Jan. 13, 2026

Deadly Deal: The Murder of Richard & Karla Van Dusen

Deadly Deal: The Murder of Richard & Karla Van Dusen
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Season 9

In this episode of Unspeakable], KJ dives into the chilling true crime story of William Deparvine, the cold-blooded killer who lured Tampa couple Richard and Karla Van Dusen to their deaths in a ruthless scheme to steal their cherished 1972 Chevy truck. From the fateful 2003 classified ad that sealed their doom, to the brutal shootings and shallow graves in the Florida woods, KJ dissects the greed-driven plot that shattered a community. 

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised, all right. No,

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all I had was my coffee, eh. I bet that

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smell that's my grosis? You know? All right? You ready?

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All right? Three? Two? Hey y'all, kJ you're back with

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another episode of Unspeakable. How's a week going? It's probably

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uh towards the middle. Hopefully you're on the on the

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downhill slide and things are getting better. But man, have

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I got an episode for you today? Before I started, though,

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the shout out list is out of control, out of

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freakin' control. So I'm gonna go through this as as

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best I can. Some of y'all, I know, y'all renewed

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and it popped up as a renewal Some of y'all

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paid in full for the year. Some of y'all are

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month to month. So I just got a mumble jumple

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here that I'm gonna go through. And I want you

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to know, no matter how you are supporting the show,

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even if you're just listening and you're unable to join Patreon,

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you are what matters. You are the people that are

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making this show so popular and so successful. So this

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is my thank you at the beginning of twenty twenty six.

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But I'm gonna go through this list pretty quickly because

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there's a bunch of y'all. But let's start in Okalla,

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Florida with Miss Jackie deval Hi. Jackie, you know the

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story today is in Florida, So this one's gonna be

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for you, my friend. I've got Hannah Smith. Now Hannah

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didn't put her address or anything like that. No worries, Hannah.

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Wherever you are in the world, I want to thank

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you very much for being a supporter. I've got Ronda

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George in San Antonio, Texas. Y'all know I love my

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Texas peeps. Also in Texas, I've got Miss Mandy Ramirez

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in Arlington, Texas and Arlington holds a special place in

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my heart, a lot of history and a lot of

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I don't know, America is in my heart in Arlington,

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So thank you so much, Mandy. Also in Texas, Plantersville, Texas,

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Jessica Columbus, what are you doing, jess I'm leaving at

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you on the camera. Thank you so much. And look,

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some of these shout outs are delayed. I recognize that

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mama had a hell of a last few months with

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my mom in the hospital, and these aren't excuses. But

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then I got sick, and so I was trying to

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just make sure I pushed out so many episodes and

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was getting everything out to you on time. Now in Louisiana,

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I've got Caitlin. Is this cloudtrip from Louranga, Louranger, Louisiana.

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What's going on, Caitlin? How are you? My friend? Waving

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to you? And then in Port Barry, I've got Molly Joe.

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Now you know, my family calls me Kelly Joe, so

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maybe you know we're like twinsies there. But Molly Joe

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is Molly Johnson. That is so fricking cute. I love it, Molly,

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And she's in Port Barry, Louisiana. So what is up

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with you, Mollie. Tell all your peeps, I said hello.

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And then in Prairieville, I've got Cassie Dela pass right

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there in Louisiana, right down the road where I love

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to go antiquing. So hey, girl, how are you doing.

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We've got Denver Ballard and listen, y'all, Denver and I

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have been speaking. Denver's from Louisiana. If you heard the

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episode with missus Mary Ballard and her her son came

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on here Christopher. I want y'all to know Denver owns

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a barbecue sauce company and I'm trying to work something

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out with him for my listeners, so y'all need to

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stay tuned for that. Denver, Denver, you know you're my man.

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Thank you so much, buddy, and I appreciate your support.

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And then I'm going to finish up in Bloomington, Indiana

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with Casey heckerd Hi, Casey. I've never been to Indiana,

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but I do want to go there. I'm kind of

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like trying to make it my bucket list to go

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to more states and to visit more places, get out

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of my comfort zone. So those are my shout outs

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for today. I will definitely have more shout outs coming

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up next episode, so hang in there if you've joined,

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and I will get to you. Thank you from the

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bottom of my heart. You're making my dreams come true.

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And I absolutely love podcasting and doing what I do. Now,

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I told you I was going to take y'all to Florida,

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and this case is one that always intrigued me as

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far as if you want to hear calculating. You've heard

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the word calculating before that was a calculating killer, but

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sometimes I think that word is overused. But in this case,

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get out your fricking calculator. This is the most calculating

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thing that I've that I that I've come across in

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a lot of shows. So we're gonna go to Florida,

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and this is gonna take place just before Thanksgiving Day.

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And the weather there, as we all know, was crisp

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and sunny and beautiful and everything we folks are jealous

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of with concerns to their beautiful beaches and how nice

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it always is in Florida no matter what. And this

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happened to be the home of fifty eight year old

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Richard van Dusen and his gorgeous forty nine year old wife,

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Carla van Dusen, And even though they were a little

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bit older in terms of when you think of the

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word newlyweds, that's exactly what they were. They had only

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been married for roughly three years whenever this case took place,

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and this wasn't their first relationship, as you would probably

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assume they'd been married married before, so their kids were

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all grown from their different relationships whenever their union was

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made official. Now, Carla wasn't a native of Florida. She

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actually was born in King's Mountain, North Carolina, and then

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she had settled in Spartanburg before she moved to Florida

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in the year two thousand. Now it was two thousand

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and three at this point of the story, and the

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couple was now making plans to move back to North Carolina.

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But they did have some items that they were trying

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to offload, maybe downsize before they made the move. But

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they were super excited for this change that was coming.

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But they didn't want to carry all their things back

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with them. And I think we could all relate with that.

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He wants to bring just everything if you could sell

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it or get rid of it. Now, Carla's child, he

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was a grown man. Okay, but it's still her baby,

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her son, and she wanted to be closer to him.

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And she had reared a great kid turned amazing man,

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and his name was Jay. Jay would grow up and

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he became a dentist if I remember correctly, but he

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was a doctor. And Carla herself she had made an

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honest living as a court reporter, and upon their return

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back home when they were to complete this move, she

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was planning on starting back part time and going back

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to doing some court reporting. And she was also extremely

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excited to be right next to her best friend Diane.

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They had been best friends for almost twenty years, which

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really made them more like sisters than just friends, because

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these two women had been fixtures in each other's lives

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so much so I thought this was kind of funny.

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So much so were they just extremely tight that when

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Carla's son, Jay was twelve, he was given an assignment

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at school where he had to write what would you

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do if you won a million dollars? Now, most kids,

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you would think would say, you know, I'd buy a car,

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I would you know, buy whatever? But his answer, I'd

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share my money with my mom and Diane. So that's

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how close these two ladies were. She was an aunt

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to Jay in every way, because blood doesn't mean everything, guys,

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and I think we all know that the heart can

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fill in those gaps. Now. Diane had that mature, bombshell

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look to me when she got all done up. Her

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face had a glow about her, huge beaming smile, full

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of personality, and she had a great figure. She had

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blonde hair, it was wavy, no wonder Rick was wanting

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to marry this woman. But in all seriousness, this was

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a very kind and loving woman. And she also had

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a servant's heart because she was dedicated to helping children

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through ministry. On the weekends, she liked to dress up

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as are you ready for this a clown? Clowns are

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not my personal thing, but she was not a scary one.

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She was a gentle and kind clown who would go

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and visit children's hospitals, bringing joy and silliness to these

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very sick kids that were in a place that was

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just not so silly. And her husband, Rick, this guy

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was an awesome dude too. He was born in Utica,

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New York before he moved to Florida in the seventies,

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so he had been there a long time, and he

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was a successful man professionally. He reached the level or

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the rank of regional sales manager with Lanyard Corporation, and

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that's like a copy machine company. From what I understand,

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Rick was also a religious guy. He was a devout

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Catholic who, just like his wife, really truly believed in

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volunteering and his agency of choice was the Big Brothers

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Big Sisters organization. He was an avid outdoorsman and he

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liked to teach skills beyond the basics to people. But

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his biggest passion, and this will matter in this story,

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was classic automobiles. To call him an enthusiast was probably

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more accurate. And when he was learning about things, and

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when he wasn't brushing up about cars, he was paying

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attention to this civil war known to be very well

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versed in our history. He was the proud father too,

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of two daughters, so their names were Renee and Michelle.

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And he was the even prouder Paul Ball of two

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grandsons and a granddaughter. Needless to say, giving you all

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of that background information, this couple was the proverbial good

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people that I like to say or call people. They

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were organized, mature and happy people entering into their retirement

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years coming very soon. Carla was very close to her

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mother and they spoke often by telephone, sharing not only

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in their daily lives with the mundane things that you do,

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but also the exciting and Carla loved her mama. And

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it was the Tuesday before Thanksgiving when businesses were starting

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to open up around town and a store owner became

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very curious about a jeep that was parked in an

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odd spot near his home. After noticing, he kind of

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went up to it and he was looking at it,

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and he noticed that the seat belt of this vehicle

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was hanging out of the closed passenger door. But not

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only was it wasn't like it was just caught in

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the door. No, it was like long and it was

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hanging out touching the ground. And so just that site

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alone really just got the best of this owner of

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the store, and so he decided to walk up to

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it and just get a closer peek inside. And what

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he got when he got up close to the car

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was more of a shock than he really anticipated, because

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there was obvious blood smeared and dripping down the passenger

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side seat. And when that shock hit him and he

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really started looking around. All of the personal effects of

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a female were still inside of the car. Now, there

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were no people in there, but the site alone was

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enough that he said, oh, hell man, I gotta call police.

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This is not normal. Well, upon arrival, the police taped

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off the scene, and they taped off the vehicle because

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they could tell very quickly that this was definitely a

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crime scene. And the amount of blood in that car

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was not just a scratch or a drip from like

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a nosebleed. No, no way, this was a serious injury

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that someone or something had sustained while seated in that

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passenger vehicle. Now, investigators also took notice some other things.

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The right front window was shattered, and a majority of

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the blood was focused on the left side of the

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passenger seat near the door, looking top to bottom. So

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I wanted to kind of if you're looking through the windshield,

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the left side of that passenger seat, from the headrest

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down is where a majority of that blood was. And

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so from the jump, it really looked like someone was

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either shot or stabbed, and it dripped and then was

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gushing out of a wound on that side. Now, when

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they got in the car, like I said, the woman's

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effects were there or a woman's presumed effects were there,

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and so they went through the purse and looking inside,

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the idea was there. The wallet was there, and the

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purse and vehicle were found to belong to Carla van Dusen.

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So calls to her, checks on her to try to

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locate her all went unanswered. They were not able to

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find her, but the strange circumstance wouldn't go unexplained for

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long when another nine to one one call came into dispatch.

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A homeowner had gone outside and down this gravel driveway

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and then or dirt driveway. He found not one, but

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two dead bodies lying in the roadway. That alone had

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to be just completely unnerving. I mean, finding one person

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dead is bad enough, but two of them outside of

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your home, that's pretty uh, that's pretty incredible. So police

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raced to the scene, and they came upon a mid

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to older aged white male face down in this driveway,

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clearly deceived beyond any help. Now, the gentleman did not

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appear to be homeless or a transient or anything like that.

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He was dressed in blue jeans. He had on a

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maroon polo. It was tucked nice and neat into his jeans.

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He had on a belt, he had on glasses on

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his face. But the position of his body, and I

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do have crime scene photos to show you for this,

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I'll put it on Patreon. But the position of his

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body is that his arms were stretched out from his side,

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like making a T shape, and his legs were straight

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out as well, but his feet were together like he

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just fell straight forward to his face and never moved again. Now,

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either side of the gravel driveway was lined with trees

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and palms, as well as a little grass well looking

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to the right side of the man's body. Across the street.

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On the other side or of the driveway, that's where

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the woman's body was located. So it was about eight

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feet away roughly, and she was lying on her side.

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She too, appeared to be of normal everyday life, not

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an addict or a homeless person or a transient. So, Kelly,

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why are you bringing this up? I just want you

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to get the feel about what this crime scene looked like.

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It wasn't like some drug addicts got some dope and

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ode'd or something like that. These people did not fit

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any type of idea that they should be laying out

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on a roadway. So she had on kaki pants with

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a light green shirt on, and it was just so

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odd for these multiple people to be lying there, not

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only because of multiple people, but because this area was

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a very quiet area, not a high crime rate by

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any stretch of the imagination. And also this wasn't their home.

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They did not belong there, So where did they come from? Well,

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that question would not be answered because no vehicle was

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found anywhere nearby. It wasn't like they drove there. Became

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very clear that they also had not walked there, so

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how did they get here? So but it didn't take

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long for police to figure out, Okay, wait a minute,

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we have two crime scenes and they are related, starting

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with the vehicle found by that business owner and now

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these two people that were on the ground. Because the

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bodies were reviewed and after initial photographs were taken at

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the scene, it was confirmed that they were definitely murdered.

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This was not natural circumstances and both of these people

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lying on the ground had been shot. The reason they

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knew that they had two crime scenes that were related

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is because they were able to positively ida that these were,

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in fact the Van Dusens that were deceased on the ground. Now,

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after they took their initial photographs, and they reviewed the scene,

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it was confirmed they were definitely murdered and that both

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had been shot. They could see the bullets in their

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bodies or see that they had been shot, so when

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the bodies were taken for autopsy, even more information would

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be brought to light. Not only had Rick been shot

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once in the back of the head, but also Carla

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had been shot in the head. But not only was

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she shot, but she had been stabbed twice in the chest.

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So was it possible that maybe this was a murder suicide?

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Is it something along those lines? Well that was kind

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of gonna be quickly dismissed because if it was a

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murder suicide, that would mean they had to walk there,

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and then he would have had to shoot and stab

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Carla and shoot himself. Well, then there's no way they

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could have walked there from their home. It was too

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far away and there was no vehicle there. So the

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gun that was used to shoot them was determined to

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be a nine millimeter handgun, and the knife that was

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used to stab Carla wasn't going to be this who

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done it mystery because the blade was actually un underneath

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her body when they rolled her over to put her

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on the gurney to take her in for her autopsy. Now,

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just because the knife was underneath her doesn't necessarily mean

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that that was the knife that stabbed her until it

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would be confirmed by DNA. But I'm here to tell

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you that was the knife that stabbed her. This wasn't

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this huge what stabbed her. Now, the knife was taken

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and it was sent to a crime lab for testing,

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and we would have to wait for those results to

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come in. But robbery of the couple did not seem likely.

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Police didn't feel that that was the case because Rick

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was found not only with his wallet on him, but

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he had a money clip that had eighty three dollars

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cash in it. He had on two valuable gold rings,

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he still had his cell phone, and he was wearing

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a nice watch. So if you're going to kill somebody

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to rob them, you would take everything it was still there.

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Carla was also wearing four valuable gold rings. She had

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on gold hoop earrings and watch as well. So it's

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almost like they were just executed and then the person

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left the scene. But why why was this couple killed?

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Investigators were really just shaking their heads at the whole

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situation because it just wasn't jiving, it wasn't making sense.

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Well as they're trying to think through this and come

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up with leads the victims' families in the meantime, they

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had to be notified about their murders, and to say

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shock filled, devastation pulse throughout their inner circle is really

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minimizing the impact that these people felt. Carla's son was

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quoted as saying, my god, I felt like, you know,

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my entire soul had been ripped from my body. His

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mama had been his sense of balance and support and

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unconditional love his entire life, and to just poof just

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be gone in an instant. He could not fathom why

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would someone want to hurt my mama. She was so kind,

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she was so easy going. He just you know, he

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almost just fell back and just cried as the realization

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hit him he would never talk to his mama again,

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and that thought was starting to set in. And no

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matter how old you get, I don't care how old

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you are, your mama is still your mama. And Jacob,

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like most of us, recognized that his mama was irreplaceable.

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This would not be something he could quickly move past.

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And someone else that was thrown into the pits of

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despair was Carla's mom. She almost could not take the news.

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No no, no, no, no, she can't be dead. I

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just spoke with her last night. There's no way what happened.

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What happened. But unfortunately there were just very limited answers

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to all of these questions. But detectives they were going

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to get to the bottom of all of this one

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way or another. And their first lead was almost just

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too easy. And you're like, how what do you mean

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with guys? While they're looking at the vehicle filled with

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blood and all of this, there was a literal license

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on the ground outside of the jeep, a license, like,

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let me see your license when you get pulled over.

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So what's on the license? A picture, a name, everything.

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The frickin' license is laying on the ground and it's

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not Carla's and it's not ricks. This license belonged to

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a man by the name of Henry Sullivan. Henry Sullivan

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was a blackmail and a background check revealed that he

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was a known criminal to the community. Now what type

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of criminal was he? I'm glad you asked, because I'm

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going to tell you he was a drug dealer. He was.

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He had been arrested in the past for battery, so

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he liked to hurt people, and he really did have

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a more extensive record. But this was no angel. Okay.

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But the beautiful thing about finding your license laying right

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outside of what a believed crime scene is that your

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address is on the ID. So police decided to go

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and pay him a visit. They drove up to his

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apartment and they knocked on the door. So Henry comes

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out and he is adamant that he did not know

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the Van Dousans. He had never spoken to the Van Dousans,

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nor had did he have anything to do with a

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double murder. Sure, okay, buddy, sounds good. Then why is

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your ID there? Why is your ID right outside of

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a vehicle presumed to have been the place where something

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went really, really wrong? What's the matter? Man? Cat got

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your tongue. You don't have anything to add to this.

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But the thing was, he couldn't explain why his license

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was outside of this jeep, couldn't explain it. Literally had

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nothing to add to the conversation. But there was more.

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But wait, there's more. A nine million bullet casing was

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recovered from inside of that jeep, and obviously police, based

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on all of this, were able to secure and execute

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a warrant on Henry's apartment. And guess what Henry owned

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not one, but two nine millimeter handguns. Now, as they're

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looking at these guns and they sent them off to

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the crime lab, one of them did not function, so

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this could not have been the murder weapon. The other one,

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once taken to the crime lab, was test fired. Bullet

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comparisons were done, but incredibly that one didn't match either.

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So just because these two weapons don't match, that doesn't

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mean he's not the killer though. I mean, he could

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have tossed the gun that he used whenever he killed

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the Van Dusen, so police would have to keep working

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on this. But the apartment itself didn't really turn up

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anything else of value to this case. So investigators decided

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to go do some canvassing in different areas because we

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have multiple crime scenes like like we've picked up here,

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and they would end up speaking to family and friends

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of the Van Dusans to try and establish a timeline

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of when the couple was last seen or heard from,

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or we could validate that they were actually alive, and

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this would prove extremely productive, starting with Carla's mother. So

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she told police she had spoken to Carla the night

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before their bodies were discovered, and that Carla told her

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that they were following someone who was going to buy

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their truck from them. So the police were like, okay,

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so they were going to sell the Jeep and she says, no, no, no,

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not the Jeep, their classic truck. So tell us about

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this truck, what do you mean? And she said, well, look,

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they were about to move. They were selling everything that

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they no longer needed before they were to move back

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to the North Carolina, and this included their nineteen seventy

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one Chevrolet truck, which was a fully restored, classic, nice truck. Well,

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police were now shocked a bit that this was said,

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because a truck that looked just like that would have

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definitely stood out to people. And that's exactly what happened

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because when they had gone to speak to Henry, that

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exact truck was parked outside of his apartment building. I know, right,

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you're like, duh, wait, what are you thinking? What are

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you fricking thinking, dude? So this case is literally like

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paint by numbers at this point, and Henry was an idiot.

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You don't kill two people first of all, and then

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steal their most obvious possession, this very easily identifiable truck,

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and then park it in front of your apartment. So

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in the meantime, there was also another neighbor that validated

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the driving store that Carla had told her mother to police.

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All right, so what did Carla's mom said? Her mom

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said that when she was speaking to Carla, she could

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hear the truck running in the background. I think it

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had that loud la la la type motor if you

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know what I'm saying. That the girl talk for cool truck. Okay,

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So it had that loud motor sound that came out.

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And she asked, Carla, are you in the truck because

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it's it's loud, and she said, no, I'm following Rick

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and the guy that's buying our truck. He knows where

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we can go to get the paperwork done tonight. And

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he said that he's got cash to pay for the truck. Now,

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they spoke for a total of thirty seven minutes in

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that conversation, which to me, in my humble opinion, means

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that this was not a quick or brief conversation. I mean,

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it's over half an hour that miss Billy, that was

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Carla's mama's name, was talking to her daughter. Well. Also

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a neighbor of Carla and Rick. His name was Christopher.

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I would say Coveyo, but it might be Coovillo. But

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he spoke to police during that canvas and he told

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them that, look, I saw Rick the night before he

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was found dead, and Rick was driving his classic truck

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by himself, but I saw Carla following him in their jeep.

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All right, So this is all starting to sound make sense.

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People are given the same story, but trying to hammer

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down their exact movements that night. Police knew that Carla

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had been speaking to her mother, and so phone records

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would come into play here because it was on a

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cell phone that that was happening. So, based on those

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cell phone records, between four forty five pm and six

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thirty seven PM, Carla and now presumably Rick in the

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lead went from Tierra Verde where they lived, through the

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Saint Petersburg area, and they ended up north of the

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Saint Petersburg area in a place known as Oldsmar. Now

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this was important because their bodies had been found just

469
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three point four four miles from the last recorded cell

470
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.319
tower that Carlo's phone had connected to. So the travel

471
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.759
seemed to be on point as far as speaking on

472
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:16.200
the phone. But what happened after six thirty seven pm

473
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.759
whenever she hung up the phone. Did the couple think

474
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.359
that they were selling the truck to Henry and then

475
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.160
he murdered them and stole the truck? That seemed to

476
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.519
be the running theme here. Well, turned out call it

477
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:31.079
bad luck or whatever you want to call it. But Henry,

478
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.480
it turned out, had also been involved in a traffic

479
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.400
stop the very night of the murders. And guess what

480
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.759
it was, right in the proximity of where the jeep

481
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:48.720
had been found. Hmm, again, call it a clue. But

482
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:53.359
looking further into that whole traffic stop, even though Henry's

483
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.480
name was the one run in the system by the

484
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.559
police officer, it was found that it actually wasn't Henry

485
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.880
that was pulled over. It was actually his convict brother

486
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.440
who had tried to use his name and ID to

487
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.680
avoid being arrested during the stop. All right, So why

488
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.000
had he given his brother's name Henry's name? Well, he

489
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:16.000
had a warrant out for whatever criminal activity he had done,

490
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.319
and he was trying to avoid going to jail, so

491
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.920
he lied about his name. Now at this realization, police

492
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:24.880
kind of shifted and they're like, okay, is it possible

493
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:28.359
that maybe his brother was the killer of the Van Dousans.

494
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:32.640
So police went back to Henry Sullivan's apartment and this

495
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.359
time they were focused on the Van Dousans truck that

496
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.880
was still parked at the apartment complex, and so they

497
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:42.599
began to photograph it and look over the truck when

498
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:45.720
another man came out and asked them, Hey, what are

499
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.839
y'all doing? What's going on out here? Well, police were

500
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.960
obviously not wanting to entertain a nosy neighbor. They were

501
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.440
doing business like get out of your shoe fly. But

502
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.200
that's whenever he stated off the cuff that why are

503
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.759
y'all looking at my truck? And so the police look up,

504
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.799
like what what do you mean your truck? And he's like, yeah,

505
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.240
this is my truck. Like wait, okay, hold on, who

506
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.720
the hell are you why what do you have to

507
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.599
do with any of this? Well, it turns out that

508
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:16.880
this was another neighbor that lived in that apartment complex

509
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.240
and his name was William Deparving or Deparvan, you could

510
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.519
say either way of departing so William was just a

511
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.400
very average looking dude. Again, this is a white guy,

512
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.759
which versus Henry and his brother, who were black. I'm

513
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.240
bringing this up because two very different looking people in

514
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.359
this story, and there's no way that they were related

515
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:42.400
by blood, at least in this whole scenario. So he said, yeah,

516
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.759
I owned the truck. I bought this truck the day before. So,

517
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.680
as you can imagine, police are literally now dumbfounded as

518
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.200
to what the hell is going on. Who is this

519
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.880
William deparving? Well, like I told you, he lived in

520
00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:01.079
the same complex, very very easy going, average dude, spoke

521
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:06.720
freely with the police, very quite pleasant, honestly, and he said, yeah,

522
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:08.640
I bought it yesterday. I bought it for sixty five

523
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:12.640
hundred dollars cash, and after I bought it, they delivered

524
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.680
it to my apartment and then we completed the sale

525
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.519
and he was even able to provide a bill of sale.

526
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.440
It backed up everything that this gentleman was telling them.

527
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.200
So police are like, all right, well let's do a

528
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.720
little background check on him, let's see what he's about.

529
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.640
And this proved to be very interesting. So backing up,

530
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.240
William had when he was younger, when he was a teenager,

531
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.480
he had gotten his girlfriend pregnant and as a result

532
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.240
of that, he ended up marrying her. And although it

533
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.759
was a very rough start, this actually turned out to

534
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.279
be kind of an amazing story because he was smart

535
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.359
enough to not only marry his college girlfriend because I

536
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.160
mean high school girlfriend because he got a pregnant, but

537
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:01.559
he was able to put himself not only through college,

538
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.400
but law school. So they ended up having three daughters

539
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:10.880
throughout their marriage. But that sounds great, but as is

540
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.720
the case, it's there. There's more to this because there

541
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:18.440
was also a sinister side to this William guy. He too,

542
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:24.799
like Henry, had an extensive felony record. Now on top

543
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.359
of that, he had just been released from a nine

544
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:36.480
year prison stint for what was called weapons violation violation charges. Okay, interesting,

545
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.359
but he had a bill of sale, a legitimate one

546
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:45.680
for this truck, and now the previous owners are debt.

547
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.039
So police are really looking at this multi pronged situation

548
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.000
that they are in the middle of, and obviously this

549
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:55.200
warranted more of a discussion. But William completely obliged and

550
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.400
he told police everything that he could basically about the sale.

551
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:01.839
So he said the Van Dusan sold me the truck

552
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.119
and we test drove it the night before. After we

553
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.559
did the test drive, they delivered it to my apartment

554
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:09.880
and that's when we went and we got the paperwork

555
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.119
finished and that was that. I mean, that's pretty much

556
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.160
the end of it. So this got the investigators thinking,

557
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:21.440
did Henry or maybe even his brother possibly carjack the

558
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:27.519
Van Dousans and rob them after they delivered the classic

559
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:31.279
truck to Deparvane, maybe because they would have had to

560
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.519
show up in the jeep while they delivered the truck. Well,

561
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.640
they're talking again. Police are still talking to other people

562
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.480
and doing canvassing of the area, and eye witnesses that

563
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.039
they were able to get in touch with would vouch

564
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.119
for Henry's brother. Okay, his name was Justin, the one

565
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.240
that gave Henry's name when he got pulled over and

566
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.680
they said he was with us. He was absolutely with

567
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.680
us the night in question. We were at a club,

568
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.960
we were partying, and police were actually able to validate

569
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:04.039
this and they did rule Henry's brother Justin. Well, CSI

570
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.599
would now come into play here because when they were

571
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:10.440
processing the jeep, not the truck, the jeep, I told

572
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:14.679
you that blood was found throughout the inside of the jeep,

573
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.920
but they found blood not only on the passenger side,

574
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.679
but they were also able to find blood on the

575
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:25.000
driver side. Now, a total of five different samples had

576
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.239
been taken from different points on the steering wheel of

577
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.440
the jeep. Specifically, there was also other samples taken, but

578
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.199
I want to make sure you understand. The steering wheel

579
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.679
is where they got these these samples. And four of

580
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:41.880
those stains on that steering wheel came back as someone

581
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:47.519
other than the Van Deusan's. Not only that, but one

582
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.440
of the samples they took had a mixture of blood

583
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:57.199
stain coming from the unknown person's DNA and Rick's DNA.

584
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.559
This is huge, So police he now wanted a DNA

585
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.480
sample from Henry. He was but Henry was willing to

586
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.239
provide that DNA sample. So the testing was run and

587
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.519
the day came back for the results rendering. Now police

588
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.920
were ready, They had their handcuffs loaded, they had their

589
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.119
their their vests on and everything, and they're pretty much

590
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.679
basically ready to go get this guy. They just had

591
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.719
to have the proof before they go to grab him.

592
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:31.280
But shock is what came because that unknown DNA did

593
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:36.239
not match Henry. He was not the contributor of this

594
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:40.239
of this blood. So now the question became, all right,

595
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.239
well who the hell was bleeding in the truck, So

596
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.519
that obviously, if it's not Henry, this is going to

597
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.320
place eyes closer on William de Parvan because he was

598
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.239
the last one known to be with the Van Dusans,

599
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.599
although something could have happened to them after the truck sailed,

600
00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.880
and nobody was denying that. But I mean, they really

601
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.199
had no other lead at this point, and so they

602
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.760
wanted to look down all of these avenues. So police

603
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.719
really wanted to rule out William de Parven and they

604
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.639
asked him, hey, man, can we get a DNA sample

605
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:12.800
from you? We just want to rule you out. But

606
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:18.280
Deparvan said no, Well, in his defense, I want to

607
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.920
bring something up. He had gone to law school, don't

608
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:28.039
forget that, and he had been in prison. So those

609
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:31.400
two things, you know, totality of circumstance matters in every

610
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.239
aspect of life. Good people, bad people. People who've screwed

611
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.440
up and gone to prison and then turn their life around.

612
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.679
Their perception of things. Everyone's perception is going to be different.

613
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.079
And he probably was not wanting to comply out of

614
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:48.960
either fear of being set up or some other bullshit.

615
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.000
But remember you do prison time, you look at law

616
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.000
enforcement different in whatever means that may be. But the

617
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:59.960
trust there was limited. So this made the police officers

618
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.880
job even harder because the ParvE knew the law. He

619
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:05.800
knew that he did not have to give up his

620
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.719
DNA sample and he didn't want to do it. So

621
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:11.519
this became kind of like a cat and mouse game.

622
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.639
They had no other direct suspects, and now this guy

623
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.199
was kind of making it more difficult. But hey, y'all,

624
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:19.679
he had a right to not give it. There was

625
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.800
no probable cause, nothing, And I want everyone to understand that.

626
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.440
Don't just look at him crazy because he refused to

627
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.360
give it. He had a bill of sale for the truck.

628
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.119
Everything he said happened was panning out, why do you

629
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.199
need my DNA? I've already gone to prison and I

630
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.760
don't want to be set up on anything else. Well

631
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.119
he may not have wanted to give the DNA, that's fine,

632
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.039
but the police were going to get it one way

633
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.719
or the other. And what I mean is this was

634
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:48.599
going to be easier said than done. But that was

635
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:53.440
because William was very careful with anything that could have

636
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:57.639
held his DNA. They put up surveillance on him, and

637
00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:59.800
they started watching him to see if they could get

638
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.559
some thing from him. But he would not leave trash

639
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:08.039
or anything out that the police could take. Even when

640
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.360
he was on the job they followed him. He weren't construction,

641
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.440
he wasn't leaving anything there. He would take every single

642
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:18.119
thing back with him to his apartment or to his

643
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:20.960
vehicle or whatever. So they put up surveillance on this guy,

644
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.880
and he lived a very boring and monotonous life like

645
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.599
most of us. He went to work, he went home,

646
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.599
he went to sleep, and this went on for months

647
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.519
and months and months, all the while the Van Dusen's

648
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:37.760
murder case is really just kind of at a stalemate.

649
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:45.800
He remained under surveillance for months, and in that time,

650
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.239
he decided to go to the mall one day. So

651
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:53.519
a team of people of investigators or detectives or whatever,

652
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.519
we're following him. Now, I don't want to get into this.

653
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:58.639
It was around Christmas time, though, and when you're setting

654
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.800
up surveillance on someone, you don't want to be a

655
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.320
one man show, because anyone, especially someone who's been to

656
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:08.480
prison or someone who knows that his DNA has wanted

657
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.400
and he's gone to law school. He's not an idiot.

658
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.400
He's going to know that they may be following me.

659
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.159
So you would want to have multiple people. You would

660
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.000
want to have a team to do this, especially in

661
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.679
a mall setting. So if he started to pick up on, hey,

662
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:21.679
this guy's with me everywhere in the green shirt in

663
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.119
the baseball cap, you want to have a team. So

664
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:25.840
that guy in the green shirt and baseball cap could

665
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.239
kind of sauner off into another store, but you still

666
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:32.039
got other people that can keep tabs on him whenever

667
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.639
you're following him. So they're following him throughout the mall

668
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.000
and eventually he decides that he wants to get some

669
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.880
ice cream. But when he was done, he threw the cup,

670
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:44.280
but also the spoon in the trash. Now, he had

671
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:48.280
been raking that spoon across his mouth, you know, very slowly,

672
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.519
every single time. So there was probably DNA on that spoon.

673
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:55.199
So police swoop into that trash can after he walks off,

674
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.599
and they pull that spoon and that cup out of

675
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:03.440
the can. Now, wouldn't you know it, But when it

676
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:07.280
came back from the DNA came back from the crime lab,

677
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.679
it was a match for the blood found in the truck.

678
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:19.519
It was William de Parvain's blood mixed with Rick Vandusen's DNA.

679
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.800
So not only that, but it was a total of

680
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:28.920
six different bloodstains that had this DNA to be clear.

681
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:34.360
So William de parvan was immediately promptly arrested and charged

682
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.719
with the murders of the Van Dousans. But y'all, this

683
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.320
would prove just the very beginning of some questions that

684
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.559
would be raised, because when it became time for court,

685
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:51.280
things got really really interesting. William de Parvein was now

686
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.960
going to give a very detailed account of the truck

687
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.159
sail events that night with the Van Dousans, and some

688
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.679
of this wasn't meant before, but I want to tell

689
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.079
you what was said. This was William de Parven's account

690
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.960
of the truck sale. Now before November of twenty twenty three,

691
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.800
when he bought the truck from them. He was looking

692
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.199
to purchase a pickup truck for about a six month

693
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:19.639
period and that's when he saw the Van Dousans run

694
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:23.320
an ad in the newspaper promoting the truck for sale.

695
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.840
So the morning of Sunday, November the twenty third, two

696
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.119
thousand and three. He said he spoke with Rick van Dusan,

697
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.239
who gave him directions to their home that was in

698
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:36.880
Tierra Verde. That obviously had to be true because that's

699
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.760
where the police found that they lived, so that was

700
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:42.880
the location of their home. So they rode together and

701
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.760
they're test driving the truck. When they got within about

702
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:48.320
three quarters of a mile away from the Van Dusan's

703
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.159
home and the truck ran out of gas, They're like,

704
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.760
what the hell, man, dang it, So they both get

705
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:55.880
out of the truck. They walked back to the Van

706
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.320
Dusan's home, where Rick got a gas can that was

707
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.320
about three quarter of the way full, and then they

708
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.920
both together got in their jeep and drove back to

709
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.360
where the truck was, and he said that Rick was

710
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:10.920
driving the jeep when they went back to the truck.

711
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.559
Rick then poured gas into the gas tank of the truck,

712
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:18.800
but it wouldn't start, so they decided, we probably need

713
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:22.199
to prime the carburetor. That'll get it going. So Rick

714
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.760
got in the truck and he had the key in

715
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.800
the ignition and was turning it while William de Parvein

716
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:32.440
primed the carburetor. Now, as he was priming that carburetor

717
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.760
and where it was in the engine, he said, look,

718
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.280
I already had a scab on my right index finger

719
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.360
from work. I had cut myself and it was scabbed over.

720
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:48.119
So he said, as they were priming it, he said,

721
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:51.800
he accidentally ripped that scab off of his finger, and

722
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.599
his finger had started bleeding. I mean, whatever, he's a man.

723
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.800
He didn't think anything of it, in that it wouldn't matter. Well,

724
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.599
after the truck started, Rick drove the truck to a

725
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.840
gas station, and William de Parvene said he followed him

726
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.800
in the jeep driving. Rick then put gas in the

727
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.880
truck and the two of them drove back to the

728
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.800
Van Duson's home in the same manner. Rick didn't want

729
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.159
to get out of the truck because that was a

730
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.000
valuable thing, so he let him drive the jeep. That

731
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.480
wasn't you know, the classic And he said, so obviously

732
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.199
my cut finger was on the steering wheel while I

733
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.800
was driving. He said. We stayed at their house for

734
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.320
about two hours, and that's whenever Rick showed him the

735
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:37.239
original title to the truck. Now, William Deparvein told Rick

736
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.840
that he had sixty five hundred dollars six five hundred

737
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.280
dollars in cash for the truck, and Rick said, fine,

738
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.679
I'll take it. I just need to get rid of

739
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.639
this truck so we can move. And Rick was then

740
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.159
able to show William deparven there were no leans on

741
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.039
the truck. It was good to go. The sale was great.

742
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:59.440
So depar Vain had only brought fifteen hundred dollars cash

743
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.000
with him as a deposit, he said, he gave him

744
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:07.280
that deposit and Rick wrote him out a receipt. De

745
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.920
Parvein then gave Rick a blank bill of sale for

746
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.440
Rick to complete and then that's that when they agreed.

747
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.519
After all that was said and done, the Van Dusans

748
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.800
would deliver the truck to the apartment complex, which is

749
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.159
in Saint Petersburg, and they were to bring it on

750
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:26.000
November twenty fifth, two thousand and three, after three pm.

751
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:29.760
As expected. Around five point thirty, Rick arrived in the truck.

752
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.800
Carla followed him in the jeep. He said, look y'all,

753
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:34.840
drive around to the back of the complex. That's where

754
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:41.039
where we can complete everything. And incredibly, in this story

755
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:45.280
that deparvan is explaining, incredibly, you would not believe this.

756
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:54.199
But Deparvain said, another person driving another vintage truck very

757
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.639
similar to the ones that the Van Dussans had just delivered,

758
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:03.400
was driving by, and the driver of that truck was

759
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:06.719
a white male in his mid fifties, with salt and

760
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.360
pepper colored hair, a receding hairline, and the guy was

761
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:16.719
wearing glasses. Now, Head's kind of cocked up at that testimony,

762
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.880
because strangely, that description is almost a dead ringer for

763
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:27.840
William Deparvein. So he says, when that vintage truck goes by,

764
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:31.360
they all had gotten into the jeep of the VANDU

765
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:34.119
since to complete the transaction, and that's where he gave

766
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.440
them the remaining five thousand dollars balance of the sales

767
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:41.239
price in cash to Rick, and then Rick gave him

768
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.639
the notarized bill of sale indicating the full purchase price

769
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:49.280
of sixty five hundred dollars. At that time, though Rick

770
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.679
hadn't been able to find the title to the truck,

771
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:52.960
but he said, look, I will bring it to you

772
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.360
after Thanksgiving. Let us have our holiday and then we'll

773
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.440
bring it to you. But here's the kicker. Here's the

774
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:02.239
kicker that you really need to consider. How in the

775
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.320
hell did this William de Parvein have that kind of money,

776
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:11.239
that kind of cash to pay for this truck. Remember

777
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:14.920
he had been in prison, he was just now released.

778
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:17.480
Where did you get that kind of money after being

779
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:21.840
in prison for ten years? And that's whenever he said, uh, well,

780
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.199
maybe you should ask more questions, because he said I

781
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.000
had inherited a Rolex watch when I was in prison

782
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.480
from a terminally ill inmate. All right, well who was

783
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.599
this inmate? He said, well, his name was Bill Jamison

784
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.880
and he was terminally ill, and I inherited a Rolex

785
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:41.480
watch from him. But police weren't stupid. They had gone

786
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:45.920
to the prison and pulled to Parvein's property list, because

787
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:48.320
when you go to prison, everything that you bring in

788
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.039
and you take out is going to be listed on

789
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.639
that property list. And there was no such watch ever

790
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:57.559
found on the property list. And he said, well, hang

791
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.800
on a second, it wouldn't be there. And that's because

792
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.639
I had to smuggle this watch out of the prison

793
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.760
when I left. Can't have a Rolex up in prison.

794
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.280
I had to smuggle it out when he gave it

795
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.320
to me. And he said the way I did it

796
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:14.360
was I hid it in the ground in the visitors

797
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.000
park that we had at the facility. I dug a hole.

798
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.119
I put it in the ground, and he said when

799
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.000
I before I knew I was getting out, I dug

800
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.719
it back up at visitation and then I smuggled it

801
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.599
out of the prison whenever I left. And I sold

802
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:30.119
that watch after I ran an ad which you can

803
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.079
go look up. I ran an ad in the Saint

804
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.360
Petersburg Times and someone decided that they were going to

805
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.800
buy the watch. That's where I got the money. So

806
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:43.800
police wouldn't check that out. But guys, he did. He did.

807
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:48.559
He ran a one day ad on October twenty sixth,

808
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:51.639
two thousand and three, and specifically he was selling a

809
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:56.280
presidential Rolex watch and he said that he sold it

810
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.199
to a guy that showed up with a couple of

811
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:01.880
other Hispanic guys and he got seven thousand dollars for

812
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:07.800
that watch. Cool, but here's something he didn't take into consideration.

813
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.480
Let me ask you a question. If you sold a

814
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.039
watch and you got seven grand for it, what are

815
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.400
you gonna do with that money? What are you gonna

816
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.760
do with it? Most people are gonna tell you they'll

817
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.719
go put it in the bank. We can agree on that,

818
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:27.159
we'll go put it in the bank. Why then, when

819
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:32.679
they did an audit of William Deparvain's bank account was

820
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.840
it found that the highest balance ever recorded in his

821
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.360
bank account at the time that he's saying that he

822
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.400
sold this watch, his highest balance was eight hundred and

823
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.480
twenty six dollars and twenty one cents. So you're just

824
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:49.639
gonna keep that kind of cash on you, that's what

825
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:51.840
you're gonna do. And he said, yeah, I kept the

826
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.159
cash at my apartment. Now, I'm gonna tell you something

827
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:56.840
right now, I don't believe that for one second. And

828
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:02.639
this is why an apartment complex full of criminals that

829
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:06.599
are living there. You know, Henry, Henry, he was a criminal,

830
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.639
His brother was a criminal. You're gonna be in an

831
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:11.280
apartment complex that you know is full of CD characters,

832
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.039
and you know what type of people they are, because

833
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.440
you've done prison time, You've spent a lot of time

834
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.880
with people of this caliber, and you're just gonna leave

835
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:23.199
that kind of cash lying around. I don't know about you,

836
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.239
but in the words of Kellen of Kevin McAllister from

837
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:29.480
Home Alone, I don't think so, especially when you have

838
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:33.320
a bank account. So let me lay this all out

839
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.920
for you, because this is some of the most evil

840
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:43.320
planning and it shows the absolute complexity of a smart,

841
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:48.079
very smart killer. Because I'm here to tell you William

842
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:53.199
de Parvain killed that couple and the whole thing had

843
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:58.320
been well planned out from the jump. William de parvan

844
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.000
When they did testing on him, he was found to

845
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.960
be above average intellect and specifically I found that he

846
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.280
exceeded eighty one percent of adults in his age, So

847
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.039
he is very smart. To start, let's just start here.

848
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.960
There is no way in hell that Rick van Dusen

849
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:21.320
was selling a truck of that level for sixty five

850
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.599
hundred dollars. The value was estimated to be more than

851
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:29.079
double Okay what that truck was sold for. Why would

852
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.280
he take such a cut? Well de parven is saying, oh, well,

853
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:34.639
he was moving. He just wanted to move it. Well,

854
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.559
not so fast because to further my point about the truck,

855
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:42.519
Rick had placed it with an auctioneer for around seventeen

856
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.679
thousand dollars and he had even rejected a bid of

857
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:51.360
fifteen thousand dollars. Not only that, Rick had been talking

858
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.039
to his coworkers about it and bub selling this truck,

859
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:57.000
and one of his coworkers would testify that he told

860
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.840
them he had found a buyer now for thirteen thousand,

861
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.280
five hundred, which was lower than what he had rejected,

862
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.039
but he was going to sell it for that. But

863
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.360
William de Parvein wouldn't have had any way of knowing

864
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.440
that when he concocted his whole story of selling of

865
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.599
buying it for sixty five hundred dollars. Now here's the

866
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.119
kicker too. The Van Dousins had run multiple ads for

867
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:24.400
multiple months on the truck that they had for sale,

868
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:27.920
and when William de parvan saw it, he wanted it

869
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.760
from the start, and that's when he set his plan

870
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.719
in motion. He ran that one day ad one day

871
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:40.679
that magically sold a seven thousand dollars Rolex, which of

872
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.519
course there's no proof of whatsoever ever being owned, transferred

873
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:48.559
or anything. And this was to cover him because remember

874
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.840
he was trained in law, and he knew he was

875
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.119
going to be asked how he got the money. He

876
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:58.559
concocted that entire rolex story. After he did that, and

877
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.440
he was able to concoct that's story, he then inquired

878
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:05.079
about the truck, and in doing so he gained intel

879
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.920
on the Van Dousans without them even realizing. And this

880
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:13.000
was so he could aid in concocting a stronger story.

881
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:16.360
So let's start with why did they go so low

882
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:18.320
with what they were willing to sell it for even

883
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.760
though they had listed it for much higher. Well, he

884
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.880
knew that they were moving and were all floating items.

885
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.599
Think about it. You go go test drive a truck

886
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:29.679
and you say, man, this is great. Why are you

887
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.199
selling this beauty? And then someone just dat da da

888
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:34.400
da da da da, because they're expecting you to be

889
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.239
a normal person, not setting them up to murder them.

890
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:40.679
So he told them all of that. Boom, Now they've

891
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:43.440
got all the things that they need. He needs to

892
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.519
build an even stronger story. You'd be shocked how much

893
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.039
people will tell you just by listening and you asking

894
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:53.079
a question. So, now that the funds were covered, or

895
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:56.159
the alleged funds were covered by the concocted story, now

896
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:57.920
he had to make them believe that he was a

897
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:01.280
real buyer. Well, when I warrant was done on that truck,

898
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.239
there were documents found in it where the Van Dusans

899
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:09.800
had found another buyer because they were going to sell

900
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:15.360
it for eighteen thousand, nine hundred dollars. But the parvan

901
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.320
hadn't gone through all those documents yet because they only

902
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.800
had the car for a day before. There were questions

903
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:25.119
being raised. But that bill of sale that he was

904
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:30.239
able to provide, he forged that. He forged that bill

905
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.480
of sale and it was dated November twenty fifth of

906
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.239
two thousand and three, with the purchase price of sixty

907
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.599
five hundred dollars. Now, let me tell you why I

908
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:42.679
know that or think that, because the notary that notarized

909
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.760
that bill of sale, it was a legit notarized bill

910
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.000
of sale. But they found the notary who testified that

911
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:56.320
Rick Rick, who she personally knew, he asked her to

912
00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.719
notarize the bill of sale on November twenty fifth. But

913
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:02.920
right now you're going, well, wait a minute. If that happened, Kelly,

914
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.239
then why do you think it was forged? You gotta

915
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.000
hang on for one second. I told you that this

916
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:12.280
was calculating, So listen to this. I have to step aside,

917
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.000
pause what I just told you, and tell you another

918
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:18.679
story real quick for you to really fully grasp this one. Okay,

919
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:24.360
do you believe in patterns in people? Because I do.

920
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:27.400
I think that We all have patterns that we follow,

921
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:33.559
Like what about what if I told you that there

922
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.880
was another man that had been selling a truck in

923
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:40.079
August of two thousand and three, and his name was

924
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:43.400
George Harrington. He was selling a nineteen ninety six f

925
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.960
one to fifty pickup truck and he was asking seventy

926
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:51.320
eight hundred dollars. Deparvan had inquired about this and he

927
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:55.199
wanted to buy the truck, but before he did, he

928
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:57.840
asked that man if he could take the truck to

929
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:02.519
Oldsmar where his machare friend could inspect it, and then

930
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.320
he said, upon good inspection, I'll pay cash for it.

931
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:09.000
I keep the money at my friend's house. I'm assuming

932
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:13.039
the mechanic friend's house there. So they were going to

933
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:14.920
go through with the sale of the truck. Guess what

934
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.760
Deparvan gave George. He gave him a blank bill of

935
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:23.159
sale and asked him to go have it notarized, which

936
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:27.840
the man did. But the sale never took place. So

937
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:32.519
George never met or spoke with this this Oldsmar friend.

938
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:37.519
The sale just never took place. It never happened. Does

939
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.159
that not sound like a test run to you to

940
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:44.599
see if someone would get a notarized document before the meetup,

941
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.760
because it does to me, it sounds like that was

942
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:53.199
a test run. Pretend to go get the paperwork completed,

943
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:59.199
but then kill the people before you know they're ever

944
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:02.000
able to to complete the sale, and then you do

945
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:05.800
the fake watch thing to make up for where the

946
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:07.599
money came from. Are you following me on this? It's

947
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:11.719
very very sinister. Also, the bodies of the Van Dusans

948
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:16.119
were also found right near the location where Deparvein was

949
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:19.920
going to bring the first guy right there. I'm telling

950
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.639
you that man avoided being murdered and had no clue

951
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:28.280
at that point, so they drove just like Carla's mother

952
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.920
had said that they did. Deparvey knew that he had

953
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.079
to obtain a bill of sale from Rick prior to

954
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.559
the actual completed sale. He needed the paperwork done because

955
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:42.760
Bill and Carla were not going to survive the completed sale.

956
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:44.760
They were never gonna make it there. Rick just had

957
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.639
to get that notarized document done and then he could

958
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:50.440
forge it. When they stopped, they all got in the

959
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.000
jeep and said, hey, let's go do this paperwork. And

960
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:56.159
that's whenever they went to Oldsmar where his quote unquote

961
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:59.199
friend that did paperwork was and that's whenever they went

962
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.480
on that dirt road. When Rick pulled a gun and

963
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:06.039
pointed it at them. He demanded that Rick get out

964
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.760
of that vehicle. Carla is in shock. She stays in

965
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:10.360
the car because she doesn't know what the hell is

966
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.079
going on. Maybe he's just gonna rob us. Rick does

967
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.639
what he's told. He keeps his hands up, he gets

968
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.280
out of the car. He puts his hands out. Please

969
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:20.360
don't shoot me. Please can you see it, Please don't

970
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.800
shoot me. Take whatever you want. And that is when

971
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.559
William de parvan put that pistol to the back of

972
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:28.880
that innocent man's head and he blew his brains out.

973
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:33.079
He flew straight forward and slammed down to the ground. Now, Carla,

974
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.719
bless her heart, watched all of this happen, and she

975
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.960
remained in the car. But right after her beloved husband

976
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.840
was murdered in front of her, William de Parvein turned

977
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.239
right where he stood, pointed the gun through the windshield,

978
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.039
and he started shooting at her. She threw up her

979
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:51.320
left hand as if to stop it. We all know

980
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.280
that your hand's not gonna stop a bullet, but it's

981
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.559
all she had to try and defend herself. She wanted to.

982
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:57.920
It was like she was trying to block what she

983
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.519
saw coming. She threw up her left hand like this

984
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:04.039
if you're watching me podcast, and whenever he shot, it

985
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:06.920
went through the windshield, it went through her hand, which

986
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:10.079
is evidenced by autopsy, and it went straight into her.

987
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:14.000
So she's now shot in the head. She's bleeding out

988
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.679
on the seat, which makes total sense, slightly slumped over

989
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:19.559
to her right, and that's when William de Parvaine opened

990
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.119
the door. But he couldn't get her seat belt undone,

991
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.159
so he took the knife that he had and he

992
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.079
cut her seat belt off of her, where he nipped

993
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.280
himself in the process because of all of the adrenaline

994
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:32.920
that was gushing in him. He drug her out of

995
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:36.079
the car. He stabbed her twice with that same knife

996
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.519
before he dumped her on the side of the road

997
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:42.000
next to her deceased husband. And after he did that,

998
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.000
he shut the door. The seat belt continued to hang out,

999
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.280
just like the vehicle was found. And with this bleeding finger,

1000
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.519
he drove the jeep, leaving that blood deposited on the

1001
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.920
steering wheel and he went and he parked it at

1002
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:57.239
that abandoned parking lot where the vandusins had left that truck,

1003
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.599
and he abandoned it there and planted, according to the police,

1004
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:05.599
planted the ID of Henry. Now they say that they

1005
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.559
think that he either stole the ID from Henry whatever,

1006
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:10.519
and he planted it there to try to set him up.

1007
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:14.119
That is so sinister, that is so dark. I'm more

1008
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.400
inclined to think that maybe it was dropped there by

1009
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.719
accident and whatever, but I also don't believe in coincidences,

1010
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:22.360
so police are probably right on this one. He lived

1011
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.840
in the same apartment complex, he could have gotten it

1012
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:30.679
from him. Now, Also, William Deparven gave this full timeline

1013
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:33.400
of events where things happened, but it couldn't be because

1014
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.079
he said that Carla and her husband left there his

1015
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:39.360
apartment around five thirty PM after dropping the truck, and

1016
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.880
he paid for it. But that couldn't be because what

1017
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:46.559
William van, what William Deparvey didn't know, is that Carla

1018
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:49.360
was on the phone with her mama and that was

1019
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:53.840
all going down around six thirty. It did not jive

1020
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:56.719
and it could not have been that way. And there

1021
00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:58.679
was a whole lot more in terms of testimony, but

1022
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.679
I'm gonna leave you with this in here. What if

1023
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:04.719
I told you that William de Parvein was on work

1024
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:10.079
release from prison when this happened. He was on parole,

1025
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.920
he was let out, he was still being monitored and

1026
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.000
that nine year stint. Remember how I told you his

1027
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.639
weapons violation, Well there's a little bit more to that.

1028
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:27.239
It actually stemmed from a sting operation involving none other

1029
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.760
than a vehicle sale. He took out an ad in

1030
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:36.800
a newspaper and he was selling a Harley Davidson allegedly

1031
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:41.360
at an extremely discounted rate. Well, some motorcycle enthusiasts that

1032
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:44.320
were shopping those ads were looking at this and from

1033
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:47.440
the jump they suspected that this was an absolute scam.

1034
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.239
They couldn't believe that someone would sell a motorcycle that cheap,

1035
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.639
and so they did their due diligence and they called

1036
01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:55.880
law enforcement. These people said, look, this guy is saying

1037
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:58.239
that he is selling a Harley Davidson really cheap. I

1038
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:02.039
think that this is a scam. Well, police agreed, and

1039
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:06.840
so when Deparvan was asked by a prospective buyer, or

1040
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:09.400
when he told the prospective buyer, go ahead and just

1041
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:12.639
bring four thousand dollars cash with you and then I

1042
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.800
will ride with you to Tarpin Springs and we will

1043
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:20.119
make the sale. An undercover cop went along with them.

1044
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:24.960
Does this not sound familiar? And whenever he was arrested

1045
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.320
and they stopped the whole thing. Guess what they found

1046
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:31.880
on William Deparvan during that setup. They found a gun

1047
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:35.840
on him, a concealed gun in the possession of a felon.

1048
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:38.440
That's why it was a weapons charge. He ran the

1049
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.599
same scam on these people that he ran on the

1050
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:53.519
Van Dousans, but he this time decided that he was boom. Sorry,

1051
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:57.159
he was running the same scam that he ran on

1052
01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:00.880
the Van Dousans. It's like, you can absolutely tell the

1053
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.159
pattern that's going on here. And by the way, the

1054
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:06.159
place that this guy was being taken to in Tarpin

1055
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:09.159
Springs to finish this, that was supposedly this barn where

1056
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:11.679
the sale was gonna take place, there was no barn.

1057
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:14.920
And I know you know this. There was no motorcycle.

1058
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:18.119
It is the exact same thing. So this is now

1059
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:21.800
the third time in one story that this guy has

1060
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:24.760
tried this. He murdered the Van Dousons doing it. He

1061
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:26.719
had tried to set up a buyer for a Harley

1062
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:28.920
Davidson and asked him to bring cash. And then there

1063
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:30.719
was the other guy selling the truck that he had

1064
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:32.599
him go get the bill of sale ahead of time

1065
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:35.639
and get it notarized. This was not his first rodeo.

1066
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:38.440
This was not a setup by police. This was an

1067
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:42.679
absolute fucking criminal doing what criminals do. And what were

1068
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:46.320
the other charges on William de Parven's record. He had

1069
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:50.079
grand theft, he had forgery, and he also had arson.

1070
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.199
And if you dig in to this arson case, it's

1071
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:56.119
actually even more scary than it sounds. It wasn't like

1072
01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:58.559
he just lit something on fire for the fun of it. No,

1073
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:02.360
he was trying to settle a dispute with someone over

1074
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:06.559
rent and when he didn't get his way, he poured

1075
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:12.119
a gasoline ring around the home and then set that

1076
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:16.199
bitch on fire, lit it up, and inside of that

1077
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:19.599
house was a woman with her three children and they

1078
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:23.039
were all asleep. But thank god everybody lived through that.

1079
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:26.960
This guy was a monster. He was a monster. So

1080
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.840
for him to play these games like the oh, you know,

1081
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:31.719
maybe I'm gonna get set up, or I don't trust

1082
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:33.800
the police. You know what, the police don't fucking trust you,

1083
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:40.159
and neither should society. William de Parvein is an evil, selfish,

1084
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:46.480
and intelligent human being. It's a killer combo. Literally. It

1085
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:50.639
took the jury just three hours to find him guilty

1086
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:53.679
on both counts of first degree murder and one count

1087
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:57.719
of armed carjacking. And of course, in the penalty phase,

1088
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:00.880
his team brought up his sad high childhood where he

1089
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.239
didn't feel loved and he didn't receive any affection or

1090
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.760
words of encouragement from his parents, and he had depression.

1091
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:13.599
So sad, What else is this guy gonna do? Well,

1092
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:16.400
I'll tell you what he's gonna do, because on January ninth,

1093
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:19.599
two thousand and six, he was sentenced to death for

1094
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:22.880
the murders of the Van Dousans and the victims in

1095
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:25.719
this case, y'all, it goes full circle, and I'm gonna

1096
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:29.880
acknowledge this. The Van Dousan's children wanted the death penalty

1097
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:34.639
for their parents. They wanted this guy to die for

1098
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.400
what he did to their parents. But there are more

1099
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.480
victims than this too, and it's William de Parvan's daughters,

1100
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:43.559
those three girls, because they had to go and then

1101
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:47.800
beg bag the courts. Please don't kill my dad, And

1102
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:51.159
I feel bad for those girls. They deserved a better father.

1103
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:56.960
His actions devastated so many people, and all to gain

1104
01:04:57.079 --> 01:05:02.400
a friggin' truck. I don't feel sorry for you, William.

1105
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:04.920
I feel sorry for the people that love you. So

1106
01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:08.079
when it comes to you, sir, cue the world's smallest

1107
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:10.800
violin playing, my heart bleeds for you because you are

1108
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:14.280
getting exactly what you deserve. There are millions of people

1109
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:16.920
across the world who came with the same starter pack

1110
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.440
of life. But a bad childhood is not a coupon

1111
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:24.679
for murder ever, And as far as William is concerned,

1112
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.360
I guess he's learning that having four wheels doesn't mean

1113
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:31.719
you're gonna go anywhere in life. And while he rots

1114
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.639
behind bars, he can exhaust all of his appeals, but

1115
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.800
his execution date is coming, because that calendar is gonna

1116
01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:38.639
keep on trucking.