Aug. 16, 2023
19 Day Devil Part 2

In this episode of Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings, Kelly continues the story she told at Unspeakable LIVE to the airwaves with this horrible case of mass murder starting in Livingston Parish Louisiana.
#19Daydevil #Unspeakable...
In this episode of Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings, Kelly continues the story she told at Unspeakable LIVE to the airwaves with this horrible case of mass murder starting in Livingston Parish Louisiana.
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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime
podcast where I tell stories of real crimes
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with real victims, whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how
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is this even real? I use
my experiences in law enforcement corrections and combine
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with my years as a criminal justice
educator, dig deep into complex cases of
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evil acts, some so evil many
feel they are unspeakable. Warning, Unspeakable
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is intended for mature audiences. If
you are easily offended, then I'm not
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your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, Kelly Jennings here,
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how are you doing? Welcome back
to Unspeakable. I have got so
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much for you today. I know
you've been waiting. I've been looking at
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the messages and people are saying,
I don't want to wait until the next
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episode comes out, do it now. Well, unfortunately, y'all know,
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I got two jobs, so I
got to do both of them. And
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one lady said, one lady said, she's legit bombed that I have a
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real job on top of podcasting,
and I said, me too, boo,
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me too. But that's okay.
So I've been doing all my homework
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though, getting it ready for y'all. But before we get started. I've
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got some shout outs, and I've
got to tell some more people hello,
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because our team is just growing by
the second. Let me start here last
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time, and when I gave a
shout out to a girl just named Kalin,
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it was kind of like all it
said was Kalin, but she did
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reach out to me and give me
the last name, so I'm gonna go
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ahead and give her her full shout
out this time, Miss Kalin Bowling,
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Hey girl, thank you for giving
me that last name, because I'm sure
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there's a lot of Kalen's in the
world. And then, because I'm not
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perfect, even though I try to
be, I actually combined two names because
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winner Winter Chicken Dinner there, So
I'm going to separate them now and acknowledge
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their two separate people. So Savannah
Renee, hey girl, all sorry,
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I actually combined you with Christy Reese, and I think I came up with
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Savannah Reese, which is not even
a real person. So hey Savannah,
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Hey Christy, thank y'all so much
for joining and becoming patron members with me.
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I've also got Miss Stephanie lume Is
how I believe you would pronounce that
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Welcome to Stephanie and then this crime
family y'all. Oh my goodness, a
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whole bunch of y'all joining. So
miss Darla Crowson, Hey, how are
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you? And Sarah Sherman, Emily
Fontineaux, Karen Russel, and Lynnette Hamilton.
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Welcome to my Crime Family, y'all. I'm so excited to have you.
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I hope that you've been checking out
all the things on my Patreon.
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I've been posting a little bit more. I've got photos, I'm adding,
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and there's just going to be so
much more coming down the pipe. But
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I wanted to thank y'all so much
for joining and becoming part of my crime
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family. But look, before I
even start this episode, do y'all know
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what happened on my very first day
back at school? Do you know?
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I bet you don't. How about
a freaking bomb threat? Day one?
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We didn't even make it the first
hour. We all had to be shuttled
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into a gym and the FBI showed
up and atf and it was like hold
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on to your butt crack because this
is not good. But luckily for us,
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we didn't blow up. It was
just some idiot who decided to cause
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chaos and try to make everybody and
their mama upset. There was nothing at
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the school, but hey, you're
gonna face some federal charges, Padna.
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If you're listening, I hope,
hope it was worth it because you,
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my friend, are about to be
in a shitload of trouble. But hey,
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the kids got to learn about momb
threats and now I'm going to start
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there in my curriculum whenever I'm teaching
them about nine on one dispatch. So
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thanks for the intro, I guess
if I have to give thanks. Now,
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if you remember last episode, we
are doing our nineteen Day Devil.
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This is part two and it is
all about the Dakota Tario story, but
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not him, actually his victims that
were focusing on. And this one takes
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a minute to get into. If
you recall there was a whole lot of
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players. Episode one I did on
my Facebook go post a family tree photo.
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So if you want to go back
and use your resources to see who
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the hell is who, please go
do that. It might help to lay
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this out for you. But mainly
last episode was about Dakota Terrio and then
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he had a wife named Kim.
Now him and Kim were young when they
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got married. It didn't work out. They ended up getting divorced, and
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he was an absolute domestic abuser.
He beat the shit out of Kilm and
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things were not, you know,
very good between the two of them.
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I thought, though, I'd back
up just a hair here today and go
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back to talking about his parents for
a second. If you remember, Dakota's
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parents were Lee and Keith Terrio,
Lee's real name being Elizabeth. But we're
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going to be about November of twenty
eighteen here, and that's when Dakota's father,
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Keith, and Dakota got into a
physical altercation that ended up breaking Keith's
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shoulder. The tensions were very high
at this time, but Dakota had remained
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in the home and everybody knew.
Look, you know, Dakota's mom always
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would try to de escalate things.
She would intervene, try to smooth things
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out whenever the two guys would tie
up into their fights and disagreements. It
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was very obvious that she loved her
son, but she also loved her husband.
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However, they were just firing gasoline. Keith and Dakota could not get
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it together. They just did not
get along, and Dakota always felt like
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she would take Keith's side, even
when she was defending Dakota. He would
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say, oh, no, you
took Dad's side. No one wants to
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listen to me. You know,
nobody loves me. YadA YadA ya.
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And again, Dakota's drug usage became
a huge issue about this time, and
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shortly before that fight with his father, Dakota was actually kicked out of a
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bar for acting like an absolute looney
tune and he was jumping on pool tables
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and was high as a kite and
acting like a fool. I read a
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report that the bartender from that bar
had written given her statements about how he
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acted that day, and basically it
sounds like he was meted out and acting
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like a total idiot. So,
you know, Dakota didn't even appreciate his
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mother's attempts to try to protect him
or to defend him, because you know,
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he repaid his mom's efforts by punching
her in the face outside of that
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bar. And then Dad got so
upset by that that he pulled a knife
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on Dakota. And it was just
a hot ass mess in this family of
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trying to handle him and deal with
each other. On top of this,
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Keith had shared which is Dakota's dad. Keith had shared something with the bartender
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that if you came to my live
event, I did not mention it wasn't
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because I didn't want to. It's
because I think I just had a lot
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going on and I failed to mention
it. But Keith had actually had a
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discussion with the bartender about how his
nine millimeter his weapon, his gun went
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missing, and he was pretty upset
about that because he knew where his gun
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was and it wasn't there anymore.
And he had actually confronted Dakota about his
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gun being missing. Now, when
he confronted confronted Dakota, that's when he
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found cocaine in Dakota's possession. So
the gun went missing, he went to
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go confront Dakota about it, and
then on top of that, he finds
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cocaine on Dakota. So on January
twenty first of twenty nineteen, that is
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when Dakota's parents kicked him out of
the house that they were all still sharing
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together. Also, remember they shared
with two other roommates, Jacob Chastnall and
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their other friend, Kim Minks,
So there was a lot of people in
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this house. But they kicked him
out and this is just five days before
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we would have mass murder, so
they kicked him out. You know,
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he wasn't contributing to the home.
He had these chronic violent tendencies. His
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anger issues combined with dope just made
it absolutely impossible to live with him.
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And it turns out that at on
top of the cocaine, he was also
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doing crystal meth as well as smoke
and marijuana. So he's doing uppers and
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downers and all rounders, if you
will, and it just wasn't making things
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easy. So Dakota's problem also was
with authority. And this is well documented
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because I don't I'm not sure if
I mentioned this last episode or not,
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But going back a few years,
Dakota had entered the military whenever he was
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married to Kim. That's why he
had hurried and married Kim. He had
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entered the military because he wanted to
go try to make something of himself after
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he had been kicked out of high
school and went to that YCP program.
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And you know, he actually didn't
make it very long in that program in
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the military. Because you want to
know why, you know, was it
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a medical reason got kicked out?
Did he get hurt in action. Was
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it something along those lines, something
honorable kind of No, he got kicked
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out because he punched his superior in
the face, which got him a dishonorable
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charge. And he was basically just
not getting the hint that he couldn't behave
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that way. When he returned home
from the military, he made no life
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changes. I mean there was literally
it's like he did not sit down and
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reflect on the fact that he was
a complete asshole. He like totally missed
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the boat there that maybe it's a
me problem not a everybody else problem,
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and so he just kept doing what
assholes do, causing problems wherever he went.
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So his parents, like I told
you, kicked him out of the
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house. He had beat the hell
out of his wife and she had been
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done with him as well, and
so he really had nowhere to go at
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this point. Now, something I
didn't tell you last episode, but I
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want to go back and tell you
right now, is that about the time
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that Dakota joined the military. So
I know you're like, Kelly, you
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keep going backwards, but I kind
of want to add these things in.
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Something happened that is going to play
an integral role here shortly, But it
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didn't seem like it was as series
of an issue when it happened. So
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right before he went to the military, he and his wife, Kilm because
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they were still married at the time, had gone to a waffle house.
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Now, at this waffle house,
they actually met up with a police officer.
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She was a state trooper who was
mentoring Kilm Dakota's wife at the time,
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and was trying to help her,
you know, with some life advice
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and help her to make better decisions
about her life. Will Dakota was with
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her while they went to this waffle
house. And they went to the waffle
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house was an Ascension Parish, which
is kind of a neighboring parish of Livingstone
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Parish where I am. And while
they were there and talking about making better
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life decisions, the officer said,
well, you know, they looked hungry,
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they looked tired or whatever. So
I said, come on in,
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I'll buy you something to eat.
The officer even remembered I bought her a
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cheeseburger. Right. Well, while
they're eating and discussing life choices, is
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Dakota just flat out starts telling this
officer that he doesn't like the police and
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he's not gonna like the police.
And she inquired as to why, and
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basically it was because he's never had
good interactions with them. Now, why
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has he never had good interactions with
them? Because he's never doing anything positive.
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He's always high or cracked out or
whatever his decision making was at that
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time. And so every time they
come around, they're handling something right.
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And so she tells them, we'll
look, you know, maybe you've just
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had bad experiences with police, because
thus far you haven't had gotten to have
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a positive interaction with a police officer. So let's make this a good one.
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Nice to meet you, right,
I'm officer so and so, And
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she bought them dinner and he said, well maybe so whatever. But he
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then goes on to talk about how
much he hates his parents and that he
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can't get along with his parents.
They don't, you know, like him.
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He doesn't like them, and goes
on to tell this officer about how
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he hopes one day to be able
to get a shotgun kicking their door or
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kill them and then hopefully the police
will kill him. Right, that kind
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of murdered by suicide thing. Now, before we go further, I know
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right now, you're like, wait, he said that, and the cop
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didn't do anything. All right,
I hear you. But when you're dealing
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with troubled youth and it's not a
direct threat, he doesn't say I'm going
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to get the shotgun, I'm going
to kill them. It was more like,
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I wish I could just do this. You got to kind of sometimes
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mitigate what you're dealing with. And
so she didn't know Dakota, Well she
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did, no kil she's talking to
them. She obviously tried to talk him
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out of it and said, obviously
that's a terrible idea. How about we
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try to make some positive changes in
your life where you could go further.
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You should join the military, right, you could get housing, you could
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get money, you can get training, schooling. And she tried to just
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redirect that attention. Now, and
I know some people reached out to me
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that went to the live when I
mentioned this and was like, ally,
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that officer should have done something because
he obviously went crazy in the future.
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Well, I think the officer did
what she could do. You know what
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I'm saying. He didn't say I
have a gun and I'm going to kill
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them. He didn't say I'm going
when I leave here to kill them.
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He just said it would just be
easier. I wish I could just get
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rid of them, and wishing something
is not a direct threat. You gotta
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have probable cause. And I don't
think that it really met the muster of
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that. I think it was more
of like a kid mouth than off.
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He just looked like a kid who
didn't have much guidance, and she tried
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to redirect and give better guidance.
All right, So just to address that,
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that's kind of where I think things
were at that time. So kind
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of going back to where we left
off last episode, we were talking about
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how Dakota had gotten arrested for beating
the hell out of kilm and a lot
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of injury to her. He knocked
her front bottom teeth out, there was
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bruising to the side of her face. He had destroyed her car, and
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so she was done with him.
Even though they were divorced. This had
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happened, and I went and got
some more of my records to kind of
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address this a little bit further about
what happened. And whenever you look at
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the narrative written by the police office
or when this occurred. I was reading
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through it, and it says that
they were married for you know, approximately
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a year and then they got divorced, and that Kim had remained intimate with
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Dakota after they divorced. And I
don't think this is that far fetched of
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an idea. She loved him,
He just was abusive to her. And
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so the fact that they divorced but
still remained intimate, like, let's get
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real. We all know divorces where
that happens. Okay, we all know
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divorces where that happens. They just
can't make that clean cut. But she
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also advised the police officers at this
time that he had been diagnosed as bipolar
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schizophrenic and that he was currently homeless
right because he'd been kicked out of his
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parents house. And you know,
even though they were divorced, they still
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sometimes would stay together. But this
was something that is so common. Kim
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did not wish to report the previous
incidences to the police because she feared for
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his well being. She said,
in her young mind, he's totally ill,
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and policing is not going to solve
his problem. And to her point,
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I think that's true. You know, when you go to jail,
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you know, if you don't have
all of your ducks in a row and
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the police don't know that you've been
diagnosed schizophrenic and you don't have your medication
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on you, it can make things
evolve and become worse. Matter of fact,
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true story. I was at the
casino with my sweetheart husband Blake,
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and we were just having a good
little weekend out and this woman sat down
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next to us, and I don't
know what happened. She and I just
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hit it off. Wonderful lady.
We're just having a good time. And
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as the conversation evolved just to this
point is why I'm kind of sidestepping here.
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She said, did you ever hear
the story about the guy in Baton
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Rouge last year who went into prison
and then ended up committing suicide? And
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y'all, that happens a lot,
but I did know the actual instance she
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was talking about, And she said
what happened was that he was a diagnosed
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schizophrenic and when he went into the
jail, he was telling them that he
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was hearing voice. But he passed
the check that they do. He passed
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everything at the time that he went
into the jail, But then he started
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asking for medication. They don't have
any medication to give him. They're not
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doctors, and there's nothing documented,
and he ended up committing suicide, and
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she believed that his schizophrenia, which
was not acknowledged at that time, is
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what resulted in his death. Well, I could kind of see here in
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that same instance why Kim would be
upset because she didn't think that the jail
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was really going to help him.
Now, something else that jumped out to
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me, And if you're watching right
now on Patreon, you can look.
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Jimothy grabbed this and pull it forward
to the camera. This is the actual
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records, Okay, that I went
and pulled, so I'm not just reading
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from something I read online. This
is her actual report and on here.
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Something that was interesting to me too
is that Kim Terrio, and this is
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a direct quote, kept the abuse
by Dakota Terrio hidden from her parents until
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today, which was August fifteen,
twenty seventeen, because what happened was after
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he hurt her so severely and knocked
her teeth out, she went to her
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parents home and it caused a disturbance
in the home and they were shocked to
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see what had happened to her.
Kim's parents told her to report his transgressions
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to the police. And that is
why she went and she told at that
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point, y'all, this is so
common. If you could see the messages
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of people that are sent to me
privately saying thank you so much for bringing
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this to a people's attention, because
so many people are in domestic abuse situations
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but they don't speak up because they
fear the person that's hurting them, but
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they also love the person, whether
it's misguided or not, and they don't
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want something to happen to them.
But y'all failure to failure to come forward
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and to handle this domestic violence at
this point in time, I'm not blaming
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Kim. Please do not misread what
I'm telling you or misunderstand it. But
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what if all of those times could
have compounded and his ass was in a
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jail and he wouldn't have been free
to do the things that are about to
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come? Just what if? And
I don't want him to carry that burden.
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She's a victim, but what if. If you are in a domestic
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violent situation, please tell people,
Please tell people whoever it is, because
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if not, it escalates. And
every domestic violence expert that I know that
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I've spoken to, and with everything
that I've ever researched. It only escalates.
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It only escalates people if someone's willing
to knock your teeth out and bash
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your face in. If you don't
think they're capable of killing you, you're
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missing something very very important there.
They're capable. They are absolutely capable.
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So something else. Further on down
on the report, the officer wrote,
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it should be noted when asked if
she wished to pursue charges against a Codo
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Tario for her damaged property. Remember
he tore up her car or bashed the
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windshield in, broke the mirrors off, She advised she did not want to
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pursue the charges. And it probably
sounds crazy to someone right now, what
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you tear my car up, blah
blah blah blah blah. That's easy for
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you to say if you don't love
somebody. She loved him right or wrong,
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you know. Then. Even sadder
to me is that the officer wanted
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her to seek medical attention because she
was hurt. And the reason that she
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did not want to seek medical attention
from this incident is due to her not
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having insurance and monetary funds. This
is common in domestic abuse. You can't
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afford the medical bills. So even
if you want to go to the hospital
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because your teeth are knocked out,
or your eye socket is broken, or
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your arm is sprained, or your
leg is injured, or your eye is
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blacked, or your hair is ripped
out, or whatever the issue is,
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it's not come. It's not common
that this is someone who comes from a
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low socioeconomic status. They don't have
the money to pay the bill, so
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they just don't go. It's like
it just compounds itself. Right, she
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didn't want to go because she couldn't
afford the bill. That's heartbreaking to me.
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That money keeps you from getting medical
attention. So this whole report is
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just heartbreaking. They got statements from
them, and they made note about everything
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that had happened to her. They
did attempt to contact Dacoda Tarryo buy his
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phone number that they had at the
time, but they were unable to contact
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him, and this officer did leave
a voicemail request and that Dakota would contact
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him, and at that point the
case was what it was until they were
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able to find him and bring him
in and question him. Now, they
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do end up getting ahold of him
and he does end up getting arrested on
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this charge. And the thing that
that goes into play here is a thing
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called Gwen's Law. Now I am
going to do an episode on this.
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I think it's just crazy important law
for people in Louisiana to know. This
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went into effect in Louisiana a few
years ago, about twenty seventeen. But
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basically, Gwen's Law sets the rules
and the standards for hearings before bail is
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set. If the person who is
arrested under like domestic abuse, battery,
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or violation of a protective order,
stalking, something along those lines, they
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have to go before a judge before
their bail can be set. And like
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I said, I will do an
episode on this because I want y'all to
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know it. Y'all. Information is
so powerful, it's so powerful to have.
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But Gwen's Law came into effect here
because this was a domestic abuse battery
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case right where he beat the hell
out of her and she was injured severely.
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It wasn't like she just had a
bruise, her teeth were knocked out
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right. And on this Gwen's Law
checklist again, if you're looking, guys,
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I have the report right here,
the actual report. They go through
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this screening of him, and it
goes through his criminal history, and on
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the criminal history it does show that
he has two counts of theft. He
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does have a possession of weed drug
paraphernalia. He's got an aggravated flight from
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an officer, obstruction of justice.
He's got a lot of charges here,
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including an arrest with possession of believe
marijuana, and his dad was actually with
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him during that arrest. But you
know, on this protective warrant, this
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Gwen's Law checklist, it goes through
the fact that the victim here was severely
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injured, that they took photos,
and that they did get the nine one
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one call, and that they're trying
to follow up to see how serious was
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this incident and doesn't meet the muster
of Gwen's Law where he should not be
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immediately released with just some kind of
preset bail. He needs to go before
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a judge. A judge needs to
hear this to determine how serious of an
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issue is this. Okay, Now, based on this incident, the arrest
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warrant was signed, and part of
this was that even though the arrest warrant
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was issued, the victim here Kim
tells them that she moved to Mississippi and
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kept saying, I don't think I
want to press any charges because you know,
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I don't want She kept being refused
to be interviewed, and she doesn't
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want to come to the office.
She's in Mississippi, and she kind of
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the there's actually a handwritten note here
by one of the officers that says you
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can't prosecute a victimless crime. I
don't know if Kim said that or if
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Dakotas said that, but you can
see how there was a whole bunch going
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on here. But it is stamped
by the jail, so I do know
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that this was taken into consideration when
he went to jail. If you're watching
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right now, if you're a patron
member, you can kind of see up
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here at the big top where it
says jail now one this same instance of
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Gwen's Law checklist. Guess what else? A protective order was put into place.
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And I have the protective order here
too. So on this protective order
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at the top, it is marked
with a bail restriction right, and Gwen's
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Law puts that into place that you
can't just issue. Okay, let me
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tell you all this. Some charges
have preset bail for them. So like
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if you go in on a you
know, like a DWI, or you
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go in on like a misdemeanor charge
or something. I don't know what they
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are. Don't have the list in
front of me, but they have preset
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amounts, so it's not like you
have to have a judge tell you every
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single time. It's like a list
that they could look at. But this
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took that opportunity away because of Gwen's
law. Now, after this arrest,
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there was a protective order put into
place, which I have here, and
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there's going to be something interesting in
here that It's crazy that a protective order
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sounds so official to people, but
I want people to understand a protective order
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is literally what I'm holding right now. Can you hear it? It's a
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piece of paper. Real quick?
Do you think this stops a bullet?
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Has anyone ever met a piece of
paper that stops a bullet? Because I
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haven't. Okay, A protective order
is kind of like a CYA for you.
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That means, once you're murdered,
I guess they have something to go
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back on to hold the person who
is abusing you accountable. And I don't
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mean this ugly against the courts or
the judges or the police officers. I'm
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just telling you it's a formality.
But if someone is absolutely out to kill
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you, this does nothing. Please
understand that if you're in a situation where
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you have to get a protective order, the paper is a formality. It's
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not going to stop a bullet.
And I'm going to prove that to you
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shortly. But on this protective order, it shows there were bail restrictions,
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and it shows that a hearing was
held. The judges and the courts are
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doing their job. This was actually
in the twenty fourth Judicial District of Jefferson.
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One of the things that is on
here that is marked is that per
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this protective order, the order was
issued after actual notice and an opportunity to
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participate in the hearing, and it
was provided to the defendant. The court
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found that the defendant represents a and
here's the key, credible threat or danger
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to the physical safety of the protected
person. The court believed, Yeah,
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this guy's a problem. He's dangerous. He's so dangerous. We need to
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put something into effect here to keep
this woman protected. Right, and guess
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what part of that part of that
he has been charged with a crime against
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a family member, household, household
member, or dating partner, and has
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been charged with the crime of stalking. Thus, the defendant is prohibited from
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possessing a firearm. Do you remember
a minute ago me telling you that his
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dad told Bartender that his gun was
missing and he thought that Dakota stole it.
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It's because this ain't rocket science.
This is not rocket science. This
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guy's dangerous. Mental illness to be
damned. I don't care if he has
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mental illness in this situation. He's
dangerous and dangerous. Trump's the mental illness
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issue here. It doesn't mean that
we don't need to take that into account.
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It doesn't mean dang that sucks.
His brain's misfiring, he needs to
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be on some type of medication.
I'm not discounting that. But what this
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is telling you is he's dangerous.
He poses such a threat we don't even
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want him in possession of a firearm. And I know he's been told because
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it's initialed. He knows this.
The problem is that we have people in
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this country who don't give a damn
what we tell them. They're called criminals.
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The good people suffer. The criminals
don't give a shit. You know,
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if you go to a school right
now, there's a sign out front
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that says revised statute whatever per your
state, and it says this is a
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firearm free zone, when the reality
is the only person without a gun on
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campus are the teachers and the students. But the bad guy who walks up
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is absolutely going to have one,
because it's just a fucking sign that tells
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you we're sitting ducks. It's kind
of like this piece of paper. It's
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just a sign that she's a walking
duck, and a defenseless one at that
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right, he's not supposed to have
a gun. It says you are hereby
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ordered not to abuse, harass,
assault, stalk, followed, track,
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monitor, or threaten the protected person
Kimberly Terrio. You are ordered not to
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contact the person personally through a third
party through a public posting by any means,
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including written, telephone, or electronic, text, email, social media.
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You are ordered not to go within
two hundred feet of this person.
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You are ordered not to contact this
person's family personally through a third party through
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any posting, telephone, written,
electronic. You were ordered not to go
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with one hundred yards of her residence. You are ordered not to go to
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the person's protective person's school, or
the protective person's place of employment. And
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why am I telling you this?
Why am I so fired up about it?
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Because he was ordered not to go
near Kim, But guests who was
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never privy to this information, Guests
who never knew how dangerous he was.
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Guests who never had the opportunity to
know how dangerous he was. I'm gonna
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tell you who she was. Her
name was Summer Earnest. Because while he
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was given all of these direct orders
by a court to stay away from Kim,
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Summer never knew it. She never
had the opportunity to be protected.
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She never had a voice for herself. Why Because Summer only knew him a
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total of five days before she tried
to help him by saying, Daddy,
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can he move in with us because
he's been kicked out of his home and
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he doesn't have anywhere to go.
Summer didn't know all of this. This
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is where we kind of as a
society need to talk to each other and
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go wait a minute, Wait a
minute, wait a minute. The law
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did what it was supposed to do. It recognizes that he's dangerous to the
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point that they think he might kill
his ex wife helly borderline tried to He's
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hurt his parents, he's been kicked
out of the military, he's dangerous,
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he's doing drugs. And we've got
this piece of paper to protect her,
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but nobody else knows about it.
And here's our poor Summer Earnest, the
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girl that met him at a funeral
five days before tragedy, and she doesn't
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know how could she? A goodhearted
person looks for the good in people.
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It's a double edged sword, right. He even had a notice to defendant,
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And here's the docket number two one
seven two one nine, two nine.
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I've got the form right here.
He knew he should not be in
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possession of a firearm for any reason. That means he shouldn't be going to
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get one. That means he shouldn't
get one from someone else, and that
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means no one else should provide one
to him. And obviously he shouldn't steal
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one. But guess what, he
gets a hold of one. Now.
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Something even crazier about this, And
I'm actually going out of order of what
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I plan to do, but hey, it's my podcast and my brain's add
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so I'm going to go there is
that in the future we're actually going to
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discuss this possession of the firearm,
because there is a written statement of Summer's
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stepmother, Casey, where she acknowledges
that she knew he had the gun.
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She knew he had a gun in
their home, and according to the report
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and the written statement that I'm reading, he held the gun up on a
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couple of occasions in their home,
which I'm not trying to judge Casey,
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Okay, I'm not, but that
would alarm me if someone who just moved
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into my home that I don't know
that's couch surfing, couch surfing, is
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holding a firearm, especially when I
have two little ones in my home.
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But she knew he had the gun
because he held it up and showed it
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to her and then said sh and
slid it back under a pillow. So
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I don't know if Casey was afraid. I don't know exactly what the situation
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was at this point, but they
knew he had a gun. But I
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guarantee you Kim probably didn't know that
he was not supposed to be in possession
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of one, thus didn't realize necessarily
what danger she might have been in.
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Right, all right, So let's
talk about Summer Ernest Summers the girl that
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met Dakota at the funeral. Right
she accompanied her dad, Billy two to
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that funeral of a family friend.
So I've got some pictures of Summer right
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here in front of me, and
I just can't It doesn't matter. I've
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said before that she's a beautiful girl, but she is, and she's a
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happy girl. She's miling. She's
got long brown hair and big brown eyes
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and beautiful white teeth, and it
just seems like your salt of the earth
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kid, just trying to make her
way in life. And at this point,
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00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.680
remember she and her boyfriend had broken
up. Sean she went and she
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moved in with her dad. Dad
Billy helped her move into the home.
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It was Billy and Casey ernest home, and shortly thereafter that's when they met
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Dakota, and Dakota didn't have anywhere
to go, and she says, Dad,
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can Billy excuse me, can Dakota
move in with us? Now?
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From people that I've spoken to,
Billy gave a little pushback at first,
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They that he didn't necessarily want this
guy moving into the home with his daughter
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and his wife and his kids.
He didn't really know the guy. But
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00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:46.920
then it kind of started being more
like, you know, maybe maybe he
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could help around the house, maybe
he could be helpful to me. And
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they lived in a little trailer off
of Courtney Road in Walker, Louisiana.
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And I've got a picture of it
right here. It's just your average rund
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of the meal, you know,
single wide trail, and it's just in
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a trailer park. Nothing big,
fancier special. But the fact that these
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people let him move in when they
already had a full home, to me,
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tells you something about them. That
they were kind, that they were
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willing to open their door to an
absolute stranger just to help him get on
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his feet. He didn't have anything
to offer them. Obviously he's an asshole.
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But I don't think that they knew
the extent of what they were dealing
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with. I really don't think they
knew. So he's moved in now to
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their trailers. So in the trailer
just a recrap, recrap. Hey,
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00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:37.960
you know what, No, keep
it in, keep it in up.
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00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.519
Yeah, this is a recrap because
this is a whole crap fest about to
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happen. Billy Ernest, his wife
Casey Ernest or in this trailer. They
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have two small children, Heaven and
Christopher. Plus they have Summer who just
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moved in with them because she broke
up with her boyfriend. And they have
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Tanner Ernest, which is Summer's brother, who comes to visit. Okay,
481
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.920
and there's another brother too named Hunter
who comes to visit. So there's a
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lot of people that are in and
out of this trailer that live there.
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But what people to open their door
when he has nothing to offer them or
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00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.960
to help them with. And that
just shows you the genuineness of Billy Earnest
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Heart that he would do that because
this guy had nothing to nothing to offer.
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00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:30.039
Now, let me tell you a
little bit about Billy Ernest. Okay,
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I never met him. I've spoken
to a lot of people that knew
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him, and y'all, this was
a good guy. This is a good
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man. He was a blue collar
worker. He was forty three years old,
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white male. And the pictures of
him, he always has a mustache,
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brown hair, average build. Every
picture that I see of him,
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he is smiling a thousand watts smile. I'm telling you, just grinning ear
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to ear. The picture I'm looking
at right now, he's got his arms
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thrown around his sister. He's always
got his LSU baseball cap one. He's
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just a genuinely nice, blue collar
dude. He's remarried, like we said
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to Casey Ernest, and he is
the proud father of five children, the
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five children being Summer Tanner Hunter,
which are his three biological children with Rhonda
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that he divorced or that got divorced. Then he's got Heaven, which was
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not his biological child, but he
raised since she was born, and then
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Christopher, and he was proud of
those children. He was a daddy,
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He loved his children, and everything
I read about him just said he was
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a nice guy. And I even
pulled his obituary because to me, obituaries
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00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:50.039
you can learn about people from those, and this was a direct quote.
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00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.400
Billy Ernest was described as a kind
hearted, trusting soul who lived his life
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for the Lord, his family,
and LSU. And in that order,
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that should tell you about somebody,
right. And y'all were from the South
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00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.920
down here, you better bleed purple
and gold on Saturday and black and gold
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00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.159
on Sunday. Don't even play.
Don't get it twisted, right, But
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00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:14.440
this guy loved Jesus. He was
a follower of Jesus. He loved his
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family, and he loved sports.
And what I'm gonna do for you is
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I actually have a video of Billy
on his front porch, and I think
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I think videos are really nice because
you can kind of learn about someone's temperament
513
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:30.119
and their style and their way of
being. And he's actually singing a gospel
514
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.159
song. He even gets choked up
at one point while he's singing it and
515
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.599
his voice cracks and his lip quivers. But I'm gonna post that video for
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00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:37.719
you so you can kind of get
to know Billy, because I feel like
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you should. You know, he
was a nice man, But Billy Ernest
518
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:49.079
was a good guy who opened his
door to a stranger five days before mass
519
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:53.320
murder. Now, within those few
days, family members start kind of speaking
520
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:58.239
up and saying, you know what, I don't think I like this guy
521
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:02.840
that's moved into the home. I'm
kind of I don't know, I'm not
522
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.159
liking this guy. Now, who
was it that said that they weren't liking
523
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.159
him? Well, Kelvin. Now, if you remember, that's Summer Tanner
524
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.599
and Hunter's stepdad. If you will, they're not actually married. Ronda and
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00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:16.519
Kelvin are not married, but just
to keep it easy, that's their stepdad.
526
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:21.719
Their stepfather figure Kelvin turned to the
family at one point and said,
527
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.079
I don't like that guy. He's
on drugs. I don't trust him.
528
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.280
Billy Summer's dad had a brother.
His name was Jonathan, and Jonathan even
529
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.400
said I don't think I like him. That dude's trash. You need to
530
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:38.519
get him out of your house.
Billy's own mother, which is Summer's grandmother,
531
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.480
said Dakota is no good. Now, don't get it twisted. These
532
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.679
people are not saying they're better than
anybody. It wasn't about that. It
533
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:50.239
was just that Dakota is not running
the same speed as you, Summer.
534
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:54.400
He's not. He doesn't have goals
and dreams and aspirations. He's kind of
535
00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:00.519
a mutt sitting here doing nothing and
he's not really contributing much. So family
536
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.280
started saying they didn't care for him. And from everything that I've learned,
537
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.159
and again this is an opinion,
but I think it's an educated opinion.
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00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.559
I think Billy started picking up on
that. I think it only took two
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00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.039
days for Billy to figure out I
don't think I need this guy in my
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00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:22.519
house because three days before mass murder, Billy made a phone call to his
541
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:28.320
brother. What was that phone call
about? You guessed it. He wanted
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00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.079
his brother to come help him get
Dakota out of his house. Now,
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00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.559
you tell me this. You meet
somebody, they move into your house,
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00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.559
they live there five days, and
within two of those five days, you
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00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.239
want him to leave. Tell me
you didn't notice a problem pretty quickly.
546
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:53.400
That's scary quick. One day before
mass murder. One day before mass murder.
547
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.440
So it's only been four days.
If you're following, I'm just trying
548
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.840
to impress this upon you. They
only knew this guy less than Monday through
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Sunday, five days. They knew
him one day before mass murder. This
550
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:12.760
is when things start kind of rolling
into effect. All right, Summer and
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Tanner and Hunter, Right, all
of the siblings were raised in church.
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They were going to go to a
church camp. Tanner specifically was going to
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go to a local church camp.
Now, one day before the church camp
554
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.840
was supposed to occur, Tanner decided
he changed his mind. He wasn't going
555
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.599
to go to church camp. He
wanted to go see his daddy that weekend.
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He wanted to spend the weekend with
him. Hunter, the other brother,
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said no, I don't think I'm
going to go to dad's. I'm
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gonna stay with mom, and Okay
whatever, no big deal. Summer is
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living with them with Dad, right, So Summer's gonna already be there.
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Tanner's gonna go visit. Hunter is
going to stay home with Mom. Let
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me tell you a little bit about
Tanner. I don't know if you're like
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me, but I can literally fall
in love with someone I never met,
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and Tanner I just adore and I
never met him, but I've got thousands
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of pictures that his mother sent me, and I just love this kid.
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He reminds me of every teenage boy
that I've ever taught in my existence.
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And I mean the ones that are
just total goobers, the one that busts
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00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:29.960
up in your classroom, got stuff
to say. Probably is not going to
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00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:35.000
participate in your class with what you're
asking him to participate in, but he's
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00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.519
definitely gonna You're gonna know he's there. Not necessarily the strongest student you ever
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00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:44.280
met, but a joy to talk
to, A pleasant kid. Just a
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skinny, tall, sixteen year old
boy with brown hair and big eyes.
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He's got just a sweet little face. And I wanted to get to know
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him more than the crime scene photos
that I saw, So I did a
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little research on that, and this
is some of the stuff I found.
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Tanner's mama had sent me some videos
of him. Tanner was a goober by
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all accounts. These videos. I
have one of them, y'all. He's
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00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.519
got his hair and like little pigtails
and he's just being a total goob.
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Another one, he's got these long
bony legs and he's on like a porch
579
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.239
and he's got one leg out and
he's like stretching it out. You're like,
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00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.000
you can hear his mom going,
what are you doing? He's like
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00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.639
getting loose, getting ready for what
I don't know, just getting loose,
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00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.920
like he's just stretching it out.
And another one he's like holding his mom's
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00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:40.440
purse and pristing into Walmart, and
he's just your typical, funny, lighthearted,
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00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.920
silly one video, he comes like
running into the living room and like
585
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.880
flops on the floor, silly salmon, and he's like flopping around and it's
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00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:51.000
just lovable, y'all. Just love. If I could have taught this boy,
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I'm telling you, I just would
have loved him. I just would
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00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.639
have thought he was the greatest.
And I know that because he actually went
589
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to the school that I teach at, and one of the coaches there that
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00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:07.559
taught him still teaches there today.
And I got told a story about about
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him and he said, yeah,
Tanner, Uh Tanner. Tanner was a
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00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.000
little goob, right, and he
would come in and hey, coach,
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00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.199
how you doing, man? Blah
blah blah blah blah, And he said
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that Tanner one day was sitting in
his desk and he kind of drug his
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00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.639
desk over by the coaches and coach
looked at him and was like, what
596
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.119
are you doing. He's like,
coach, you know, Uh, I
597
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.519
think we should start calling me coach
coach and he said what he said,
598
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.639
yeah, because when you're not here, you know I'm in charge, right,
599
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.000
So can we could just call me
coach coach? And he was like
600
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.360
sure, buddy, Right, So
he was coach Coach And he said,
601
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:44.559
now, did he pass my class? Nope? Did he fail it?
602
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.719
Yep? But was he an absolute
joy to be around? One hundred percent?
603
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.039
And I'm telling you sometimes those are
the best kids, the ones that
604
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.000
they don't really do the work and
they're not going to study, but they
605
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.199
just make your day better. I'm
telling you, I've had many of those
606
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.840
in my teaching career in fifteen years, and I get this boy. I
607
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.639
totally get him. I'm also going
to post for you to Snapchat pictures that
608
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.639
his mom shared with me because I
think it says a lot about him.
609
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.639
And one of them, he's in
his little hoodie, you know, and
610
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.960
at the bottom he wrote, good
night, mom, love you, be
611
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.039
careful on your way home. You
know. This boy loved his mama.
612
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.960
And then another one, same thing. These guys a little air pods in
613
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:27.360
and at the bottom it's his little
face and he smiled and it says,
614
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:29.760
good night, I love you,
be careful on the way home, mama.
615
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.599
He loved his mama just like Summer
loved her mama. Tanner loved her
616
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.800
too, and they were tight,
tight kids with their parents, with their
617
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.719
mom. So, if you remember, like I just said, Tanner was
618
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.239
gonna skip church camp and he was
gonna go visit his dad. Summer already
619
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:51.000
lived there, Hunter decided that he
was gonna stay home. That decision will
620
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:59.559
be a life altering decision for all
three of the kids within twenty four hours.
621
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:08.639
So what happens the day before the
murders. Billie goes to pick up
622
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.440
the kids from his ex wife Ronda, and y'all, they have a decent
623
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.480
relationship. I'm not saying it's all
butterflies and sunshine, but it's a very
624
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:21.679
decent relationship. It could have been
worse, for sure. And Dakota was
625
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.199
already hanging out with Summer at this
time. So Dakota and Summer were at
626
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:29.920
the house, Tanners at the house, everybody's at the house, and Dakota
627
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:37.480
actually walks up to Ronda because this
is the first time he ever formally meets
628
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:47.920
Ronda. One day, one day
before he destroys her life. One day,
629
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.519
he walks up to her. Ronda
was actually cleaning a car out.
630
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.119
She had borrowed a car from her
friend because remember her car had broken down
631
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:59.159
in the last episode Summer and her
protecting about it. So she was cleaning
632
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.320
the car out and he walks up
and shakes her hand and says, hi,
633
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.960
I'm Dakota and formally introduces himself,
and she's like, hey, how
634
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:07.199
you doing. You know, she
didn't really think much of him whatever.
635
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.719
And while that was happening, Summer
had gone inside. She had to use
636
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.920
the restroom and then Summer and Tanner
come out, and Ronda said that they
637
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.599
She said, hey, guys,
I'll drive y'all to the front of the
638
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.480
trailer park because it was a long
drive and she didn't want them to have
639
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:28.559
to walk. So Tanner Summer jumping
the car will Dakota, being the rico
640
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.679
suave that he is, was smoking
a cigarette, so he didn't get in
641
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:35.639
the car. He playfully like jumped
on the side of the car and was
642
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:37.679
holding on and just kind of hanging
off like a trash man kind of,
643
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.840
you know, literally and metaphorically,
but hanging off the side of the car,
644
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.760
smoking the cigarette. And Rod even
said at one point she was joking
645
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:46.519
with him, boy, I'm a
run you over. If you fall off,
646
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.719
you better hang on, and he
was picking back with her. And
647
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.119
anyway, they ride to the front
of the trailer park and when they get
648
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:57.239
up there, Billy's there and they
all go to get in Billy's truck,
649
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:04.039
and the last thing Ronda says to
her babies is I love y'all. Tanner,
650
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.320
don't forget you have a basketball game
on Sunday, so don't be late.
651
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.360
I want Mamma, I love you, And the car drives away,
652
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:20.639
Ronda will never see her children again. She just shook the hand of their
653
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:25.039
executioner. So before I get into
the gory details, because it is pretty
654
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.840
bad, I want to explain to
you the difference between mass murderer and serial
655
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:36.320
killer. Some people don't quite understand
the difference. So mass murder is going
656
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:43.079
to be the killing of three or
more people at one time. And they'll
657
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:47.440
say in one location, but it
means within one incident. So if someone
658
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.159
shoots and kills ten people at a
gas station and then walks next door to
659
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.079
its completely different building and kills ten
more people, it still would be mass
660
00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:00.880
murder even though it's a different location
because it's the same incident, just extended,
661
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:06.920
all right, So three or more
people at one time in one incident,
662
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.039
and remember I just told you mass
murders about to occur three or more.
663
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:15.119
Serial killer is going to be the
killing of three or more people,
664
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:20.119
but in a like thirty day period, you have a significant cooling off period
665
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.480
between the murders. They're not related, it's completely different. They're done serially,
666
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:28.559
right, So mass at one time, serial one after the other with
667
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.119
a cooling off period, this is
going to be a mass murder. Situation.
668
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:37.840
So on January twenty sixth, twenty
nineteen, at seven thirty am,
669
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:45.920
Dakota is awake and so is Billy
and Casey. They all load up in
670
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.960
the car and they are going to
go drive Casey to work to drop her
671
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.239
off, because remember, Dakota doesn't
have a vehicle, and Billy and Dakota,
672
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.559
excuse me, Billy and Casey have
the one truck that they use,
673
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:04.000
so Billy it goes and they drop
Casey off. At one point they even
674
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.280
stop at a gas station because Dakota
is wanting cigarettes and I think, and
675
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.719
they pick him up a pack of
cigarettes, and then they drive back home.
676
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.880
Nothing to write home about, just
to go drop her off, grab
677
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:21.360
some cigarettes, and come back home. That's at seven thirty am. About
678
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:27.239
eight am, Billy and Dakota return
to the home. Now the littles are
679
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.719
there. Christopher and Heaven are there
as well as Tanner and Summer. Right
680
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:42.280
nine minutes later, eight o nine
am, Dakota is seen tearing out of
681
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:47.320
the driveway in Billy's truck. So
the entire situation I'm about to tell you
682
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:55.679
takes place in nine minutes at approximately
eight fifteen am, just a few minutes
683
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.360
after he tears out of the driveway. Livingstone Parish sheriff office receives a nine
684
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:09.639
one one call from Billie's neighbor and
she is distraught. At her front door
685
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:19.199
is seven year old Heaven holding one
year old Christopher, claiming that her entire
686
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.599
family is dead. I'm going to
insert that nine one one call here.
687
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:30.960
Go ahead and listen to the stress
in this woman's voice. It's real and
688
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:52.159
she doesn't know what's going on.
And this is living from nine one one.
689
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:57.920
We just had a call from Yeah, how need you need a one?
690
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:02.239
How do you need a coop said
immediately, what's your address? One
691
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:08.440
four six four zero Courtney Road one
four six spots zero. Yes, what's
692
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.039
going on there? I have a
little girl, that little next door in
693
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.639
the tailor apart. She came over
here with hello. Brother said her daddy's
694
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:22.280
dead in the chair. The boys
in the bathroom and she left that the
695
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:28.000
baby. It came over here to
try to get help. She said he's
696
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:32.320
killed her off her family. Take
my radio an Oh my god, Okay,
697
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:38.400
this lill go ever like seven years
old. Okay, so she's over
698
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:52.320
Yes, she said her daddy's in
the chair. Would row it all over
699
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:59.320
me. Oh my god, Okay, and where are the children now?
700
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.480
Say? Here at my house?
Said they didn't go back home? No,
701
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.559
don't in the house. There's somebody
else in the house and my husband
702
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.000
I know in their house is somebody
I don't know. Baby I saw,
703
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:12.639
she told me was her daddy was
dead in the chair. And the boys
704
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.840
in the bathroom. And the boys
in the bathroom. What does that mean
705
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:21.800
the guy that killed her killed her
daddy? She said, he's in the
706
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:27.199
bathroom. But how the little girl
can tell me? She's like Holific.
707
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:35.239
She's about seven, yes, seven
or eight seventh Hollow or another movie.
708
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.519
She's seven. Is there another child
with her? Yeah? Say so her
709
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:49.880
little brother he's a year old.
Oh god. And they're safe at your
710
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:55.840
house, Yes they are. Did
they hear any kind of gunfire or what
711
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:02.000
did they think her? Honey?
She's she she just sky heaven. Do
712
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:07.159
you know their name? Yeah?
Did you hear a long side? Baby?
713
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:12.599
Or what she heard? Grong side? She did? Her guy?
714
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:19.880
Yeah, her sister's d she said, do what, ma'am? She said,
715
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:23.119
her sister is dead to her?
Sister is dead to you? Yeah,
716
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.199
how old is a sister? She's
older? She's like eighteen nineteen twenty
717
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:51.760
side, I don't know. Oh
my god, I remember your go No,
718
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.559
won't you lock your doors? Okay? Okay, she picks up the
719
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.719
doors just because you don't know who
that is in the at him. Tell
720
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:02.599
me your neighbor's name. What's that
male's name? Do you know his name?
721
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:09.239
His name is Billy? Do you
know his last name? What's Hell's
722
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:20.760
last name? Ernest? Ernest?
What maybe his name is Billy Earnest,
723
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:25.800
Billy Ernesta? Yes? Do we
know this female? Twenty year old female?
724
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:37.039
No? I don't care. What's
her sister's baby comber? No one
725
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:44.320
was even man. I got everybody
headed that way. We're not slowing him
726
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.960
down me asking you these questions.
It's very important. Okay, Oh my
727
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:52.679
god, Okay, I asked her. Does she know her sister's name Summer?
728
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:08.039
Did she know the man who did
it? Uh? Yes, all
729
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:14.639
right, Panner Tanner? Do you
know this last name? I don't know,
730
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:17.599
Happan. What's his last name?
Navy? Well, Tanna's last name?
731
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.960
She don't know. She said,
it's a play sister. Uh,
732
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:27.320
sister's Franna sis Leman. Okay,
and I'm still waiting. It's what's the
733
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:40.440
sister's name summer summer? Okay,
yes, do you live in name route
734
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.920
Nam? Tell me your name?
What's your name? My name is Sharlene,
735
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.639
Charlene, Charlene. Yes, the
children appear okay? Or they injured
736
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:58.559
in any way? M they just
they better put it in their coat,
737
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:05.719
she said of the lord, she
no loved it? Did boy still live
738
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:09.440
there? Did you hear anything,
Miss Charlene? No, baby, but
739
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:15.679
I knockout? Shut up? Okay? Ask her how long ago did this
740
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.199
happen? Did she wake up to
find him dead? Or did she heaven?
741
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:31.159
Did you wake up to this Dodd
happen? She says, she woke
742
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:37.000
up and down her daddy dad?
Is your brother dad too? She said,
743
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:43.360
her daddy's dad too. Don't let
him build on my coat, Miss
744
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.159
Charlene. What kind of cars are
in that? They are there? It's
745
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:52.519
not over there? Movie. She
saw Tanner in the bathroom though, right,
746
00:56:52.320 --> 00:57:00.079
yes, and she thinks he did
it? Yes, okay, what
747
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:06.360
good? Go ahead, the little
girl saying, any that her daddy and
748
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.159
her sister and her brother did.
And what's the brother? How is he
749
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:15.199
her step brother? What's his name? Baby? No? No, not
750
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.599
Christopher? I know you got Christopher. Baby, what's your other brother's names?
751
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:24.480
Did Kanna is your brother? Okay? Tanna Tanner her brother? Okay,
752
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.119
So so Tanna is not the one
that that has gone? Who has
753
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:37.119
the gone heaven? Kissey's friend?
Okay? So not Tanner, No,
754
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:52.119
no, no one one. People
should just come inside and setting like our
755
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.239
nords. So it's her sister's friend
that had to come. But she don't
756
00:57:54.280 --> 00:58:01.280
know his name, No Turpen he
he's just all the sadur little seals I
757
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:07.280
know. Okay, And tell me
what kind of vehicles are they looking for?
758
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:13.880
In front of this house on Courtney
Road. I have in the house
759
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:17.960
a red red okay, not your
house. The other house goes none on
760
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:27.920
the other house, no, no
vehicles, no vehicles. And the one
761
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:32.079
six one four six four zero your
address right right, and they live right
762
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:38.880
across the road. We're in are
across the street. Well now day okay,
763
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:45.440
So the residence is in a driveway
across the street. Yes, so
764
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.559
it's a residence across the driveway,
yes, okay, okay, we have
765
00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:55.800
a deputy here now one all right, give him just a minute. He's
766
00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:00.039
all there now he's gonna go over
to that house he's probably not coming to
767
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.719
your house. Okay, okay,
all right, I'm gonna wait till one
768
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.719
more gets there with him. Okay, I have to do, you have
769
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:09.719
to I have two names, all
right, Miss Charlene, give me your
770
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:20.639
last name. I'm on borderline.
Okay, all right, I'm gonna hang
771
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.800
up with you. Okay. We're
gonna let a katie and take the children
772
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:28.239
out too. Okay, they're gonna
come in a little while. All right,
773
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:35.559
it's not here, all right,
Miss Charlene. I'll just wait in
774
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.000
the house till they come to talk
to you. Okay, Okay, baby,
775
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:44.639
Okay, thank you, Okay,
alright, alright, So, as
776
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:50.400
you heard, pretty confusing for the
lady that's called in. She's trying to
777
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:58.360
understand what Heaven is saying happened,
and Heaven has said that basically, her
778
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:04.519
daddy's dead, her sister's dead,
and her brother is dead. Now,
779
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:08.679
there was some confusion in the audio. I'm not sure that I'm gonna that
780
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:12.440
I've given the whole audio to you, because there's kind of some breaks in
781
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:16.039
the sequence. But at one point
they thought Tanner was the shooter and he
782
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:19.960
was holed up in the bathroom.
But that's not the case. We find
783
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:22.880
out Tanner's actually dead in the bathroom, and heaven, let me tell you
784
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:30.400
what, that little seven year old
girl deserves so much respect for the fact
785
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:37.159
that she walked out and witnessed what
she witnessed and then had the presence of
786
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.800
mind to grab her baby brother and
run next door and recount that to an
787
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:49.679
adult. What an amazing, amazing
child she was and is. So when
788
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:54.000
the police arrive, they find the
trailer, and I'm going to describe it
789
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:58.000
to you so you can kind of
understand the walk through here. And I
790
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.119
have the crime scene photos in front
of me. Why at the time that
791
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:04.840
I'm recording this, I'm not sure
how or if I'll be able to share
792
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:08.000
these with you because of the nature
of the photos, but I will attempt
793
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:13.840
to show you with respect, absolute
respect to the victims. I will attempt
794
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:19.239
to show you what I can,
but there's social media restrictions and Patreon restrictions
795
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:22.400
when it comes to this. So
when they walk into the front of the
796
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.559
trailer, immediately there's a photo when
you walk into the trailer and you're kind
797
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:30.119
of look into the left and there's
a lot of boxes that are stacked up
798
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.079
on top of each other that say, like milk, allergen and keep refrigerated.
799
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:37.199
Summer had just moved in, and
so it's not hard to assume,
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hey, all over stuff is still
maybe packed up in these boxes or something
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of that nature. But there,
it's like they're not supposed to be there.
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They're stored there and stacked on top
of each other. And as you
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walk further past that little entryway,
you're in the kitchen, but directly in
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front of you is a brown leather
recliner and in that recliner is Billy Earnt,
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who is clearly deceased. What is
interesting about the photo is that he
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is in a complete and total rested
position. He looks relaxed. He looks
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like he'd had no idea what was
going to happen to him. He is
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in the seated position. His left
leg is bent and is over the side
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arm of the chair, and his
right leg is straight out and he's kind
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of just leaned back. He's dressed
in it looks like work pants, you
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know, like the Blue City work
pants. He's in a plaid long sleeve
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button up shirt. He has on
his baseball cap. He almost looks like
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he's sleeping. He's laid. His
head's kind of to the side, and
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his hands are rested in his lap. He does not look like he was
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in a struggle. He does not
look like he has been fighting for his
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life. It looks literally like he's
watching TV. There's actually a TV right
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in front of him on a chest, so he's just like rested in the
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chair facing the TV. But he's
got blood out of his nose, pouring
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down his mouth and down pooling on
his chest. Looking at him, you
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cannot tell what's happened to him because
it's there's not a lot of trauma other
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than you see a lot of blood. It almost looks like if you had
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a nosebleed, a horrible nosebleed,
and then just didn't bother to wipe any
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of it off. But there's no
obvious trauma to his face. He looks
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like he's sleeping. But as the
crime scene photos continue, you look in
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his lap and you can clearly see
his cell phone is just resting in his
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lap and his hand is just rested
right next to it. But as you
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walk behind him and you look at
him from behind in the chair, you
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can see a very small single bullet
hole towards the bottom of his baseball cap
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at the back of his head and
near the recliner. So if you're watching
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on Patreon, the bullet hole's right
here on the back of my head where
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I'm pointing. So obviously this is
an execution, an absolute execution from behind
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dang your point blank in the back
of the head. He never had a
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chance. There's a little bit of
blood spatter also on his left leg that's
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propped up on the arm. You
can see some tissue and some blood.
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But other than that, that one
tiny hole ended his life into the face
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or into the back of the head. Now, as you continue further back
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behind Billy, there's a hallway,
and this hallway has like kids toys and
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things kind of stacked up against the
right side of the wall. And at
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first you think, Okay, I'm
just looking down a hallway. But if
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you look very closely, there's a
door that's a jar at the end of
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the hall and there's a door that's
a jar kind of to the left.
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Okay, And if you look really
really closely, you can see two feet
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one foot out of each doorway and
it hits you, Oh my god,
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there's two more people. As you
walk down that hallway. The first person
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01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.119
that you come to at the end
of the hallway is seventeen year old Tanner.
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Tanner's laying deceased in the bathroom.
He's flat on his back, his
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01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:30.840
left arm is across his stomach lower
chest area. His head is turned to
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the right, and his right arm
is kind of fallen over, and his
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01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:41.280
wrist is rested against the toilet,
so it's like he just fell straight back.
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Upon further inspection, you notice that
there is a single gunshot wound to
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the forehead. It's right above his
left eye, and it is a point
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01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:59.119
blank execution. The killer shot Billy
in the back of the head, took
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four or five steps down the hallway. You can just see it that Tanner
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opened the bathroom door and shock that
he heard a gunshot when he opened the
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door. The devil was standing right
there and executed him point blank in his
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forehead. He never had a chance. Boom, he hits the ground.
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Another photo in that same progression is
the wall facing. It's the interior of
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the bathroom, but it's like you're
looking out into the hallway, so it's
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basically what Tanner last saw was looking
out of this doorway, and you can
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see how close that gunshot wound,
how the proximity of the weapon to the
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head, because you can see all
the blowback blood spattered on the wall,
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kind of dripping down the wall.
And it's eerie because that's the last thing
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he saw before his little life was
taken from him. He never had a
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01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:58.320
chance. He never saw what coming, what was coming. He went straight
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01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:02.679
backwards. And then immediately right after
that gunshot wound was put to his head,
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all the shooter had to do was
turn his arm to the right because
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the two doorways are right next to
each other, and that is when Summer
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Ernest opened her bedroom door and he
put a bullet straight into her face.
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She is also deceased, laying on
her back, kind of on her left
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side, with a single gunshot wound
to the face and it's located right between
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her right eye and her lip.
She never had a chance. You can
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01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:36.039
even see the PATIKII. You can
see the wound on her face and it's
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you know, indicative of a very
close contact wound. The unburnt powder striking
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the skin. It causes like the
superficial injury on her face and she's gone.
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I mean, it's just bam,
bam, bam, and three people
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are murdered, and in nine minutes
he's out the door to say that this
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wasn't planning. I think is bullshit. It's horrifying to look at these photos
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01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:14.440
and to realize how quickly three lives
were snuffed out, and the reason why
879
01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:20.960
is going to blow your mind.
It's gonna absolutely blow your mind. They
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01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:25.560
recover other bullets from the sheet rock, and I've got the photos of that
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where they cut the sheet rock and
they pull it out. This is gonna
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be a nine millimeter bullet fragment.
There's other photos too about the home where
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you know Billy was. His license
is there, and Billy was even an
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organ donor. And you know,
I'm a proponent of local Louisiana Organ Procurement
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Agency. But you can look in
whatever state you're listening in and see what
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organ donation agency you have. In
Texas, I believe it's called TOPA.
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So it's just your your state's initial
and then OPAH after it. You can
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become an organ donor. It's so
simple and save people's lives. Billy was
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01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:06.640
an organ doner. I've got other
photos here after they remove Tanner and the
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amount of blood just covers the bathroom
floor. There's barbies laying in it.
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I mean kids, kids bathed here. Billy and the others are also labeled.
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Their bodies are labeled. They have
tags around their ankles. It's got
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no date information and another type of
identification measures on them, so that the
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bodies are accounted for. And then
they're as always, people are put into
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into body bags, right, and
so I do have the photos of that
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as well. I'll share the body
bag. It's it's sealed. You're not
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01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.479
going to see anything horrifying if you
don't know this. There's a lock on
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01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:47.840
the body bag, and this is
how it's always done. But we have
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to have chain of custody, not
only of evidence but also of bodies,
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and so you'll see photographs of where
it's locked. It takes a picture of
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01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.439
the body bag being locked, and
and then once they get to the coroner's
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01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.880
office, they're gonna take pictures as
they cut the lock, and so they
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01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:08.000
make sure the right body is in
the right bag, and so on and
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01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:11.840
so forth. And one of the
last photos that I have is the peel
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01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.439
out marks in the gravel where Dakota
tore out in that truck. The police
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01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:18.560
didn't realize that they were. That's
what it was when they first pull up,
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01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:20.840
so you can see the back of
a police car actually parked right next
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01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:24.840
to it. But those are going
to actually be part of the crime scene
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as well once they arrived on scene. Y'all, we have just gotten started
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on this one too. I hate
to have to go into another part episode,
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01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.479
but y'all, you want to know
the story or not, let me
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01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:38.640
tell you the whole story. There's
plenty more left to go. You're not
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01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.640
going to believe all the twists and
turns in this case and the incredible police
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01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.319
work that was done. I don't
like this Dacoda guy. I know that
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01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.279
you've called onto that hanging there for
the next episode. If burning a bridge
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takes too long, well baby,
I'm going to prefer to use explosives.
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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime
podcast where I tell stories of real crimes
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with real victims, whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how
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is this even real? I use
my experiences in law enforcement corrections and combine
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with my years as a criminal justice
educator, dig deep into complex cases of
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evil acts, some so evil many
feel they are unspeakable. Warning, Unspeakable
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is intended for mature audiences. If
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your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, Kelly Jennings here,
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how are you doing? Welcome back
to Unspeakable. I have got so
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much for you today. I know
you've been waiting. I've been looking at
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the messages and people are saying,
I don't want to wait until the next
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episode comes out, do it now. Well, unfortunately, y'all know,
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I got two jobs, so I
got to do both of them. And
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one lady said, one lady said, she's legit bombed that I have a
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real job on top of podcasting,
and I said, me too, boo,
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me too. But that's okay.
So I've been doing all my homework
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though, getting it ready for y'all. But before we get started. I've
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got some shout outs, and I've
got to tell some more people hello,
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because our team is just growing by
the second. Let me start here last
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time, and when I gave a
shout out to a girl just named Kalin,
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it was kind of like all it
said was Kalin, but she did
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reach out to me and give me
the last name, so I'm gonna go
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ahead and give her her full shout
out this time, Miss Kalin Bowling,
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Hey girl, thank you for giving
me that last name, because I'm sure
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there's a lot of Kalen's in the
world. And then, because I'm not
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perfect, even though I try to
be, I actually combined two names because
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winner Winter Chicken Dinner there, So
I'm going to separate them now and acknowledge
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their two separate people. So Savannah
Renee, hey girl, all sorry,
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I actually combined you with Christy Reese, and I think I came up with
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Savannah Reese, which is not even
a real person. So hey Savannah,
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how I believe you would pronounce that
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Welcome to Stephanie and then this crime
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whole bunch of y'all joining. So
miss Darla Crowson, Hey, how are
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you? And Sarah Sherman, Emily
Fontineaux, Karen Russel, and Lynnette Hamilton.
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Welcome to my Crime Family, y'all. I'm so excited to have you.
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I hope that you've been checking out
all the things on my Patreon.
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I've been posting a little bit more. I've got photos, I'm adding,
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and there's just going to be so
much more coming down the pipe. But
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I wanted to thank y'all so much
for joining and becoming part of my crime
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family. But look, before I
even start this episode, do y'all know
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what happened on my very first day
back at school? Do you know?
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I bet you don't. How about
a freaking bomb threat? Day one?
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We didn't even make it the first
hour. We all had to be shuttled
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into a gym and the FBI showed
up and atf and it was like hold
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on to your butt crack because this
is not good. But luckily for us,
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we didn't blow up. It was
just some idiot who decided to cause
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chaos and try to make everybody and
their mama upset. There was nothing at
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the school, but hey, you're
gonna face some federal charges, Padna.
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If you're listening, I hope,
hope it was worth it because you,
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my friend, are about to be
in a shitload of trouble. But hey,
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the kids got to learn about momb
threats and now I'm going to start
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there in my curriculum whenever I'm teaching
them about nine on one dispatch. So
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thanks for the intro, I guess
if I have to give thanks. Now,
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if you remember last episode, we
are doing our nineteen Day Devil.
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This is part two and it is
all about the Dakota Tario story, but
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not him, actually his victims that
were focusing on. And this one takes
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a minute to get into. If
you recall there was a whole lot of
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players. Episode one I did on
my Facebook go post a family tree photo.
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So if you want to go back
and use your resources to see who
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the hell is who, please go
do that. It might help to lay
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this out for you. But mainly
last episode was about Dakota Terrio and then
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he had a wife named Kim.
Now him and Kim were young when they
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got married. It didn't work out. They ended up getting divorced, and
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he was an absolute domestic abuser.
He beat the shit out of Kilm and
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things were not, you know,
very good between the two of them.
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I thought, though, I'd back
up just a hair here today and go
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back to talking about his parents for
a second. If you remember, Dakota's
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parents were Lee and Keith Terrio,
Lee's real name being Elizabeth. But we're
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going to be about November of twenty
eighteen here, and that's when Dakota's father,
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Keith, and Dakota got into a
physical altercation that ended up breaking Keith's
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shoulder. The tensions were very high
at this time, but Dakota had remained
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in the home and everybody knew.
Look, you know, Dakota's mom always
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would try to de escalate things.
She would intervene, try to smooth things
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out whenever the two guys would tie
up into their fights and disagreements. It
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was very obvious that she loved her
son, but she also loved her husband.
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However, they were just firing gasoline. Keith and Dakota could not get
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it together. They just did not
get along, and Dakota always felt like
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she would take Keith's side, even
when she was defending Dakota. He would
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say, oh, no, you
took Dad's side. No one wants to
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listen to me. You know,
nobody loves me. YadA YadA ya.
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And again, Dakota's drug usage became
a huge issue about this time, and
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shortly before that fight with his father, Dakota was actually kicked out of a
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bar for acting like an absolute looney
tune and he was jumping on pool tables
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and was high as a kite and
acting like a fool. I read a
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report that the bartender from that bar
had written given her statements about how he
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acted that day, and basically it
sounds like he was meted out and acting
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like a total idiot. So,
you know, Dakota didn't even appreciate his
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mother's attempts to try to protect him
or to defend him, because you know,
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he repaid his mom's efforts by punching
her in the face outside of that
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bar. And then Dad got so
upset by that that he pulled a knife
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on Dakota. And it was just
a hot ass mess in this family of
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trying to handle him and deal with
each other. On top of this,
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Keith had shared which is Dakota's dad. Keith had shared something with the bartender
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that if you came to my live
event, I did not mention it wasn't
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because I didn't want to. It's
because I think I just had a lot
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going on and I failed to mention
it. But Keith had actually had a
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discussion with the bartender about how his
nine millimeter his weapon, his gun went
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missing, and he was pretty upset
about that because he knew where his gun
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was and it wasn't there anymore.
And he had actually confronted Dakota about his
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gun being missing. Now, when
he confronted confronted Dakota, that's when he
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found cocaine in Dakota's possession. So
the gun went missing, he went to
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go confront Dakota about it, and
then on top of that, he finds
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cocaine on Dakota. So on January
twenty first of twenty nineteen, that is
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when Dakota's parents kicked him out of
the house that they were all still sharing
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together. Also, remember they shared
with two other roommates, Jacob Chastnall and
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their other friend, Kim Minks,
So there was a lot of people in
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this house. But they kicked him
out and this is just five days before
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we would have mass murder, so
they kicked him out. You know,
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he wasn't contributing to the home.
He had these chronic violent tendencies. His
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anger issues combined with dope just made
it absolutely impossible to live with him.
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And it turns out that at on
top of the cocaine, he was also
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doing crystal meth as well as smoke
and marijuana. So he's doing uppers and
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downers and all rounders, if you
will, and it just wasn't making things
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easy. So Dakota's problem also was
with authority. And this is well documented
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because I don't I'm not sure if
I mentioned this last episode or not,
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But going back a few years,
Dakota had entered the military whenever he was
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married to Kim. That's why he
had hurried and married Kim. He had
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entered the military because he wanted to
go try to make something of himself after
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he had been kicked out of high
school and went to that YCP program.
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And you know, he actually didn't
make it very long in that program in
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the military. Because you want to
know why, you know, was it
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a medical reason got kicked out?
Did he get hurt in action. Was
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it something along those lines, something
honorable kind of No, he got kicked
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out because he punched his superior in
the face, which got him a dishonorable
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charge. And he was basically just
not getting the hint that he couldn't behave
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that way. When he returned home
from the military, he made no life
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changes. I mean there was literally
it's like he did not sit down and
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reflect on the fact that he was
a complete asshole. He like totally missed
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the boat there that maybe it's a
me problem not a everybody else problem,
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and so he just kept doing what
assholes do, causing problems wherever he went.
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So his parents, like I told
you, kicked him out of the
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house. He had beat the hell
out of his wife and she had been
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done with him as well, and
so he really had nowhere to go at
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this point. Now, something I
didn't tell you last episode, but I
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want to go back and tell you
right now, is that about the time
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that Dakota joined the military. So
I know you're like, Kelly, you
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keep going backwards, but I kind
of want to add these things in.
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Something happened that is going to play
an integral role here shortly, But it
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didn't seem like it was as series
of an issue when it happened. So
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right before he went to the military, he and his wife, Kilm because
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they were still married at the time, had gone to a waffle house.
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Now, at this waffle house,
they actually met up with a police officer.
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She was a state trooper who was
mentoring Kilm Dakota's wife at the time,
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and was trying to help her,
you know, with some life advice
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and help her to make better decisions
about her life. Will Dakota was with
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her while they went to this waffle
house. And they went to the waffle
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house was an Ascension Parish, which
is kind of a neighboring parish of Livingstone
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Parish where I am. And while
they were there and talking about making better
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life decisions, the officer said,
well, you know, they looked hungry,
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they looked tired or whatever. So
I said, come on in,
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I'll buy you something to eat.
The officer even remembered I bought her a
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cheeseburger. Right. Well, while
they're eating and discussing life choices, is
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Dakota just flat out starts telling this
officer that he doesn't like the police and
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he's not gonna like the police.
And she inquired as to why, and
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basically it was because he's never had
good interactions with them. Now, why
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has he never had good interactions with
them? Because he's never doing anything positive.
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He's always high or cracked out or
whatever his decision making was at that
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time. And so every time they
come around, they're handling something right.
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And so she tells them, we'll
look, you know, maybe you've just
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had bad experiences with police, because
thus far you haven't had gotten to have
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a positive interaction with a police officer. So let's make this a good one.
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Nice to meet you, right,
I'm officer so and so, And
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she bought them dinner and he said, well maybe so whatever. But he
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then goes on to talk about how
much he hates his parents and that he
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can't get along with his parents.
They don't, you know, like him.
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He doesn't like them, and goes
on to tell this officer about how
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he hopes one day to be able
to get a shotgun kicking their door or
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kill them and then hopefully the police
will kill him. Right, that kind
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of murdered by suicide thing. Now, before we go further, I know
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right now, you're like, wait, he said that, and the cop
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didn't do anything. All right,
I hear you. But when you're dealing
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with troubled youth and it's not a
direct threat, he doesn't say I'm going
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to get the shotgun, I'm going
to kill them. It was more like,
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I wish I could just do this. You got to kind of sometimes
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mitigate what you're dealing with. And
so she didn't know Dakota, Well she
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did, no kil she's talking to
them. She obviously tried to talk him
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out of it and said, obviously
that's a terrible idea. How about we
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try to make some positive changes in
your life where you could go further.
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You should join the military, right, you could get housing, you could
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get money, you can get training, schooling. And she tried to just
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redirect that attention. Now, and
I know some people reached out to me
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that went to the live when I
mentioned this and was like, ally,
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that officer should have done something because
he obviously went crazy in the future.
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Well, I think the officer did
what she could do. You know what
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I'm saying. He didn't say I
have a gun and I'm going to kill
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them. He didn't say I'm going
when I leave here to kill them.
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He just said it would just be
easier. I wish I could just get
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rid of them, and wishing something
is not a direct threat. You gotta
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have probable cause. And I don't
think that it really met the muster of
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that. I think it was more
of like a kid mouth than off.
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He just looked like a kid who
didn't have much guidance, and she tried
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to redirect and give better guidance.
All right, So just to address that,
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that's kind of where I think things
were at that time. So kind
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of going back to where we left
off last episode, we were talking about
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how Dakota had gotten arrested for beating
the hell out of kilm and a lot
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of injury to her. He knocked
her front bottom teeth out, there was
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bruising to the side of her face. He had destroyed her car, and
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so she was done with him.
Even though they were divorced. This had
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happened, and I went and got
some more of my records to kind of
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address this a little bit further about
what happened. And whenever you look at
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the narrative written by the police office
or when this occurred. I was reading
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through it, and it says that
they were married for you know, approximately
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a year and then they got divorced, and that Kim had remained intimate with
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Dakota after they divorced. And I
don't think this is that far fetched of
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an idea. She loved him,
He just was abusive to her. And
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so the fact that they divorced but
still remained intimate, like, let's get
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real. We all know divorces where
that happens. Okay, we all know
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divorces where that happens. They just
can't make that clean cut. But she
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also advised the police officers at this
time that he had been diagnosed as bipolar
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schizophrenic and that he was currently homeless
right because he'd been kicked out of his
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parents house. And you know,
even though they were divorced, they still
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sometimes would stay together. But this
was something that is so common. Kim
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did not wish to report the previous
incidences to the police because she feared for
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his well being. She said,
in her young mind, he's totally ill,
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and policing is not going to solve
his problem. And to her point,
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I think that's true. You know, when you go to jail,
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you know, if you don't have
all of your ducks in a row and
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the police don't know that you've been
diagnosed schizophrenic and you don't have your medication
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on you, it can make things
evolve and become worse. Matter of fact,
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true story. I was at the
casino with my sweetheart husband Blake,
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and we were just having a good
little weekend out and this woman sat down
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next to us, and I don't
know what happened. She and I just
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hit it off. Wonderful lady.
We're just having a good time. And
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as the conversation evolved just to this
point is why I'm kind of sidestepping here.
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She said, did you ever hear
the story about the guy in Baton
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Rouge last year who went into prison
and then ended up committing suicide? And
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y'all, that happens a lot,
but I did know the actual instance she
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was talking about, And she said
what happened was that he was a diagnosed
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schizophrenic and when he went into the
jail, he was telling them that he
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was hearing voice. But he passed
the check that they do. He passed
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everything at the time that he went
into the jail, But then he started
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asking for medication. They don't have
any medication to give him. They're not
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doctors, and there's nothing documented,
and he ended up committing suicide, and
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she believed that his schizophrenia, which
was not acknowledged at that time, is
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what resulted in his death. Well, I could kind of see here in
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that same instance why Kim would be
upset because she didn't think that the jail
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was really going to help him.
Now, something else that jumped out to
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me, And if you're watching right
now on Patreon, you can look.
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Jimothy grabbed this and pull it forward
to the camera. This is the actual
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records, Okay, that I went
and pulled, so I'm not just reading
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from something I read online. This
is her actual report and on here.
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Something that was interesting to me too
is that Kim Terrio, and this is
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a direct quote, kept the abuse
by Dakota Terrio hidden from her parents until
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today, which was August fifteen,
twenty seventeen, because what happened was after
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he hurt her so severely and knocked
her teeth out, she went to her
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parents home and it caused a disturbance
in the home and they were shocked to
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see what had happened to her.
Kim's parents told her to report his transgressions
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to the police. And that is
why she went and she told at that
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point, y'all, this is so
common. If you could see the messages
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of people that are sent to me
privately saying thank you so much for bringing
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this to a people's attention, because
so many people are in domestic abuse situations
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but they don't speak up because they
fear the person that's hurting them, but
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they also love the person, whether
it's misguided or not, and they don't
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want something to happen to them.
But y'all failure to failure to come forward
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and to handle this domestic violence at
this point in time, I'm not blaming
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Kim. Please do not misread what
I'm telling you or misunderstand it. But
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what if all of those times could
have compounded and his ass was in a
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jail and he wouldn't have been free
to do the things that are about to
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come? Just what if? And
I don't want him to carry that burden.
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She's a victim, but what if. If you are in a domestic
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violent situation, please tell people,
Please tell people whoever it is, because
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if not, it escalates. And
every domestic violence expert that I know that
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I've spoken to, and with everything
that I've ever researched. It only escalates.
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It only escalates people if someone's willing
to knock your teeth out and bash
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your face in. If you don't
think they're capable of killing you, you're
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missing something very very important there.
They're capable. They are absolutely capable.
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So something else. Further on down
on the report, the officer wrote,
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it should be noted when asked if
she wished to pursue charges against a Codo
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Tario for her damaged property. Remember
he tore up her car or bashed the
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windshield in, broke the mirrors off, She advised she did not want to
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pursue the charges. And it probably
sounds crazy to someone right now, what
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you tear my car up, blah
blah blah blah blah. That's easy for
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you to say if you don't love
somebody. She loved him right or wrong,
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you know. Then. Even sadder
to me is that the officer wanted
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her to seek medical attention because she
was hurt. And the reason that she
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did not want to seek medical attention
from this incident is due to her not
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having insurance and monetary funds. This
is common in domestic abuse. You can't
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afford the medical bills. So even
if you want to go to the hospital
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because your teeth are knocked out,
or your eye socket is broken, or
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your arm is sprained, or your
leg is injured, or your eye is
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blacked, or your hair is ripped
out, or whatever the issue is,
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it's not come. It's not common
that this is someone who comes from a
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low socioeconomic status. They don't have
the money to pay the bill, so
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they just don't go. It's like
it just compounds itself. Right, she
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didn't want to go because she couldn't
afford the bill. That's heartbreaking to me.
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That money keeps you from getting medical
attention. So this whole report is
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just heartbreaking. They got statements from
them, and they made note about everything
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that had happened to her. They
did attempt to contact Dacoda Tarryo buy his
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phone number that they had at the
time, but they were unable to contact
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him, and this officer did leave
a voicemail request and that Dakota would contact
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him, and at that point the
case was what it was until they were
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able to find him and bring him
in and question him. Now, they
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do end up getting ahold of him
and he does end up getting arrested on
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this charge. And the thing that
that goes into play here is a thing
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called Gwen's Law. Now I am
going to do an episode on this.
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I think it's just crazy important law
for people in Louisiana to know. This
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went into effect in Louisiana a few
years ago, about twenty seventeen. But
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basically, Gwen's Law sets the rules
and the standards for hearings before bail is
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set. If the person who is
arrested under like domestic abuse, battery,
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or violation of a protective order,
stalking, something along those lines, they
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have to go before a judge before
their bail can be set. And like
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I said, I will do an
episode on this because I want y'all to
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know it. Y'all. Information is
so powerful, it's so powerful to have.
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But Gwen's Law came into effect here
because this was a domestic abuse battery
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case right where he beat the hell
out of her and she was injured severely.
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It wasn't like she just had a
bruise, her teeth were knocked out
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right. And on this Gwen's Law
checklist again, if you're looking, guys,
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I have the report right here,
the actual report. They go through
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this screening of him, and it
goes through his criminal history, and on
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the criminal history it does show that
he has two counts of theft. He
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does have a possession of weed drug
paraphernalia. He's got an aggravated flight from
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an officer, obstruction of justice.
He's got a lot of charges here,
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including an arrest with possession of believe
marijuana, and his dad was actually with
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him during that arrest. But you
know, on this protective warrant, this
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Gwen's Law checklist, it goes through
the fact that the victim here was severely
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injured, that they took photos,
and that they did get the nine one
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one call, and that they're trying
to follow up to see how serious was
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this incident and doesn't meet the muster
of Gwen's Law where he should not be
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immediately released with just some kind of
preset bail. He needs to go before
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a judge. A judge needs to
hear this to determine how serious of an
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issue is this. Okay, Now, based on this incident, the arrest
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warrant was signed, and part of
this was that even though the arrest warrant
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was issued, the victim here Kim
tells them that she moved to Mississippi and
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kept saying, I don't think I
want to press any charges because you know,
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I don't want She kept being refused
to be interviewed, and she doesn't
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want to come to the office.
She's in Mississippi, and she kind of
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the there's actually a handwritten note here
by one of the officers that says you
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can't prosecute a victimless crime. I
don't know if Kim said that or if
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Dakotas said that, but you can
see how there was a whole bunch going
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on here. But it is stamped
by the jail, so I do know
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that this was taken into consideration when
he went to jail. If you're watching
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right now, if you're a patron
member, you can kind of see up
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here at the big top where it
says jail now one this same instance of
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Gwen's Law checklist. Guess what else? A protective order was put into place.
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And I have the protective order here
too. So on this protective order
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at the top, it is marked
with a bail restriction right, and Gwen's
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Law puts that into place that you
can't just issue. Okay, let me
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tell you all this. Some charges
have preset bail for them. So like
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if you go in on a you
know, like a DWI, or you
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go in on like a misdemeanor charge
or something. I don't know what they
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are. Don't have the list in
front of me, but they have preset
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amounts, so it's not like you
have to have a judge tell you every
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single time. It's like a list
that they could look at. But this
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took that opportunity away because of Gwen's
law. Now, after this arrest,
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there was a protective order put into
place, which I have here, and
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there's going to be something interesting in
here that It's crazy that a protective order
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sounds so official to people, but
I want people to understand a protective order
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is literally what I'm holding right now. Can you hear it? It's a
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piece of paper. Real quick?
Do you think this stops a bullet?
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Has anyone ever met a piece of
paper that stops a bullet? Because I
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haven't. Okay, A protective order
is kind of like a CYA for you.
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That means, once you're murdered,
I guess they have something to go
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back on to hold the person who
is abusing you accountable. And I don't
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mean this ugly against the courts or
the judges or the police officers. I'm
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just telling you it's a formality.
But if someone is absolutely out to kill
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you, this does nothing. Please
understand that if you're in a situation where
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you have to get a protective order, the paper is a formality. It's
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not going to stop a bullet.
And I'm going to prove that to you
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shortly. But on this protective order, it shows there were bail restrictions,
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and it shows that a hearing was
held. The judges and the courts are
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doing their job. This was actually
in the twenty fourth Judicial District of Jefferson.
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One of the things that is on
here that is marked is that per
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this protective order, the order was
issued after actual notice and an opportunity to
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participate in the hearing, and it
was provided to the defendant. The court
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found that the defendant represents a and
here's the key, credible threat or danger
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to the physical safety of the protected
person. The court believed, Yeah,
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this guy's a problem. He's dangerous. He's so dangerous. We need to
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put something into effect here to keep
this woman protected. Right, and guess
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what part of that part of that
he has been charged with a crime against
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a family member, household, household
member, or dating partner, and has
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been charged with the crime of stalking. Thus, the defendant is prohibited from
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possessing a firearm. Do you remember
a minute ago me telling you that his
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dad told Bartender that his gun was
missing and he thought that Dakota stole it.
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It's because this ain't rocket science.
This is not rocket science. This
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guy's dangerous. Mental illness to be
damned. I don't care if he has
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mental illness in this situation. He's
dangerous and dangerous. Trump's the mental illness
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issue here. It doesn't mean that
we don't need to take that into account.
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It doesn't mean dang that sucks.
His brain's misfiring, he needs to
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be on some type of medication.
I'm not discounting that. But what this
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is telling you is he's dangerous.
He poses such a threat we don't even
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want him in possession of a firearm. And I know he's been told because
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it's initialed. He knows this.
The problem is that we have people in
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this country who don't give a damn
what we tell them. They're called criminals.
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The good people suffer. The criminals
don't give a shit. You know,
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if you go to a school right
now, there's a sign out front
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that says revised statute whatever per your
state, and it says this is a
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firearm free zone, when the reality
is the only person without a gun on
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campus are the teachers and the students. But the bad guy who walks up
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is absolutely going to have one,
because it's just a fucking sign that tells
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you we're sitting ducks. It's kind
of like this piece of paper. It's
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just a sign that she's a walking
duck, and a defenseless one at that
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right, he's not supposed to have
a gun. It says you are hereby
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ordered not to abuse, harass,
assault, stalk, followed, track,
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monitor, or threaten the protected person
Kimberly Terrio. You are ordered not to
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contact the person personally through a third
party through a public posting by any means,
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including written, telephone, or electronic, text, email, social media.
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You are ordered not to go within
two hundred feet of this person.
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You are ordered not to contact this
person's family personally through a third party through
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any posting, telephone, written,
electronic. You were ordered not to go
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with one hundred yards of her residence. You are ordered not to go to
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the person's protective person's school, or
the protective person's place of employment. And
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why am I telling you this?
Why am I so fired up about it?
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Because he was ordered not to go
near Kim, But guests who was
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never privy to this information, Guests
who never knew how dangerous he was.
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Guests who never had the opportunity to
know how dangerous he was. I'm gonna
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tell you who she was. Her
name was Summer Earnest. Because while he
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was given all of these direct orders
by a court to stay away from Kim,
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Summer never knew it. She never
had the opportunity to be protected.
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She never had a voice for herself. Why Because Summer only knew him a
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total of five days before she tried
to help him by saying, Daddy,
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can he move in with us because
he's been kicked out of his home and
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he doesn't have anywhere to go.
Summer didn't know all of this. This
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is where we kind of as a
society need to talk to each other and
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go wait a minute, Wait a
minute, wait a minute. The law
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did what it was supposed to do. It recognizes that he's dangerous to the
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point that they think he might kill
his ex wife helly borderline tried to He's
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hurt his parents, he's been kicked
out of the military, he's dangerous,
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he's doing drugs. And we've got
this piece of paper to protect her,
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but nobody else knows about it.
And here's our poor Summer Earnest, the
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girl that met him at a funeral
five days before tragedy, and she doesn't
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know how could she? A goodhearted
person looks for the good in people.
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It's a double edged sword, right. He even had a notice to defendant,
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And here's the docket number two one
seven two one nine, two nine.
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I've got the form right here.
He knew he should not be in
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possession of a firearm for any reason. That means he shouldn't be going to
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get one. That means he shouldn't
get one from someone else, and that
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means no one else should provide one
to him. And obviously he shouldn't steal
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one. But guess what, he
gets a hold of one. Now.
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Something even crazier about this, And
I'm actually going out of order of what
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I plan to do, but hey, it's my podcast and my brain's add
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so I'm going to go there is
that in the future we're actually going to
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discuss this possession of the firearm,
because there is a written statement of Summer's
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stepmother, Casey, where she acknowledges
that she knew he had the gun.
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She knew he had a gun in
their home, and according to the report
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and the written statement that I'm reading, he held the gun up on a
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couple of occasions in their home,
which I'm not trying to judge Casey,
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Okay, I'm not, but that
would alarm me if someone who just moved
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into my home that I don't know
that's couch surfing, couch surfing, is
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holding a firearm, especially when I
have two little ones in my home.
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But she knew he had the gun
because he held it up and showed it
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to her and then said sh and
slid it back under a pillow. So
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I don't know if Casey was afraid. I don't know exactly what the situation
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was at this point, but they
knew he had a gun. But I
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guarantee you Kim probably didn't know that
he was not supposed to be in possession
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of one, thus didn't realize necessarily
what danger she might have been in.
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Right, all right, So let's
talk about Summer Ernest Summers the girl that
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met Dakota at the funeral. Right
she accompanied her dad, Billy two to
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that funeral of a family friend.
So I've got some pictures of Summer right
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here in front of me, and
I just can't It doesn't matter. I've
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said before that she's a beautiful girl, but she is, and she's a
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happy girl. She's miling. She's
got long brown hair and big brown eyes
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and beautiful white teeth, and it
just seems like your salt of the earth
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kid, just trying to make her
way in life. And at this point,
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remember she and her boyfriend had broken
up. Sean she went and she
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moved in with her dad. Dad
Billy helped her move into the home.
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It was Billy and Casey ernest home, and shortly thereafter that's when they met
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Dakota, and Dakota didn't have anywhere
to go, and she says, Dad,
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can Billy excuse me, can Dakota
move in with us? Now?
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From people that I've spoken to,
Billy gave a little pushback at first,
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They that he didn't necessarily want this
guy moving into the home with his daughter
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and his wife and his kids.
He didn't really know the guy. But
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then it kind of started being more
like, you know, maybe maybe he
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could help around the house, maybe
he could be helpful to me. And
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they lived in a little trailer off
of Courtney Road in Walker, Louisiana.
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And I've got a picture of it
right here. It's just your average rund
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of the meal, you know,
single wide trail, and it's just in
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a trailer park. Nothing big,
fancier special. But the fact that these
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people let him move in when they
already had a full home, to me,
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tells you something about them. That
they were kind, that they were
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willing to open their door to an
absolute stranger just to help him get on
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his feet. He didn't have anything
to offer them. Obviously he's an asshole.
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But I don't think that they knew
the extent of what they were dealing
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with. I really don't think they
knew. So he's moved in now to
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their trailers. So in the trailer
just a recrap, recrap. Hey,
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you know what, No, keep
it in, keep it in up.
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Yeah, this is a recrap because
this is a whole crap fest about to
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happen. Billy Ernest, his wife
Casey Ernest or in this trailer. They
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have two small children, Heaven and
Christopher. Plus they have Summer who just
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moved in with them because she broke
up with her boyfriend. And they have
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Tanner Ernest, which is Summer's brother, who comes to visit. Okay,
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and there's another brother too named Hunter
who comes to visit. So there's a
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lot of people that are in and
out of this trailer that live there.
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But what people to open their door
when he has nothing to offer them or
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to help them with. And that
just shows you the genuineness of Billy Earnest
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Heart that he would do that because
this guy had nothing to nothing to offer.
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Now, let me tell you a
little bit about Billy Ernest. Okay,
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I never met him. I've spoken
to a lot of people that knew
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him, and y'all, this was
a good guy. This is a good
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man. He was a blue collar
worker. He was forty three years old,
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white male. And the pictures of
him, he always has a mustache,
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brown hair, average build. Every
picture that I see of him,
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he is smiling a thousand watts smile. I'm telling you, just grinning ear
493
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.000
to ear. The picture I'm looking
at right now, he's got his arms
494
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:07.960
thrown around his sister. He's always
got his LSU baseball cap one. He's
495
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:15.280
just a genuinely nice, blue collar
dude. He's remarried, like we said
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to Casey Ernest, and he is
the proud father of five children, the
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00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:24.920
five children being Summer Tanner Hunter,
which are his three biological children with Rhonda
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00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:30.599
that he divorced or that got divorced. Then he's got Heaven, which was
499
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.719
not his biological child, but he
raised since she was born, and then
500
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:37.400
Christopher, and he was proud of
those children. He was a daddy,
501
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.079
He loved his children, and everything
I read about him just said he was
502
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.079
a nice guy. And I even
pulled his obituary because to me, obituaries
503
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:50.039
you can learn about people from those, and this was a direct quote.
504
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.400
Billy Ernest was described as a kind
hearted, trusting soul who lived his life
505
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:59.800
for the Lord, his family,
and LSU. And in that order,
506
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:01.840
that should tell you about somebody,
right. And y'all were from the South
507
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.920
down here, you better bleed purple
and gold on Saturday and black and gold
508
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.159
on Sunday. Don't even play.
Don't get it twisted, right, But
509
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:14.440
this guy loved Jesus. He was
a follower of Jesus. He loved his
510
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.679
family, and he loved sports.
And what I'm gonna do for you is
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I actually have a video of Billy
on his front porch, and I think
512
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.559
I think videos are really nice because
you can kind of learn about someone's temperament
513
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:30.119
and their style and their way of
being. And he's actually singing a gospel
514
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.159
song. He even gets choked up
at one point while he's singing it and
515
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.599
his voice cracks and his lip quivers. But I'm gonna post that video for
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00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:37.719
you so you can kind of get
to know Billy, because I feel like
517
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.840
you should. You know, he
was a nice man, But Billy Ernest
518
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:49.079
was a good guy who opened his
door to a stranger five days before mass
519
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:53.320
murder. Now, within those few
days, family members start kind of speaking
520
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:58.239
up and saying, you know what, I don't think I like this guy
521
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:02.840
that's moved into the home. I'm
kind of I don't know, I'm not
522
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.159
liking this guy. Now, who
was it that said that they weren't liking
523
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.159
him? Well, Kelvin. Now, if you remember, that's Summer Tanner
524
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.599
and Hunter's stepdad. If you will, they're not actually married. Ronda and
525
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:16.519
Kelvin are not married, but just
to keep it easy, that's their stepdad.
526
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:21.719
Their stepfather figure Kelvin turned to the
family at one point and said,
527
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.079
I don't like that guy. He's
on drugs. I don't trust him.
528
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.280
Billy Summer's dad had a brother.
His name was Jonathan, and Jonathan even
529
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.400
said I don't think I like him. That dude's trash. You need to
530
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:38.519
get him out of your house.
Billy's own mother, which is Summer's grandmother,
531
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.480
said Dakota is no good. Now, don't get it twisted. These
532
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.679
people are not saying they're better than
anybody. It wasn't about that. It
533
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:50.239
was just that Dakota is not running
the same speed as you, Summer.
534
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:54.400
He's not. He doesn't have goals
and dreams and aspirations. He's kind of
535
00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:00.519
a mutt sitting here doing nothing and
he's not really contributing much. So family
536
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.280
started saying they didn't care for him. And from everything that I've learned,
537
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.159
and again this is an opinion,
but I think it's an educated opinion.
538
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.559
I think Billy started picking up on
that. I think it only took two
539
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.039
days for Billy to figure out I
don't think I need this guy in my
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00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:22.519
house because three days before mass murder, Billy made a phone call to his
541
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:28.320
brother. What was that phone call
about? You guessed it. He wanted
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00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.079
his brother to come help him get
Dakota out of his house. Now,
543
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.559
you tell me this. You meet
somebody, they move into your house,
544
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.559
they live there five days, and
within two of those five days, you
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00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.239
want him to leave. Tell me
you didn't notice a problem pretty quickly.
546
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:53.400
That's scary quick. One day before
mass murder. One day before mass murder.
547
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.440
So it's only been four days.
If you're following, I'm just trying
548
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.840
to impress this upon you. They
only knew this guy less than Monday through
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00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:06.360
Sunday, five days. They knew
him one day before mass murder. This
550
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:12.760
is when things start kind of rolling
into effect. All right, Summer and
551
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:16.280
Tanner and Hunter, Right, all
of the siblings were raised in church.
552
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.480
They were going to go to a
church camp. Tanner specifically was going to
553
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:27.519
go to a local church camp.
Now, one day before the church camp
554
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.840
was supposed to occur, Tanner decided
he changed his mind. He wasn't going
555
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.599
to go to church camp. He
wanted to go see his daddy that weekend.
556
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:39.000
He wanted to spend the weekend with
him. Hunter, the other brother,
557
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.199
said no, I don't think I'm
going to go to dad's. I'm
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00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.280
gonna stay with mom, and Okay
whatever, no big deal. Summer is
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00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:50.880
living with them with Dad, right, So Summer's gonna already be there.
560
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:53.559
Tanner's gonna go visit. Hunter is
going to stay home with Mom. Let
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00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:59.039
me tell you a little bit about
Tanner. I don't know if you're like
562
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.199
me, but I can literally fall
in love with someone I never met,
563
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:10.559
and Tanner I just adore and I
never met him, but I've got thousands
564
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:15.239
of pictures that his mother sent me, and I just love this kid.
565
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.480
He reminds me of every teenage boy
that I've ever taught in my existence.
566
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:24.320
And I mean the ones that are
just total goobers, the one that busts
567
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:29.960
up in your classroom, got stuff
to say. Probably is not going to
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00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:35.000
participate in your class with what you're
asking him to participate in, but he's
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00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.519
definitely gonna You're gonna know he's there. Not necessarily the strongest student you ever
570
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:44.280
met, but a joy to talk
to, A pleasant kid. Just a
571
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:49.079
skinny, tall, sixteen year old
boy with brown hair and big eyes.
572
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.440
He's got just a sweet little face. And I wanted to get to know
573
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:58.599
him more than the crime scene photos
that I saw, So I did a
574
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:01.920
little research on that, and this
is some of the stuff I found.
575
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.440
Tanner's mama had sent me some videos
of him. Tanner was a goober by
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00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:12.599
all accounts. These videos. I
have one of them, y'all. He's
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00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.519
got his hair and like little pigtails
and he's just being a total goob.
578
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:22.199
Another one, he's got these long
bony legs and he's on like a porch
579
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.239
and he's got one leg out and
he's like stretching it out. You're like,
580
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.000
you can hear his mom going,
what are you doing? He's like
581
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.639
getting loose, getting ready for what
I don't know, just getting loose,
582
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.920
like he's just stretching it out.
And another one he's like holding his mom's
583
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:40.440
purse and pristing into Walmart, and
he's just your typical, funny, lighthearted,
584
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.920
silly one video, he comes like
running into the living room and like
585
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.880
flops on the floor, silly salmon, and he's like flopping around and it's
586
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:51.000
just lovable, y'all. Just love. If I could have taught this boy,
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00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:52.800
I'm telling you, I just would
have loved him. I just would
588
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.639
have thought he was the greatest.
And I know that because he actually went
589
00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.320
to the school that I teach at, and one of the coaches there that
590
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:07.559
taught him still teaches there today.
And I got told a story about about
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00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:12.599
him and he said, yeah,
Tanner, Uh Tanner. Tanner was a
592
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.000
little goob, right, and he
would come in and hey, coach,
593
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.199
how you doing, man? Blah
blah blah blah blah, And he said
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00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:22.519
that Tanner one day was sitting in
his desk and he kind of drug his
595
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.639
desk over by the coaches and coach
looked at him and was like, what
596
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.119
are you doing. He's like,
coach, you know, Uh, I
597
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.519
think we should start calling me coach
coach and he said what he said,
598
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.639
yeah, because when you're not here, you know I'm in charge, right,
599
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.000
So can we could just call me
coach coach? And he was like
600
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.360
sure, buddy, Right, So
he was coach Coach And he said,
601
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:44.559
now, did he pass my class? Nope? Did he fail it?
602
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.719
Yep? But was he an absolute
joy to be around? One hundred percent?
603
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.039
And I'm telling you sometimes those are
the best kids, the ones that
604
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.000
they don't really do the work and
they're not going to study, but they
605
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.199
just make your day better. I'm
telling you, I've had many of those
606
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.840
in my teaching career in fifteen years, and I get this boy. I
607
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.639
totally get him. I'm also going
to post for you to Snapchat pictures that
608
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.639
his mom shared with me because I
think it says a lot about him.
609
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.639
And one of them, he's in
his little hoodie, you know, and
610
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.960
at the bottom he wrote, good
night, mom, love you, be
611
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.039
careful on your way home. You
know. This boy loved his mama.
612
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.960
And then another one, same thing. These guys a little air pods in
613
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:27.360
and at the bottom it's his little
face and he smiled and it says,
614
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:29.760
good night, I love you,
be careful on the way home, mama.
615
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.599
He loved his mama just like Summer
loved her mama. Tanner loved her
616
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.800
too, and they were tight,
tight kids with their parents, with their
617
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.719
mom. So, if you remember, like I just said, Tanner was
618
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.239
gonna skip church camp and he was
gonna go visit his dad. Summer already
619
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:51.000
lived there, Hunter decided that he
was gonna stay home. That decision will
620
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:59.559
be a life altering decision for all
three of the kids within twenty four hours.
621
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:08.639
So what happens the day before the
murders. Billie goes to pick up
622
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.440
the kids from his ex wife Ronda, and y'all, they have a decent
623
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.480
relationship. I'm not saying it's all
butterflies and sunshine, but it's a very
624
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:21.679
decent relationship. It could have been
worse, for sure. And Dakota was
625
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.199
already hanging out with Summer at this
time. So Dakota and Summer were at
626
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:29.920
the house, Tanners at the house, everybody's at the house, and Dakota
627
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:37.480
actually walks up to Ronda because this
is the first time he ever formally meets
628
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:47.920
Ronda. One day, one day
before he destroys her life. One day,
629
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.519
he walks up to her. Ronda
was actually cleaning a car out.
630
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.119
She had borrowed a car from her
friend because remember her car had broken down
631
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:59.159
in the last episode Summer and her
protecting about it. So she was cleaning
632
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.320
the car out and he walks up
and shakes her hand and says, hi,
633
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.960
I'm Dakota and formally introduces himself,
and she's like, hey, how
634
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:07.199
you doing. You know, she
didn't really think much of him whatever.
635
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.719
And while that was happening, Summer
had gone inside. She had to use
636
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.920
the restroom and then Summer and Tanner
come out, and Ronda said that they
637
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.599
She said, hey, guys,
I'll drive y'all to the front of the
638
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.480
trailer park because it was a long
drive and she didn't want them to have
639
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:28.559
to walk. So Tanner Summer jumping
the car will Dakota, being the rico
640
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.679
suave that he is, was smoking
a cigarette, so he didn't get in
641
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:35.639
the car. He playfully like jumped
on the side of the car and was
642
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:37.679
holding on and just kind of hanging
off like a trash man kind of,
643
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.840
you know, literally and metaphorically,
but hanging off the side of the car,
644
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.760
smoking the cigarette. And Rod even
said at one point she was joking
645
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:46.519
with him, boy, I'm a
run you over. If you fall off,
646
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.719
you better hang on, and he
was picking back with her. And
647
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.119
anyway, they ride to the front
of the trailer park and when they get
648
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:57.239
up there, Billy's there and they
all go to get in Billy's truck,
649
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:04.039
and the last thing Ronda says to
her babies is I love y'all. Tanner,
650
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.320
don't forget you have a basketball game
on Sunday, so don't be late.
651
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.360
I want Mamma, I love you, And the car drives away,
652
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:20.639
Ronda will never see her children again. She just shook the hand of their
653
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:25.039
executioner. So before I get into
the gory details, because it is pretty
654
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.840
bad, I want to explain to
you the difference between mass murderer and serial
655
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:36.320
killer. Some people don't quite understand
the difference. So mass murder is going
656
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:43.079
to be the killing of three or
more people at one time. And they'll
657
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:47.440
say in one location, but it
means within one incident. So if someone
658
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.159
shoots and kills ten people at a
gas station and then walks next door to
659
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.079
its completely different building and kills ten
more people, it still would be mass
660
00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:00.880
murder even though it's a different location
because it's the same incident, just extended,
661
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:06.920
all right, So three or more
people at one time in one incident,
662
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.039
and remember I just told you mass
murders about to occur three or more.
663
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:15.119
Serial killer is going to be the
killing of three or more people,
664
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:20.119
but in a like thirty day period, you have a significant cooling off period
665
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.480
between the murders. They're not related, it's completely different. They're done serially,
666
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:28.559
right, So mass at one time, serial one after the other with
667
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.119
a cooling off period, this is
going to be a mass murder. Situation.
668
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:37.840
So on January twenty sixth, twenty
nineteen, at seven thirty am,
669
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:45.920
Dakota is awake and so is Billy
and Casey. They all load up in
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00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.960
the car and they are going to
go drive Casey to work to drop her
671
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.239
off, because remember, Dakota doesn't
have a vehicle, and Billy and Dakota,
672
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.559
excuse me, Billy and Casey have
the one truck that they use,
673
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:04.000
so Billy it goes and they drop
Casey off. At one point they even
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00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.280
stop at a gas station because Dakota
is wanting cigarettes and I think, and
675
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.719
they pick him up a pack of
cigarettes, and then they drive back home.
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00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.880
Nothing to write home about, just
to go drop her off, grab
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00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:21.360
some cigarettes, and come back home. That's at seven thirty am. About
678
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:27.239
eight am, Billy and Dakota return
to the home. Now the littles are
679
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.719
there. Christopher and Heaven are there
as well as Tanner and Summer. Right
680
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:42.280
nine minutes later, eight o nine
am, Dakota is seen tearing out of
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00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:47.320
the driveway in Billy's truck. So
the entire situation I'm about to tell you
682
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:55.679
takes place in nine minutes at approximately
eight fifteen am, just a few minutes
683
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.360
after he tears out of the driveway. Livingstone Parish sheriff office receives a nine
684
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one one call from Billie's neighbor and
she is distraught. At her front door
685
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is seven year old Heaven holding one
year old Christopher, claiming that her entire
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family is dead. I'm going to
insert that nine one one call here.
687
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:30.960
Go ahead and listen to the stress
in this woman's voice. It's real and
688
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:52.159
she doesn't know what's going on.
And this is living from nine one one.
689
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:57.920
We just had a call from Yeah, how need you need a one?
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00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:02.239
How do you need a coop said
immediately, what's your address? One
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00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:08.440
four six four zero Courtney Road one
four six spots zero. Yes, what's
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00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.039
going on there? I have a
little girl, that little next door in
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the tailor apart. She came over
here with hello. Brother said her daddy's
694
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:22.280
dead in the chair. The boys
in the bathroom and she left that the
695
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:28.000
baby. It came over here to
try to get help. She said he's
696
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:32.320
killed her off her family. Take
my radio an Oh my god, Okay,
697
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:38.400
this lill go ever like seven years
old. Okay, so she's over
698
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:52.320
Yes, she said her daddy's in
the chair. Would row it all over
699
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:59.320
me. Oh my god, Okay, and where are the children now?
700
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.480
Say? Here at my house?
Said they didn't go back home? No,
701
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.559
don't in the house. There's somebody
else in the house and my husband
702
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.000
I know in their house is somebody
I don't know. Baby I saw,
703
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:12.639
she told me was her daddy was
dead in the chair. And the boys
704
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.840
in the bathroom. And the boys
in the bathroom. What does that mean
705
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:21.800
the guy that killed her killed her
daddy? She said, he's in the
706
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:27.199
bathroom. But how the little girl
can tell me? She's like Holific.
707
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:35.239
She's about seven, yes, seven
or eight seventh Hollow or another movie.
708
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.519
She's seven. Is there another child
with her? Yeah? Say so her
709
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:49.880
little brother he's a year old.
Oh god. And they're safe at your
710
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:55.840
house, Yes they are. Did
they hear any kind of gunfire or what
711
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:02.000
did they think her? Honey?
She's she she just sky heaven. Do
712
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:07.159
you know their name? Yeah?
Did you hear a long side? Baby?
713
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:12.599
Or what she heard? Grong side? She did? Her guy?
714
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:19.880
Yeah, her sister's d she said, do what, ma'am? She said,
715
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:23.119
her sister is dead to her?
Sister is dead to you? Yeah,
716
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.199
how old is a sister? She's
older? She's like eighteen nineteen twenty
717
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:51.760
side, I don't know. Oh
my god, I remember your go No,
718
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.559
won't you lock your doors? Okay? Okay, she picks up the
719
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.719
doors just because you don't know who
that is in the at him. Tell
720
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:02.599
me your neighbor's name. What's that
male's name? Do you know his name?
721
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:09.239
His name is Billy? Do you
know his last name? What's Hell's
722
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:20.760
last name? Ernest? Ernest?
What maybe his name is Billy Earnest,
723
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:25.800
Billy Ernesta? Yes? Do we
know this female? Twenty year old female?
724
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:37.039
No? I don't care. What's
her sister's baby comber? No one
725
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:44.320
was even man. I got everybody
headed that way. We're not slowing him
726
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.960
down me asking you these questions.
It's very important. Okay, Oh my
727
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:52.679
god, Okay, I asked her. Does she know her sister's name Summer?
728
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:08.039
Did she know the man who did
it? Uh? Yes, all
729
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:14.639
right, Panner Tanner? Do you
know this last name? I don't know,
730
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:17.599
Happan. What's his last name?
Navy? Well, Tanna's last name?
731
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.960
She don't know. She said,
it's a play sister. Uh,
732
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:27.320
sister's Franna sis Leman. Okay,
and I'm still waiting. It's what's the
733
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:40.440
sister's name summer summer? Okay,
yes, do you live in name route
734
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.920
Nam? Tell me your name?
What's your name? My name is Sharlene,
735
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.639
Charlene, Charlene. Yes, the
children appear okay? Or they injured
736
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:58.559
in any way? M they just
they better put it in their coat,
737
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:05.719
she said of the lord, she
no loved it? Did boy still live
738
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:09.440
there? Did you hear anything,
Miss Charlene? No, baby, but
739
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:15.679
I knockout? Shut up? Okay? Ask her how long ago did this
740
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.199
happen? Did she wake up to
find him dead? Or did she heaven?
741
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:31.159
Did you wake up to this Dodd
happen? She says, she woke
742
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:37.000
up and down her daddy dad?
Is your brother dad too? She said,
743
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:43.360
her daddy's dad too. Don't let
him build on my coat, Miss
744
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.159
Charlene. What kind of cars are
in that? They are there? It's
745
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:52.519
not over there? Movie. She
saw Tanner in the bathroom though, right,
746
00:56:52.320 --> 00:57:00.079
yes, and she thinks he did
it? Yes, okay, what
747
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:06.360
good? Go ahead, the little
girl saying, any that her daddy and
748
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.159
her sister and her brother did.
And what's the brother? How is he
749
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:15.199
her step brother? What's his name? Baby? No? No, not
750
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.599
Christopher? I know you got Christopher. Baby, what's your other brother's names?
751
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:24.480
Did Kanna is your brother? Okay? Tanna Tanner her brother? Okay,
752
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.119
So so Tanna is not the one
that that has gone? Who has
753
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:37.119
the gone heaven? Kissey's friend?
Okay? So not Tanner, No,
754
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:52.119
no, no one one. People
should just come inside and setting like our
755
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.239
nords. So it's her sister's friend
that had to come. But she don't
756
00:57:54.280 --> 00:58:01.280
know his name, No Turpen he
he's just all the sadur little seals I
757
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:07.280
know. Okay, And tell me
what kind of vehicles are they looking for?
758
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:13.880
In front of this house on Courtney
Road. I have in the house
759
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:17.960
a red red okay, not your
house. The other house goes none on
760
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:27.920
the other house, no, no
vehicles, no vehicles. And the one
761
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:32.079
six one four six four zero your
address right right, and they live right
762
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:38.880
across the road. We're in are
across the street. Well now day okay,
763
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:45.440
So the residence is in a driveway
across the street. Yes, so
764
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.559
it's a residence across the driveway,
yes, okay, okay, we have
765
00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:55.800
a deputy here now one all right, give him just a minute. He's
766
00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:00.039
all there now he's gonna go over
to that house he's probably not coming to
767
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.719
your house. Okay, okay,
all right, I'm gonna wait till one
768
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.719
more gets there with him. Okay, I have to do, you have
769
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:09.719
to I have two names, all
right, Miss Charlene, give me your
770
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:20.639
last name. I'm on borderline.
Okay, all right, I'm gonna hang
771
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.800
up with you. Okay. We're
gonna let a katie and take the children
772
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:28.239
out too. Okay, they're gonna
come in a little while. All right,
773
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:35.559
it's not here, all right,
Miss Charlene. I'll just wait in
774
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.000
the house till they come to talk
to you. Okay, Okay, baby,
775
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:44.639
Okay, thank you, Okay,
alright, alright, So, as
776
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:50.400
you heard, pretty confusing for the
lady that's called in. She's trying to
777
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:58.360
understand what Heaven is saying happened,
and Heaven has said that basically, her
778
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:04.519
daddy's dead, her sister's dead,
and her brother is dead. Now,
779
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:08.679
there was some confusion in the audio. I'm not sure that I'm gonna that
780
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:12.440
I've given the whole audio to you, because there's kind of some breaks in
781
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:16.039
the sequence. But at one point
they thought Tanner was the shooter and he
782
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:19.960
was holed up in the bathroom.
But that's not the case. We find
783
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:22.880
out Tanner's actually dead in the bathroom, and heaven, let me tell you
784
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:30.400
what, that little seven year old
girl deserves so much respect for the fact
785
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:37.159
that she walked out and witnessed what
she witnessed and then had the presence of
786
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.800
mind to grab her baby brother and
run next door and recount that to an
787
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:49.679
adult. What an amazing, amazing
child she was and is. So when
788
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:54.000
the police arrive, they find the
trailer, and I'm going to describe it
789
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:58.000
to you so you can kind of
understand the walk through here. And I
790
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.119
have the crime scene photos in front
of me. Why at the time that
791
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:04.840
I'm recording this, I'm not sure
how or if I'll be able to share
792
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:08.000
these with you because of the nature
of the photos, but I will attempt
793
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:13.840
to show you with respect, absolute
respect to the victims. I will attempt
794
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:19.239
to show you what I can,
but there's social media restrictions and Patreon restrictions
795
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:22.400
when it comes to this. So
when they walk into the front of the
796
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.559
trailer, immediately there's a photo when
you walk into the trailer and you're kind
797
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:30.119
of look into the left and there's
a lot of boxes that are stacked up
798
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.079
on top of each other that say, like milk, allergen and keep refrigerated.
799
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:37.199
Summer had just moved in, and
so it's not hard to assume,
800
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.599
hey, all over stuff is still
maybe packed up in these boxes or something
801
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:44.880
of that nature. But there,
it's like they're not supposed to be there.
802
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:46.840
They're stored there and stacked on top
of each other. And as you
803
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:52.679
walk further past that little entryway,
you're in the kitchen, but directly in
804
01:01:52.760 --> 01:02:00.320
front of you is a brown leather
recliner and in that recliner is Billy Earnt,
805
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:07.360
who is clearly deceased. What is
interesting about the photo is that he
806
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:12.960
is in a complete and total rested
position. He looks relaxed. He looks
807
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.960
like he'd had no idea what was
going to happen to him. He is
808
01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:22.039
in the seated position. His left
leg is bent and is over the side
809
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:29.519
arm of the chair, and his
right leg is straight out and he's kind
810
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:32.119
of just leaned back. He's dressed
in it looks like work pants, you
811
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:39.360
know, like the Blue City work
pants. He's in a plaid long sleeve
812
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:45.159
button up shirt. He has on
his baseball cap. He almost looks like
813
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:46.920
he's sleeping. He's laid. His
head's kind of to the side, and
814
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:51.320
his hands are rested in his lap. He does not look like he was
815
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.360
in a struggle. He does not
look like he has been fighting for his
816
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:58.480
life. It looks literally like he's
watching TV. There's actually a TV right
817
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.400
in front of him on a chest, so he's just like rested in the
818
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:06.840
chair facing the TV. But he's
got blood out of his nose, pouring
819
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:14.239
down his mouth and down pooling on
his chest. Looking at him, you
820
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:19.280
cannot tell what's happened to him because
it's there's not a lot of trauma other
821
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:21.239
than you see a lot of blood. It almost looks like if you had
822
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:24.199
a nosebleed, a horrible nosebleed,
and then just didn't bother to wipe any
823
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:29.239
of it off. But there's no
obvious trauma to his face. He looks
824
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:35.480
like he's sleeping. But as the
crime scene photos continue, you look in
825
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:38.559
his lap and you can clearly see
his cell phone is just resting in his
826
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:43.199
lap and his hand is just rested
right next to it. But as you
827
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:46.800
walk behind him and you look at
him from behind in the chair, you
828
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:53.519
can see a very small single bullet
hole towards the bottom of his baseball cap
829
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:59.079
at the back of his head and
near the recliner. So if you're watching
830
01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:02.400
on Patreon, the bullet hole's right
here on the back of my head where
831
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:10.719
I'm pointing. So obviously this is
an execution, an absolute execution from behind
832
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:14.639
dang your point blank in the back
of the head. He never had a
833
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:18.920
chance. There's a little bit of
blood spatter also on his left leg that's
834
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:21.760
propped up on the arm. You
can see some tissue and some blood.
835
01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:29.400
But other than that, that one
tiny hole ended his life into the face
836
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:33.760
or into the back of the head. Now, as you continue further back
837
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:41.840
behind Billy, there's a hallway,
and this hallway has like kids toys and
838
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:45.400
things kind of stacked up against the
right side of the wall. And at
839
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.760
first you think, Okay, I'm
just looking down a hallway. But if
840
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:51.840
you look very closely, there's a
door that's a jar at the end of
841
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.440
the hall and there's a door that's
a jar kind of to the left.
842
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:02.079
Okay, And if you look really
really closely, you can see two feet
843
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:08.239
one foot out of each doorway and
it hits you, Oh my god,
844
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:15.039
there's two more people. As you
walk down that hallway. The first person
845
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.119
that you come to at the end
of the hallway is seventeen year old Tanner.
846
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:25.079
Tanner's laying deceased in the bathroom.
He's flat on his back, his
847
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:30.840
left arm is across his stomach lower
chest area. His head is turned to
848
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:35.000
the right, and his right arm
is kind of fallen over, and his
849
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:41.280
wrist is rested against the toilet,
so it's like he just fell straight back.
850
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:47.679
Upon further inspection, you notice that
there is a single gunshot wound to
851
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:51.880
the forehead. It's right above his
left eye, and it is a point
852
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:59.119
blank execution. The killer shot Billy
in the back of the head, took
853
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:02.440
four or five steps down the hallway. You can just see it that Tanner
854
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:08.800
opened the bathroom door and shock that
he heard a gunshot when he opened the
855
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:13.960
door. The devil was standing right
there and executed him point blank in his
856
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:17.719
forehead. He never had a chance. Boom, he hits the ground.
857
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:29.800
Another photo in that same progression is
the wall facing. It's the interior of
858
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:31.360
the bathroom, but it's like you're
looking out into the hallway, so it's
859
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.320
basically what Tanner last saw was looking
out of this doorway, and you can
860
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:41.159
see how close that gunshot wound,
how the proximity of the weapon to the
861
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:45.159
head, because you can see all
the blowback blood spattered on the wall,
862
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.920
kind of dripping down the wall.
And it's eerie because that's the last thing
863
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:54.519
he saw before his little life was
taken from him. He never had a
864
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:58.320
chance. He never saw what coming, what was coming. He went straight
865
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:02.679
backwards. And then immediately right after
that gunshot wound was put to his head,
866
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.440
all the shooter had to do was
turn his arm to the right because
867
01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:10.400
the two doorways are right next to
each other, and that is when Summer
868
01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:15.679
Ernest opened her bedroom door and he
put a bullet straight into her face.
869
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:21.119
She is also deceased, laying on
her back, kind of on her left
870
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:26.320
side, with a single gunshot wound
to the face and it's located right between
871
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:30.280
her right eye and her lip.
She never had a chance. You can
872
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:36.039
even see the PATIKII. You can
see the wound on her face and it's
873
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:41.880
you know, indicative of a very
close contact wound. The unburnt powder striking
874
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.880
the skin. It causes like the
superficial injury on her face and she's gone.
875
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:50.599
I mean, it's just bam,
bam, bam, and three people
876
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:59.119
are murdered, and in nine minutes
he's out the door to say that this
877
01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:08.320
wasn't planning. I think is bullshit. It's horrifying to look at these photos
878
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:14.440
and to realize how quickly three lives
were snuffed out, and the reason why
879
01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:20.960
is going to blow your mind.
It's gonna absolutely blow your mind. They
880
01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:25.560
recover other bullets from the sheet rock, and I've got the photos of that
881
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:27.720
where they cut the sheet rock and
they pull it out. This is gonna
882
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:35.880
be a nine millimeter bullet fragment.
There's other photos too about the home where
883
01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:41.640
you know Billy was. His license
is there, and Billy was even an
884
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.760
organ donor. And you know,
I'm a proponent of local Louisiana Organ Procurement
885
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.039
Agency. But you can look in
whatever state you're listening in and see what
886
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:53.880
organ donation agency you have. In
Texas, I believe it's called TOPA.
887
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:58.159
So it's just your your state's initial
and then OPAH after it. You can
888
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:00.399
become an organ donor. It's so
simple and save people's lives. Billy was
889
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:06.640
an organ doner. I've got other
photos here after they remove Tanner and the
890
01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:13.000
amount of blood just covers the bathroom
floor. There's barbies laying in it.
891
01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:17.800
I mean kids, kids bathed here. Billy and the others are also labeled.
892
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:23.000
Their bodies are labeled. They have
tags around their ankles. It's got
893
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:29.680
no date information and another type of
identification measures on them, so that the
894
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:34.840
bodies are accounted for. And then
they're as always, people are put into
895
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:40.640
into body bags, right, and
so I do have the photos of that
896
01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:43.000
as well. I'll share the body
bag. It's it's sealed. You're not
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01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.479
going to see anything horrifying if you
don't know this. There's a lock on
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the body bag, and this is
how it's always done. But we have
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01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:54.359
to have chain of custody, not
only of evidence but also of bodies,
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01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:58.199
and so you'll see photographs of where
it's locked. It takes a picture of
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01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.439
the body bag being locked, and
and then once they get to the coroner's
902
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.880
office, they're gonna take pictures as
they cut the lock, and so they
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01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:08.000
make sure the right body is in
the right bag, and so on and
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01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:11.840
so forth. And one of the
last photos that I have is the peel
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01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.439
out marks in the gravel where Dakota
tore out in that truck. The police
906
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:18.560
didn't realize that they were. That's
what it was when they first pull up,
907
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:20.840
so you can see the back of
a police car actually parked right next
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01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:24.840
to it. But those are going
to actually be part of the crime scene
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01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:30.520
as well once they arrived on scene. Y'all, we have just gotten started
910
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:32.279
on this one too. I hate
to have to go into another part episode,
911
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.479
but y'all, you want to know
the story or not, let me
912
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:38.640
tell you the whole story. There's
plenty more left to go. You're not
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01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.640
going to believe all the twists and
turns in this case and the incredible police
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01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.319
work that was done. I don't
like this Dacoda guy. I know that
915
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.279
you've called onto that hanging there for
the next episode. If burning a bridge
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01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:51.199
takes too long, well baby,
I'm going to prefer to use explosives.








