Nov. 4, 2025

Killer Couple: Cynthia Alvarez & Giovanni Gallardo

Killer Couple: Cynthia Alvarez & Giovanni Gallardo
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Season 9

In this episode of “Unspeakable” Kelly Jennings tells the story of A daughter's Halloween party plans that turn deadly in southern California, as a family of three mysteriously goes missing.

Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings is Hosted by Kelly Jennings and produced by the experts at Envision Podcast Productions.

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's

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kJ back with another episode of Unspeakable, and y'all are

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gonna probably come at me. But it's okay. But this

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episode is coming to you after Halloween. But it's kind

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of got a Halloween vibe to it. But that's okay.

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You're still gonna like it. And it's still pretty a

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pretty good episode. But before I can start it, I

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have to give some shout outs, and I'm gonna start

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in an organ Yes, that's where I'm going to Orgon. Specifically,

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I'm going to Portland, Oregon, and that is where Emily lives.

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How are you doing, Emily? You joined my Patreon. I

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don't have your last name on here, so I just

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have to say Emily, but this one's for you, babe.

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I'm waving. I'm saying hey and thank you so much

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for joining and supporting me, as well as Miss Andy

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Ivy right here in Denham Springs, Louisiana. What's going on? Andy?

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Do I know you? Are? We friends? Do we see

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each other at Walmart? I don't know, but we might

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as well be because you live right here by me.

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So I'm saying hey to you. Andy. I hope that

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you are having a fantastic day as well as Miss

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Pamela Myers on. Let's see, she's in Greenwell Springs, Louisiana. Hey, Pam,

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you're right down the road as well. How's it going

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for you. I'm so thankful and proud that people support

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me and that y'all appreciate my content. There's only so

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many ways to vocalize that, but it's so genuine and

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it's so real. You are making my dreams come true.

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And I just from the bottom of my heart, I

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hope you know how thankful and blessed that I know

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I am, and it's all because of you. But last,

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and certainly not least, I'm going to go to Texas. Now,

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this is Cleveland, Texas and that is where Angela lives. Hey, Angela,

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I'm waving to you as well on the camera. Lah,

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I'm blowing kisses all the way to Texas and I

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am just stoked to have you here. Now, let's get

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started on this episode. And like I said, this is

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obviously going to have a little Halloween thing going on,

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but it's going to be a little after but that's okay.

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We can stay in the holiday spirit, no worries. But

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we are going to have to go to Compton, California. Now,

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I got to tell you someone, I think of Compton.

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I don't know why, but I think of like high

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school and rap music. And it's like all these memories

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come back when we started talking about Compton. But back

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in twenty eleven, there were some very interesting shifts occurring

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in Compton. And while I'm not going to bore you

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because this is not an educational podcast necessarily, but I'm

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not going to bore you with the official sites and

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sources that I got this data from. I will tell

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you I did a little bit of research and at

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that time in twenty eleven, the demographics as well as

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the crime in Compton, they were evolving. Now, back in

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twenty eleven, there were some very interesting shifts going on

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in that area. And I'm not going to bore you

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because this is not a lecture, okay, But I'm not

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going to give you all the official sources and all

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the sites that I went to, but I did research

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some of the demographics and things of that nature. And

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not only were the demographics of the area changing, but

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also crime was evolving a bit in that area. And

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while the political control was mainly in the hands of

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black Democrats, the population had shifted to be a majority Latino.

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So another thing that was kind of interesting to me

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was that the crime rate was down. According to officials,

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murders were on the decline, and at that time in

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twenty eleven, they were the lowest since the mid nineteen sixties.

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And this was according to an article I read from

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twenty eleven. And so I'm just trying to give you

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the vibe of the area and what was going on,

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because lowering crime rates are always a wonderful thing, There's

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no doubt about that. We all love when that happens.

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And hardworking Latinos are also a wonderful thing, which was

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fully embraced and evidenced by fifty one year old Jose Lava. Now,

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Jose was originally from Mexico. He was a first generation

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immigrant to the US. And this guy was an absolute

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solid dude when it came to work. His ethic was

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as solid as the construction jobs he was completing. He

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was a manual laborer, and the man flat out worked

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his ass off. He had moved to the US and

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settled in southern California. And like I said, it would

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be this Compton area to be specific, And let's talk

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Compton just for another second. And I know I told

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you that the crime rates were down, but I want

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to also point something else out that everything in life

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is relative, including stats and crime rates and all of that.

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Because Compton is known to have one of the higher

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crime rates in the US. So when I say that

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there was a decline in crime, that doesn't necessarily mean

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that much, because you know, if you already have an

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exorbitan crime rate and it declines, does that really mean

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things are great? Or does that mean like, thank god,

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we're coming down just a bit, maybe more towards the

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national average. But that said, poverty is also an issue

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in Compton. And they have much higher rates than the

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national average and at that time as well. So when

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Jose settled in that area, he knew that one day

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he wanted to make it out of the area that

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he was living in. He had goals and he was

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doing everything in his power to achieve those goals. And

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did I mention his work ethic yet, of course I did,

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because he didn't have just that construction job that I mentioned.

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He actually held more like three jobs to support his life.

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He would swing that hammer by day, but if it

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rained or if he was laid off, he would also

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complete side jobs for people to make some extra cash.

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And on top of that, if that weren't enough, he

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also worked as a delivery man on the weekends. He

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worked for this amusement type company, the ones that rent

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bounce houses and tables and chairs and things of that nature.

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He was always working, which he did feel bad about

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because he did have a wife and two kids at home. Now.

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His wife, her name was Gloria. She was actually as

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common law wife. I don't think that they were actually

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formally ever married, but totally devoted to one another. He

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was devoted to his Gloria, And look, shall we say

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cougar much because miss ma'hem was seven years his senior,

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but she still made his world go round as his senorita,

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all right, So there's a little bit of an age gap.

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But he loved her dearly as well as her two

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children because guess what. The reason I'm saying her two

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children is because they weren't biologically his. They were someone

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else's children. But when he fell in love with Gloria,

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he also fell in love with her children. Now she

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had these two and both of them had different dads,

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but the same mom whom he loved. And so the

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girls their names were Diana and Cynthia. They both considered

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Joseh to be their dad. So Diana's a bio dad.

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I don't really have much information on him, but I

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do know that Cynthia's dad had been deported. I believe

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he was sent back to Honduras as where he went.

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So jose really was the only man that would remain

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a constant figure in both of the girl's lives. And

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damn it, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm giving credit

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where credit is due because he looked at those girls

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as his own flesh and blood. It did not matter

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that he didn't create them. Those were his girls. If

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they needed it, he was going to get it for him.

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Come hell or high water, or long work hours, he

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was gonna do it. Gloria, meanwhile, she was a homemaker,

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and Jose he wanted to take care of her, and

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he wanted to allow her to stay home, but not

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just out of ease and because she was a woman,

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but also it was somewhat out of necessity because Glory.

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Gloria's health it had some issues, and her health was

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rather failing. So she was a terrible diabetic and her

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body was kind of going to shambles as a result

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of that. Her feet had issues, so she walked with

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a cane. I don't know this specifically, but my mother

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is a bad diabetic, and I know that neuropathy also

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becomes an issue with that, so I kind of got

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that gist about things. So she would walk with a cane.

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And also her eyesight was horrible, so again that could

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be due to diabet diabetes as well, but I don't

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know that specifically. She was constantly though, at the doctor

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with her ailments, and it kind of seemed to be

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a never ending revolving door her having to go to

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the doctor, and it did put a lot of financial

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responsibility on the family, but Jose made it happen. It

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was his job. That was his lady, and he was

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going to take care of her. He loved his girls

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and he was devoted to making all of their lives

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good ones. Gloria, however, she was exactly what you expected

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in terms of being a mom. She liked to bake cookies,

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she kept a tidy home, she did the laundry, she

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kept her family well fed, she was cooking their favorite

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meals whenever they requested, and she just was a mom

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that did what she was supposed to do. Now, Diana,

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she was the eldest daughter, and there was actually a

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ten year age gap between her and Cynthia, the younger sister,

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so the four of them had all lived together as

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a family unit originally, but by twenty ten, Diana had

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moved out and she was an adult and she went

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to go start her own family Cynthia, though Cynthia was

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still a teen. I'm gonna pause real quick in the

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story to tell you this. I really really want to

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always be completely accurate and factual, so I'm saying the

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name Diana as the sister's name but looking through some

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other documents, I saw a different name for one of

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the sisters. I don't want to give anything away at

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this point, but I'm not quite certain if Diana is

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a name that was just used in some other things

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I looked at, and if she actually had a different name,

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maybe it was Diana and there was another half sister somewhere.

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I'm not one hundred percent sure it doesn't affect this

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story at all, but I just want to let you

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know that if you know these people, or if you

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were close to this case, I am aware that there

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was a different name used. I just was not able

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to one hundred percent solidify who exactly that other name was,

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So just take that as you will. Now, Diana and

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her mother were very close and they spoke daily, but

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it was more like an adult relationship. Because of the

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obvious age gap between Diana and her younger sister, the

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relationship was a little bit different, so they would speak

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on the phone more like adults. Whereas Cynthia, she was

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now the focus of the home because she was the

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only kid there and because she was younger, she was

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still a teen. So there you have it. A family

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living in a lower income area, but loving and hardworking

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people just like the rest of us. So Cynthia at

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the time I'm telling the story, she's now fifteen, and

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Jose realized and he took responsibility for the fact that

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he was away from her and her mother a lot

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because of how much he was working. But he made

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up for that by doing what Cynthia loved to do.

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He would take her on shopping sprees. All teenage girls

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love this, and so he just loved to see her

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smile and he knew that he could get that smile

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by buying her these material things that teenagers wanted makeup, jewelry, clothing,

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all of that type of stuff. And while he would

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probably never admit this out loud, he compens through those

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shopping adventures as well for the poor living conditions that

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they had. But although they may have lived in a

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poorer area of town, there was no question that whenever

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Cynthia went to school, he made sure that she had

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all of the best things so she would not be

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judged from for where she came from in front of

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the other teenagers. And I really thought that a beautiful

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thing for a dad to recognize that, look, we may

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not live in the best area, but he recognized, and

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he had the foresight and the forethought to look at

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her and go, but baby, it doesn't matter where you're living, Okay,

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you can still look good. You can still present yourself

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in the way that we are. We're good people, we're

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hard working. And so she really did have the best

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of everything, y'all. Her friends, they admired her, and people

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would never know unless they went to her house. They

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would never know that she was living in a poorer

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area of town in a trailer. She had all of

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the best when I say this, she had the up

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to date of electronics that were popular. Her hair was

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always done, her makeup was always on point, at least

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in teen terms. Okay, but she had it going on

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as far as a teenager was concerned. And also there

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was a huge event that had been held that June

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where Cynthia was really made to feel like the princess

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that jose and her mother Gloria felt and believed her

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to be. It was her coveted Kinsineia. The Hispanic culture's

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recognition of when a girl is turning into an adult

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and entering womanhood. This fifteenth birthday celebration is a cultural

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tradition where the birthday girl is going to wear a

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beautiful gown, this big, nice gown, and she is going

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to be the center of attention and celebrated. It's a

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very very special event. And while I've never personally been

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to one, and I'm not claiming to be an expert,

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I have had in the past many a student over

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the years show me photos from their own kingsinnarias and kinsinira.

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I guess I should put the ruh in there, but

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they show me their photos and tell me all about

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their parties. And symbolism in these parties is huge. They

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have these traditional rituals, everything from changing for the first

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time from their flats flat shoes, they get to wear

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heels for the first time. They receive a tierra and

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they wear gloves, as well as having this religious side

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to things where everyone bows their head and they give

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thanks to God for the birthday girl and her beautiful

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life and this change that she's now turning into a woman.

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It's big and it matters, and Cynthia was to get

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all of this. Her parents worked so incredibly hard to

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provide the party of her dream, and I thought this

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one element was so sweet I had to tell it

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to you. They saved up their money for this party

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in an actual jar in their home. And in today's

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times of you know, electronic banking and you could swipe

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a card, you could write a check, whatever, this was

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just something so sweet and precious, and there is just

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a charm to this. It's just so authentic. They had

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a glass jar in the home and they would put

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their extra cash into it every week to save up

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for this party. The party went on, was amazing. Everyone

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was in attendance of this party. Afterwards, she's now older.

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And the summer months followed, and then that came to

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an end with schools starting backup, football games and pep rallies,

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seeing your friends that you haven't seen in a while.

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All of that was now in full wing. And it

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was now Monday, October seventeenth of twenty eleven, and Jose

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hadn't called for his weekend delivery route and instructions the

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day's prior, when he normally would. That was the way

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that they had worked things out for his weekend deliveries.

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He would have to call and get the instructions and

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where to go, and he usually would do that about

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on like a Friday. So his boss, her name was Blanca.

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She was really concerned about him because it was completely

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out of character. And we all know now, just by

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me telling you this little bit about him, that that

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wasn't like this man. He always called, he always showed up,

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and he never would just no show, no call. But

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not only did he not call the previous week for

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his route, he also never answered all weekend and now

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it's Monday, she still hasn't spoken to him. So Blanca

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became so worried that she decided that she was going

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to go by the house and she was going to

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check on him in person. In the back of her mind,

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she also knew that Gloria was known to be medically fragile.

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Maybe they all went down and were sick and needed

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someone to come by and help him out. Maybe they

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were just all really, really ill. So she stopped by

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and she knocked on the door, but when she knocked,

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the door was slightly a jar. So Blanca called out

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for Jose, Jose, Hey, are you here, Hello, But there

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was no answer. And on top of that, the door

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when she knocked it opened slightly, but enough that she

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could actually see inside the home, and what she saw

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was a house that was completely trashed your gut. I

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don't care who you are listening to this right now.

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Your gut knows when something isn't right. You have felt

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it before, that instinctual moment of Hm, this doesn't seem right,

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and Blanca knew immediately that there was an issue. For

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all of her ailments and all of her issues, Gloria

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still kept a tidy home, and this was just utter disarray.

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Quite frankly, it looked like filth. Okay, it wasn't just messy.

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I mean, there was trash on the ground, food discarded,

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and clothing all over the floor, and there was this

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random air up mattress right there in the doorway. It

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damn near looked like there had been a party or

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something at this trailer. There were Halloween decorations up and

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they were kind of like everywhere, right in the entryway.

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But y'all, it wasn't yet Halloween. I just told you

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that this was mid October, and certainly this was too

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early for a party to have been held. Plus the

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home was ransacked. It was decorated, but ransacked. It just

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it wasn't right. So Blanca became very uneasy at the site.

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She backed out off the porch and then she decided

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to make a phone call to the sheriff's office, so,

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of course this then enacted a welfare check, and considering

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the condition of the home in conjunction with Jose's whereabouts

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being unclear in him not following his traditional patterns, this

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became an issue, and so police got there and they

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decided to go inside because they felt that they had

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these exigent circumstances that would warrant them entering the home.

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So when they looked inside the doorway, they could immediately

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tell Blanca had not been exaggerating by the condition of

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this home. Normally, they would require a warrant to go inside,

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but again, exigent circumstances mean that the police thought, you know,

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we probably need to go inside and check on these people.

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Something looks very wrong. Well, this looked like a possible robbery,

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maybe even a home invasion the way that the home looked,

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and so their thoughts were held the family might be

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inside injured or heard or hell dead, We don't know,

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but this just looks horrific. They also didn't know who

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might still be inside. So they entered the home very

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slowly and very tactically, and they decided to clear the

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room or to clear the house room by room. The

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reality was that they didn't know if someone was hiding

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in the home, possibly or if they were holding the

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family hostage. Y'all, crazier things have happened. Live a little Okay,

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you've listened to this show probably for a while. If

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you've been here, you know that crazier shit has happened.

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So they alerted, They vocalized out loud, Sheriff's office, anyone here, Hello, Hello,

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and all of this is happening while they're carefully making

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their way through the house, the house room by room

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and clearing it of any possible danger. As they walked

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through the kitchen area, it was very obvious that someone

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had been in the middle of cooking something because the

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soup was still on the stove. There was no burner going,

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but there were open cans on the counter and cooking

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items out, as if whoever was cooking had been stopped

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mid preparation. So police continued to the back of the house,

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and when they got back there they found that the

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bedrooms were also destroyed. They looked like they had been

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tossed and that someone was searching for something. Clearly, this

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looked like a robbery had taken place, the drawers were open,

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closet doors were open with items strown about. But when

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it was all said and done, no one was found

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in the home. It was empty. Police were able to

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confirm that some items were missing from the house, and

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this was some jewelry boxes that normally were in there

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and some other valuables that were in the home and

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obviously were missing. But what the hell was going on?

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Because it was odd enough that the home was trashed,

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but then there was no obvious sign of a struggle,

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even though the house was a mess. And what I

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mean by this was there was no forced entry, No

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windows were broken, no doors kicked through and the doorft,

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doorframes shattered or anything like that. There was no broken

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sheet rock, There was no blood, There were no overturned tables,

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nothing of that nature. It just was a big ass mess.

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So once the home was cleared, investigators were called in.

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On top of the traditional just the officers that had

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arrived and cleared the home, they brought in investigators to

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kind of see what they thought may have happened. Well,

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robbery remained the lead assumption, that's what it looked like.

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So police decided that they were going to do what

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we all know they're going to do, and that's to

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canvas the area, speak to neighbors and see, hey, have

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you heard anything? Did you see anything? Was anything out

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of the ordinary, But it was what neighbors didn't see

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that was the consistent. They may not have known this

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family personally, they may not have known their relative habits

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or or anything like that, but they did know from

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the outside what the habits were of this family. And

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this is common for all of us. Think about your neighborhood.

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What typical cars are there, what typical people do you

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see in and out of the house. That's stuff that

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neighbors do. Pick up one and that said, everyone in

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the area agreed that they had not seen the family

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in days. It had been a while since they had

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seen any of them. This is not good. I don't

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have to tell you that, you know that. So investigators

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had to go further and they started to try and

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reach out to family and friends. And when they did this,

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they learned that older sister Diana was also unable to

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reach anyone she was concerned. So that's when the investigators said,

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all right, well we need to go up to the school.

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We've got to try and firm up the last day

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that Cynthia had been seen at school, so when they

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got up there, the school would also confirm we haven't

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seen her in a couple of days. This is just

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alarming on all levels. Who would want to hurt this family?

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That was the main question, because the belief that this

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family had just up and left their home in that condition,

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it just wasn't a reality. That's not anything what like

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what these people normally lived like, and for all three

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family members to be gone without a trace, no way,

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doesn't make a lick of sense. Eventually, though, more canvassing

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would pay off, because one neighbor spoke to them and

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said that he had seen Cynthia after the day that

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everyone else was saying that they had last seen the

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whole family. He was very specific too, and he had

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details about the encounter. He said he had passed her

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she was walking to the dumpster and he asked her, Hey,

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how's your mom doing? And Cynthia said she's doing okay.

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She'd been at the hospital due to an eye surgery,

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but she was recovering well. So the lead seemed very

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valuable because police could now get dates from the hospital

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as to when Gloria was there and solidified that timeline

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even even more. That would really help them to determine

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the family's last known whereabouts. So the police called the

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nearby hospital to inquire about Gloria's surgery, When did she

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first get admitted, what was her discharge date? But the

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hospital was unable to find any record of Gloria having

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ever been there. This is weird, but let's of course

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realize that there's more than one hospital, you know, in

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the area, and so that would take time, and the

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investigators would have to look further into what medical center.

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Was it inpatient, was it outpatient? They really didn't have

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a lot to go on except for what that neighbor

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had said. So with nothing else to go on, the

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police decided to return back to the family's home and

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sift through all of the trash and debris. Was there

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a possible lead that they could find there? And this

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was not going to be a small task either, because

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when you don't know what happened and you haven't been

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in the home before, even though you know that the

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home was typically well cared for and orderly, deciding what

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is evidence and what isn't evidence, it's still going to

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be very hard. I mean, do you keep the empty

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doctor pepperbox that has no drinks left in it? Maybe

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it has fingerprints on it? What about the office supplies

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that were found scattered about? Does this bottle of alcohol

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matter or not? What about the Halloween decorations, the costume

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pieces that were on the floor. Was the bedroom messy

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to start with or was the whole room tossed? I

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want you to really think about that for a second.

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What matters? How do you pick what matters when there's

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mounds of trash and debris everywhere? And this is why

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photographs would really matter in this instance. So the plan

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is basically, when you go to a crime scene, you

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take a photo of everything as is, and then you

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start looking and moving and checking areas for clues. So,

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sifting through the mess after they had taken the photographs,

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a detective picked up a notebook that was on the

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couch and he starts just flipping through the pages of

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the notebook. You never know, you know, maybe it matters,

473
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:03.200
maybe it doesn't. And while he's flipping through this wasn't

474
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.359
like a formal notebook that someone had for like history

475
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.160
class or a notebook where you know, my grandmother used

476
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.279
to keep a notebook, and she would write all her

477
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.559
bills and everything that she paid in her notebook so

478
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.000
she could keep track of it. But it wasn't like that.

479
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.799
It was just very random. The notebook was. There were

480
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:25.279
some messages written on a couple of different pages, but

481
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:28.720
it was random, and it looked like they were rushed notes.

482
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.400
They were short sentences written across the page too, not

483
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.160
in the lines. Okay, so like a big note if

484
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.079
you were going to leave a note like be back

485
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.319
soon or something, if you were leaving a note for somebody.

486
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.559
So another way I would describe it to you, because

487
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.119
I want you to understand what it looked like. Is

488
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:47.400
let's say that you were writing in a car and

489
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.480
you wanted to tell the person in traffic next to

490
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:54.200
you that their tire was going flat. But you're driving right,

491
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.519
so you can't really wave them down. You might just

492
00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.599
grab a piece of paper and really largely across the page,

493
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.519
put your tires flat, and hold it up against the window. Okay,

494
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.160
does that make sense? I hope that gives you a

495
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.279
picture of kind of what this looked like. Now, curiosity

496
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:13.359
took over, and so the officer started reading the notes

497
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.160
as he was flipping through the pages trying to find them,

498
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:19.279
and the messages. I'm going to read for you word

499
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.599
for word what they said. One of them said I

500
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:29.559
am scared, Another one said what if she goes to sleep?

501
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:36.720
Another one said me what question mark? Another one said

502
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.960
I cannot do it. Then he got to the last

503
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:47.519
one and it said can you kill her? Question mark?

504
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:54.400
So obviously that's concerning what the hell is this. So

505
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.920
the notebook was taken as evidence, but as you can

506
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:00.519
see right now, it didn't really point to in or

507
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.920
anything specifically. It just was very alarming and what it said,

508
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:09.640
what it looked like, though to the lead detective, were

509
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.359
que cards, like if you were telling an audience to

510
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.480
applaud at the right time holding up a cue card.

511
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.160
So believing that this may have been a piece of

512
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:24.599
the puzzle, the detectives started to think, well, maybe there

513
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:28.400
were two people involved in whatever is happening here and

514
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:32.319
why this family has disappeared, and maybe they used this

515
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:38.400
notebook to like communicate quietly across the room. Now, look,

516
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.839
I know that's weird as shit, okay, but they didn't

517
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.079
have really anything else to go on that was solid,

518
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.519
and so that kind of just became an idea that

519
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.559
they had and they just noted it as maybe that's

520
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.680
what's going on, but we don't really know. So talking

521
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:57.160
more with Diana, police learned more about the family, including

522
00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.799
that Cynthia had a little boyfriend that she had been

523
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:03.160
waiting for about a year. And this kind of pequked

524
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:07.599
the interest of the investigators because they hadn't been contacted,

525
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:12.160
no police record of this boyfriend calling in about his

526
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.640
missing girlfriend, so they thought, well, maybe we need to

527
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.759
talk to him, because you know, I mean, if your

528
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.759
girlfriend was missing for days and you didn't reach out,

529
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.240
wouldn't you wonder where she where's she at? She's not

530
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:26.480
answering the phone whatever. Police were able to identify her

531
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:30.839
boyfriend as Giovanni Guaiardo, so he did go to school

532
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.160
with Cynthia. That's where they had met. So they went

533
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:35.640
back up to the school and they decided that they

534
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.799
wanted to try to speak with him there and see

535
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.119
what he knew. But he wasn't there, so they got

536
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.599
his address of his home and they decided to go

537
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:48.079
by his house and see if he was home. Now

538
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.039
that said, I will let you know that there were

539
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.799
some mumblings that Cynthia's parents did not like her boyfriend,

540
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:59.680
if if not hated him, okay, but he had been

541
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:03.240
at her or Keinsignia party in June, so that seemed

542
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.000
to have been cleared up since they had allowed him

543
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.519
to come and be there on her big day. That said,

544
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.319
he also was going to be throwing a Halloween party

545
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:17.960
with Cynthia at her home soon, so obviously things had

546
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:22.279
improved and they were all kind of, you know, coexisting

547
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:26.759
together in a good way. That party, This was a

548
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:28.880
real thing that was supposed to happen because there were

549
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:33.039
really nice invitations. They were green and they had black

550
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:38.160
glitter embellishments on them of bats and filigree. Cynthia had

551
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.000
invited everyone in her class to come to this party

552
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.559
and it was going to be held on Halloween night,

553
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:48.960
starting at eight pm, so it kind of was given them. Okay. Well,

554
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.920
they had plans to have a party before the family disappeared,

555
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:55.480
so and Giovanni was going to be helping with that.

556
00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:00.000
So they finally were able to get a little bit

557
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.839
about a little bit of information about him. Giovanni. He

558
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.160
was a heavier set kid. He struggled in school with

559
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.239
complaints about kids being mean to him. I got the

560
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:15.000
gist he wasn't necessarily a popular kid. He did dream

561
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.320
of being a mechanic one day, and that was kind

562
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:20.679
of what his mindset was. He didn't seem like he'd

563
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.400
be a college bound kid or anything like that. He

564
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.960
was going to be more blue collar, working with his hands,

565
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.119
which I think is a great thing. We need more

566
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.920
kids like that. And he and Cynthia had just really

567
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.880
hit it off together, and this relationship was a strong

568
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.960
one between the two of them. One commonality between Cynthia

569
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:43.000
and Giovanni was that she wasn't necessarily the strongest of

570
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.920
students either. And so I'm unclear, and I like to

571
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.800
be very very upfront in this, but I'm unclear if

572
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:54.960
her struggles if it was a language processing disorder as

573
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.760
in she had trouble going from Spanish to English, or

574
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.079
if it was a processing disord or that was a

575
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.320
literacy issue, like she just didn't process information well. But

576
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.000
either way, she was in special education classes in that

577
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:14.880
she needed extra assistance. But she was not developmentally delayed

578
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.440
or anything of that nature. She acted age appropriate and

579
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.360
was a normal team other than she just was not

580
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:26.159
a very strong student. So obviously they both had their struggles,

581
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.840
but they saw the best in one another. They dreamed

582
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.599
of getting married one day and all that jazz. They

583
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:36.679
were just in love, living their best life until now

584
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:41.320
because Cynthia was missing. So when they got to the home,

585
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:46.719
police learned that again Giovanni wasn't there. So they spoke

586
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:48.719
to his mother and they said, look, when was the

587
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:53.159
last time that you saw Cynthia? We really are trying

588
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.079
to figure out when is the last time anyone has

589
00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.000
put eyes on this child. But her answer surprised them

590
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:06.880
because she said, well, yesterday, yesterday, Yeah, she was with Giovanni.

591
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.880
I saw him both yesterday. Okay, well where are they now? Then?

592
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:16.000
What do you mean? And the mom wasn't sure. Let

593
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.599
me pause right there. I don't know what kind of

594
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:22.280
mother he had. Okay, I don't know if she just

595
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.400
didn't keep tabs on her kids. I don't know if

596
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.239
they were frequently absent from school. So right then and there,

597
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.360
I know, right now you're kind of squirreling up your face, going, well,

598
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:31.880
how does she not know where a kid is? You

599
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.199
know whatever, guys, we all live different lives. But police

600
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.079
were like, okay, you saw them together yesterday for sure,

601
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:44.679
and she said, yes, okay, Well if you see her again,

602
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.000
we would really like to speak with her, and they left.

603
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:50.639
The police left, they could there was nothing else they

604
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.719
could really do. They were just going to go back

605
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:55.800
to trying to find this family. Now they kind of

606
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.800
got the idea of maybe maybe she had her dates

607
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.039
wrong because no one had seen Cynthia, so this was

608
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.840
kind of weird. Well, the neighbor who had spoken to

609
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:12.159
Cynthia prior to the family's disappearance, remember that guy that said, yeah,

610
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.760
I saw her at the dumpster, Well, he had given

611
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:21.599
additional details in that original conversation that now seemed uber important.

612
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:26.079
Remember he had spoken to her and he had inquired

613
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.119
about her mother and how was she doing while they

614
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.679
were at that dumpster. Well, turns out if you went

615
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:36.000
and you looked in the dumpster, the items that were

616
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:41.960
being tossed out kind of stood out to him because

617
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.320
she was throwing out it seemed like a lot of stuff,

618
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.800
and so he's like, what's going on, Why are you

619
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.159
throwing all this stuff away? And she said, oh, well,

620
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.400
we're really trying to tidy up the house. We're really

621
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.440
trying to clean up, and mom can't do it, and

622
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.000
so I'm the one that's you know, taken I guess

623
00:37:58.039 --> 00:37:59.920
taken the lead and I'm going to help my mom.

624
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:03.039
She was tossing out some of the clothes and some

625
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.159
old pictures and things of that nature, and it was

626
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.199
just really sweet. You know that she's a good kid

627
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.920
and she's helping her ailing mother like this because her

628
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:14.039
mom was not doing well well. When those dates were

629
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.519
really hammered out by police and they were looking at

630
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:21.960
things step by step, it was realized that that discussion

631
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.800
that the neighbor had with Cynthia took place after the

632
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:28.719
last time that her parents were seen. But that made

633
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.599
sense because they were at the hospital. So now the

634
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:37.639
question was, well, when did Cynthia go missing exactly? Because

635
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:41.880
Cynthia had to have gone missing after her parents went missing,

636
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.800
and since they were tidying up the house and now

637
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.920
the house is trashed, now they're trying to figure out

638
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.440
that timeline of when could that have happened. Well, the

639
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:57.400
very next morning, after police went to Giovanni's house, Giovanni's

640
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.280
mom called back into the police and said, look both

641
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.840
to my son and I let him know that y'all

642
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:07.280
are looking for Cynthia's parents and that y'all wanted to

643
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:11.519
talk to him. But she did the police a big

644
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:15.840
solid because she not only told him that, but she

645
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.519
put him in the car and she was now bringing

646
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:22.159
him down to the station to talk. But not only that,

647
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:29.960
she also said, oh, I have Cynthia in the car too. Yeah,

648
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.000
for real, this mom was not crazy. She wasn't confused.

649
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.800
She had seen Cynthia alive and well the days prior,

650
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.280
and now she had her in the car. Okay, she

651
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.159
was calling because they were both in the car. She

652
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.599
was going to bring them down to the station immediately

653
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.159
so that police could talk to them. So they pull

654
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:55.639
up and the investigators do exactly what investigators do when

655
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.599
something doesn't seem right. They separated the two teams for questioning.

656
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:03.719
Now Giovanni, just so you know, very calm. He's in

657
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:07.119
blue jeans, a black pullover. He's got these kind of thicker,

658
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:11.239
black framed glasses. Cynthia too, if you're watching the body language,

659
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.079
Very calm. She's in jeans, a fitted yellow T shirt.

660
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:19.920
Typical high school kids, fifteen, sixteen years old. So they

661
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:24.440
separated them and they started questioning them separately, but even separately,

662
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.880
both kids gave the exact same chain of events of

663
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.920
recent history. Cynthia's mom had been hospitalized for her eye surgery.

664
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:39.280
The stepfather was visiting her at the hospital, but they

665
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.880
were now kind of weirded out because neither one of

666
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:46.920
them had seen the parents in days, and so they

667
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:51.760
were starting to really worry because, you know, Cynthia had

668
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.239
basically been on her own since her mother left for

669
00:40:54.280 --> 00:41:00.440
the eye surgery. This just was starting to stress her out.

670
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:06.320
But here's the immediate kicker. Detectives had already done their

671
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:11.800
due diligence. They had verified all medical locations in the area.

672
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:18.079
They had verified that Gloria was never at any of

673
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:22.159
those locations, nor was she scheduled to be at any

674
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.239
of those locations, nor was there a surgery, nor had

675
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:31.559
she ever been hospitalized. Cynthia, when she was confronted with this,

676
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:37.719
her response was total shock. What do you mean She's

677
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.360
never been to the hospital at all. No, there's no surgery.

678
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.559
So she absorbs it a little bit and she says, Okay, well,

679
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.079
now I'm starting to believe that maybe he never took

680
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.599
my mom to the hospital at all. Is that a possibility?

681
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.960
Do you think that maybe he never took her? And

682
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:02.760
when pressed more about not seeing either of them, she

683
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:07.800
then gave up even more information. She says, well, look,

684
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.840
you know, all has not been well on the home

685
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:14.719
front at our house for a while. She said, specifically,

686
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:19.800
my stepdad's been acting pretty erratically, so in what ways

687
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:22.000
we need to know? Like, what do you mean? And

688
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.320
Cynthia explained that he had even pulled a gun on

689
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.039
her and Giovanni recently, right before they went missing, I guess,

690
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:33.880
And this was so out of left field, so out

691
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.840
of character. He had never acted like this before, and

692
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.280
it totally took both of the teens by surprise and

693
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:44.599
fought out, just scared them, and it scared her in

694
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:46.880
the moment, obviously because she'd never had a gun pulled

695
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.559
on her before, but also because she said he had

696
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.320
a heart condition and this was really stressful. This was

697
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:57.800
out of character. It just wasn't It wasn't normal. Something

698
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.639
was wrong. So they asked her, okay, well, tell us

699
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.480
more about cleaning out the house. What was going on,

700
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.000
and that's when Cynthia explained that she was throwing away

701
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.480
her mother's clothes and some of the family photos. But

702
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:17.440
what police didn't realize was that it was all of

703
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:21.960
her mother's clothes and the photos, all of them. So

704
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:26.119
now this begs the obvious question, Why would you do that?

705
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.440
Why would you throw away all of your mother's stuff?

706
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.880
Your mom was just in the hospital, she's coming back.

707
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.960
Why would you do that? But Cynthia explained the timeline,

708
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:41.000
and this was when her stepfather had pulled the gun

709
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.599
on her. He forced her to throw out all of

710
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:48.639
her mother's belongings in the dumpster. She said she was

711
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.039
directed by him to do it, and he told her

712
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.760
that if you open your mouth, I'm going to kill you,

713
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:58.679
and I'm going to kill Giovanni. So this was when

714
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.559
she first suspected that something may not actually be right

715
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.920
with her mom, and her mom having been gone so long,

716
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.320
maybe he didn't actually bring her to the hospital. That's

717
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:12.639
why he had me throwing away her things. But then

718
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.280
Cynthia was shown the notebooks and the writings that were

719
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:20.559
taken into evidence from the house, and she didn't hesitate either.

720
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:27.079
She admitted, that's absolutely yes, that's my handwriting. I wrote that. Well,

721
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.840
this was an obvious issue. Why would you be writing

722
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.760
things like can you kill her? Who is her? What's

723
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.400
going on? Who are you asking? You need to explain this?

724
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.239
What does it mean? And the silence at that moment

725
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:49.159
was palpable. She just looked at them, and that is

726
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:57.119
when the story completely shifted. Cynthia now explained that her

727
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:01.960
boyfriend Giovanni wanted to kill her her parents, and she

728
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:07.800
said no, she was scared. Why would Giovanni want to

729
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.400
kill your parents? You need to fill us in here

730
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.599
because we're not understanding. And she brought up that tension

731
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:18.159
I mentioned before of her parents hating him, and this

732
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:21.719
tension between the two of them. She said it had escalated,

733
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.360
it had started to take a huge toll on Giovanni,

734
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:28.239
and the fact was that her parents were talking really

735
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.519
ugly about him. They had even called Giovanni's mother at

736
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.880
one point and told his mother, we don't want them together,

737
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.559
we don't want them seeing each other. And he took

738
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.639
this very very personal. I mean, as did his mom.

739
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:42.719
His mom, you know, you love your kid and you

740
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.679
don't ever think your kid should be treated that way.

741
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:47.599
What's wrong with my son? He's not good enough for

742
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.039
your daughter. It just brought about a lot of tension.

743
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:56.599
Cynthia's main her parents main beef basically was that it's

744
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.840
they can have a relationship, they're teenagers. Their issue was

745
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:02.599
that they said it was going way too fast. It

746
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.119
had become way too intense for their age and it

747
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:10.920
needed to slow down. They needed to back off of

748
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:13.639
how much they were together. And I think, reading between

749
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.440
the lines, what I'm getting at is they didn't want

750
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:17.519
her to get pregnant. All right, I'm just throwing it

751
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:19.920
out there. It's my humble opinion, but that's what I

752
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.000
think was going on here. Well, Cynthia said that set

753
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:27.719
him off. He was not going to have that, and

754
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:32.039
that's when he decided that he wanted to kill her parents.

755
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:34.239
He wanted to be able to be with her and

756
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:38.320
they had to go. Well. The questioning continued until she

757
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.519
laid out exactly what happened the night that both of

758
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:46.320
her parents disappeared. Are you ready for this? It was

759
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:50.880
the evening of October twelfth, when she was watching TV

760
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:57.280
and Giovanni showed up unannounced and uninvited at their trailer,

761
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.920
and he also had a backpack with him. Inside of

762
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.719
that backpack was basically what you and I would call

763
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:09.039
a kill kit. He had a baseball bat, a knife, gloves,

764
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:13.119
a rag, and a bottle of alcohol. Why did he

765
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.760
bring a bottle of alcohol? Hold on, just a moment,

766
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:17.679
hold that thought for a sec because I'm going to

767
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.880
get back to it in just a second. But when

768
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:25.719
he got there, Miss Gloria was preparing dinner in the kitchen,

769
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:31.079
making none other than chicken soup for Cynthia, because Cynthia

770
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:35.639
had requested that for supper that night. When Giovanni came

771
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:39.480
into the house, he had on a black skull mask on.

772
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:44.239
By the way, this black mask looks like the mask

773
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:48.760
from the movie Scream, but it's completely black, blacked out.

774
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.639
He had a mask on and that mask. As she

775
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:56.519
was explaining this to detectives, they started thinking back, that

776
00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:59.920
was the very description of a Halloween mask that was

777
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.679
found in the home while they were searching for evidence.

778
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.239
The mask was on the floor in the kitchen. HM,

779
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:13.239
So now he's in the house. Because of the layout

780
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.679
of the home, Miss Gloria couldn't see him come in

781
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:18.960
from the kitchen where she was. She couldn't have seen

782
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.239
him come in. And this is where the alcohol came in,

783
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.280
because Giovanni basically thought that if he doused the rag

784
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.920
he brought in alcohol like rubbing alcohol, that would make

785
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.280
someone pass out if he pressed it on their face. Now,

786
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:40.519
this is rather laughable, but for entertainment purposes only and allegedly,

787
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.199
and of course I would never ever ever suggest that

788
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.079
this be done. I will say that if you mix

789
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:52.559
alcohol rubbing alcohol with bleach, that would make primitive chloroform,

790
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.920
and that could potentially make someone pass out. But either way,

791
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:01.159
he didn't have both of those, he only had the alcohol. Well,

792
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.880
when he came into the house, that's when Cynthia realized

793
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.000
what he was going to do, and that's why she

794
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:14.000
started writing those notes to him on the notepad. Now curiously, quietly,

795
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:20.280
might I add, she wrote those almost as if her mother.

796
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.280
You know, she didn't want her mother to hear her

797
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:30.360
writing these notes while she was cooking for her daughter. So,

798
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:33.199
realizing in that moment while they're discussing back and forth

799
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.440
that Giovanni was very serious, she said, she got very

800
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:41.079
panicky and she ran outside while Giovanni attacked and ultimately

801
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.760
killed her parents. At this point, she was an absolute

802
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:48.039
sheer terror. She was now afraid of him too, so

803
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.760
she went along with him from that day forward so

804
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.639
that he wouldn't kill her as well. Basically, look, he's

805
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:56.599
obsessed with me. You know, I'm scared out of my mind.

806
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.000
I don't know what to do. I think he killed

807
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:05.039
my parents, this is a help me please. So now

808
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:08.159
that they had a semi solid story of something they

809
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:11.280
believed could have truly happened based on the evidence they saw,

810
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.400
police went in to speak further with Giovanni in the

811
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:18.679
other room. It was at this point though, that he

812
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:25.480
totally agreed with everything that Cynthia said. However, he kept

813
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:30.440
talking and he gave up a little bit more information. See.

814
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.159
His explanation of things was that she was writing him

815
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:38.960
queue cards and holding them up for him, but that

816
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:44.920
some were telling him where her mother was what she

817
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:49.320
was doing. See when she was holding up the que cards,

818
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.719
he was hiding behind a wall where mom couldn't see him.

819
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:55.360
So there was more to the que cards than just

820
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.199
those questions and those things that say I'm scared. There

821
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:02.000
were ones that were like the counter walking down the

822
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:07.280
hall ah, So she was giving up more information than

823
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:11.360
just being scared that he walked into the home. When

824
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:16.360
he explained the killings, even more came to light, like

825
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:20.519
the fact that when he attacked her mother, Cynthia did

826
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:24.039
go outside. He confirmed that she walked out the door

827
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.639
because she knew what was about to happen to her mother,

828
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:35.280
and she said nothing, no warning no last minute appeal

829
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:40.000
to conscience, no effort to save her mother. Nothing. She

830
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:45.320
walked outside and she shut the door behind her. But look, babe,

831
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.639
not watching your mother be murdered doesn't mean you're not

832
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:54.519
a part of it, does it. Now? That poor woman

833
00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:01.079
was cooking her selfish and ungrateful daughter's exit exact meal

834
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.920
request when she was attacked by a person from behind

835
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:11.400
wearing a fucking scream mask. How scary would that be

836
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.119
to be attacked from behind with someone wearing the very

837
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:21.719
mask from a horror movie where people are murdered. He

838
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:25.199
covered her nose and her mouth with a rag soaked

839
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.440
in alcohol, and then took away her ability to breathe

840
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.480
as she was struggling with him. She struggled with all

841
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.880
that she had. But y'all, she was already weak. She

842
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.199
couldn't walk well. The woman used a cane for crying

843
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:42.239
out loud. She couldn't see well either. He just made

844
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:44.519
the attack that much easier for him to do it.

845
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.119
She was overpowered with ease, and once he slammed her

846
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.760
down on the ground, he got on top of her

847
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.960
and he strangled the life out of that woman while

848
00:52:55.000 --> 00:53:01.239
her daughter waited outside the front door. The betrayal in this,

849
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:06.360
The betrayal in this is just beyond anything. I mean,

850
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:12.119
biology alone shouldn't allow this. The instinct to protect your

851
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.119
very own bloodline, it's like ingrained in us. You do

852
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:21.400
anything for your family, especially your mother. But she just waited.

853
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.360
She walked outside, and she just waited. But that's not

854
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:34.159
all because Cynthia's stepdad wasn't home yet. Detectives didn't realize that. No,

855
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:36.960
he wasn't home yet and he wouldn't be for a

856
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:43.039
few hours. So after he brutally and callously murdered her mother,

857
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:47.679
Cynthia came back inside the house and then walked over

858
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:53.440
and looked at her dead mother. Did she cry? Did

859
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:55.800
she scream out? Did she say no and run to

860
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:58.480
the phone and dial nine to one one? Of course

861
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:03.920
she didn't. What she did do is kneel down and

862
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:08.400
remove her mother's jewelry that was of value. And then

863
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.639
the two of them went and plopped down on the

864
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:18.039
couch watching TV until mister Jose pulled in the driveway

865
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:23.400
about eight point thirty that evening. Cynthia forgot to mention

866
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:27.559
those details, and at that point when they heard the

867
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:31.480
car pull up and the door shut, Giovanni got up

868
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:35.280
and he hid behind the door, and that's when mister

869
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:38.679
Jose came inside. He put the keys in, he turned

870
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:42.280
the door, and he walked in, completely unaware that he

871
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.320
was about to walk in to a literal fight for

872
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.840
his life. And when he stepped inside, he was immediately

873
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:54.360
attacked the bat that Giovanni had brought. He swung it

874
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:58.000
down with full force and struck mister Jose in the head,

875
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:02.280
which would have completely disorbed him. He was greatly injured,

876
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:06.639
but instinct it proves a very powerful thing at this point,

877
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:10.760
because Jose wanted to live, and although he had just

878
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.119
been bashed in the skull with a baseball bat, he

879
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.639
had a knife on his person, one that he always

880
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:19.880
carried on him, and he pulled out that knife and

881
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:24.639
began trying to defend himself, swinging the knife. But Giovanni

882
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.559
already had the upper hand and he swung the bat again,

883
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:31.480
cracking down on mister Jose's skull. This caused him to

884
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.159
crumple to the ground, and as he fell and he

885
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.079
hit the ground, the knife that he had, the only

886
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.360
tool he had to defend himself, fell out of his hand,

887
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:45.559
and luckily for mister Jose. His loving stepdaughter was there

888
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:50.519
watching as she saw quote black stuff start coming out

889
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:54.360
of his head end quote, Well, that black stuff is

890
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:57.360
called a ton of blood in the dark. That's why

891
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:02.239
it was black. That was bright red blood gushing from

892
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:07.239
her stepfather's skull. That's what she was watching. And what

893
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.679
did she do upon seeing this horrific injury to the

894
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.960
man that she called dad. What did she do at

895
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:19.880
that point? Well, the man that doated on her, that

896
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:24.920
scrimped and saved everything he had, that put dollar bills

897
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.639
in a jar and saved up for her birthday party,

898
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:31.679
the guy that bought her everything that she ever wanted.

899
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:36.599
What did his loving stepdaughter do? She ran over and

900
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.079
kicked the knife away from him, ensuring that he was

901
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:44.039
out of his reach. And then she went in the

902
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.960
kitchen and grabbed another knife and brought it to her

903
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.320
boyfriend so that he could then jump on top of

904
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:53.519
her stepdad and start stabbing him over and over and

905
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:57.440
over again. So as mister Jose crumpled to the ground,

906
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.800
Giovanni jumped on top of him. He's bleeding from his skull,

907
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:06.360
and now he's being stabbed and stabbed and stabbed until

908
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:13.159
the life faded from him. That is what that bitch did.

909
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:18.880
And by bitch, I mean both of them. So what

910
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:24.039
did the couple do after this violent, bloody and vicious

911
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:32.719
blitz style double murder of her mother. Well, they hung out,

912
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:36.480
that's what they did. They hung out and they waited

913
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:41.119
until after midnight before they took the wrapped bodies. The

914
00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:46.159
bodies they wrapped up in sheets. They took them and

915
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:50.679
they loaded the bodies of her parents into the back

916
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:55.840
of Miss Gloria's red jeep Cherokee, and that's when they

917
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:59.440
went out driving. They were scoping out the best place

918
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:04.800
to dig graves, because that's normal, because that's what teenagers do,

919
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:10.639
said nobody ever. But they found a place in North

920
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:13.760
Long Beach and that's where they decided to park, and

921
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:18.000
under the moonlight, in the dark, they got shovels and

922
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:22.119
dug the hole. But digging a hole is much harder

923
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.760
than the movies make it, isn't it. You know why,

924
00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:29.920
because the movies aren't real. People shouldn't act like that

925
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.159
it's a movie. They read a script. But this this

926
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:40.119
was real life, and digging a grave is hard. So

927
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.920
when they went to go dump both of the bodies

928
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.599
into the grave, it was just two damn shallow to

929
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.639
fit both of the bodies. But they were spent. They

930
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:55.800
were tired. It's hard work when you murder someone and

931
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:01.320
then go dig a grave. So Jose was a smaller man.

932
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:05.840
They rolled his body into the unmarked grave and buried

933
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.719
him back up with the dirt. But before that, they

934
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:12.920
picked Miss Gloria back up out of the grave and

935
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:15.079
la her on the ground while they filled it back in.

936
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:20.239
Then after he was covered up, they picked Miss Gloria

937
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:25.480
back up and threw her back into the vehicle. Where

938
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:28.280
did they go now they had a dead body still

939
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:31.880
in the back of their car. Well, they went back home,

940
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:37.280
They cleaned up, and they went to bed together. The

941
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:41.400
next morning they got up and they went to school

942
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:47.400
with Miss Gloria still in the back of the jeep.

943
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:54.880
I don't know what you believe, but I damn sure

944
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:58.400
believe in honor thy mother and honor thy father. I

945
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.559
believe it with every ounce of my And to think

946
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.840
that they could go to school and go throughout the

947
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:12.400
day like nothing was happening, after just murdering her own

948
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.559
parents and leaving her mother still in the back of

949
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:23.159
the car, that is a level of cold that I hope.

950
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:31.440
No one I've ever encountered can understand. So they leave

951
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:34.840
school after that day and now, guys, they're free to

952
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:38.679
do whatever they want. They could do whatever they want.

953
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:42.400
There's no parents now, but first they're gonna need some cash.

954
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:48.239
Why well, the parents are gone, and Cynthia now wants

955
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:54.480
to throw a huge Halloween party, Yes, the ones that

956
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:59.440
she sent out those awesome invitations for now. Looking back,

957
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:02.760
friends did think it odd that Giovanni would be hosting

958
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:05.400
the party with her since her parents hated him, But whatever,

959
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.679
Teenagers don't think much past that. It was just cool

960
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:12.159
that get this. No parents were gonna be at this party.

961
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:16.679
The kids at school were stoked. This is gonna be sick.

962
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:18.880
We're gonna go this house and party the night away.

963
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:21.920
Of course, no parents were gonna be there. They were dead.

964
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:28.119
They couldn't be there. So the couple then sold off

965
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:32.159
everything of value from the home. But guess what, teenagers

966
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:36.400
are idiots. They don't know how to do anything like that.

967
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.760
That's that's in the realm of reality. So they sold

968
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:43.239
everything and they only made a whopping five hundred dollars.

969
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:47.679
So what did they do? They were stoked with it.

970
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.719
That was plenty enough for Cynthia to go buy invitations,

971
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:58.199
buy the decorations for her Halloween blowout bash, with her

972
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:02.000
mother still in the back of the jeep. She also

973
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.599
went and bought herself a really cool, really sexy witch's costume,

974
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:07.760
and she was gonna wear that to the party. She

975
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:10.360
was gonna look so hot in it. This was gonna

976
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:15.440
be awesome. Cynthia really sounds terrified, doesn't she, Just like

977
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:22.480
she told the police, she was so scared terrified. Oh

978
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:25.519
and why was the house trashed? I'm glad you asked

979
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:29.800
well to start, Teens are slobs. And when you kill

980
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:33.159
your mother, the one who took care of the home, well,

981
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:36.400
when you murder her, she was now no longer there

982
01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:39.719
to pick up after everyone. So they just trashed the place.

983
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.760
When they ate, they threw the food down where they sat.

984
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:46.960
When they drank, they threw the cans down where they sat.

985
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:50.400
When they changed clothes, threw them down wherever they were.

986
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.719
But also there was something else that caused that house

987
01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:59.760
to be trashed, and it was because Cynthia was really

988
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.719
at her mother, because her mother had taken away her

989
01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:10.840
iPod for her misbehavior. Yeah, now, looking back through some records,

990
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:13.599
it would be found that Cynthia had been acting up

991
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:17.679
for a while now, stealing money from the house, stealing

992
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:21.280
money from her parents, buying bus tickets, and riding off

993
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:23.960
into the sunset with her boyfriend. No wonder they were

994
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:27.960
pissed off. The teenagers were acting like morons together, not

995
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.440
following the rules. She had even snuck him into their

996
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:33.199
house one time and got caught. I'm sure she snuck

997
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.119
him in more than once, but got caught. She was

998
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.760
acting like an idiot, and so Miss Gloria took away

999
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:42.880
her iPod as part of her punishment. But being the

1000
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:46.840
knight in shining armor that Giovanni was, he had literally

1001
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:52.559
destroyed that house, flipping it upside down, not to rob it,

1002
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:56.920
but looking for that iPod when he finally got his

1003
01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:02.039
hands on it inside of Miss Gloria's closet, and Cynthia

1004
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:05.480
she was just tickled pink whenever her hero gave it

1005
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:14.400
back to her three days later. Three days later, that's

1006
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:17.679
whenever they went driving again and they found an abandoned

1007
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:21.400
home in the area where they got out again and

1008
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:25.519
dug another grave and dumped her mother in it. So,

1009
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:28.880
if you're following what I'm saying here, they drove around

1010
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:34.519
with a decomposing woman in the heat for days and

1011
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:40.840
thought nothing of it. But why was Giovanni willing to kill?

1012
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.599
Was his hatred for them so great that he just

1013
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.079
snapped that He just lost control and he went and

1014
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:52.599
he killed them. Well, he did dislike them, But there

1015
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:55.679
had to be a nudge there, don't you think for

1016
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:59.440
a teenager to be willing to kill, something had to

1017
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.559
have prodded him, Something had to have nudged him. And

1018
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:08.920
Cynthia she just happened to provide that nudge. Yes, her

1019
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:13.559
parents hated him, but just before the murders took place,

1020
01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:18.760
Cynthia disclosed to him that her stepdad had been raping her.

1021
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:24.400
That is what threw him into a rage. She just

1022
01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:31.039
provided the fuel to an already smoldering fire. So Giovanni

1023
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:34.960
is now, wait what, you're having sex with him? Oh

1024
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:37.400
so he wants you, but he won't let me have you.

1025
01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:44.039
We'll see about that. So she can claim that he

1026
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.159
planned it all that she wanted to. She can put

1027
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.880
all of this on Giovanni until the day that she dies.

1028
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.760
But let me tell you something. She can claim she

1029
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:55.800
was afraid of Giovanni. She can claim any of that,

1030
01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.719
but I ain't buying it. I'm not buying a lock

1031
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:02.320
of it, and neither were the police, and I bet

1032
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:05.000
neither are you. You know why, we live in the

1033
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:09.639
real world where we need evidence, where people's histories and behaviors,

1034
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:13.599
all of that should come into play. So to confirm

1035
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:17.159
this suspicion. Because police just didn't believe what anything she

1036
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:20.280
was saying at this point, they then decided, let's put

1037
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:24.960
the two teen lovers back together in a room alone,

1038
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:28.400
and that's what they did. All the detectives left, leaving

1039
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:31.480
those two together, and what they didn't know was that

1040
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:34.679
there was a camera in the room. So as soon

1041
01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:37.119
as the police left. I want you to know this,

1042
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.800
whenever Cynthia's talking to the police, she's small. If you're

1043
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:43.000
watching me podcast right now, you can watch on Patreon.

1044
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:47.400
She's small, she's timid, she's scared, she doesn't know what

1045
01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:55.719
to do. Horrible. But the second that Giovanni is brought

1046
01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:01.760
into that room, that meek and traumatized per personality totally

1047
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.679
shifted and you can see it plain as day. It's disgusting.

1048
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:09.679
The door shuts and then she waves Giovanni over and

1049
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:12.360
pats like, come sit by me. He does exactly what

1050
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.880
she says. She then starts smiling at him, this shit

1051
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.039
eating grin, earty ear, and leans in and is being flirty,

1052
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:22.880
and she gives him some kisses, and her tone at

1053
01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:28.960
that point it changes, It becomes serious, and a cold

1054
01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:33.440
bloodedness comes right out. You can't miss it. The fact

1055
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.079
is this guy's she ran that show. She ran it

1056
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:39.840
from top to bottom. She told him how to handle

1057
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:42.840
the interview from that point forward, she told him what

1058
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:49.440
to do. All of it caught on camera. Game over, bitch,

1059
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:55.559
because now you just played yourself. Those Halloween invitations were

1060
01:07:55.559 --> 01:07:57.960
a total waste of money. I'm gonna go ahead and

1061
01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:00.400
tell you that, because after all of their playing and

1062
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:05.119
everything that they had done, on October nineteenth, both teenagers

1063
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:07.840
were arrested and charged with the murders of Miss Gloria

1064
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:13.039
and mister Jose. Now, once they were arrested, Giovanni would

1065
01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:16.119
go on and help the investigators locate mister Jose's body,

1066
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:19.520
as well as the bat that he used to kill him.

1067
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.000
But when they went to go get miss Gloria, she

1068
01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:29.960
was missing from her impromptu grave. Her body was gone.

1069
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:34.319
What the fuck? How could the body be gone? Well,

1070
01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:37.560
this was quickly answered, because it turned out that a

1071
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:41.520
jogger in the area had discovered her body four days earlier.

1072
01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:46.640
She was already laying badly decomposed yet frozen at the

1073
01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:51.479
coroner's office, reduced to a Jane Doe until she could

1074
01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:57.600
be identified. In twenty thirteen, both Cynthia and Giovanni went

1075
01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:02.600
on trial, and both were charged as adults. So Cynthia

1076
01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:05.840
went on trial first, and of course she goes all

1077
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:09.520
in with her sexual abuse claims against mister Jose and

1078
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:14.039
all she managed to do was piss off everyone that

1079
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:20.159
knew her. Everyone anyone that knew that man said no

1080
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:26.199
freaking way, no way, I'm sorry, no way, it didn't happen.

1081
01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:29.399
It just didn't happen. And for me, attacking a dead

1082
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:31.600
man's character has got to be one of the lowest

1083
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:33.680
things that a human being can do, because he can't

1084
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:37.560
defend himself, he couldn't show up to court, his brains

1085
01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:43.159
were bashed in. There was also zero evidence of this.

1086
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:47.439
There were no messages, no contacts, no complaints. There was

1087
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:52.159
just no evidence of this, and the jury knew better.

1088
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:56.880
It didn't work, and she was convicted sentenced to serve

1089
01:09:57.079 --> 01:10:02.520
fifty one years to life in prison. Now, Giovanni, he

1090
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:06.039
was also convicted in his trial, which was separate, and

1091
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:09.880
he was sentenced to two life sentences without the possibility

1092
01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:13.880
of parole. When it is all said and done, the

1093
01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:18.680
facts will scream louder than any false claims. And Cynthia

1094
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:24.239
was a greedy, manipulative teen saying whatever she wanted to

1095
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:28.920
get the result that she wanted. Giovanni in the same breath,

1096
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:32.479
he didn't respect adult authority, he didn't respect her parents,

1097
01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:36.000
and he wanted what he wanted, plain and simple. So

1098
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:38.319
maybe Cynthia was the brains of all of it, but

1099
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:41.479
I can assure you he was the muscle. Neither one

1100
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:47.439
more or less culpable than the other. Their Halloween party, well,

1101
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:50.319
that was supposed to be their fresh start, a fresh

1102
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:52.880
start as a couple to the public, without the parents

1103
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:56.439
there to interfere with their love story. They were going

1104
01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:02.560
to be together forever, well at least for seven days

1105
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:04.960
after the murders, when at that point they would turn

1106
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:09.920
on each other. But don't doubt their love. If anything,

1107
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:13.319
they may be the very couple that proves that love

1108
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:19.000
can survive anything. However, for their sake, let's just hope

1109
01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:23.239
that they factored in the afterlife two, because eternal love

1110
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:27.880
and eternal damnation are a lot to ponder, especially in

1111
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.920
cases like this where one is going to lead right

1112
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:36.079
to the other. There is, though, some glimmer of hope

1113
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:41.199
for these teens. It's not all bad news. Their parents

1114
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:45.359
they wanted their kids to have it better than they did.

1115
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:49.800
They came here to work and to improve and to

1116
01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:54.439
give their kids a better life than they had, and

1117
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.880
their teens will have it better than their parents did.

1118
01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:01.279
Because while this word old may be full of wolves

1119
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:05.399
in sheep's clothing, where those two are headed, there's no

1120
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:07.479
guesswork in identifying who the demons are.