The Notorious Kehoe Family

0:06 Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering how is this even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning, Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, kJ You're back with another episode of Unspeakable, and I need you to know this. If you're a Netflix watcher, Okay, I'm going to put you on point for something you may want to go watch after you listen to this episode, because it actually ties in so right now, it's a newer episode as of the time that I'm recording this, but it's called Oklahoma City Bombing American Terror.

1:20 So if you have time after you listen to this episode, go. Watch that because it ties in beautifully with this episode. It's related, but not directly, and so I was tickled when I saw it on TV and I said, dang man, the people might want to know that, So go watch that if you have time. After you listen to this episode. Now I have a couple of shout outs that I want to do, but this is a little bit different set of shout outs because this is not from Patreon. These are people that in the last couple of weeks have taken such good care of my mom at our lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center right there on Essen Lane, and I hope that everyone who works there, only Onlogy floor, who was in the ICU, all of these people get to hear this, and I hope that you'll share it if you know anyone that works there, because a lot of these nurses came forward to me after they saw my name as an emergency contact from a mom and just were so pleasant and said they listened to the show. So I specifically want to give first of all, the home health nurse that came today, Miss Melissa Jernigan. I hope that you know how much I appreciate everything you've done for me. And she's also a mother of I think she had six boys and all of them in different military so some of them were an army, Navy, she had marine. She has a son that's living in Guam right now, and that's just awesome.

2:39 These are these people are the front lines of everything we need. We've got our military guys, and then we've got our medical people on the front lines, and I just think so much of them. So miss Melissa, I'm waving to you on camera right now and thank you so much for all that you did, as well as mister Paul and miss Lisa. Now Lisa's name, tax said Jennifer. Okay, she said her name was Lisa, so maybe she's in witness protection. I don't know. But mister Paul's from England and miss Lisa works. They're both occupational therapist and we just had the best conversations and he's going to start listening to my podcast. We had a long talk about JFK everything. So to all of those people, to everyone that's helped my mother, even if I don't say your name, thank you so much, and please share this episode so.

3:21 They can hear me. Give you that shout out because it means a lot to me. So this episode, though, guys, we're going to Arkansas. We're gonna go to Tilly, Arkansas, and this is going to be in Pope County, which is at the time. I'm sure it's grown since, but a very small area and a place where everybody knows everybody. And I know that sounds cliche, but it's true. It's one of those places. And there was a woman that lived there by the name of Arlene Peterson, and she showed up at the police station because she was unable to find her daughter. She couldn't get her on the phone. Not only that it was weird, she couldn't get her daughter's family to make contact with her, try and call in and and it's just very, very odd. So her daughter's name was Nancy, and Nancy was married to her husband, William. He went by Bill, so you may hear me say William or Bill throughout this episode. And they had a daughter. She was eight years old and her name was Sarah. Now their daughter wasn't biologically, I guess a true statement, because Bill was Sarah's stepdad, but that was her dad. Nonetheless, because Bill and her mother, Nancy, had been together ever since Sarah was just an infant. Bill was working as an electrician when he originally met Nancy, who was the single mom that they worked together, and instantly he became smitten with Nancy. They got along really well, and then very quickly just became inseparable at the job and then off the job as well. Now there was a bit of an age gap between these two. Bill was fifty two,

4:53 Nancy was only twenty eight, but it didn't bother them in the slightest. They would quickly get married and their life was one that I think we all would hope for. They were not rich by any means financially, but if you consider love and a house full of joy, even if you're not rich in finances, that's rich in and of itself a different type, and they had that. They were very responsible people, and so the fact that they weren't returning calls, the fact that Nancy hadn't spoken to her mother for an extended period of time, was very very telling that something was a miss and it hadn't just been a few days, one or two days. No police were told by this point that Miss Arlene showed up that it had been two weeks now that she had not been able to get in touch with them.

5:46 So they immediately went to the home of the family. Now Nancy and Bill their last name was Mueller. Some people have said this as Muller. I'm gonna say Mueller because that's what majority of the time that I've done researching how it was said in some news articles and things of that nature. So they went by the Mueller home and they weren't there. They didn't answer. They were doing a welfare check. Okay, cool. So police then went and spoke to neighbors that lived nearby. Nothing they had nothing to add. But whenever they spoke to close family friend, this was a doctor. Her name was doctor Denise Marx. She had a little insight that may assist in a better location where they may could start looking for this family. Because Denise looked at Nancy and Nancy's daughter Sarah as.

6:38 Kind of her own kids. They were that close and the last time that she saw Nancy was on January the fifth, and during that meeting, when they were talking, Nancy said that they were planning to go to Springdale for a gun show that was being held. Now this wasn't out of the norm. This was actually quite common because Bill was a well known gun dealer, so they often would go and frequent these gun shows where he would buy guns, he would sell guns. He also traded weapons, and he sold other things to like ammunition and things that go along with guns, you know, gun accessories. And he was legit too. I want to make sure that I'm clear about that. He was a licensed dealer with the Feds and everything, so this was a legitimate operation that he did. So police decided to look in that direction, but no tips came from that, and no leads came from it as well, and a month would pass and the police were still now no closer to solving the just poof disappearance of an entire family.

7:42 It was really. Just just odd, is not the right word. Families don't disappear, not whole families for sure. So that was until a local landowner who was working on his property contacted police because he was out in an area that wasn't quite one that he frequented, and he ended up finding a jeep as well as a trailer, like a pull behind trailer, hidden on his land under some brush. Now it's kind of weird to say a car and a trailer were hidden under brush. It was kind of a poor attempt at hiding him, but you know, there were big branches and stuff that were covering it. So when the police got there, they first recognized Okay, well, this is about forty five minutes from where Tilly is and that's where the Mueller's home was. But whenever they ran reports on these vehicles, it came back that this was the Mueller's trailer and their vehicle. So the area of the land was also noted to be off road and not an easily accessible area for someone to pull up and just park.

8:49 And the trailer that was attached to the jeep, well, that was the one that Bill used whenever he would transport all of his gun inventory for the shows, whenever they would go to them. So first things first, they wanted to open up the trailer and see what all equipment was in there and see maybe had he sold stuff and then on his way back parked it or what all was was their equipment wise, but that would be just fruitless because whenever they swung the door open to the trailer, it was completely empty. There was nothing in it, It was absolutely wiped out. That being the case, this seemed to be proof that something was very amiss here.

9:30 Because I don't care how good of a gun dealer you are, I don't care how good of a business owner you are. No one sells all of their inventory in one show. That just doesn't typically happen. So the police then said, all right, well, let's look in the jeep and see what we can find in there, and that would bring about another huge red flag, and that would be because it was Nancy's purse that was located in the vehicle. Now, no woman alive. Myself included, We're not going to leave our purse behind willingly, especially when it still contains our wallet, our cigarettes. Not I don't smoke, but I know smokers, and I ain't leaving those damn cigarettes behind. And all of her like daily things that she would use were still in the purse.

10:17 That's not good. But it was important to note that the police also did not readily find any evidence of any obvious foul play. So I mean, there was no blood, there was no hair, no notable damage or anything of the property. So it was possible that the trailer had been cleaned out by the Mullers and then they parked it on this random property. Everything is open for possibility when you don't know what the hell is going on. Something about Bill too, that I want to note and I want to bring up, is that he had a very strong belief in the anti government mentality. And this was not just people who were like, I don't like the government. Okay, now, this is a pretty pretty strong anti government sentiment. And that being said, he was one that did not readily want his whereabouts nor his dealings to be tracked. He stayed very very private. He did not promote what all he did.

11:22 You know, I'm guilty. We're all guilty nowadays of Facebook. I mean, you can find people these days. I don't care if you're you're not even good at being a detective. You can find. People these days because we're all so self absorbed and we think that people care about our lives and we post all the time what we're doing. But Bill would not have been that person. Now, this is back in the nineties, so Facebook wasn't a thing, but he still was not that person. So was it a possibility. That the Mulers had hidden their vehicle in an attempt to go really off grid while they were doing something else. It really was a possibility that dot was the case here. It was very much considered. But if so, even if they were going off grid, you still wouldn't leave your purse.

12:09 That's just crazy. Something that would immediately also tie you to that vehicle if someone were to find it, would you wouldn't do that? Or would you maybe to stage your own disappearance or something along those lines, But then again, why would you want to stage your own disappearance? But either way, police knew that they weren't being found, and so these missing persons investigations for this family became official, especially since, like I said, it's an entire family that vanished seemingly without a trace up until now that they found the purse and they found the vehicle and the trailer, so they decided to look more intrinsically into these these people's lives.

12:53 And what they found was that Bill and Nancy were very happily married. There was nothing found to even dispute that fact. Miracle. Marital discord was ruled out very very quickly when looking into their family. Also, Sarah was a very happy child, very happy, no known causes for concern in that realm either. She was described as energetic, very happy, curious kid, obsessed with horses, a horse lover, and she was your typical eight year old little girl, small and sweet. She had this blonde hair that went about shoulder length. She had those bangs that we all had, well, I didn't, damn it.

13:36 I have this curly hair. They couldn't cut me bangs. But my sister had the exact same bangs right across the forehead. And she cheased super big in her pictures. That Chris Farley, you remember Chris Farley, how you cheese real big, that type of grin. She had a cute little nose on her and just a good, good little girl. Bill, like I said, was in his fifties and that big age gap of nance's sor of course, but you know, they found out a lot about him. He had served in Vietnam. He was in the army. He had reached the rank of sergeant. So this guy had military experience. It wasn't like he was some homeless bomb or something living on the streets. He was a thin guy, clean cut, and when he smiled, y'all, he had this one tooth in the front that was ever.

14:23 So slightly crooked over the other tooth. But Nancy did not notice that because that was her beloved and he was perfect in her eyes. He would alternate between clean shaven and then sometimes he would have a longer beard, and I thought his beard was kind of cool looking. Because it was two toned. It was a brown beard that matched the hair on his head. But on either side of that beard there were perfect, two perfect white patches on either side of his chin, so it was kind of a unique look whenever he would grow that beard out. Now, looking at Nancy, Okay, no, lie, all right. Depending on the photo that you look at, she looks so much like the mother on that show Nineteen Kids in Counting. Y'all remember that show. If you want a visual about people, when I tell stories, Okay, my mind automatically builds this picture.

15:19 It creates a person in my mind. And that's why I love giving y'all descriptions of people as I tell the story, so you can build it in your mind too and just kind of have a picture of what is going on as I tell it. Now, Nancy, she was twenty eight years old. She too had brown hair. She carried herself in a very natural appearance. She had that feathered out bangs look that was really common during the nineties. She had a prominent brown freckle on her lower left jaw and a very simple, simple look about her. She did not make much of a fuss in terms of her appearance. She was so proud too that she was Sarah's teacher. She was homeschooling her own daughter rather than sending her to traditional school, and so Nancy and her daughter followed bills every lead. And they were a very simple yet tight knit family. So that should kind of give you the feeling about what these people were like.

16:21 So investigators, now seeing that the family was happy, were curious that if maybe the family had any enemies or any big conflict with anyone, maybe that could explain what was going on here. So they went through and they pulled the police records to see if there was anything that might stick out about this family. But nothing stood out. There was only one report that was made that did catch their attention, and this report was made in nineteen ninety five because while the family was away at one of those gun shows, their home was burglarized. Now, when I say burglarized, you know back then maybe a VCR would get stolen or a TV or something along those lines, but this was a pretty substantial burglary. The things that were stolen from them included coins because he also sold coins, very valuable ones at these gun shows. Cash was taken stacks of cash that he had and a lot of weaponry.

17:19 The total loss of that burglary was upwards of fifty thousand dollars. However, it had remained unsolved. So while this was important to note that someone had been in their home without their knowledge, it didn't really help much. It could have just been a stroke of luck really that these burglars cashed out big time on this home. But for now, the missing family was on the radar of police, but really no word on their whereabouts. So we're going to fast forward now four months from the time that this really was investigated by police, and so it's now summer and we're in June, June twenty eighth to be exact, and out on the water of Lake Dardnell, which is in Pope County, a man and a woman were out fishing, just regular pastime. And Lake Dardnell, by the way, it's eighty miles eighty miles south of where the mull Er home would be. And this lake is huge, by the way, it's forty thousand acres. But it's also situated on a state park, so it's a very active place where this waterway is. People like to fish and hike and camp all that sort of thing. In this area, but there's also these tributaries that feed the lake in more rural areas of that waterway. So the woman that's on the boat is stoked when she hooks a big fish. I mean,

18:50 both of them actually were super excited when she hooked this one. It was heavy and they weren't sure at one point, you know, is this a fish or not because of the weight of it. But either way, this was a good catch, and so she reeled and she reeled and she reeled. But when that fish finally broke the top of the water, she damn near. Fell out of the boat. But it wasn't because of this massive fight of the fish. No, No, it was because when the water tension broke and that fish came through the top, she realized she was not looking at a fish.

19:31 She was looking at a human's leg. Two tennis shoes actually tied together, with the bone flapping out. Of the shoes. Now, this kind of stuff is more likely to happen in a scary movie than in real life. But this time, y'all, it was real. And it was shocking to see that, especially when you're expecting a fish. So they immediately pulled anchor. They headed to shore. They ran into the nearest convenience store, again before cell phones, and they called police, who arrived within minutes. So the police launch, they go out and they are able to locate the leg, and they immediately recognize that it was hardly intact. Okay, so when the phone call comes in, I'm sure it was oh my god, we pulled up a leg in a shoe. Well, the truth be told, it was really just the bone. It did have some flesh attached to it, and there were two shoes there, but the leg was not in good condition at all. They could tell primitively there that this was the leg of an adult female. So the sheriff decides to organize a thorough search of the water to try and recover the remainder of this woman's body. So the divers go down and they start searching. I have a friend that does this, by the way, I should have him one. Y'all talk to me. You think I should have him on because he has recovered many bodies underwater, and that to me is just freaky, but it's a job that we have to have. Unfortunately, But the divers

21:03 go down and they're able to locate the body, so they come up with the body and then are baffled to realize that this is a whole different body. This is not the remainder of the body they were looking for. It's a whole different person. This body was of a young female child, so when she was brought up from her watery grave, the reality of what this child had been through was very It was kind of a stoic situation that everybody's looking and realizing that this was devastating what this kid had gone through. She was badly decomposed and her last moments on earth had to have been just pure torture because she still had a plastic bag duct taped around her little head. So who could have done this to this little girl? Who hurts a kid, y'all?

22:00 Who does that? And not to mention, now, we've got a partial adult female's body that was pulled out of the water, So they weren't expecting this, but they continued to search for the remainder of that woman's body. When she was finally located and again brought her to the surface, much to their shock, again it wasn't that woman. It was another body. This body was one of an adult male. And I know you're like, damn, this must be a dumping ground, you know, of this highly used waterway.

22:40 But yeah, that this was not the norm. This wasn't someplace where you know, the cartel's running around dumping bodies left and right. And they thought they were going to pull one woman out, and now they've pulled up two additional people. Again, this body was badly decomposed as well, but it was still wearing an army style jacket. So that body, although wearing a jacket and badly decomposed, the wrist of this male body held a big clue because still clicked around this bone of the arm was a handcuff. So what in the world was going on here?

23:22 They did eventually find the remainder of the original female's body that they were trying to recover, and when they got her, it was determined that her hands had been zip tied together as well as her ankles, and that's why the shoes were still together. And her head was recovered again, she too had a bag still taped around her head. So the question then became, well, wait a minute, why did these bodies all remain at the bottom of the water, Because typically when you throw bodies in water, they will sink at first, I mean, because they're naturally more dense than water. But as decomposition begins, the bodies produce gas, they bloat, they swell, and that's when that increased buancy causes bodies to float to the surface. And that's typically when we find I had to use the word floaters, but that's what we find. But these three bodies had never floated to the top. They had remained at the muddy bottom. So why and how did this all go down? Well, the answer was simple. All of the bodies had large rocks attached to them. I don't want you to think a large rock like that fits in your fist I'm talking about. I would use the word boulder, I guess, but it's not a huge boulder off of a mountain, you know what I'm saying. It's that size rock, a big one. And clearly these rocks had been attached to them and used like an anchor to make them sink and hopefully whoever did this and wanted them to remain out of sight forever, but time

24:53 was taken to do this. The large rocks were on the chests of the bodies, and then whoever did this had wrapped the arms of the victims around the big rocks like it was giving it a hug, and then they used tons of duct tape to wrap around the arms and the rocks and the body to make sure that it remained in place. But too bad decomposition did do its job, because the bodies started to fall apart and that plan ultimately failed. Not to mention that the fishermen really did a solid on this one by pulling up the woman's legs, My point in telling you that someone took the time to do this is because this was three people where a lot of time was taken, and preparation to kill these people was obvious. There were tools necessary to pull this off. Bags, duct tape, handcuffs, and zip ties. All of that is not something Those aren't items that are just going to be handy in like a surprise attack. Okay, and no one usually takes out a whole family in a surprise attack without further preparation. So, as you've surely assumed by this point, yes, the bodies were confirmed to be that of the entire Muller family.

26:15 The remaining clothing that was on the bodies that I mentioned, plus dental record comparison, is how they were able to confirm it, so the coroner then would be the one to make the final determination as to their causes of death. Suffocation in and of itself is horrible enough, Okay, to suffocate with a bag over your head is just horrific. That's why they put it in scary movies, because no one wants to suffocate to death. But more evidence would be found that would point to torture of these people, specifically little Sarah. The findings of the coroner showed that this torture was done with something to the effect of an electric cattle prod while they were still alive. So this made the murders even more confusing, because first of all, who is the target?

27:10 Was it Sarah? Was Sarah prodded with a cattle prod or was it the whole family that was a target? Or was Sarah just a unfortunate casualty along with her parents? You know, this was still up in the air. What I can tell you is that Sarah and Nancy, according to the reports, were not raped, so sexual motives seemed to be ruled out. Now I do question how they found that because this these bodies were badly decomposed, but obviously it can be done, but I'm not going to spend a lot of time on that. It does. It is a question. In my mind. My assumption would be that your ligaments and some tissues still remained, and so an eight year old girl would be expected to have a hymen intact. And I'm sure that they could they could tell that if that was or not. But if at first you would think that this may have been sexual in nature, well it didn't seem to be. And so police were really stomped. Why were these people targeted and murdered? Well, friends and family when they found out, they were in disbelief as this news broke, because a whole family was wiped.

28:17 Out, and so they had no answers either. They could not point any direction, They had nothing to say that this was. I don't know, expected to happen or something like that. So police now had to determine their course of action by identifying what were the concrete gnomes in this case. So that's where they started. While all of these deaths were horrible, killing kids is uncommon. Now you're like, well, damn, Kelly, you've been dropping episodes left and right where kids have been hurt. You're right, but it's not common, I assure you, And it takes a very special type of monster to torture and kill a child and then to assumingly remain unaffected.

29:01 And I say this because no one had turned themselves in due to regret and said, oh my god, I've I heard this kid. This is a special type of monster. That's a known. Another known is that this was planned and premeditated, like I said, because the bags and tape and all that, it was not a surprise attack. Third, the victims were restrained, all of them, and so this became a known to police in terms of their belief that there had to be more than one suspect involved here, because clearly the family wouldn't have just sat there as one person was restrained having bags put over their head, and then you know, watch their family members have bags put over their head. I have a hard time, I'm hard pressed to believe that they would just sit there and watch that happen.

29:52 Police agreed. And also to that point, someone had to take the time to hide the Muller's vehicle, meaning so someone else must have driven to that point while the car was hidden and then picked up whoever drove the Mueller's vehicle, Because they didn't drive two of cars at the same time. One person can't do that, so multiple suspects were believed to be a known here now victimology would also bring out additional lists of nons. Number one of the victimology was that Bill was a well known gun dealer, so his empty trailer to police now was believed to be either a robbery or a burglary or something along those lines.

30:37 Bill's dead. Bill didn't take his own shit. Another known victimology here is that lots of people that go to these gun shows back in the nineties, specifically because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. I go to gun shows today. I love to go. Look, but back in the nineties. There were some things that were kind of commonplace about gun shows and people who frequent the frequented those and that's that people from all over would travel to come to these shows, and they were more kind of sketch back then. They were sketchy types of events. I'm not saying that the people were sketchy. I'm just saying the way that these shows were kind of handled back then, it wasn't quite as legitimate as it is today in terms of business I guess. So that meant that these victims would have come in contact, presumptively with a lot of people from a lot of places, and as such, this would mean that the police needed a bigger, more broad netting of help be brought in. And since Bill was a gun dealer, local police said, look, we've got to involve the ATF in this alcohol, tobacco and firearms.

31:49 The ATF so. While they worked that angle, a warrant was also being executed for the Mueller's home. But y'all, this would become a huge problem, all right. Remember by this point the Mueller family had been missing for months and months and months. It wasn't like days. Well, it turned out that the Mullers did not own their home. They rented where they lived. And so this meant that whenever they had stopped paying their rent because obviously now they're dead, that months would go by where they didn't pay their rent. Well, the landlord who owned that property, he didn't know they were dead, so he needed to be able to still make money. So, as you can understand, I hope he cleaned out their belongings from the house. Now he was kind enough to not just throw it at the road. He did go place all of their items in storage, but in terms of a potential crime scene that was shot to hell.

32:48 He had rented out the property to somebody else. Can you imagine how disheartening that must have been for investigators? But I get it. You know, you've got to make money. These people could have just run away. Nobody knew at that time that they were dead and at the bottom of a lake. So while this was obviously a huge blow to the case, it's also a very sad reminder that the world keeps turning. Even when people's lives are turned upside down, or even when people's world stop, the world keeps turning. That said, investigators couldn't just quit. This is huge. Someone murdered a whole family, So they decided to go get the belongings and moll through boxes and boxes of personal belongings to see could they drum up anything that might be of any lead value. So I will sum it up for you, because it took a long time and there was a lot of shit they looked through.

33:45 But what they did come upon was an empty case, like a storage case for a Colt forty five. And I can't even say Colt forty five without wanting to sing COLT forty five and two zig zags, baby, that's how we need so. I had to sing it for you. But that has nothing to do with this case. But that empty case of the CULT forty five did become super important because there was a serial number on that case that would have gone with the missing gun. Okay, well, remember I told you Bill was a legitimate dealer, federally licensed, so that meant that a lot of his inventory was likely entered into what we call in CIC. Now you may not be familiar with this, so just real quickly.

34:30 In CIC is the National Crime Information Center, and this is a database that's used by law enforcement for a multitude of things. Typically in CIC we run to see if someone has a warrant or something like that, but it also could be used to potentially track firearms if they were used in a crime, or if they showed up at a pawn shop or something like that. So investigators flagged that specific gun with that serial number, and so if it showed up at a pawnshop or if it was I was using a crime, then it would ding the system. I guess ding isn't probably the legal term, but it would flash up and maybe then they could reverse engineer and see where was that gun. Now, there was nothing that came up at that moment, but they did it. In another box, they found tons of family photographs. Okay, well, great, okay, whoopedie do? There were pictures of family and friends and all sorts of whatever. But one picture, to an investigator, stood out. And I'm almost grinning when I'm telling you this, because this is such good police work.

35:37 This is so good. There was nothing about the photo that stood out as in terms of what the picture was. Okay, it was a picture of Bill with Sarah and just two other men. But the reason that the officer or the investigator really took note of it was because it was a much newer photo as compared to all of the other photos. They were a lot older. Okay, and so these men in that investigator's mind, well, since the pictures really of newer times, well then those men must know the Mullers, or at least be more currently involved in their lives. That was the thought process there.

36:20 I don't even know if I would have thought that way, but this guy did. This investigator did, so he took that picture as part of his evidence. So while they're looking at this and there's not much to really be looking at, a report came back from the crime lab. So during the autopsy, duct tape that had been placed around the family's mouths and around their heads, it had been sent for testing at the crime lab, and in that duct tape, the crime lab found tiny little flakes of blue paint stuck in the glue of the duct tape. Now this is a very small ye because all it really did in that moment was say, okay, well there's a paint color of a potential vehicle, maybe that the body was the bodies were transported in. Not a huge, I guess find, but it is at least something blue. Okay, there had to be something blue involved here, but it would become very important because all paint has its own chemical makeup, its own chemical compounding. So what they decided to do was to take that paint and submit.

37:32 It to the FBI. Because the FBI was. Able to put that chemical compound into their database and identified that that blue paint was specific to a general motors vehicle. Well there were a lot of those around, but still again it was something to consider. So an additional month would pass when out of the blue, no pun intended, a hit came back in NCIC for that missing cult forty five from that empty case. Where did this hit come from? Well, that gun was found during a typical traffic stop. So this traffic stop that was done was on a man by the name of Travis Break And Travis, by the way, was no stranger to law enforcement.

38:23 He was already a convicted felon. Well, newsflash here, convicted felons are not supposed to be in possession of a firearm. That's a big no no. That's why we have a law called felon in possession of a firearm. So when they found the gun during the stop, it was put in the database. And now not only did we have a felon in possession of a firearm, but we have a felon in possession of a dead man's firearm. So obviously this guy had some explaining to do. How, sir, did you a felon come to be in possession of a presumed stolen gun from a dead man. So they went to the Seattle jail and the ATF agents interviewed him, but he gave up a story like butta like he just started coming out with it. He said, look, yes, I did get this gun.

39:14 I bought it from a private seller at a gun show. Well, obviously alarm bells are going off here, so they were like, all right, well, tell us about it. Who did you buy the gun from? And he was like, I don't know the guy's name. It was just a dude selling a gun. But when he was pressed about this alleged private seller, he said, look, I mean I can tell you what the guy looked like. He didn't just say well, I don't know who it is. He said, I can tell you what he looks like. They're like, all right, we'll do tell Then he said, all right, well he's a white guy. He was middle aged. And then the specifics he gave where that the guy looked like a backwoods hillbilly. So they're like, okay, that's your description of the dude, a hillbilly, that's what you're gonna give us. He said, well, hang on a second. The reason I'm telling you this is because when I bought the gun, the guy just did not look like he was from the Seattle area to me, which is where he bought the gun, because of the way he was dressed. He didn't fit the bill I guess of what Seattle person would look like.

40:10 And this, again, is gonna be another example of beautiful police work because on a total hunch, nothing more than a just gut instinct by a good investigator, he pulled out the picture that he found of Bill and Sarah and those two men, and he turned the picture around in front of Travis's brake and he said, was it, by chance one of these men? So Travis looked it over, shook his head yes and said, yep, that's him. They said, are you sure? He nodded yes. He was adamant that the guy on the far right of the photo was the guy he bought the gun from at a gun show. And you're like, okay, well, okay, he bought the gun great from Bill.

40:55 And it's perfect. Here's the thing, guys, Bill was on the far left of the picture. So investigators now felt like they had a suspect. It's this unknown man on the far right. The thing was, they had no clue who he was. So they went to a more grassroots movement here. They started knocking on doors. They were asking people in this tight knit community where of the Muellers came from. Do you recognize this man by any chance, And sure enough someone recognized him and was able to give a first and last. Name of this man. He said, Yeah, I know that guy. That's Kirby Keyho.

41:40 Jim. Did you see what happened in Texas today? Wait before you tell me that, let me tell you what happened in New York. It cannot be as crazy as the case I told you about yesterday in Louisiana. You know what, we should do a podcast about it, and with that we did. Crime Wire Weekly covers the crime news headlines that have dominated the week. We cover trending crime from all over the country and even sprinkle in a few globally. Crime War Weekly is available now wherever you listen to your podcasts, simply by searching Crime War Weekly or clicking the link in the description of this podcast. So Kirby Keyhoe, tall, white man, thin build, He had a beard and a mustache, and he does fit the hillbilly vibe. Now he was married, though, he was married to his wife named Gloria, And so the connection between the couples at this point was actually really easily made because the Muellers were living in close proximity of their friends the key Hose and Gloria Keyhoe and Nancy Mueller were friends. Matter of fact, the key Hoose babysat Little Sarah, so the connection was easy to make once someone gave the name. So you're thinking, okay, well, great, that's not a huge lead. But there was another element to Kirby that had him already on the FBI's radar,

43:11 and he had been for a while because just a lot much like Bill, he was a very anti government person and he too believed in living off of the grid. But here's the. Kicker about Kirby. He was also an extreme white supremacy extremist. I know, I use the word twice, but he was an extremist and believed in the white power movement. He also had a criminal record and he had a very violent side. So this guy, he was someone they wanted to pay attention to. The entire keyho family may have looked like a bunch of ignorant ass Hillbillies, okay, but they operated much like a crime syndicate, a plethora of violence, thefts, racketeering type charges amongst all of them.

44:07 So in July of nineteen ninety. Six, the FBI was really focusing in on Kirby Kiho. But they really had no proof of anything to do with like the Muller's murder, but they did decide to put him under a continual surveillance because of his extremist ways. Now, in the meantime that that is going on, we're gonna have to shoot eight hundred miles away to another state, and that's South Dakota. So in South Dakota, a state trooper is again doing his regular duties during his shift, and he affects a traffic stop. I guess I really shouldn't say traffic stop because he didn't pull the guy over.

44:47 It turns out there was a man sleeping in his vehicle when it caught the trooper's attention, and so he pulled over behind the car and he approached with extreme caution. Now why am I saying he approached with extreme caution. Well, I'd be lying if I didn't say that the trooper noticed a whole bunch of white supremacy propaganda in terms of like a bumper sticker and stuff like that. It was on the vehicle as he approached. Now, I want to tell you something right now. I know race is hard. People don't like talking about race. But I'm gonna tell you this, I don't care if I'm a white person. If I am approaching in a law enforcement setting, someone who appears to be a white supremacist, I'm not comfortable.

45:35 Me being a white cop does not make me more comfortable. Why because these types of people are often going to be promoting this Nazi white power crap, but they're very anti government, and so that means even if you're white, if you're a cop, they don't like you. So just be you know, that doesn't make any one rest easier, even if you're of the same race. And history matters here. Okay, And this is why I brought up that y'all might want to go watch that documentary. It's gonna be loosely, but it's gonna be tied to this episode. It's because at this timeframe, I want you to remember that the Siege at Waco was still a very fresh event. Now, if you're younger, you may not know this, but the Siege at Waco was huge, and if you're a history person, go check it out. If you don't know about it, it's really an interesting story. But if you're not. Briefly, I'm going to tell you the siege at Waco was a group of these It's a religious group that was very anti government and they ended up having a shootout with the FBI and it was a huge ordeal nationally.

46:43 But go research it if you want to know more. That said, these white power anti government people were known threats to law enforcement, and this trooper was on high alert because of all of that propaganda that he saw. Approached and he knocked on the window and he woke up the sleeping man that was inside of the vehicle. So once the guy woke up, he wanted identification. And this guy's name was Sean Haynes. Now Sean is this young, punk looking dude, shaved head, but he's got that that beard that's under the under the chin and kind of has like a skinhead look about him.

47:24 Well not kind of, he does. So while they're this trooper's talking to him, he says, hey, do you have any guns in the car? And the driver says yes. So when we asked that question, I'm kind of expecting you'd be like, oh, yeah, I have my pistol. Or I have you know, like a three eighty ors whatever in my glove box. What they were not expecting was a Bushmaster AR fifteen. So whenever he said, yeah, I've got this gun, they ran it through that NCIC and wouldn't you know, it came back as stolen. Not only was it stolen, but it was one that was in Bill Mueller's collection. So based on this, Sean Hans was arrested and guess what, he drove a blue suburban. So atf is at this point thinking, bingo get some paint samples, send it off to the crime lab, and so they did just that to see if it matched the paint from the Mueller duct tape. But a strange turn of events, there were results were that it was not a match. It just was coincidence that this was in blue vehicle. But either way, while he was in custody, he had some explaining to do.

48:36 Why are you in possession of this vehicle? And he readily fessed up where he got it from. He said, I met a man at a motel in Washington State. He identified it as the Shadow Motel and he said, while there, I traded rifles with this guy at the motel and the guy had introduced himself as Keyho. But through further iding, they would realize investigators would realize it was not Kirby Keyo that. He was dealing with. It was his twenty one year old son, Chevy Keyho. Now, Chevy and Kirby had a very unique relationship because he openly admitted that Chevy was his favorite son. What kind of parent would let all of his kids know, I don't like you that much that one's my favorite. I'll just say that. But Chevy acted most like his father.

49:39 He embraced that extreme white supremacist lifestyle where aggression and violence and fear were taught to him as the ways of life, and he really embraced that teaching. And he too was short tempered. This guy was not a joke. Okay, He was committing burglary, extortion, He promoted hate crimes, all of which his father was very proud of. His son was following in his stead as sick as That is. So, basically, they had formed an enterprise known as the Aryan People's Republic and Chevy was the ringleader of all of this.

50:22 So what was this all about? Well, they believed that whites were the chosen race and that the Bible justified violence. So the group also had this belief overall that if they could kill a large number of judges and police officers, then this mass chaos would ensue. And in that mass chaos, since all of the people that have quote unquote the power judges and cops, I guess during that chaos they would be able to assume control of the population because there weren't those people in power to do anything about it. Their goal here was that racial purity was of the utmost importance, and that's how they were going to establish it that. I'm going to leave that right there for now, but it's going to matter here towards the end of this story. Okay, But once police were able to identify Chevy Keyho as now a prime suspect, they were having a really, really hard time finding him. Why because he lived off the grid like his dad, He bounced around. He did not have any formal documentation like a driver's license or a or a deed to a house or anything that would locate him and to boot Kirby. Keyho had spent a lot of time teaching all of his children how to evade police since they were little, so this guy was pretty good at not getting caught. So the state, local,

51:52 and federal agencies were all now combining their efforts to look for Chevy. And I want to give you kind of a time stamp here. It's now been eighteen months since the Mullers were murdered. So Ohio state troopers. They were out doing their typical duties when a trooper noticed a blue suburban that was slowly weaving in and out of traffic and it wasn't proper lane usage. And so I want to point out here that this constant theme of officers and state troopers just doing their regular tasks and that turning into great findings. I hope you're seeing this and this is all over that this has happened in different states. Ohio, they were in I think the Carolinas.

52:37 They were just all about in different states. So this trooper pulls over that vehicle and as he's approaching it, he notices that there are two occupants inside the car, and both of those men were dressed in military style clothing. And I want to tell you that I know people get butt hurt whenever I use the word profiling. I had people leave me bad review because I talked about profiling in a story before. Profiling is part of life, Okay, when you're looking at a vehicle and you're approaching it. You're profiling this person by looking at their bumper stickers. You're profiling people when you look at their clothing. You're profiling people. If you notice cauliflowered ears, which tells you that they're a fighter. You know what I'm saying, You're kind of learning about people and creating a profile about what they might be about. Well, all of these things are considered during traffic stops too, because they are going to tell you a story that may not be told. Well, back to this white supremacy propaganda bumper sticker stuff. Military clothing combined with white supremacy bumper stickers tells you this might be a hostile person that you're dealing with. So the trooper whenever he approached he asked them, hey, do you have any weapons in the vehicle? And the driver's response was lots of them. But it wasn't like yeah I got a lot of guns, no, no, no, This was in an antagonistic bravado type of.

54:03 Way, yeah I got lots of them. Right. Well, for officer safety, based on this tone that he's getting, he says, why don't you go ahead and step out of the vehicle. And let's go to the rear of the car so that we can talk. It's smart. Let's get him away from these guns, because he seems. Super proud that he's got him well. Immediately, the driver starts yelling at the officer, I know my rights. I don't want to be violated, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. So, while the trooper's trying to maintain control of the situation, calmed the guy down, the driver tears off, running now back to his car, and a struggle ensues. While the officer is now struggling with this driver, he doesn't know what he's got, what he's going for, what's going on.

54:49 The passenger jumps out of the vehicle. He doesn't wait five seconds before he pulls out a gun and he starts opening fire on this officer that's already fire the driver. And this is all at very very close range. This becomes an absolute firefight for life. But there's nowhere to go because there's just the car between them, and cars don't stop bullets. Maybe if you can get behind the engine block, you might could take some cover, possibly, but this is just an all out, just shootout within very close proximity, so as that passenger is unloading on this cop, obviously, he tries to defend himself and create distance. That gives time for the driver to run and jump back in the car, and he speeds off in the car, but he takes off before the passenger is.

55:40 Able to jump back in, but he's shooting. So while the car takes off, the officer even and because I watched the video, I'll put it on Patreon. But the driver's taking off the cop. He's even trying to stop him. As he's driving off, almost runs over the cop, but the car gets away. The cop is now retreating to create distance, and shooter passenger retreats. Into the woodline. So obviously city police are now on high alert. They're searching for the suburban and they are quickly able to locate it in an industrial area nearby. So the cops get out. Clearly, they're very alert. And as they approach the vehicle unprovoked, shots start ringing out again and they are now in another shootout from that same vehicle. Thirty two rounds were exchanged in this very short period of time. And just to give you some if you're not one that's familiar, I want to tell you this my glock, it holds seventeen total rounds.

56:42 There's sixteen in the magazine and one in the chamber, So thirty two rounds were exchanged by this driver. And how does something like a movie? And I hate to keep saying that, but it's true. They're shooting back and forth. He drops down, rolls under his vehicle and is able to roll out the other side, and he gets away on foot because they're steadily exchanging gunfire. The only person that I found was injured in this shootout was a poor bystander who just happened to be in the area, by the way, and he was shot in the arm during all of this volley of gunfire exchange. So the driver gets away. The vehicle has been abandoned though, because he rolled under it and he took off. So now that the shooting has stopped, cops go and approach the gun the car to go see if there's anything in it. Well, they find that it is full of guns and ammunition.

57:40 But guess what else was in there? They find FBI raid jackets, FBI baseball caps, bulletproof vests, holsters, handcuffs, you name it. So why the hell is this car full of FBI gear. Who the hell is doing this? And they're really focused into on this vehicle that's blue. Again, the paint samples of this vehicle are taken to compare to that duct tape impossibly the Muller's case, and it's not a match. So the video of that shootout, which I mentioned that portions of it were released to the media, does anybody recognize the shooter or the shooters? Well, that included the video being sent to a TV station in spoken Washington.

58:33 So here's another state. And in an absolutely crazy turn of events, one of the producers of that TV station had worked on a documentary in the recent history and that documentary was focused on the white power movement in the US. Well, guess what the driver that was on the news right now is the shootout he racked him. He recognized that driver as one of the very white supremacists that was in the documentary that he worked on, and he was able to id him as Chevy Keyho, the son of Kirby Keyhoe.

59:14 So now Arkansas police are heavily looking for Kirby Keyhoe because they want to see what he might know about his son. Now in this shootout, and so they want to know, Hey, what's going on? Do you know anything about your son? And why is he trying to kill all of our cops. They also, in the back of their minds felt like he may know something again about the Muller murders. So the police were able to find him, but they were very tactical in their approach of him because they never brought up the Muller murders, not one time. All they brought up was the traffic stop and these shootouts.

59:54 So when they showed him the video of the shootout, Dad Kirby Keyho does id one of the shooters, but guess what he id'd the passenger, the unknown passenger, and refused, fled out, actually denied even knowing the driver of the vehicle, but police already knew who the driver was, his favorite son, Chevy Keyhoe, but he instead identified the passenger. But do you know who the passenger was, Shane Keyho, his other son. Basically, this guy what a piece of work. This guy would not give up his favorite son's name, but he was willing to do a favor for the police without knowing it, and he gave up his less favorite son's name. So now police knew not only who the shooter was, of the passenger, but also of the driver.

1:00:51 Well done, Kirby Jesus all right. So the FBI and the ATF now were involved together, and we are now in March of nine, eighteen ninety seven. They throw up a sixty thousand dollars reward for any information leading to the Keyho brother's arrest. Well, money talks, baby, okay, because before that could even happen, Shane Keho, that was the brother in the passenger side that the dad gave up. He walks in and turns himself in to Washington police. He walks in and says, I want to surrender and I also want to give you some information. So this is eye opening. What in the hell you're willing to be in a shootout five minutes ago? Not really, you know, you're willing to be in a shootout and possibly kill the police, and now you're willing to just walk in and turn yourself into us.

1:01:45 What the hell is that about? Well, it was simple. Shane Keyho was scared out of his mind, but not of getting caught by the police. He was more afraid of his own brother killing him. Like what, you were just willing to die for him. You're willing to kill for him? Why are you so afraid of him? And that is when Shane says, no, I'm scared of him now because he's been acting more and more crazy. His behavior has become super erratic, and I'm afraid he's gonna kill me because he admitted to me that he was involved in the Muller's murders. So this now laid that wide open. So there he was so afraid by the way, I want to I want to give this little bit of information too. He was so afraid of his brother.

1:02:36 The way that he got away from him was in the middle of the night. Once, once Chevy fell asleep, Shane stole his brother's truck and drove away in the middle of the night to go turn himself in. That's how afraid he was. Now, the truck that he stole from his brother was a white truck, but he says, yeah, it's a white truck. But that's when he had mist The police look, it's recently been painted, so they look. Police are like, wait a minute, well what color was it originally? You already know, you already know, guys, it was blue. So the FBI took the paint, they sent it to the to be matched, and guess what, it absolutely matched the paint makeup of the flex that were in the duct tape of the Mullers.

1:03:22 So now we're really starting to get somewhere. He also told police that his brother had gotten ten thousand dollars in straight up cash from the Mueller's home after they were murdered. He then used that cash to buy the very motor home that he was living in. So Shane is now turned in and admitted all of this stuff, and so police do charge him with numerous felonies attempted murder because of the shootouts with the Leo's, and he didn't care. He just wanted to be safe from his own brother. He even gave up the location of his brother as well as other people that were in his family.

1:04:08 He said, look, they're on a ranch, they're working as ranch hands, they are very heavily armed, and I'm telling you they're getting more unstable by the minute. So this was some greatly needed information. But now police had to get a plan together to try to I guess lure Chevy away from the ranch and presumably that cachet of weapons that he had at his disposal. So they approached the ranch owner, who had. No clue how dangerous these people were that he had hired to work for him, not a clue. That's kind of scary too. He invited these people into his livelihood, they knew his family, He had no idea who they were, and so when he was advised of the danger that was posed, he was like, hell, yeah, I'm gonna work with you. I want him out of here too, and so he decided to work with law enforcement. The plan to take him down was a really simple one. On June seventeenth of nineteen ninety seven, the ranch owner sent Chevy to a feed store in town. It was an ironically the place was called Gunlock, but he sent him in town. This was a very normal errand for him to go run so that the law enforcement got in behind him.

1:05:17 He had no idea. When he parked, he opened the door to get out, and before he was even able to react, he had a gun shoved in his face. The police officer kicked his feet out. From underneath him. He slammed to the ground, he was put in handcuffs, and he was taken without incident. So that's amazing, right, no shootout would ensue. But the second he was in custody. The second, and this will show how much training this guy had, he immediately lawyered up. I want a lawyer. I want a lawyer. I want a lawyer. I want a lawyer. Don't talk to me, I want a lawyer. Not only that he was going to be zero help to the police, but he was also going to be zero help to himself. He wasn't going to explain shit, he wasn't going to try to say anything to the police.

1:06:04 He wasn't saying a damn thing. But investigators knew something else that Chevy did not know, and that's that his brother Shane had also alerted them that Chevy was not alone in these murders of the Mullers. He had an accomplice. The issue with that was that Chevy did not excuse me. Shane did not know the name of the accomplice, but he did verify that there was an accomplice. So obviously this family is uber dangerous, all of them. When a brother would rather work with the police than stay free with his own brother, I hope that goes without question how dangerous this family was.

1:06:48 But it gets even worse because it's now again time stamp been two years since the murders of Bill, Sarah and Nancy, when in March of ninetheen ninety eight, someone else would now betray that white supremacy family and come forward. Chevy and Shane's own mother would go to police. Remember Gloria, she was friends with Nancy. She would come forward and go to the police. And get this, it wasn't even because of her sons. She didn't come forward out of a guilty conscience. She didn't come forward because this poor family had been murdered, and you know her sons may.

1:07:34 Have been involved. I'm not even going to play that game, and I'm not even going to give her that credit. The reason she came forward was to save her own ass. Get this, it wasn't even from her kids either. It was from her own husband, the father of her children. Because remember how I said before, one of the main goals of white supremacy of this type is to purify the white race and to keep it superior. Well, for some reason, her husband, Kirby, he now got it in his head that his wife's blood had been tainted because she might have some Indian blood in her and this made her impure because of that, he now wanted to kill his own wife to improve the race. She also knew too much, and so now that the family was feeling the pressure from police and all of these interactions, he wanted his own wife dead.

1:08:29 Can you imagine? This has got to be the most unsafe environment to grow up in that I have ever even heard of. And these people, guys, they are so damn extreme. It's almost comical if it weren't so dangerous and resulting in the death of others because they're so ridiculous. But either way, whenever, whenever she came forward, more valuable information and insight was gained because she told the authorities that there were two rental units that they needed to go look at. There was one in Thompson Falls, Montana, which her husband had rented, and the other one was in Old Town, Idaho, that her son, Chevy had rented. So of course they run and they go check these units.

1:09:17 Inside one of the units were tons of guns, hand grenades, grenade parts, machine guns, assault rifles, and over thirty thousand rounds of ammunition. And this included a bunch of different calibers as well as they had armor piercing ammunition like they were gonna kill some people. They also recovered a Maddie AK forty seven that was registered to Nancy Mueller. And they also got some Black Hills ammunition that matched the serial numbers of Bill Mueller's ammunition. If this ain't a clue, I don't know what is. In the other unit that they went and searched in the other state, they found two display cases like for the gun shows, and they were able to lift fingerprints from that. They were able to lift Chevy's fingerprints, but they were also able to lift the prince of another guy named daniel Lee.

1:10:17 This case is so interesting to me because it's all over the place. We are in different states. There's a ton of players, and this daniel Lee guy was also a white supremacist type of dude. In that unit that they searched, they found tons of white supremacy propaganda literature as well as survivalist guides like tons of them to hand out. So through a recorded phone call in jail, Chevy would do a lot of talking, but it was his mother that would reveal something that was very damning against her own son. Whenever she told police that Chevy told her he had put the Muellers on quote a liquid diet, which was code for they were dumped in the water. So what exactly happened to the Muellers and why, Well, y'all, it all boils down to greed and presumed disrespect. I'm gonna lay it all out for you. So basically, Kirby Keho, the dad and his son Shane had done the original burglary of the Mueller home, remember that one that was never solved. They did it basically, they broke into the Mueller's home when they knew that they weren't there because they were at a gun show, and they stole everything they could of value from the home. Then they divided it up amongst each other. Well, Chevy Keyhoe took some

1:11:48 of that stolen property to Washington State and he was selling the property. Well, this caused a rift. Between father and son because Daddy Keyho got mad saying that Chevy had shorted him in his share of the proceeds from some of the coins that Chevy had sold while he was in Washington State. So this animosity was building between the two of them. In the meantime, Bill Mueller was not an idiot, and he figured it out that his so called friends had stolen everything from him while he was out of town. So Bill, who was not an idiot, was also not a frickin coward, and Bill straight up ten toes down chest out mad about it.

1:12:36 He didn't call police, remember he didn't really believe in that. He straight up confronted the Keyhos about it, man to man, Well, as you can imagine, he was pretty damn disrespectful in that confrontation. I would have been too, how dare you're supposed to be my friends? Hell, you babysit my daughter and then you're gonna. Steal from me? Well, the key host took offense to that. Yeah, they had stolen everything from him, but they felt like he was too disrespectful in the way that he approached them. How fucking stupid is that? And because of that disrespect that was shown, Dad Keyho then gave the green light for Bill to be murdered, and that family planned the murder of all of the Mullers, including little Sarah, for over a year. I mean, with friends like this, who the hell needs enemies, you know what I mean? They knew that Bill had money and guns, and they wanted to take the family out completely, so that they could take every single thing that they owned.

1:13:44 But Mom, Gloria Keyho. She then was able to identify that unknown accomplice that had done these murders with her son, and she pointed to that very print that was lifted from that display cabinet of daniel Lee. I hope you're following me now. I told you daniel Lee was a white supremacy associate of the family. But I'm gonna tell y'all something. This guy is scary as shit looking, and I mean that completely. Let me expand so you'll know. Obviously he's gonna look like a skinhead. He's a white dude, shaved head, real short, but he has one eye that is completely grayed out.

1:14:27 It's like gray. It's cloudy, cloudy, cloudy. He lost that eye, got destroyed in a fight some years prior. He has Nazi tattoos on his neck that double lightning bolt that is common in white supremacy, and he had been a very violent. Kid in this white supremacy lifestyle. He was sent originally to a religious boarding school, but then he got shifted over to mental health hospitals. He spent time in juvie and whenever he met the Keyhose together, they were like an echo chamber of bad ideas, and they decided they were going to all work together to carry out these anti government plans. Basically, the dynamic was that favorite son, Chevy Keiho was the ring leader and Daniel Lee was his number one soldier doing.

1:15:17 What he was told. So what happened to the Muellers on the day that they were killed? Because I've taken you all over the US to put a puzzle together, so I'm gonna make it cohesive for you. Chevy and daniel told the Keyho parents that they were going to go to Oklahoma. They needed to visit daniel Lee's mom because she had just had emergency gallbladder surgery. This was on January tenth of nineteen ninety six. So Gloria said she gave the boys as she called them, forty dollars in cash because they did not have any money, and then they pulled out of the driveway in Chevy's blue nineteen eighty five GMC diesel truck. The very next day, they broke into the Mueller's home, but it was empty.

1:15:59 By was home well. While they were there, they or when they originally broke in, they both were dressed from head to toe in FBI gear. Is this now like clicking in your head? Because of all that shootout gear they found in the car. They were dressed head to toe as FBI agents, where they lie in wait for the family to return. When the family returned, they surprised and scared, you know, the Mullers whenever they walked in, and they had to subdue Bill because Bill immediately fought back before he was knocked unconscious with the butt of a gun. So at that point they got them all subdued, and they started making demands for the cash and the guns. But Bill wasn't giving it up, Nancy wasn't giving it up, and so when all of that went unanswered, they separated the family and that's when they started torturing them with the cattle prods.

1:16:57 So this poor girl, little Sarah is in a room Buyers screaming out for her Mama, want help, help, She's being tortured. The other parents are in the other rooms being tortured, and they're separated. And that's whenever they continue to not give up any information. And so they covered the family's heads in plastic bags and use the duct tape to secure it and watch them slowly and agonizingly suffocate. Sarah was the last. One to be killed, and so it is believed or understood that she actually had to watch her parents slowly die. The reason she was the last to be killed, though, is because Chevy directed Daniel Lee he said, go kill the little girl.

1:17:41 But Daniel. He looked at Chevy and was like, well, I'm not killing a little girl. And while this guy is completely and totally reprehensible, I'm gonna give him an ounce here, just an ounce in that he didn't believe in killing kids. He drew the line, I'm not gonna go hr a child. But then, let me just say this that if Sarah wouldn't have if Sarah would have been black, he would have probably had no problem doing that. So I immediately take back that ounce I gave. Okay, but Chevy he was unbothered either way. And Chevy was like, fine, get the fuck out of my way, and he went over there and he killed that little girl himself. Whenever they were done with that, they ransacked the house. They stole the cash, the guns, everything, the ammunition. The total was actually fifty grand in the cash and coins and guns.

1:18:31 I mean the cash and coins and all of that, but the firearms were estimated to be an additional thirty thousand dollars, so much more than police originally knew. Afterwards, they loaded up their bodies into the truck and drove them to the waterway where they dumped them. They then drove the. Mueller's vehicle and that trailer to that wooded property and they hit it before they left town. Now, why did Daniel Lee agree to help, other than the ideology of being a white supremacist white supremacist, Well, they gave him four thousand dollars in a pistol. That was the value of a whole family's life. Four grand and a pistol.

1:19:12 It's so sick. Then they, unbothered, took all the stolen property to that Shadows motel in Washington. And so when investigators went and spoke to the manager of the hotel, his name was Jeff Brown, he actually was able to say, Oh, yeah, they had all sorts of stuff here that they were selling, but they told me all the merchandise was on consignment. From a dealer. So they lied obviously, and Shane was able to verify he was told the same thing. Gloria, the Mom identified and verified the same thing, and roughly two months later in June, that's whenever those bodies were found in the water.

1:19:52 So both Chevy Keiho and Daniel Lee were arrested and charged with the heinous murders of Bill Nancy and Sarah Mueller. Gloria Kehoe and Shane Keyho both also testified kind of his main witnesses against Chevy and Daniel at trial. So favorite son, Chevy and daniel were both convicted of all of those murders. But get this, Chevy, the guy who literally killed them all, he got life in prison, while Daniel Lee, who refused to kill the little girl. He got the death penalty. There's a lot of argument of why that is, and a lot of people.

1:20:36 Chalk it up to the way that he looks, because he's so scary looking that he got the worst penalty. And Daniel Lee was executed on July fourteenth in twenty twenty for his role in all of those crimes, while Chevy remains in federal prison to this day. I want to let all my listeners know this. I'm going to be releasing a bonus episode to my patron members and it's going to go along with this episode, but it's completely different case, but it goes along with this because there is way more to this family, this horrible family, than the murders of the Mullers. And I want to tell it all, but you know me, and I want all victims to have their moment, and today this episode, well this was going to be the Mueller's moment. So y'all stay tuned Patreon members for that bonus that I'll be releasing very soon. So when it's all said and done, a family was wiped out over greed, hate and pathetic men who can't handle a little deserved respect. And that's the thing about white supremacy. Their goals are rooted in nothing but hate. And anyone who hates someone for the color of their skin, I don't care who you are, you are a threat to all of us. Anyone can be hateful, a badge or a trophy to wear.

1:22:01 I get so disgusted by that. You know you don't earn this. Anyone can be hateful. It's easy to hate people. And that's why I think white supremacy is a total frickin joke. It's kind of like how rumors fly and are accepted with ease. While actual truth is so very few proactively seek it. Anyone who believes in any racial supremacy of any type, to me, is an absolute idiot. We all need to raise our kids and foundations of love and purpose and seeing someone's heart, not their color. And I'll give you this tidbit of my own personal life. When I talk about race, okay, in my own home and I'm talking to my own children, I like to compare race to cancer ribbons. And what I mean is that all cancer ribbons are the same.

1:22:53 They're the same in shape, in size, and material. The only difference between them is the color. And we don't ignore the color differences. That's obvious when you're looking at cancer ribbons. That's obvious that they're not the same. There's this difference. But when we do focus on the color, it's not to hate it. We do that so we can learn about it and then to see if we can help in some way. That's the only time color makes a difference. If you want to be part of something that's hard, try loving people in today's world. You know, most of the time we don't want to. That's hard.

1:23:33 That's a fight worth fighting because it's hard. It's the hard that makes it great. That's the hard that makes it worth something. And I can't help but wonder what it means. Also, whenever you think your race is superior, yet you murder people of your own race. That's what the key Hose did. I guess that's a just completely different thought to ponder there, and to the key Hose specifically, between the missing teeth and the lies and the lack of loyalty, it's no wonder y'all are all mad, okay, But y'all keep worshiping y'all skin tone like it's sacred. That's fine, you know that's your prerogative. But I just want you to be advised, specifically from me to you, that all the rest of us see when we look at y'all is wrapping paper on rot