The Day After ‘I Do’: Ashley Humphrey’s Deadly Honeymoon

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0:50 Warning. Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all, kJ you're back with the other episode of Unspeakable. I've got an excellent one for you today. But before we start, I've got to do some shout outs. Got some new people in the crime family. And we will start in Boise, Idaho, with Miss Leslie Snyder. What is up, Leslie? How are things over in Idaho? I'm waving at you on camera, hopefully you're watching this online, and I am so appreciative for you. We will then go to Huntsville, Alabama, and this is miss Linda Bowen. What is going on? Linda? I have been to Huntsville, Alabama. Believe it or not. I always say I haven't been places, but I have been there, really enjoyed my time.

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3:43 All right, let me ask you something, folks. Do you remember what you were doing back in two thousand and three, because I do. I was at college. I was trying to figure out my life and we were actually all in the throes of a serial killer murdering women all around us. If you're following the DTL series, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, this case, this one's going to take place around that same time in two thousand and three. And what state are we going to be in. I'll let you know. We are heading to none other than Florida. You knew everything always happens in Florida. Now, this was the home of thirty seven year old Sandra Rozzo. Now she went by Sandy. So if I say Sandra or Sandy, same woman, and from the jump, you will be able to tell that she is obviously a very beautiful woman. She was thin, well kept very tan, exactly like what you expect a Florida local to look like.

4:39 And when I say beautiful and thin, please don't come at me for that. What I mean is that she actually used to be a model, so she fit that part. She fit the bill of what people expect in a model, and she had dreams of actually being on television and maybe being in movies. But she hadn't had her major break just yet, but she definitely had the look for it. So for now she spent her days looking for gigs, but at night she was serving drinks and chatting it up with the locals as a bartender. Now, she was a very popular bartender, especially with the men, because, like I've told you, she was stunning. She drew attention just by the way she looked. She wore that typical early two thousands dark dark lipliner with the lighter lipstick, very heavy eyeliner. It made her blue eyes glow. They were stunningly beautiful.

5:33 They stood out. And then she rocked a black BMW as well, so I guess that look altogether from the outside looked pretty damn good. So while men were attracted to. Her, she was going through somewhat of a single phase and her former relationship had failed. She was divorced. Now she had been married, she was divorced, and she was now the single mother of a daughter whom I don't even have to say, but she. Absolutely doored, loved her little girl. But for circumstances that I was unable to muddle through or find her ex husband actually had custody of their daughter, Giovanna for now. So, like I said, I'm not leaving anything out here.

6:15 That I that I know. I don't know why he had custody, but that just was what I found to be the case. And even with this hardship of not being the sole custody, you know, the main custody I guess person for the child, Sandy remained happy. She remained a genuine person. She was someone who gave all in her friendships. She was that person that you knew if you were her friend, she would support you one hundred percent and would come through whenever you needed her. And I know I've said this before in other episodes if you've been a long time listener, but she makes me think of my friend Krisha. Krisha has been a longtime friend of mine and is just somebody that is so genuine in heart, and I know if I picked up the phone anytime of the day, she would show up. And friends like that are hard to come by their quality. So as this story unfolds, we would still have to back up one more year, Okay, So we're gonna have to go back up to two thousand and two to make this all come together. And Sandy was working at a newly established bar that was opening called Club Inferno, which was in Tampa, and there was a VIP bar within that club, and that was the area that Sandy was assigned to. Of course, she had tons of coworkers, but when one certain man was hired on as a bouncer, he immediately took a liking to Sandy. And this man was huge, Okay, big guy, exactly what you would expect in a bouncer, very intimidating,

7:49 very his a presence at least was very intimidating, and the attraction was seemingly mutual because the two of them quickly became friends, and she took it upon herself to show him around and introduce him to everybody, and they really just kind of took an interest in one another. Now, as far as looks go. They seemed to be what we would say, they looked like a cute couple. You know. We used to say that, I guess when we were younger, because, like I said, Sandy was well fit did she loved to work out, And this guy was extremely fit as well. And his name was Timothy Humphrey. He was thirty five years old.

8:30 He was six foot two, but very very muscular, with the charm and charisma to match. So he was originally from Iowa, but he had made his way to Florida as an adult. Now, he fancied himself a personal trainer and he had a reputation for being a damn good one. So he was extremely popular at the gym that he went to, and he had clients that would meet him there, And of course most of his clients were women. But his gentle yet driven coaching style is why they liked him so much, because he had that I don't know, guys, it's like, I guess what women look for in a movie.

9:12 The guy that's rough and tumble and he can protect you, but when it comes to you, he treats you with kindness and he's tender, and so they really seem to like that. He was also soft spoken and funny, and it just sounded like a damn good package. You know. It didn't hurt that he was good looking, you know, and he was training you, I'm sure. So he impressed people with his stories because he said that he had been. A former underwear model. I heard conflicting stories on who he would have modeled for, whether it was Hugo Boss or someone else, but either way, an underwear model and he was a pro football player with the Bucks for a short stint, so you can. Kind of get a full scope. Of what these two people were I guess like and they just looked good together. But either way, there definitely was some sexual tension in the air, even if there wasn't maybe long term relationship status gonna happen, but it was there. Now, his name was Timothy, like I told you, but he was known casually as Tracy. So you're not gonna hear me refer to him as Timothy in this He's gonna be Tracy. So the beginnings of any relationship, I'm sure we all know this. They are fun and they're exciting. But the couple also now worked together, and so that meant that they were always going to be around one another, and eventually that brand newness of the relationship wore off. That's normal, that's how it goes, guys.

10:35 And as the months passed, that relationship mellowed out. And of course, once the lovey dovey honeymoon phase is over and the attraction hotness thing kind of mellows down, the natural disagreements started to rear their heads. So they would kind of go through these phases of being getting together and breaking back up. And everyone that worked with them knew the drama, knew they knew what was going on, and they all just kind of rolled their eyes on, like we go again with these two, and most people accepted that their relationship was one that would probably the best word. Be described as toxic. That was really what it looked like. And as timed time passed, it certainly looked like they were not a good fit emotionally, spiritually, mentally, just from the exterior so to speak. But I say this not because they just couldn't get along, but because this had somewhat escalated to be volatile at times, like gas on fire.

11:33 It just just was going going the wrong way. So one morning in the early early hours, the volatility of this relationship really came to a head. Sandy had placed a call to one of her very, very good friends. Sandy was at the airport when she did this, and when her friend answered, Sandy was completely and totally beside herself. She was panicked and Demi're hysterical about what had just taken place. But she was at the airport, so it's like, what's going on here? Friend? And when she finally calmed down and was able to like get herself together, she was able to get the words out, explaining that Tracy had allegedly been holding her captive in her apartment for the past three days. Yeah, like days, would not let her leave. And not only would he not let her leave, according to Sandy, but the entire time that she was being held captive, he was assaulting her, yelling at her, and basically abusing her.

12:32 And it was extremely traumatic. Now, why was she at the airport? I was very curious about this. So she was supposed to be flying to Pennsylvania, and other people knew she had plans to fly to Pennsylvania, and so he had to eventually let her go from the apartment. Or people would obviously figure this. Out, so he allowed her to leave so she wouldn't miss her flight, and he drove her to the airport. So, after speaking with her friend and kind of going through what Sandy said had happened, she was like, girl, you need to call the police. This isn't something that you know, oh he pushed you or or was yelling in your face. I mean, this is three days you've said that you've been basically held as a captive person. So Sandy went to the police with the story and they took it very seriously, as they should. They documented her injuries, and I'll tell you this, they were there and they spoke volumes.

13:23 In one of the evidence photos, in particular, it shows Sandy with a black eye, like a very very black eye, and it was very reminiscent the second I saw it. If you were familiar with the Nicole Brown Simpson battery photos at the hands of OJ before her death, very very reminiscent of those photos. Needless to say, the relationship was completely over at this point. I mean, this was just a horrendous, multiple day episode of abuse. So Sandy, in her mind and talking to her friend, said I would rather be alone forever than deal with a man. Ever, again, that has anything to do with how Tracy treats a woman.

14:03 This is insanity. So Tracy was arrested and he was charged for the incident, but he was released pending trial, and that trial would take place at a future date. So for now, they were told, you've got to stay away from each other. And Sandy was actually pleased with this. She didn't want to be around him, and he was going to have to await his day in court to tell his side. But Tracy was actually looking forward to this day in court because he was adamant. He was adamant to anyone that would listen, that that did not happen, and that it didn't happen the way she said it happened, and that he never abused Sandy when I tell you totally opposite stories, totally opposite, And he said, she is crazy.

14:53 I don't know why people can't figure this out. She's absolutely crazy, and she is setting me up. This isn't This is a set up, you know, And now I have to go to court, which I don't mind because I want to tell my story. But how dare someone set me up like this? But the woman always wins. The woman always wins, and he was disgusted by the way that this had all unraveled. But people liked Tracy. They liked him. People and clients alike, people that knew him vouched that Tracy was a nice guy. Basically, Tracy was at a loss, and he admitted, Look, we did fight like anybody else.

15:33 We argued, and we got in each other's faces, we both did. But I am no woman abuser, and you're crossing the line when you do this, and she's about to ruin my life and my reputation with her bullshit drama, and I am so done. He told everybody, I'm so done, and I will never deal with that woman ever again in my life. This is how people destroy people's reputations. And while none of us were there, we all know this, or we should know this, that there are two sides to every story, and it's usually somewhere in between where the truth really is. And even the best people can do unpleasant things whenever they get into a toxic relationship with someone. I think we all can recognize that. Okay, obviously, when you listen to my podcast, we know that there's some very very bad people in the world, but just in general, going day to day. Good people can do bad things, and good people can be set up and accused of bad things.

16:33 So what was going on here? No one really knew the whole truth. It seemed like the good news, though, was that both sides agreed they were completely done with one another. So done. Tracy up and quit his job at Inferno. He didn't even want to be near her, nor I don't think he should have been around her or could because of the abuse charge. But he quit his job, and not only that, he freaking moved to another town to get away from her. He took another job at a gym in another town to not be anywhere near her. So some time passed. It was a good thing. Stuff kind of mellowed out, But sure enough Sandy actually did meet somebody else and she was ready to move on.

17:15 And this guy was someone new to her. He was different than Tracy, and they just really hit it off. He was calmer, he seemed more her speed. So it was ten thirty pm on July fifth, two thousand and three, whenever Sandy got off of work from her job at a different bar. This time it was the Green Iguana Bar where she was working, She jumped in her car and she was headed home to Panella's Park where she lived, and her boyfriend Tony was waiting for her to get back. He knew that she should have gotten off her shift and it would take her a little while to come home. So it took her roughly thirty minutes or so to get home from the bar, and he was very tired. He I don't know if he worked all day or what, but he just like couldn't keep his eyes open. So he decided to go to bed early. But he knew she'd be home in just a short amount of time and it wasn't an issue.

18:14 But some time later, he was jolted awake after he had dozed off because fireworks. Someone was shooting off fireworks and you know, these stupid ass people were probably still celebrating the Fourth of July, but I mean it scared him because it was loud and it was right outside of his window, so it scared him awake. He looked around a little bit and was like these morons, and then he just dozed off a bit. But then he woked back up a little while later and Sandy wasn't in the bed when he rolled over, so he started going through the house looking for but you know, where was she? She should have been in the bed. That's weird. Maybe she was up eating or something. So he's gone through the house, he's looking for her, and he can't find her anywhere. Now, it was eleven fifteen. It hadn't been that much time that had passed. It wasn't crazy late, but it was well enough time that she should have been home. So he said, let me go check the garage.

19:05 He opens the garage door and her car is there. So her car is here and she's nowhere in the house. But as he looks to the right, he notices that there's broken glass all over the ground in the garage. So he's walking up to the car, like what the hell, and right as he approaches the driver's side window, he realizes Sandy is in the car, slumped over into the passenger seat, and she is bleeding profusely. Obviously, he panicked. He freaked out, Sandy, Sandy. He opened the door. He's trying to wake her up. Her cell phone was right there, so he grabbed it and immediately he dialed nine one one. I need help my girlfriend. Something's happened to her. She's bleeding.

19:45 I don't know what's going on. So the ambulance and the police arrive very very quickly. They drag her out of the car. They started doing life saving measures, but they ultimately had to throw her in this ambulance and like haul ass to the hospital. They did not have time to wait stop Pasco collect two hundred dollars. She had to go now. It was like a whirlwind of things happening all at one time. Now detectives were sent to the house. Obviously Sandy has now been transported to the hospital. Two detectives on the case for sure were Harry Aguillo or a Gello however you want to pronounce that one, and Detective Scott Golswitzki. So these guys show up and they're looking through the scene here and based on what they knew about Sandy's condition so far, she had been shot. But she had been shot many times. Many times a weapon was fired. And I don't mean just one or two like you would expect in a robbery gone wrong, Like you know, maybe someone saw her BMW pull in, thought okay, easy lick here went up shot and stole her purse.

20:51 This was eight shots, very intentional, and from the jump. Detectives did not believe that this was at random. Y'all have to express to you, in a random robbery to unload half a magazine is crazy, you know, unless you were maybe confronted. But Sandy was a woman slumped over in a car, so it just did not seem like this was at random. Eight shots is a lot, so Sandy. When she was pulled from the vehicle, they noticed she was just wearing blue jean shorts. She had on her tank top, very relaxed looking in terms of clothing, so she hadn't been clubbing or seemed like she had gone somewhere else after work. She knew for certain that she.

21:33 Was being attacked because of the movement in the vehicle, so it looked of her the movement of her in the vehicle, so it looked like this was an ambush on her after she had put the car in park in the garage while she should have been or was assumed to have been, the lone person in the car driving the driver. So they're like, Okay, this was a single occupant person in this vehicle. She was found in the passenger's seat. She wasn't just slumped over in her driver's seat, but in the passenger seat. As you're probably picking up on this, she wasn't like sitting up like she had been executed as a passenger. It was like she noticed or saw the attacker come at her through the window or had a gun through the window, and she started just climbing or trying to get over that center console, but was just mowed down by bullets before she could get out the other side of the car.

22:30 That's how the scene read. And you know, they weren't sure. Did someone smash out the glass with maybe the gun and then unloaded a barrage of shots at her, and that's why she started trying to escape out of the other side. She just never really had much time to react other than seeing it and then scrambling over the side of the car. That's kind of how the scene read. Other than that, wasn't much to it. It was kind of a simple scene. The home, nice middle class home. There wasn't any history at least on record at the house between Sandy and her boyfriend Tony as far as domestic violence went or any of that was concerned. But remember you should know this as a crime fan, true crime fan. Police obviously are going to start in the inner circle or people that were right there with them to gain insight as to what happened or what they last knew to have happened. So they bring Tony inside.

23:25 They sit down at their dining room table, and investigators start asking him very specific questions about what he knew, and he told them exactly what I have already told you so far, nothing different. The fireworks went off. He looked for her a little bit later and then found her in the garage. So as Tony sat there, stunned and completely distraught, the phone rang. Just as soon as Sandy arrived at the hospital. She was pronounced dead. She had no chance zero. It's almost as if the and I don't know this for certain, but I know from experiences in my own life where I have found people I love deceased, that it was almost as if the ambulance showed up and put forth these heroic efforts just for Tony, almost because the wounds on this woman she could not have survived them. There's no way knowing what you're about to know. But when that was, when that happened and they knew for certain she was dead, the news had to be broken to Tony, obviously devastating and this was now officially a homicide investigation, and the reality that her wounds were not survivable should be just kind of at the forefront of your mind, because eight bullet holes in your body anywhere one alone could be deadly.

24:50 But the autopsy would show that she had been shot literally no exaggeration, from head to toe. She had shots to her head. She had a shot to her right shoulder. It's in like the trap area, like if you rolled your shoulder forward, the meat that comes up. It was a shot to the trap area. The collarbone. Her right breast had three shots in it, and if I remember correctly, below her breast right like in the top of the rib area, there were two more rounds. She was shot through the foot. She also had a shot through her upper thigh area. I mean, it was like mowed down from top to bottom. She was so wounded that at her funeral the family had to give a closed casket because no one would ever want to see her in that condition. Sandy would not have wanted people to see her looking like that, and it just flat out wasn't her. That's not what she looked like, and they chose to just close the casket and spare people, the hurt, the additional hurt of what this woman had experienced.

25:57 The bullets that were recovered from her, as well as some casings at the scene, confirmed that Sandy had been shot with a twenty two caliber semi automatic pistol. Now, if you're not a gun person, I do want to tell you that is a smaller gun compared to like a nine millimeter or forty or something like that. It is smaller but just as deadly. So the question became who owned that weapon and who would want Sandy dead. So her boyfriend clearly going to be looked at. Here he found her, they go, they're looking at him, they're talking to him, they're asking questions. But I'll tell you he was very, very quickly ruled out. As they spoke to him. During the interview, he was like, you know, I don't know what else to tell you. They asked him, who hates Sandy? Did she have beef with somebody? Was Did she have any enemies? And he's like, no, no, everybody loved her. The only person who probably hated her that I can even think of, but we haven't spoken to him, would be her ex boyfriend. They had drama and he gave the name Tracy to the police, and so the police looked into this guy. Obviously, hello, that's like a red flack. But Tracy was now almost fifty minutes away from the murder scene. Remember I told you he moved to a different town. So on July the seventh, which would have been two days after the murder, police made the drive to nearby Brandon, Florida, and they were able to locate Tracy, or at least locate his apartment to talk to him. They knocked, but he was not home,

27:30 so they left a card in the door and asked him to contact them back at that information. And then they continued on down. Their list of acquaintances, friends, family, anything that they could think of. Basically, anyone in her inner circle was spoken to. Now, once that entire list was exhausted and no further links whatsoever were made between those people and the murder, police moved on and they wanted to speak to anyone that I have information, But there were really no other leads. Gained in this case. The same name that kept coming up when talking to the inner circle was Tracy and it was all because of that last incident where he was arrested after he allegedly had.

28:16 Hurt her all those months before. It worked out though, that they had gone and left the card because Tracy, when he got back home later on, he did return the officer's call request and he says, yes, I will absolutely come meet you and we can talk in person. So they met up with him at the gym. But by the time that the police, the time passed by the time Tracy called back, and then the police went and they set up the appointment and they met him at the gym. Tracy had spoken to his attorney on that pending assault case with Sandy, and he was advised by his attorney, under no circumstances do you need to be speaking to the police for any reason. And Tracy was like, yeah, but my ex girlfriend is dead.

29:02 Like I'm trippin', what do I do? I mean, I've got to talk to him, And his attorney said, because especially because she's dead, do not talk to them. You're in the middle of a pending case where you have been accused of abusing her. Do not talk to the police now that she's ended up dead, because you're gonna be the obvious suspect here. And that is a terrible idea. Absolutely terrible idea. So while he appreciated the police coming and he was shocked that Sandy was dead, he was just sickened by it because you know, they fought, but he didn't want her dead. There's a difference between fighting with someone and breaking up and wanting them dead. You know, big jump there, But he said, I just I'm so sorry, but I have to look out for myself at this point because you know, hopefully they could appreciate the predicament he was in, and they obviously could see this predicament.

29:53 He can't win. He can't win no matter what he does. I've been accused of hurting her. Now she's dead. What the fuck? You know? I'm in a bad spot. So there wasn't much left to do there, and the police left and said, all right, I appreciate your time, and they continued their investigation, which also included getting subpoenas for Tracy's a multitude of Tracy's records, because just because he wouldn't speak didn't mean that they didn't want to rule him in or out as a suspect. So they pulled things like phone records, bank records, criminal records, anything they could on this guy. And in doing so, they realized that Tracy was actually a newlywed. Yeah, like he got married to somebody else. Why would he or would he even be wrapped up in his ex possibly thought to be murdering her if he was with someone so special that he just married her. He literally had been married gotten married the day before the murder. To be exact, I want to tell you how weird it was. He was married the day before she was murdered. So that would mean that he would have been on his honeymoon most likely, assuming right, you get married and go in your honeymoon. So regardless, Okay, let's go talk to his new wife. Let's go see who she is and if she has anything to add. Now, her name was Ashley Laney and now Humphrey because they got married. But they found her to be a young little thing upon meeting

31:25 up with her. She was only twenty years old. Twenty years old, petit, and absolutely in love with her new husband, who was about fifteen years her senior. Okay, so he got him a little young thing. Now. Police asked to talk with her, which she readily accepted and answered all of their questions. She was at home whenever they wanted to talk to her, and so they went and they met her at the apartment where they had originally left the card, and she explained to them, Yeah, we got married on July the fourth, and we didn't have a lot of money, so we actually did not go on a honeymoon, nor did we have a huge ceremony.

32:06 That just wasn't what we could do. What they did go do is they got matching tattoos as the symbol of their love. I would, okay, not trying to be ugly here, but I would describe these as tramp stamps. It's on the lower back and it looked like tribal flame. They both got one. It looks like tribal flames on either side, and then in the middle they each got each other's name, so it said Tracy on Ashley's back, and it said Ashley on Tracy's back. So they didn't go on a big trip or anything, like I said, but they did commemorate everything with those tattoos. She said, we went out to. Eat at the cheesecake factory after our paperwork was notarized, and that was about it. We didn't have a big, huge celebration, but y'all, she thought it was sweet. They didn't have a lot, and it was kind of like, you know, oh.

32:57 We're halfway there, living on a prayer. You know, that dream of we don't have anything, but we'll make it together type stuff. Do you love my singing? If you don't, sorry? But how did they come to be married and how did they know one another? So let me explain that to you. They had met by chance when she had gone into the gym where he was working, because she was looking to sign up and get a member a membership there. Tracy was the fitness director and so he also helped out with sales. You know, he kind of knew the full scale of the operation and very quickly from the time that they met and he showed her around, that relationship took off. But they both had originally considered to considered it to be somewhat of a friends with benefits type situation. It wasn't like this full on relationship. But eventually Ashley was working in a strip mall nearby. I think she was working at like a SMOOTHI King or something. Don't quote me on that, but she was working in the strip mall. She ended up quitting that job and she got a job working at the gym with Tracy.

34:00 That happened. That's whenever it evolved into them becoming an exclusive pair. They just really loved to be around each other. She was over the moon at this change too, and people they spoke to vouched for this. Her hairdresser, for example, when she went and got her hair done, she was all smiles and cheer and was just talking about how in love and how amazing this was. And while he listened and he smiled, it was more of one of those I love that for you type smiles and listening because he knew Tracy, and he also knew the drama that Tracy and Sandy had had and he was kind of like, ugh, if this is anything like that, this ain't going to turn out well. But I love that for you. And he was a hairdresser. He did not want to get into all of the mess and all of the drama, so he just did her hair, kept his mouth shut, and went about his days. But he knew there had been drama. Now, after Ashley moved in with Tracy, that's whenever he did come clean to her and say, look, I have an ex girlfriend.

35:04 Her name is Sandy. She pressed charges on me for allegedly beating her. I didn't do it. She's batshit crazy and she's jealous, and you know, she's already even moved on, like I've moved on. But I want you to know that I don't want that to be a surprise to you because I do have to go to court and explain all of this away. So she even knew about that. So when asked specifically, what did you do the day after your wedding, it was very much the same. We just hung out at home. We ordered pizza and another friend was there. She stayed till about one o'clock in the morning or so, and then she left. Well, as they're speaking about that, Tracy walks into the apartment and when he sees the police in the apartment talking to his wife, he immediately becomes pissed. I'm talking anger, ree, we probably need to clap those angery, like mad, mad, big mad that the police were there. And he was big mad because he said, I already told you that.

36:14 My lawyer said that we should not talk to you. Is this is you know a problem because I've already told you this. And they kind of looked at him and like, look, bro, your attorney said you shouldn't talk to us. They never said your wife shouldn't talk to us, but he obviously was irritated by this. Of course his wife shouldn't say anything, but she didn't know that she shouldn't say anything. I mean, it is what it is. And immediately the wife, you know, is deer in the headlights, her eyes get big, realizing, oh shit, the police already talked to you, and I didn't know. Your attorney said not to say anything, and she felt like an idiot. She felt like an absolute idiot. I'm so sorry. I didn't know, but I mean I literally only told him what you know about her wedding or whatever. She was aware of the pending charges he had told her, but she was also adamant we were ready to defend him in court when the day came. It never occurred to her that Ashley, or it never occurred to Ashley that her husband may be an issue in an actual murder investigation because he was with her when the murder happened.

37:20 So it never occurred to her that in any way, shape or form that would affect that the ex girlfriend had been murdered. Okay, so she had never spoken to Sandy. She had never even seen Sandy before. Sandy was not in contact with them whatsoever, and she was really a non issue in their lives. So while her murder was absolutely, you know, devastating and horrific in general, you know, the wife didn't know her and so she was young and just didn't realize how that could be a problem. So when the police left, they got in their cars and they kind of still were looking at each other, going they were just calling bullshit on on her whole story.

38:02 They thought that she was possibly covering for him or something else based on how angry he had gotten. It wasn't that Ashley seemed to be untruthful, it was that he seemed to be kind of the ringleader here of their relationship, and the joke was going to be on him, according to these detectives, because all they had to do was track down where he had supposedly bought a pizza that night, and they could kind of tear down the whole alibi from there. But sure as shit, there was a pizza ordered by Tracy and his wife the night of Sandy's murder. They were really surprised. Detectives were surprised by this. They just knew that he was lying, but it was true. It was on his credit card statement when they got those reports in. So they said, well, maybe they didn't actually eat pizza. Maybe they ordered one, but they didn't actually eat it. So police went to the actual pizza place and they spoke to them and said, there was a pizza order this night.

39:02 It shows that it was delivered. Who delivered this pizza if anybody, Well, they get the driver, the delivery driver, and they talked to him and he says, you know, he looks at it and everything. He goes, no, I no, I did. I delivered a pizza to that address the night of July the fifth, and the exact time stamp that it was delivered was eleven fifty one PM. And they said, okay, can you identify who signed for the pizza or who you gave the pizza? Two? And you said, oh, yeah it was he was a pretty obvious guy. You know, I noticed him. And so he was shown a photo of Tracy and to the detectives seriously, to their shock, he goes, yep, one percent, that is the guy that I gave the pizza. Two. They said, in person, you handed him this pizza? He said, absolutely, there is no denying that is the house and that.

39:48 Is who took this pizza. So no freaking way, y'all. It was true, though, it was true, And this is where you realize that tunnel vision and that it's got to be avoided no matter how viable a suspect may look, because based on the timeline alone, there is no way, there's no physical way that Tracy could have shot Sandy at eleven fifteen pm and then been home in time to sign for this pizza. It's just not. It's not. There's no possibility of that. The drive alone would have taken too long. So then the wheels started turning on detectives and they're like, well, what if he had been speeding the whole time and the shooting was more like ten point fifty pm.

40:35 What if the timeline is a little skewed. So police looked at Tracy's phone records that they had pulled, and sure enough, Tracy's phone was bouncing off of a tower right near his home literally the time of the murder. So no matter what angle they looked at, Tracy was telling the truth. There's no way around this. Even if he looked like a great suspect, it just wasn't working. During their brief interview with his wife, Ashley, she had told them, if you remember, that a friend was eating pizza with them the night that that murder had taken place, and she actually gave them a name, and the name that she gave was Toby. Toby was found to be a client at the gym of Tracy's. So police decided they wanted to talk to this Toby woman, and she agreed to meet with them. And when asked, what were you doing the night of and I'm going to say the murder, but they said the night of that date.

41:36 They were again surprised. Because she said, I was with Tracy, my trainer, and his wife, Ashley. It was the fifth and we were eating pizza and we were watching TV. There was like nothing more to it. She said, I left the house around twelve thirty one am, as best as I can remember. Her story also aligned perfectly with the other with the couples, So it was back to the drawing board. They had really just drug that whole theory into the mud. No matter how much they felt like it was true, it just it wasn't. So police dug and dug and dug, but nothing was drumming up any further leads no matter what angle they went. So speaking with the family of Sandy still all these weeks later, they all kept bringing up Tracy's name.

42:27 But here's the thing. The family had obvious beef with him. She said that he beat her up. Of course they think that he killed her. That's not If someone will hit you, they will kill you. I've said that for as long as I can remember, because it's true. So the police kept thinking, even though they realized that there was obvious beef there and the family was angry about that, they just had to keep working the case. And the evidence has to the evidence has to back of what they are trying to find here, and that's whenever they decided they would pull ashley phone records for the night of the murder. Now this would open up a whole new world, a whole new world.

43:08 Of investigation for these detectives, because when Ashley's phone data came back, it turned out that her phone wasn't pinging off of the same tower as the one near her home, So they mapped out her calls and turns out that she was near the Iguana bar as well as near a tower near Sandy's home the night of the murder Bingo. So police now felt that Ashley was way more involved in this than she was saying. Coincidences like this aren't by chance. Coincidences are not real, Okay, But who was Ashley?

43:53 And was that tiny little girl that had never met Sandy a day in her life? Was she capable of murder? Well, they looked into her background. Who was this girl? Well, Ashley did not know her dad, which was evidence because he was in prison before she was even born. Her dad was in prison on sexual battery charges. By the way, her mother struggled with substance abuse. She was an alcoholic. And so Ashley had been raised by her grandmother and she did great, absolutely wonderful whenever her grandmother was raising her. But her grandma died Ashley's senior year of high school. So right here is where you expect me to say, and that's when she went downhill. That's not the case at all. Ashley kept her shit together. She managed to graduate high school. Not only did she graduate, she graduated with honors from her high school. She took a job in that strip mall across from the gym where Tracy worked, which they later met and you know that whole story.

44:55 But most importantly, Ashley had no criminal record. She was a good person by all accounts, did not matter who they spoke to. This is a good person. Shitty home life out of the gate for certain, but a good person and nowhere near anyone who would ever have murder on their mind. Plus, Toby had directly told police that she was with Ashley and Tracy the night of the murder. Something was wrong here. Ray Charles could see this. There is something amiss about this. So police went back to Toby and they said we want to talk to you. She comes in and they put in front of her Ashley's phone records that show that Ashley, or at least her phone, was nowhere near her home that night. She was down near that iguana bar. How could it be? You said she was with you, How could that be? But also they asked her this question.

46:02 Not only that, but right after the murder is believed to have happened, Ashley is calling Tracy. So Toby, how could this be if you were with them both? How could her phone be there? And let's say her phone, she was with her phone there, why would she be calling Tracy if they're supposed to be sitting next to each other with you, Toby, make us understand this. So Toby's confronted with this. Hard evidence, like black and white, right in front of her, and it scared her. It absolutely scared her, and she said, look, I really I really need to talk to y'all.

46:45 Some things have changed. So to start, when the police told her about the phone records, she was kind of like, you know, I don't. I don't let me see this. Are you are you? Are you sure? And they turned the records around and she saw it with her own eyes, right there on the paper on the reports. And that is when she realized that her good friend had lied to her, her very good friend. So let me explain from her point of view, Toby said, I have never, ever in my time having known Tracy, I've never seen him be the least bit aggressive and I've never seen him be violent ever, not one time.

47:31 So whenever he told her about being set up by his ex girlfriend, and she said her name was Sandy, he told me that he was set up by her for abuse charges, she said, I could not believe that. No way, not my friend, there's no way. Well, he had come to her recently and he had asked her Toby to cover for him because he didn't want to go to prison based on that set up by Sandy. So because of all of this, she felt like at the time she was helping out a true friend because he was obviously being railroaded by the courts. Sandy had set him up on a bogus charge, and she had no idea, none, that this was anything in any form of relationship to a murder investigation. She said, I didn't know this, That's not what I thought. And he had convinced her to establish an alibi for him, and she did so because she thought that he was, you know, because of the whole being railroaded by the court system, because of being set up.

48:42 So I hope you're following this. She had no idea about this, this murder investigation. But once those reports were put in front of her, the phone records, and she saw that Ashley's cell phone was over where this murder occurred, that's when everything, all the you know, all the bricks started tumbling in her and she's like, oh my god, I've been severely lied to here. This is not what I signed up for. Yes, I lied, but I lied on the premise of something else. I didn't know this was the case, she said. I even ran. I believed him wholeheartedly. And I actually had run into Ashley the night of the murder and they said, Okay, do tell, she said, but she was at the gym.

49:23 She was at the gym. I saw her face to face. I was there. I saw her at the gym. Ashley wasn't feeling good, she wasn't in good spirits. And so we had chatted. Toby said, I felt I knew they were newlyweds. I felt really bad for the both of them that this woman was trying to ruin their lives. And even more surprising to Toby was that Ashley didn't seem to know that she was lying for Tracy about his whereabouts. That when they. Talked about at the gym, Ashley was like, oh, okay, cool, whatever. I mean, this isn't fair for the way that he has been set up. Ashley had found that out later. So Toby was now worried for herself. But she said, but let me explain something to you. I was so worried for them and scared for that couple, this newlywed couple.

50:12 She said. They even moved in to my house with me at one point because Ashley's dad was supposedly threatening the couple. But I want to bring something up to you here as a listener. Why would Ashley's dad be threatening the couple whenever he was locked up supposedly, you know what I'm saying, in prison? So why would you be threatening Ashley? Like that whole thing there was just confusing. But after they moved in with her Tracy, he seemed to be keeping eyes on Toby and was watching her every movements and who she was talking to, and that whole thing was kind of given her the creeps. And now she's wrapped up in the middle of this she and she was absolutely horrified by everything. She was in absolute just a whirlwind of emotions of everything that was going on.

51:00 So police got down to the nut cutting and they gave her an offer. Toby, will you wear a wire for us and go in and ask your friends some questions over time? Or would you rather be charged with an accessory after the fact since you have now lied and helped to cover up, potentially cover up a murder that we're trying to solve. Obviously she agrees, Hell, yeah, I will be an informant because this is not what I signed up for. So she became an informant for three months. So surveillance was on Tracy and Ashley. Basically this entire time, Toby was wired up and police would give her prompts of things to talk about, to bring up whatever. And police, though, weren't just throwing Toby out there on her own. They were actually watching every time from a surveillance van and they recorded not only video of this, but they were streaming live audio from the wire as it was going down out And in one specific interaction, Toby told the couple, guys, we gotta talk because I have just been served with papers and they're like, what do you mean? They're like standing in a parking lot, and she says, I was served with paperwork that proves that Ashley's cell phone was actually near the murder and not near y'all's home. When she says this, Tracy's physical reaction is extremely telling. He groans, He literally groans like

52:31 a oh man, like that type of groan. He puts his hands over his eyes and his head, and he's like rubbing up and down on his face. But what he says accompanied with that, like guttural groan, and that stressed out look is what gets police because he says, quote, that was the one thing I was hoping wouldn't be true. And Ashley goes, oh my god, just like that, Oh my god. And there's like this stunned silence between all three of them, just kind of like staring at each other in the shock of it. Then Tracy leans over, he pulls in tiny little Ashley, wraps her up in his arms, and gives her a hug. That's kind of like it's gonna be okay, okay. So again, that's not like dunk dah, you know, gavel drop, but it sure was telling that something was a miss here. So police then realize in that moment, oh, we've been on the right track all along. Something happened that they know about, but what is it. They wanted to place them both under arrest in that moment, but unfortunately they didn't have enough to arrest Tracy. Absolutely they had enough for Ashley, but not Tracy. That said, they felt as though they were gonna have an issue with Tracy becoming a flight risk and they didn't want that to happen if they arrested Ashley. Tracy was gonna take off. They really felt that that was the case, so they needed to arrest them both. But how can you do that without probable cause?

54:02 There was nothing to arrest Tracy on. They've got to follow the law, they've got to follow the constitution here. They've got to have a legitimate reason to arrest him, and just feeling like he did something is not enough. Well, this would require some good old fashioned creative thinking and police work. So they go back to the drawing board to figure it out. And those same credit card records that showed Tracy order a pizza would actually give the police an additional gift there, because scouring the records they found a charge for a local firing range. Now, look, it's America, you do you You can go to a gun rage all day long, shoot it up, unless you are a convicted felon. Yeah, because looking into Tracy's criminal history, it turned out that he was a convicted felon on a prior charge, not the supposed beating up with Sandy.

55:03 Another one that said he could go to arrange. Sure, you can walk in, but you cannot fire a gun because that would be a felon in possession of a firearm, which is a criminal charge. So why would you go to arrange if you weren't going to go shooting? Well, thinking ahead, they figured he was going to say something to that effect that, oh I went with someone else, Oh I never touched a gun. Blah blah blah. So the detectives went to that range and they spoke to the employees who confirmed that not only had Tracy been there and rented a lane to shoot on with his credit card, but they had to oversee all of that, and Tracy was absolutely one hundred percent not only holding a gun, but they said he was teaching a woman how to shoot. Whoop, there it is got him. They knew they had what they needed now. In further investigation, detectives also found that Ashley had borrowed a gun from her mother's boyfriend, so in speaking with him, he was able to confirm that the gun she borrowed. She said that she needed it for protection, and when they asked her what caliber.

56:16 Was it, it was a twenty two pistol all right. So Tracy and Ashley were working at the gym, having just another final day when multiple police units rolled up, walked in and took them both into custody. But this isn't near the end of this episode. So Ashley was arrested and she was charged with Sandra's murder, okay, But Tracy was arrested on felon in possession of a firearm, a real charge, y'all, but really being used as a temporary hold of sorts. It was one hundred percent legitimate. I don't want it to seem like it was fake.

56:56 It was legitimate. But it was just basically to hold him behind bars for now and buy them some time where they could build the solid case against him for at least involvement in Sandra's murder. Because here's the deal. If he were to go to court on August fourth, just one month to the day after Sandy was murdered, okay, that was the court date for the Sandy charge. He was scheduled to go to court exactly one month to the day after Sandy was killed, And if Sandy would have gone and testified at that trial, he would have been looking at serious prison time because you know what else the police found out. Tracy wasn't just a felon, but he was also actively on parole, actively on parole.

57:51 This charge, if he was convicted, would become what's called an enhancement, and this would send him right back to prison for ten years. He absolutely had the motive to want Sandra dead, and the police felt like he used his wife, Ashley to do it. So when Ashley was brought in to the station and she was advised of the charges against her murder, I want you to think about that real quick. The police look at you and say, hi, you're under arrest and you're being charged with someone's murder. Her reaction, What would your reaction be? I know that I would be like, oh, fuck, okay. From at minimum that would be what I would be thinking. But Ashley's reaction was less than apologetic at best.

58:36 She really didn't react at all. Actually, when they asked her if she understood, They're like, do you understand these charges? And she just kind of like said, yeah, I'm under arrest for a murder of a woman. I didn't even know. That's what she said to them. It was almost combative and dismissive in nature. So police asked her a few questions, and you would think that this chick had. Been in trouble before or something. You would think that she had done this before because she said nothing even whenever she was given an option to minimize what could have happened, nothing. Twenty seven different times she restated the same thing. She said, get my lawyer, Get my lawyer, Get me a lawyer, just like that, over and over and over, and I want you to know something. It's not just the words that she said, get me a lawyer. It was angry and it was defiant the way she says it, there were no tears, there was no crying, nothing. She actually casually grabs her drink, opens it takes a sip like this was just another day and this would soon pass. When asked her, or when asked of her, can we get consent to search your house? She looked them in the eyes and said, get my attorney. They said, will you consent to giving your DNA?

59:54 And she said it just like this, get me my attorney. Very defiant. She claims that she didn't do it, but when accused formally, she didn't even protest at all. She didn't even proclaim her innocence and. Say you're wrong, I didn't do this. All she does is clam up and get a lawyer. Now, from from a lawyer perspective, she did great. Okay, from a defense attorney perspective, she did exactly what you're supposed to do, shut up and ask for a lawyer. She wasn't saying a damn thing. But the following Monday, okay, that was like a week of Friday, I believe the following Monday, when she did get to speak to her attorney, it was made very clear to her by said attorney that this was not an accident, that this was not an improper arrest. And baby girl, you're not going home.

1:00:49 Just so you know, you are facing either life in prison or the death penalty if you are found guilty of this, like. You need to really back it up step and realize. This ain't the fucking movies, babe, this is real life. If there's something you know that could help you, you better say something. So it was at this point that Ash was ready to roll the dice. She said, I didn't do it. Sorry, let the cards fall where they may. Let's go to court. But as some time passed and she sat behind bars, her attorney, to her attorney's credit, was having some serious realizations as she was thumbing through the evidence, and this included the fact that Tracy was now claiming full ignorance of this whole murder.

1:01:40 He knew nothing. He knew absolutely nothing. About this murder. He said that Ashley did this on her own. He knew nothing of it. He should not even be a part of this. So her attorney, by the way, was a female, and I think that really helped out of here. So her attorney shows up to the jail with this evidence and is like, okay, girl, look, I know that you were young, I know that you are madly in love. And I know that you never knew your daddy. But this ain't love, Okay. He is letting you take the full fall for something that I don't believe was just you. If you at all, babe, you need to listen to me. You're going to lose this case and you are going to pay with your life one way or another. And when your a defense attorney is telling you that that's your clue to listen the fuck up. And Ashley still was not budging until she was enlightened on a few things that she had no clue about until this very moment with her attorney, and I'm going to listen them for you, amongst others, but number one, her beloved husband had lied to her about being a football player.

1:03:00 He never played pro ball. That was a full outlie that he told her, just like he had lied about it to Sandy. Her soulmate husband had lied to her about being an underwear model that never happened. He lied to her just like he did to Sandy. And your betrothed husband has spent the majority of the last fifteen years not being a fitness trainer. He lied to you about this, and I can prove it because he was behind bars on multiple charges, most. Of which were for abusing women.

1:03:43 He lied to you about this, just like he did to Sandy. Neither of these two women knew anything about his prison history. By the way, Sandy never even knew about his history. So his charges, I looked him up myself. I don't want to leave it at that. I want to I want to be full scope here. So I looked them up myself, and there's a couple of them I want to point out to you, starting back on my. Birthday, August fifteenth. Okay, But on August fifteenth of nineteen ninety four, he was arrested and was given five years for a grand theft motor vehicle. So he stole someone's car. September twenty fifth of nineteen ninety five, he had aggravated assault with a weapon. This one had a thing that said, uh, no intention to kill, So I guess I don't know if you pistol whipped somebody or what. On August thirtieth of nineteen ninety five, he had a charge of aggravated battery with intended harm. And on September twenty fifth of ninety five, he also had a kidnapping charge. And then he had there's another thing on here. I don't have it quite spelled out, but he had a kidnapping charge and something else which was also a felony. He had been given twenty years total for all of this, but he had spent only roughly about fifteen years. But if that didn't hit her in the soul, if that didn't get her when she realized that everything she had been told about this man was a lie, this last bit

1:05:16 of info. Surely did you remember her hairdresser that she. Confided in about her love for Tracy and how great he was, And the hairdresser just kind of smiled and was like, I'm happy for you. Well, that hairdresser, I want to point out, was a he a guy, a male a male hairdresser, and that male hairdresser was also Tracy's gay lover. Yeah, yes, sir. The hairdresser had been interviewed by police and he admitted that on the low they were lovers, but Tracy had sworn him to secrecy, and there was photographic evidence of their relationship.

1:06:03 This is not me just spewing this. And to further follow that up, I went and looked up some stuff on Tracy and one of his aliases was on the low. That's actually documented, just so you know, in his prison file from all this stuff. On the low. Now, if you're not with the lingo, on the low means that you're doing something without other people knowing, meaning maybe sleeping with men on the low. Yeah. Well, when that last bit was told to her that he was even sleeping with her hairdresser, that was the straw that broke the camel's back, and Ashley realized she had been played and she had been played hard. So Ashley agreed to strike a plea deal to testify against her husband in exchange for not getting a life sentence.

1:06:51 If the prosecution was interested, they wanted though to hear, they were like, okay, cool, this is great let's work this out, but we want to know what you have to bring to the table before we agree to give you this plea deal. And that's when Ashley laid it all out for them. Saturday night at the club where Sandy was working, She waited for hours outside in the parking lot for Sandy to get off of work. She said that she followed her home. She got out of her car, went into Sandy's garage. She pulled the trigger, she said, until it stopped firing, meaning she emptied the weapon completely. That's why there was eight shots to her at close range.

1:07:35 She specifically said. Then I stood there, leaned in and looked into her eyes. And the reason she looked into her eyes is because her husband told her, you have to make sure someone's dead, and you can see it in their eyes. She ran back to her car and she headed home. She said, I called Tracy and told him that it was done, and he said he had ordered some pizza, and she said that she requested double cheese on hers. First of all, I want to stop there and go, Wow, you just are telling them you fucking shot somebody that you never met, and then you're asking for double cheese on your pizza, and when asked, because the detectives were also a bit stunned at this point, when asked if even for a moment, did you check up and think, don't do this? You know, did you, in your gut go this ain't the right thing?

1:08:34 And she said no, I didn't. They're like, you didn't even like think twice about it, And she said no, because I was afraid of Tracy. Why were you afraid of Tracy? And her answer was because I knew how mad he got it me when I failed the first time I tried. To murder her. Holy crap, detectives almost choked on their own spit. Wait, what what do you mean the first time you tried to kill her? Y'all? This wasn't the first time that she had tried to kill Sandy. She had been following her and stalking her for a long time. Here, she knew where she lived, she knew where she worked. She had been calling Sandy's job and asking if she was working so she could figure out her schedule and plan ahead for her murder.

1:09:27 And I want to just say this real quick. That is one of the biggest reasons why I don't think that businesses should confirm or deny if somebody is working or not, because if you need to talk to them, drive up there. But just giving out people's schedules over the phone, don't. I'm not a fan of that. Her first assassination attempt, what happened, let's talk about it. She was waiting outside of Sandy's job in a nearby parking lot. She went so far as she had painted her face black, she had put on brown contact lenses. She had slipped her hair back into a bun and put it under a baseball cap. And she did that on purpose because at night time where it was dark, it made her look like a very small.

1:10:09 Thin black male. She was changing her appearance. And then when Sandy came out, Ashley had a rifle at this attempt, not a pistol, a rifle, and so she had the rifle out of her driver's side window. She had it sided in on her target, which was Sandy, and the rifle was even slid into a blue jean pant leg, so that if anyone happened to see it, it wouldn't look like a readily identifiable rifle. If someone happened to pass by and see it, and matter of fact, it would have looked like someone's blue jean leg out of the window, like resting on the mirror. Okay, to really put it into perspective here. And whenever Ashley had fired the rifle and shot at Sandy with the rifle, she thought that she had it resting on top of her driver's side mirror, but it was actually in that groove, you know, the little dip down where it attaches to the car. It was actually resting somewhere right there. And whenever she pulled the trigger to assassinate Sandy the first time with a fucking rifle, the bullet, because it was misplaced in the mirror, actually struck her mirror, which caused the bullet's trajectory to be way off course by the time it got you know, down range, and the bullet missed Sandy, by the grace of God. Now the loud boom had made Sandy just duck out of instinct. She kind of dropped down, and she was looking around like,

1:11:39 what the hell was that She heard it? And she's looking around. She had no clue that someone just weeks prior to her to this date, had shot at her and tried to murder her. Then she had no idea nobody knew. Can you imagine an assassin was after her? Missed and she had no idea someone was after her. So after that murder attempt went awry, she said she ditched that gun, she threw it out, and then she burned all the other evidence that was there. Now here's the thing. Why was she doing all of this? Okay, Ashley and Tracy had gotten into a fight after that first attempt.

1:12:24 And they had. Gotten into a fight why because Tracy was caught cheating some type of infidelity issue. Shock her. I know you're shocked here. But he was cheating on her and she found out. So Ashley had stormed out of their house and went back to her mom's house. Well, Tracy then showed up there and wanted to talk to her. Now, her mam was screaming, stay away from him. He's cheating on you. What are you thinking? Stay home, Stay home. But Tracy was out there and doing his talk and smooth talking to her and explaining things away, and he told her that in her mother's driveway. Listen, I've made a huge mistake. I've made a huge mistake. I don't love those women. Let me tell you who I love. I love you, and I'm going to prove it to you right now, Will you marry me? Let's get married. And it was less than a month later that that twenty year old girl believed him and married him.

1:13:19 But I want to tell you something, even that marriage was a setup to and Tracy knew it. And I have to explain it to you. American law cannot compel a spouse to testify against another spouse. And if they. Broke up and she was pissed off and Ashley went running home to her mama, Ashley. Might go tell. What might Ashley go tell? She might go tell that Tracy was the one who wanted his ex girlfriend murdered, That Tracy was the one pushing and pushing and pushing, that something needed to happen with Sandy. So if he begged her back, promised her this Romeo and Juliet moment, let's get married. All we need is love bullshit, then the law via marriage could protect him. It could protect his ass because the day after they were married, they got married on July the fourth, Why well, because they were saying as a couple, he was like, wow, you know we can have fireworks on on our honeymoon.

1:14:28 Each year or I don't know. To me, it kind of sounds like, because fireworks are going off on the fourth of July, no one will fucking hear someone shooting somebody. They will assume it is fireworks. I don't know. That's what my mind heard. But you can make your decision. Because they got married on July the fourth, but on July the fifth, as soon as they woke up, he looked her in the eyes and said, you know, you have to finish this because if Sandy testifies against me, I'm going back to prison, and I can't love you like the husband I want to be. I can't father your children. We can't have our life, our our our home life is wrecked. It's ruined by this woman who has made these false accusations against me, and your whole entire life is about to fall apart. You're gonna lose this stability and the love that I am gonna provide you forever.

1:15:19 I've made this devotion to you. He tells this to this young girl. Police could not understand as me and you, you and I alike probably cannot. They could not understand how some young girl, so normal, so smart, so driven, could go to the length of murdering a woman she never met, she never spoke to before, she never laid eyes on before. But the answer here. I know some people are gonna kind of go h when I say this, but I'm telling you now, the answer is that. You know someone who is. A manipulator, A master class manipula is so powerful in the most devious of ways. They have a power and ability to make you believe things and make you do things that, looking at it from a clear point of view, without the influence of the manipulator, you would never do.

1:16:18 If you've ever been in an abusive relationship of this type, you are right now going She's right, Kelly's right. It's true. It's true. If you've never experienced it, you're rolling your eyes, I promise you. And either way that's okay. Experiences will will turn us into who we are, and I understand that. But that manipulation and the tactics used by him convincing her. You know, you never had a dad to take care of you. And now I'm Prince Charming, I'm strong, and I'm here and I'm gonna save you. And now this woman is going to rip that away from you. Your dad's already been taken from you by a woman accused and she was assaulted. Now I'm gonna be taken away from you by a woman who's falsely accused. Me of being assaulted. And if this doesn't happen, then I'm gonna you know, he really put it on her, and not just that quickly, y'all over time. So, while awaiting sentencing for his fellon in possession of a firearm charge, he was then advised now in jail from the jail, that he was being charged with first degree murder. And guys, he was just hurt by this. He said he was totally innocent. He could not believe this. He was so innocent too, that before he could even state his case in court, he decided he needed to escape custody. He was that innocent, guys, he needed to escape. And that's exactly what he did, because around one o'clock on a Friday afternoon, the Pinellas County Sheriff's deputies were transporting him from one jail to another. Now, if you don't know about jail transport, that's okay, But

1:17:50 I want to explain something real quick. When you arrive at a jail and you're in secure custody. You are going to be brought into what's called a sally port, which in essence is a secure carport. Okay, it's usually. Surrounded by chain link fencing or some type of security from top to bottom. The vehicle you're in will drive into it. The gate will then close that way if you try to escape the car, or you know, you try to fight the deputy, even if you beat up the deputy, you still can't get out. You're still in the cage. Well, there were a total of four inmates that were being transported, three males and one female. Well, while they've got into the sally port, the female that was being transported was able to slip off her cuffs and open the van door.

1:18:34 Tracy at this point was handcuffed in front of his waist instead of behind himself. And I'm gonna stop real quick and tell you something. It's officer's discretion whether they handcuff in the front or in the back. This is not a policy breach or anything like that. But he was in the front and because of this, they were able to get out of the van and make a run for it. Because the female was able to not only open the door, she was also able to loosen a bolt. I believe it was in the cage, and so he was able to make his way through that cage through that open bolt, and since his handcuffs were on the front, he was able to run really really well.

1:19:14 And they he was able to even make it out of the sally port. How I don't know, because they don't release information that will teach people how to escape, but I'm guessing that an unlocked or unsecured git was the issue, and those things happened whatever, but he was able to escape. He was that innocent. He escaped the custody of police. Now a huge search was on for him, and this included air support. CA Nine's, the whole manty. Everything was put out for him, and eventually, I'm going to cut it short here, but after all this searching was done, he was found on the ground hiding in some brush that was growing around a tree. So as deputies closed in on him, he did make an epic last run for it, but they snatched his ass up and they got in pretty quick.

1:20:00 Okay, So he, of course. In that moment, began to complain that the police were mean to him. They were mean to him when they took him into custody. He said his ribs hurt and his legs hurt. He needed to go to the hospital, and they were like, that's fine, we'll take you to the hospital. No big deal. But he was put under the strictest and tightest jail I mean security at the hospital possible, and in the meantime they slapped an extra charge of escape on him. So he did eventually go back to the jail to await his day in court. Finally court came to be and he actually testified on his own behalf. He was that confident that he had nothing to do with this, and he testified that this was Ashley's doing and that she was the one who said, what if someone prevented Sandra from showing up to court, to which he testified that he told his wife this is a quote. Don't even joke about that. That is not funny. Why would you say that. He could not believe that his wife would say such a thing. Now you and I know this.

1:21:00 His prior record alone against women makes this the most laughable fucking statement I've ever heard in my entire life. But he also claimed that he married Ashley so quickly, not because of the espousal testimony law. But because direct quote, I. Don't think I'm ever going to find this again, end quote. That's how strong the love was. And I'm going, yeah, dude, I don't think you're ever going to find that either. You convinced a twenty year old girl too, with no experience in love, who you master manipulated. You convinced her to kill for you, and she tried it, not once, but twice. I'd say, you're right, bro, You're not going to find this much much again either.

1:21:41 The chances of you finding someone to do this again are very slim. So, yeah, you're right, bro. It wasn't love. It was that you found somebody who you could manipulate. It took the jury less than three hours to find him guilty, and he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Now. So Ashley did exactly as she promised, and as a result she told everything. She was sentenced to twenty five years in prison, which as of this recording date, means that she will be released in just two years at the end of twenty twenty eight. It's coming up soon, and all I can think about now is Sandy's daughter, A daughter that was forced to grow up without her mother. Ashley got twenty five years, but Sandy's daughter got a life sentence. In terms of being a victim here, Sandy she lost her future, she lost everything. Twenty five years to me is nothing.

1:22:45 It's nothing. It's a drop in the hat. However, even Sandy's own mother believed that Tracy was the root of all evil in this. Sandy's family as well as the police. And I will tell you my opinion has also changed. After all the research I did on this, all of us, and I'll say us agree that Ashley was manipulated, she was used, and she was just a very young pawn in all of this. Had she never met Tracy, I am very confident in believing that she would have never been a criminal at all. She would have never this would have never crossed her mind. And I will say this, Ashley has taken full responsibility for what she did. She even the part about saying that she asked for extra cheese. I mean, she admits all of this. In looking back on it, she just shakes her head. You can see it in interviews. She just shakes her head and just kind of like is stunned by her own she's almost stunned at her own level of evil, and a direct quote in an in her interview I watched, she said that what she did was evil.

1:24:02 She knows this, and she said, I deserve life in prison because Sandy lost her life. But I am grateful for a second chance, if it's ever given to me. So maybe it's maturity, maybe it's growth, but at least she gets that opportunity. Sandy remains dead and will be forever now while behind bars, I want to tell you this too. Ashley filed for divorce from Tracy. She wants nothing to do with him. She doesn't even want to still have the same name as him. And at first, when she filed that paperwork, Tracy agreed, yeah, dumb bitch, I want to be divorced from you. But after that, shortly thereafter, he decided he wanted to fight their divorce.

1:24:47 He didn't want her to divorce him. Was it because the woman willing to kill for him was his one and only and he couldn't let her go. Was his devotion just that deep that he just didn't want to be separated from her? No? Fuck No. The hearing notes which I looked up the hearing notes show. He now wanted to fight the divorce because he realized that she could speak freely to the press about the murder if she wasn't his wife. Well, newsflash, bitch, I mean she could talk about it anyway. The law doesn't say she can't, it says she doesn't have to. So the whole paperwork, the whole thing is just ridiculous.

1:25:31 But he did state in there, and here's the kicker, if she did speak to the media and the press, he felt like that was going to affect his post conviction relief that he was acting for, I e. If she speaks and people know the truth, then I don't have the chance at my conviction being overthrown, being thrown out. Whaw crib me a fucking river. The judge also was not impressed. And guess what, bro He even agrees actually can do whatever she wants with a yell or mirror or not. But this dude is so calculating. But I want to say he's a calculating idiot. He's an absolute idiot. And if anything, this is a cautionary tale about whirlwind romance and blind love. Young girls, pay attention. Love will never ask you to marry to murder someone never ever someone being so skilled at lying and manipulation, having the ability to weaponize the person they supposedly love, that is a frightening person to have running loose in society. Thankfully they are both behind bars, while only one of them has admitted to everything and begged for forgiveness for their actions.

1:26:49 I can't say, though, that I'm surprised that he continues to maintain his innocence. I just I'm not shocked by it. I'll tell you this too, Tracy Humphrey. He no longer looks the same now that he can't pump his veins full of steroids and wu unsuspecting women into his trap of manipulation. If you see him now, he's tall, but he's skinny and rather plain looking. I guess now his real exterior, his natural exterior, just mirrors his less than desirable interior. You know, his true self, the real ugly side of him, And I'd have to say that it's very well fitting. I mean, we all know that steroids are known for reducing the size of a man's package, which, in hindsight, y'all, it makes perfect sense because even at his peak, it took a woman to come in and do his dirty work, and the reasons because the dude just didn't have the balls