Love Triangle Part 2: Diana Haun

0:06 Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering how is this even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts. Some so evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.

0:51 Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all, heyj You're back for another episode of Unspeakable. How's your week going. It's got to be going good. And I know it's going great because right now you're sitting here and you're listening to me. So I've got the part two for you of this Diana, Mike and Sherry saga that I started, and we're going to finish it up today. But before I start on that, I do want to tell you this. Listen. Patreon has an app you can get this on your phone, so you can watch from your phone, not just from a computer. I had a few people ask me about that, So go download the app and then if you're a member. You can watch me right there on your phone doing whatever it is that you're doing. You don't have to have a desktop. Also, I want to let you know that I will be at the Fall Fest in Denim Springs, Louisiana, so mark your calendar. That's going to be Saturday, October fourth.

1:40 I will have a booth there. I should be on the main strip of booths, and I'll be somewhere in the middle. I'm not exactly sure where, but I've moved from the location that I've normally been in the past, so I'm still there, just in a new location. So if you want to come, say hey, I'll sign shirts, I'll do whatever you want, take a picture. I'll be there, probably sweating my butt off. Get too excited if I look like a hot mess, okay, but come by and see me. I'll be super excited. I'll have some of my new designs on some shirts and bags and stuff out there, So come and say hey. I'll be so happy to see you and take pictures or whatever. All right, So where I left off last episode, it was looking like Mike Dally was quite possibly the worst husband ever to husband in America, quite possibly across the US and the world combined. Okay, this guy was not doing a good job at all. His wife was missing, and he was coddling his mistress at the police station while his wife was still missing. He was holding hands with her, whispering little sweet nothing's in her ear. And she's the other woman. Diana is not his wife, the mother of his children. This is not who that is. It's another woman who's come in to his life and really shaken Sherry's world for sure. And she's also the only true suspect in what could have possibly happened to his wife, Sherry, and the only one who likely held the answer to where the mother of two little.

3:10 Boys might be. So to say it was disgusting is just almost too nice. It was just beyond that. It was almost jaw dropping that someone would behave in this manner. But there was still one very large problem with this theory that Diana could have possibly done something to Sherry. Police couldn't understand how in the hell could this have possibly played out the morning of Sherry's disappearance if Diana was actually involved. Because the women had exchanged words before Sherry knew that Mike was having an affair with Diana. This was not a shop coming straight out of left field. She had addressed it straight on and with a very direct command, very direct stay away from my husband and stay away from my children. She knew who Diana was, and she knew what Diana looked like. So if Diana had abducted and killed Sherry, possibly, how in the hell did she get her in the car? It was seriously a glaring hole in this theory. I mean, we know that she had purchased a wig, but that would not have changed enough that Sherry would not know who she was. I mean, to me, it's like a gazelle not recognizing a tiger as it stalks her. Just because a tiger has mud

4:43 on its face, You're still going to recognize a tiger for a tiger you know, your mortal enemy. And Sherry would have never gotten in a car with Diana, nor willingly submitted to be handcuffed by this woman, No fucking way, it wouldn't have happened. I mean shit. Every witness said that the two women spoke briefly before she was handcuffed in that parking. Lot, so they had this face to face. Interaction, and this part truly stumped investigators, and it made him wonder, maybe Diana wasn't actually the person who had affected that fake arrest in the parking lot. Maybe it wasn't her. So looking further into this affair, investigators were literally stunned when they uncovered just how brazen this affair actually was.

5:40 What if I. Told you that Mike took Diana, not his wife and not his sons, his lover on a vacation while married to his wife. He took her on a vacation all the way to Mexico in March of nineteen ninety six. He was full on married. And still going out of town and living it up with his mistress, photos and all to prove this it was not. Maybe it happened okay, while his wife remained at home with their children. The brazenness of this was wild.

6:23 Because you may not be me. I know I'm not you, but boo boo, Mama would have been on that plane to Mexico and I would have been cleaning house, whatever that may be in your mind. I would have been in Mexico. Get me a margarita on the rocks because Mama's coming. Okay, hain't no fucking way, all right, But this level of betrayal and then throwing this in Sherry's face was just flat out jaw dropping the level of disrespect. I mean, hell, I would have expect I would have expected Diana to be missing at this point. This case would have been much different. If that would have been my husband in Mexico with another woman, I would not have likely been the problem at that point. As far as being missing, I would have been the whole ass problem, because I would have shown up in Mexico and I would have been a whole ass cartel on my own.

7:16 Mad Okay, But whether Sherry knew in that moment of them being together in Mexico, honestly, I'm not one hundred percent certain of that, and maybe that's why it went down the way that it did. You never truly know what people are going through behind closed doors, and this fact in this case is a heartbreakingly clear example of just that. We don't quite know exactly what Sherry knew in that moment and what was playing out in that exact moment, But she knew something was going on, and she knew that there was an affair. So Sherry, a devoted and loving mother, is at home caring for their children while her husband is off having fun in the sun with another woman. Unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable. So investigators were able to secure a warrant of Diana's home to see if they could find anything that may possibly help them in this investigation, to maybe put some of these puzzle pieces together that just weren't seeming to fit. And the search of her home would quite possibly break their original theory wide ass open because during that home search, police found a trove of photos. Look at this stuff, isn't it neat? It made me think of the Ariel when I said a trove. Wouldn't you think my collections complete?

8:47 Okay? But they found a ton of photos in her home and these photos were from all different angles, all different timeframes and base It was like a portfolio of Diana through time. Well, detectives took these photos and they took them to Diana's mother and they said, ma'am, we need you to look at these photos and we need you to tell us which one of these are actually your daughter. So her mother genuinely looked through them. She did, she took her time, she went through these photos, and she handed them back to police and she said, I'm sorry, but none of these are my daughter.

9:31 Here's the kicker. They were all one hundred percent, absolutely, without question, her daughter. But they were old casting photos and modeling photos where Diana had really accentuated using different makeup choices, different styles of makeup. Her hair colors were different, her styles of her hair were different. Even the police did. Not recognize them as Diana in some of them. They believed some of them were her, but didn't know if all of them were. But they were. And so some of those photos really played up her more Asian features, while other ones played up more of her white features. And that's when this aha moment really came to fruition. This this, this is how she was able to get Sherry handcuffed and in that car.

10:30 Diana was basically a chameleon. She knew how to work that makeup and that hair, and she could change her look dramatically. This wasn't like some soap opera, y'all, where you know, they change a wig and nobody in the scene can tell it's a different person when we're all like, uh, like Heller, that is absolutely the same person. What has happened? Who is what are they smoking? No? No, no, this was a master of disguise level stuff that it really did change her look. So in investigators now more than ever felt like, oh, nobody, we have this one right. She handcuffed that Sherry. She was the one who was there. She was able to manipulate her look enough for that brief interaction that she could trick Sherry. So Diana, in their minds, had one hundred percent taken Sherry and police now wanted to know more.

11:24 They knew why she did it. Obviously, she wanted her man okay, and she needed time to try or a way to get Sherry out of the picture. But how did this all pan out? That was now the more pressing issue to really seal up this case. So police needed more than just a gut instinct and a wig to prove this case. So, feeling now energized in their belief of knowing how this happened and what exactly happened, it was now time to really dig into the minutia of everything. The smallest details would make the difference in this case. And I'm gonna tell you something.

12:06 Oftentimes in true crime, when stories are told, people skip over the smallest details and they just kind of give them meat and potatoes of a case. But I'm telling you, the beauty of the police work often fall falls in these very small details that can make the biggest difference in the case. And that is the essence of detective work. And it's that small dig in that really gets me just I just get so proud of good police work when it comes to these types of details. Okay, and this would now include the fact that Mike had a solid work alibi. This was clear he was not there physically at least when Sherry was taken, There's no question about that. But while Diana had given an account, a very detailed account of her entire day that very day in question, they're still had there was just a few more things that needed to be looked at, that needed to really have a microscope put on them. Again, I want you to understand something. There were no cell phones at this time, at least in society. They weren't just everyone and their mama had one. So they were gonna have to look at landlines covering landline calls, possibly because phone records were going to be something that became very very important to this case. So what they were able to see was that Michael and Diana did speak to

13:37 each other numerous times the day of Sherry's abduction. Okay, but real quick, they're having an affair. They're on a full blown affair, having vacations and shit together. To say that they spoke to each other multiple times during the day doesn't mean squat Okay, of course they did. They wanted to talk to each other. But the timing of those conversations were very interesting to the investigators because there were a bunch of them right before the abduction took place, and then there was a whole bunch of them right after it was believed to have concluded, or at least that Sherry was no more okay, So this timing would be of great importance. Nothing was happening in between those two very important timeframes, and one of those calls was believed to have been made basically after the abduction happened, and it was from a local marina that was nearby.

14:38 So it seemed, if you kind of put the pieces together here, that they were possibly discussing the abduction before it happened, kind of hammering out the last minute details. Okay, hey, I'm pulling up, Okay, I see her, yeah, okay, And then well, I guess let's take that back a second. It wouldn't be I'm pulling up because they didn't have cell phones, so I just lied. But I'm gonna go pull up. Okay, I'm gonna go. May Mike was saying, hey, she left the house, maybe that kind of stuff, and then after it was all over with, then they were confirming it by making the phone call from the marina. So while Michael may not have played physically a role in taking Sherry, it was obvious it was obvious that he was involved. But they would have to really narrow this down. I mean, after all, think about it. How would Diana have possibly known that Sherry was at a target?

15:31 How would she know that that's where she went that morning? Her husband knew. That's how Mike knew what she was doing. And Mike would have shared that information with Diana, which would have given her timeframes of when to leave the house of hurry and get to the target. Now that can't be proven. The lines weren't tapped, but. It just makes sense. You know. The saying is if you hear hooks, don't look for zebras, look for horses, and ninety nine percent of the time you'll be right. And I believe in that theory. Okay. Also, more follow up interviews with witnesses that day only backed up this knowledge. Because just about ninety minutes after Mike reported Sherry missing to the police, so we're only talking an hour and a half after Sherry was reported missing, Mike was calling friends. If you remember I told you that the police had said call her friends, call anybody her family and see if maybe they've seen her.

16:27 Well, he did that. He was calling them, but he told one of those friends, and this is a quote, he told one of them that Sherry had been snatched. So how would he have possibly known just minutes an hour and a half after she never came home or picked up the kids, How or why would he ever believe that she had been snatched other than the fact that she was missing, and by the way, her van had not yet been located, there's no way he could have known that she actually was snatched in the totality of things to that point. A further look into his actions over the month that Sherry was missing, he also had some really important things that he took care of aside from looking for Sherry. Now, what were those really important things? Well, most notably was just five days after Sherry was missing and still had not been located, Mike took the time to take his jet skis to a repair shop in San Juan Capistrano.

17:36 His jet skis. Not wanting to be alone, I guess during this jet ski repair while his wife is missing, the mother of his children is missing, not wanting to be alone. During all of this time, he took Diana with him for that very important Errand yes, he and his lover took the jet skis to be repaired together. So I mean, were you and your love are gonna jump on jet skis and go search waterways for her? I mean? Is that? I mean, what could you possibly say that would make that make sense? Because I will tell you as a devoted spouse, which he was not, But as a devoted spouse, I wouldn't sleep for five days. I would be covered in dirt and I would climb every mountain.

18:25 I would dive every waterway, I would dig every dumpster. I would look for my spouse, and you wouldn't stop me. I'd probably look insane. Obviously he's a cheater, but even being a bad spouse, you would still be looking for her because you need her to watch your kids at minimum. He sounds like that kind of guy. But no, he's getting his jet skis taken care of, so that was beyond odd. He was also willing to give away some of Sherry's belongings well before her remains were ever recovered. What the hell are you doing, Mike, or are you just trying to erase the fact that maybe she was here?

19:12 Because my own mother in law she died And this The reason I bring this up is not because this story is about me, but I think we all look through our own lens at situations that happen. We all have our own things that we bring to the table, and what do we think we would do in this situation. I can tell you this my own mother in law. She died roughly eight years ago. Her closet still remains exactly how she left it, her spouse unable still to this day to see it change. But the question now becomes, how can he grieve someone that may still return? Why would you grieve? It's not time to grieve. Now is the time for hope, Now is the time for This is an ideal, but we're gonna get her and we're gonna figure out where she is grief should be fleeting in this moment. Yes, you're sad, you're worried, but grief.

20:06 We're not there yet. We don't know where Sherry is. And I'm gonna tell you why he was doing that. It's because we all know this. It's because he did know. He knew Sherry. Wasn't coming back, and he didn't want to hang on to her stuff. He was moving on. It's sad, sad. Sads said that that. Could even be when two little boys I know were wanting their mama, and all the while, while these two kids don't know what to do and their lives have been upended. The next bit of information literally just made me when I was researching that just my head, I just my head hung and I almost just shook it in disgusted.

20:51 I didn't even know what to do with this. An additional search of Mike and Sherry's home, okay, the home that just days prior they were sharing together their marital home, police found a pillow on their bed that even a morally corrupt man would recognize as unconscionable. While Sherry was still alive living in her. Home, Mike had a body pillow with Diana's face on it in their bed. He slept with it at night in front of Sherry. Sherry saw it, she knew it was there, but he refused to get rid of it, basically rubbing it in her face all the while while they slept. He may be in bed with his wife, but he was cuddling the pillow of his mistress. And basically what he was saying is, there's three people in this bed with us.

22:05 There's three of us. Sherry could not escape Diana Hahn in more ways than one. Obviously, Mike wanted out of this marriage. I think we can all figure that out at this point. But Sherry, this isn't about Mike. This is about Sherry. Sherry wanted her family. She was letting things slide that she normally would have never tolerated. She was feisty, she was a woman willing to fight for what she believed in and what she wanted. But she had been broken down at this point.

22:46 She had been an emotionally battered woman by this point. And I hope that we can all see that there's no question about this. What that woman was dealing with behind closed doors is. I'll tell you this. People talk about physical abuse like that's the worst thing that can happen to somebody. Talk to someone who's been emotionally abused by someone before, and usually by someone that they deeply love. Talk to a survivor of emotional abuse, and you'll see that that can be just as devastating. It can do something to the psyche. It can change a person from who they used to be and who they are really into someone that you just can't understand what they're doing. It's because you don't know all the details.

23:37 You don't know what's happening behind closed doors. Scherry was broken down by this point. Sherry wasn't weak, y'all. She was not a weak woman. She was being emotionally abused. And everyone has a weakness in them when it comes to being in love. And damn it, she had every right to be in love with her husband. They had the same last name, that was her husband, and there's no shame in that. It's like, we live in a world where victims of this nature are almost looked down upon for not just turning a cold shoulder and kicking out their spouse. And oh she should have kicked him to the curb. No, no, I'm going to side with Sherry right now as a woman's woman. I am siding with Sherry because that was her motherfucking husband, not Diana's.

24:36 She made a vow forever to that man, and she wasn't giving up for better or for worse, through good and through bad, until death do them part. And she took her vows seriously. She's not weak, she's not a sorry woman. She's a woman of her word. That's what she is. That is what Sherrie Dally, a woman I have never met a day in my life, was and continues to be a woman of her word. And that makes this all the more upsetting because she was an innocent in this. I'm not saying they didn't bicker and they didn't have problems in their marriage, but she was an innocent in this on the side of being the wife while the husband was having an affair. And we all should recognize that.

25:26 And if you don't, I'm telling you there's something wrong. You can be tough, there's a time to be tough, but this wasn't that time for Sherry. She was trying to do what she could do to save her marriage that she was devoted to. She was a faithful woman to a man who couldn't care less about their family. She was fighting for something that quite honestly, was not worth her heart, but she was blinded by love, and that love was for her own family. You can't down her for that. And a painful yet completely pitiful example of this, And I wanted to give you this example so you can understand where Sherry was. She once washed and waxed Michael's car in their driveway. That woman went out there and detailed that car for her husband while he was at Diana Hawn's house. And she knew it, but she went out there and she spent her time in that sun washing and waxing that car in an attempt to show her love and her undying devotion to her husband. But he just didn't care. It made no difference to him. But this is also where there could have been more possible motive for her her murder, because

27:02 the fact that Mike didn't care meant he wanted a divorce. He wanted that divorce, no doubt. So I quickly googled the average cost of a divorce. Okay, and I know if you've been through a divorce, you can be like, oh, hell, it costs me more than that or maybe less, but the average cost of a divorce today in the US is fifteen to twenty thousand dollars, not including alimony for being a cheating spouse, amongst other property settlements and things of that nature. And Mike and Diana knew this, okay, they wouldn't be able to refute the fact that they were having an affair as open as they were having, this was going to cost a lot of money, and looking into the finances of the home, you'll likely guess this, But do you know what detectives also uncovered while they're searching for Sherry. Well, that answer is the Age Old Thing Life insurance. A policy for Sherry was found for fifty thousand dollars. And that's a pretty good motive to jumpstart a new life with your mistress is to start off with fifty grand. So basically, if Sherry was gone number one, he could avoid a costly divorce. Number two, he wouldn't have to pay alimony payments because you can't pay a dead person, and he wouldn't have to deal with a custody battle either. The kids go to him,

28:35 he's their parent, and then the icing on the cake would be fifty grand in a bonus off of her life insurance policy, and to boot, Michael was the beneficiary of Sherry's retirement account as well. So sometimes it's not going to be what you didn't. Do in a crime, but what you did do that's gonna make you look. Really, really guilty here. And this is what I mean. Maybe Mike didn't kill Sherry. He wasn't there, he didn't do that. But just days after her body was recovered, he called the insurance company to not only get a payout, but he also called Sherry's retirement company holder the holdings of her funds, and he wanted to go ahead and collect all that money as well. I mean, just days after she was found in very bad condition. He was grieving, I guess. And also jet skiing makes total sense. I want a jet ski, I want the money, and I'm grieving. Sure, some additional oddities that were occurring during the marriage were also now coming to light, things that friends and family didn't know about because share Carry wasn't sharing everything with everyone. I mean, for real, things happen in your life, they're bad. You

30:06 don't always run to your mom and tell her every single detail of things that go bad. In a way, if we love our parent, maybe it's your daddy. I don't know, but you love a parent, you don't want them to hurt for you. You protect your parents, you don't. You don't necessarily share every detail. For example, Mike had even moved out for a period of time during their marriage. He had gotten an apartment with a friend at work. His name was Alex, and Mike lived with Alex for a few months, like he was not at home, and then he and Sherry reconciled their differences or whatever and worked out some of the problems and he ended up moving back home.

30:47 Serry knew about. Alex, okay, he and Mike had been friends for a while at work, and although they didn't hang out with him as a couple or anything, serry knew who Alex was. I mean, Alex called the house quite all often, and he and Mike would chat like buddies do. But what would later be revealed. Was that Alex wasn't actually a coworker of Mike's. That was a lie. He wasn't a coworker of Mike's. But Alex also wasn't even a real person. Yeah, Alex was fake.

31:28 So you're like, well, then who's calling the house and saying, they're Alex, y'all. It was none other than a cover name for Diana. Yes, yes, she had been calling the house, calling the home of her married boyfriend, and she was altering her voice, pretending to be a guy. And Mike hadn't moved out to. Live with Alex while he was married. He had moved out to live with Diana all of those months. You would not believe this if it weren't proven to be true. It's that devious, it's that wild.

32:17 So when Sherry was at first missing Mike and Diana, they didn't just go ooh, this is bad, this looks bad. We should, you know, kind of separate our ways. No, no, no, no, no, of course not. They actually decided to play house with Sherry's children, Devin, who was eight at the time, and Max who was six, just little boys. They were in need of a support system. Obviously, their mother has just up and disappeared, and Diana was more than happy to swoop in and become mom, and Mike was more than happy to let her, this can be your mom now, Like we're just changing out legos and putting a different lego when it's spot just a different color, you know, just a different size, But what's it matter. It's disgusting how they were operating. And the kids at that time, just six and eight, they were too young to fully understand the gravity of the situation. You know, kids don't always understand long term. I even taught about this in nine to one one that kids sometimes are Often when young kids call nine one one, they can be looking at something horrendous, but because they don't look at the long term outcome that they'll the person they're looking at might be dead forever.

33:38 You know, they're just hurt right now. It's kind of how kids look at it, and so they don't understand the full situation. So the kids didn't necessarily think mom was never coming back home, and so they were happy to have a female maternal figure in their lives to lean on. But unfortunately for them, and what they didn't know was that the prime suspect in their own mama's disappearance was the very person acting as caregiver for them, nurturing them, loving them all the while really believed to be the person that might be causing the pain in the first place for these children. But for now, where I sit telling you the story, you know, Diana Hahn was arrested.

34:24 She had to be. She was arrested, and she's now sitting in jail awaiting the trial for the murder of their mother. And this time that she is behind bars, was it spent writing down the details for her defense. Was it spent trying to work out anything that could prove her innocence and that she had nothing to do with this and distancing herself from this man because she did not want to be held in any way responsible for this man's wife's death. Although she's behind bars fur already, Is that what was happening? No, no, no, no, this time she would spend writing letters back and forth with Michael, writing those letters, both of them spewing their undying love for one another. Seventy one letters, to be exact. These were the days before JP, which is the system to communicate with inmates or people who are behind bars. No, these were hand written letters, seventy one of them. And so sick is the contents of these letters, so mind blowingly just out of pocket what they are saying. In one letter, he wrote, direct quote, y'all, direct quote. Your man and cubs are awaiting you at home. Well, sorry to anybody listening. Actually sorry, not sorry, but those

35:57 would never be her cubs. Those were Sherry's cubs, and Mama Bear died knowing that she was fighting not only for her marriage, but her own life and for theirs as well. She was fighting to be their mama because she was their mama. And this bastard is now writing letters to his lover saying, your cubs and your man are waiting for you at home. But I can't even understand what they were both thinking writing that, considering the gravity of the situation at hand, And this sparked almost a rage. You can probably tell it sparked a rage in me when I read it. How dare he say this about his wife's children. Those are her babies, not somebody else's, and definitely not Diana Hauns. So they continued their written love affair, and they spoke of all that they were going to do whenever she got out, including having more of his children. She was going to have children for him, all the while Sherry was dead and she was never going to see her babies again, while these two numb nuts are writing their love story to one another through the bars. For six months, Mike continued to raise the boys without Sherry because she's gone forever.

37:32 And all the while, he continued to write Diana behind bars for six months, a freeman with no wife to worry with his mistress in jail and he was free. He even went and attended the. Memorial service for his wife, but he was still writing his mistress. And he was a free man to do whatever he wanted until he wasn't. So police rushed the home on a November morning and they pulled his ass straight from his bed, placed handcuffs on him, and they took him to jail two And now he was gonna have to just write letters to her from behind his own damn bars, because he was also charged with the murder of his wife, Sherry. And once both of these two were taken into custody, the kids were then relocated to Mike's parents' home for the time being. And I'll just be honest, that hurt my heart too, not that these people had anything to do with this, but now Sherry's parents not only lost their daughter, but now they've lost seeing the children.

38:48 And you know, I'm just from as a child of divorce. You know for a fact that those parents, Mike's parents are telling those kids, Oh your daddy didn't do this, somebody you know, blah blah blahlah blah blah blah, and feeding that into them in essence taking away from their mother. Of course, that's my opinion, but I just know human nature. So if you ever wondered how deep do cases like this affect so many people? How deep does it actually go? Do you remember Debbie English? She was the neighbor of Sherry and Sherry's friend. They both had the daycare Sinners or they took care of children at their homes. Sherry's friend, Debbie English, lived on the same street, and she was so upset by everything that was happening that she and her husband decided to literally up and move. Just looking at the house where Sherry and Mike lived at one time was just too much.

39:48 For both of them. They loved her dearly and they had to move away to escape the shadow of everything to do with that home. And they had lived there much longer than Sherry did, and they had to physically move away to escape the heavy burden of what they felt as a result of Sherry's death. All Debbie could do was think about Sherry and the time that Sherry had come into her own living room and sobbed to her. Just on a Christmas Day, Sherry came to her home and cried to her. On Christmas Day a day of joy, a day of celebrating your savior, a day of your kids opening presents, and things are just supposed to be right on Christmas Day.

40:32 We can all agree that's supposed to be a day that we just let it go and let joy infiltrate our homes. But not Sherry, because you know what her husband did that Christmas I'm referencing. He woke up, took their two boys and went and spent Christmas with Diana Hawn, leaving Sherry alone in her home without her baby boys. I cannot fathom it. The abuse that that poor woman endured was all just coming back to Debbie English and it hindsight was twenty twenty. She had talked Sherry down, she had tried to make sense of it. It's gonna be okay, And the reality now is it was not okay.

41:19 It wasn't okay then, it was never gonna be okay now. But she didn't realize in the moment how bad this really was, or she would have done more. But what do you do. It's not your house. You know, you're a friend. So now that both of these lovers were behind bars and the trials were ramping up, some of the most unlikely people started coming forward to talk to the police. Okay, before I tell you who they were, I have to even tell you this little tidbit. When Diana was arrested, police went through her purse, you know, looking for receipts and things. There was a picture in Diana's wallet and you opened it up, and you know what that picture was. It was a picture of her and Mike and Sherry's two boys, a picture they went and had taken on that very Christmas day that he left his wife to go be with his mistress. That was their family photo in her wallet. That's how far gone these people were with the reality of what was.

42:28 They weren't a family, but they had pictures made together. It's just sick. So who are these people that came forward to talk to the police after Mike was put behind bars? This should tell you something, Okay, Their societal roles were absolutely non traditional in nature. However, to me, that in and of itself made their claims even more impressive. And I don't mean non traditional, as in, these people that came forward were circus members or influencers or at anything like that. This would quite literally be the opposite. These people were from the darker, more sketchy side of town, that type of non traditional.

43:14 Yet they seem to know a whole lot about Mike Dally. They knew him very well. These people were prostitutes and dope dealers. Yeah, and so I want you to know I said what I said. That's who they were. And these are people just by nature of their I'll say business, okay, but what they do with their lives. These are the people by their very nature that would normally avoid the police, like the friggin plague. Yet they had things to say that were very credible and just unable to be overlooked. Okay, a prostitute contacted the police, which is wild off the top, but anyway, want you to know this. She said that she knew Mike. She knew him very well, Okay, really well, based on her job. And one day or one night rather, I guess I should say. This prostitute told the story that Mike had picked her up and taken her to a spot where she had provided services to him as well as they did cocaine together, which he had provided by the way he brought the coke.

44:30 So now we've taken a. Completely hard left turn from everything I've said in this story to this point. Drugs have not been mentioned. But now here we go with a little bit of cocaine. All right, But that's not even the wildest part of the story that I'm about to tell you. It's where they were having sex, he and this prostitute and doing coke. That really made the eyebrows raise of the police because that prostitute gave the exact location of this interaction. They're like, all right, well, if you did this, where was it? And the prostitute was able to tell him it was right here, and would you believe that where it took place was the exact location, the exact location where the literal ravine ran where Sherrie's body had been found dumped.

45:27 And this was. All before her body had even been found. So when Sherry said that another woman could have her husband over her dead body, Mike made that happen because it is not coincidence that he drove to that location literally over the dead body of where his wife was laying, and that he was having sex and doing dope, coke whatever with a prostitute the exact place. Coincidences and crime simply do not exist. And he got off on this, I promise you he got off on knowing that.

46:11 He did do this over her dead body. She was down in that ravine, decomposing, still missing at the date that this took place, while he was screwing a hooker and doing coke off his dash. Let that sink in for a minute. This is evil, This is sick, and to say that he wasn't involved is simply ludicrous to entertain at this point if you were even having a shred of doubt at this. Point that he was involved. Drug dealers also came forward and they spoke on their dealings with him, and they even complained to say that he had been a horrible man. This wasn't new.

46:51 These dope dealers had been doing selling dope to him forever. This wasn't new. Sherry just didn't know it was being done right underneath her nose. He hid in plane sight like mister Hyde. And just how long had Sherry's life possibly been in danger? Do you wonder that was this a spur of the moment thing, or how did this come to be Well, that was gonna be up for debate. Really, had the two concocted this plan in days or had it taken longer? Well, another coworker, a real one at this point, another coworker from the deli, would reveal something to police so sinister that they just it's like it came out of a fake story out of a book.

47:46 Mike had been cheating with another coworker before Diana became his prime and that woman came forward to police after Sherry's body was found, and what she had to say again was something that could not be ignored. Now. This coworker's name was Sally, and she worked at the grocery store with them, and she had begun dating Mike whenever he came forward with a proposal for her. And this was not down on one knee with a. Ring proposal either. No, this was a proposal for her to kill his wife.

48:26 This is before he ever was even dating Diana. She was baffled by this request and couldn't even believe that he was being for real when he said it. However, he went into great thought out detail on how he would want this mistress, Sally, to kill his wife he laid it out for her. And get this, He told Sally that he wanted Sherry tortured and he wanted her thrown off a cliff. Literally everything that Diana was believed to have actually done. He wanted Sherry to disappear. That was a quote, and another quote he was that there were times that he talked about stabbing her with a knife, but not only just stabbing her, he wanted to twist the knife to cause her even more pain. And while I'm not easing up on Diana at all at all, it does open up some thoughts here of manipulation and control that Mike was trying to exercise over this woman as well. Sally also would testify to the fact that Mike physically abused her during their dating. She said that Michael had choked her on two separate occasions and then

49:56 tried to coerce her into giving her money. To him through violence. So it's not so far fetched. You start thinking about what happened to Sherry, you start thinking about that life insurance policy. This is not out of left field. These people have details, prostitutes, drug dealers, another cheating partner, and they're all kind of saying the same thing that he's capable of all of this, all right, And this next statement that I'm going to say, I want you to know this is my opinion, my opinion only. I have no direct knowledge of this, but I will stand ten toes down chest out when I say it to you. If this man would choke a mistress, I don't find him to be much different than every other physical abuser on the planet. If you will choke a mistress, you will choke your wife. And I believe it's my opinion, but I believe with everything I have that Sherry endured more than just emotional abuse.

50:55 It's too. In your face, it's too out there, and he is no fucking unicorn. Okay. That is the motive of many. Abuser is you get submission through emotional abuse and through physical abuse. It's what they do. So if this woman testifies that she was choked, then I have no other opinion than the fact that this was probably done to someone else, especially considering he said he wanted the knife shoved in her and twisted for more pain. Tell me that person wouldn't choke, slap, punch, or throw down somebody. It's just the way it is. Do research on domestic violence. If you want to come at me, before you come at me, because I'm gonna come with receipts on statistics, you know how I am.

51:42 Okay. Now, he had a much longer history with Sherry than he did this mistress, and so to me, the anger was very obvious. And the fact that Sherry's dead, let's not forget that part, plays into my opinion in that realm. So had he been prepping multiple women to possibly do the dirty work for him, that kind of became just him respective that kind of became a thought there. And now Diana, maybe she. Was the numb nut that actually took the bait and was mean enough to actually do it. So I don't think it was just manipulation either of this one, this one co worker, this other coworker, because another coworker. They must have been fricking tight at this damn DELI. I mean, they talked about stuff that I don't talk about with my coworkers. But another one came forward and said that she had information that, based on Diana's own claims, kind of seemed to fit the bill of what was going on here. Because do you remember in part one, whenever Diana was real meek and mild and she was talking to the police and she could never do this, Okay, you remember that. Well, in the same breath, she had told a coworker that shortly after she vacationed in Mexico with Mike, that she was wanting to have a ritual done where she would sacrifice a human for her man.

53:18 They had a conversation about it, and the kicker behind the whole conversation was that she told this coworker that Mike would be the one to get to pick the victim. That was the fun and the sacrifice. That's what made it so so vicious and so connecting between the two of them, as she would do the killing, but Mike would pick would pick the victim. And then what if I told you that this was going to be kind of a gift for Mike, Is what she told this coworker. It was going to be a gift. And then add to that, Sherry was murdered right near Mike's own birthday.

54:00 Coincidences don't happen in crime like this. Maybe Mike brought it up, but Diana ultimately agreed to do it and took all the actions necessary to complete the murder. She wanted to do it. It drives me crazy when people come up she with manipulated it. No, no, no, you're not gonna manipulate me into going to stabbing another woman. Not gonna do it. You're not gonna do that. And I hope that people listening right now you're not gonna be manipulated into that either. Also, on top of this, do not find it coincidence that Mike had never begun the formal divorce process. He wanted out of this marriage so bad, but he never started the divorce. And to me, that was that was part of the plan, because if Sherry thought it was over, if Sherry really thought I'm not gonna win this, Cherry was smart. There is no way in hell she would have left Mike as the beneficiary of her life insurance policy. Everything that I know to date about Sherry Dally, that wasn't gonna happen.

55:04 Okay. She would have probably, in. My humble opinion, have listed someone more like her own mother, someone that she could create a trust for her children and she would know that those children could benefit from that. But Mike was slick, okay, and he needed to give her hope so that that would never happen. That's why the divorce proceedings were never begun. It would mess up the totality of the plan. So Diana Hawn would stand trial first, and her defense was one for the books, one for the books, while she played this. Tiny, scared woman. You know she's so dainty.

55:46 Of course, you know she would have to play really hard into that. And I couldn't kill anyone. Ever, Look how real I am? Right. She really honed in on that that she was too tiny, too frail, too meet have done to have done this, and that was something that she could never do either, because she said she didn't believe in killing. Well, okay, we welcome to the club. You're not telling us any good people anything else, right, But she didn't believe. She didn't believe in killing. And do you need proof, even more proof than just her word? Well, guys, she then said, I could never kill because I'm a vegetarian.

56:28 That's right. She didn't need animals, And that proved right there. She could never even kill a person because she didn't kill animals. Like. I laughed at that. I found that funny because I'm like, look here, heifer, I mean, I will slay a steak for the record me personally, I will dip that dead ass cow in some sweet baby rays that sauce will drip down my face as I to the fat. But I too won't kill someone. Like being a vegetarian doesn't seem like the strongest defense that I've ever heard of my entire life. But I guess when you got nothing, that's what you can say something. So she's a vegetarian who couldn't have killed a person, That's what we're going with. And then she also laid out for the jury that Michael had exploited her devotion and her love for him, and he knew he had her wrapped around her finger, and thus she maintained that she was manipulated into committing this murder for him. Well, those are rather contradictory arguments. If you ask me so, in one breath, you could never kill someone you're a vegetarian.

57:31 But on the flippan, Mike manipulated me and he abused my love for him. Okay, which one is it? Figure it out, lady. I mean, those are really contradictory arguments, and to me they sound like the plea of a desperate woman trying to just say anything. She had paid for the disguise with a check. She rented the vehicle, and the car was returned with blood in it. So I mean, I'm no Vegas odds expert, but I know good odds when I hear them. All Right, she was sunk. There's no way that you could you could defend this, And the prosecution even scoffed at her claims like you and I are are right now. They laid out the case very matter of fact for the courtroom.

58:13 The prosecution did. Diana and Mike made a plan together to kill Sherry. Diana bought the disguise, she bought the handcuffs ahead of time, She changed her look. She tricked Sherry into believing that she was under arrest because Sherry was not a bad woman and she was gonna submit to. Authority if she thought that it was real. Sherry then figured out that Diana was not a real cop, that she was Diana, and that she had now been cuffed behind her back during this drive. The prosecution also laid out how they believed that Diana that Sherry was somehow able to move her cuffs under her feet and get her hands in front of her, and then Sherry fought for her life in that car where Diana was forced to pull over because she couldn't drive while the fight was going on.

59:04 And then she. Beat Sherrie about the head with some sort of solid object, just mercilessly beat her because she was handcuffed and couldn't defend herself, and then stabbed her at least five times in the chest. Well. Unable to fight at that. Point because she was bleeding profusely, Sherry fell back in the seat and she slumped forward where the blood poured out on that floorboard as she died. All the while she was being driven to that ravine. And remember how that rear view mirror had been ripped off. That's because this fight was brutal, it was vicious, and it was going wild in that vehicle as they fought. Once Diana arrived at the scene, she then removed Sherry, drug her from the car, and then rolled her into that deep, deep ravine that she would not be able to be seen from the roadway. Then, after she had done that, Diana placed the murder weapon that she had used to beat Sherry in the trunk, which they were able to show or prove by blood evidence recovered from the trunk.

1:00:12 She then drove to a nearby marina and that's where she changed clothes. And what she didn't know while this was happening was that back at the ravine site, another witness saw her. They saw her parked. At the very ravine in that teal car, and so they would come forward and they would also testify to the fact that they saw the teal. Car at the very ravine. But after she changed clothes and got all the blood off of her, she then went to that payphone at the marina and she called Michael to let him know it's done. Sherry's dead. Afterwards, she went to a nearby car wash where she tried to clean the blood up, but it was not happening. There was way too much blood.

1:00:57 And by the way, a person came forward. This was a person that owned a local dry cleaner, and this person said that he or she I don't remember which it was, but they received an anonymous phone call the day that Sherry was killed, and it was someone asking how can I remove blood from a car seat. I'm needing help doing that, So you put this together if you need to. And then she went and she returned that car with the blood still in it, because you can't get that much blood out of a vehicle. When the defense and the prosecution finally rested, it was on September twenty sixth, nineteen ninety seven that Diana Hahn was found guilty of conspiracy, kidnapping, and murder, and then she was ultimately sentenced to life in prison without parole. But up next would be Mike's trial, and this is exactly what you probably would expect from the jump. His attorney got out in front of Mike's behavior and said, look, we know he's a horrible man. We know that he smoked cocaine, we know that he was sleeping with prostitutes, we know that he's a serial cheater. This is absolutely undeniable.

1:02:14 But then they put that age old adage in there that being a horrible man and a horrible husband doesn't make you a murderer. So it's like, okay to say it doesn't. But he then also maintained his full innocence with anything to do with Sherry's murder, and that's where he had a big problem. He wasn't work when his wife disappeared. No doubt, there was no physical evidence anywhere that linked him directly to her murder, and there was no DNA found that was at the scene that could link him to it. So his opinion, and that his attorney argued, is that this should completely and totally absolve him from anything to do with this murder. And so at this point, I'm trying to just evoke that I hope it was worth it to Diana, because that's when Mike completely turned on her. He said, Look, this is a quote too. I can't help it that both women wanted me. It was all Diana, though she was obsessed with me. First of all, booboo, you need to look in the mirror because you ain't all that. And to say I can't help it they both wanted me is the most egotistical thing I've ever heard in my entire existence.

1:03:39 But a direct quote from his attorney was this quote. This plan was designed, conceived, and carried out by this psycho, crazed, whacked out, which Diana hawn. He turned on her with a quickness. He also said that Sherry and Mike were in the midst of reconciling when Diana went rogue. She did it on her own. Mike was going to get back with his wife. He loved her, but in the same breath. Another claim was made. His attorney then argued, you also need to understand that Mike wasn't worried at all about his divorce because he didn't think that it would matter everything that it would cost him to be with his lover because Diana was wealthy.

1:04:34 Turns out, back in high school, Diana had been severely injured when a basketball backboard fell on her head. Too bad. It didn't do the job. Then you know what I'm saying. But it didn't kill her. But it did put Diana Hahn in a coma for three months, and so as a result, she won a lawsuit. She was granted an annuity settlement that was worth a million dollars, and so Diana was receiving a monthly payment of one thousand and seventy seven dollars until she turned sixty five years old. And so their argument was that she's rich, and so Mike wasn't worried about it. Hey, I don't know what your financial situation is, but I think Mike and I differ in what we consider wealthy, because one thousand dollars.

1:05:22 A month ain't wealthy. But that was their argument. So his trial would last two months and the jury would ultimately find him guilty of first degree murder, and in his case, he was eligible for the death penalty. He even, if you want to know the narcissism, he even took the stand in the penalty phase of his trial. But he didn't do himself any favors whatsoever. He came across extremely narcissistic, and he continued to take zero responsibility for what had happened. To his wife. The ego with this guy is wild, y'all. But what ended up happening was. The jurors were deadlocked on whether to give him execution or not, and thus he avoided the death penalty, but he did receive life in prison. So today, both Diana Hahn and Mike Dally are now in their sixties and they are still sitting behind bars. But I want to give you one more bit of information here. He still blames Diana for everything from behind bars. And it's been now more than twenty years, you know, since she's Sherry was killed. And Diana will speak on this and she says, look, I am innocent. I didn't do this, and she cites the Bible. The witch now cites the Bible as to why she says she didn't do it, and she says, listen,

1:06:53 even the Bible says thou shalt not kill. I didn't do it. And now her claims have evolved. And now she says, okay, yes, okay, Sherry was a really bad person. Mike told me all of this, and she was bad to him, she was bad to the kids. And she says, yes, I. Did rent the car and the props, but it was for a practical joke that we were going to play on her, you know, because they played like that. Apparently she has no clue who actually did it, and she now claims that an unnamed co conspirator took the rental car that she rented from the front of her house, killed Sherry with it or in it, then brought it back and parked it there to set her up. And when she went out to the car, she saw all the blood. So she tried to go clean it because she didn't want to be framed, but she just she couldn't clean it up. She had no idea what it was back then. She just thought it was a stain like maybe the window leaked or something. I don't know, And she tried to clean it up, and then she returned the car. But I'm just going to leave you with this. She never mentioned any of this to the police.

1:08:02 She never mentioned that she was a victim of Mike to the police, and so, as we all know, that is complete and total horseshit, A big steaming pile of maggot infested horseshit. If you'd like to believe it, go for it. But as for both of these people, I'm just gonna say good riddance. Society is better for you both not being in it, and I'm glad that you are both locked up. None of us will miss you. You left two little boys without parents, specifically a loving mother who you dumped in a ditch. Nobody wants to listen to any more of your claims or your bs that you were spewing about what you did to Sherry Dally.

1:08:45 And while in their minds. They were both star crossed lovers, the reality was more like they were cross examined. That's about as crossed as these lovers would ever get. Okay, the Romeo and Juliet's story that they thought that they were in you know, they thought that they were soulmates, but the reality is that the cops would call that accomplices. They had it all twisted, they had. It all wrong. And when it was all said and done, these two may have promised each other forever, but it was the judge who made sure of it.