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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell
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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are
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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this
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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,
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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,
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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so
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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended
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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm
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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's
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kJ here and I'm back. I've got a great episode
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for you today. What is going on? If you are
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watching me right now podcast, you'll see I have this
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ridiculous contraption on my thumb because I hurt my finger.
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I hurt my finger and it's not a cool it's
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not a cool injury either. You would think I'd love
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to give you something awesome, but they said it was
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a texting thumb. As unsexy as that is. I'm like,
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for real, I text so much and I message so
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much that I've injured my thumb. So don't y'all tell me.
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I don't answer y'all's messages because it's true. I've got
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the texting thumb to prevent so ridiculous. All right, But anyway,
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I hope you're doing well. I hope your thumbs are
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just moving fluidly because mine sucks. But I'm gonna ask
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you to come with me today to California, California A
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and we're gonna be in the Lakewood north of Long
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Beach area, and this is where Bruce and Jenna Kochlic
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built their dream home. Jana was born on January first,
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nineteen sixty and in her family, she was an only child,
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but that was a perfect thing for their family because
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she was her parents absolute pride and joy. And as
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a young adult, her dream as she grew up was
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that she wanted to go to law school. She had
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been talking about this basically her whole life, that that
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is where she wanted to go and she wanted to
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be a lawyer. But that all changed when she met
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the love of her life, Bruce, and when they met
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and they decided that they wanted to get married and
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start their family, she abandoned those plans of becoming a
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lawyer and she decided, you know what, let's do something different.
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I want to be with you, and I want us
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to build this empire together. And so Bruce had dreams
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that he wanted to build a real estate business, and
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he knew in his heart of hearts that Jana was
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the one. She was the one that could help him
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to succeed because she had what he lacked. Because Jenna,
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she really enjoyed being in the background. She liked doing
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the computer work and the paperwork and all of that,
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while Bruce was really more of the personal side of it.
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He really pulled in with the public relations and got
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people's attention, and he liked being the face of this duo,
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and y'all it worked. She wanted her husband, Bruce to shine,
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and she did her best to put him in the
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best light. And their business was real estate. It was
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with the Remax Company, and their beach office was located
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right there in California in a nice little area, and
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they were starting up. As well as doing their real estate,
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which they were doing really well at, they also were
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working on a little side hustle that they were trying
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to start up a computer software company. So they had
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a lot of things going for them and they worked
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really hard together to build this dream of not having
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just one avenue of cash flow of having multiple businesses
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that they could own and that they could manage. Now.
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According to her colleagues, Jenna was a hard working woman,
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very hard working and described as meticulous too. She had
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a penchant for being punctual. She was always on time.
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She was always prepared and on task, and a very
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the book type of lady. Very professional, very prompt with
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her appointments, and downright just dependable. If you needed her,
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she was there. She was the one that you could
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count one. Now, let's talk about her for a minute.
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She stood five foot seven, one hundred and thirty pounds.
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She had long blonde hair with bangs. But her hair
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looked very consistent with that of like the late nineties.
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It had a little bit of poof to it, you
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know what I'm talking about, in those old school kind
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of like Barbie hairdoos with the longer hair kind of
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maybe had a little flip at the end and then
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the poofy little bangs. But she had blue eyes, very
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very very thick, full lips both top and bottom. She
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had very prominent lips, and I'd say that that was
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really her most prominent feature when you looked at her
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and they were natural. They weren't these duck lips of today.
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These were very natural, thick, nice lips. She was not
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a very heavy makeup wearer, but she absolutely cared about
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her appearance. She wore makeup, but just more of a
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natural tone. And another thing about her is that she
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loved to work out, and she liked to work out
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consistently because she wanted to look her best. She always
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wanted to do the best that she could do and
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be the best that she could be. Bruce Kochlitch's information
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from his younger years. As I was looking for his stuff,
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it was a bit more sparse. I had a little
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bit harder time finding information on him. But I can
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tell you that in his adult life he was very
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successful in business, and he liked it that way too.
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It wasn't like he was kind of in the background
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about it. He was very proud of the businesses and
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the life that he and his wife had built together.
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Jenna was a little bit shorter than Bruce. Bruce was
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obviously now taller than her. I'd say he's somewhere around
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five eleven. That's a guestimation. He's thin, and his features
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are all very narrow and pointed. He had a longer neck,
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very small eyes, his mouth was really really small, average
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average male haircut. He had brown hair, he would lightly
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gel it, and his front two teeth ever so slightly
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crossed in the front of one another. But when you
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look at him, he kind of looks like that guy
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that would work in technology or something really analytical. And
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I don't mean this meanly at all, but if you've
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seen the movie Napoleon Dynamite, Okay, not Napoleon, though, if
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you've seen Napoleon Dynamite, it's his brother. Do you all
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remember his brother? Love that dude, but he kind of
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looks like him, the brother in those movies. And if
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you haven't seen it, go look it up. I'm sure
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I'll put a picture on Facebook or something. But that's
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pretty much what he looked like. But they definitely fit
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together as a couple whenever you're looking at them. They
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had been married for eleven years at the time that
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this story took place, and their lives were very in
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tune with one another. They had similar goals and very
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similar interests, and that kept their love alive. And I
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guess you'd say that's a really good thing, because they
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spent most of their days all day together because they
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they worked together, they worked at the same company. They
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were very good with communication, They were dependent on one another,
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very codependent in their relationship. By day, they worked at
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the business that they built and grew together over the years,
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and by night they were snuggled in together at their home.
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And their home was a beautiful one located in a
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very prime area on a golf course. So they were
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doing well. I wouldn't say that they were overly flashy people,
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but they lived nicely and nothing about them seemed super
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over the top. If anything, their lifestyle seemed very low
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risk and very average American way of life and living.
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And that's why it kind of came as a surprise
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when Bruce filed a missing person's report for Jenna on Tuesday,
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August twenty first of two thousand and one. Literally, I
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went and I looked. Literally the week I started my
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senior year of high school, to be exact. Bruce called
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Jen as friend that she called her ninni, And that
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morning when he made that phone call, he was like, Hey,
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have you seen Jana. I can't. I haven't spoken to her.
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I can't find her. She had no idea where she
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could be what what can I do for you? Though?
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You know, her best friend was willing to help, to
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do anything to try to find her, and Bruce just
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really started crying and was like, you can tell me
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where my wife is. And it almost came across like
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maybe Nini knew something and wasn't wasn't telling him, but
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that just wasn't the case. She genuinely did not know
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where Jana was. But Jenna would normally show up at
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the office around nine ish in the morning, around nine o'clock,
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and their office was really close to their residence too,
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so it wasn't like there was a far commute for
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her to have driven. So the police arrived and they
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were now involved because no one could locate her. So
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they went and they checked the hospitals. They checked for
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any traffic accident reports that may have a woman that's
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un undetermined or or unnamed, but nothing. They couldn't find anything,
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and that's when a detective, her name was Karen Shanka.
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Karen came in and she spoke to Bruce to establish
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a timeline to at least work off of to determine
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when when's the last time anyone had seen her? And
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he said it was Monday morning. He was that morning,
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he said, I kissed her goodbye at six am. We're
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partners at our real estate agency. She usually would get
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here between nine and nine thirty, but she just didn't
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show up after about ten fifteen, maybe somewhere around ten thirty.
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He started asking around the office when Jana never showed up, like, hey,
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have you seen her? Has anyone talked to her? Nobody
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had spoken to her, And that's when he said he
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called her best friend and Ninni hadn't spoken to her either.
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Now they did have a business partner too. His name
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was Chris, And whenever all of this was going down,
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before the detectives or the police got involved, Bruce asked
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Chris to come with him to go look for her
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because he was extremely nervous. And so Chris went back
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to the house with Bruce to go and try to
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check on Jim. And when they got there, everything really
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was in order, but the car, her purse, and her
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cell phone were gone. But the thing was that the
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house alarm was set. It really seemed like she got
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all her shit together. She got ready that morning, then
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she left the house, set the alarm, and then went missing.
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So something had to have happened within that timeframe. And
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I know I've said this a million times, but most
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people that are called in as missing are usually back
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within twenty four hours. But this seemed like a very
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odd situation that may need more attention because of the
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situation and that she was definitely expected to be at
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the office and never made it there, So the questions
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kind of start coming to mind. You know, what was
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her mental state? Was she on any medication that may
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cause a problem, But none of that seemed to be
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an issue. None of that seemed to raise any red
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flags or or anything. So the police decided to back
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up even more and they wanted to trace her last
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known footsteps. So Friday, August seventeenth, Jenna went to an
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Eric Clapton concert with her best friend Nini, and they
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got home after midnight. Now they had planned at that time,
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she and Bruce had planned to have this relaxed weekend together,
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just the two of them, which is exactly what happened.
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And then poof, Monday morning, she never makes it to
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the office after she kisses her husband goodbye, So, needing
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more to go off of the police wanted to get
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into the house and look around. Maybe there was something
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that Bruce had missed that the detectives would be able
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to pick out or to see, and Bruce says, no problem.
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He gives full consent to search the home and the
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police look in every nook and cranny from the trash
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can contents to the caller ID on the phone. I mean,
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they left nothing unturned. And it turned out that something
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was going on at the house okay, and both spouses
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were aware of this, but the had become a problem
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at the house. Neither spouse was wanting to answer it
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because they had been getting these creepy voicemails from a
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male voice and it was really upsetting to Jana. The
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messages would say things like you know me, you need
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to call me, and then it would hang up, and
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neither of them recognized the voice. They even had their
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friends and their family listen to it, but nobody that
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they knew, and nobody in their inner circle could identify
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this voice. They really were at a loss about it.
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But it was very disturbing to Janna obviously was upsetting
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to Bruce, and so they weren't really answering the phone
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on the weekends because of that. So police took a listen,
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and they took notes, and they tried then to determine, Okay,
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are there any enemies that you as a couple may have,
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and this kind of evolved into something else. Okay, so
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when they wanted to know about the enemies, Jenna's father
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came into play here, not because he was the enemy,
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but because his name was Paul Carpenter, and he had
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been someone that was big in the state Senate. He
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was a state senator from California, and maybe they came
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to this conclusion that maybe someone had beef with him
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and had kidnapped Jenna to settle that beef or to
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hurt her father, because her father, Paul Carpenter, was very
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popular with the community that he served, but he had