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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast. Or I tell
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stories of real crimes with real victims whose cases are
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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this
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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,
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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,
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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so
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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended
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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm
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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's
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kJ You're back for another episode of Unspeakable. What's going
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on with y'all? At the time that I am recording this,
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I'm in the throes of giving midterms at school and
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so things are very chaotic, But I have got a
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bang up episode for you today. Before I start it, though,
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I do want to let you know that quarterly gifts
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from my crime family members are going to be heading
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out this week. Please remember that because it's the holiday season,
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there are slower delivery times, so at the time that
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you're hearing this, I don't know if you will have
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gotten it yet, but it is coming your way. And
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sometimes I do have to mail them in waves. But
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look for those. I think they're precious and I worked
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hard on those. Unless you know you want them to
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be manly than they're manly, not precious, but look out
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for those. They're headed your way. And I also want
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to let you know I think I've already mentioned it
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that I'm on Cameo. Now, if you want to check
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that out, you can look for the app on your
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iPhone or whatever, find Cameo, and you can send me
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a request for a shout out, a special shout out
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with video specifically catered to your needs. And then, last
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but not least, I want to let you know that
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this episode will be the last episode of this season
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where to take a break for the week of Christmas.
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I want you to enjoy your family, friend's faith, and
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all of those things. And then at the beginning of
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next year, we are going to start out with a
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freaking bang. So don't be freaked out when you don't
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see a new episode drop. You're enjoying Christmas, and then
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the new season will begin right after that. Now, before
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I go any further, I do have shout outs that
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I have to do. And last episode I said hey
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to someone who had put just Hayden as her name.
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Well guess what she wrote me. So, Hayden, I'm gonna
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give you a few more seconds of my time because
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I thought it was so cute. She says, Hey, I'm
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the Just Hayden. I had no idea that you were
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going to be, you know, saying all this stuff to
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your listeners. But she's from Dublin, Georgia, and she lives
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in I think it's Tanil, Georgia. I don't know, y'all,
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don't come at me. And she owns a little coffee
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shop in Sandersville called Diesel Donuts. So I'm gonna go
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ahead and give you a little business shout out. So
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if y'all are in Sandersville, go to Diesel Donuts, and
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I want y'all to try him and just say kJ
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sent you there, even though it doesn't mean anything if
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you don't or if you do. But I'm just tickled
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by it. And Hayden is a woman, not a man,
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So if I said he sorry about that. But hey, Hayden,
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you're no longer just Hayden. You're Hayden with the Diesel Donuts.
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How's that? But I've also got Tallahassee Alabama in the
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house with miss Casey luster, Hey, case what's going on
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over there? What about in Jarrow, Louisiana with Haley Savoy
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ooh I like that Savoy. Yeah, how are you, Hailey?
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And then in Unice. Now, because I'm just ignorant, y'all,
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I thought this was gonna be Unice, Louisiana, and I
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got all crazy when I wrote it down, and then
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I went back and double checked. And did you know
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that there is a Unice, New Mexico Because I had
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no clue, but there is. And you know who lives there, Shelley.
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I don't have your last name, Shelley, but Shelley's there
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and I want to say hey to you, girl, how
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are you? And then right in Shelbyville, Tennessee, is Jenna Atkins. Hey, Jenna,
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what's going on? One of my good friends is named Jenna.
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I've said this before and in my phone I have
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her set as a Virgina and I think it's hilarious.
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But uh, hey, Jenna Atkins out there in Tennessee, I
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hope you're doing well. And then last but not least,
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I've got Miss Hannah Massy. Now Hannah is also gonna
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be from Georgia. How are you doing, Hannah. I hope
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things are going well over there in Thomister. I hope
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I said that right, Georgia, And I'm so thankful to
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have you supporting me and my show. Y'all are the difference,
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and you're the reason that I'm have way more content
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coming out as soon as I get through this school year. Okay,
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let me get started. I want you all to come
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with me to Barron County, Wisconsin. Now, if you've never
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been there, I haven't, so I checked it out and
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it says that it's got a long history there. It
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was established in eighteen sixty, but prior to that, it
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was one of the areas that the many thousands of
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Native Americans inhabited. It's filled with lakes and lots of
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forest area perfect for hunting and fishing, and even today
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that sentiment stands true. There's boating, there's camping, there's cross
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country skiing, fishing, golfing, and snowmobiling, which I've never done before.
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I want to try that. If my husband's listening, Blake,
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take Mama snowmobiling. But uh, I thought that was kind
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of cool. They've got this pioneer village museum, which has
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this replica of where like how the pioneers used to
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live and how they work, so you can go check
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it out like how it really was, and then you
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can try specialty foods there, like they have locally produced bison,
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which I've never tried. They've got cheese, and they have
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breweries that you can tour. So oh in all sounds
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like a great place to live if you're there, Hey,
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y'all got my respect. It sounds like a cool place
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to be. Now, some people just check it out. They
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call it home. And that was the case of James
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and Denise Closs, and both of them were lifelong residents
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of Wisconsin. They were a loving couple, having gotten married
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in June ninth of two thousand and three, and they
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did a little getaway wedding in Las Vegas, which I
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just think is so cool. There was a big age
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gap between them. By big, I mean maybe not major,
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but there was a ten year age gap between the
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two of them. But that meant nothing. Age is just
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a number, right. James was fifty six, Denise was forty six.
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And the word that comes to mind to me whenever
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I'm describing them, based on everything that I've read and
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seen is that they would the word in tune comes
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to me or the words in tune. They seem just
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to be so in tune with one another and just
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a good couple. They were in tune with one another.
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And they were no strangers to commitment. What do I
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mean by that? They were committed in their marriage, but
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they were committed at work. Matter of fact, both of
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them had worked at the Jenny O Turkey for twenty
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seven years. That's crazy. That's a good stint at one job,
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and that's dedication. So over I went it and looked
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up Genny O Turkey to make sure I knew exactly
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what I was talking about. And they do processing there,
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so they process whole turkeys, and they do deli meat
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and sausage and ground turkey and all that. Jazz James
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was a sports guy. His teams were the Wisconsin Badgers,
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and he also loved the Green Bay Packers, and I
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would have expected nothing less, if I'm being honest. One
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of his favorite things to do was to reminisce about
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his good old days. And he seemed to have had
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an amazing high school athletic career and so just going
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back on that was something that he just really enjoyed doing.
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And I can so identify with that feeling of remembering
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the wins and the camaraderie and the highs and the
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lows of competition. You know, I myself was an athlete.
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I played volleyball and basketball and softball. I ran track.
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I was on the LSU track team for a little while,
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throwing the javelin and so reminiscing about the glory days.
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I just totally understand where he's coming from, because we
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get older and those days, in those awesome moments, sometimes
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are fleeting after a while. He also had a loving family,
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his parents, He had his sister named Kelly, He had
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brothers Mike and Jeff, and then he had his wife,
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the love of his life, who he chose, and she
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was just as wonderful as he was. Her name was Denise,
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and from what I understand, was a woman's woman, And
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I think that is the greatest thing that a woman
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can say about another woman, is that she's a woman's
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woman and that she has a heart of gold. She
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enjoyed doing things that a lot of women in their
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forties like to do. She would tend to her flowers,
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she loved to go feed her birds outside. She loved angels,
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and most important, I would assume to her was the
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fact that she loved the Lord. She was an active
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member of Saint Peter's Catholic Church and Cameron and together
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the two of them had a daughter who they named Jamie,
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and both of them adored their baby girl. Now this
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next statement I'm gonna make I'm not one hundred percent
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sure about. And I did reach out to family members
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but did not have an answer at the time of
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this recording. But from what I understand, they also had
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a little missing piece of their heart in that there
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was a baby that died as an infant named James,
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and I believe that that was their baby. And if
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I'm wrong, I apologize. Just from what I gather, that
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is what I believe to be the case. But if
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not their child, there was a baby James who they
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did love, So shout out to baby James. Now Jamie
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will be thirteen years old at the time that this
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story takes place, and she is the absolute apple of
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her parents' eyes. They were steady, decent, good people, so
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it was an absolute shock when a nine to one
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to one call came from their residence on October the
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fifteenth of twenty eighteen. But all that the operator could
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discern from the call was screaming in the background. No
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words were making sense. It was jumbled, and it sounded
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terrible as they listened as as the operator listened in
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trying to figure out what was going on. The location
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that the call came from was determined to be just
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three miles from the nine to one dispatch center, which
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would have been off a highway eight. So as soon
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as the call came in and they were able to
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locate where the call was coming from, help was dispatched
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out and three deputies immediately turned on their lights and
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they raced towards that home. Deputies James Presley, Eric Saddani,
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and John Fick knew that they had to get there
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based on the screaming described by the dispatcher that had
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come through the line, So they were not going to wait,
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and they jumped in those vehicles and they hauled ass
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and they arrived to that house just a few minutes later,
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which was about one o'clock in the morning. Now, once
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they got to the home, the deputies approached the house cautiously,
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but they noted that the home was eerily silent, and
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it was also dark. It didn't seem like there was
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a lot going on considering the call that had supposedly
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come from the home. There was no movement, there was
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no screaming, there was nothing. The only thing that they noted,
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like I said, was that it was super dark. There
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were no outside lights on of the house. But as
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they kind of walked around to figure out what was
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going on, they could see one light that was a
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single light on in an upstairs window on the front
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of the home. So Deputy Presley told Deputy Sadani go
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and try to make contact with anyone in the home
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from the front while he walked around the back to
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kind of look for any signs of danger, if anyone
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was exiting the home or anything like that. He saw nothing,
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but he did notice again on the other side that
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that same light on the back side of the house
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was on from the upstairs. Now, the home was a
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modest one. It was a tannish color. Depending on which
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photos you look at, it either has a blue front
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door or a white front door. It doesn't really matter.
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But it is a modest home and it looks actually
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single level until you approach it and the driveway kind
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of curves around the back side of it, and then
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you realize there's a carport type area underneath, and it
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is actually two stories, but the lay of the land
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you can't really tell it's two stories until you come
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up on it. It had a front door, front door
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that had a glass storm door on it. So when
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Deputy Sadani kind of walked up there quietly, he shined
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his flashlight on the door, and it was really hard
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to see inside when he did that because there was
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very heavy condensation on that storm door. So as it
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got closer, he could tell that the wooden door behind
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this storm door was open, not all the way, but
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it was pushed open. And so as he looked the
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door up and down when he got closer, he could
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see that it was wedged open because a rug that
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was right inside the doorway had, you know, kind of