Ask me Anything 2024

0:06 Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering how is this even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's kJ here and I am back for the very first episode of twenty twenty five. What is going on? I am feeling completely refreshed, rejuvenated. I've had a wonderful break.

1:13 I know that Christmas is passed by the time you're listening to this, but at the time of this recording, we're fresh out of Christmas and I had the best time. This was probably my favorite one in recent history. The family, it was all there, the kids, there was presence everywhere, in chaos and screaming, and Santa came and what more could you ask for? I hope that you had a fantastic endo twenty twenty four and I know that we're all going to go barreling into twenty twenty five, whether it's ready for us or not. Now, I had told y'all that I was going to do and ask me anything episode, and so this is going to be that episode. And I got some really really good questions, some things that kind of made me think, you know, that weren't just basic you know, Q and A. There was some things that made me think. But before I start those specific questions, I wanted to tell y'all a story. And I think it's a really good story coming into the beginning of a year, and you know, you always want to start out on a right foot. So y'all know, I'm here in Denham Springs, Louisiana, and we had a I guess you'd call it a community tragedy. I think anytime that something of this magnitude happens, it's the community's tragedy as well as the families. But we had a little baby boy that was being shared all over Facebook that had been tragically killed in an accident on his family's property. And so I'm not going to go into the details of it because that's for the family to share, not for me. However, I can just tell you that as a mother, the story just touched my heart in

2:45 ways that I can't even describe. You know, I've got a heart for strangers. I've always had a heart for strangers and people that I don't know, and this one hurt. Okay, this baby boy's name was Bowen, and he was three years old, and like I said, he was tragically killed on their family property. Now, normally I wouldn't share what I'm about to share with you, but because of the story i'm going to tell you, I have to share it with you. But know that this was sent in complete confidence, and that I had no intentions of sharing this, and this is not a self gratification moment by me sharing this with you. But I was sitting there. It was, I believe, the night before Christmas, and I was rapping presents and I was thinking about the holidays, and I had some music going, and this mama was just on my heart and her baby boy, and I could just imagine, or actually I couldn't imagine, but I could just think about what were they going through in their household in that moment, and what must it feel like? And I don't ever want to know but I just felt compelled that I had to write her a note. And I don't know her. I've never met her. Still to this day, i've never met her. But this story's going somewhere, okay, So hang in there. So I sent her this private message.

3:56 This was at eleven forty six am the morning that I sentate, and I said her name, I said, we are strangers, we've never met, but my heart and my prayers are all for you in this moment. I know nothing of the pain that you're feeling, nor why you're feeling it. However, I know our God will never leave you. I pray he meets you wherever you are and breathes life into your soul when you can't do it for yourself. I pray he covers your husband and child here on earth as he holds your angel son in his arms. In these moments. These words may fall flat in the face of such enormous, unimaginable, unfair, and devastating events, but I do hope that they land somewhere soft for you.

4:37 I'm crying in my living room right now, knowing that you will never be the same. I hope, in the days and weeks to come, in your new normal that you find comfort in that you never have to move on. We just have to move forward with all the love and respect a stranger can offer. Kelly Jennings and I've hit scent or send and and I meant every word of it that I'm just praying for her. So I thought about the baby boy all day long. I thought about it. I just couldn't shake it. Well, that night, you're not gonna believe this. That night, I'd say it was probably eight nine o'clock at night. I was outside doing a few things and my child said, hey, look a dog, And so normally i'd be I would just say, okay, cool, But it's Christmas, you know, and I didn't want someone's dog that was running away to get hit by a car.

5:31 That would be terrible. That'd be tragic, right, especially on Christmas. So I went outside and I saw the dog go running by, and so I started calling and whistling and whistling for the animal. And she didn't turn around. She didn't even really acknowledge me until she came to the corner and she looked at me, and then she ran straight for the highway. And so I probably should have given up, but I didn't, and I kept whistling, and I kept calling and calling and calling. The dog was gone. I couldn't see her anymore, but I just kept whistling and kept calling, and as I came to the end of the road, I'll be dang if that dog's head didn't pop back out from behind the vehicle of whomever's house we were in front of. And so I kept trying to call her over, and you could tell she wanted to come to me so bad. She would cower down and then she'd run away, and then she'd come close her and she'd run away, And so I got low, low, low, and I finally ended up down like on my knees and just talking sweet and coaxing her over until finally she came and I grabbed her by the collar. And I was so ecstatic that I caught this dog, because the highway she would have been smoked. Okay, there's cars everywhere.

6:28 So I walked her back to my house, super sweet dog, and I posted her online and I said, hey, is anybody missing a dog? If so, let me know. And I can tell that this is no cheap, old little you know, you know, gutter dog running around. This was a very expensive hunting dog. Its ear was stamped at the inside with a serial number and a beautiful dog. And I'm like, someone's missing it. And the collar had died. Apparently it had a electric fence that it was in and the collar died. Anyway, Well, just a few minutes later, I get a message from a neighbor of mine and he said, Hey, I know whose dog that is. They're missing the dog. They're looking for the pup. And I said, okay, well just tell him come to the house and I'll give him the dog. So some other stuff happened. Long story short, this young man shows up at my house and so I go to hand him the dog. And when I give him the dog, you'll never guess what he said. He said that he was watching the dog for his brother, who had just tragically lost his son in an accident. Y'all, the very dog that I was holding in my hand and had stopped from running into the highway was that baby boy's very dog. It was his.

7:44 And out of anywhere in Denham Springs, Louisiana and anywhere that that dog could have gone, what are the chances of it running past my house? I don't know how you receive this. I don't know your thoughts or your beliefs, but I know what my belief you are. And if that wasn't a godwink to me, I don't know if there ever will be one as strong. And it just felt like, you know, I was being told that he was okay, little man was okay, and don't worry not. It probably wasn't even my business, but I just felt that so strongly, and they were able to take their pup home and have their pup home for Christmas, and so that just meant a lot to me, and I wanted to share it with you because it's something that happened in my life. And considering this is to ask me anything, how about I just turned it into I'll tell you anything. So I hope you enjoy that story, and I hope you know I'm going to take that into twenty twenty five with me because it meant a lot to me. So starting out though, with these questions of these ask me anythings, the first one I got was from Samantha Mancuso. So Samantha, thank you for asking your questions. And her question was, have you ever turned down a true crime story? And my gut instinct. The first thing I want to say was no, I mean, I'm not going to turn down the story. I mean, if there's a story to be told, I'd love to tell it. But there is kind of a caveat to I guess which stories I pick and choose, because I do really like ones that have been adjudicated or ones that have already been through the court process. And there's a reason for that. The reason I pick those cases is because having worked in law enforcement, having dealt with

9:20 I guess instances in life where I have learned that there are three sides to every story, his hers, and then the truth is somewhere in the middle. And so I know that in media, typical traditional media, people like to just jump on hot stories or jump on big stories because that's what's gonna get downloads or that's what's gonna grab people's attention because it's all over the news. But I don't like half asked truths. I like full truths. I like all of the information. How did this investigation go, how did they get where they were? Why are we pointing the finger here? And so, no, there's not a story I've turned down. There's ones though that if I feel like there's just not enough information that I'm not gonna cover for it yet because I want all the information so that I can make an educated decision on how I feel this went or why it went the way that it did. I feel an obligation to you, the listener, to be as accurate as possible. And part of this is that the investigation matters to me. I want to know all of it, you know, I don't want a one sided, one sided display of information. I want all of the information. And I'm actually going to do an episode this season that is prime example of why I think the way that I do and why I pick the cases the way that I do. The other cases that I haven't been doing. But you know, Jimithy and I have been talking, and I think I am going to take a lot more of these on, especially when I have more time. Is I haven't really been taking on unsolved cases. Those are so frustrating to

10:50 me personally, just like they are everybody else, because when I tell you the story, I want to have the whole story, and I don't have it. But hey, with an audience like you, and with good people listening and people who are vested in the goodness of society and bringing these people home if they're missing or or solving you the cases, I feel like, you know, this is something I need to take on, and so that is something in the future that I'm going to start focusing a lot one as well. Are these unsolved cases because we the people can probably solve them. Sometimes people have little tidbits of information they don't even realize it's important until it's brought to their attention. So I hope that answered your question, Samantha, and thank you so much for asking. I did get one from someone that sent it private, so I'm not going to put a name out there, but it said, how do you find all of the information on these cases? Because you always seem to have more information than anyone else. Well, I can tell you this, and I probably am speaking for every podcaster in America right now. For every hour of podcasting you hear me do, I can assure you there's at least seven to eight hours, if not more, of research and time and develop put in to these cases. I usually consult court documents first.

12:06 If I know people involved in the case, I consult with those people. If I have questions about how something may have gone down. I'll go call experts that are friends of mine and ask them their opinions. But I research the hell out of this. I go everywhere that I can, I speak to anyone that I can, and I spend a lot, a lot of time invested in looking these up and making sure too that the information I get is from a reasonably maybe reasonably is not the word, but a site or a source that the majority of us would accept as usually truthful or with no dog in the fight, if that makes sense to you.

12:47 So to tell you where do I or how do I find all this information, I'm gonna tell you it's grit, it's time and its effort. That's where it's at. And doing a whole bunch of weird sleuthing online and connecting the dots, and I mean I go from obituaity. I've even looked at some census information before to try to figure out, you know, dots connected, and I read books. I look up articles that are written by you know, academics, and so that's where it comes from everywhere. I don't have an answer specifically, but it comes from everywhere, and there's a whole lot of time put into it. I can tell you my average episode in Jim makes fun of me for this sometimes he's in here listening mom recording, But my average episode has about eighteen to twenty pages of notes written, if that'll tell you anything on how much I put into these. So thank you so much for your question. Another one I got was, how are you so damn funny or is it off the cuff? Well, I don't think I mean to be funny. I think sometimes I'm actually an asshole and it comes off it comes off as funny. I've always been just kind of a goober. Things are funny to me, and I say stupid shit and it comes across as funny. I'm telling you it's not on purpose. I don't I don't pre plan the stuff I say. Majority of it is off the cuf when I write and I'm thinking. When I'm writing the episodes, I write just like a conversation. If you looked at my notes, it's literally like when I'm having a conversation. So most of it's off the cuff.

14:11 When people laugh and they message me and say, I can't believe you said that, well neither, you're just a shocked as I am. Right, Jim, say something to the people, you're id here, He's laughing. Yeah, you're just as shocked as I am sometimes about what comes out of my mouth. It's natural. I would say the trauma of my life has developed me into the moron I am today. Can I get an amen on that? The next one was how do you choose your cases? Well, it's a combination of things that interest me and catch my attention, as well as cases that I've personally researched to the nth degree. When I'm teaching in class, there's a lot of cases I cover that mean a lot to me because of the way they went down and how the justice system played out in those cases. Jimothy gives me cases sometimes he's like you're doing this. When I'm like, no, I'm not, He's like, yes, you are, and it turns out to be a bang up episode. So I'd say it's a teamwork approach, it's an interest approach, and it's kind of also a suggestion approach. When people ask me, hey, will you do this case? I always look into them. I always do if if you think I'm just saying sure it, I don't mean it one hundred percent. I have this little calendar that I carry with me. It's like my life.

15:18 And one of my tabs is potential episodes. And when people message me and ask me, I write them down and I go and I look so all over the place. I get them from all over the place. And thank you to everyone who always offers up suggestions. Sometimes y'all are the difference. Let's see Ella Arena, Hey, Ella, what a cute name? Or is Arena? Either way? Ella? You cute? Okay. You had a couple of questions. So her first one was which true crime story has affected you emotionally the most? And she said, I think I already know, and she put Casey Anthony. So you know what, I think I'd have to agree with her in one respect. In that Casey Anthony, that case really bothered me. It bothered me from the start of it. It made me angry from the get go, the massive amount of lies and a child at center of it. You know, kids are off limits to me always, but that one affected me really harshly.

16:13 I can tell you that cases recently in my personal life. I say recently, I guess in my recent history, there's been people that I considered my good friends, people that I would have given my life for and I would have believed to the ends of the earth that I thought were good people, and they turned out to be the very devil that I talk about in a lot of my episodes, and the shock behind that has been life changing. I'm gonna do an episode on the one I'm talking about, so I'm not gonna give the name right now. You'll know it when I do it. It's coming this year. But I had a very good friend of mine who turned out to be an absolute wolf in sheep clothing, a liar about everything that was ever said to me. I believe was a lie. I feel like I was a pawn in his game. And I now, and I'm sorry this is kind of slow the way, but this is not scripted in any way, But I now find myself not being as open to friendship as I used to be. I've got trust issues. I guess I'm being super honest right now too, if you're listening to this, But I've got trust issues now, even with people that I know, and I know that I know them, I still find myself kind of cocking my head to

17:44 the side and wondering, I wonder if you're really you, you know, I wonder if you're really who you say you are. I wonder if you're looking me in the eye. And everything you've ever said to me was an absolute lie, and you turned out to be an absolute horrific human being who was sentenced to the rest of your life in prison. That case, which I haven't named, that one has affected me tremendously, and that will be one that I'll do this season, and I'll open you up a little bit into my personal world and what it's like to be friends with an with the monster that your your mother and your father have always warned you about. So there's that one. She also said, how do I know Jimothy? Okay, so this one's a multi part of story.

18:27 I obviously at one point didn't know Jimothy, And hey, you want to come in on this one. Here, let me get Jim and Mike and we'll we'll talk on this one together. Okay. So, like I said, I didn't script this, so I had to get Jim over here in a headset. So how did I meet Jim? So obviously we didn't know each other at one point, No, we didn't. We were strangers, wengers, And I was sitting in a dentist chair getting a tooth fixed my first root canal ever. Actually, and I had just started listening to Real Life, Real Crime because people were telling me it was local and I wanted to know more about it, which was obviously Woody Overton, and so I started listening to it and I just was stoked from the start.

19:12 I really was like, Oh my god, I know these people he's talking about. I know the areas that he's talking about. And I wrote him and was said, Hey, I'd love to have you come in and talk to my students and my criminal justice class Lati Da. We ended up hooking up together and coming into my classroom. He came and talked to the students and it just turned out to be awesome. Well then you want to pick it up from there. Well orright? I left too much out. So during all the. I guess I was hosting another podcast that I still have to this day called Local Leaders. I was looking for someone to come in and help me sell stuff at advertising specifically because I'm you know, I was trying to make money, right, and so so I put something out there on Facebook and this particular podcast that I host we promote small local family and businesses kind of tell their whole story of how they got into doing whatever it is and they do, and locally it's a pretty popular podcast. So I put it out there and Kelly responds, and I'll never forget her whole response.

20:22 Was, I can sell shit. Okay, So it was I believe summertime was coming out, and that's why I did it because I get bored in this summer and I wanted something to do. So I was like, I can sell shit, let's do it. So I actually recognized Kelly's name because of her affiliation with Real Life for a crime and she had had would he come in and do some things with her school? And somehow I recognized the name. It might have been that way, and so I said, sure, come in, we'll talk, and uh, I'll tell you how how I sell these ads. So she came in. Long story short, she was going to sell that ads for me. But you don't have to know Kelly more than about I don't know five minutes before you figure out she's hilarious. And so the whole time she's trying to sell ads, I'm trying to figure out a way to get her to podcast, because I'm like, man, this girl could really podcast good. So I started talking to Kelly about it. Look y'all, she was totally against podcasting in any way, shape or form.

21:25 So I said, why why, you have a great personality, you have a good voice. Why would you not want to do this? You have all the experience with her background, and you know, corrections and all those sorts of things. And she says, I ain't letting anybody know, and then they're going to come at me. And she goes on this tangent like she had this life I knew nothing about this. Was My whole hang up was that I'm very opinionated, as everyone can tell. I feel strongly about these cases and these situations, and I take them very seriously. And so I said, ain't no way in hell I'm getting behind a microphone and given my thoughts in a case. And then I don't have to fight everybody in America? Would they come after me? And I just don't feel like fighting with anybody, right.

22:07 So eventually, after working on Kelly for quite a while, I got her to do, like I said, just do one just. Well, Actually, first, didn't I talk with Didn't I come on Woodies for like a snippet? I can't think, Yeah, maybe I think you're right. So backing up, what actually happened. Was we were doing Bloody and Gola at this time. We still do Bloody and Gola, and Kelly came on and was talking about her time in corrections at Louisiana State Penitentiary and Goland, all the things she experienced, and I think she got kind of a bug. I can't speak for, but I think the bug, the podcast bug, might have bit her a little bit. She kind of had too much fun and the next thing, you know, you recorded episode one of year podcast. And we never even agreed when she I don't know if she remembers us, but when she recorded the very first up, I said, we didn't even have an agreement we were going to put it out there. It was basically like, Okay, I'll record it, but that's all I'm gonna do. And it was so good and you can still go back and listen to that first one that somehow I convinced her at being the world's best salesman. I convinced her to actually go for it and do her own podcasts, and.

23:23 The rest is history, which is crazy. And that's why when I'm so serious when I tell people take risks take risks, and yeah I did. I poo pooed this for a long time until finally said, all right, I'll come in and I'll try it. And then I realized it's just storytelling. It's the art of talking about the things that you love so much. And so Jim's guided me ever since then and given me tips and tricks and all those things. And so that's how we literally came to know one another. It was just kind of like passing in the wind. And yeah, you know, I'll leave y'all with this and then I'll let Kelly get back to her podcast. But one interesting thing about it is when we started this, I believed in her so much. Now y'all have to remember, I'm a business and I know a lot of you can't see where we record out of, but this is a legit studio, like.

24:16 It costs money. Now we're in a nice studio and this is where we record. And of course I got to pay all these bills. But with Kelly, I've cut a deal with her and I said, look, we'll just do it. I believed in her. So much that I knew eventually it would pay all for both of us, and fortunately it has. But I never had a doubt because when that first episode was done, the hardest part of podcasting I knew she had, and that was the ability to tell a story with the knowledge to back up what she was saying. And so then it was all about promotion and just getting it out there. And there was a lot of things we did along the way to do that, but yeah, that's how it was born.

24:59 And now it's a brother sister relationship in every way. Shape or form. She cusses me out more than people. But it's from the heart. Timothy and Jimothy came about because I was fussing at him and I didn't want to just say jim Yeah, and I can't call him James because his wife does that. I mean, I you know, I needed something different, and so I was like Jimothy. And it was because remember Grace, Nancy Grace had a producer named Timothy. She used to yell at all the time. If you ever remember Nancy Grace from way back in the day. She still has a show, but way back in the day. She had a producer named Timothy and she would yell at him all the time, Timothy, get me this news report.

25:44 And that's kind of Also, how Jimothy. If you're listening, Nancy, thank you for all of your g I'm sure I'm sure you're listening to me. So Ella, thank you so much for that question. That is how I met the all American man that he is. Jimothy Chapman. All right, Oh, and you had one more question, Ellen, girl, you had a bunch. You should have just called me. We could have talked it out. Now I'm playing how many kids do you have? So I will tell you I have three children, and I am fiercely protective of them. So I'm sure you'll understand that I'm not going into a great deal of detail on them, but i will let you know I have three girls. I am very proud of them, and they are the reason I do everything that I do. Everything I do is to make sure that they grow up to be strong women that are successful and can take care of themselves. So, yeah, I have three kids, and I got a billion animals at home, and I got a cute little husband that I just think, you know is the cat's mew. So I got a lot going on in my life and a lot to look forward to when I go home in the in the evenings. So thank you for your questions, Elle, I really appreciate that. Then I've got Mikayla Alvarez. She asked me, what do your kids think about your podcast and how big it's gotten. Well, I can tell you that they think it's cool that I have T shirts with my name on them. I'm wearing one right now.

27:08 If you're watching me podcast, it's all sparkly. They real they get frustrated with me. You want me to tell the truth, it's they get frustrated with me because I work twenty four to seven. I'm researching, or I'm on a computer or you know, we still do our family time, but they do get frustrated with me about it because they say it's it's a lot of work. And I'm like, yep, but I'm hoping I'm setting a good example for them that hard work will pay off. But you have to have grit and you have to be willing to put in the time. Nothing will happen if you don't do anything. So I kind of think that's where they're at. And then MICHAELA said, do they tell their friends that their mom is famous? Y'all, My kids don't think anything about me like that. They think that I'm annoying, embarrassing, and tough.

27:54 I can tell you that my kids do think that I'm a tough cookie, but nope, I don't think they do. I think that they have no clue. A matter of fact, one of my children gave my phone number out at her uh, at her school, and that's been interesting ever since because I'm now in a text message chain with I'll make up a name, my daughter's name. We'll just say her name's Michelle. It's not. But I'm in a text chain now with Michelle's baddies, you know. And all of these batties are in elementary school, by the way, so I have some really baddy conversations going on, if you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, we might have to might have to fix that not sharing my number. All right. The next question I got this is another private one. What story has had the biggest impact on your life or made changes in your personal life? Or have you made changes in your personal life because of a story That is one hundred percent a yes, uh.

28:46 Because of my career, because of my time in prison, working there and dealing with people who have been less than honorable amongst children, and because of all of the stories really that I tell about children. I can say my personal life has changed and that I no longer allow my children to spend the night at anyone's house. Everyone that knows me knows that I am polite about it. It's nothing against anyone out there. My job is just to protect my children, and so we do not do sleepovers at other people's houses. I don't care how long I've known you. I don't care how much I love you. I don't care how great your kids are. My kids will not spend the night at your house. On the flip side, I also am very particular about who I allow to stay at my home as well. I don't like people in my home that I don't know very very very well. And I'm sure you can understand that I'm not trying to come across as rude or anything like that. I'm no better than anybody else. I just feel a strong obligation to protect mine and so we don't spend the night at other people's houses. So, yeah, I know that's kind of not a specific story, but I can tell you I used to have a neighbor one time. This. I didn't tell this story as a but I want to give you an example of this that we liked, we thought was were nice people. Their daughter, the neighbor's daughter, was friends with our very good friend's daughter.

30:10 They allowed their child to go spend the night with my neighbor, and when their child came back home, the child had some complaints, some physical complaints that turned out from what we understand today to not be anything. But I will tell you those neighbors turned out to be complete and total drug addicts that were flying under the radar. The neighbors ended up breaking into my house, stealing all of our power tool equipment and things like that that we had. That neighbor ripped down the fence in the backyard to be sneaky. So we went to work and he ripped down the fence between our homes and he was robbing me basically or burglarizing my home from behind, so no one saw it go down, which was another reason that I don't like people real close up on me anymore. They he pawned a lot of my stuff, And I think if you've listened to my show for any amount of time so far, you know that I get mad real quick, liking in a hurry, and so I took my happy ass up to every pawn shop around here and found a lot of my own stuff too.

31:19 It's pretty proud of that. And that's how we were able to hammer him for all the burglaries and everything, because I went and got my own shit. I'm not going to sit around and wait for somebody else to find it for me, okay. And something about else about that story that really bothered me was the fact that when he did rip down our fence, he let out my twenty something year old docsins that I had. I had three we need dogs at the time that I adored, and one of them ended up eating rotten food that he had dumped out of his refrigerator in his backyard and sold it for dope. I know this is like a total You didn't ask for this, but I'm telling you, and my dogs got so sick that they ended up vomiting to the point of getting brain damage and ended up dying from their illnesses. And so, you know, just trusting people. I don't trust people, and I know that's terrible.

32:06 You shouldn't live your life that way. But there's been a lot of things that have happened. Some of those stories. Again, I will tell in more detail in later episodes, but that's impacted me, and I want to encourage everyone listening that you don't let your children spend the night, young children, small children, don't let them spend the night at other people's houses. Everybody who comes back with a horror story when it's all said and done said, I would have never guessed this, And that's the key. You would never guess it. You would never guess it. So, yeah, kids, we're not spending the night at each other's houses. Number ten question, what made you originally get into law enforcement? Well that was an evolving thing. I can tell you that I've always been interested in the criminal justice system.

32:48 I was obsessed with forensic files when I was a teenager. That was all I watched. And so I was going to school for something else at first in college, and my mom walked in and said, why are you going? Why is this your maid? And I said, I don't know. I don't know what else to do. And she said, well, hell, all you do is watch true crime. Why don't you do something to do with crime? And it was like a light bulb went off. I was a total idiot, you know, a young teenage idiot. And I said, oh, I guess I should do that instead. And so that's kind of where it evolved from. And I just have always had a heart for people that are hurt by others. I want there to be justice in the world, whatever that may mean. And so it just went from there. When I went to college, I met a warden who came in to do a guest talk in one of my truancy classes. That was Warden Fontineau, and she was a we're not at Angola. That's how I got my first job out at Angola, and then that evolved into a law enforcement career in Livingston Parish, and then so on and so forth. So it just was a bunch of things that made me that really inspired me to get into law enforcement. Someone else asked me, when are you going to tell the Derek Todd Lee's story in podcast form? I know you did a live on it that is coming up this year. That's going to be a huge, multi part series. I think a lot of y'all are going to really enjoy it. If you didn't go to the live. If you did go to the live, you're gonna enjoy it still because there's a whole lot of information We had planned on recording that sooner than now, but we just got backed up on some things. But that is coming into production this year. You're gonna get it.

34:14 And then that was a two parter. Then when is your next live again, I'm about to sound really vague. It's coming up. I would really like to get done with my school teaching career. That will wrap up in May. I'll finish seventeen eighteen years of teaching in the classroom this May, and then y'all know I'm going full time. So the live will be after May of twenty twenty five as of right now, unless something should change and we're able to knock one out sooner. So there's the answer to that. Someone else asked me, what is your typical work day? Like, how do you get everything done that you do? Oh? Lord, you ain't never lied. I work my butt off and there's I think no other answer to that. I get up in the mornings, I go to school, I teach my heart out all day long. As soon as that bell rings, take my happy ass home. I jump in front of a computer and I work on my podcast.

35:05 I do that almost seven days a week. I work every day of the week in some fashion. However, I do think family is super important, so we do make our family time. But I do work. I work a lot. My family has a joke and they say, we need to make an appointment with you. Whenever you have a chance. They'll text me that and it makes me feel bad, but I'm busy. I'm sorry, So I just I work hard. I work hard twenty four to seven. I also have three computers. I have a school computer, a home computer, and a laptop, and I work amongst the three computers at all times. One of my friends in real life, my child had a concert, a Christmas concert recently, and before it started, I had my laptop in my lap at the church and I was working on a podcast for you in the church and someone mess up. My friend messaged me from across and said, wow, you're brave because the director of this children's choir don't play. And I said, hey, I got deadlines, I got things I got to do, So that's how I'll get it done.

36:04 A lot of hard work and a lot of time invested. I think I'm going to wrap it up with this last question because it meant something to me, and if this isn't for you, that's fine, But I really liked this question and I was touched that somebody would ask it. The question was you seem to be a Christian woman. Do you have a favorite verse? Well? I do. I have a lot of them I like, but I have one specifically that involves law enforcement and the criminal justice system. I feel like all in one and then also me and you as listeners and as people invested in true crime. I do, and it applies. And there's someone who can actually vouch for me on this. Her name is Ashton Decker. She's a listener. She said that she and her her boyfriend listen to my show, which meant a lot because he's a police officer. She didn't give me his name, but shout out Ashton, and your boyfriend who's a cop.

36:50 Shout out to y'all. But they can vouch for me because I sent something to im talking about this very verse. Okay, but my favorite one is going to be Rome thirteen four, and that says, for he is God's servant for your good, But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God and avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. And I love the way that this is stated because it's true. Good people need someone that can protect them and can and help them in their time of need. I believe that law enforcement are those people. I believe in the good of law enforcement out there, and I think that we as a community need to help one another whenever that might be. And so, you know, be afraid. I hope that the criminals and the bad guys are afraid. Be afraid because God's wrath will be brought down and He's got people on this earth to do it for him. So that's my favorite verse. And I also love it because it's on our badges locally, our local Sheriff's office has thirteen four actually inscribed on the badges, and so it's a reminder that we're here to do the good and we are not afraid. Be not afraid, you know what I'm saying. And so I really appreciate those questions. I think that these were great questions.

38:07 I hope you enjoyed this episode getting to know me a little bit better. If you have more questions, hey send them Tommy. I have no problem answering them for you. Periodically whenever I can, and just be ready because next week's episode is on point, it's one that's in the news, and it's one that you're gonna love. All Right, y'all, take care. I hope you have a happy, happy, happy New Year, and I will catch y'all next time.