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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime
podcast where I tell stories of real crimes

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with real victims, whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how

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is this even real? I use
my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and

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combine with my years as a criminal
justice educator, dig deep into complex cases

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of evil acts, some so evil
many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences.
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advised. Hey, y'all, Kelly Jennings

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here back for another episode of Unspeakable. How's it going? I know how

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it's going. Everybody's messaging me saying
you better hurry up and finish this dad

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gum story. We're invested, we
want to know. Well, babies,

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I'm here today. I'm gonna do
that for you. But before I get

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started, I do have some shout
outs I need to give. I got

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some new Patreon members and I want
to say hello to them, and there's

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a bunch of them, so let
me give some shout outs to miss Brandy

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Walker. Hello, Miss Brandy,
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Amy, thank you so much for the

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support of my show, Crystal Gerald, Alison Reeshard. Now, if you're

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from the South as Rechhard, if
you're from the North, it's probably Richard,

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but I'm saying Rechard. So miss
Allison Rechard, Hey girl, I've

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got Christina Stump and Brooke Rebstock,
Caitlyn Walker. Oh, Caitlyn, are

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you related to Brandy? Are y'all
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Hazelton. Hey, everyone, thank
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y'all. I got a whole bunch
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including crime scene photos from this episode
that we're we've been, the story

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we've been I've been covering, so
just to be transparent, though, there

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have been some changes to what we
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So that's why I've held off on
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for you. I know people have
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so we can see so hanging there. I'm probably gonna post today or tomorrow

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say that you can check them out. I am going to ask this one

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favor though. Anything that is shared
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are real victims and they're real people. I'm going to ask please do not

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share these outside of that community,
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a family member or someone who's not
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So you know there for you to
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those again. I do not want
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And there's multiple levels you can join, so hey, there's choice, go

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for it. Before I pick up
from where we left off last episode,

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I have to tell y'all a true
story that happened. If you remember I

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talked about little Tanner and how he
had that teacher and he called he said

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he wanted to be called coach Coach. Well, Coach Coach was involved in

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something with me this week, and
I want you to know that it went

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like buttah. If I was a
first responder, I first responded like a

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champion, but I just had a
kid pass out in class. He wasn't

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hydrated, but I screamed, I
need a teacher because he fell on my

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chest and I caught him. His
head never hit the ground, and I'm

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like shaken because he's a heavy kid
and I'm laying him to the ground and

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I screamed, help, I need
a teacher, help, and nobody heard

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me. And then out of the
corner of my eye, slow motion,

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here comes Coach Coach, the one
that Tanner loves so much, running through

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the hall, and he came and
he gave me some assistance. So shout

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out to Coach Coach Coach. I
get while you liked him because he's a

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good fellow and pretty couel story and
it made me think of Tanner, honestly.

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So all right, where we left
off last episode was that Tanner and

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Summer and Billy were murdered in their
home in less than nine minutes by the

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very guy that they had invited in
to try to give him some help when

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he was down on his luck.
His name was to go to Tario,

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and I know that it was heartbreaking
to kind of hear that story of what

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he did to those people. I
mean, just horrible. And then to

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find out through the nine one one
call that it wasn't just that he murdered

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those three people, but there were
two children, little children inside of that

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trailer. Whenever those murders went down, that witnessed it. That's almost too

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much from my heart to take.
There was seven year old Heaven and there

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was one year old Christopher, and
he shot Billy, their daddy while they

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were there in the room. And
you're like, well, Kelly, how

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would you know that they were there? Because later on this episode, I'm

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gonna let you hear Dakota in his
own in his own words, tell you

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what he did in the minutes that
he did it, and you're gonna hear

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that he mentions those babies in his
explanation. So that nine when one call

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came in to Livingston Parish Sheriff's office, they immediately dispatch officers over there.

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That's where they find the decedents and
they start their investigation there. Now at

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the time that that occurred, something
else had actually happened at the same about

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the same time, because remember there's
a delay from the time that a crime

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occurs. You know, someone's got
to report it or you know, someone

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has to give some type of information
to law enforcement so they can they can

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even respond to it. So a
little bit of time had actually had lapsed

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between when he murdered uh these three
and police got on scene. So that

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was roughly around eight thirty when that
nine when one call to came into Livingston

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Parish Sheriff's office and police got on
scene him were starting to investigate this triple

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homicide. Well, wouldn't you know
at eight forty two ailm. So this

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is just what fifteen twenty minutes later, another nine one one call comes in,

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but in a different parish. It's
actually an adjoining parish of ours,

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Ascension Parish, and Ascension Parish Sheriff's
office receives another nine one one call.

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Now, when this call comes in, they are able to determine the operators

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are able to determine that the man
on the line is named Keith Terrio.

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Well, that Terrio sounds kind of
kind of familiar, don't Dakota Terrio?

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Keith Terrio, Yeah, it's because
it's Dakota's dad. Now, why is

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Keith Terrio calling into nine one one? Well, it was actually kind of

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hard for them to figure it out. At first because it was very muffled

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when he was speaking to them,
was like, and I know that sounds

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kind of silly, but that's kind
of what it sounded like. It was

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very hard to understand what he was
saying, and what they were able to

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determine by phone was that he had
been shot. Okay, Dakota's father had

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been shot, and where had he
been shot in the face, specifically the

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mouth. Okay. So deputies were
dispatched to the scene, and there was

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a sergeant Callaway who recounted, you
know, kind of what happened once the

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patrol units got there, and that
he actually ran in to try to assist

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mister Keith Terryo when he got into
the house. Matter of fact, let

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me back of a second. This
is something that's not on the record,

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but I know this because I know
one of the dispatchers that was part of

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this case, and she told me
that they were actually having a really hard

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time finding where Keith Terrio was.
So if you watch the movies, okay,

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you think that you call nine one
one and nine one one knows exactly

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where you are, and they're gonna
say woo woo woo. Right, they're

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gonna send people straight to you.
Yeah, that's not how it works.

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Okay, I wish that's how it
worked, but it's not. You know,

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if you call from a landline,
this might be some good information for

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you just for the safety of your
you know, home, to know this.

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If you call from a landline,
then what pops up is kind of

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the like the billing address to the
home. So you call from one,

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two, three four lollipop lane,
that's going to pop up in the system

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at nine one one, And so
even if you can't speak, they would

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be able to direct themselves to where
you are. But if you call from

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a cell phone, that becomes a
lot more difficult. And what they were

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trying to do because they couldn't understand
where he was coming in where he was

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calling from, was they were having
to do what we call like triangulation methods

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where there's like three points and they
think you're between those three points, but

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they've got to just kind of figure
it out. Well, when when your

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victim is calling you from inside a
home and you can only get within like

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three football fields of where they might
be, can you imagine how difficult that

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would be. But this is where
you give kudos to law enforcement because they

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were able to get there within minutes
and find him. And from what I

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understand, the way they were able
to find him was because the deputy was

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alert and noticed that the front door
of this trailer where they were living was

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open, and he believed that to
be the home where they were and he

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was right, and so he made
it on scene. Like, what are

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the chances of that? I think
that that's just incredible and I think it

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deserves more attention and kudos to the
essential parents Sheriff's office for working so hard

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to figure out where he was to
try to save his life. Now,

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when they got into the home and
they laid their eyes on Keith Terrrio,

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guess what else they noticed? There
was another body next to Keith Terrio.

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Guests who was lying next to him
also shot Dakota's mom. So in the

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last thirty five minutes, Billy Ernest
has been murdered, Tanner Ernest has been

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murdered, Summer Ernest has been murdered. And now we have two people in

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Ascension Parish, one with a bullet
hole in the mouth and the other one

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a bullet hole kind of in the
forehead. But they're not dead yet.

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Amazingly, incredibly, they're not dead. So they start trying to figure out

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what's going on here. So deputy
his name was Garrett Keith, and another

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deputy, Nicky Anderson, they were
there trying to figure out what's going on.

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Medical attention got there and they were
asking questions of you know what happened,

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and whenever they were asking him,
it says that I'm assuming this is

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referring to Deputy Keith because it says
he he asked Keith who shot him,

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and Keith replied, my son.
He said it to the police. They

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did not guess this. He said
my son through his mouth that was blown

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open with a gunshot. And that's
whenever Callaway asked Keith who his son was,

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and Keith replied Dakota. So he
was alert enough to be able to

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answer those question. But in the
nine one one call, he was struggling.

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He was struggling so hard they couldn't
understand him. But they did think

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that he was saying I'm dying.
That's what they thought he was saying,

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was I'm dying. And I can't
imagine the fear that Keith must have felt

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after he said my son, and
they said which son? They said he

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said Dakota, all right. Now, after that happened, they said that

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Keith didn't speak anymore, but he
was still following them with his eyes,

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so he was still somewhat alert,
but he just wasn't able to speak anymore.

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So. Deputy Keith also mentioned that
upon arrival at the scene, he

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gave details regarding the dying declaration of
Keith Terryo, and in that conversation,

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Deputy Keith asked Keith Terryo what happened
to him after he had said who shot

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you? And he says that Keith
replied by making a finger gun. So

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if you're watching me podcast right now, I'm showing you what they're talking about,

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right making a little pupu with his
hand with his thumb and his pointer

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finger. He made a little finger
gun and Keith Deputey Keith had asked him

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where he'd been shot, and Keith
gestured or pointed to his head. That's

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whenever he had said who shot you? He said, my son. And

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then he was just kind of observing
around the room while he was trying to

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assess what's going on, and the
deputy noticed that he saw a speedloader for

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a revolver on a nearby nightstand,
and so he then asked Keith, hey,

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have you been shot with a revolver
because he didn't see a gun,

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he just saw the loader and Keith
shook his head. No, No,

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I wasn't shot with a revolver.
So Deputy Keith then asked him if he'd

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been shot with a semi automatic gun, and Keith shook his head. Yes.

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This guy, in his most dire
straits, was able to give incredible

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information to this officer. And then
Deputy Keith confirmed keith statement regarding that the

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person that shot him. He asked, you know your son shot you,

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and Keith nodded yes. But then
Keith made one more statement. This is

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before I know, I'm kind of
out of order here. But when he

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said that he didn't speak anymore.
He said one more thing to that officer.

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He looked him in his eyes and
he said, I'm dying. Please

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tell my kids that I love them. Regardless of what type of lifestyle these

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people lived, it should still break
your heart. No one deserves to be

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a victim like this, and at
the hands of your own son, and

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he says, I'm dying, Please
tell my children that I love them.

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That is just disgustingly heartbreaking. So
you know they recorded all of this and

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put that into evidence. Now,
what's even crazier about that is, while

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they're in there trying to help these
two and Keith Terryo is giving his dying

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declaration ascension, parish sheriff's office goes
through the trailer to kind of clear it

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right and to see what's going on, and guess what they find in the

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back of the trailer in a bedroom, Kim Minks. So if you remember

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the very first episode, I was
telling you there's a lot of players in

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this and that Jacob Chaston owned the
trailer that the Terrios lived in, and

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there was also the woman named Kim
Minks who lived in the trailer with them.

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They find Kim in the trailer in
the back bedroom, but amazingly,

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Kim's not dead, She's not even
shot. She's asleep. So I know,

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right now you're gonna call bullshit because
I called bullshit right here at this

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moment. I'm like, you didn't
sleep through two people getting shot in the

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trailer. I'm not believing that whatsoever. Okay, what I'm about to say

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is absolutely one percent hearsay. I
don't know if this is true or not,

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but this was told to me by
someone who knows Kim minks. Okay,

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I'm not going to disclose that person
because they spoke to me under,

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you know, ananimity and didn't want
me calling him out. But basically,

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what this person told me was that
he knew her from years prior and that

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they kind of ran with a rougher
crowd. And so I'm like, how

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could she have slept through those gunshots? I'm just not buying that, especially

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in a trailer with thin walls.
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if they were drinking a lot the
night before, or maybe dabbling and

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maybe some drugs. Again, y'all, I don't know that. I'm not

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putting this on that woman. I'm
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Then maybe that's what it was.
She was just sleeping really really hard.

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That's the best guess I have to
give you how she slept through it.

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But they find Kim alive and she's
not fake sleeping. They even say

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in the statements the police were like, she had to be like awakened,

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and she was not awake. They
woke her up. She was not fake

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sleeping. They wake her up from
her stupor. She kind of comes out

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of the building and she has no
clue that anyone's been shot and murdered in

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the house, no clue. They
tell her when she gets outside that they

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that Keith and Lee Elizabeth have been
shot, and she's just stunned. She's

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just flabbergasted that two people have been
shot. Now. Kim immediately gets on

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the phone and calls Jacob Chaston that
owns the trailer and says, oh my

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god, Lee and Keith have been
shot. This is about nine twenty seven

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am. Listen. Dakota had already
murdered the billion them by like eight thirty.

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So he's now killed five or shot
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What an animal? Oh my god. So when Jacob finds out,

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he's like what and he gets in
his car and he comes flying back to

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the house because he's just he can't
believe it. Right, these are his

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friends that have been shot now based
on the reports that I have Keith,

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excuse me, Jacob did not work
very far necessarily from where the trailer was,

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because he got back within just a
few minutes. He worked at a

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place nearby, and he was actually
near blue by you, so if you're

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from here you can kind of see
where he was. If you're not,

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it's not a big deal. But
he was working for Gulf South Engineering and

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Testing, which was on Burnside Avenue
in Gonzales at the time, and he

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says, look, I left at
six thirty this morning, and everything was

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fine whenever I left. Now.
Kim, on the other hand, she

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had a reason of why maybe she
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And her thing was that the truck
that was hers, Jacob had borrowed

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it and drove to work with the
truck, so it looked like nobody else

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was home because the vehicle wasn't there. And if that is not the best

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luck I've ever heard of in my
entire life. Wow, she needed to

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go to the casino because I have
no doubt if he had realized she was

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there, he would have killed her
too. He was on an absolute rampage

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and he did not care. At
this point, they do take Lee and

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Keith to the hospital to our Lady
of the Lake, and they do a

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whole bunch of life saving measures to
them, but unfortunately neither one of them

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survived. So now we have a
body count of five people in less than

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an hour. Okay, And to
make things even more difficult, this is

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across two parishes. So Livingston is
doing their investigation, since parish is doing

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their investigation, but they don't know
yet that they're related and that they've got

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this common denominator, which is Dakota
Terio. So when Jacob gets back to

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the trailer, it's about nine thirty
seven am, he just cannot believe this.

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But because Keith told the police,
hey, Dakota did this, you

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know what Jacob does and this is
so heartbreaking to me as well. He

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says, hang on, I think
I can find him, and he gets

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out his cell phone and he dials
Summer Earnest but the phone rings and rings

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and rings, and no one picks
up. And we all know why because

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Summer was dead too. She just
didn't answer the phone. So now we

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have a hot mess between two parishes. And this is y'all. Just having

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one murder is bad enough. Imagine
having a triple homicide you're trying to figure

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out, and a double homicide right
next door. So two investigations are now

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in full force between the two parishes, and they do what any investigators would

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do to try to get the ball
rolling. At least Ascension Parish had a

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suspect livingsteadon't at the exact moment,
didn't exactly have a suspect, other than

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they could have spoken to Casey Ernest, who was the wife of Billy,

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to say, whoa, you know
what could have gone on here? So

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they start canvassing the area for cameras. Okay, because cameras will get you.

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Man, cameras, you can have
the perfect crime, you think somewhere,

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but the cameras are going to catch
you. So where were the places

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that the Ascension Parish Sheriff's office went. They went to Fred's on the River,

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which is a place a lot of
US locals know about Fred's Food Mart

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and Turo's Grocery because they believed that
those places would have caught on camera the

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vehicle leaving. But remember Dakota didn't
have a vehicle. He would always ask

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Summer to drive in places, but
she didn't have a vehicle. Guess whose

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vehicle. Summer always drove Billy's truck, her daddy's truck, which was a

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gray truck. So they believed maybe
we should be looking for well, I'll

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take that back. They didn't believe
anything, but they knew that they needed

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to be looking for Dakota in a
vehicle at some point because he was they

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knew he left by vehicle, So
they went to these places on the river.

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They then went to another place called
the Blue Bar. And the reason

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they went to the Blue Bar is
because Keith Terrio was known to frequent that

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spot. So while they're at the
Blue Bar and they're asking questions, I

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already told you that that Master Trooper
had called in and gave her story about

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whenever she was mentoring Kim Patman and
Dakota was there, and how Dakota had

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said that, you know, he
wanted to kill his parents, blah blah

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blah blah blah. Well, all
of that's and just now coming into apso

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and they're kind of trying to put
these details together. But they find out

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from that bar from a bartender that
there had been an incident either the night

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before a few nights before Queen Dakota
and his father, and that she also

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had to kick Dakota out of that
bar because she said he was acting like

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a looney tune and jumping all over
the pool tables and causing an absolute scene

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which I believe was because of methampthetic
means, just because of the way they

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described his behavior. Now, two
other things that I haven't mentioned to you

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yet, but this might be a
good time to tell you. This is,

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you know, some people might wonder
well other than him being a total

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butthole. Okay, Dakota didn't have
a prior arrest record. How is that?

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So you know? But he actually
did. And I'm not going to

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go into reading these reports. I
will put them one line though for you

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so you can see the actual narrative
on these reports. But there were two

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incidences amongst others that stood out to
me, and one of them was a

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report taken by a woman she called
in. This was way prior to this

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incident, but it kind of shows
you the creepy behavior that Dakota was capable

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of. She called in because she
said that there was a man beating on

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her door and she was afraid to
open her door because it was the middle

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of the night. But she's beating
on the door and he's claiming that people

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are chasing him, and so she
gets freaked out says you gotta go,

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I don't know, don't let them
chase you up here to my house and

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she calls her husband, who then
shows up, and Dakota is just standing

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in her driveway like kind of creepily
walking about and looking around, and he's

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like, Podna, you got to
go. You can't stay here. And

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so they ended up making a police
report about that because he was there was

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nobody chasing him. He was just
bizarre acting and it was just a suspicious

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person case that had been called in. But there's another arrest that happened,

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and it's where Keith was with Dakota
again prior to this incident, and they

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found drug paraphernalia in the vehicle,
and so they were arrested on those drug

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paraphernalia charges. So he did have
run ends with the law. He also

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had the report of beating up his
wife. So there's a pattern here of

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bad behavior or at at minimum frowned
upon behavior, you know what I mean.

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But this dude's got problems. Then. I believe I told y'all last

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episode that he was dishonorably discharged from
the military apso figured that out around this

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time that he had punched his superior
in the face and been dishonorably discharged.

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So they do know that he has
the propensity for, you know, to

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be dangerous. And that's when they
start looking at social media and it cracks

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me. This kind of cracks me
up that people post stuff on social media

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thinking that there's no law enforcement presence
on social media. People are so dumb

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they post anything on there like nobody's
gonna like, nobody's gonna know. You

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know what I'm saying that that you've
located. I mean that you've mentioned these

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things online and they're not watching you. So like dope dealers, you know,

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and they like to put up all
the pictures of all the money in

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their hands. You're a moron,
you know, you building the case yourself.

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All right. Well, it turns
out during their investigation that a woman

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named Jarrolyn Carter was outside of the
Pecan Grove chevron and she said that she

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was in the general area on Church
Point, which was kind of near the

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Terrio's trailer, when she heard six
gun shots in the morning time on that

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January twenty sixth, and so she
said she exited her energy vehicle, which

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she was in an energy vehicle because
she was a meter reader, and she

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heard six shots, but she said
there was no yelling there was no screaming

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or anything else unusual, and that
the traffic was normal. She didn't really

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see anything else, and that she
had then got back in her vehicle went

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back down Church Point Road towards Roddy
Road to the American Seafood Market to get

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a drink and to use the restroom. And she claimed that at about a

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thousand feet prior to that Roddy Road, she saw a gray colored four door

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Dodge pickup approached the vehicle that she
was driving from the rear really quickly,

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so it flew up on her,
and so she edged closer to the right

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side of the road so that that
car could pass her. That's how fast

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he was driving. And as he
passed, she said that she observed that

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it was a young white male driving
the vehicle and there was nobody else in

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the truck, and that he turned
onto Roddy Road in the general direction of

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Airline Highway. She then finished going
to the market, that Seafood Market,

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and was doing meter readings, and
that's whenever she saw news crews and police

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activity near the Tario trailer. And
so someone who was outside in that area

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kind of watching and seeing what was
going on then told her that a shooting

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had occurred right there. So she
then later read about it on Facebook and

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so she made a comment about it, and that comment is what led the

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detectives to get that statement from her. So if she hadn't mentioned it on

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Facebook, detectives would have never known. Now, what I kind of started

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laughing about here is not her statement
that she made on the internet. It's

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actually another person's statement that made me
kind of tickled. That person was named

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Lane Guillory. She is a white
female from Gonzalez Well. Lane started making

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statements on social media saying that she
saw Dakota Terrio on the roadway that morning.

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All right, so I'm going to
tell you something. People, you

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start writing things and saying you saw
things, especially when we're down to now

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a five person murder, you might
want to be careful what you put online.

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So she says that she was driving
her children to the Jack in the

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Box, which was nearby on black
By Road, and she approached a four

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way stop which was at that Roddy
Road. And when she came to the

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stop and she started to go,
she saw a gray truck driving southbound to

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her right. She stopped to allow
that vehicle by which didn't stop. It

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just slowed down a little bit and
then went through the intersection. And so

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she said, I saw it.
It was a two tone Dodge Ram and

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the driver had his window down,
so she clearly saw him. She said

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that the driver, she described him
as a quote unquote maniac or a quote

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unquote man on a mission. So
after reading about those murders on social media

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and seeing to code a Terry's picture, she then realized that he was the

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subject that was driving the truck.
So she couldn't give the time estimate of

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when she was at the intersection.
But by that point when the investigators were

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talking to her, her little two
children had become restless and we're kind of

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demanding her attention, and so she
said, look, I'll give a recorded

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audio statement tomorrow, but that's all
I can tell you right now. So

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the detectives go and they say,
we're going to go locate the jack in

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the box where she said she went
to just see and try to get a

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time frame from that surveillance, right
because that would give them some you know,

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her going through the drive through with
then give them an idea of when

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Dakota must have passed her within a
few so the detectives go and they get

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the video surveillance footage from the Jack
in the Box. But when they went

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back to miss Gillory's residence to get
the official audio statement of what she'd observed,

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that's whenever she has to kind of
come clean because the police never found

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her on the Jack in the Box
video. So step one, if you're

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gonna say you went and did something, actually go and do it. And

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that's when she embarrassingly had to state
to them that she actually has IBS,

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irritable bowel syndrome. And even though
she left the house that morning and she

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was gonna take them to the Jack
in Box, she never actually went there

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because she had to ship And y'all, that isn't the official report. And

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I've out fell out of my chair, and I know we're talking about a

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mass murder, but that's funny talk
about getting called out not being where you

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say you were. So anyway,
if you have IBS, maybe don't write

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all of your involvement of what you
supposedly saw and did online because the police

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are going to follow up. And
then she just really apologized and was embarrassed

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to discuss that medical condition. And
basically the police were now kind of aggravated

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and they deemed all the information irrelevant
to the investigation, but they put this

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in the record just in case.
So now it's on a national international podcast

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that you have ibs and that you
lied online about what you want to do.

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So just a little, a little
morning there, be careful what you

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ride on social media, all right, So moving forward, you know,

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they're finding out more information about where
Dakota had supposedly been and what had supposedly

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been taking place. Now about ten
fifty eight, the same morning that these

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murders occurred. Listen to that for
a second. Don't let that get lost

408
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:10.200
in all my wording, y'all.
He started murdering people around eight in the

409
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:14.200
morning, eight thirty in the morning. By ten fifty eight, like two

410
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:19.440
hours later, after he killed five
people, APSO and LPSO made the connection,

411
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:23.480
Oh my gosh, we have the
same suspect, y'all. That's quick,

412
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.960
right, that they're able to figure
this out. Also, what became

413
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:33.200
super important was that the meter reader
who said she saw the gray truck and

414
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:38.200
that she saw Dakodatario and would identify
that he was a young white male driving

415
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:45.119
it. Well, we have meter
readers We have license plate readers all over

416
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.519
the United States, and I don't
think people realize that either driving up and

417
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.799
down the interstate and even off of
the interstate, there's license plate readers,

418
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.359
so we can figure out where you
are. Guys. It read your license

419
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.200
plate. And there happened to be
a license plate hit on low and behold

420
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:06.359
Billie's gray truck, the same one
that that meter reader said she saw flying

421
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:11.279
by, so bingo. It hit
on a meter reader that was or a

422
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.200
license plate reader that was it ten
eastbound in Slidell. And I even have

423
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.960
the picture of that. I'll post
the picture for you online so you can

424
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.319
see what it looks like. And
it's a perfect shot of the license plate

425
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.559
and of the back of the truck. So they now even know where he

426
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:33.839
was within a recent time frame.
I found that just amazing work there to

427
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.519
be able to narrow this down so
quickly. So once they, you know,

428
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.599
have their their death statement or dying
statements from Keith Terrio, he's able

429
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.279
they're able to connect this and say, oh my god, we've got you

430
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.319
know, this happening over two parishes. The Ascension Parish Sheriff's office went ahead

431
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.759
and they are they cut the warrant
right then. So it was one count

432
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.920
of home invasion for kicking in the
doors of the Dakota of the Teria residence,

433
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.200
two counts of first degree murder as
both of them were dead by now,

434
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.240
and one count of illegal use of
a weapon because you cannot use a

435
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.279
weapon to kill someone illegally. Now, Livingston Parish, y'all, they're doing

436
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.720
their deal too, but their warrant's
going to be cut separate, okay,

437
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.480
because it's a different parish. Even
though we have a common guy, we're

438
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:20.160
still going to have to work in
our own parishes. So about two twenty

439
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:24.039
one PM, a call comes in
from dispatch and they received notice from a

440
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.680
caller that said, I think I
might know where Dakota is going. He's

441
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:34.119
either going to his grandfather's residence in
New Orleans or he's headed to Alabama.

442
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.440
And now you're like, well,
damn, that's kind of a big gap

443
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:44.960
there. Well, New Orleans is
close enough, right, So at just

444
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.240
about an hour and a half later, an hour and forty five minutes later,

445
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:53.400
a Fugitive Task Force goes down there
and alerts that you should never ever,

446
00:32:53.480 --> 00:33:00.200
ever underestimate the power of a nosy
neighbor because his grandfather's neighbor said he

447
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.960
saw Dakota show up. Now again, if you don't really pick up on

448
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.400
this, people like to insert themselves
into big situations to feel important. Right.

449
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.599
Well, they weren't sure is he
telling the truth, but they were

450
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.119
able to figure out very quickly yes
he was, because he mentioned something that

451
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:22.519
had not been said to any one. Only one person knew this information.

452
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:28.519
And at this point the only person
knew this information was kim Minks and the

453
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:32.160
police. But what that neighbor in
New Orleans told them was that he saw

454
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.720
Dakota in a gray truck. But
he said and he had a black dog

455
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:42.440
with him. Well that was true
because kim Minks said that their dog was

456
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:47.359
missing from the trailer and that Dakota
was fond of that dog. So it

457
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.519
seems that after he went in and
murdered his parents, that he got in

458
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.640
the truck, the dog followed him
and jumped in, and he said,

459
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:58.240
okay, boy, let's go for
a ride. And what he did was

460
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.839
he drove to his grandfather's house,
but then changed his mind and he let

461
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:07.279
that dog out. But then he
just kept on moving to another location.

462
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.079
So we do know that he's been
to New Orleans and that that was a

463
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:14.360
good call that came in about where
he might be headed. Well, you

464
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:15.840
know, alerts have gone out everywhere
that we're looking for this guy. It

465
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.239
made national news too. If you
google this, you can find it on

466
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:24.079
national websites. But at five pm
the same day of these five murders,

467
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.599
a driver in Alabama calls in and
claims, Hey, I'm seeing Billy's truck

468
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.480
on the road. I'm seeing that
truck that's been on the news that they're

469
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.119
looking for. And again, how
do you know whether you believe somebody or

470
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:43.480
not, you know, but that
driver says something that says, yep,

471
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:45.440
he's telling the truth. And that
driver says, I know it's his truck.

472
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:51.280
And there's an LSU sticker block letter
sticker on the back window. And

473
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:55.119
that was an He gave an exact
description of the sticker that Billy had on

474
00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:00.519
his truck. Because remember Billy,
he loved the Lord, his FAMI and

475
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.639
LSU and in that order. Right, So they say, bingo, he

476
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.760
did go to Alabama, he's headed, he's in Alabama. So that whoever

477
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:14.000
that caller was that called in,
they knew their stuff. Now do you

478
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:22.119
remember in episode one that I spoke
about Dakota's early life and his family,

479
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:28.400
and I had mentioned that he had
a grandmother in Virginia who he had lived

480
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.440
with for a while, and the
grandmother tried like hell to love him,

481
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.119
but he just didn't act right and
was doing creepy crazy things until she finally

482
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.280
said, you got to go,
and that's when he came back and started

483
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.000
living with his parents again in Ascension. Well, that grandmother's name was Peggy,

484
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:46.519
you remember her. Well, police
here, law enforcement here called up

485
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:52.039
to Virginia and they spoke to Elizabeth
Terrio's sister and said, hey, you

486
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:58.320
know your sister's been murdered. Your
brother in law has been murdered, and

487
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.960
we're very concerned about your mother or
Peggy, because we think he might be

488
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:06.159
heading to her, and we know
that he's shot five people already. This

489
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.960
could be a problem. So Elizabeth's
sister calls her mom and says, Mama,

490
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.880
you're not gonna believe this. You
know everybody's dead. She has to

491
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:17.639
get through that whole thing, but
I think you should leave the house.

492
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.760
So Peggy and the sister kind of
talk it through, and let me tell

493
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.880
you about Peggy's house real quick.
It is such a nice house. I

494
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.159
only saw a still shot of it
in a body cam that I witnessed.

495
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:32.400
But if it's a beautiful home,
I want you to think of like a

496
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.960
big almost like white plantation style home. You can. It's a classy home.

497
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:42.639
It's very nice, very well kept. It is the opposite of the

498
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:47.599
squawalor that that Dakota lived in here
in Louisiana. It's just a very nice,

499
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.960
manicured home. And so miss Peggy
says, yeah, I'm afraid of

500
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.400
him now. I think I'll leave
my house. And so she and her

501
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.880
and then her daughter that are that
are alive, Elizabeth's sister decide to put

502
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:05.280
Miss Peggy in a hotel for the
night, and I think that was really

503
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:13.360
smart. Well, guess what,
Nothing happened. The night went, and

504
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:19.039
the night came, and nothing happened. But the Virginia County, Virginia Sheriff's

505
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.679
office was put on notice that hey, y'all need to be looking for him.

506
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.320
He might be heading your way and
we need to make sure that we

507
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:28.280
keep an eye out on miss Peggy
because we don't want anything to happen to

508
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:34.320
her. But eight a m.
The following morning of the murders, exactly

509
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.719
twenty four hours and Miss Peggy calls
and asked the Virginia Deputies, Hey,

510
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:44.400
would you mind coming to my home
and clearing it before I go in,

511
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:49.840
because I'm afraid he might be hiding
in the house. The police say absolutely,

512
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:55.159
and they show up. They go
in the house, they start clearing

513
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.800
it room by room by room.
I remember it's a big house, and

514
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:07.400
guess what they find? Nothing?
They actually found absolutely nothing. The house

515
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.559
wasn't just as Miss Peggy had left
it, and Dakota wasn't there, and

516
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.239
she's like, whoo right, okay, good, I'm gonna go on inside.

517
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.719
The police kind of say their goodbyes, and they turn and they walk

518
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:23.880
out the front door, and guess
what they find. Dakota Tario pulls up

519
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:30.119
in her driveway in that gray truck
exactly twenty four hours later, with the

520
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:38.320
police right there. I cannot impress
upon you how absolutely incredible. I haven't

521
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:43.480
been able to detail every single solitary
step that the police took, law enforcement

522
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:47.719
took, but I guarantee you that
they just saved Peggy's life by being able

523
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.039
to connect the dots. Two agencies
work together. Callers called in and did

524
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:57.519
their civic duty and they were able
to nail this sucker before he ever made

525
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.760
it in the house. So the
police are like, holy crap, here

526
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.880
he is, and so they draw
guns. Right, let me see your

527
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:07.079
hands, Let me see your hands. Now, this is where people all

528
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.320
over the internet when they watched the
you know, the body cam or doing

529
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.840
the whole. Oh, they didn't
have to pull a gun on him.

530
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.840
He didn't do anything to them.
Fuck you, whoever you are, and

531
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:21.119
you're making that decision, and that
please don't ever be around if some shit

532
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.599
goes down. You're the problem in
society. They pulled the guns on the

533
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:29.039
psalm bitch because he just killed five
people, not because police like to pull

534
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.599
guns on people, despite what the
media may tell you. So he's drawn

535
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:35.400
and he's at gunpoint. And guess
what that little bastard does when he steps

536
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.320
out of the vehicle. He has
a gun in his hand before they even

537
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:43.480
saw it, and he puts it
up in the air. Now, is

538
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.360
he trying to do suicide by cop? Maybe so, because if you remember

539
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:51.800
that state trooper that called in saying
that he talked to him and Kim Patman

540
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.039
when they were younger. He said
to that cop. I want to go

541
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.159
murder my parents, and then I
hope that I can do suicide by cop.

542
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.360
Maybe he was trying to draw that
to do it. But guess what,

543
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.800
the boys in blue are trained.
Okay, they don't want to kill

544
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.320
him. They want to take him
into custody. So even when he pulls

545
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:13.840
out a gun and has already killed
five people and he puts that gun up,

546
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.239
they still don't shoot him. They
continue to give him to commands.

547
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:21.679
He doesn't quite follow them to a
t but eventually he brings the gun down,

548
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.719
he drops the magazine, he strips
the magazine from the weapon, he

549
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.280
drops the weapon, and then he
drops down to his stomach and they take

550
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.280
him into custody. He's even too
big of a coward to kill himself,

551
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:37.599
and in this instance it wouldn't have
hurt my feelings, but they take him

552
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:44.840
into custody. No incident. They
got that guy in custody within one day

553
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:51.199
of mass murdering five innocent people in
another state. Do you know how far

554
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.679
he drove And you're like, well, yeah, you just said, Louisiana

555
00:40:53.719 --> 00:41:00.840
to Virginia, fourteen hour drive.
He drove to get to that grandma,

556
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.639
and he still wasn't able to do
it. We beat him at his own

557
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.320
game and got him and took him
into custody. And would you like to

558
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.519
know, based on the bodycam when
he was taken into custody, would you

559
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.559
like to know what his statement was
to the officer as he handcuffed him.

560
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.880
And this is a quote, did
they all die? I shot all them

561
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:27.760
bitches? That was his statement.
Wow, Because you may consider them them

562
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.360
bitches, but I think a whole
lot more of those people that you murdered,

563
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.000
and I think a lot of my
listeners do as well, because they

564
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.119
were more than that. They were
a little teenage boy, his older sister

565
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.880
and their daddy, and then the
two people that brought you into this earth

566
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.199
and tried like hell to take care
of you and make you act right.

567
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:52.920
That to them, bitches were good
people doing their best. So they take

568
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.599
him and they bring him up to
the jail. Well, what he doesn't

569
00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.480
know is that he's got a force
coming that he's not prepared for. And

570
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:07.079
the force coming would be a livingstone
Parish Sheriff's Office detective named Lieutenant Calvin Bowden.

571
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.360
Now I'm gonna say this because it's
my podcast. I have the pleasure

572
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.840
of knowing Lieutenant Bowden at the time. Lieutenant Bowden, I have the pleasure

573
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:21.079
of knowing him personally. And this
dude here is a bang up guy.

574
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:25.280
He is a good man. He's
he's good at his job. If you

575
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.599
walk into his office, man,
there's just it's just covered with certificates and

576
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.800
plaques and schools that he's gone to. And he's a polygraph examiner and which

577
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.639
is not easy, by the way, and he's gone through all these you

578
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.119
know, FBI academies, and he's
got these challenge coins all over his walls,

579
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:46.440
and he's just good at what he
does. He's everything that a victim

580
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:52.039
would pray for in a detective trying
to solve their crime. And I mean

581
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.360
that from the bottom of my heart. If he ever hears this podcast,

582
00:42:54.840 --> 00:43:01.719
I think the world of Detective Bowden
and Dakota Terio and all of his smoothness.

583
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.920
I don't think he knew what was
coming. And Detective Bowden drove down

584
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:15.079
there all fourteen hours and was waiting
for him when the interrogation started. All

585
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:20.440
right, So I want you to
imagine that there's a very small room with

586
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:22.239
kind of like cinder block walls.
It's not big at all. There's a

587
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:27.280
table in it, very sterile,
no pictures, no nothing. It's just

588
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.280
one small room with a table,
and there's Detective Bowden and another detective sitting

589
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:37.320
next to him. There's Dakota who
is brought in handcuffed, all six foot

590
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.639
seven inch of him. And then
there's just like this padding type looking yellow

591
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.920
thing on the wall, and there's
a white board with nothing written on it.

592
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.920
And that's pretty much what's in the
room. So when it comes to

593
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.440
an investigation, and I'm sure you
know, if you're into true crime,

594
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.559
you know this, there's a method
to the madness whenever you're trying to gather

595
00:43:55.719 --> 00:44:00.360
information from from a you know,
a suspect in this instant man, we

596
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.480
want a confession, right, We
really would like to have a confession.

597
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.400
What in the world could cause someone
to go postal and murder five people,

598
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:15.840
including his own parents? Right?
So this entire interrogation is almost two hours

599
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.320
long, okay, And it may
sound like a long time to you,

600
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.199
it doesn't to me. And I've
watched it multiple times through and through trying

601
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:29.239
to take note of everything that went
down. But there's certain things that Detective

602
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.719
Bowden is going to have to try
to elicit from the code to Tario.

603
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.119
And this is an art as well
as a science. Okay, you got

604
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:42.920
to be able to build rapport with
this person, make them maybe not trust

605
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.800
you, but believe that you're gullible
enough to think that they're not a bad

606
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:50.519
guy and that there's a reason and
you want to try to extract that information

607
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:54.159
from them. But this was not
an easy one. But this one was

608
00:44:54.280 --> 00:45:00.039
pretty cool because you know, Bowden
is kind of an assuming fellow. He's

609
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:06.039
quiet, he's stocky. He knows
his shit, but he's not one of

610
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.000
those guys that's going to walk into
the room and necessarily make you think he

611
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.440
knows his shit. And I don't
mean that in a bad way. I

612
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.239
mean that in a he's kind of
just quiet, and hey, man,

613
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:19.239
what's going on? His job?
His job he recognizes in that moment is

614
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.480
that he's got to figure out what
makes Dakota tick. Okay, what makes

615
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:30.280
him uncomfortable or what elicits a response
from him that maybe isn't verbal but is

616
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.840
a social or a body language queue
that he's getting to him in some way.

617
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:37.639
And I'll post this online too so
that y'all can see this. But

618
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:44.480
I took a screenshot or a picture
of an interrogation sheet that I have,

619
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.840
and it's part of what's called the
John Read method. They abbreviate in the

620
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.559
note taking any type of gesture that
this person might make and what they were

621
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:57.960
saying at that time, because they
can then make the correlation between what they

622
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.280
said and what's making that person uncomfortable. So some of the things that they

623
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:06.280
might notate that the detective might notate
is if there's like a grooming gesture where

624
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.079
they run their hands through their hair, or if they repeat the question.

625
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:14.559
So like, for example, repeating
a question is usually what someone does when

626
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.920
they're lying because they're trying to buy
more time. So your kids do this,

627
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.320
teenagers do this, Hey what are
you doing in there? And they

628
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.239
look at you and they go,
oh, what am I doing in there?

629
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.559
It's because they're trying to make time
and space so that they can kind

630
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.000
of think up and answer while you're
like, yeah, I saw you,

631
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:31.079
what are you doing over there?
And they're trying to come up with that

632
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:37.280
response. You know, if they
groom their hair, it's almost like a

633
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.239
release of stress, right, You're
kind of doing a movement to release stress.

634
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.880
It's like people who run in place
when they're sitting there and their leg

635
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:49.159
is shaking, they would write that
down. When people cross their arms in

636
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.719
front of them while someone's talking to
them, that's a subconscious way of trying

637
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.519
to create a barrier between you and
the person asking questions. And it's also

638
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.840
a soothing behavior that you do.
That's why people bring their knees up a

639
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:05.239
lot of times and investigate interrogations.
You'll see them like pull their knees up

640
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.280
and kind of hug their legs.
It's a signal that they're trying to self

641
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:13.920
soothe. Okay, so all of
this interrogation behavior is worth noting, and

642
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.800
Detective Bowden is going to evaluate that
body language. He's going to document any

643
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.639
document any changes in behavior that he
sees. And I kind of wanted to

644
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:24.800
show you what I mean, So
I'm going to post these pictures online,

645
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:31.519
but I took some screenshots of the
interrogation so that I could show you the

646
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:37.280
behavior that is being listed as something
worth notetaking. And then I'm going to

647
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.000
put a picture of Dakota Tario doing
it. And it's so captain obvious,

648
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.159
but if you are under a lot
of pressure and you're being interrogated, and

649
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:45.920
you're trying to do self preservation and
you don't want anyone to know what you've

650
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.039
done. Then you're just trying to
self soothe and think your way through this

651
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.960
puzzle. And the other persons all
they gotta do is ask the questions and

652
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:57.360
watch you, you know, and
document it. So Detective Bowden starts really

653
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.599
personable, right, real, general, hey man, what's your name?

654
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:02.360
How how old are you? How
you doing? They treating you all right

655
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.760
back there Now, I'm gonna tell
you right now to take the bound didn't

656
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.280
give a shit how they're treating him
back there. Okay, we don't care

657
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.400
if you're happy, sad, mad, glad. We're just trying. He's

658
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:15.159
just trying to build some rapport with
him, okay, to make it personable.

659
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:22.519
And for the first twenty six minutes
of that interrogation, Dacoda Terio doesn't

660
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:29.639
say anything. The only thing that
Dakota Terrio says on a few separate occasions

661
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.000
is say, brook, I get
a cigarette. That is what he was

662
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.880
worried about during this interrogation. Now, if you're a smoker, you might

663
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:38.880
be like, oh, yeah,
I need a cigarette. If I'm under

664
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:42.119
a bunch of stress, right,
I need to smoke a cigarette. Well,

665
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:44.440
that's a tool too, we're not
going to give it to you.

666
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:46.880
Kind Of think about a baby with
a you know, that's crying and you

667
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:50.960
put that pacifier in. They start
sucking on that pacifier, right, and

668
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.360
it calms him, That soothes them
so you can get them to go to

669
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.239
bed. Well, we don't want
to give him the pacifier. We want

670
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.639
him to be uncomfortable, We want
him to be frustrated, we want him

671
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.880
to be agitated to where he's just
going to come out with that information at

672
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:07.360
some point. So even though he's
not one to talk, that's when Detective

673
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:09.639
Bowden starts, you know, putting
in a little bit more pressure, okay,

674
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.000
being more direct with his questions,
not being so hey man, how

675
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.119
you do in type stuff? It's
more direct. You know, where were

676
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.480
you at this time? We'll tell
me about this. And you immediately see

677
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:28.400
Dakota make a huge shift in his
chair. He actually goes from his feet

678
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:31.800
on the ground to jumping up in
the chair and kind of sitting squatted like

679
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:37.920
a catcher behind a plate. And
Detective Bowden even asks him at some point,

680
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.639
why didn't you kill the two kids
in the house, and Dakota is

681
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:44.239
not really saying anything, but Detective
Bowden pretty much tells him at that time,

682
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:45.800
bro, I'm not here to ask
you if you did it. There's

683
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:50.960
no question you did this, So
please don't think that I'm just trying to

684
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:52.760
ask you. I know you did
it, Bro, I'm just trying to

685
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:57.280
get you to tell me why you
did it. Because people do things for

686
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.440
a reason. What is that reason
other than are you a devil? You

687
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.320
know? So he brings up,
hey man, why didn't you kill those

688
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.079
two kids that were left in the
house talking about Heaven and Christopher? Because

689
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.920
you sure as holl went through and
shot and killed the other people. And

690
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:17.000
that's when Dakota says one thing.
He says, they was just kids.

691
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:22.639
They didn't deserve it, like he's
got some type of moral compass here.

692
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.320
Well, sorry, buddy, I
mean, I'm glad you didn't hurt those

693
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.519
children, thank god. But Tanner
was just a kid too. He was

694
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:35.440
seventeen years old. In my opinion, Summer was just a kid. She

695
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.159
was twenty years old. And even
if they weren't kids and they're adults,

696
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:44.320
Billy let you in his house to
live because you had nowhere else to go.

697
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:46.840
So don't come at me, and
I know this is my opinion,

698
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:50.519
but don't come at me with like
you have some type of moral compass here,

699
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:54.079
because you don't. But that's why
I'm not an interrogator and Detective Valden

700
00:50:54.280 --> 00:51:00.199
is because he then reaches over and
says, man, and thank you for

701
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.639
that. I want I want to
tell you, thank you, thank you

702
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.079
for not hurting those kids. You're
right, they didn't deserve it. They's

703
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.039
just babies, right. I'm gonna
tell you the reason I think he didn't

704
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.639
kill those kids is because he didn't
think that they would play any role in

705
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:16.960
this murder. But the joke was
absolutely on him because guess who went and

706
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:22.039
said it was Sissy's friend that did
this. Heaven. She's the one who

707
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.119
said it in the in the nine
one one tape. So Heaven called you

708
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:30.320
out on it, buddy, and
I'm glad that she did. Kudos to

709
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:32.800
little Heaven. Right, So we
moved forward, and we're about twenty six

710
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:38.800
to fifty minutes into this interrogation and
Baldness continuing to kind of throw more questions

711
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:45.719
at him and pressure continues to mount, but he's not saying anything. He

712
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.000
literally this is so frustrating. I
would have wanted to go straight Beth Dutton

713
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.440
on this dude comes swinging over that
fence and just beat the hell out of

714
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.719
him because he just won't say anything. And if you're bad enough to murder

715
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.840
five people, you ought to be
bad enough to own it and accept it.

716
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.880
But he won't say anything. What
he does start doing, though,

717
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.840
is remember how I said grooming behaviors. He does start scratching his head a

718
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:13.559
lot. So what Detective Bowden had
been asking him about that was making him

719
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:17.079
move up into that chair and move
and start scratching. It wasn't that he

720
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.639
murdered five people. It wasn't that
he shot his mom in the face,

721
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.960
it wasn't that he killed his supposed
quote unquote girlfriend. No, it's because

722
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.559
he was started asking about his grandmother
Peggy, and that started making him kind

723
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:35.559
of tick. Okay, sod understands
that. He picks up on that,

724
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:37.719
and so he keeps on with it, right, bringing in more information,

725
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.119
you know, more questions and more
questions. You know, why are you

726
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.840
going to see your grandma? Why
are you going to see Peggy? Right?

727
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.480
The quota does speak up though,
at the around the fifty minute mark

728
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.280
between the twenty six and fifty minute
mark, and he does ask for a

729
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:55.440
cigarette again, say bruh, I
can get a cigarette, and Bowden tells

730
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.159
him, yeah, man, we're
gonna get to that in just a minute.

731
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:00.320
Okay, I'll get you that cigarette
as soon as we get done here.

732
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:02.719
Just hang in there, but the
whole time knowing we're just trying to

733
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:07.519
build that pressure and make you uncomfortable. From the fifty minute mark to the

734
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:13.400
fifty eight minute mark, so almost
one hour in, Detective Balden continues to

735
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.360
say, man, are you sorry? Just give me that. Are you

736
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.719
sorry for what you did? What
you did anything? Are you sorry?

737
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.960
Do you have remorse for what happened? If you're not going to talk to

738
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.159
me, tell me why you did
it. There's got to be a reason

739
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:29.599
for you to kill five people.
Are you sorry for what you did?

740
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.119
Y'all? If he asks it once, he asks it twenty five times?

741
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:37.119
Are you sorry? Dakota continues to
say nothing. He just kind of nonchalantly

742
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.519
just kind of looks at him and
moves about in the chair. But about

743
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:44.639
that fifty eight minute mark, Dakota
does something behaviorally. He sits down on

744
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.920
his butt in the chair, and
he leans in with his hands kind of

745
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:52.559
in his lap, but he leans
in and he makes direct eye contact with

746
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:57.480
Balden, but he doesn't break it. He just stares at him. But

747
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:02.239
it's it's not like a defiant stare. It's almost like a processing stare.

748
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:07.000
And so I did talk to Detective
Bowden about what that behavior would mean to

749
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.719
him, and he said, well, it can be a lot of things,

750
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:15.159
but in this instance, it means
he's listening because he made the direct

751
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.320
eye contact. If you're not listening, you're not really looking at somebody right,

752
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:21.760
kind of staring off or kind of
dozing out, or of not paying

753
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:23.559
attention. But he said he was
listening to me. Now, does that

754
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:28.039
mean that he's trying to formulate a
fake answer, maybe, but he's at

755
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.480
least listening. So about an hour
in he does have his attention. He's

756
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:36.360
not fidgeting with his fingers or swirling
in his chair. He's leaned in and

757
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:42.159
connected eye contact, listening to Detective
Bowden. By the fifty eight minute mark,

758
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:46.679
he does actually say something else,
and he says, say, because

759
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:54.320
can I get a cigarette? Murdered
five people and so far the only thing

760
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:59.400
he wants to say is pretty much. Do you have a cigarette? He

761
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.559
continue to take the Bowden continues longer, are you sorry? Tell me that,

762
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:07.760
just give me something? Are you
sorry? And Dakota is still silent,

763
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.480
but he makes another body gesture at
this point at the one hour mark

764
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:15.159
that's telling. He kind of shrugs
his shoulders up and remember his handcuffed,

765
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:19.960
but when he shrugs, his palms
come up like I don't know, kind

766
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.559
of like I don't know movement,
but his palms are up, but they're

767
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:30.440
open, okay. And that when
someone opens their hands and kind of goes

768
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:35.079
up like that, that's indicative in
terms of body language that they're holding something

769
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.800
back but that they want to say
something. But then he drops his hands

770
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:42.920
back, but Balden still picks up
on it that he's starting to he's starting

771
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.000
to break him because his body language
is changing. Now he's got palms up

772
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:49.400
and open. If he didn't want
to say anything, it'd be palms closed,

773
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.079
fists in, you know, making
you know, movements to kind of

774
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:57.239
protect himself from Balden. He only
asks one thing again at this point,

775
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:01.519
and he does ask again can he
have a pack of cigarettes? And Bowden

776
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:04.719
says, brou I'll get you those
cigarettes. I just need you to talk

777
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.320
to me, and he's like,
it doesn't feel like it. I'm gonna

778
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:08.400
get you a cigarette, man,
just I need you to talk to me.

779
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.360
One hour and twenty seven minutes into
the interview, now, Detective Bowden

780
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:19.400
says this to him, So,
you shot Billy? What was Tanner doing

781
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:23.679
when you shot Billy? Dakota still
doesn't say anything, but then in a

782
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:29.599
creepy, creepy fashion, he's actually
up now on his feet again in the

783
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.159
chair. He's popped back up kind
of squatting. He takes his handcuff finger

784
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:37.119
hands, he takes his two pointer
fingers, and he grabs his mouth and

785
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.320
he pulls it up into a smile, kind of like the Joker. And

786
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:45.000
Detective Bowden says, so what happened? And Dakota is still silent, but

787
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:52.360
he goes and snaps his fingers,
but he won't say anything. So Detective

788
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.320
Bowden asks him, what about summer? What was Summer doing when you were

789
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:59.639
shooting? And again he pulls his
hands up, takes his fingers, puts

790
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:05.119
it into a smile, and then
he goes and snaps again, like to

791
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:10.079
just nonchalantly say they were smiling at
me and so boom, I just popped

792
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:17.119
him, ended their life. So
Bowden's getting somewhere with him. He continues

793
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:23.039
to hammer him with the questions and
at the one minute excuse me. At

794
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:28.760
the one hour and thirty one minute
mark, all of a sudden, the

795
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:36.119
coda snaps. He jumps up,
and he jumps into a full on confession.

796
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.840
Now, I'm going to play that
confession for you right now. I

797
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:45.920
hope you speak thug one oh one, because he does speak kind of thug.

798
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:49.840
You know what I'm saying, Son. You know what I'm saying,

799
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:53.079
son, because talking like that,
okay, But I want you to listen

800
00:57:53.880 --> 00:58:00.679
to what he says in this audio
and how callously he talks about snuffing out

801
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:06.719
the life of five people. We
shid really do that night that they fucking

802
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:08.800
up. They think they fucked me
while I was sleeping. But after they

803
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:13.159
did that, I said fucking I
stayed away and she just kept on like

804
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.199
you know what I'm saying, Man, I kept going bag and walking in

805
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.559
the bed with it, and so
I got up in the morning while we

806
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.639
went to the stool. We got
a pack of serial by the time I

807
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:22.559
came back. But the nigga smiled
in my face. When he smiled my

808
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.440
face like how I fucked you?
I boxed him in the bag of the

809
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.000
head. I walked in the back
of the fucking three. I walked to

810
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:30.880
the back. Tandor looked at me, but he went to smile like damn.

811
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:34.719
I couldn't believe they actually that he
actually did it. I popped him

812
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.920
in the head and then somebody looked
at me. His smile popped up and

813
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:39.280
walked back in the rooms, and
I grabbed me in the keys and I

814
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:43.599
walked around something look. I looked
at the little big I waited for the

815
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:45.599
be able to move around the way
I wouldn't you got blood on him anything

816
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.039
like that. And when you can
get a big good kids about walked clean

817
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:52.400
out to go with the kids went
down the road her every sing cause I

818
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:53.679
went to my people, and I
was waiting to my people. Was in

819
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:57.079
the you know what I'm saying With
the mother people, I was like keeping

820
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:01.000
their dosing. I probably my I
probed my mom or daddy first. I

821
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:08.559
did there two shots. So how
do you feel about that? How do

822
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:15.679
you feel about that? Imagine being
the family of these people. Actually,

823
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:17.239
I do know this for a fact, a lot of their family members are

824
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:21.039
actually listening to this. And that's
why I want to do so much justice

825
00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:24.760
for this for these victims, because
if you you know, I understand that

826
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:28.920
people have to forgive so that they
can go on with their lives. And

827
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.079
I understand that forgiveness is for you
and it's not for the other person.

828
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:35.480
But this is one of those times
when I don't want to forgive you.

829
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.960
It's like I want you to get
what you did to other people. It

830
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:44.880
makes me sick. Just popped him, Just popped him, you know what

831
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:46.920
I'm saying, And then did what
about what he said about his parents.

832
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:51.559
I walked in, kicked the door
in, I shot my dad in the

833
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:52.440
face. I looked at my mom, I said I love you, mom,

834
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:59.840
and then popped her. What What
in the absolute fuck? Like,

835
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:04.880
what in the world? This is
what's walking amongst us in society. But

836
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.719
there's still a faction of people who
feel sorry from them because they had a

837
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:10.559
bad childhood. I can't tell you
how many videos I've seen where people try

838
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:15.199
him justify this type of behavior.
No, how about No, you had

839
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.840
a family who tried to help you, and you murdered all of them,

840
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.280
and they did nothing to you but
try to help you, and then you

841
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:24.920
go work out your sick fantasy you've
been thinking about since you were seventeen years

842
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:30.440
old talking to a state trooper in
a waffle house who bought you dinner,

843
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:32.159
and you literally did what you said
you were gonna do. You took a

844
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:36.679
gun and you went and you killed
him. And it's a gun you stole

845
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:42.239
from your father. You killed him
with his own gun. Sick, absolutely,

846
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:45.559
sick, completely and totally unacceptable.
Remember how I told you detected?

847
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:51.400
Bowden asked multiple times, multiple times, are you sorry for what you did?

848
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.440
Are you sorry for what you're did? I mean, even a ten

849
01:00:54.519 --> 01:01:00.039
year old is smart enough to fake
sorry if they're sorry right when I'm my

850
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:00.960
kids are fighting and I'll be like, tell her you're sorry. Sorry,

851
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.519
right. They don't mean it,
but they at least try to fake that

852
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.840
they mean it. I want you
to listen to this prick answer that question

853
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:15.000
now in this snippet from the investigation. And I know I know he's he's

854
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:20.400
hard to understand sometimes, but listen
to his answer. No, I wish

855
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.880
you everything would a wait different way. The fucking win brother, But I'm

856
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.280
not sorry. I'm sorry that it
happened how I played out, but no

857
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:31.119
I'm not. I don't apologize for
the foot taking people off, like doing

858
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:35.159
something like that, but all of
the twitter bro said that she had a

859
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:38.840
rooty sometimes like I'm never fucking were
for doing that. Somebody to do that

860
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:43.599
some no what too well, So
if you couldn't understand what he was saying,

861
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.559
I'll sum it up for you.
No, I'm not sorry. I

862
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:50.360
ain't sorry. I'm sorry how it
went down, but I ain't sorry for

863
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:55.400
snuffing people out. Basically, I'm
not sorry. And do you know,

864
01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.480
he gives a reason of why he
did it, and I'm going to have

865
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:06.559
to end today on this, but
there's still more. He decides to tell

866
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:15.159
Detective Bowden that the reason he murdered
all five of those people was because Billy,

867
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:22.440
the Jesus loving, church going proud
father of five, hardworking, tax

868
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:29.239
paying gospel singing to his grandmother on
the porch, opening his doors to complete

869
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:34.000
strangers to put a roof over their
head, that Billy. He claims that

870
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:39.559
Billy was raping him in his sleep. He was raping him, and that's

871
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:44.800
why he went and murdered all those
people. Because Dakota Terrio was being raped

872
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:47.599
in his sleep. I know right
now, you're like throwing your hands up

873
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.599
like what because I'm not trying to
be, you know, crude or anything.

874
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:53.360
But I guarante m t you.
If you're raping me in my butt

875
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:59.639
hole while I'm asleep, I'm gonna
wake up nobody. That ain't why.

876
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.559
That's you trying to make up some
shit. And you know that sex is

877
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:07.280
a huge thing in society that you
don't violate people sexually, and so you

878
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:09.280
try to come up with that and
even if it was true, which it's

879
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:13.480
not, is absolutely not true.
But if it was true, then why

880
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:15.519
did you kill Tanner? Why did
you kill Summer? Why did you jump

881
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.400
in a car and drive and go
kill your own mother and your own father

882
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:22.920
and then jump in a car and
drive fourteen hours to your grandmother? What

883
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:28.280
were you going to do? Then
it doesn't make sense. It's not true,

884
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:31.840
and you're nothing but a liar.
I'm gonna I'm gonna have to stop

885
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:35.960
here, y'all, but there's there's
still a bunch more and there's some screwed

886
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.719
up stuff that I'm gonna come back
and tell y'all that you're gonna it's gonna

887
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:43.159
blow your mind. You're not gonna
believe this, Okay, But we're gonna

888
01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:45.679
talk a little bit about his mental
health and some other things on the next

889
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.360
episode. So hang in there,
keep checking my Facebook. I want y'all

890
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:52.360
to go see I'm gonna be posting
some of the stuff I talked about in

891
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:57.719
today's episode, but there's still more
to come. And if anything, you

892
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:00.920
know, I don't have anything really
nice to say about Dakoda Tarry. All

893
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:04.239
I can say about him is that
sometimes I think that the only purpose in

894
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.920
life some people have is to serve
as a warning to others.