 00:33:40.170
if i come across as more dominant more uh stronger.

619
00:33:39.710 --> 00:33:42.890
And more i don't know different yeah different.

620
00:33:42.779 --> 00:33:45.299
Different then it would get people's attention. So to that, hey,

621
00:33:45.339 --> 00:33:47.220
I'll tip your hat. You were trying something, you know,

622
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.819
but the fraud, you kind of lost the plot.

623
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.380
Oh, yeah. Look, she's batshit now. Don't get me wrong.

624
00:33:53.789 --> 00:33:55.970
This chick, and I think we're all going to see

625
00:33:56.009 --> 00:33:58.269
it in this movie, but I kind of knew it before.

626
00:33:58.369 --> 00:34:01.869
She was definitely batshit. Now, the interesting thing is her

627
00:34:02.029 --> 00:34:04.930
partner in this movie, which if you saw the trailer,

628
00:34:04.990 --> 00:34:07.430
you see a man sitting across from her. You can

629
00:34:07.470 --> 00:34:08.320
Google this trailer.

630
00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:10.440
Like lover partner or like business partner?

631
00:34:10.619 --> 00:34:13.420
Lover partner. So they've just never been married, but they've

632
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:18.519
been together since 2018. So this guy, in his own right,

633
00:34:18.820 --> 00:34:22.599
is very, very wealthy. He comes from a very wealthy family,

634
00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:25.800
and they met at some sort of charity event way

635
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.539
back in 2018. And the fact that he's still with her,

636
00:34:29.860 --> 00:34:33.909
I think he genuinely loves this girl because he met

637
00:34:33.949 --> 00:34:36.889
her right when all this was going down with her

638
00:34:36.949 --> 00:34:40.690
company going in the tank. $ 9 billion to zero. And

639
00:34:40.730 --> 00:34:43.510
he not only stayed with her, he had two children

640
00:34:43.530 --> 00:34:46.820
with her. And he's staying with her until she's released

641
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.679
in 2032. So that's commitment because he's a good looking guy.

642
00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:54.119
Kind of looks like JFK a little bit. Y'all can

643
00:34:54.139 --> 00:34:55.659
go check him out. Yeah, very tall.

644
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:56.309
I'm a fan of that.

645
00:34:57.250 --> 00:35:01.769
But he's absolutely in love with this girl. Everything I've

646
00:35:01.829 --> 00:35:02.289
ever read.

647
00:35:02.750 --> 00:35:06.449
She doesn't strike me as her, like the story at least. Again,

648
00:35:06.489 --> 00:35:08.230
I don't know much about her, but she doesn't strike

649
00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:11.449
me as evil. It comes across almost as she had

650
00:35:11.489 --> 00:35:14.150
this grand idea and she wanted it to win so

651
00:35:14.190 --> 00:35:18.250
bad that then it became bad. I think that's right.

652
00:35:18.570 --> 00:35:20.510
I think her drive got to her.

653
00:35:20.570 --> 00:35:24.880
Yeah, because you never want to oversell from the start.

654
00:35:25.449 --> 00:35:27.199
And that seems like that's what happened. It got too

655
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.699
big too fast and the expectations met up with her.

656
00:35:29.739 --> 00:35:33.340
But then again, there's people with chronic medical conditions or

657
00:35:33.380 --> 00:35:37.400
with serious medical conditions that really depended on what was

658
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.969
being promised to them. And so there is harm.

659
00:35:39.989 --> 00:35:41.380
Oh, 100%.

660
00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:43.639
And that was a lot of the issue. They had

661
00:35:43.659 --> 00:35:46.739
people that were having heart attacks because they were basing

662
00:35:47.019 --> 00:35:49.340
what they were reading off these blood panels that were

663
00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:53.519
flawed as fact and they were following accordingly.

664
00:35:54.099 --> 00:35:57.480
And watering it down is so problematic in and of

665
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.059
itself because that's why like DNA, you don't water it

666
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.900
down to see it. You know, you duplicate it, replicate it,

667
00:36:03.940 --> 00:36:06.780
blow it up. And so, yeah, I can't understand how

668
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:08.750
she would have even thought Well, the.

669
00:36:08.710 --> 00:36:12.530
Problem was, and that was the whole reason they got caught,

670
00:36:13.130 --> 00:36:16.840
was some hematologist came out and said, there's no way

671
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.139
you can pull that many panels from a drop of blood.

672
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:20.780
Because you eat up- You just don't have enough blood.

673
00:36:20.820 --> 00:36:21.019
Right.

674
00:36:21.059 --> 00:36:22.239
You eat up the sample.

675
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:26.840
Yeah. And so that's where the investigation started. That's when

676
00:36:26.860 --> 00:36:29.760
they found out, okay, they're watering down some of these samples,

677
00:36:29.849 --> 00:36:36.289
which are skewing the results. And also- It's just infactual.

678
00:36:36.530 --> 00:36:39.969
A lot of it was flawed. And they had one

679
00:36:40.070 --> 00:36:42.510
doctor that got so curious because they had a contract

680
00:36:42.530 --> 00:36:45.750
with Walgreens. And every Walgreens was going to have this

681
00:36:45.829 --> 00:36:50.210
machine in their Walgreens. One of these doctors went to Walgreens,

682
00:36:50.289 --> 00:36:52.530
did a blood test. The next day, he went to

683
00:36:52.570 --> 00:36:55.769
his doctor's office, did another blood test, and the panels

684
00:36:55.849 --> 00:36:59.329
were completely different. And that's when they knew, uh-uh, something's

685
00:36:59.369 --> 00:37:01.119
wrong with this machine. with this system.

686
00:37:01.139 --> 00:37:03.949
Well, kudos to that doctor for going that far, too, because,

687
00:37:03.969 --> 00:37:07.130
you know, it saved a lot of people, I would assume,

688
00:37:07.150 --> 00:37:08.989
from a lot of heartache and problems. So I'll be

689
00:37:09.010 --> 00:37:10.489
interested in that one. I told Jim we ought to

690
00:37:10.530 --> 00:37:12.650
do a premiere where we watch it together, but he

691
00:37:12.670 --> 00:37:14.380
laughed at me. So I guess we're not.

692
00:37:14.429 --> 00:37:15.719
All right.

693
00:37:15.739 --> 00:37:16.119
We might.

694
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:20.440
Let's go from fraudulent medical stuff and let's jump right

695
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.079
on into religion. Let's just go there.

696
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:22.360
Where.

697
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:26.329
A priest is supposed to guard the collection plate, but

698
00:37:26.409 --> 00:37:30.269
prosecutors in Pennsylvania say Gregory Allen Medea treated it like

699
00:37:30.309 --> 00:37:33.329
an ATM. And when that wasn't enough, they say that

700
00:37:33.369 --> 00:37:36.010
he went after his own mother's nursing home money.

701
00:37:36.730 --> 00:37:37.250
Oh, my God.

702
00:37:37.429 --> 00:37:39.730
How in the world does the word priest come out

703
00:37:39.829 --> 00:37:42.570
and then all of that? But Medea is 69 years

704
00:37:42.699 --> 00:37:45.659
old and a former Ukrainian Catholic priest who served three

705
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.280
Western Pennsylvania parishes, St. John the Baptist in McKeesport, Assumption

706
00:37:50.340 --> 00:37:53.469
of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Derry Township, And St.

707
00:37:53.510 --> 00:37:56.369
Demetrius of, I would say Jeannette, but do you think

708
00:37:56.389 --> 00:37:56.969
that's Jeannette?

709
00:37:57.670 --> 00:37:59.630
It could be. Jeannette is what I thought.

710
00:37:59.650 --> 00:38:00.030
Jeannette.

711
00:38:00.150 --> 00:38:00.349
Okay.

712
00:38:00.429 --> 00:38:03.130
From the South, I want to be like Jeannette. But

713
00:38:03.210 --> 00:38:07.090
on August 14th, 2026, he was arrested in Vero Beach, Florida.

714
00:38:07.530 --> 00:38:10.809
Pennsylvania Attorney General Dave Sunday's office charged him with felony

715
00:38:10.889 --> 00:38:14.940
dealing and proceeds of unlawful activities. theft by unlawful taking,

716
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.940
theft by failure to make required disposition of funds, financial

717
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.670
exploitation of an older adult or care-dependent person, and access

718
00:38:24.730 --> 00:38:28.389
device fraud. The alleged thefts go back to 2018. The

719
00:38:29.050 --> 00:38:32.530
total prosecutors put on his documentation of the theft, here

720
00:38:32.550 --> 00:38:32.909
we go, $ 740, 409.

721
00:38:32.750 --> 00:38:32.809
96.

722
00:38:32.789 --> 00:38:34.130
That is a ton of money.

723
00:38:34.150 --> 00:38:34.389
Yeah, yeah.

724
00:38:41.739 --> 00:38:50.380
Investigators say Medea fraudulently took $ 319, 997 from church-related people and entities, parishes, parishioners, donors,

725
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:53.610
and the Pennsylvania Knights of Columbus. Witnesses told agents that

726
00:38:53.650 --> 00:38:58.250
collection money went missing. Fundraising proceeds, donations, rent, and church

727
00:38:58.309 --> 00:39:03.090
fees were never deposited into church accounts. An assumption of

728
00:39:03.110 --> 00:39:08.860
the Blessed Virgin Mary, they said he pulled more than $ 75, 000

729
00:39:06.820 --> 00:39:11.059
out of the general and savings accounts between 2021 and 2022.

730
00:39:11.110 --> 00:39:16.179
And then there's the chalice. A jeweler told investigators Medea

731
00:39:16.219 --> 00:39:18.559
showed up acting as a representative of St. John the

732
00:39:18.579 --> 00:39:23.639
Baptist and sold a gold church chalice for $ 19, 440. The

733
00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:27.429
jeweler thought the money was going back to the parish.

734
00:39:28.190 --> 00:39:30.929
Prosecutors say it did not. And during that same stretch,

735
00:39:31.329 --> 00:39:37.190
Medea paid $ 35, 433 in cash for a 2018 Ford Mustang.

736
00:39:37.650 --> 00:39:39.989
And according to the complaint, he handed the car to

737
00:39:40.030 --> 00:39:44.400
the man living with him. That brings us to what

738
00:39:44.420 --> 00:39:49.719
a search turned up. And The investigation started in February

739
00:39:49.739 --> 00:39:53.320
of 2023, where the attorney general agents worked with police

740
00:39:53.340 --> 00:39:57.070
in Grove City, McKeesport, and another county on a case

741
00:39:57.110 --> 00:40:00.769
that began as narcotics and missing church money. At a

742
00:40:00.829 --> 00:40:04.070
West Mifflin residence in Bettis Road, investigators say they found

743
00:40:04.130 --> 00:40:07.670
church offering envelopes in the trash, including envelopes from the

744
00:40:07.710 --> 00:40:12.369
Derry Township Parish. On Medea's device, photos of debit cards

745
00:40:12.469 --> 00:40:15.789
and bank documents tied to St. John the Baptist, plus

746
00:40:15.829 --> 00:40:18.750
messages and photos related to narcotics. So now we've got

747
00:40:18.789 --> 00:40:20.590
a dope priest as well.

748
00:40:20.610 --> 00:40:22.179
A dope priest.

749
00:40:22.219 --> 00:40:24.489
A dope priest. If that's even a thing. I think

750
00:40:24.510 --> 00:40:27.590
I invented that just now. In the trash, according to

751
00:40:27.650 --> 00:40:30.809
local reporting on the complaint, more than 100 stamp bags

752
00:40:30.849 --> 00:40:36.420
with heroin residue, 22 hypodermic needles, and broken glass pipes.

753
00:40:36.579 --> 00:40:39.980
Prosecutors allege the stolen money also went to gambling, trips

754
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:43.480
to Key West, and Norwegian cruise line voyages.

755
00:40:43.940 --> 00:40:45.360
Drug problem and gambling.

756
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:46.639
Yes, indeed. Yep.

757
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:47.480
Makes sense.

758
00:40:47.579 --> 00:40:50.300
The church side of this is ugly. The family side

759
00:40:50.539 --> 00:40:54.110
is worse. Medea... had power of attorney over his mother,

760
00:40:54.489 --> 00:40:57.010
and investigators say she was past the point of managing

761
00:40:57.030 --> 00:41:02.289
her own finances. They accused him of draining more than $ 230, 000

762
00:41:00.809 --> 00:41:02.989
from her investment accounts, money that was supposed to pay

763
00:41:03.030 --> 00:41:05.909
for her care, and using her bank account to move

764
00:41:05.949 --> 00:41:09.599
stolen funds around. She was evicted from multiple nursing homes

765
00:41:09.659 --> 00:41:10.980
because the bills weren't paid.

766
00:41:11.219 --> 00:41:11.800
Oh, my gosh.

767
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.659
Your own mama? On top of the thefts, the attorney

768
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.820
general's office say that he left an unpaid tax responsibility

769
00:41:18.860 --> 00:41:25.469
of $ 248, 663, 000, Attorney General Dave Sunday did not soften the language, quote,

770
00:41:25.889 --> 00:41:28.510
it is unconscionable to see a supposed man of God

771
00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:31.400
exploiting not only the churches he served, but his own mother.

772
00:41:31.820 --> 00:41:34.380
The defendant abused the trust of those around him and

773
00:41:34.460 --> 00:41:38.480
left them to recover the mammoth financial losses, end quote.

774
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:42.099
Medea was suspended from priestly duties on February 8th of 2024.

775
00:41:42.090 --> 00:41:50.280
The overseers of the Ukrainian Catholic parishes, said it is

776
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.860
cooperating with the investigation and working with its insurer to

777
00:41:53.900 --> 00:41:56.519
try to recover money entrusted to them. As of the

778
00:41:56.539 --> 00:41:58.619
latest reports, he'd been picked up in Florida and was

779
00:41:58.659 --> 00:42:01.769
being brought back to Pennsylvania to face the charges. So

780
00:42:01.789 --> 00:42:05.090
we have three parishes, the Knights of Columbus, collection envelopes

781
00:42:05.210 --> 00:42:09.070
in the garbage, a gold chalice sold like scrap, a

782
00:42:09.230 --> 00:42:12.289
cash Mustang, an elderly woman bounced out of nursing homes

783
00:42:12.309 --> 00:42:14.769
while her son held the power of attorney. That is

784
00:42:14.809 --> 00:42:17.250
the case. The state of Pennsylvania has put in Gregory

785
00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:20.309
or on Gregory Allen Medea, and we'll follow it when

786
00:42:20.349 --> 00:42:21.909
it lands in a Pennsylvania court.

787
00:42:22.449 --> 00:42:29.730
Yeah. And look, almost a million dollars. And when you

788
00:42:29.769 --> 00:42:32.750
got to the part about the drugs and the gambling

789
00:42:32.929 --> 00:42:34.809
that told me everything I needed to know, because that's

790
00:42:34.829 --> 00:42:40.219
probably where these problems started. Uh, you know, like they say,

791
00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:43.099
you get on drugs, you'll steal from your mother. There's

792
00:42:43.139 --> 00:42:46.719
proof of it. That's exactly what happens. Your whole life

793
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:52.019
falls apart and you got to have them drugs, you know, and, and, um, disgusting.

794
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:53.780
And he would steal from his church and his mother.

795
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:54.719
We are all human.

796
00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:55.280
Okay.

797
00:42:55.789 --> 00:42:57.909
I'll, I'll say that we are all human. We're all,

798
00:42:57.969 --> 00:43:02.510
we all face, you know, the same troubles, but there

799
00:43:02.570 --> 00:43:05.030
is something about the fact that when I see a priest,

800
00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:06.050
I'm not even Catholic.

801
00:43:06.130 --> 00:43:06.329
Okay.

802
00:43:06.369 --> 00:43:11.389
But when I see a priest, the respect and the, um, what,

803
00:43:11.409 --> 00:43:14.300
what is the word? The, I don't know.

804
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.340
I put you on hold. Any member of, of leading

805
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:18.780
a church to a high.

806
00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:22.159
Yeah. But I, and I put you up higher than myself,

807
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.110
you know, that you're, you're a man of God and

808
00:43:25.139 --> 00:43:28.269
you represent all that comes with that. And to know

809
00:43:28.650 --> 00:43:32.730
that that person is deceiving you is just painful, um,

810
00:43:32.869 --> 00:43:34.469
on all levels. And his poor mama.

811
00:43:35.730 --> 00:43:40.550
I am Catholic, and I hold priests typically up to

812
00:43:40.590 --> 00:43:43.260
a high esteem, just like I hold any other pastor

813
00:43:43.510 --> 00:43:47.840
of any church. And there's good and bad in everything,

814
00:43:48.340 --> 00:43:50.860
and religion included in some cases.

815
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.699
Do you say chalice or chalice?

816
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:53.380
Chalice.

817
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:54.059
Chalice.

818
00:43:54.460 --> 00:43:54.860
Chalice.

819
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.260
I've heard people say chalice. I've never heard them say chalice.

820
00:43:58.420 --> 00:44:01.179
I have on a documentary about chalices.

821
00:44:01.710 --> 00:44:04.070
On a documentary. But I wondered if that was just

822
00:44:04.110 --> 00:44:06.809
how they said it or if I was dumb. Maybe

823
00:44:06.849 --> 00:44:07.409
I'm just dumb.

824
00:44:07.429 --> 00:44:09.889
Yeah, well, I don't think you're dumb.

825
00:44:10.010 --> 00:44:10.650
I said chalice.

826
00:44:10.710 --> 00:44:15.230
All right, let's go to our next story here. And

827
00:44:15.469 --> 00:44:19.260
if you've listened to Exposed, you already know about this

828
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.539
because I dropped this episode just a couple of days

829
00:44:22.579 --> 00:44:26.260
ago from this drop. But we're going to talk about

830
00:44:26.300 --> 00:44:30.989
Kim Zolciak and Croy Bierman's son, KJ, who is 15

831
00:44:30.989 --> 00:44:31.730
years old now.

832
00:44:31.869 --> 00:44:32.230
Not me.

833
00:44:33.510 --> 00:44:37.969
No, not you, KJ. Kim Zolciak's son. So some shocking

834
00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:41.909
news is going down for the reality show fans out there,

835
00:44:41.929 --> 00:44:46.329
and it centers around Croy KJ Bierman Jr., who is

836
00:44:46.329 --> 00:44:49.760
15 and the son of Real Housewives of Atlanta alum

837
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.679
Kim Zolciak and former Atlanta Falcons linebacker Croy Bierman. On

838
00:44:54.780 --> 00:44:58.500
September 3rd, a Fulton County grand jury indicted him on

839
00:44:58.619 --> 00:45:04.519
seven felonies, aggravated child molestation, aggravated sodomy, aggravated sexual battery,

840
00:45:04.619 --> 00:45:08.210
false imprisonment, and three counts of sexual battery against a

841
00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:11.829
child under 16. Those counts are tied to an alleged

842
00:45:12.010 --> 00:45:17.900
April 23rd, 2026 incident. at a fitness facility in Alpharetta, Georgia,

843
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:23.079
involving a female classmate, also under 16. He was arrested

844
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.199
August 17th and held at the Metro Regional Youth Detention Center.

845
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:31.429
This is in Atlanta. His lawyer, Jason Sheffield, says he's innocent.

846
00:45:31.710 --> 00:45:34.130
What would you expect there? And asked to move the

847
00:45:34.150 --> 00:45:40.150
case to juvenile court. Interestingly, it was in adult court originally.

848
00:45:40.530 --> 00:45:44.360
He was arguing that, hey, KJ Bierman was 14 at

849
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:50.619
the time and that the aggravated counts were extremely dangerous

850
00:45:50.699 --> 00:45:53.460
when you're an adult. It's important to note that those

851
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:57.659
charges carry a mandatory minimum of 25 years with no parole.

852
00:45:58.179 --> 00:46:02.170
Zolciak has publicly denied the classmate allegations. She said her

853
00:46:02.190 --> 00:46:05.730
son sat for a polygraph. He passed and that she

854
00:46:05.769 --> 00:46:09.380
was told no DNA matching him was found. on the victim,

855
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.389
and that, from all accounts, is true. On September 11th,

856
00:46:13.510 --> 00:46:16.809
at a bond hearing before the judge, Deputy District Attorney

857
00:46:16.849 --> 00:46:20.750
Kaitlyn McGillicuddy put a second matter on the record, and

858
00:46:20.809 --> 00:46:25.989
this dropped everybody's jaw because nobody knew about this. Prosecutors

859
00:46:26.110 --> 00:46:29.840
told the judge KJ had already been under court supervision

860
00:46:30.300 --> 00:46:35.000
since October of 2025 on a separate sexual battery case

861
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:40.210
involving a relative under the age of 12. An allegation

862
00:46:40.250 --> 00:46:45.159
they said was first reported in 2023. McGillicuddy said investigators

863
00:46:45.219 --> 00:46:49.519
later found recordings on his phone. videos of this, and

864
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:53.920
not the current charges, the past charges, and they contend

865
00:46:54.179 --> 00:46:58.179
that that shows sexual abuse of a child. Sheffield asked

866
00:46:58.219 --> 00:47:02.039
for a $ 65, 000 bond in this hearing because this kid

867
00:47:02.059 --> 00:47:06.139
had been arrested and he had no bond until this hearing,

868
00:47:06.340 --> 00:47:10.389
and Zolciak was to supervise him at home. The state

869
00:47:10.489 --> 00:47:11.829
asked for a $ 190, 000 bond if one was allowed at

870
00:47:11.849 --> 00:47:17.199
all the judge did set a bond at this hearing,

871
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:21.179
but it was $ 200, 000 with terms that he lived at

872
00:47:21.219 --> 00:47:25.739
his mother's house, conduct school online, electronic monitoring, no cell phone,

873
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:29.199
no social media, no contact with the classmate or her

874
00:47:29.260 --> 00:47:33.539
family and no contact with anyone 16 and under, including

875
00:47:33.579 --> 00:47:35.280
his own family, including his siblings.

876
00:47:35.340 --> 00:47:35.519
Yeah.

877
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.880
Well, I mean, if you already have a family victim, allegedly.

878
00:47:38.139 --> 00:47:42.980
Well, yes, no, I'm not. I don't disagree with that. Um,

879
00:47:43.900 --> 00:47:47.199
I don't know whether it was a sister or whatever.

880
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:49.099
It could have been a cousin. I mean, not that

881
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.599
it matters, but I mean, I'm just saying. Because if

882
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.900
that's the case, that also means his mother can't have contact.

883
00:47:56.820 --> 00:47:58.349
Those kids can't come to her house.

884
00:47:59.210 --> 00:47:59.909
Not if he's there.

885
00:48:00.530 --> 00:48:02.070
Yeah, I guess she could leave and go to them.

886
00:48:02.090 --> 00:48:03.889
Or he could leave and then they could come over.

887
00:48:03.909 --> 00:48:06.670
Well, he can't leave. He's under house arrest. He can

888
00:48:06.730 --> 00:48:11.150
only leave for medical appointments and that's it. according to

889
00:48:11.650 --> 00:48:13.510
the charges. So he cannot leave the house.

890
00:48:13.610 --> 00:48:16.630
Look, I'm going to tell you something right now. Obviously,

891
00:48:16.690 --> 00:48:19.050
these are all alleged, and he's not been convicted of anything.

892
00:48:19.070 --> 00:48:20.539
I want to be very clear on that. But I

893
00:48:20.579 --> 00:48:23.179
will tell you this, with all the charges that they've

894
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:26.340
stacked on this kid, and the fact that his mom

895
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.980
is saying, that didn't happen, but they're going forward with this,

896
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:33.159
and in adult court, you can bet there is a

897
00:48:33.420 --> 00:48:37.820
stacked case against this kid. You can bet. they're going

898
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:39.880
hard on this guy. If they, if they did not

899
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:41.420
have something.

900
00:48:41.139 --> 00:48:44.760
Worth, I think it was the, the priors in the

901
00:48:44.820 --> 00:48:48.460
current case. And it's true. They did not find any

902
00:48:48.500 --> 00:48:50.139
of his DNA on this girl.

903
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.320
Well, if it was days later, then it wouldn't make sense.

904
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:55.840
It wasn't days later. It was, it was like, she

905
00:48:55.909 --> 00:48:58.769
reported it like the, the next morning.

906
00:48:59.090 --> 00:49:01.309
I know, but okay. Case in point though, let's say

907
00:49:01.389 --> 00:49:02.730
it's an oral sexual battery, didn't it?

908
00:49:02.829 --> 00:49:03.869
Or oral sodomy.

909
00:49:03.929 --> 00:49:04.190
Okay. Okay.

910
00:49:05.889 --> 00:49:10.010
Well, sodomy is oral sex or anal. But in this case,

911
00:49:10.110 --> 00:49:10.739
it's oral.

912
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:13.739
But if she the thing about the DNA, though, is

913
00:49:13.780 --> 00:49:16.610
that if he forced her or whoever the victim is

914
00:49:17.030 --> 00:49:20.230
to do something to him, if he didn't finish. um,

915
00:49:20.409 --> 00:49:22.219
or she went and washed her mouth out or she

916
00:49:22.340 --> 00:49:23.360
ate or she drank.

917
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:25.619
Or anything like that. They actually had, according to her

918
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.739
penetrative sex as well. So both oral and penetrative.

919
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:30.719
But did he use a condom? We don't know. So

920
00:49:31.179 --> 00:49:33.579
I'm just saying that there's ways that could happen and

921
00:49:33.619 --> 00:49:35.880
there not be DNA. That DNA is not the end

922
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:36.619
all be all.

923
00:49:36.699 --> 00:49:39.260
No, I agree. I'm not debating that, but it, uh,

924
00:49:39.789 --> 00:49:41.329
I don't know. I mean, I would think it would

925
00:49:41.349 --> 00:49:44.309
be kind of hard not to put any DNA at

926
00:49:44.489 --> 00:49:48.139
all on you if you're having oral sex and penetrative

927
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:51.760
sex with someone. You don't have to have sperm. You

928
00:49:51.780 --> 00:49:54.139
can have DNA other than sperm.

929
00:49:54.300 --> 00:49:54.480
Right.

930
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:57.260
But if there was like, let's say that his sweat

931
00:49:57.300 --> 00:49:58.900
or something like was on her. Well, they were at

932
00:49:58.940 --> 00:50:01.530
a workout place. That could be poo-pooed. That could be, oh, well,

933
00:50:01.550 --> 00:50:03.329
they were working out together. They knew each other. Oh,

934
00:50:03.349 --> 00:50:06.489
they hugged. Oh, you know, there's reasonable doubt there. But

935
00:50:06.530 --> 00:50:09.110
I'm saying just the lack of DNA doesn't necessarily mean

936
00:50:09.130 --> 00:50:11.480
that there wasn't. No, I agree. I'm not saying that.

937
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.019
My point is this, though, for... I don't know that

938
00:50:15.059 --> 00:50:17.800
his mama ought to be saying anything right now because

939
00:50:18.050 --> 00:50:21.349
there was already a prior case with film evidence. It

940
00:50:21.389 --> 00:50:24.070
says of him with the, with the victim that's lit.

941
00:50:24.130 --> 00:50:27.210
And now we've got another additional case. I am not

942
00:50:27.250 --> 00:50:30.309
saying he necessarily did it. Obviously we don't know, but

943
00:50:30.449 --> 00:50:32.179
if I was that mama, I know you want to

944
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.699
defend your kid, but maybe you need to like, take

945
00:50:35.739 --> 00:50:38.900
a step back, look at what's already occurred, look what's

946
00:50:38.940 --> 00:50:42.320
being proposed and maybe just sit tight and let the

947
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:43.139
attorney do the work.

948
00:50:43.380 --> 00:50:43.579
Yeah.

949
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.780
Yeah, pretty crazy. And look, they've got millions of fans.

950
00:50:48.139 --> 00:50:53.139
And everybody knows them that obviously watches Real Housewives stuff,

951
00:50:53.219 --> 00:50:56.239
Real Housewives of Atlanta, pretty shocking stuff to come out.

952
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.909
But who knew he already had prior charges? That was

953
00:50:59.090 --> 00:51:00.869
because he was a minor. That never came out.

954
00:51:01.389 --> 00:51:02.429
Yeah.

955
00:51:02.769 --> 00:51:04.269
Interesting. We'll see.

956
00:51:04.510 --> 00:51:09.590
This sounds like predatory behavior. And if she has been

957
00:51:09.690 --> 00:51:15.960
told that he may have done this, Then instead of

958
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.820
just saying he didn't do it, it's not true. I

959
00:51:18.219 --> 00:51:20.820
would take more of the approach of we're going to

960
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:23.300
let this play out in court. As for me, I'm

961
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:24.920
going to do everything I've been told to do. I

962
00:51:24.940 --> 00:51:27.300
will be monitoring him. I will ensure that he's not

963
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.760
around because for his own safety and his own, you know,

964
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.679
like there's a different approach I think I would be

965
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:36.800
taking here because it makes her not very credible in

966
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.019
the approach. But again, she's a mama, you know, whatever.

967
00:51:40.059 --> 00:51:43.300
But I hope that this pans out and that the victims,

968
00:51:43.449 --> 00:51:44.630
if You know, when it's all.

969
00:51:44.650 --> 00:51:49.510
Yeah, because there are times when people lie and they

970
00:51:49.570 --> 00:51:52.179
say you did something you didn't. It happens all the time.

971
00:51:52.340 --> 00:51:54.420
I'm just having a hard time getting past that first case.

972
00:51:54.579 --> 00:51:56.380
You know, it lends legitimacy to the second.

973
00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:57.360
I agree.

974
00:51:57.659 --> 00:52:01.159
We'll see. We'll see. All right. So you never hear

975
00:52:01.179 --> 00:52:04.260
of a love square, do you? Or a love circle?

976
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.030
It's always a love triangle because it's three, right?

977
00:52:07.690 --> 00:52:07.869
So.

978
00:52:10.110 --> 00:52:11.630
How many would a love circle be?

979
00:52:11.869 --> 00:52:13.230
I don't know. All of them.

980
00:52:13.289 --> 00:52:15.369
Everybody's involved. An orgy.

981
00:52:15.550 --> 00:52:18.980
An orgy. Yeah, a circle jerk. Whatever they call it.

982
00:52:19.090 --> 00:52:22.170
I don't even know why I said that. I don't either.

983
00:52:22.219 --> 00:52:23.760
But it just came out. But it's true.

984
00:52:23.780 --> 00:52:24.980
You're in a love circle.

985
00:52:25.139 --> 00:52:27.079
A love circle. We're inventing that now.

986
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.000
There's a reason you'd never hear of a love circle.

987
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.199
If you're in a love circle, message us. We'd like

988
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:33.780
to know about it.

989
00:52:34.889 --> 00:52:35.130
All right.

990
00:52:35.210 --> 00:52:39.570
So let's go to March 27th, 2026, just before 11 p.m.

991
00:52:40.130 --> 00:52:41.590
And we're going to go to a front yard in

992
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:47.079
Hope Mills, North Carolina. So Cumberland County Sheriff's Captain Adam Bean.

993
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:49.079
That's kind of I like the last name Bean. I

994
00:52:49.099 --> 00:52:51.900
think it's cute. Adam Bean. He's 42, but he is

995
00:52:51.940 --> 00:52:55.489
not having a good time. Captain Bean is dying in

996
00:52:55.530 --> 00:52:57.710
his front yard in the grass. The woman who lives

997
00:52:57.750 --> 00:53:01.809
there is desperately doing CPR whenever deputies pull up. But

998
00:53:01.889 --> 00:53:05.139
Bean is pronounced dead at the scene. Six months later,

999
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:09.179
a Cumberland County grand jury indicts the other man who

1000
00:53:09.219 --> 00:53:11.300
was standing in the front yard. And this is North

1001
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.869
Carolina State Highway Sergeant, I think you would say this,

1002
00:53:15.130 --> 00:53:20.610
Nakim Oxonine, 44. And this charges first degree murder. A

1003
00:53:20.690 --> 00:53:23.929
judge has held him with no bond. Search warrant affidavits

1004
00:53:23.969 --> 00:53:27.510
describe what investigators say was behind the shooting. The woman

1005
00:53:27.550 --> 00:53:31.329
at the house is Tara Whitman and warrants identify her

1006
00:53:31.900 --> 00:53:35.659
as a Cumberland County Sheriff's Office employee and the sister

1007
00:53:36.329 --> 00:53:39.210
of a highway patrol colonel. So there's a lot of

1008
00:53:40.210 --> 00:53:43.789
people that work together here. So according to the warrants,

1009
00:53:43.869 --> 00:53:46.369
Whitman told agents she had been in a long-term relationship

1010
00:53:46.409 --> 00:53:51.199
with Oxidine first, then a long-term relationship with Bean. She

1011
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:55.059
lived with Bean until she moved out in December of 2025.

1012
00:53:55.059 --> 00:53:58.699
By March, she had then gotten back with Oxidine. On

1013
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.159
the night Bean was killed, the warrants say he asked

1014
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:04.320
if they could talk. She later told him she was

1015
00:54:04.460 --> 00:54:07.389
in for the night. He came anyway. Texts cited in

1016
00:54:07.409 --> 00:54:11.690
the warrant, he told her to come outside or he

1017
00:54:11.730 --> 00:54:14.449
would blow the horn and make a scene. She went out.

1018
00:54:14.510 --> 00:54:18.510
Investigators say Bean was irate and asked why Oxidine's vehicle

1019
00:54:18.550 --> 00:54:21.389
was in the driveway. Whitman's account in the warrant was

1020
00:54:21.409 --> 00:54:25.949
that Oxidine first came outside and and fired about two

1021
00:54:25.989 --> 00:54:28.789
shots into the ground, but Bean kept coming. That's when

1022
00:54:28.929 --> 00:54:33.510
Oxidine shot him. Oxidine stayed on the scene, and the

1023
00:54:33.550 --> 00:54:36.909
gun was recovered. Bean had nearly 20 years with the

1024
00:54:36.929 --> 00:54:40.190
sheriff's office and was assigned chief of detectives. So, like,

1025
00:54:40.230 --> 00:54:46.110
this guy had proven himself. Oxidine had about 18 years

1026
00:54:46.150 --> 00:54:48.730
on the highway patrol. So, again, another seasoned deputy here.

1027
00:54:49.949 --> 00:54:52.409
After the shooting, the patrol put him on administrative duty

1028
00:54:52.869 --> 00:54:56.570
and opened an internal investigation. After the indictment, the agency

1029
00:54:56.630 --> 00:54:59.469
called it a difficult and tragic event for all involved.

1030
00:54:59.769 --> 00:55:04.889
He said it would not comment further while the courts

1031
00:55:04.929 --> 00:55:09.869
were in the process and that internal cases had to

1032
00:55:09.909 --> 00:55:12.230
proceed as well. And that's kind of where they left it.

1033
00:55:12.369 --> 00:55:18.050
Yeah, and the classic example of one stupid decision ruining

1034
00:55:18.070 --> 00:55:22.500
the rest of your life. One guy's dead, and the

1035
00:55:22.579 --> 00:55:25.559
other one is going to likely spend the rest of

1036
00:55:25.579 --> 00:55:26.599
his life in prison.

1037
00:55:27.139 --> 00:55:28.199
I guess it depends on which.

1038
00:55:28.300 --> 00:55:29.940
Over a chick.

1039
00:55:30.579 --> 00:55:33.940
I guess it depends on which version you believe, but

1040
00:55:33.980 --> 00:55:36.090
he was indicted, so it kind of sounds like.

1041
00:55:36.869 --> 00:55:39.550
Sounds like the guy's, assuming he was convicted of what

1042
00:55:39.570 --> 00:55:42.250
he's charged with. He has thrown away his life.

1043
00:55:42.929 --> 00:55:43.769
Yeah.

1044
00:55:43.909 --> 00:55:48.150
And a long career. That he was probably set to

1045
00:55:48.190 --> 00:55:52.510
have a pretty good retirement from for stupidity over a check.

1046
00:55:55.139 --> 00:55:56.760
Let me tell you, women have all the power in

1047
00:55:56.780 --> 00:55:57.239
this world.

1048
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:57.940
Yes, we do.

1049
00:55:57.960 --> 00:55:59.159
And don't you ever forget it.

1050
00:55:59.340 --> 00:56:04.170
I don't debate it. Men will do dumb shit just

1051
00:56:04.230 --> 00:56:08.349
for a girl. They will kill another dude just for

1052
00:56:08.369 --> 00:56:12.659
a girl. It's crazy how much power y'all have over us.

1053
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:14.559
I mean, I'll admit it.

1054
00:56:15.300 --> 00:56:18.300
I'm not mad about it. I'll be interested, though, to

1055
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:20.480
watch this one. I'd like to watch this trial because

1056
00:56:20.539 --> 00:56:25.239
I am curious about... You know, you've got a lot

1057
00:56:25.260 --> 00:56:28.519
of experience. And if he didn't just come out guns blazing,

1058
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:31.320
if the first cop did pull up, was laying on

1059
00:56:31.340 --> 00:56:35.179
the horn, irate and screaming at the other cop's now woman,

1060
00:56:35.610 --> 00:56:37.269
and then he comes outside, but why did you come

1061
00:56:37.309 --> 00:56:39.630
outside armed? You know, there's a lot of questions about

1062
00:56:39.670 --> 00:56:41.750
how it played out. If there's a ring camera, this

1063
00:56:41.829 --> 00:56:44.010
one will be interesting. But I mean, an indictment means

1064
00:56:44.349 --> 00:56:44.849
that there was.

1065
00:56:45.139 --> 00:56:49.199
Yeah, I'm saying, assuming everything in the indictment is accurate

1066
00:56:49.219 --> 00:56:52.409
and that he, you know, obviously they prosecuting him as

1067
00:56:52.489 --> 00:56:53.230
if he deserves to.

1068
00:56:53.190 --> 00:56:54.190
Be in jail. Right.

1069
00:56:55.190 --> 00:56:56.730
He has thrown away his life over this.

1070
00:56:56.769 --> 00:56:56.969
Yeah.

1071
00:56:57.349 --> 00:57:00.039
You know. Wow. But we'll keep you posted on it.

1072
00:57:00.150 --> 00:57:00.329
Yeah.

1073
00:57:00.489 --> 00:57:01.789
Kelly, you watch Swamp People?

1074
00:57:02.269 --> 00:57:02.690
I used to.

1075
00:57:02.829 --> 00:57:03.969
Shoot them. Shoot them.

1076
00:57:04.340 --> 00:57:07.960
Actually, my friend Billy did some of the music for

1077
00:57:08.699 --> 00:57:11.019
Swamp People. Shout out, Billy. He sells cars. If you

1078
00:57:11.059 --> 00:57:12.210
need a car, he's over at a.

1079
00:57:13.579 --> 00:57:14.119
Car dealership?

1080
00:57:14.139 --> 00:57:14.760
Car dealership.

1081
00:57:14.900 --> 00:57:18.139
Okay. I'm sure our listeners in Alaska are going to

1082
00:57:18.179 --> 00:57:18.780
hurry on over.

1083
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:20.079
Off of Airline Highway.

1084
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:24.739
Well, so you did watch Swamp People. You were a

1085
00:57:24.739 --> 00:57:29.269
fan of the show. Yes. And look, we're going to

1086
00:57:29.289 --> 00:57:30.730
go to Bayou Blue for this one.

1087
00:57:30.750 --> 00:57:31.389
Okay.

1088
00:57:31.570 --> 00:57:34.519
Iberville Parish. Tell everybody where Iberville is.

1089
00:57:34.550 --> 00:57:35.570
Why do you always make me do that?

1090
00:57:35.590 --> 00:57:35.730
I know.

1091
00:57:35.750 --> 00:57:37.150
I was just messing with you. I didn't mean to

1092
00:57:37.170 --> 00:57:39.400
do that. It's over there by Iberville?

1093
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:39.960
Yeah.

1094
00:57:39.980 --> 00:57:44.539
Okay. Well, Iberville Parish, y'all. Bayou Blue is where we're going,

1095
00:57:44.900 --> 00:57:47.400
and we're going to tell you about a search warrant,

1096
00:57:47.460 --> 00:57:49.760
stolen materials inside of the house. And one of the

1097
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:54.480
men that deputies walked out with out of that home

1098
00:57:54.980 --> 00:57:57.760
is a name that a lot of Louisiana living rooms

1099
00:57:57.849 --> 00:58:02.829
already know. Iberville Parish Sheriff Brett Stassi said his office

1100
00:58:02.849 --> 00:58:06.030
got a report of stolen materials in the Bayou Blue area.

1101
00:58:06.630 --> 00:58:09.190
Detectives work the complaint. They get a warrant for the

1102
00:58:09.230 --> 00:58:12.750
home of a guy named L. Jim Floyd, who is 46. Now,

1103
00:58:12.789 --> 00:58:15.309
they hit that house. They recover the items that had

1104
00:58:15.449 --> 00:58:19.829
already been reported stolen, and Floyd gets booked into the

1105
00:58:19.989 --> 00:58:24.250
Iberville Parish Jail on felony theft, illegal possession of stolen things,

1106
00:58:24.289 --> 00:58:29.739
and obstruction. Also arrested at that house, Willie Edwards Jr., 44.

1107
00:58:29.739 --> 00:58:35.260
Same two theft-related charges. Edwards is the swamp people hunter

1108
00:58:35.380 --> 00:58:37.679
that a lot of people know He was a regular

1109
00:58:37.780 --> 00:58:40.940
on the History Channel series from season one through season 15.

1110
00:58:40.940 --> 00:58:43.780
Didn't he miss in his front tooth? Didn't he that one?

1111
00:58:44.860 --> 00:58:45.639
Didn't it at one point?

1112
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.739
I don't remember if he was. His dad was the main. Yeah.

1113
00:58:49.300 --> 00:58:50.949
I'm pretty sure he was the one who would say.

1114
00:58:51.869 --> 00:58:53.849
Willie was the son. Everybody knows Willie.

1115
00:58:53.889 --> 00:58:54.829
Yeah. Yeah.

1116
00:58:54.909 --> 00:58:57.650
But my mama used to always. My mom had has

1117
00:58:57.690 --> 00:58:59.969
veneers and one of her front veneers broke off. And

1118
00:58:59.989 --> 00:59:01.349
so I was like making fun of her until she

1119
00:59:01.369 --> 00:59:03.090
got it fixed. And she looked at me and she

1120
00:59:03.130 --> 00:59:05.030
quoted him when he didn't have that tooth. And she said,

1121
00:59:05.070 --> 00:59:07.659
if you think you can do it. Go ahead and try.

1122
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:09.210
And she was missing that front tooth.

1123
00:59:09.289 --> 00:59:09.829
There you go.

1124
00:59:10.380 --> 00:59:10.840
It was funny.

1125
00:59:11.179 --> 00:59:11.679
All right.

1126
00:59:11.699 --> 00:59:14.840
So Willie Edwards Jr. is 44. He gets charged with

1127
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:18.659
the same theft related charges. And he was a regular,

1128
00:59:18.739 --> 00:59:21.389
as I said, from season one through season 15, which

1129
00:59:21.469 --> 00:59:22.610
is 2010 to 2024. And appeared, y'all, in 117 episodes

1130
00:59:22.630 --> 00:59:30.900
of that show. Of course, for those unfamiliar, this show

1131
00:59:30.940 --> 00:59:36.639
started in 2010 and is closing in on its 300th episode.

1132
00:59:36.659 --> 00:59:40.630
It's still running as of today. His father, Junior Edwards,

1133
00:59:40.769 --> 00:59:44.230
hunted on the show from 2010 to 2015. Sadly, he

1134
00:59:44.289 --> 00:59:48.150
died last year after stage four colon cancer. A third

1135
00:59:48.210 --> 00:59:51.840
man was inside the Floyd house when deputies executed the warrant.

1136
00:59:52.179 --> 00:59:56.059
His name was Trent Touye. He was 43. And they

1137
00:59:56.099 --> 00:59:59.019
said they found him hiding inside of the house. So

1138
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:03.300
he was arrested as well. And the investigation is ongoing.

1139
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:07.519
But a Swamp People alum has been taken into custody.

1140
01:00:07.539 --> 01:00:09.610
He said, don't ever say here in Louisiana we don't

1141
01:00:09.820 --> 01:00:10.789
arrest our stars.

1142
01:00:10.889 --> 01:00:11.429
We do.

1143
01:00:11.510 --> 01:00:13.949
Believe it or not. He was a star.

1144
01:00:14.289 --> 01:00:17.849
He was, but he was likable. I thought he was likable.

1145
01:00:18.010 --> 01:00:19.429
Well, don't let him in your house. He's going to

1146
01:00:19.449 --> 01:00:20.869
steal you from house to house. I'm not.

1147
01:00:21.010 --> 01:00:23.909
But if I'm ever out in the bayou and a

1148
01:00:23.949 --> 01:00:25.030
gator tries to get me, I'm going to.

1149
01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:25.710
Say, shoot him.

1150
01:00:26.250 --> 01:00:26.690
Help me.

1151
01:00:27.409 --> 01:00:27.849
Help me.

1152
01:00:28.750 --> 01:00:30.230
Well, there you go.

1153
01:00:30.389 --> 01:00:31.550
That's a sad story.

1154
01:00:31.570 --> 01:00:33.550
Edwards will come running for you after he gets out

1155
01:00:33.590 --> 01:00:33.840
of jail.

1156
01:00:33.909 --> 01:00:36.179
With a stolen gun. I love that. Okay.

1157
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:37.219
And a missing tooth.

1158
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:40.500
If you think you can do it, go ahead and try.

1159
01:00:42.610 --> 01:00:43.610
You need to find that video.

1160
01:00:43.630 --> 01:00:44.190
We need to post it.

1161
01:00:44.829 --> 01:00:45.130
All right.

1162
01:00:45.610 --> 01:00:47.889
So this is another wild one. On the morning of

1163
01:00:47.989 --> 01:00:52.150
August 1st, 2026, around 830, first responders rolled out after

1164
01:00:52.150 --> 01:00:56.269
911 was called. And this is in Monterey County, California.

1165
01:00:56.389 --> 01:00:59.070
Somebody had spotted what looked like a baby on the

1166
01:00:59.110 --> 01:01:01.650
side of the road next to the strawberry fields. When

1167
01:01:01.670 --> 01:01:05.750
they got there, the infant was already gone. So investigators

1168
01:01:05.809 --> 01:01:09.949
named her Baby Angelita or Little Angel in Spanish. And

1169
01:01:09.989 --> 01:01:14.269
the umbilical cord was still attached. A forensic exam found

1170
01:01:14.329 --> 01:01:17.469
signs of traumatic injury. The sheriff's office classified the death

1171
01:01:17.530 --> 01:01:21.050
as a homicide, and that is just where this case starts,

1172
01:01:21.190 --> 01:01:23.030
and it is not going to be where this ends.

1173
01:01:23.070 --> 01:01:27.719
You could not predict this. Detectives say their investigation showed

1174
01:01:27.739 --> 01:01:32.099
that a 14-year-old girl had given birth on that roadside,

1175
01:01:32.619 --> 01:01:35.719
put the newborn on the ground, and then left. They

1176
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:40.679
identified the teen as Diana Ortega, and then they identified

1177
01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:44.409
the man they say is the biological father of both

1178
01:01:44.659 --> 01:01:51.630
Diana and baby Angelita, Sergio Galvez Perez, 38 years old.

1179
01:01:51.650 --> 01:01:52.210
Yeah.

1180
01:01:52.590 --> 01:01:57.260
Impregnated his own daughter. So Perez is now wanted on

1181
01:01:57.300 --> 01:02:01.780
a stack of felony counts involving Diana as the victim. incest,

1182
01:02:01.860 --> 01:02:04.800
lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14, lewd

1183
01:02:04.940 --> 01:02:08.679
acts with a minor, unlawful sexual intercourse, child concealment, and

1184
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:11.809
child endangerment. Authorities say he impregnated her when she was

1185
01:02:11.809 --> 01:02:15.530
13 years old, and they also say he has been

1186
01:02:15.590 --> 01:02:20.449
hiding her from the police. Diana's mother, Ophelia Ortega, 36,

1187
01:02:20.449 --> 01:02:23.550
was arrested on a child endangerment charge and booked into

1188
01:02:23.570 --> 01:02:27.010
the Monterey County Jail, later released after posting bail. The

1189
01:02:27.030 --> 01:02:30.440
district attorney's office said has said any review of charges

1190
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:34.199
against the mother is separate from the infant's death and

1191
01:02:34.260 --> 01:02:36.880
from the sex crime against Perez. So it's kind of

1192
01:02:36.900 --> 01:02:40.590
like staggered charges here for different things. Three days after

1193
01:02:40.650 --> 01:02:44.610
baby Angelita was found, August 4th, about 2 a.m., Perez

1194
01:02:44.650 --> 01:02:48.309
and Diana were last seen in Salinas, California, or in

1195
01:02:48.349 --> 01:02:51.130
a white Nissan Altima with no license plates, and then

1196
01:02:51.150 --> 01:02:54.409
they just dropped off the map. On August 31st, Sheriff

1197
01:02:54.469 --> 01:02:57.889
Tina Nito went public with arrest warrants, She said there

1198
01:02:57.909 --> 01:03:00.869
was probable cause to arrest the 14-year-old for murder and

1199
01:03:00.929 --> 01:03:04.909
Perez on the sex and concealment charges. She confirmed Perez

1200
01:03:04.969 --> 01:03:07.889
is the biological father of both children. She asked him

1201
01:03:07.909 --> 01:03:10.130
to turn himself in, and she said in so many

1202
01:03:10.190 --> 01:03:13.139
words that this case is about two children, a baby

1203
01:03:13.179 --> 01:03:15.539
who is dead and a 14-year-old who is both a

1204
01:03:15.619 --> 01:03:19.119
suspect in that death and a victim of sexual abuse

1205
01:03:19.460 --> 01:03:20.760
by her own father.

1206
01:03:20.780 --> 01:03:22.639
Okay.

1207
01:03:23.090 --> 01:03:25.610
Now there's more. I know it's rough. That's only the

1208
01:03:25.650 --> 01:03:29.119
first part of this. So the district attorney's office put

1209
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:32.159
out a statement that walked a hard line. Prosecutors said

1210
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:35.619
they had not received a filing request for charges against

1211
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:38.429
the 14 year old. They had not received the investigative

1212
01:03:38.469 --> 01:03:42.369
reports and they had made no charging decision. The warrant

1213
01:03:42.489 --> 01:03:46.070
the sheriff announced was a Ramey warrant. A judge can

1214
01:03:46.130 --> 01:03:50.170
issue that directly to police on probable cause without prosecutors

1215
01:03:50.349 --> 01:03:54.449
signing off first. The DA's office was blunt. They recognized

1216
01:03:54.469 --> 01:03:57.639
the 14-year-old as a victim of her father's abuse, saying, quote,

1217
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:01.179
no child should ever have to endure such horrific circumstances,

1218
01:04:01.260 --> 01:04:04.059
end quote. Their priority, they said, is getting her safe

1219
01:04:04.389 --> 01:04:07.789
and getting her services. So as of the last official word,

1220
01:04:08.230 --> 01:04:12.250
Perez has charges. Diana does not, at least not from

1221
01:04:12.269 --> 01:04:15.880
the DA. The infant's death is still an open murder investigation.

1222
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.659
And why the Amber Alert took more than a month

1223
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.989
to is the next piece here. California Highway Patrol issued

1224
01:04:22.010 --> 01:04:24.969
the alert on Sunday, September the 6th, after detectives located

1225
01:04:25.309 --> 01:04:28.889
surveillance video, including flock camera hits, which we talk about

1226
01:04:29.150 --> 01:04:31.889
all the time, showing Perez and Diana together in that white,

1227
01:04:31.969 --> 01:04:35.789
unplated Nissan Altima. Until that video, the sheriff's office said

1228
01:04:35.809 --> 01:04:37.789
that they didn't have a vehicle that they could tie

1229
01:04:37.869 --> 01:04:40.550
to Diana, and they could not confirm the two were

1230
01:04:40.590 --> 01:04:43.920
traveling together. Amber Alerts generally need all of that kind

1231
01:04:43.940 --> 01:04:48.760
of detail. The alert covered a wide slice of California,

1232
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:54.760
from Monterey to Santa Barbara, Ventura, Kern, Los Angeles, San Diego, Riverside, Orange.

1233
01:04:54.780 --> 01:04:57.710
It's just all over the place. And on September the 8th,

1234
01:04:57.809 --> 01:05:00.429
with help from the public, deputies found the Nissan in

1235
01:05:00.489 --> 01:05:03.690
Monterey County. The car is no longer part of the lookout.

1236
01:05:03.969 --> 01:05:06.289
Diana and Perez were not in it. As of the

1237
01:05:06.329 --> 01:05:10.119
latest updates in mid-September, both are still missing. The sheriff's

1238
01:05:10.179 --> 01:05:12.940
office says it has taken hundreds of tips since the

1239
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:17.369
alert went out. They stated the priority now is locating

1240
01:05:17.409 --> 01:05:19.710
Diana and making sure that she is safe and that

1241
01:05:19.789 --> 01:05:22.489
she gets medical care. So I'd be very worried for

1242
01:05:22.530 --> 01:05:26.480
her too, considering now everyone knows kind of what all

1243
01:05:26.500 --> 01:05:30.340
has gone on here. The descriptions here, Diana Galvez Ortega,

1244
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.940
she's 14 years old, about 4'10, 100 pounds, black hair,

1245
01:05:33.980 --> 01:05:37.579
brown eyes. Sergio Galvez Perez is 38, Hispanic male, 5'5,

1246
01:05:37.550 --> 01:05:43.159
170 pounds, black hair, brown eyes. The sheriff's office released

1247
01:05:43.300 --> 01:05:46.260
extra photos because he has performed with a local band,

1248
01:05:46.300 --> 01:05:49.320
and people may recognize him from those appearances. If you

1249
01:05:49.380 --> 01:05:53.219
see them, please call 911. Do not approach them. And

1250
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.340
this is one of those cases that I think we

1251
01:05:55.380 --> 01:05:58.900
both agree you hate to report on these. A dead newborn,

1252
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.150
you know, on a farm road, the father accused of

1253
01:06:01.179 --> 01:06:06.130
fathering his own daughter's child. And a sheriff's office that

1254
01:06:06.150 --> 01:06:09.849
put a warrant for murder on a 14-year-old, a district attorney,

1255
01:06:10.329 --> 01:06:13.960
who then agrees that the victim... is a victim, even

1256
01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:16.079
though she's the one that left the baby and has

1257
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:19.099
not been charged. And the Amber Alert that waited until

1258
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:21.659
a camera finally put them in the same car. Just

1259
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:23.969
a lot of things have happened here to make this

1260
01:06:24.010 --> 01:06:28.210
very difficult. Baby Angelita, though, is still at the center

1261
01:06:28.269 --> 01:06:32.570
of a homicide investigation. We can't find Diana. And Sergio

1262
01:06:32.630 --> 01:06:35.670
is still a wanted man. We'll update you, though, as

1263
01:06:35.710 --> 01:06:36.949
we get more information on this.

1264
01:06:37.190 --> 01:06:41.340
There is no hole big enough that they got him

1265
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:46.360
to be buried in. That's a sick human being. Disgusting.

1266
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:50.139
And I hate hearing about or reporting on those types

1267
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:56.090
of cases. But, yeah, that's a disgusting individual.

1268
01:06:56.110 --> 01:06:59.670
You know, my heart. I got to tell you something, though.

1269
01:06:59.730 --> 01:07:05.070
My heart hurts for her that she's going to be

1270
01:07:05.130 --> 01:07:07.570
looked at in a hateful tone by a lot of

1271
01:07:07.610 --> 01:07:09.440
people for that baby being left on the side of

1272
01:07:09.460 --> 01:07:09.860
the road.

1273
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.860
I don't know about that. I think some people will

1274
01:07:14.070 --> 01:07:15.530
understand what's going on here.

1275
01:07:15.949 --> 01:07:18.510
We don't even know. I guess what I'm saying is

1276
01:07:18.570 --> 01:07:21.570
I hate that I just said her name out loud,

1277
01:07:22.230 --> 01:07:25.250
but I'd rather her be found safe than.

1278
01:07:25.269 --> 01:07:27.650
What do you mean, said her name out loud? It's

1279
01:07:27.690 --> 01:07:30.050
an Amber Alert. Everybody knows her name out loud. I know,

1280
01:07:30.070 --> 01:07:31.030
but— We need to know her name.

1281
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.320
I know, but I'm saying as tied to a girl

1282
01:07:33.380 --> 01:07:35.920
that gave birth. It's almost like putting the victim on

1283
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:40.619
blast for— being a victim in a way. I know

1284
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:42.159
we need to find her. I'm just saying my heart

1285
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:45.170
hurts because, you know, this is a story a lot

1286
01:07:45.190 --> 01:07:46.969
of us will hear about and then we'll move on

1287
01:07:46.989 --> 01:07:48.929
with our lives. But this is her life. She's 14

1288
01:07:48.929 --> 01:07:52.110
years old and she's plastered all over the news. She's

1289
01:07:52.150 --> 01:07:55.730
given birth to her own father's child. Everybody knows it.

1290
01:07:56.409 --> 01:07:58.440
I don't know, just a protective factor jumps in on

1291
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:00.039
me right here that this poor girl, we have no

1292
01:08:00.139 --> 01:08:02.320
clue what she's been through. We don't know if he

1293
01:08:02.340 --> 01:08:03.940
made her leave the baby on the side of the road.

1294
01:08:03.980 --> 01:08:04.780
Right, right, right.

1295
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:07.429
I mean, she may just be a total... And complete

1296
01:08:07.610 --> 01:08:08.670
innocent in all of this.

1297
01:08:09.110 --> 01:08:09.369
Right.

1298
01:08:09.510 --> 01:08:10.840
And that's what I meant by I just hate that

1299
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:11.380
I said her name.

1300
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:12.500
Yeah.

1301
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:14.639
Okay. All right.

1302
01:08:15.099 --> 01:08:18.439
Well, let's go into overtime.

1303
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:20.239
Let's get to the nut cutting.

1304
01:08:21.770 --> 01:08:22.430
Let's get to the nut cutting.

1305
01:08:37.369 --> 01:08:38.510
We're going to start out.

1306
01:08:38.670 --> 01:08:40.550
I don't know why I said that, but it stuck.

1307
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.060
We're going to start out in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and

1308
01:08:45.100 --> 01:08:47.800
we're going to go to an argument in an apartment complex.

1309
01:08:47.899 --> 01:08:51.279
So East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's deputies were called on

1310
01:08:51.340 --> 01:08:55.250
September 11th, 2026 on a report of a shooting. The

1311
01:08:55.289 --> 01:08:57.670
woman they arrested is Victoria Bart.

1312
01:08:57.689 --> 01:08:57.869
She's 26.

1313
01:08:57.869 --> 01:09:02.949
The arrest report. charges her with attempted second degree murder

1314
01:09:03.329 --> 01:09:07.010
and simple criminal damage to property. Now here's what investigators

1315
01:09:07.090 --> 01:09:10.060
put In that report, Burks and the man had been

1316
01:09:10.100 --> 01:09:13.439
in a relationship for several years. They argued the man

1317
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:18.079
told detectives he damaged the windshield of Burks' vehicle. After that,

1318
01:09:18.140 --> 01:09:21.270
he said she armed herself with a pistol, ran toward

1319
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:24.520
his apartment when he saw the gun. He said she

1320
01:09:24.579 --> 01:09:28.220
fired several shots at his direction. He was not hit.

1321
01:09:28.619 --> 01:09:31.920
Barks gave deputies a slightly different account. She told them

1322
01:09:31.979 --> 01:09:35.590
she fired one shot toward him and then two more

1323
01:09:35.770 --> 01:09:39.689
after he ran. Detectives said they recovered the spent shell casings,

1324
01:09:39.729 --> 01:09:42.810
found damage to nearby fence, and located the firearm in

1325
01:09:42.890 --> 01:09:46.449
Barks' vehicle. Now, Barks has been charged and the case

1326
01:09:46.510 --> 01:09:50.000
is pending, but that's not the most interesting part of

1327
01:09:50.060 --> 01:09:54.430
this particular story. The most interesting part, which if you're listening,

1328
01:09:54.470 --> 01:09:57.300
you won't see this, but the Patreon members will, is

1329
01:09:57.859 --> 01:10:02.710
the mugshot. I'm telling y'all, this is the most proud

1330
01:10:02.789 --> 01:10:05.149
person to be shooting at a man you've ever seen

1331
01:10:05.189 --> 01:10:08.159
in your life. And she has hair that I can

1332
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:09.020
only dream of.

1333
01:10:09.100 --> 01:10:11.720
Listen, if you superimpose this picture.

1334
01:10:11.739 --> 01:10:14.520
I will post this on the actual Facebook page because

1335
01:10:14.539 --> 01:10:17.600
I think everybody needs to see this. She is fired up.

1336
01:10:17.699 --> 01:10:20.779
If you put this picture and you superimposed her on

1337
01:10:20.819 --> 01:10:24.159
a roller coaster. It would look like she's blowing down

1338
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:26.220
the roller coaster. Her hair is straight back, and she's

1339
01:10:26.260 --> 01:10:27.779
got a 5,000-watt grin.

1340
01:10:27.979 --> 01:10:28.520
Oh, man.

1341
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:29.680
She thinks this is funny.

1342
01:10:29.819 --> 01:10:30.279
Oh, yeah.

1343
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:31.039
Yeah.

1344
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:32.979
So there you have it. You know, but this just

1345
01:10:33.020 --> 01:10:36.060
shows the stupidity behind it all, that you're willing to

1346
01:10:36.100 --> 01:10:38.579
shoot at somebody, and you're willing to go to prison

1347
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:39.890
over it.

1348
01:10:40.500 --> 01:10:40.699
Yeah.

1349
01:10:41.100 --> 01:10:46.109
You know? I just can't even understand it. It's so dumb.

1350
01:10:46.310 --> 01:10:48.430
You know, when you're pissed off, grabbing a gun is

1351
01:10:48.529 --> 01:10:49.390
not the answer.

1352
01:10:49.689 --> 01:10:51.180
Right. Okay.

1353
01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:52.359
Emotional decision.

1354
01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:53.319
Yeah. All right.

1355
01:10:53.340 --> 01:10:56.630
Now, this next one here, I put a whole lot

1356
01:10:56.710 --> 01:11:01.170
of trust in our laboratories in any sense of the world,

1357
01:11:01.329 --> 01:11:04.520
like medical or whatever reason you may use a lab.

1358
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.960
Don't you usually feel like their results that you get

1359
01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:08.199
are kind of like finite?

1360
01:11:08.220 --> 01:11:13.460
Well, unless you're. getting it from Elizabeth Holmes lab. That

1361
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:14.840
could be completely incorrect.

1362
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:15.619
Indeed.

1363
01:11:15.899 --> 01:11:18.590
So a crime lab is supposed to be the part

1364
01:11:18.609 --> 01:11:22.149
of the system that doesn't lie, right? The DNA don't lie.

1365
01:11:22.170 --> 01:11:23.909
You hear that a lot. Well, September the 8th of

1366
01:11:23.909 --> 01:11:27.729
2026 in Golden, Colorado, a judge put a number on

1367
01:11:27.770 --> 01:11:32.189
what happens when it does. Yvonne Missy Woods, 66, a

1368
01:11:32.250 --> 01:11:36.399
former forensic scientist with the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, was

1369
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:39.970
sentenced to 10 years in state prison. In June, she

1370
01:11:40.010 --> 01:11:45.220
pleaded guilty to four felonies, cybercrime, first degree perjury, attempting

1371
01:11:45.260 --> 01:11:48.319
to influence a public servant, and forgery. So you knew

1372
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:50.859
this was going to get deep. Dozens of other counts

1373
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:54.159
were dismissed in the deal. The range in front of

1374
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.989
District Judge Andrew Pollard was 8 to 16 years. He

1375
01:11:58.029 --> 01:12:01.050
gave her 10 on the cybercrime count with the others

1376
01:12:01.109 --> 01:12:04.250
running concurrent, which means at the same time. So Woods

1377
01:12:04.310 --> 01:12:06.859
worked for CBI from January of 94 until November of 23,

1378
01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:12.970
so a long time. And the charged misconduct covers from

1379
01:12:12.970 --> 01:12:18.189
2008 to 2023. Judge Poland called it intentional misconduct by

1380
01:12:18.229 --> 01:12:22.399
a highly trained professional occupying a position of extraordinary trust.

1381
01:12:22.460 --> 01:12:25.720
I think that's the perfect sentence to explain what this is.

1382
01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:29.560
She apologized in court. She said she took responsibility that

1383
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.520
an apology cannot undo the harm and that she failed

1384
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:35.039
people who trusted the evidence. And so this is what

1385
01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:38.670
happened and how it broke open. On September of 2023,

1386
01:12:38.670 --> 01:12:41.989
An intern found missing DNA data in a sample that

1387
01:12:42.069 --> 01:12:46.289
Woods had processed back in 2018. So the bureau widened

1388
01:12:46.369 --> 01:12:49.409
the look. What happened to this DNA? Then they asked

1389
01:12:49.449 --> 01:12:52.710
South Dakota's Division of Criminal Investigation to run an independent

1390
01:12:52.829 --> 01:12:56.729
criminal case so Colorado wasn't investigating itself, which is completely

1391
01:12:56.770 --> 01:13:00.289
proper to have someone else do it. The first judicial

1392
01:13:00.310 --> 01:13:07.220
district attorney's office says, Investigators identified 53 cases with false

1393
01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:13.539
or misleading lab reports, all in Woods' name. Damn. 53 cases.

1394
01:13:13.539 --> 01:13:18.350
41 of those never produced charges against a suspect, which

1395
01:13:18.390 --> 01:13:23.630
is probably her saving grace. 32 involved women and children

1396
01:13:23.689 --> 01:13:28.470
who had reported sexual assault. In those files, prosecutors say

1397
01:13:28.510 --> 01:13:33.109
Woods deleted values showing male DNA was present and then

1398
01:13:33.229 --> 01:13:36.750
issued reports that said no male DNA had been found.

1399
01:13:37.689 --> 01:13:39.430
Oh, my gosh.

1400
01:13:39.529 --> 01:13:44.369
That cut off further testing and further comparison, and cases

1401
01:13:44.449 --> 01:13:49.069
died in the lab instead of in the courtroom, re-victimizing

1402
01:13:50.130 --> 01:13:53.840
women and children. Twelve of the false reports sat in

1403
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:58.039
cases where someone was charged. Three went to trial. There

1404
01:13:58.060 --> 01:14:03.300
was one conviction and two acquittals. Woods' perjury plea is

1405
01:14:03.340 --> 01:14:05.970
tied to false testimony in the trial that produced a

1406
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:11.729
first-degree murder conviction. Of the other nine charged cases, there

1407
01:14:11.750 --> 01:14:15.189
were six pleas, two dismissals, and one is still in

1408
01:14:15.250 --> 01:14:19.470
warrant status. At least one murder conviction was vacated because

1409
01:14:19.489 --> 01:14:23.310
of her work. Prosecutors were careful about what they could

1410
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:26.659
not prove. The criminal investigation, they said, did not find

1411
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:31.100
evidence that Woods produced false DNA identifications, false comparisons or

1412
01:14:31.180 --> 01:14:35.979
false positive matches. The pattern they charged was the other direction.

1413
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:40.060
She was erasing or changing data and then writing reports

1414
01:14:40.100 --> 01:14:43.859
that closed the doors. Beyond those 53 reports, the DA

1415
01:14:43.899 --> 01:14:46.970
said that she also manipulated values in lab notes on

1416
01:14:47.100 --> 01:14:51.050
hundreds more cases, changes that did not produce a false

1417
01:14:51.090 --> 01:14:54.449
official report, but still put her work under review. CBI

1418
01:14:54.489 --> 01:14:58.510
has said the review ran past a thousand cases and

1419
01:14:58.529 --> 01:15:03.130
that the cleanup cost was estimated around $ 11 million. So

1420
01:15:03.170 --> 01:15:07.600
taxpayers are also suffering here. The CBI director Armando Saldate

1421
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:10.739
called her conduct a betrayal of the lab's standards and

1422
01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:13.149
said the agency has changed how results are entered and

1423
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:16.369
how supervisors see the original numbers versus the final ones.

1424
01:15:16.810 --> 01:15:20.850
The intern's find is what started it all. This sentence

1425
01:15:20.909 --> 01:15:23.569
is what closed her criminal case. The case reviews are

1426
01:15:23.649 --> 01:15:26.890
not finished just because she's going to prison, though. 30

1427
01:15:26.890 --> 01:15:29.909
years in the state lab, data changed, reports that said

1428
01:15:30.050 --> 01:15:32.810
no male DNA when the machine had shown it was there,

1429
01:15:33.310 --> 01:15:36.180
sexual assault files that never got a suspect, and at

1430
01:15:36.220 --> 01:15:39.850
least one murder conviction torn up a guilty plea, and

1431
01:15:39.850 --> 01:15:41.550
10 years is all that she got.

1432
01:15:42.609 --> 01:15:47.569
That's unbelievable. You know, number one, why? Why the fuck

1433
01:15:47.609 --> 01:15:52.340
would you do this? And especially the, well, any case,

1434
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:56.079
but the sexual assault in particular is.

1435
01:15:57.680 --> 01:15:58.180
Shocking.

1436
01:15:59.140 --> 01:16:00.420
Like, why would you do that?

1437
01:16:01.409 --> 01:16:02.250
What do you gain?

1438
01:16:02.649 --> 01:16:03.029
I know.

1439
01:16:03.050 --> 01:16:06.609
That's what I'm saying. You know, was she being paid

1440
01:16:06.750 --> 01:16:09.609
off by these people? I mean, there's no way 30-something

1441
01:16:09.649 --> 01:16:12.880
people wouldn't even know who to contact to pay them off.

1442
01:16:13.340 --> 01:16:16.279
So it wasn't a money thing. It's almost like she

1443
01:16:16.300 --> 01:16:18.460
was getting off on the power of being able to

1444
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:19.159
control that.

1445
01:16:19.539 --> 01:16:19.899
Yeah.

1446
01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:25.760
That's it. I'm telling you now, if my child, just

1447
01:16:25.779 --> 01:16:28.319
take me out, if my child had been the victim

1448
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:32.810
of a sexual attack, And then this bitch right here

1449
01:16:34.149 --> 01:16:40.090
goes and changes the facts. And my child never.

1450
01:16:40.130 --> 01:16:40.729
Scientifically.

1451
01:16:40.869 --> 01:16:41.649
Scientifically.

1452
01:16:41.670 --> 01:16:41.970
So people are.

1453
01:16:42.390 --> 01:16:43.149
Playing God.

1454
01:16:43.310 --> 01:16:44.050
Putting everything.

1455
01:16:44.109 --> 01:16:47.369
Literally, you're changing DNA. You're playing God, my friend. And

1456
01:16:47.670 --> 01:16:51.569
my child never got the justice of someone going to

1457
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:54.300
prison behind it. You better pray.

1458
01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:56.039
Pray.

1459
01:16:57.640 --> 01:16:59.430
That you stay in those 10 years and don't get out.

1460
01:16:59.539 --> 01:17:00.880
I would be so angry.

1461
01:17:00.899 --> 01:17:02.579
And then only get 10 years.

1462
01:17:02.579 --> 01:17:03.090
10 years.

1463
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:07.149
Seems like... That almost seems like a life. You deserve

1464
01:17:07.170 --> 01:17:07.949
a life in prison.

1465
01:17:08.210 --> 01:17:10.789
I would be willing to bet that we will see

1466
01:17:10.890 --> 01:17:13.229
changes with their legislature very soon.

1467
01:17:13.289 --> 01:17:13.869
Let's hope.

1468
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:15.319
Insofar as this.

1469
01:17:15.340 --> 01:17:19.680
Manipulating DNA ought to be like a major deal. Absolutely.

1470
01:17:19.939 --> 01:17:20.140
Like.

1471
01:17:20.869 --> 01:17:23.069
You should be scared to death to do that because

1472
01:17:23.090 --> 01:17:24.270
you're going to spend the rest of your life. I

1473
01:17:24.300 --> 01:17:27.279
think that should be, if not life in prison, it

1474
01:17:27.300 --> 01:17:28.979
should be 25 with no parole.

1475
01:17:29.979 --> 01:17:30.359
Absolutely.

1476
01:17:30.380 --> 01:17:30.800
At minimum.

1477
01:17:31.020 --> 01:17:35.899
Absolutely. And there should be, I don't know, I'm sneaking

1478
01:17:35.939 --> 01:17:38.770
out of emotion right now, but that is, there was

1479
01:17:38.810 --> 01:17:39.819
a murder conviction.

1480
01:17:39.850 --> 01:17:40.569
Yeah.

1481
01:17:40.829 --> 01:17:42.430
Now, we don't know if it was thrown out just

1482
01:17:42.489 --> 01:17:43.369
because of.

1483
01:17:43.890 --> 01:17:46.689
But I mean, if the DNA is exonerating or otherwise,

1484
01:17:46.729 --> 01:17:49.630
and the sexual assault cases, I mean, they're not murder,

1485
01:17:49.670 --> 01:17:52.489
but they're just as bad in my view. I mean,

1486
01:17:52.529 --> 01:17:56.329
you're stealing someone's innocence here in a lot of cases. Yeah.

1487
01:17:56.590 --> 01:17:59.680
And ruining people's lives. Yeah.

1488
01:17:59.729 --> 01:18:03.279
Or granting innocence. You're disgusting. You know, it's not like

1489
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:04.460
a mistake was made.

1490
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:05.939
Not that many times.

1491
01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:08.960
And that's why supervisors, that's why that's in place, to

1492
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.399
make sure mistakes aren't made. And that's a valid system

1493
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:15.479
to go through. Then you're... You're tricking everybody in the process.

1494
01:18:15.619 --> 01:18:16.550
It's disgusting.

1495
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:17.399
I agree.

1496
01:18:18.170 --> 01:18:18.409
All right.

1497
01:18:18.449 --> 01:18:23.130
That's all we got time for today, folks. Kelly, any

1498
01:18:23.170 --> 01:18:23.909
final thoughts?

1499
01:18:24.310 --> 01:18:27.029
I have lots of final thoughts. Give me one. Okay.

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01:18:27.130 --> 01:18:29.180
I want to tell y'all, please keep sending us stories.

1501
01:18:29.229 --> 01:18:31.119
I know that y'all send them in to us and

1502
01:18:31.140 --> 01:18:34.100
we really appreciate that. And I want to thank everybody

1503
01:18:34.779 --> 01:18:37.779
that supports us. Please share the show. Please get other

1504
01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:41.789
people to listen. Growing a show is a Is not

1505
01:18:41.829 --> 01:18:42.170
a race.

1506
01:18:42.189 --> 01:18:42.750
A process.

1507
01:18:42.770 --> 01:18:44.340
You know, it's a process. And so we're trying to

1508
01:18:44.380 --> 01:18:47.359
grow this show. absolutely it takes you takes our listeners

1509
01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:50.640
so we appreciate you all right anything else no do

1510
01:18:50.659 --> 01:18:52.439
you have anything else i do what.

1511
01:18:52.460 --> 01:18:56.500
Well unless you've lived under a rock and hadn't paid

1512
01:18:56.539 --> 01:19:00.609
attention to my social media you would know that it

1513
01:19:00.729 --> 01:19:03.949
is freaking old miss lsu game week.

1514
01:19:03.970 --> 01:19:07.630
Oh i know that i'm aware i'm ready.

1515
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:10.670
I am so fired up. I can run through this

1516
01:19:10.750 --> 01:19:11.359
wall right now.

1517
01:19:11.369 --> 01:19:11.609
I know.

1518
01:19:11.649 --> 01:19:12.569
You're like the Kool-Aid man.

1519
01:19:12.689 --> 01:19:13.390
Oh, yeah.

1520
01:19:13.710 --> 01:19:16.430
We're coming for you, Rebels. That's all I got to say.

1521
01:19:16.649 --> 01:19:21.329
We're coming. Us and Boozy Badass.

1522
01:19:21.569 --> 01:19:24.229
You want to talk shit? You want to run your mouth?

1523
01:19:24.670 --> 01:19:26.689
You want some gangsters outside your house?

1524
01:19:26.710 --> 01:19:27.939
Set it off.

1525
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:29.739
Yeah.

1526
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:31.539
And Kelly. Kelly's not really.

1527
01:19:31.579 --> 01:19:32.579
Yeah, I'm real scary, guys.

1528
01:19:33.510 --> 01:19:36.649
All right, so go Tigers this weekend. If you're not

1529
01:19:36.689 --> 01:19:37.949
a Tigers fan, I'm sorry.

1530
01:19:37.989 --> 01:19:38.550
Yeah, we apologize.

1531
01:19:38.590 --> 01:19:40.689
Jump on the train, though. Jump on the lane train.

1532
01:19:41.140 --> 01:19:45.520
To everybody else, we do thank you for listening. We

1533
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:47.260
say that all in fun. I know there's people out

1534
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:49.359
there that hate lane. I'm just not one of them.

1535
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:53.960
But we love everybody out there. Appreciate you. And until

1536
01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:55.119
next time, I'm Jim Chapman.

1537
01:19:55.180 --> 01:19:55.779
And I'm Kelly Jennings.

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01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:59.310
And we're your hosts of Crime Wire Weekly Overtime.