Aug. 26, 2025

SERIAL MURDERER: Israel Keyes Part 3

SERIAL MURDERER: Israel Keyes Part 3
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Season 7

In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ continues her account of the serial killer Israel Keyes as his crimes increase and more victims of his rage become apparent.

Chapters
05:42  The Confession of a Killer
22:08  A Neighborhood's Observations
56:45  The Abduction Begins
1:08:52 The Tragic Fate of Bill and Lorraine


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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's

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kJ You're back for another episode of Unspeakable, and we

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are back into this series on Israel Keys. I've had

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a lot of people call me, text me and message me, say,

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and WHOA, I didn't know so much happened in these cases,

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and I know this case, I said, right, It's all

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about I guess, digging in and seeing what all the

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truth is and what you can find. And so I'm

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going to continue to do my best in that regard. Now,

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what happened to Samantha Koenig was now painfully out in

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the open. Now everybody knew that she would not be

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returning home. Not only that, but only pieces of her

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physical body would be returned for proper burial. That in

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and of itself was just heartbreaking for people that were

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invested in hoping that she would eventually come home. And

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the family handled this with such grace, yet on the inside,

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you know, there had to be a burning of anger

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down deep. We're all human, and if they admitted that,

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I would totally understand, and if they don't, that's fine too.

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But the man who did this confessed with such an

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air of nonchalantness and actually yawned throughout the confession. If

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you go watch these videos, it's incredible, and I have

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put those on Patreon for you. By the time that

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you listen to this, it'll be there, so you can

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go take a look at their long but you could

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you could look at some snippets of them and see

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what I'm talking about. Something that I wanted to address

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real quick in that regard to is that his facade

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of flatness was actually quite interesting when you do watch him.

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So I took note of how many times or how

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often he yawned while he was giving these confessions, and

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I realized it hit me like an aha moment. I

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realized that this yawning wasn't out of boredom. No, don't.

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Don't for a second think that this was actually a

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release of tension. And I picked up on that thought

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because my own brother does this. Okay, when he is stressed,

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he yawns, and he yawns a lot. He'll be acting

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completely good on the outside, completely calm, but you can

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tell when he is extremely stressed because the yawning starts.

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And I saw this in Israel, and once I identified it,

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it almost gave me some sort of like angry joy

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in a way. Yeah, buddy, I hope you are stressed.

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Keep on yawning, no problem. And once I addressed it

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and I figured that out, it tickled me. I hope

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he was freaking out on the inside. And the way

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it works because there is actually science to it too.

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If you want to know, is that the yawn is

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the body's attempt to regulate its nervous system. Did you

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know that? Because I didn't. I did not know that,

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but I know because I looked it up. I was

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curious if there was a correlation there of why he

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was doing it. But a yawn causes you to take

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in more oxygen on that when you breathe in and

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then it potentially cools your brain. So when stressed, your

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body will start entering this state of hyper arousal, which

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will lead to rapid, more shallow breathing because you're stressed out,

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and yawning can help reset your breathing pattern and it

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naturally promotes a sense of calm. So while I was

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ert at his yawning in the beginning, after a while

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I was loving it. Bight up bap bup ba. I'm

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loving it. So see if you pick up on that

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whenever you go watch these videos. So as you now know,

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the post mortem photo that he took of Samantha was

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to serve as a proof of life photo to convince

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everyone that she was unharmed Samantha, though she was long

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gone at this point. But the hope, the hope he

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knew that her family was clinging to, was what he

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was arming himself with. As long as that family had hope,

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he would toy with them and he would try to

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get some money out of them. He had already stolen

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their most precious gift. He had already sexually abused her

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and tried to steal her dignity, and now he would

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make them pay, literally by the money demand in that

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ransom note, and more interviews would uncover a deeply sick

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and twisted individual. You may wonder was Israel ever worried

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about getting caught. Well, no, of course he wasn't. Here.

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I want you to listen to him explain it all

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by himself in his own words.

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So I knew I was taking a risk, but I

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still wasn't worried about it after it was all done,

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because because partly because it's anchored. Dambe, I don't know

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what about anchors. I just I had been listening to

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the police scanner a lot recently and just kind of

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felt like by the time anybody figured out what had

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actually happened the ky the trail would already be cold,

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and even if they had pictures in my truck, they

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wouldn't know whose truck it was. They wouldn't have tire tracks,

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they wouldn't have forensic evidence, they wouldn't have shoe prints,

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they wouldn't have certainly wouldn't have fingerprints or DNA or anything.

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So I didn't worry about it. Like I say, I

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knew there were a lot of those trucks and anchorage.

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So he certainly felt that he was smarter than the police.

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He never imagined that they were going to pick up

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on his patterns of movement weeks later, and he figured

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by the time that if they did pick up on you,

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that his trail would be cold. He was long gone.

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He was nowhere near where this crime or crimes would

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have taken place. He went to Washington, California, Wyoming, Texas.

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I mean, he went all over the US. He was everywhere,

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and based on all of this, he then advised them

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that he had been living two different lives for fourteen years.

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And this is where I left off last episode. Because

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it now seemed like there may be more victims. Israel

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was willing to keep talking. He said he could give

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all the quote unquote gory details, but they had to

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make a promise to him first. Listen to this. He

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wanted to get the death penalty and he wanted to

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get an actual execution date before he would give up

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that information. Well, that obviously couldn't happen. I mean, damn, bro,

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you were read your frickin' rights before you even started

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talking to everybody, and everyone in America knows the saying

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you're innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

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So the thought this guy that thinks he's so damn smart.

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The thought that he would even believe police could guarantee

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an execution is ridiculous. That's the damn court's job. That's

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what they do, that's what the separation of power is.

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And so their advice to him was, well, hey, man,

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tell us everything, and you'll probably get what you want eventually,

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but we can't guarantee that. Talk to us, and then

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we can probably hammer out a pretty solid case that

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will warrant the death penalty if that's what you want.

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And he didn't like that answer at all. You can

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tell in his body language, the shifting, the movement. But

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finally he caved, as I guess some people would say,

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but I'm gonna kind of disagree. I've heard people say

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he caved in it. No, no, no, no, no. He wanted

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to share it all everyone. He wanted to. It was

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his big moment. This was going to be his tell all,

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almost like his autobiography of his most devious actions, and

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now was his time to brag, yes, brag about what

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he had been doing. This wasn't the same day as

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his arrest, though. When he was arrested driving the vehicle

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when police pulled him over. No, no, no, don't think

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that for a second. He continued to play let's make

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a deal with police for months. He really tried to

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strategize when and how he was going to give up information,

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and he was having fun playing these games, but he

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had these demands, and he knew if he held back

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a little bit and just kind of teased, then he

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would have leverage to get what he wanted. It was

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almost a manipulation or a game of cat and mouse.

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But seven months after his initial arrest, he did give

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multiple interviews and he chuckled and he laughed throughout all

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of them. See when he was talking, this is old

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news to him, I guess, And so he was rather

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lighthearted in his recollection of things that would make even

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the hardest of hearts feel something anything. I don't care

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how hardened you are, how bad life has been to you.

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The things that this man did to innocent people is unconscionable.

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But he chuckled through it all. And his exact words were,

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and I quote, Okay, I'll give you two bodies. So

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maybe I hang on words too much. Maybe I do.

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I'll admit that. But those six words in combination said

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so much. I'll give you two bodies. They weren't people

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to him. They were bodies like they were extras in

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a war movie who die in battle, but no one

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really cares because they weren't named, nor were they the

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main characters of the story. You know what I'm talking about.

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We lose people in movies, but they're not named. They're

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the random stormtroopers that get shot off in the middle

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of the film. But they matter to me, and they

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should matter to you. And when I hear people say

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they're true crime fans, in a way, it bothers me

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sometimes because I'm not a true crime fan. I'm a

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fan of knowing these people that went through something that

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I myself cannot even or want to imagine, what did

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they go through? I want to feel it almost with

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them emotionally. So since they do matter to me, before

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I cover exactly what Israel Key said, I'd like to

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introduce you to William Scott Courier. But friends and family

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they knew him as Bill and Bill was born in

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nineteen sixty one in Vermont, and he was a super

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bright kid. He excelled in school growing up. He was

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known for this. He was someone that they would say

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dedicated to his schoolwork and well beyond the dedication of

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most kids kids his same age. His parents, their names

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were Andrew and Marilyn, were beaming with pride whenever they

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spoke of their boy, because all of his academic success

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was something that would make any parent proud of the

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child that they were raising. And he would continue to

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make his parents proud, and by the time he was

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in his early twenties, he would meet a woman who

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would become the absolute love of his life. And her

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name was Lorraine Arnold. Now she was from New Hampshire,

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a little firecracker, one could say, considering she was born

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on the fourth of July. They got along from the jump,

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and they knew very quickly that this was going to

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be more than just casual dating. They both knew that

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they were very interested in spending a lot of time

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with one another and for the long haul. They had

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a bond that was something made absolutely in heaven. This

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was friendship. You know. They wanted to know everything about

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one another. They wanted to hang out as much as

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they could. They wanted to not only eat to together,

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but sleep together, and shop together and do laundry together.

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You know, just true love. When they were sick. They

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wanted to take care of one another. It was real

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and they could depend on one another. So this dedication

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was a long term commitment on both sides, and eventually

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Bill struck up the nerve to ask Lorraine's hand in marriage,

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to which she excitedly agreed, and on July twentieth of

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nineteen eighty five, they officially began their lives as a

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man and wife, settling on the west side of Essex, Vermont.

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Both Bill and Lorraine were what you would consider family people.

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They maintained very close relationships with their respective families, and

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Lorraine was especially close with her siblings. And the years

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would continue to pass the couple. You know, eventually, after

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a while you expect kids and all that, but the

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couple would never have children of their own. But that

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did not mean that they were out of children in

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their lives and that they were just these two people

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on an island. No, no, no, no, y'all. Between the

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both of them, they had tons of nieces and nephews

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to dote on and to bring them joy, and they

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were very involved and doting on these nieces and nephews.

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But the couple worked very hard and they both decided

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to really dive into their careers. That was their baby,

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that they were good workers. So I told you some

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years had passed, right. Well. Bill was now forty nine

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years old and he worked at the University of Vermont

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and he was working as an animal care technician. I

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think that's kind of cool. The people at the teaching

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clinic on the campus are always there to learn and

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animal people, and I love people who are animal people.

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Bill sounds like a kind hearted guy to me. He

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was described as quiet but very friendly, and it seemed

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he found the love of animals a calling for him

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and he really enjoyed his job. Lorraine, she was a

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little bit older. She's now fifty five, and she was

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employed at Fletcher Allen Healthcare Center in the financial services department.

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And I looked this up because I was curious what

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exactly this clinic was, so I wanted to know. And

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that's when it took me a little bit of time

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to figure this out too, because I finally realized that

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it too was on the UVM campus, so they both

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worked on the same college campus. But it's now known

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if you're from that area, I just se'll know. It's

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now known as UVM Medical Center, but it was originally

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called Fletcher Allen Healthcare. So both Bill and Lorraine were

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consummate professionals. They had a routine, it was well established,

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and they were the kind of people that would never

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know show to work. Matter of fact, looking at their

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employment history, neither one of them ever missed work. They

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were always there, you know, throughout the US, maybe once

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or twice, but these people went to work. And Wednesday,

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June eighth was no different. Both Bill and Lorraine worked

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their shifts and had normal days at their jobs, and

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at the end they said goodbye to their co workers.

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This was around five pm when we all typically get

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off work, and then they both headed to the house

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to see each other and decide what they were going

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to be having for supper that night. They were in

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a good place in their lives and they were very

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proud to have just celebrated their twenty fifth wedding anniversary.

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And I always am so proud of people when I

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see their anniversaries, wedding anniversaries, and they hit that fifteen

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twenty twenty five plus mark, that's incredible, that's amazing because

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marriage is hard, and if you've been married, you know

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that there's always going to be ups and downs, and

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these guys had stuck it out for the long haul.

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So they both arrived home and began to settle in

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for the evening. So, as far as everyone knew, they

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were supposed to be at work the next day. So

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Thursday mornings started off as usual and Fletcher Alan Healthcare

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opened up to start seeing patients. But Lorraine must have

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been running late because she was notably absent from her office.

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So after a little bit of time passed, it was

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realized that she hadn't called in, and so coworkers wondered

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if maybe she had overslept, because she would never not

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call in if she was going to be absent, So

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they started calling, but every call to Lorraine went unanswered. Now, strangely,

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I guess, or maybe luckily, Bill's own sister worked with

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Lorraine at that same clinic, and so as you can imagine,

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she was pretty upset or worried about Lorraine not coming in,

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and so she picked up the phone to call Bill,

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but she couldn't get in touch with her brother either.

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So this is one of those weird times where I'm

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gonna say, real quick, hindsight is twenty twenty you're listening

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to a true crime podcast, so I think you probably

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can figure out there's a problem here. But these were

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to grown adults who have the freedom to do what

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they want, when they want in this life. And so

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while it was very alarming, Bill's sisters still had to

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go about her work day, and they kept calling and

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trying to figure it out, and they just couldn't get

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a hold of them. But they still had to continue

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to do their jobs. But by the following day, the

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next morning, alarm bells are now going off. Something is

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very very wrong. People don't just change their habits after many, many,

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many years. We are creatures of habit. So Bill's sister,

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her name was Diana Smith, she went to their house.

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She physically got in her car and went to their house,

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and when she pulled up, she realized that their car

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was missing. So she immediately called police around ten am

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that morning, and she wanted to file a missing person's report.

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So police agreed there there's something squirrely about this, especially

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when habits just completely stop up. And so they contacted

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Bill's employer, the veterinary Clinic, and found that he hadn't

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been at work either neither day. Did he show up.

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So obviously things became very pressing when it was realized

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that neither Lorraine nor Bill had made it to work

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the previous day nor the current morning of the next day.

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That they were all in both living at the same

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home and both not showing up for work, and their

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car being gone qualifies as an emergencies, especially when these

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are family people that always answer the phone and are

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always in contact with people. So the police went by

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the couple's home to do a welfare check and see

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maybe they got sick, really seriously, maybe they got very sick,

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maybe carbon dioxide, maybe something happened in there, you know,

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But the car was gone, which would make that weird.

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But when they got there and they searched the house,

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sure enough they weren't there. And it's true the car

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was gone, But sometimes you have to think outside the

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realm of normalcy when you're trying to figure out what

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might have happened. And so police thought, well, maybe could

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they possibly have gone on a trip and forgot to

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tell people. It doesn't sound likely, but the car was gone,

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so I mean, it's not like it's completely totally out

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of the question. Or maybe they went somewhere and the

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car stalled and they didn't have their phones, and they

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are you know, something crazy like that could have happened.

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So police look into their phone and their bank records,

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but it was very very easy to see that there

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had been zero usage by either spouse on both their

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cell phones and the bank accounts. No communication and no

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money used. No one is likely to go without talking

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nor using any money like this, let alone to people

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in this situation. So police now suspected something way more sinister,

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maybe at place, and they continued to chase down possibilities

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of the couple's whereabouts. Again, obviously they are adults and

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they can decide to up and leave, but everyone they

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spoke to was one hundred percent adamant. These were not

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those people. They were not wal you know what is

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it wild child's or wallflower people or something like that. No,

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they were very structured, very responsible people. But by Friday,

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so they the Wednesday, the Thursday, now Friday, police found

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a huge lead. They found the courier's vehicle, which was

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a dark green nineteen ninety six Saturn Sedan and what

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the police were out patrolling and they found that vehicle

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parked behind an abandoned apartment building near a dumpster and

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looking at it geographically, it was only just about a

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mile from their house. I mean that's walking distance. The

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dumpster site not only was potential walking distance from their house,

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but it was also very close to the bus stop.

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All of this kind of makes you wonder did they

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walk or drive there? And then they could have walked

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back home and make did they want to disappear or

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did they jump a bus? You know, they had to

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look into all of these these circumstances. Jim, did you

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see what happened in Texas today?

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Wait before you tell me that, let me tell you

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what happened in New York.

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It cannot be as crazy as the case I told

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you about yesterday in Louisiana.

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You know what, we should do a podcast.

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About it, and with that we did. Crime War Weekly

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Now, people that live next to you, for good or bad?

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As a neighbor. You tend to know the people or

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at least some of their habits when you live next

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to them, even if you're not best friends. I mean,

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I can tell you right now. One of my neighbors

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is Daddy lives with them. He gets up every Saturday

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morning and he throttles up this truck. It's like a

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racing truck. And I know that he's gonna leave out

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and I know he's going to be back about four

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and a half hours later. It's just his routine. I

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know another neighbor of mine, I know for a fact

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that they have a third vehicle that's kind of like

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their fun vehicle. They're gonna take that out on a

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Saturday morning. I know. You know, just habits. I don't

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even know whose kids get get off the bus near

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me and what time, because I just see it every

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single day. Well, it was no different in their neighborhood

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and one of their neighbors, seventy two year old mister Shipley.

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He lived just two houses down from the couple. Now,

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the Couriers had lived in this neighborhood for about five years,

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and during that five years they would always partake in

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small talk with the old man when they were out

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working in their yard or walk or whatever. And so

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he told police that the couple lived a very low

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key life, but they always had visitors, relatives. He believed

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it was relatives were constantly there visiting them, and he

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even believed he didn't know one hundred percent, but he

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knew that on Sundays a small bus would usually stop

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by their house, and mister Shipley always thought that it

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was a church related bus in some way, but he

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never asked. I mean, it wasn't his business. It was

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just a neighborly observation. They were the neighbors also that

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were known for their impressive Christmas decorations, and they always

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kept a very tidy home, a very tidy yard. They

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worked hard to make sure their flower beds were nice.

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Did these sound like the types of people that will

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just up and disappear because they don't to me? So,

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knowing the car was found abandoned, and now realizing once

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they went into the home that Lorraine's purse was gone,

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the obvious consideration were that, okay, they were possibly carjacked,

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or the vehicle was stolen from their home, or they

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had been kidnapped, but two grown adults being kidnapped was

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kind of questionable. Now, Bill, he was five eleven and

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around two hundred and thirty pounds, certainly not a tiny guy.

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Could something have happened to them medically? Possibly? This is

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another consideration. Really, the only thing that Lorraine had that

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we would even call an issue physically was that her

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left leg was a little shorter than her right leg

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due to an ankle surgery that she had had. But

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that wasn't a major issue that would have caused her

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to not be able to be in contact with people.

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But Bill, however, he had more serious ailments. He had

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ankylosing spondylitis, and I hope I pronounced that correct. I'm

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not a doctor, believe it or not, but this is

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an incurable disorder which causes inflammation of the joints. And

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as a result of this disorder, his neck vertebrae were

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fused and he was unable to turn left or turn

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his head right, so he was kind of stuck. He

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would have to turn his whole shoulders to be able

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to see something on the sides of him. Now maybe

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you're thinking, Okay, well that's not horrible. He just can't

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turn his neck good. But medication was also a big

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concern because Bill suffered from diabetes and he required insulin daily.

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So this is where the police decided to release more

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information publicly, including the fact that they knew Bill did

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not have his insulin with him because it was still

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in the home. This would mean that this was a

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life or death issue, because if he wasn't medicated and

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he's now been gone for three days, he's going to

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be in a bind. Also to note was that Lorraine

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wore eyeglasses and they weren't optional eyeglasses. She needed these,

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yet both pairs, as well as her contact lenses were

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still in the house, but her purse and her wallet

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were missing, and that's why they were really starting to

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think about this is screening, maybe robbery or burglary to

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the common thinker. However, I want you to know that

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police continued to be very tight lipped from this point forward,

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which started to frustrate the general public. So the general

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public knew that this couple was missing, but that was

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about it other than they were medically in need and

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if anyone where they were police needed to know. But

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other than that, the police were not saying much and

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people wanted answers. But on the flip side. Police were

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wanting to maintain and protect the integrity of their investigation.

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What they weren't sharing to this point, though, painted a

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very serious picture. When police arrived at their home, they

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found the home locked, but it was in less than

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desirable condition to missing people. The window of an interior

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door which connected the garage to the house was smashed

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and there were bits of glass. It was shattered everywhere

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inside that area and right outside on these brick steps.

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But when you're looking at this door, which I will

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post on Patreon, the glass wasn't completely busted out of

466
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:27.799
this door. It was like a person, maybe a thin

467
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.559
person could have walked through it, but it wasn't completely

468
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:36.079
blown out of the door. They could, however, whoever broke

469
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.720
this door could have smashed that glass and then reached

470
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.759
their arm in and easily unlocked that door to gain

471
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:46.759
entry to the house. They were also alerted the police

472
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:51.119
were that a gun that Lorraine had purchased was missing

473
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.960
from the home, and that was a snubnosed Ruger thirty eight,

474
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:56.640
so a handgun. That gun was not in the house.

475
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.759
None of this was being released to the public, only

476
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:05.240
investigators and the person responsible for whatever had happened, would

477
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:10.200
know this detail. Now moving forward, police did canvas businesses

478
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:13.240
in the area for their security camera footage or if

479
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:17.079
they had seen anything, but that turned up nothing, absolutely nothing.

480
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.400
So Bill's sister Diana, as you can imagine, was completely

481
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.920
sickened by knowing her brother and her sister in law

482
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.119
were missing and they were not in possession of this

483
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.400
life saving medication that they would have needed. So she

484
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.640
made a statement to the media and this is a

485
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.319
direct quote of what she said. Bill and Lorraine Courier

486
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.319
are kind and caring people, beloved members of our family.

487
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.440
We are heartbroken by their disappearance and at a loss

488
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.680
to explain or understand it. Bill and Lorraine, if you

489
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:52.759
can hear this, know that we love you and that

490
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.000
we are doing everything we know how to to find

491
00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:00.119
you and to bring you home. I thought, Wow, what

492
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.279
strength you must have to stand up and say that,

493
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.720
and then to let them know if you hear this,

494
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:09.799
were coming, And don't you worry. That's a great sister

495
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.960
and a wonderful sister in law too. Now let's talk

496
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.400
about enemies. Were there possible enemies that these people could

497
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.519
have had. Well, the answer was no, they had no

498
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.160
known enemies, and there was no one with like a

499
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:28.680
specific vendetta either that the police could point out. They

500
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:32.440
weren't rich by any stretch of the imagination, and they

501
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.759
weren't flashy people that might attract the scumma society, especially

502
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:41.079
in this low key neighborhood where not a lot went on. So,

503
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.720
with no clue as to what could have happened to

504
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:47.759
the couple, family members stepped up and they announced publicly

505
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.480
that they would give a ten thousand dollars reward for

506
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.440
information that would break open the case of where their

507
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.880
loved ones were. Basically, if people wouldn't talk just out

508
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.000
of the goodness of their hearts, maybe money could possibly

509
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:05.119
persuade someone to do so. And eventually, an old friend

510
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:09.079
of Lorraine's would come forward to police with information she

511
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:12.119
thought maybe useful. Now, I don't want to imply that

512
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.319
she came forward because of the money, because I'm not

513
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:16.960
giving exact time dates and stamps, just to be clear.

514
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.119
But this woman did come forward, and that friend's name

515
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.799
was Linda Pratt, and she told police that she had

516
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:28.039
run into Linda roughly two months prior to their disappearance,

517
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.359
and according to Linda, Lorraine told her that she was

518
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.559
afraid of a man in her life who may possibly

519
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:40.480
be stalking her. Now that's a pretty solid thing for

520
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.279
someone to come out and flat out say stalking, and

521
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.119
without much else to go on, police followed up on

522
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:51.960
this information heavily, but nothing ever came of it. They

523
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:56.000
couldn't pinpoint anybody that might have been stalking her, no names.

524
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.200
So while the public began to voice frustrations over lack

525
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:06.599
of breakthroughs in the case, it wasn't for lack of effort. Investigators,

526
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:11.640
just for your knowledge, reviewed hundreds of hours of video surveillance.

527
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:15.519
They were carrying out eleven search warrants. They had issued

528
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.839
three subpoenas on people, all in the name of finding

529
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.240
Bill and Lorraine, but everything that they were doing was

530
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.799
leading to a dead end in the moment. One promising

531
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.880
bit of information was something that the police wouldn't be

532
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.559
telling the public for now, though they wanted to make

533
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.480
sure that they didn't spook anyone that may be involved.

534
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:44.200
Investigators had collected and sent forensic evidence that they were

535
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.400
able to collect from inside the couple's home to the

536
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.880
Vermont Crime Lab for analysis, but this was going to

537
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.960
take time for it to be evaluated and for the

538
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.599
results to come back. And I don't know if you

539
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:01.279
have this in your area, but locally we have these websites,

540
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.440
these like rants and raves websites were every numb nut

541
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.160
without an ounce of intelligence, is able to jump on

542
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:12.039
there and make any complaint, any accusation, say things that

543
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.119
are the furthest from the truth, and then people take

544
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.000
that as just solid information. And I got the point,

545
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.880
or I got the gist that that was kind of

546
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:25.240
what was going on here. I'm not necessarily saying online,

547
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.039
but I'm saying people were running their mouths and they

548
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.440
really had no clue as to what was going on.

549
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.680
They just took their viewpoint that the police weren't saying anything,

550
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:35.880
as the police were twilling the thumbs and doing nothing.

551
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.440
But as the days and the weeks passed, I'm talking

552
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.599
roughly we're now six weeks into this couple's disappearance, another

553
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.160
man came forward and he claimed to police that he

554
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:51.839
had seen a man driving the couple's green Saturn, and

555
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.519
he was specific on Pearl Street, which was right near

556
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.640
the dump site of the vehicle, and he gave the date,

557
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.119
the date of ninth, that was the day that the

558
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.160
couple was reported missing, so that little bit of information

559
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:11.559
seemed pretty legit. Basically, the reason the man even realized

560
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.760
that he needed to come to police was because he

561
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:18.400
had been driving and he nearly collided with this vehicle

562
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:21.039
and it upset him that this other person would almost

563
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.880
hit him, and so he went and he jotted down

564
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.760
the vehicle's license plate because he was pissed off at

565
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.159
this erratic driver. So it's like, wow, what a break man.

566
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.679
Whoever that was wouldn't have been driving crazy, they wouldn't

567
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:38.239
have gotten the license plate. So the man agreed, Hey,

568
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.039
I'll come in. I want to help in any way

569
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.800
that I can. Police asked him, would you be able

570
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.400
to give enough information for us to possibly create a

571
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:48.119
composite sketch of this guy, and the man said, I'll

572
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.639
come and tell you what I saw, and so he did.

573
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.880
And that sketch, which I also will put on Patreon

574
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.719
for you, isn't something that I would call groundbreaking as

575
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.280
far as a visual of a person. I mean, it

576
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.679
was a white male with a beard and shoulder lengked

577
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.519
hair that was parted in the center this sketch of

578
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.000
this person. They had narrow eyes and a very thin nose,

579
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.119
but I mean, basically, he looked like every white dude

580
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.159
at Walmart when I go shopping. But it did give

581
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:22.559
some general insight to the person who may possibly be involved.

582
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.800
And I'm gonna tell you this too kind of out

583
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.800
of I guess timeline, but I want to tell you this,

584
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.920
Whether it was a good guess or not, this sketch

585
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:38.480
does resemble Israel Keys. In another chain of events, detectives

586
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:41.239
were able to figure out that the courier's car had

587
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.639
only driven up to forty miles, of which the couriers

588
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.800
were not believed to have driven themselves. Now that statement,

589
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:54.320
off the top seems kind of weird, Okay, how the

590
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.960
hell could the police possibly know this? Well, you girl

591
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.920
here researched it because I wanted to know, how would

592
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.679
you even come to that conclusion? Not that I'm doubting it,

593
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.960
but like, what in the world would make you even

594
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:11.000
think that. Well, the answer is that these detectives that

595
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:13.400
were being accused by the public of not doing enough,

596
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.400
they straight up got down to the nitty damn gritty

597
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:23.199
of detective work. Officers set out to determine how far

598
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.039
had the car traveled since the couple disappeared, and so

599
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.119
to do this. They actually had a pretty legit way

600
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.800
of doing it because they found a receipt and it

601
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.639
was dated June fourth. It turned out that the vehicle

602
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.559
had luckily been serviced at a service station, and guess what,

603
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.559
when it was serviced, the receipt had put the mileage

604
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.119
on it. So things that don't even seem relevant whenever

605
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.880
they're taken in evidence in these houses, you never know

606
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.599
what will be relevant. And so they started with the

607
00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:00.400
current mileage recorded on the vehicle's odometer when they founded

608
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.480
at the dumpster, and then they subtracted the mileage that

609
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.719
they knew the car had gone based on that June

610
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.320
fourth receipt, and detectives then determined the known trips that

611
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:19.000
the couriers would have absolutely made since June fourth, and

612
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.719
those were trips to and from work, to the grocery store,

613
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:24.840
which they knew that they went, and then to go

614
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.519
visit a relative, which they were able to confirm. So,

615
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.440
I mean, google map it. You can get the mileage

616
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.760
that way, right, So they then subtracted that known mileage

617
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:39.719
from the June fourth mileage, and that left approximately forty

618
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.960
miles of unknown travel. And hey, maybe I'm simple, but

619
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.679
I thought that was That was intelligent, That was great.

620
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:50.800
That was impressive to me that they would even go

621
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.760
that route. So assuming then that the car would have

622
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.239
traveled one way at least twenty miles to the place

623
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.480
that it was ultimately found abandoned. I know, I told

624
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.960
you that it was found ultimately one mile from their home,

625
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.519
but they weren't found one mile from their home, so

626
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.519
they're thinking that there was probably a twenty mile area

627
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.280
that the car would have traveled. They then created a

628
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.559
radius to search for the couple in that area. So

629
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.239
was this an exact science, of course not, but it

630
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.400
at least was something founded in fact that could be

631
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:31.000
expanded upon. So meanwhile, using this what i'll call radius

632
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.480
of concern, canines were brought in to assist with the

633
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.119
search for the couple. And while I don't know the

634
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.920
exact method that was used in the search, most likely

635
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.639
tracking dogs or trailing dogs as they're sometimes called. Those

636
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.280
were probably given an article of known clothing from the

637
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.159
victims from the house, and then they would lock in

638
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.320
on that scent based on the known scent that the

639
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.480
police were able to give them. So the dogs are

640
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:58.679
then going to turn around and basically try to do matching.

641
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:00.400
They're going to try to match the scent from what

642
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.119
they've just taken in. So the Vermont State Police Search

643
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:08.400
and Rescue Team they assisted a volunteer search organization that

644
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:13.119
was called the New England K nine that focuses rescue

645
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:18.199
efforts in Vermont and the New Hampshire area. And these

646
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:23.400
were long, hot days spent searching for this couple, and

647
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:27.639
that included a border Collie named Sadie and her handler.

648
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.159
His name was Mike Halpin, and Sadie and Mike, along

649
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:35.519
with others, spent these very very long hot days searching

650
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:40.639
fields and wooded areas for the couple. And while not

651
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.519
necessarily saying it out loud, most officers were now of

652
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.039
the belief that this was going to be more of

653
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:50.079
a recovery effort than a rescue mission. So they would

654
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:54.480
spread out in teams of five or six. Talking about

655
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.159
the police here. They would spread out in teams of

656
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:01.360
five or six officers, and they targeted these ten specific

657
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:04.440
areas that they thought would have been good areas to

658
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.159
search that might hold clues. And so the teams would

659
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:11.320
spread out roughly one hundred yards on either side of

660
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.400
these half mile sections of road and then they would

661
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.280
walk in unison so as to not miss a thing

662
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.239
as they're looking down and searching for even the most

663
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.480
minuscule of item, because the reality was that they were

664
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:27.800
looking in places where a body maybe or a place

665
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.440
that evidence very likely could have been thrown out of

666
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:34.480
a window. Now the chief, you might ask why one

667
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.159
hundred yards? Why was that kind of the distance they

668
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.400
could have gone way further. Well, the chief was directing

669
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.559
them to this one hundred yard distance because according to him,

670
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:52.400
that was the distance that someone could probably drag their bodies. Again,

671
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.639
that's kind of morbid to think about, but that's the

672
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:58.079
reality of recovery of people. If that's what you believe

673
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.480
you're doing. Bill wade about two hundred and twenty pounds,

674
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:04.440
Lorraine weighed about one hundred and sixty pounds, and if

675
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.320
you translate that into dead weight, for lack of a

676
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.880
better term, this would have been a lot of work

677
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.440
for somebody, And so that's why he stuck it to

678
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:16.679
that distance. And throughout all of this searching nothing was

679
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.480
ever found. And this went on constantly. I believe overall

680
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:27.159
they did eight different major searches for the couple. So

681
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.840
while police were attempting to remain tight lipped to not

682
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:36.880
hurt their investigation. The community now started placing immense amounts

683
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.920
of pressure for something to happen or for there to

684
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.760
be some new news broken to them, assuming that the

685
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:49.320
lack of news meant police weren't trying, would in turn

686
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:54.760
become an issue because the community, not realizing it was

687
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:58.320
about to really get in the way. And maybe with

688
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:03.480
good intentions, but what you don't know may just be

689
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:05.960
because the police need to keep type lipped, like I

690
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.320
mentioned before, because they don't want to tip any other

691
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.639
killer off to what they know. But the average citizen

692
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.920
doesn't get this. And while I'm a true crime podcaster,

693
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.480
I also would love to teach people something that no

694
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.519
news being broken doesn't mean nothing's happening. I could stand

695
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.199
outside of your house and not see movement all day

696
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.000
long and say, you know, these are the laziest people

697
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.079
I've ever seen in my entire life. They haven't come

698
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.480
said one thing about what's going on here, and they

699
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.039
need to. But on the inside of that house, you're

700
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.719
cleaning your butt off right now. I know for a fact.

701
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:41.119
My friend that I follow and that I love on TikTok,

702
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.719
the crazy cleaning Lady right now, she has been over

703
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:49.440
scrubbing somebody's tub, but nobody knows that because she's not

704
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:55.199
out there telling everybody. So in response to no breaking news, incredibly,

705
00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.920
the Burlington Free Press made demands to see the affidavits

706
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.360
police used to persuade a judge to grant those first

707
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.760
eleven search warrants. So, to make it simple for you,

708
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.440
the media was now putting in public records requests and saying,

709
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:16.599
we want to see these warrants. Well, this wasn't something

710
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.599
that the police wanted to release, okay, but based on

711
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.840
the Freedom of Information Act that we have out there,

712
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:30.440
two Vermont Superior judges denied three separate requests from the

713
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:35.079
District Attorney's office to keep the warrants secret. Now, I

714
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.719
know a lot of us listening are not law enforcement professionals,

715
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.880
and that's okay. But what I'm trying to tell you

716
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.960
is that sometimes search warrants are done and the police

717
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.360
don't find exactly what they need in that exact moment

718
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.480
of the search warrant. But maybe those people that are involved,

719
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.159
or something they do get later on will be so

720
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.000
important and it may break this case wide open. But

721
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.559
now here's the media wanting to blast it all over

722
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:02.000
the news so every Tom Dick and Harry and bad

723
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.159
guy in America can keep up with what's happening. I

724
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.599
hope you can see how this could be a problem.

725
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:11.119
It's not a transparency issue. It's an integrity of an

726
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:17.719
investigation of two missing people issue. So the prosecutors filed

727
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.119
an appeal and they said, look, judges, disclosing this information

728
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:29.800
is going to absolutely jeopardize this investigation. But they said

729
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:33.320
that it should be released. The superior court judges believed

730
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:37.960
in their opinions, respectfully, that nothing in these warrants was

731
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:41.639
overly sensitive and so it should be released. Sorry, guys,

732
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.519
but it went to a higher court and that higher

733
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.920
court would thankfully overrule them. In the end. The police

734
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.519
weren't being tight liped to hurt the public or to

735
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.760
hide information in a negative way. They just didn't want

736
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.079
to tip off anybody. Please use this case as an

737
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.639
example of a possible reflection of yourself to think inside

738
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.440
when you get frustrated that there's no news on a

739
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.239
case that really bothers you, that doesn't mean work's not

740
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:13.840
being done behind the scenes. Know that, Okay, not always,

741
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.840
but in a lot of cases, silence sometimes is the

742
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:23.320
best bet to ensure justice in the end. But incredibly,

743
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.519
after all of that went on, which took effort and

744
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:31.960
time and resources to combat, there then became a stirring

745
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:36.719
amongst them the community of how much money was being

746
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.840
spent on this special testing of DNA that they had

747
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.440
taken during the initial investigation. It was like the community

748
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.039
was mad no matter what happened. They were pissed off

749
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:49.960
if you were working on it, and they were pissed

750
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:51.840
off if you weren't telling them anything and they thought

751
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.679
you weren't working on it. So the basic argument now

752
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.719
became that the taxpayers were funding shoddy investigation or something

753
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:06.119
along those lines. But the truth, if anybody would have

754
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.519
done their due diligence here, was that taxpayers weren't actually

755
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:15.320
footing that bill. Wow, but people don't care to know that.

756
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.199
They just want to bitch. The funding was coming from

757
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.280
none other You're gonna love this. It was coming from

758
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:26.280
none other than drug dealers. I know, you're like, what

759
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:28.599
cleaning lady in the tub, just like through her clean

760
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.360
and spatul or whatever the hell she's using. But drug

761
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.360
dealers were actually the ones funding this. Because when the

762
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.119
police were busting these drug dealers and taking in all

763
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:44.480
of this property or cash during these busts, That money

764
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:49.599
and that property was forfeited per the law. All of

765
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.000
that was forfeited money and it was placed in the

766
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.920
town's equitable Sharing fund, and then a select board had

767
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.000
the final say on how all of that money was

768
00:46:58.039 --> 00:46:59.960
being spent. And I know right now, I'm not trying

769
00:46:59.960 --> 00:47:01.920
to be boring to you and tell you that, but

770
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.800
what the public doesn't understand will always be a problem.

771
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.599
But if we don't care to educate ourselves, who in

772
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.960
law enforcement wants to waste valuable time explaining all of this?

773
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:15.440
You know what I mean. It reminded me one time

774
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:17.280
one of my kids was begging for something at the

775
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:18.599
store and I said, no, I don't have any money

776
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.599
on me. And she turned around with God as my

777
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:23.480
witness and popped off and said, but you have a

778
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.239
check book. You have checks, so you have money. Like,

779
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:29.400
do you think I'm gonna actually sit down and explain

780
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.840
right there in the middle of Walmart? Why I feel

781
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:33.719
like I'm always at Walmart? Sorry, Jim, I'm always talking

782
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:38.440
about Walmart, But anyway, you know, I'm at TJ. Max.

783
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.199
I need to quit playing with y'all, I'm at TJ Max.

784
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.119
It's like I'm gonna turn around at TJ Max and

785
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.960
explain to my six year old how checks work and

786
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:48.360
how they clear and that you have to have money.

787
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:50.400
You're not gonna do that will now equate that to

788
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:55.920
something more serious law enforcement situations. Ignorance of the law

789
00:47:56.159 --> 00:48:00.920
in this situations equates to an ungrateful and often problematic

790
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.239
general public. If I'm being honest, and I'm being honest. Also,

791
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.199
another thing that the public wasn't thinking about. Crime wasn't

792
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:13.559
stopping just because two people were now missing. Criminals don't

793
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.719
give a shit what's going on, and if the police

794
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.239
are overworked, they don't care. And what if I told

795
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:23.119
you this. Those same police and those same canines were

796
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:27.079
also out looking for missing teen Selena Cass as well

797
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.280
during all of this, and during all of that same

798
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.119
time her body Selena Cass, this teenager that was also missing.

799
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:39.119
Her body was later recovered. Unfortunately, there was a lot

800
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.199
going on, even though people didn't always know this or

801
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:46.719
realize it. So while they're fighting the public, they're fighting

802
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.639
records requests, the courts are involved, plus they're trying to

803
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:51.920
get evidence and DNA and all that's taken care of.

804
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:57.719
Time would pass and roughly a year would pass and

805
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:04.880
there would still be nothing ever found of any great breakthrough.

806
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.559
The missing couple would really become a cold case with

807
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:13.880
no leads. It's tragic, it's sad, and it's sickening, but

808
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:18.079
this does happen. But then, circling back to the start

809
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:22.280
of this episode, Israel Keys decided that he would quote

810
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:27.400
give up two bodies during an interrogation after Samantha's death.

811
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.840
Those two bodies, as you now know, will be that

812
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:37.639
of Bill and Lorraine. See. Israel traveled a lot during

813
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:41.320
his killing spreeze, and those trips that he would take

814
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:46.119
he would justify by visiting family or going on a

815
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:51.360
little short vacation, but he always had murder on his mind.

816
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:57.280
He would actually plan these trips to murder. He flew

817
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:01.800
in from Anchorage, Alaska to Shakha on June the eighth,

818
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:05.960
and he confirmed that when that plane landed, when those

819
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:11.159
wheels hit the ground, he already had specific plans of

820
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:15.239
killing someone, but it would be spontaneous. He didn't know who,

821
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:20.119
but somebody was going to die tonight. And once he

822
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:24.599
landed he would go to the handy n suites in Essex, Vermont,

823
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:29.039
where he would stay during this short trip. Now, that hotel,

824
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.800
I want to tell you this. That hotel wasn't by chance.

825
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:37.280
It wasn't because of cost, It wasn't because of reviews

826
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:41.159
that he had read online. No, there was a very

827
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:45.960
specific reason that he stayed at that hotel. It turns

828
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.920
out that he had been there before and was he

829
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.679
back because he really liked it. No, a few years prior.

830
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:58.119
He had actually been in that exact same area, and

831
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.559
he left something behind. This item, if you're wondering, was

832
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.519
a bucket. And no, it wasn't left as in he

833
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:08.639
forgot it and the hotel might have it in their

834
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:13.079
lost and found either That's not what this was. The

835
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:17.239
bucket was an Orange Home Depot bucket, and no one

836
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:20.840
would have found it. And he knew this. The reason

837
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.559
he knew this was because he had buried it. So

838
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:28.719
was he like geocashing or something like that. No, And

839
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.000
if you don't know what geocashing is, the only reason

840
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.280
I know is because my friend, who is a certifiable

841
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:34.760
nerd and he knows it and I know and we

842
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.519
love each other, was talking about geocashing one day and

843
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.000
I was like, what the hell is that? And he

844
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:40.480
was like, come on, let's do it on our lunch break.

845
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:43.079
And I went geocashing with him on our lunch break

846
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.880
and I ended up finding the geocash in a pole

847
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.840
in front of a Carter supermarket, but not before people

848
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.599
thought that we were bad guys and got the police involved. Anyway,

849
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:57.760
But was this guy was Israel Key's geocashing? Absolutely not.

850
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.360
This wasn't to be shared and it wasn't to be

851
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:06.519
found during an adventure with clues. Only Israel knew its whereabouts.

852
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:11.239
And this bucket was valuable because the contents that were

853
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.360
inside were what he called his kill cash. And I

854
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:18.920
don't mean money, I mean as in his kill kit.

855
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:26.519
Inside of this bucket were bullets, guns, a homemade silencer,

856
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.280
all of this for a twenty two caliber, including a

857
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.719
drum canister. And if you don't know what that is,

858
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:34.679
I'll post a picture online because I want you to

859
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:40.679
understand what that is. There were zip ties, draino and

860
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:45.400
duct tape. All of these items buried and stored for

861
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:53.960
a future attack on unsuspecting people years prior. And basically

862
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.559
the deal was this. He knew he was going to

863
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:58.960
plan a trip in the future. So he left it

864
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:04.039
specifically to use on a future murder. And now he

865
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.119
was giddy with excitement to dig it up and go

866
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.800
on the hunt. But first he would have to do

867
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.760
some recon He couldn't just be all will nilly about it.

868
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:16.960
So he walked out of his hotel, and as luck

869
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.400
would have it, there was a neighborhood right there, and

870
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:24.480
it was just convenient that it was walking distance. Excellent.

871
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:29.679
His whole goal during the recon mission was to pass

872
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.920
just as a man on his walk, but really he

873
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:37.800
was surveying the homes for easy access. Now, his preference,

874
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:39.639
yes he had a preference, and I want you to

875
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:42.719
think about this, because Israel Keys is not the only

876
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.840
guy that thinks like this in the world. His preference

877
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:49.920
was to choose a home number one with an attached garage.

878
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.119
And I think that this purpose was so that if

879
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:56.440
he broke in, like through a side window, you wouldn't

880
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:59.239
be able to tell, and then he could move covertly

881
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:03.960
in this garage, which every garage has access to a house.

882
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:05.719
You know, there's always going to be an entrance door.

883
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.400
So that's what I believe that was about. So as

884
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.719
he walked, he calmly assessed the homes until he saw

885
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:17.280
it the first home that met his needs. And strangely,

886
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:20.000
when you look at the courier's house, it almost looked

887
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.599
like his own home, just the colors were in reverse.

888
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.480
It was a white home with bluish shutters and accents,

889
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:29.320
but it was perfect, and it also gave off some

890
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:33.000
vibes to him that he liked. Maybe an elderly person

891
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:35.920
lived there, which was great because this made this an

892
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:39.800
easy target. He didn't see dogs, and he didn't get

893
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:42.960
the gist that children lived there, so these would be

894
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.199
much easier targets and there wouldn't be a lot of

895
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.119
people to manhandle. So he got his bucket and he

896
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:55.079
approached his target just about midnight, so it was dark. Now.

897
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:58.280
It would be silly to allow the people inside an

898
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.199
opportunity to call for help if they heard something, so

899
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:04.320
before he even went to go enter the home, first

900
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.760
things first, he found the phone line and he cut it.

901
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.559
He was able to do this without drawing attention, too,

902
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:15.760
because he had preplanned his outfit for that evening, all

903
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:21.039
black and accented with a headlamp. He was also armed

904
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.320
with that handgun in case he was confronted by anyone,

905
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:28.800
because his safety was paramount, and he slinked into the

906
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.400
garage and he approached that glass door, which gave access

907
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.639
immediately to the courrier's kitchen area, and smashing the glass,

908
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.320
he was able to reach in, unlock that door and

909
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:41.920
enter the home. And there must not have been an

910
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:47.800
alarm because nothing sounded perfect. Now Israel had been ready

911
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.880
to do what he called a blitz attack, but to

912
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:55.519
his amazement and probably a shock, the home remained quiet,

913
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:58.440
just the ticking of the clock and the air conditioner

914
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:03.079
humming in the house, and no one knew. So he

915
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.639
cautiously tiptoed through the home looking for the master bedroom,

916
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.599
and he finally was able to find it, and he

917
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:13.639
slowly opened that door and was able to see through

918
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.719
the low, low low lighting through the through the blinds

919
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:21.480
that there were two people in bed, resting peacefully, completely

920
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:27.400
unaware that death was just feet away. But something made

921
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:31.280
them stir, and they sleepily started to wrestle and look

922
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:35.159
about the room, but Lorraine, without her glasses nor her

923
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:39.199
contacts in, she couldn't see well. But that quickly changed

924
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:42.280
when the light from his headlamp jolted them both into

925
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:47.199
immediate fear. Who's there or who are you? He wouldn't

926
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:50.000
have to tell them, though, because the gun he shoved

927
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:54.079
in their faces confirmed he was dangerous. That's who he was.

928
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:58.079
And faced with that gun, they remained as calm as

929
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:02.360
possible as the intruder ordered them up and led them

930
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:07.360
both into their kitchen, and Israel added here that you

931
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:09.920
have to make sure that they know who is in

932
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.719
charge immediately, so you tie them up. Those were his words.

933
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.840
They have to know you're in charge, so you immediately

934
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.119
tie them up. As if the cops needed to know

935
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.360
this for future serial killing, I don't know, and that's

936
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:27.239
exactly what Israel did, restraining them both with zip ties

937
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:30.880
thirty six inches. I'm assuming and you know why if

938
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.679
you've been paying close attention to all the episodes in

939
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:37.679
this series so far. And once he had them both secure,

940
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:42.039
he then began quizzing the couple on their valuables and

941
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:47.559
their assets. Where are your cell phones? He snapped. He

942
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:50.320
wanted to make sure that he got ahold of those

943
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.400
because he did not want there to be any further

944
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.079
communication to the outside world, and nothing should be readily

945
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.880
available for them to be able to warn anybody that

946
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.599
they are in trouble. So once he got their phones,

947
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.280
Now where do you keep your guns? Is there a safe?

948
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:06.280
Now?

949
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.599
Tell me he's got a gun at them the whole time,

950
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:11.360
and the rain told him where a gun was, and

951
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:12.880
so he went and he got that and he took

952
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:15.519
it as well, and then he started asking them about

953
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.719
ATM cards and did they have any cash? And the

954
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:25.159
couple readily gave every single thing over to this captor. So,

955
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:30.159
now satisfied with his victims and taking their possessions, he

956
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:33.760
then untied their feet and he directed them both at

957
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:38.480
gunpoint to get into their own car. So, scared out

958
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.039
of their own minds, but willing to comply in exchange

959
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:45.360
for assumed safety, the couple got into the car with

960
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:48.880
their captor, and the three of them drove away from

961
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:55.280
their home destination they don't know, but Israel. He was prepared.

962
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:59.519
He wasn't going to just be on some random trip

963
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.679
with with an unknown outcome. Not this guy. He definitely

964
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:07.360
had a place in mind as their next destination, an

965
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:12.199
abandoned farmhouse not far from where the couple lived. So

966
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:16.599
they drive in silence and in the dark, no one

967
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.599
knowing that these two have been kidnapped and I'm sure

968
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:24.320
the feeling of helplessness and just flat out terror to

969
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:27.400
be ripped out of your bed in your pajamas at

970
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:32.800
gunpoint and now you can't see well and your husband

971
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.239
is right there beside you. You but he can't save you,

972
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:38.159
can't help you. You're just at the mercy of a stranger.

973
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:43.760
So they drive along until eventually they pulled up in

974
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.719
the dead of night to a home. So looking at it,

975
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:52.360
though it was dark, it was abandoned, it was hot,

976
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:57.599
and it was uninviting, but Israel turned off the car

977
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:03.159
and with the gun he ordered Bill out. He turned

978
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:07.360
and he threatened Lorraine with everything he had, you better

979
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:11.519
remain seated or I'm going to kill y'all. So she

980
01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:15.719
shakes her head and she doesn't move. So Bill got out,

981
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:19.400
and now realizing that the couple was going to be

982
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:23.880
separated from each other, this became extremely stressful for the

983
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:28.559
both of them. The old home in front of them

984
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:33.800
was two stories, and Israel forced Bill inside and then

985
01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:38.800
led him down to the bottom level. Once inside, that's

986
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.320
where he tied Bill up zip tying him to a

987
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:47.280
stool before he went back out to go get Lorraine.

988
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:49.960
But when Israel walked back out the front door. He

989
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:53.559
was pissed to find that Lorraine had escaped the vehicle

990
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.119
and she was trying her best now to run towards

991
01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:59.840
the main road, unable to see well and unsteadying her gait,

992
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:03.000
but she was running for her life. She was running

993
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:07.079
with everything a fifty five year old woman partially bound

994
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:11.239
could run with well. Israel jumped off the porch and

995
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:15.559
tore off after her, running at Max's speed. He was younger,

996
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.599
he was faster, he was more physically fit in age alone,

997
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:23.039
so he continued to gain on her by the second,

998
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:26.400
and just like he did Samantha Koenig, as he got

999
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:30.079
right within reaching distance of her, he jumped. He slammed

1000
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:32.960
his body into lorrains, and he tackled her to the ground,

1001
01:01:33.199 --> 01:01:37.559
knocking the breath from her and now angry and sneering

1002
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.199
that she would even fight back, she would even think

1003
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:45.760
about fighting back against him, Israel, he grabbed her, and

1004
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.480
without even the care enough to let her get back

1005
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:52.480
to her feet, he was now stamping while he dragged

1006
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:57.559
her back inside the rundown house. Well, as you can imagine,

1007
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:02.239
Bill was now beside himself, yelling for Lorraine and yelling

1008
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:06.639
at their abductor where is my wife? Where is my wife?

1009
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:10.679
And everything inside of Bill screamed, save your love. But

1010
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:14.079
he was disabled and he was tied up, and in

1011
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.519
that moment all he had was his voice, so he

1012
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.519
used it and he was loud. And as Bill yelled

1013
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:26.000
in desperation, what are you doing? Bring me back my wife,

1014
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:31.039
Israel continued to drag Lorraine up the stairs. He drug

1015
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.440
her up the stairs into the bedroom where there happens

1016
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:39.360
to be an old bed. Now I know, you know

1017
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:42.880
what's about to happen. He drug her over to the

1018
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.679
bed and he threw her down on it, and he

1019
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.679
tied her up, arms and legs strapped to the bed corners.

1020
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:54.840
But Bill Bill never stopped screaming for his wife. His

1021
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:58.480
beloved would know he was there, even if she only

1022
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:03.320
heard him, and Israel was mad about it. He wanted

1023
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:09.679
Bill to shut the fuck up, so he returned downstairs

1024
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:13.159
to go handle his business. But when he got down there,

1025
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.800
he found that Bill, in a surge of adrenaline mixed

1026
01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:21.159
with the need to save his wife, Bill had mustered

1027
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:25.079
the strength beyond his normal capacity and had ripped himself

1028
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:30.159
partially free from that stool, and realizing this Israel lost

1029
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:36.880
all control. Israel's thoughts. You know, I'm in charge. Things

1030
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.000
are they're not supposed to go this way. I'm in charge.

1031
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:43.960
You're gonna do what I say. But now Bill had

1032
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.480
altered his plans, which meant that Bill was messing up

1033
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.519
his fantasy. And if you're gonna mess up my fantasy,

1034
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:55.480
this isn't fun. This is a struggle for me. So

1035
01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:00.679
Israel even said during his confession that he had landed out,

1036
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:03.400
he had everything he needed, and he wanted things to

1037
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.559
go exactly the way he planned and in a very

1038
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:10.320
specific way. And in that moment, they were not going

1039
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:16.000
that way. Bill, who was disabled, who had fused vertebrae

1040
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:19.960
in his neck, didn't have his insulin, was in his

1041
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:26.039
pajamas and was strapped to a stool, was ready for

1042
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:32.400
a fucking fight. Bring it on, you, psychopath. Bill was

1043
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:36.280
a gentleman usually, but this was different. This was war,

1044
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:39.119
and just like a bull that already has the swords

1045
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:42.760
in its back, it still faces the matador, and Bill

1046
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.480
was that bull. He was ready to risk it all

1047
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:48.920
to save his lorraine, even if he was physically no

1048
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:52.360
match for the person in front of him. The fight

1049
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:57.000
was on, and Bill did every single thing he could

1050
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:01.079
to stop this assailant. He struggled, he swung his arm

1051
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:03.159
as best he could. He tried to duck out of

1052
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:08.320
the way, but Israel simply had the upper hand. Israel

1053
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.119
found a shovel that was nearby, and he grabbed it,

1054
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:14.559
and he was so enraged that Bill would even try

1055
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:17.840
to fight. He reached back with that shovel and he

1056
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.159
swung it with all of his might, smashing that metal

1057
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:27.800
end into Bill's skull, immediately injuring him. He then closed

1058
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:30.840
the distance that gap between him and Bill, and he

1059
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:34.840
continued to swing the shovel over and over and over again,

1060
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:38.360
smoking Bill with it with every swing, and he hit

1061
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:42.440
Bill over and over until Bill was unable to get

1062
01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:48.679
back up and breathing heavy and spitting with anger. Israel

1063
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:52.679
then got up and retrieved his gun, where he walked

1064
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:57.440
back over to Bill, who is exhausted, who is gravely

1065
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:01.719
injured and doing anything he can to stay alive and

1066
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:07.119
try to save Lorraine. Israel walks up and he just

1067
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:12.679
stands over him. Bill was groaning, That's all he could

1068
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:18.119
do at this point. How dare he try to interrupt

1069
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:24.679
my fantasy? And seething with anger? Israel pointed the gun

1070
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:30.239
and he pulled the trigger, shooting Bill multiple times and

1071
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.800
killing him. Try and get up from that, Israel thought,

1072
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:41.719
so he brushes himself off. Bill's no longer moving, and

1073
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:47.679
Israel returned up the staircase to the now insanely afraid Lorraine.

1074
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:52.320
There is no doubt she heard Bill yelling. There's no

1075
01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:56.920
doubt she heard the struggle. She probably heard the gunshots,

1076
01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:01.119
but remember Israel had a homemade silencer. But either way,

1077
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:05.159
there is no way that she didn't hear the silence.

1078
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:11.280
Bill was no longer making any noise, and that alone

1079
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:17.639
was terrifying. And considering their ages in comparison to Israel's

1080
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:23.039
Lorraine's to Israel's, I'm gonna say rape doesn't first come

1081
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:26.719
to mind. Lorraine was old enough to be his mother,

1082
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:30.920
a modest woman who didn't have a violent bone in

1083
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:35.679
her body. Yet she now lay strapped to a bed

1084
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.199
at the mercy of a psychopath in the middle of

1085
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:44.880
a night in an abandoned home. So when Israel re

1086
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:49.280
entered the room, he immediately attacked her. He took out

1087
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:51.559
a knife that he had and he started to rip

1088
01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:55.440
through Lorraine's clothes, cutting through the clothes and then he

1089
01:07:55.559 --> 01:08:03.039
commenced to raping Loraine Courier, not once, but twice, and

1090
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:07.760
throughout those rapes he decided he wanted to strangle her.

1091
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:15.119
He liked this, He liked that violence while raping this woman.

1092
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:21.079
He choked her so hard that she would lose consciousness

1093
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:23.439
at times, it wouldn't be enough to kill her because

1094
01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:25.399
she would come back to and when she realized he

1095
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:28.039
was back to she was being raped, and he'd choke

1096
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:33.439
her out again. She would now also, once he was

1097
01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:38.439
done raping her for the second time, remain awake for

1098
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:42.720
the grand finale that he had planned. He was now

1099
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:47.000
satisfied sexually, but he still wanted to feel more control.

1100
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:51.239
He wanted to see the fear and the grief in

1101
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:56.239
her face. So that's when he decided to cut all

1102
01:08:56.279 --> 01:09:00.399
of the ties that bound her to the bed, ordered

1103
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:04.199
Lorrain up out of that bed, and he marched her

1104
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:08.680
down the stairs and into the very room where she

1105
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:14.479
realized Bill's lifeless and bloody corpse lay battered and crumpled

1106
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:19.439
on the floor. And I'm sure she wanted to run

1107
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:21.239
to him and try to save him and do what

1108
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:25.680
she could. But don't forget, she's injured too. And he's

1109
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:32.000
long past any help. So Israel drug that sobbing woman,

1110
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.600
this fifty five year old woman who has done nothing

1111
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:40.800
to Israel, doesn't even know him. He drug her over

1112
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:44.079
to a bench and he forced her down on it,

1113
01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:50.119
sit down, And now she sat there, seeing Bill completely

1114
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:54.199
and totally resigned to the fact that, oh my god,

1115
01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:59.520
this is reel. Israel approached her from behind and took

1116
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.920
the rope that he had in his hands, and he

1117
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:05.920
wrapped it around her neck, pulling at both ends as

1118
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:11.800
he twisted it as tight as he possibly could. Lorraine choked.

1119
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.560
She was gasping for air. She was trying to breathe

1120
01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:20.760
until she just couldn't fight back, and her head eventually dropped.

1121
01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:26.840
Yet the pressure of that rope remained until Israel was

1122
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:32.199
sure that he had strangled her to death, and then

1123
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.840
he released the tension from the rope and let her

1124
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:41.760
body drop to the ground. What a night. After he

1125
01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:45.920
caught his breath, he still had work to do, and

1126
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.880
so he drug both of the couple's bodies into a

1127
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:53.800
corner of that basement and dumped them together. Then he

1128
01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:56.439
went back out and he got that bottle of draino

1129
01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.439
that he had in his kil kit, and he went

1130
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:03.640
back inside and he poured that jug of draino all

1131
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:08.119
over their bodies. Now, the home was abandoned, nobody lived there,

1132
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.479
and it was full of junk and trash, and so

1133
01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:13.720
he collected debris and trash and just covered their bodies

1134
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.000
up with all the trash that he could find. And

1135
01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:20.840
once he was happy with his scene, he walked out,

1136
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:26.119
got in the car, and he drove away. He went

1137
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:30.640
back down that dark driveway and eventually back to the

1138
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:35.199
dumpster site where their vehicle was later found. And he

1139
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:38.439
admitted at that point that he had left his own

1140
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:42.119
vehicle at the dumpster first, and because he had plans

1141
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:44.560
that that would be the site that he would switch

1142
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:50.239
vehicles after he took his victim's captive. So, as you

1143
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:54.920
can imagine, investigators immediately jumped in their cars after this

1144
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.319
admission and they drove to the abandoned home to recover

1145
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:02.479
the couple. But when they arrived, there was a very

1146
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:07.720
big issue. The house wasn't there. It was just land,

1147
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:13.439
and records showed there had been a home there just

1148
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:19.359
a few months prior, in April, like two months prior,

1149
01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:23.359
the home had been there, but it had since been demolished.

1150
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:26.560
It was on a demolition list and all of the

1151
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:30.000
contents of the home had been demoed and hauled to

1152
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.920
a local landfill. There was no walkthrough done prior to

1153
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:36.640
the demolishing, so if their bodies were in that home,

1154
01:12:37.399 --> 01:12:40.359
they were hauled off without realizing it in the middle

1155
01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:44.359
of the rubble. So Detective George Mundy, he was the

1156
01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:47.880
person who received the phone call from Alaska that originally

1157
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:52.039
informed his department of Israel's claims to have killed the

1158
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:56.600
Courier couple. But without their bodies, it couldn't be verified.

1159
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:01.479
So there's a bigger issue here now. The FBI had

1160
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:07.720
spent twelve weeks after this, twelve weeks searching for their

1161
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:11.319
remains in this landfill, but they were never able to

1162
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:16.279
recover any of it. So Detective Mundy decided to speak

1163
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:19.800
with Israel and he wanted to validate. Okay, if we

1164
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:22.600
don't have bodies, then maybe I can get Israel to

1165
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:25.840
say things to me that only the killer would know

1166
01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:30.520
and that can validate that he really did this. So

1167
01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:36.680
he made the phone call and incredibly, when Israel Keys

1168
01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:40.239
got on the phone, the first thing he tells the

1169
01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:44.600
detective when their conversation starts is that he had no

1170
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:49.039
remorse for what he had done. He never would, And

1171
01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:53.800
then he started to recount in exact details all sorts

1172
01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:56.920
of things, including stuff that only the killer would be

1173
01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:02.600
able to know. So thet active got those admissions, which

1174
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was great, But he also went and followed up with

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the actual demolition crew of the farmhouse. And whenever he

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caught up with them and spoke to them, the workers

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said when they arrived to tear that house down, it

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smelled horrible. They said it smelled like something had died

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inside of it, but they never went in because they

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thought it was probably a dead animal or something. Because

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the house was abandoned, they didn't go inside. It smelled

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horrific just from the outside during the demolition. So all

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in all, that seems to validate that Israel Keys was

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in fact responsible for this couple's disappearance, and that he

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was responsible for the murder of both Bill and Lorraine Courier.

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And to this day, neither body has ever been recovered.

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Their final resting place remains the dump among unwanted household items,

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old food, and remnants of demolished property. It took a

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long time now, but the case of the missing couple

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had at least been solved and it was now considered closed.

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But these victims, the Couriers, they were just from this

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last year. Israel said that he had been a different

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man for fourteen years. So the interviews continued, as will

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this series one more episode to go. You now know

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in detail about Samantha Koenig's horrible death, and now you

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01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:38.880
know the reality of what Bill and Lorraine Courier had

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gone through. But Israel was still talking. And there were

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tons of unsolved cases in the US, cold ones, ones

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as cold as Israel's icy stare. But while the evidence

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may have dried up in many of these cases, Israel's

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ego never did. And while he may have never spoken

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before to anyone about his devious travel plans and these

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murders that he committed in the dark, now he had

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everyone's attention. He loved the thought of people fearing him.

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But now he's the one in custody. But he's in

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the custody of real men, men who are gonna play

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01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:21.000
him like a fiddle, leaning in listening to him war

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01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:24.439
story about all of his murders. But what Israel didn't

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know is that these men weren't actually interested in him.

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He was too proud of what he was saying to

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realize it. They were interested because they wanted to bring

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some sense of closure, to open cases, and to give

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room for families to finally breathe, to give justice to

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people who were still missing and who deserved to be found.

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But I still have more information on this guy. You're

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gonna get two episodes that drop this week, so look

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again tomorrow for the finale of this series. While Israel

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is smug and he's talking like he's the main character,

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the reality is he's just a tool. He's a means

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to an end. And while Israel loved the thought of

1221
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being a monster, no doubt, I mean, his smugness proved this.

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But while monsters get remembered, tools those get used and

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then thrown away. So guess which one Israel is