The Thrill Kill: Alyssa Bustamante

0:06 Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering how is this even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all, it's kJ You're back with another episode of Unspeakable. And if you're watching me right now on Patreon, you're like, oh my god, she has no makeup on guys, this case had me so fired up. I was so ready to jump in the studio this morning and record it that you're getting me all natural. But before I jump into this case, which you're gonna love, I'm gonna give a couple of shout outs and we're gonna start in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, where Jody Parda do I roll that? Are Is it pereda?

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3:55 downs and good and bad, and they just mattered so much. Well, that's going to come into play here because we're going to go specifically to the town of Saint Martin's which is near Jefferson City, and this was where the home of the Olton family was as well as the Brook family. Now, their homes were situated on this rural tract of land that extended many acres, but they would be considered neighbors now. They lived roughly four houses apart, but it was walking distance even though it was spread out. And this worked out really well because both of these households had young girls who became friends. It was like the neighborhood buddies and the little girls had not only had their ages in common, but also some of their life situations would make them more alike than you would expect. So I'm gonna start with nine year old Elizabeth Olton. She was a fourth grader at Pioneer Trails Elementary School. And this little girl, she's a funny, little tomboy. She loved play outdoors and swim in the creek that ran behind the house.

5:04 Very rough and tumble for sure, but she also had a girly side to her. She liked princesses and she liked to, you know, tread both sides of that. And the thought here became princesses that could kick butt, and I was like, hell, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Beauty and grace, but also willing to punch somebody if they needed it. But there were limits to that kick butt mentality because she was deathly afraid of the dark, deathly so scary movies were fun, but when she watched them, she had to have the light on, so she knew that she did not want to be in the dark ever, and all butt kicking would have to take place before the sun went down, too, because if it was dark, there was no way that she could do what she had to do. As a little rough and tumble princess, she liked to bake and do puzzles. She was a girl, if you're picking up on this, that really loved to be busy, and while being busy, she loved to jam out to her favorite music. And I know a lot of us are going to be able to identify with this, but Taylor Swift to be precise, and of course Disney's Hannah Montana, those were her jam Now. Her bestie, at least in the neighborhood, was Emma, and Emma lived in the Brook household. She lived with her grandparents. Their names were Gary and Karen Brooke. And this is where I mentioned that both little girls had a similarity in terms of hard times in their lives because Emma lived with her parents because her biological parents had really failed her.

6:40 Her mom was Michelle, her dad's name was Caesar, and they were both just teenagers when they began having kids, and I believe they were fifteen whenever they had their first child together. And on top of that, both of them had substance abuse issues and her father was currently even serving time in prison for assault charges. I mean that alone tells you that life didn't start out too well for this little girl. Now, they were clearly not worthy of being parents and unable to provide any sort of stability. So Michelle's parents stepped in and they took over control of their children. And by the way, there were three children that they had once they started at age fifteen, even though they could not care for any of them properly. And the reason that I said that this would be a similarity to little Elizabeth is because both Elizabeth's father and her older brother were also in prison.

7:41 So we have two little girls that have experienced the loss of their father and that they were behind bars. And so the deal with Elizabeth was that her dad, his name was Dale. He was charged with things like drug possession and he had been sentenced to four years in prison for that. On top of that, he also pled guilty to illegally possessing twenty nine rifles, shotguns and handguns. This was in February of two thousand and nine, and seventeen of those firearms were confirmed to be stolen. He was busted basically when there was a series of burglaries that were being investigated in the area and it eventually led to the search of the Olton residence. And so now he was facing a minimum sentence of fifteen years in federal prison without parole plus a fine of up to five hundred thousand dollars. The brothers charges, I honestly, I didn't spend a lot of time on this. I'm unsure what they were. I would assume this is allegedly.

8:42 I don't know, but I would assume it's something similar in nature. But either way, both of the male, older male figures in her life were locked up. Now, both girls, as you know, because I've told you they're about nine years old, they were both still little and while it's sad to not see your dad, they were still doing well in life. Okay, they were still hanging in there. Basically, Emma's grandparents stepped in after doing all that they could to bring food and to help care for the children. But it was obvious to them very soon on that their daughter and son in law were inept parents. And so while Emma's parents grandparents were watching from afar, they were seeing that these poor kids were getting drug around everywhere.

9:27 They were constantly being evicted from where they were living and not paying rent. So those parents, grandparents' parents, everyone to look at it. They went the extra mile, and they eventually went and petitioned the courts for full custody of the three children. So Emma had actually is four children now that I think about it, because Emma had an older sister and she had twin older brothers. So yeah, wow, math it's hard, Okay, that would actually be four. So in order to get a fresh start in life after they were a to obtain custody of all of these kids, they moved completely, up ended their lives and moved to some land that they bought in Saint Martin's and the kids were doing really well adjusted, well, they were happy.

10:16 Of course, there were some struggles. I mean, they didn't have their parents. Of course there were struggles. But this stability was a beautiful thing that these two grandparents provided to them. And it's a wonderful thing. And God blessed those grandparents and all grandparents in this world who step in and recognize when their own kids are not doing a good job, and they take on these kids, even at an age whenever they should be relaxing. You know, they raise their own kids. And I know plenty of people that have done this and they now have custody of their grandchildren and they're doing a wonderful job. If that is you, Please know that your job here is unmatched, and you deserve all the best foreseeing that these kids need so much help. So these grandparents were no different, and they took in all these children. So as you can tell, both of these little girls had experienced parental failure in one way or another, but they had adjusted well.

11:14 They were getting along, and they were doing pretty good as far as little nine year old girls saw the world. And now they were friends that loved to play together. So it was October twenty first, two thousand and nine, when it was just like every other day. And I know podcasts and true crime shows always start like that, but that's the truth. It's a normal day. The leaves were changing. It was a windy, yet beautiful afternoon when Emma trotted down to see if Elizabeth could play. And I did read somewhere that Emma's grandmother had initially told her, no, don't go down there to play, but she did it anyway. Whether that's true or not, I believe that's true, but it's just a small fun fact I'll add there. But she wanted to go play with her friend, and so she took off trotten down the road. Now it only took her about five minutes to get from her house down to Elizabeth's house, and when she knocked on the door, it was opened, and she was greeted with a smile, and she was said, hey, can Elizabeth come and play?

12:10 But Elizabeth's mama intervened and said, no, I'm sorry, girls, not today. Because Elizabeth she loved a theater and theatrix and she was at the table practicing her lines for an upcoming show that she was going to be starring in. And from what I understand, the name of that show was called Noteworthy. Now I'm a nerd. I want to let y'all know this. I'm a nerd, and I wanted to know what the show was about, and so there wasn't much info when I tried to figure out what the show was about. But it does seem to be that that is a program for a musical theater in some way for young children. So I really don't know what her position in that story would have been, but either way, she needed to practice what her lines. But when your bestie's at the front door smiling and waving and wanting you to come play, practice can wait? You want to go play? But mama said, well, at that point, both of the girls are going please Mama, please see begging, begging, bagging.

13:07 Please Miss Olton, please, can she come play just for a minute? And she said no, no, girls, dinner's almost ready and we've got to and you know the mama, please just for a little bit, please. So her mama looked at her for just a moment and then gave in and said, Okay, I will let you go play, but you have to be home for six o'clock sharp, no questions asked. Well, as y'all know, Elizabeth was terrified of the dark, so this would not be an issue for her. She was going to beat the sun going down if it was the last thing she did. So the girls were like, yeah, okay, yes, yes, we'll do that. I'll be back, I promise. So she jumped down from the chair and she ran out the door. Now Mama watched the girls as they ran down the driveway together and took off for whatever little adventure they would go on before she returned home for the evening. Now, she did stop her at one point and say, wait, Elizabeth, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I want you to take the cell phone with you. Take the cell phone so that I can make sure you get home on time, and she said, okay, Mama, she grabbed the cell phone, and then they took off to go do whatever they were going to go do.

14:13 And like I said, this is where it's nice to have your little neighborhood buddies, your little friends, and my little friends growing up. Their names were Natasha and Melissa, the two that I'm thinking of that now live in Missouri, and I was always begging for them to come and play, but they always had to do their chores first, and I can remember I'd pace back and forth in front of their house on the road until they were done, and they would come bounding out. We would have the time of our lives just doing the stupidest little adventures. But it was so much fun. And these two little girls were no different. They're out near kind of wildernessy type of area. They have woods, they have creeks, they have just basic dirt road gravel road type fun going on.

14:53 So some time passed and it was just about six o'clock when Elizabeth's mom looked outside to see where she was. Was she coming up the driveway, was she down the road? But Elizabeth wasn't there, So a little bit annoyed she yelled out for her, but Elizabeth did not answer. So that's whenever she went to the phone and she tried to call Elizabeth on the cell phone, but Elizabeth wouldn't pick up the phone. So this was a little bit alarming, as you can imagine. And that's whenever mom decided to make a phone call down to the brook household to see if the girls were down there and had lost track of time. Maybe she set the cell phone down outside and they were inside. Whatever. Well, when miss Karen answered, she was a bit confused because at first she told the mom, Elizabeth's mom, that she hadn't seen Elizabeth at all that afternoon. She hadn't been here. So in a complete and total panic, Elizabeth's mom died nine to one one and said, oh my god, my baby girl went down to go play the neighbor's house. She never made it down there. And it was just the sickest feeling in the world to not know where where your child is and nobody claims to have seen her. I mean, I know, I've lost my child lost quote unquote, but lost my children to the clothing racks at Walmart. And it's because that little youngest one's a little tyrant, and she'll go hide underneath the clothing racks, you know, and that's enough to make your heart skip a beat, but you know they pop back out and you don't do that.

16:22 You scared me, and then you move on about your day. But now here we are, the sun is going down. Your child, who's deathly afraid of the dark, is nowhere to be found. And now that home she was supposed to go to, they say she never was there. You've got to know that that had to be just a your heart drop into your butthole type of moment, that, oh my god, where could my baby be? So the police arrived and they began taking hold of and trying to build a picture of Elizabeth's last known moments when she was actually seen. Well, obviously this was going to be with young Emma, so it led right on down to that house. Now, after just a brief moment, it was realized that miss Karen was simply mistaken. Now I know you're right now, you're like, huh, how are you mistaken? Well, she actually was, because remember she had told Emma not to go down there and play. Well, she I guess assumed that Emma was just playing outside around the house, but Emma went down there anyway and got Elizabeth. So when the girls came back and they were outside playing in the driveway, Miss Karen just did not know she was in the house doing whatever. So it made sense why she was mistaken in the beginning. And whenever they spoke to a little young Emma, she was able to clear up what happened as well as a nine year old little girl could be expected to do. She said, yes, Elizabeth was here. She was playing with me. We played a board game for a little while, and then we decided to go outside and play some hopscotch in the driveway.

17:47 And she said that was about six o'clock and then Emma said that she had to go. It was time to go home. Okay, well did you see her leave? I mean, what happened you were outside with her? And she said, well, yeah, there was this big rock in their driveway. Now I don't have a picture of the rock per se, but I don't think this is a rock like, you know, like a big stone. This is more like, I think, like a boulder, almost like a small boulder type thing. Because she said that there's a big rock in the driveway, and she said she climbed on top of it, and she watched Emma go all the way down her driveway, turn on the road until she went out of sight. Okay, so what happened after that?

18:32 And she They were like, did you hear anything? Did you see anything out of the norm? And she said no, nothing. She said, I'd jumped down off the rock and I just kind of continued playing alone in the yard. So remember it's a more rural area. The houses are not stacked one upon the other. There was distance between the homes. So it's absolutely believable that the little girl would have started down the road and then her friend not see her again. All right, well, what else you know? Tell us more? Did you remain outside? Did you go in? And she said, oh, yeah, definitely. I kept playing outside. She said, I was over there by those bushes. These bushes were kind of like lining the driveway. She said, I was over there playing by the bushes. And she said at one point her ponytail holder had gotten pulled or like stuck in some thorns while she was playing near the bushes, and so she had to kind of work to get her hair out of those thorn bushes.

19:24 And while she was doing that, she said, she got really scratched up, and the more that she moved trying to get her hair untangled, the worse it really got. And then she found that her feet were kind of stuck underneath those bushes too, and then her foot got stuck, so whenever she would try to move her foot, she was getting like cut even more by these damn thorns. So damn being my words, not the little girls. So at that point she started freaking out, and so she started screaming, somebody helped me, Please help me. I can't get my leg out. She's calling for her grandma whatever. Well, luckily for her, her older sister Alissa heard her screaming for help, and she said that Alyssa came out and helped her unstick her foot and then they were able to untangle her hair from the bush and then they went inside together and they got cleaned up. So while this was great for establishing a timeline, it didn't really help to locate Elizabeth. And like I said, the sun was setting, I mean, the it's getting dark, and that's going to be a problem when we're trying to figure out where where she is. So they said, okay, well, look, would she have gone into the woods to go home, like maybe gone through a path in the woods. Emma immediately said absolutely not. She said we would never go in the woods. And her exact words were, it's just too scary. It's too scary. So the last known location of the child was going to be the edge of

20:55 the Brook family's driveway around six pm, and then poof, she's gone, not seen again. So of course I think we all probably go the same route here and we go, oh my god, she's been kidnapped. Everyone else goes that way. I mean, I know I did. Someone had to have picked her up off this road. And this is going to be, in my opinion, a young child's worst nightmare, aside from your child being found dead, is the fact that someone may have taken them and there's no way of knowing. So, on that same note of this being horrific, the police are basically begging this nine year old girl for more information. I mean they're asking her again and again and again to try to see if it elicits more information. But every time she's asked, she recites the same thing over and over because it was true. There was nothing more for her to tell, and there was no fluctuation in the story. But by ten pm that night, everyone in town was looking for little Elizabeth. And when I tell you everyone in town, I want you to know hundreds of peace people came out looking for this little girl. They were searching the woods, they were searching the area around the homes nearby. Police had even set up checkpoints. They were stopping cars, and everyone in the area was notified to be on the lookout for this little girl. They were even also looking in the vehicles to see if maybe she was in a car. Basically, a full scale search was on for this child. But

22:27 realizing at that point that Elizabeth had a cell phone on her, police then did their due diligence and they tried to ping the signal from that cell phone, and thank god, but it came back with a relative location and near the home. This was great. It was registering in the woods behind the tract of homes right there. Whew. Okay, hopefully she just went up in the woods and she got lost or she got hurt, and we're gonna go find her and we're gonna bring her home and we've got this is going to be great. Okay. But while this was a good lead, I need to let you know that this isn't the movies, this is real life, okay.

23:08 And the area behind the houses was roughly sixty acres of land, so pinging a cell phone at best may get you within one hundred square yards of where that phone is. But it's not like a direct spot like you see in the movies, like, oh, she's right here, sitting in a blue chair. It's not like that, okay. So while they may have gotten a location, y'all, you still have to walk it out. You still have to go inch by inch, foot by foot to look for this phone. And the wooded area at that time was full of debris, full of fallen leaves, and it just made it that much harder. But if Elizabeth was lost in the woods, hello, they could yell out to her and that would be a whole lot easier to locate her.

23:54 But that was if she answered, because Elizabeth wasn't answering calling out for her yelling looking nowhere. So for people under the age of twenty one, okay, if they go missing, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children is going to be contacted relatively quickly and a photo is going to be given for dissemination and other case assistants, because obviously children are a different animal. They can't go missing, especially when they're nine years old. There's never a valid reason, and they can't support themselves nor take care of themselves. So they were trying to determine here if outside help would be needed. And so when you go to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, there's collaboration here and they can utilize local, state, and federal resources for these specialized investigative needs. But this includes available search and rescue resources. And the FBI was brought in on this since so much time had passed and they had not located this little girl, So the FBI is now involved.

25:05 Everybody is looking for her, and with advanced search opportunities here outside the local police, So immediately a command post was set up to coordinate and direct all search activities. And this is way more detailed than the average person would probably think, and without boring you, I want to talk about what this means for just a minute. So when you're trying to search for a kid that is up and missing, obviously you're going to be looking in the area physically where the child was last seen. But there's other things that have to be taken into account, and unfortunately that's going to be sex offenders in the area, and it's not uncommon, it's actually practice that when these children go missing, the police are going to compile a quick list of the known sex offenders in that area and see if maybe they are involved in this somehow.

25:56 And in cases again involving children, they're also going to see if there was any child protective custody type records, any reports of child abuse of those children that maybe someone might need to be looked at or targeted as having wanted to take the children. You know, custodial abductions happen. Parents who lose custody of their children will go and take the kids and leave. So they're going to review their records for previous incidences related to that child, prior police activity in the area and at that home. This is going to include looking at prowler reports and decent exposure reports, attempted abductions, all of that is going to be looked at because the same people in our communities are committing eighty percent of the crime. You should look that up. It's absolutely incredible. It's the same people doing all the same shit in our areas. So they also are going to go interview any delivery personnel, any employees of the gas water Electric company, these cable companies, taxi drivers, post office personnel, sanitation workers, anybody that might have been in that area. So, as you can imagine, this is a massive undertaking that's got to be well organized and structured so everybody knows what job that you're doing. So at this time, as all of this is going on, Elizabeth's mother was in complete shock. She was grief stricken, and so an officer had to be and should have

27:28 been and was. But an officer was specifically appointed to be their communications source and to be their point of contact should anything come about that they could directly get the information to that officer. Plus the media was now coming into play. Double edged sword here, y'all. It is such a double edged sword because they're going to put out whatever information they want to put out, and the law enforcement agencies now have to determine what to disclose, if anything which would not adversarily affect the ability to locate her or to apprehend and prosecute anyone who might be involved. They can't just tell you everything because it might give up important information. But people crave, they crave this information, but it's just not always okay to share everything.

28:20 You have to protect the investigation, and long term thinking is going to be applied here, and it sucks for people who want all the information, but you got to protect the investigation. So regardless of all of this effort, all of this thought, all of this searching and digging, Elizabeth was not located. And the night seemed like a year as the moon rose and her mother awaited any word of her being found. And you can imagine what was going through her mama's mind. You can just imagine. It's dark, Is she cold? Is she crying? Is she scared out of her mind? Of course she is. She's terrified of the dark. Her mama is pacing the floor, and that's not helping. It doesn't help when your mind is going wild. I'm sure the panic was just unmanageable.

29:10 I think I would have to be medicated. I don't you know, my god, the night must have taken forever. But finally the sun came back up on Thursday, October twenty second. So this brought about three hundred volunteers and one hundred officers to search and even more people showed up. The community continued to show up. They cared, they wanted to find her. So many people came that they had to turn away people by the afternoon because it was just too many people to manage. And I believe that we had a local child by the way, sidestep, We had a local child go missing last year and it was right near my home, and I, as a mother, could not go home when this child had been missing for a very long time. I couldn't go home and just know that someone's kid was missing in our community, No way. I loaded up my children in my car and we went for at least two hours, and we drove up and down every road within the area that we could think of, and I told him look out the windows, see if you see him, because if he's out here, let's go help try to find him. You know.

30:22 Of course, we didn't find him. They did find the child. He was found, Okay, he was just being a little turd and was hiding, believe it or not. But the fear there, even if it's not your kid, you want to help. So as if all of this wasn't bad enough that she hadn't been located overnight, now mother nature got in the way. It had begun to rain, a lot of rain, which made searching the area even more difficult with the mud and the terrain and all of that. Well, that day came and went without any new leads or findings, so genuine desperation is setting in at this point. But by Friday, October twenty third, this would bring about new search opportunities, including a helicopter that was employed and that went up in the air and it's searching by air now to see and you know, they have special resources on some of these helicopters, depending on what agency has it, but they have like the flear that they can shoot to look for body heat, so even if they're under brush or something, they can pick them out. But the family of Elizabeth, they needed to be busy. They needed something to do. They had to feel like they were assisting in some way, something practical, something that could build hope in the process. They couldn't just sit there. So the family began making buttons to share and to keep Elizabeth's face in the forefront of everyone's mind, you know, the buttons like you put on your shirt, and so more questioning was done while they're working on that more

31:56 questioning was done of the families that lived near the woods, and it was determined through a bunch of interviews and things that were done that Emma's older sister, Alissa, was at school the day Elizabeth went missing, but the day after Elizabeth went missing, she had skipped school, and so while that doesn't mean anything, it was of interest to investigators who wanted to ask her some more in depth information about what she did that day and why she skipped school. So Alissa was brought in for an interrogation. Now, I watched all of the interrogation, by the way, and she was very calm, very calm and confident in her demeanor.

32:45 She did not come across as like freaking out. She didn't seem stressed. She just seemed like a regular teenager being questioned about whatever. She was wearing blue jeans, She had a plaid like long sleeve shirt over another T shirt. She has black hair in this short cut, and she has like her hairs to her shoulders. She kind of has some lip piercings in her lips, and her bangs are cut where they like kind of cover one eye, and she wears really dark eyeliner. She wears like van type shoes. And the whole reason I'm explaining this to you is you kind of get the goth vibe from her if you remember being goth, you know the goth kids as a teen, and it's really giving like Avril Levine vibes, but darker. Okay. Now, Elissa was fifteen years old, looking into her all about her. She was a good student, she made a's and b's, she had no behavioral issues at school, she was smart, and she had friends. But she was still a teen. And so in questioning, she finally did admit, Okay, yeah, I skipped school, but I wasn't home when I skip school. Okay, we then where were you? And she says, well, I went to my boyfriend's house and I spent the day with him because he also stayed home from school. So I guess you can just work your imagination on that. So to verify this, the boyfriend was also questioned, and it did seem to

34:15 be legit. Whatever he was saying to them was seeming to to line up. Now he even added this, He said that, yes, we hung out, and he said my mom actually came home unexpectedly and it scared us. So Alissa was forced. He said, you got to get in my closet, and so he shoves her in the closet, well, not shoves her, but says get in the closet. And then she's hiding in the closet the whole time the mom is home. And then when the mom goes to get into the shower, they're like, all right, this is the point you can go. And so she gets out of the closet and she jets and she goes back to the house. So, okay, that does seem to line up pretty well. So Alissa, though, needed to be questioned some more. So they asked her a about Elizabeth and because she had known Elizabeth for years. Okay, so because when Elizabeth moved in or excuse me, when Alyssa moved in with her grandmother. She was eight years old at that time, so she had known Elizabeth for quite a while as her sister's little friend. And they asked her, you know, how do you feel about Elizabeth being missing?

35:20 And she said, I can't believe it. You know, this is something that doesn't really happen in real life. You know. She said, Elizabeth was a girly girl. She would come over and she would play and she would swim. She said that, you know, she's kind of annoying to like my sister, a little young girls get annoying. And again the whole time just very matter of fact, very calm. And so they asked her in this interrogation, what do you think might have happened to Elizabeth? And so she thought about it for a second and she's like, well, I mean she's nine. I mean she wouldn't run away. Nine year olds don't run away. And she said, they've been searching for her for days, they haven't found her.

36:01 So I mean, my only guess is that she she must have been kidnapped. I mean, where else would she be, I mean, she doesn't have anywhere else to go. And she said, but the reason I think she had to have been kidnapped, too, is because she's not the type of kid that would hide or stay out all night. So it would have had to have been a really sick person who put aside their morals to just up and take a nine year old. That's wild. So I would have to agree with her on that. So Alissa did recount what she did the day Elizabeth went missing, and she was really clear and upfront about all of it. She said, I missed the bus that morning. My grandpa ended up having to take me to school. So I went to school. Then I got home around three point thirty, she said. About five o'clock, I went for a walk, like probably for an hour or so. She said, I was going to take my little sister with me, but she was being frickin annoying, so she said, I just ditched her and went about my business. So after she went on her little walk through the woods, and there's a creek back there. She liked to talk about that creek.

37:05 She said. She got home, she went into her room, and then she had opened her window and she heard yelling and it caught her attention. So her bedroom window overlooked kind of like the yard. It looks to be an upstairs window, and so she kind of could hear the screaming. And when she looks out, she realizes, oh my god, her sister was stuck in a bush, and so she went to help her. Now all of this lines up with what everybody was saying. She said, After I helped my sister get unstuck, then we had to get ready because we had church that night. They did Wednesday night activities. At their church, and she said after that or about that time, Elizabeth's brother came knocking and looking for her, saying that they couldn't find her. But she said, I wasn't worried about it. I mean, it wasn't until I got home from church that I realized, Oh my god, because multiple sheriffs were at our house and we're in the area and they were looking for her.

37:59 It was very unnerving, and she said, I just could not believe it, you know, that she went missing, she said, But I mean eventually we had to go to bed because we had school the next day. So they asked her a little bit more about herself, and she said that, you know, I like nature, I like being outside, and I get really bored really easy. So when she was pressed about what she did to fill her boredom, she mentioned that there wasn't much to do, and she said, that's why I go on my walks, because there's nothing to do here. It's like we're in the middle of nowhere and it's boring, she said. And sometimes I dig holes or something like that, but there's I just go outside. Well, the hole digging really caught their attention, and so they asked her to expand on it, and she says she didn't really have a rhyme or reason to it. It was just something she did while she was bored and to see what she could possibly find in the dirt.

38:55 And he's like, all right, so you're not afraid of like arms or anything like that, and she's like, no, she played rugby and she's used to getting dirtied. Her didn't bother her. And she said, you know, when I dig these holes, like if I find a dead animal or something like that, I like to bury them. She said, it's just I think respectful of the animal, and so sometimes I would dig the holes to bury the animals. And so while I'm hearing this, I don't know about you, but at this point the interrogate interrogation, I'm kind of like, Okay, bullshit. You just go around like digging holes and bearing dead animals like that sounds weird to me. I know I look at things through a criminal justice lens, but that just sounded bizarre. Well, to my surprise, right then, Grandma Karen, she was in the room during this interrogation. Now she was real calm too. She was in a rolling chair and she was just swaying back and forth left to right, very casually during the entire interrogation, and when the holes were brought up, she kind of chuckled and started laughing, and it kind of got the investigator's attention, and he turns and she says, yeah, and I told y'all to stop digging those holes because of the horses. So the detective was kind of surprised by this because that meant it was true. The grandkids would go out and would dig holes in the yard and it was stressful to the grandma because she was afraid their horses were going to step in these holes and break a leg. And so she said, yeah, sometimes we would make like traps with like sticks and stuff and to see what we, you know, kind of cover it up and see if maybe they could catch something in these holes. And y'all,

40:27 so it was true. The whole digging story was true. So they said, well, when's the last time you dug a hole and she said, well, I dug a hole on Sunday. Now that was the Sunday prior to Elizabeth going missing. And then they kind of discussed this further. Well, she had spent the prior like that weekend with her mom, her biological mom at her mother's place, and she got home around five o'clock. Well, grandma corrected her and said, no, it was more like six thirty. And so they're like, what do you mean more like six thirty? And she says, I picked you up at sixsh and it's about a thirty minute ride home. But this got the detective thinking, well, if that's the case, then that would mean that you were out digging a hole after dark on a Sunday.

41:14 And we gotta all admit that's kind of odd. Why would you be digging a hole in the dark. So Alyssa thinks about it for a minute and she says, oh, wait a minute, never mind, it had to be Friday. It was Friday, she said. We didn't have school, so I slept in until around noon, and her grandma had worked half a day. Her grandma got home around twelve thirty ish, and so she could confirm this as well. So Alyssa got up. She at some point went outside, was bored. She dug a rectangular hole, and when asked about it, that hole was a three foot by five foot rectangle. Now that looks like a grave. Okay, what I've just described you it looks like a grave, but it wasn't too deep. It was almost like she had been digging but then got to like the hard ground and hit roots or whatever, and it made it too hard to go further. And so the detective says, well, hey, can you show us where this hole is? And Alyssa says, yeah, no problem, and so they go out into the woods and sure enough, there it is. And when they got to it, it was very odd, almost cryptic, because the hole had not only been dug, but then it had been refilled with dirt. And you could tell that these holes were freshly dug because the mud on top of it was like a light brown, like the rain had somewhat packed it down, but still very obviously newly turned dirt.

42:43 And again that shape of the hole was very uncomfortable because it looked like a burial plot but small, three by five it's literally what it looked like. So obviously you're thinking what I'm thinking, and I'm thinking what the investigators were thinking, and they were thinking what is in this hole? The FBI started to excavate the hole, fully aware they were about to probably pull out the body of a child. So they dig in and they dig in. But surprisingly, and thankfully, there was nothing in this hole. Alisa was telling the truth. Thank god there was nobody in this hole. But Alissa's behavior and demeanor during that was just off putting to investigators. I can't give you more of an explanation other than a gut feeling. Just her behavior was off. It didn't seem normal. So they were left at this point with more questions than answers.

43:45 Now we've got this hole. The kid's not in it that we were looking for. Honestly, we're glad, but why is this weirdo out here digging holes? So they went back to little sister Emma again because she was the last one to see Elizabeth alive, you know, and she was again. Her story never wavered, it never changed. The only thing mentioned that caught the attention of the investigators was that she said that Elissa had come to help her get her foot unstuck from the thorn bush, and she said she noticed a spot of blood on her pants. Really, hmm, what is that from? So she said, well, I asked her why she had a spot of blood on her and she said it was because she was on her period and she didn't want her to share that with anybody, because that would be embarrassing. Okay, So the FBI now wants to come to their home and see if they can find anything evidentiary, as this was all really convenient that we have a missing child and we have a teenager with blood on her pants out digging holes randomly in the woods. Now they get into the house and they start searching. Alissa's room was messy, like most teens.

44:58 There was mountain deucans on this table at the foot of the bed. It was just very mismatched, very like punk looking type decor. I guess it wasn't really decorated. It just kind of kind of drab. But during the search they did find some things. They found some marijuana seeds, and they did find bottles of medication in Alyssa's room, but nothing else was really found. They did get her muddy jeans, the ones that she was wearing that had the blood spot on them, and they took those for testing. Now I'm gonna just tell you now spoiler alert. The blood on her jeans was tested and it was not the missing child's blood. It was Alyssa's blood, so that would result in nothing. But they also took her sheet they took her pillow case, but they also took her diary or her journal that she left in the house.

45:53 But of everything that they saw in this room, it was the walls of her room that were just interesting. Randomly taked on the walls were cards and photographs, but it was not of any organized fashion. It was just very like all over the place. And there was a birthday card that was on the wall, and I was going to read it to you. Well, it starts with sup. B day girl, and SUP. The S is a dollar sign symbol, because that's really cool. I love you. Well, you are fourteen. You are getting old before you know it. I will be out. I can't believe your mom was fourteen when she got pregnant with you, So please don't get pregnant like your mom. Okay, were you able to take your cell phone home? I hope. So. Do you like your birthday card? It's cool? Yeah, it's the best cake ever, isn't it. Write me back and tell me what you think of it. So what did you get for your birthday? I love you, Alyssa. Soon I will be out, so hang in there, love dad. Now, the grammatics in this not to be a petty wench. I know I'm gonna sound like that, but he spells write me back, wrght, write me back. And I also cleaned it up for you and read it as if it all made complete sense with the right words. But it doesn't.

47:10 It's a total hopknob mess of a card. But hey, at least he remembered his daughter was having a birthday, and at least he assumes that someone's going to buy her a gift for her birthday since he's not there to help or do any of it. All right, now, all this real? Nice dad, Thanks for the birthday card for your daughter. Now, there was also a poem that he wrote, but I'm not going to read that to you because it had so many grammatical errors and misspellings that I almost had a seizure trying to decipher what the hell it said. But I will post it on Patreon for you. I guess the whole reason that I'm sharing all this with you is that her dad wasn't much of a dad. It was just more like an idiot who had a kid at fourteen or fifteen, and he just really wasn't a father to her. But aside from her dad's stuff, that she had taped all on the wall. It was her wall writings that stood out so much that investigators took pictures of it. And when I say wall writings, I mean she literally took a pin to the sheet writing to the sheet rock, and the walls said things like raar raw r and the words and this is what it said. It was written in blood. Now that was all lowercase, and then underneath it in all caps it says it was written in blood. Like, what a weird thing to write on a wall. There was also a drawn person on the wall. It was very primitive looking. It looked like an outline of a person with a face. But then next to it it said the name Emma, like her little sister, and this person had slash marks on the face and the arms,

48:41 and then some of the writings looked to actually be written in blood on the wall. So circumstantially speaking, this girl as creepy as fuck. But that wasn't helping locate Elizabeth, who had now been missing for two days. So back to Alyssa's boyfriend that was again going to be questioned. Investigators interviewed this kid over and over and over again because they just felt like he wasn't telling the full truth. This kid's name was Dustin, and Dustin's vibe really mimicked Alissa's look and you know, kind of dark or whatever. And he was nervous from the jump when he was interviewed.

49:23 He was so nervous that they wanted to polygraph him. Okay, and he says, okay. Now, while a lot of questions were asked during this polygraph, three of those questions are going to stand out as super important to you the listener. Number one, did you physically cause Elizabeth's death? Number two, did you physically take her life? And number three, did you know anything or did you do anything physical that ended her life? And it's worded different ways to try to make sure it's worded where we'll elicit a reaction of some sort if it's true. Now, he answered no to all three of these questions, but the test result showed a very high level of response in his body for those specific questions. And so that autonomic response that your body has, that is what is an indicator of when you are either lying or that you know something in regards to those questions, which was causing his adrenaline to spike. It was triggering a response in his body, like his heart rate goes up, his perspiration, his breathing rates, all of that. So they fly out tell him Brook, you failed this polygraph. You did not pass it. And you can clearly see him in the video because they video this interrogation that he is breathing heavy and you can even see his heart pounding, his shirt physically kind of bumping while they continue this interrogation, and he's telling them, look,

50:57 I failed it just because I'm nervous. But if you know anything about polygraphs, they give these baseline questions which are used to kind of see what your beginning, you know, regulation of your body is, and that's why they do that. It rules out nervousness. So if you're already nervous, it's going to register high nerves on the test and that becomes your baseline. They're not stupid, Okay, there's a rhyme and reason to all of this. So detectives explain it to him, and then the detective using his pointer finger, he leans in and he taps Dustin straight in the chest with that pointer finger. He taps him. He said, let me tell you something, Bud. Your heart can't lie, meaning your body is giving you away, and he just taps him in the chest. Now they told him a little bit more. They told Dustin, guess what, buddy, we also have a witness that claims to have seen a teenager that looks remarkably like you, right near where we think Elizabeth was last seen. And so this was kind of during those that canvas that they were doing. And so the witness that they had found, they showed this gentleman a picture of Dustin's license, the photo on his license, and the witness said, yeah, that was him. He was wearing a black hoodie and he was wearing jeans, and he was standing off by a guard rail by himself. Now, when he was confronted with that, Dustin's reaction was anger at that claim that he had been there and that someone had ideed him. So that anger could mean either

52:28 he resented it because it wasn't true, or it could just be again another reaction. But they weren't getting much more from him in it at this point. But now they're back at Alyssa and they're continuing to interrogate her and becoming much more specific. They even bring out a map and they asked her to draw the trail and where she walked in the woods and all of that, which she does, and she shows the creek, she shows where she walked, and she draws it all back. But when she's pressed about the exact timing, she turns to her grandmother and again Grandma's kind of casually swinging back and forth in the chair very gently. But Grandma she didn't know the exact timing because she wasn't with Alissa at that time. This is where the point in that interview there is a deep shift, and it becomes very evident because the detective leaned in and advised Alyssa of something that she didn't know, and that's that they read her journal, remember when they took it during the search, and that included the day of Elizabeth's disappearance, and the entry in that journal was roughly a third of a page long, but it had been scratched out with a blue pen minus the last sentence, and that last sentence read Okay, I gotta go to church now. Lol. So Alissa shook her head in agreeance and said, yeah, that's

54:02 my journal, And the detective then goes, well, guess what we're able to detect what was written underneath that scratch out when he says that Melissa all of a sudden becomes rigid as a stone, and her once relaxed demeanor now was very still and eyes lucked on this detective. And that's when it's realized that there was more to this journal entry than Alyssa realized. People could see now. There were other writings too, things that said like, when I get frustrated, I bottle it up inside and someone is going to have to die. There was another one that said she fantasized about burning down a house and killing the people inside. And without telling you what the rest of the journal said, or telling her what the rest of the journal said, the detective leaned in and said, was this an accident? Like that right, like just came straight out of his mouth. Was it an accident? And Alissa, after a little bit more pressing, finally broke down and admitted.

55:08 She said, yes, it was an accident. Elizabeth fell and hid her head, which she died from. Alisa then said that she panicked, she freaked out, and she threw her body into the swiftly moving creek. Well. The usually relaxed grandmother to this point, who was gently swiveling back and forth, in her chair. That chair movement just came to a complete stop when Alyssa said that it was like she was processing what was being said and could not believe what she had just heard. And when it hits her, she literally almost falls out of the chair and she makes this guttural groan like, oh my god. They have to actually stop the interview at that moment, which is not good during a confession, you don't want to ever stop it. But they have to get Grandma out of the room. They have to get her out of the room because she starts screaming and yelling at the top of her lungs, oh my god, Oh my god. As she exits the room, just sobbing, telling someone I'm gonna pass out, I'm gonna pass out. She was so horrified that someone, I can only assume, in an attempt to calm her down, must have said something, now, this is outside of the room, okay, She's now outside of the of the room. I'm thinking someone said to something to the effect of it's going to be okay, because what she yells out in response could be heard through the

56:40 walls and is caught on the tape as the interrogation of her granddaughter continues, Now the detective is gonna be talking for a second, but it's the background that I want you listening for. Here, listen for yourself, because what grandma yells out is the God's honest truth, and she knew it. You try to do the whole, my best jo. She realized it was too hard to dinar could could you make it out? Because if not from outside of that room, she screamed, it's never gonna be okay. That's what she yelled. It is never going to be okay.

57:21 But what Grandma did not know was that that first confession it wasn't even the truth. She would wish it were the truth. When after a few versions were told to the detective, they finally got the truth of what had happened to young Elizabeth. See, the detective hadn't yet told her what the scratched out portion of the journal said. Of course she knew, because she wrote it. But I want to tell you what did it say, because I'm going to read it to your word for word quote. I just fucking killed someone. I strangled them and lit their throat and stab them and now they are dead.

58:04 I don't know how to feel at the moment, it was amazing. As soon as you get over the oh my god, I can't do this feeling, it's pretty enjoyable. I'm kind of nervous and shaky though right now, Okay, I got to go to church now. Lol. It completely changes the snark of what that last sentence meant. It's almost mocking. So here is what happened. The day that Elizabeth went missing. Emma went over and innocently asked her friend Elizabeth to come over and play. They did so, and on her way back home when she was supposed to return at six o'clock, just as she told her mama she would, at some point Alissa appeared and convinced the little girl to go through like a walking trail with her in the woods. So they were walking and they were chatting normally. This was her friend, this was her sister's, her friend's sister, a trusted girl in the neighborhood.

59:08 And as Elizabeth was walking, they were chatting. Everything was normal, but Elizabeth was in front of Alissa at one point, and that's when Alissa jumped on her from behind, put her hands around that nine year old little girl's throat and began to squeeze the life out of her. And as little Elizabeth struggled to breathe, and she pulled, and she scratched and she tugged at Alissa's hands, Alyssa continued to squeeze harder and harder and harder, until Elizabeth got woozy from the lack of oxygen and eventually would stop breathing, collapsing straight back onto her back on the ground. And what Little Elizabeth didn't know was that her friend, her sister, her friend's sister had concealed a large kitchen knife in her waistband the entire time that they were just walking and chatting through the woods, So at that point she had jumped on top of the little girl, she pulled it out. Now, she told investigators she stabbed Alissa twice, but the autopsy would eventually show that she stabbed her eight times in the chest. And if that weren't enough, as Elizabeth were either dead or dying, she then slid that knife across her throat, slitting it open and ensuring imminent death. She said that she then in her last confession,

1:00:43 she said that she then dug the hole before heading home. But there was just one problem with this, How the fuck did you dig a hole if you don't have a shovel with you? Does it make sense? So? How how did she dig the hole? Great question? At first, she just claimed that it was a coincidence that she maybe had just dug a hole prior and and that's why, you know, she was able to put a Lissa somewhere near it. But then she later slipped up in the interrogation and she made it crystal clear what had happened. Remember when she couldn't remember which day she dug the hole. You remember that she kind of went back and forth. It's because there wasn't just one hole out there, there were two. She had dug two holes. There was another hole in the woods, one that she dug nearly a week earlier. Because she had planned all along to murder nine year old Elizabeth a week in advance. She went out there and she dug that child's grave. The hole that she had first shown detectives wasn't where Elizabeth was.

1:01:53 There was another hole deep in the woods that police had not found, and Elizabeth had now been lying in that hole for three days. Well, where is the knife? You know? That was the next question, where's the murder weapon? What happened with the knife and her answer as if what she had just said wasn't just jaw dropping for a fifteen year old girl, her answer was even more shocking. She says, it's in the sink, and the detective is like, what the sink like at your house? She says, yeah. After she drug Elizabeth into the hole, she used her hands to fill it back up, which is why she was muddy whenever she went and helped to get her sister unstuck. But here's the thing. She hadn't heard her sister yelling from her bedroom window as she had claimed. No, she was coming back out of the woods after having just murdered a nine year old girl when she just casually walked up helped her sister unstuck her, and then she still had the knife on her. I think she said it was in her waistband. She walks into the kitchen of the house, washes all of the blood off, and then just drops it in the sink. I guess, grum.

1:03:00 I'm was just going to get to cook with it later. So after this confession, Alissa was brought back out into the woods, where she then led them to the crudely buried body of nine year old Elizabeth Olton. Her cell phone was still in her pants pocket when she was dug out of the ground. Here's the thing, the search for her cell phone was done as if it were on the ground somewhere. The police had not scoured the ground for signs of a makeshift grave, so that's why they couldn't find it upon the initial search. When they got the ping, they were never imagining that she would have been buried underground. They thought that maybe the phone was dropped in the woods. But now the search was over and she was found, and as her family still sat at that table making buttons with her picture on it to aid in finding her, the investigators had to walk in and break the news to her that she had been located, but she would not be returning home to them. Now more information would come to light in this case that has left people wondering still today if everything is known about Elizabeth's murder, because eventually Elissa's boyfriend would be notified that the little girl's body had been

1:04:31 found and located, and when he got the news, he began to vomit, like rerrupt vomit at the reality of it. He would then confess to investigators that Elissa claimed that she had killed Elizabeth while she was at his house when they skipped school. Now, I'm not sure that she named her by name, but she said she had killed a little girl. Now, he didn't know if it was real or not. He thought that maybe she was being edgy or something, and I just said something. But while looking in her booksack, he found a knife and it kind of freaked him out. So he's like looking at her, like, explain this now in hindsight, I will let you know that knife was found and located. It was still in the book sack, but it was not the knife that was used to kill Elizabeth. But why hadn't he come forward when he knew that information while they were searching for this little girl. Why would you not come forward? Now?

1:05:26 His answer was simple, okay, he said, because she scared the shit out of me. She scared me. He told investigators he didn't want to say anything because if she had actually done something to this kid, he was scared that she might come for his sister or his mother. And then he said, and what if she finds out I said something and she comes and tries to kill people in my family? What if she gets out on bail and then she comes and she kills me. He even went so far as to say, what if she gets an ankle monitor and they let her out and then she cuts it off and then goes looking for my little I didn't want any of that to happen. Okay, well still, you'd think that you would come forward with that, but he didn't. Now. A further look into Alissa's social media presence showed someone very different from her behaviors and public persona at school, at least because she listed her hobbies online as cutting and killing people with some very creepy photos. She has like clown like makeup on. She's holding her fingers up to her head like to her temple like it's a gun. She took on the personality of a broken, depressed and terrorized team that whole life is paying type personality. But she also liked to film things where other people got hurt, like she loved putting this video up where her brother's got electric shock from an electric fence on the horse paddock. And the reality

1:06:56 is that she loved that. She loved it and she posted it because she was sadistic and she loved seeing other people in pain, it brought her joy. Now, I want to bring this up because it seems to be a common theme in damn near every episode I've ever done. But her mental health history was shocking considering what she did to Elizabeth, and the fact that her mental health history had been almost ignored is unbelievable. So Alissa Bustamante had attempted suicide at thirteen years old. She actually was put in a mental health facility as a result of this. Now, when she got out, the grandparents did everything they could do with her. They got her intensive outpatient therapy, but it wasn't working. And I say this because it's evidenced by the clinical notes. Just one month before the murder of this child, a mental health professional who had been taking care of Elissa for two years wrote that she was worried she was spiraling out of control and that her delinquent behavior would be increasing. The deceptive and manipulative side of Alyssa was real, though, because she called. Alyssa made a phone call to that very same therapist the day that Elizabeth was murdered, and she said, oh my god, there's police everywhere. This little girl is missing. It's stressing me out. Acting as if she knew nothing about this

1:08:28 missing child, trying to build in an alibi that she was freaked out. The history was there. What are we going to do? When are we going to recognize that when someone tells you or acts like they're crazy and posts that they want to kill people, maybe we ought to take it for what it is. I don't care if they're fourteen years old. We need to pay attention to it because look what happens. Nine year old Elizabeth Olton was buried in a pink coffin pulled by a horse drawn carriage just one week after she went missing, and fifteen year old Alissa Bustamante was arrested and charged with Elizabeth's murder, to which she incredibly pled not guilty, so her trial was set for January twenty sixth of twenty twelve, but before that could happen, she changed her plea deal or changed her plea to guilty of second degree murder as part of a plea deal, and on February eighth, twenty twelve, the court sentenced Alissa Bustamante to life in prison plus thirty years. And this case is just one that is so frustrating to me because a child lost her life at the hands of someone who was known to be clinically mentally ill. Just looking at her bedroom, you could tell there was something wrong with her.

1:09:56 But you have to ask yourself, this, with no pride, criminal history, what else could the grandparents do? What else could they do? They were getting her therapy, they had her on medication, They took her in, They gave her a stable home filled with love, They got her mental health care. They even moved her to a completely different area to give her a fresh start. But even after all of that, it wasn't enough. And that's why this case is so truly evil. No amount of life problems or childhood history could ever justify what this teen did, and it was for her own enjoyment. And by the way, even her grandfather told police it was strange the night of Elizabeth's murder because while Alissa called her counselor supposedly distressed and panicked, her grandfather told police that she was unusually happy and chipper that night after she had killed a child. Well, of course she was happy, and Chipper say to love to watch other people suffer. They enjoy the pain they cause. I don't care that she was a young teenager. She enjoyed it. She was feeling that dopamine hit like no other. She was high on the effects of murdering a nine year old girl. But in court she made a statement as she faced the family of Elizabeth, and this was her statement, I really am extremely,

1:11:29 very sorry for everything I know. Words can never be enough and they can never adequately describe how horribly I feel for all of this. If I could give my life to get her back, I would. I'm sorry. But all I hear when in that statement is a bunch of eyes. How she felt still playing almost a victim mentality in all of this, as if she had just made another childhood mistake or something along those lines. This was no accident. This was pre planned for a week. She dug a grave with an intention of putting a child in it. Mental health be damned. This is evil personified.

1:12:18 And while Alisa Bustamante wanted to see blood, and she told the investigators the reason that she killed nine year old Elizabeth was because she just wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone, it would be that very blood that she craved that would be so telling, because when she spent the day with her boyfriend skipping school. They didn't just hang out and watch TV and play a board game. No, they were having sex while there was no parenting home. And whenever he admitted this to police, he gave one very intimate detail about Alissa. She wasn't on her period. He knew because he was sleeping with her.

1:13:10 That blood on her pants was absolutely the result of her cutting herself, not menstruation, as she claimed. She cut herself while she was stabbing that child. After all of her need for blood, it was the lack thereof that would speak volumes as to her lies and her evil planning. She wanted the power, the moment, the story that she could carry like a secret crown. She wanted to know what it felt like to end to life, just once, purely to satisfy her curiosity. And after strangling and stabbing and slitting the throat of a nine year old little girl, she then threw her in a hole. Yes, because she wanted to see how it felt. She felt no regret, she felt just control. But here's the thing. Control doesn't last because evil like that doesn't get a clean ending.

1:14:15 It doesn't get peace, doesn't get silence. It gets time, long, unbroken time, with itself. Alissa is now in a world that knows exactly who and what she is. No one trusts her tears, no one believes her apologies, and she's now surrounded by people, yet utterly alone, Just like Elizabeth was as she lay underground while everyone searched right above her. Alyssa crossed the line that she can never step back over with an apology in court. There is no redemption arc waiting for her. There's no rheumatic moment that lets her feel important again. Just small rooms, long nights, and repetitive days. Imagine being locked in a cage surrounded by other evil people who don't like you. Must be scary, must be painful. And I'm just guessing, of course, because I don't know. But I'm glad that's where Alyssa is, and who knows. Maybe I'll check on her in another fifty years, but not because I care, just because I want to know how it feels.