Jan. 1, 2025

Ask me Anything 2024

Ask me Anything 2024

In this episode of 'Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings”,  Kelly answers questions sent in by the podcast listeners and shares a new personal story.

Timestamps
01:20 A New Year Begins 
03:07 A Community Tragedy
08:11 A Miraculous...

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Season 6

In this episode of 'Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings”, Kelly answers questions sent in by the podcast listeners and shares a new personal story.

Timestamps
01:20 A New Year Begins
03:07 A Community Tragedy
08:11 A Miraculous Encounter
10:54 Choosing True Crime Stories
14:32 The Humor Behind the Podcast
15:39 Emotional Impact of Cases
18:43 Meeting Jimothy
23:47 The Evolution of Their Partnership
26:51 Parenting and Podcasting
28:33 Lessons from Personal Experience
33:47 Inspiration for Law Enforcement

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's

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kJ here and I am back for the very first

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episode of twenty twenty five. What is going on? I

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am feeling completely refreshed, rejuvenated. I've had a wonderful break.

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I know that Christmas is passed by the time you're

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listening to this, but at the time of this recording,

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we're fresh out of Christmas and I had the best time.

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This was probably my favorite one in recent history. The family,

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it was all there, the kids, there was presence everywhere,

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in chaos and screaming, and Santa came and what more

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could you ask for? I hope that you had a

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fantastic endo twenty twenty four and I know that we're

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all going to go barreling into twenty twenty five, whether

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it's ready for us or not. Now, I had told

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y'all that I was going to do and ask me

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anything episode, and so this is going to be that episode.

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And I got some really really good questions, some things

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that kind of made me think, you know, that weren't

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just basic you know, Q and A. There was some

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things that made me think. But before I start those

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specific questions, I wanted to tell y'all a story. And

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I think it's a really good story coming into the

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beginning of a year, and you know, you always want

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to start out on a right foot. So y'all know,

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I'm here in Denham Springs, Louisiana, and we had a

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I guess you'd call it a community tragedy. I think

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anytime that something of this magnitude happens, it's the community's

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tragedy as well as the families. But we had a

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little baby boy that was being shared all over Facebook

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that had been tragically killed in an accident on his

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family's property. And so I'm not going to go into

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the details of it because that's for the family to share,

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not for me. However, I can just tell you that

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as a mother, the story just touched my heart in

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ways that I can't even describe. You know, I've got

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a heart for strangers. I've always had a heart for

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strangers and people that I don't know, and this one hurt. Okay,

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this baby boy's name was Bowen, and he was three

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years old, and like I said, he was tragically killed

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on their family property. Now, normally I wouldn't share what

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I'm about to share with you, but because of the

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story i'm going to tell you, I have to share

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it with you. But know that this was sent in

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complete confidence, and that I had no intentions of sharing this,

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and this is not a self gratification moment by me

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sharing this with you. But I was sitting there. It was,

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I believe, the night before Christmas, and I was rapping

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presents and I was thinking about the holidays, and I

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had some music going, and this mama was just on

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my heart and her baby boy, and I could just imagine,

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or actually I couldn't imagine, but I could just think

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about what were they going through in their household in

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that moment, and what must it feel like? And I

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don't ever want to know but I just felt compelled

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that I had to write her a note. And I

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don't know her. I've never met her. Still to this day,

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i've never met her. But this story's going somewhere, okay,

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So hang in there. So I sent her this private message.

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This was at eleven forty six am the morning that

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I sentate, and I said her name, I said, we

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are strangers, we've never met, but my heart and my

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prayers are all for you in this moment. I know

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nothing of the pain that you're feeling, nor why you're

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feeling it. However, I know our God will never leave you.

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I pray he meets you wherever you are and breathes

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life into your soul when you can't do it for yourself.

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I pray he covers your husband and child here on

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earth as he holds your angel son in his arms.

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In these moments. These words may fall flat in the

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face of such enormous, unimaginable, unfair, and devastating events, but

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I do hope that they land somewhere soft for you.

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I'm crying in my living room right now, knowing that

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you will never be the same. I hope, in the

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days and weeks to come, in your new normal that

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you find comfort in that you never have to move on.

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We just have to move forward with all the love

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and respect a stranger can offer. Kelly Jennings and I've

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hit scent or send and and I meant every word

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of it that I'm just praying for her. So I

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thought about the baby boy all day long. I thought

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about it. I just couldn't shake it. Well, that night,

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you're not gonna believe this. That night, I'd say it

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was probably eight nine o'clock at night. I was outside

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doing a few things and my child said, hey, look

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a dog, And so normally i'd be I would just say, okay, cool,

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But it's Christmas, you know, and I didn't want someone's

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dog that was running away to get hit by a car.

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That would be terrible. That'd be tragic, right, especially on Christmas.

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So I went outside and I saw the dog go

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running by, and so I started calling and whistling and

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whistling for the animal. And she didn't turn around. She

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didn't even really acknowledge me until she came to the

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corner and she looked at me, and then she ran

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straight for the highway. And so I probably should have

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given up, but I didn't, and I kept whistling, and

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I kept calling and calling and calling. The dog was gone.

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I couldn't see her anymore, but I just kept whistling

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and kept calling, and as I came to the end

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of the road, I'll be dang if that dog's head

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didn't pop back out from behind the vehicle of whomever's

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house we were in front of. And so I kept

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trying to call her over, and you could tell she

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wanted to come to me so bad. She would cower

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down and then she'd run away, and then she'd come

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close her and she'd run away, And so I got low, low, low,

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and I finally ended up down like on my knees

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and just talking sweet and coaxing her over until finally

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she came and I grabbed her by the collar. And

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I was so ecstatic that I caught this dog, because

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the highway she would have been smoked. Okay, there's cars everywhere.

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So I walked her back to my house, super sweet dog,

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and I posted her online and I said, hey, is

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anybody missing a dog? If so, let me know. And

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I can tell that this is no cheap, old little

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you know, you know, gutter dog running around. This was

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a very expensive hunting dog. Its ear was stamped at

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the inside with a serial number and a beautiful dog.

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And I'm like, someone's missing it. And the collar had died.

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Apparently it had a electric fence that it was in

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and the collar died. Anyway, Well, just a few minutes later,

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I get a message from a neighbor of mine and

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he said, Hey, I know whose dog that is. They're

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missing the dog. They're looking for the pup. And I said, okay,

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well just tell him come to the house and I'll

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give him the dog. So some other stuff happened. Long

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story short, this young man shows up at my house

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and so I go to hand him the dog. And

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when I give him the dog, you'll never guess what

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he said. He said that he was watching the dog

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for his brother, who had just tragically lost his son

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in an accident. Y'all, the very dog that I was

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holding in my hand and had stopped from running into

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the highway was that baby boy's very dog. It was his.

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And out of anywhere in Denham Springs, Louisiana and anywhere

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that that dog could have gone, what are the chances

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of it running past my house? I don't know how

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you receive this. I don't know your thoughts or your beliefs,

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but I know what my belief you are. And if

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that wasn't a godwink to me, I don't know if

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there ever will be one as strong. And it just

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felt like, you know, I was being told that he

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was okay, little man was okay, and don't worry not.

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It probably wasn't even my business, but I just felt

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that so strongly, and they were able to take their

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pup home and have their pup home for Christmas, and

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so that just meant a lot to me, and I

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wanted to share it with you because it's something that

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happened in my life. And considering this is to ask

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me anything, how about I just turned it into I'll

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tell you anything. So I hope you enjoy that story,

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and I hope you know I'm going to take that

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into twenty twenty five with me because it meant a

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lot to me. So starting out though, with these questions

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of these ask me anythings, the first one I got

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was from Samantha Mancuso. So Samantha, thank you for asking

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your questions. And her question was, have you ever turned

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down a true crime story? And my gut instinct. The

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first thing I want to say was no, I mean,

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I'm not going to turn down the story. I mean,

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if there's a story to be told, I'd love to

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tell it. But there is kind of a caveat to

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I guess which stories I pick and choose, because I

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do really like ones that have been adjudicated or ones

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that have already been through the court process. And there's

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a reason for that. The reason I pick those cases

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is because having worked in law enforcement, having dealt with

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I guess instances in life where I have learned that

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there are three sides to every story, his hers, and

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then the truth is somewhere in the middle. And so

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I know that in media, typical traditional media, people like

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to just jump on hot stories or jump on big

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stories because that's what's gonna get downloads or that's what's

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gonna grab people's attention because it's all over the news.

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But I don't like half asked truths. I like full truths.

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I like all of the information. How did this investigation go,

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how did they get where they were? Why are we

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pointing the finger here? And so, no, there's not a

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story I've turned down. There's ones though that if I

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feel like there's just not enough information that I'm not

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gonna cover for it yet because I want all the

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information so that I can make an educated decision on

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how I feel this went or why it went the

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way that it did. I feel an obligation to you,

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the listener, to be as accurate as possible. And part

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of this is that the investigation matters to me. I

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want to know all of it, you know, I don't

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want a one sided, one sided display of information. I

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want all of the information. And I'm actually going to

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do an episode this season that is prime example of

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why I think the way that I do and why

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I pick the cases the way that I do. The

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other cases that I haven't been doing. But you know,

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Jimithy and I have been talking, and I think I

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am going to take a lot more of these on,

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especially when I have more time. Is I haven't really

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been taking on unsolved cases. Those are so frustrating to

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me personally, just like they are everybody else, because when

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I tell you the story, I want to have the

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whole story, and I don't have it. But hey, with

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an audience like you, and with good people listening and

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people who are vested in the goodness of society and

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bringing these people home if they're missing or or solving

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you the cases, I feel like, you know, this is

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something I need to take on, and so that is

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something in the future that I'm going to start focusing

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a lot one as well. Are these unsolved cases because

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we the people can probably solve them. Sometimes people have

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little tidbits of information they don't even realize it's important

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until it's brought to their attention. So I hope that

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answered your question, Samantha, and thank you so much for asking.

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I did get one from someone that sent it private,

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so I'm not going to put a name out there,

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but it said, how do you find all of the

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information on these cases? Because you always seem to have

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more information than anyone else. Well, I can tell you this,

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and I probably am speaking for every podcaster in America

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right now. For every hour of podcasting you hear me do,

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I can assure you there's at least seven to eight hours,

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if not more, of research and time and develop put

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in to these cases. I usually consult court documents first.

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with those people. If I have questions about how something

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may have gone down. I'll go call experts that are

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friends of mine and ask them their opinions. But I

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research the hell out of this. I go everywhere that

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I can, I speak to anyone that I can, and

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I spend a lot, a lot of time invested in

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looking these up and making sure too that the information

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I get is from a reasonably maybe reasonably is not

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the word, but a site or a source that the

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majority of us would accept as usually truthful or with

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no dog in the fight, if that makes sense to you.

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So to tell you where do I or how do

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I find all this information, I'm gonna tell you it's grit,

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it's time and its effort. That's where it's at. And

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doing a whole bunch of weird sleuthing online and connecting

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the dots, and I mean I go from obituaity. I've

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even looked at some census information before to try to

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figure out, you know, dots connected, and I read books.

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I look up articles that are written by you know, academics,

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and so that's where it comes from everywhere. I don't

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have an answer specifically, but it comes from everywhere, and

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there's a whole lot of time put into it. I

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can tell you my average episode in Jim makes fun

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of me for this sometimes he's in here listening mom recording,

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But my average episode has about eighteen to twenty pages

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of notes written, if that'll tell you anything on how

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much I put into these. So thank you so much

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for your question. Another one I got was, how are

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you so damn funny or is it off the cuff? Well,

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I don't think I mean to be funny. I think

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sometimes I'm actually an asshole and it comes off it

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comes off as funny. I've always been just kind of

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a goober. Things are funny to me, and I say

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stupid shit and it comes across as funny. I'm telling

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you it's not on purpose. I don't I don't pre

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plan the stuff I say. Majority of it is off

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the cuf when I write and I'm thinking. When I'm

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writing the episodes, I write just like a conversation. If

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you looked at my notes, it's literally like when I'm

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having a conversation. So most of it's off the cuff.

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When people laugh and they message me and say, I

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can't believe you said that, well neither, you're just a

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shocked as I am. Right, Jim, say something to the people,

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you're id here, He's laughing. Yeah, you're just as shocked

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as I am sometimes about what comes out of my mouth.

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It's natural. I would say the trauma of my life

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has developed me into the moron I am today. Can

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I get an amen on that? The next one was

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how do you choose your cases? Well, it's a combination

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of things that interest me and catch my attention, as

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well as cases that I've personally researched to the nth degree.

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When I'm teaching in class, there's a lot of cases

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I cover that mean a lot to me because of

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the way they went down and how the justice system

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played out in those cases. Jimothy gives me cases sometimes

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he's like you're doing this. When I'm like, no, I'm not,

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He's like, yes, you are, and it turns out to

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be a bang up episode. So I'd say it's a

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teamwork approach, it's an interest approach, and it's kind of

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also a suggestion approach. When people ask me, hey, will

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you do this case? I always look into them. I

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always do if if you think I'm just saying sure it,

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I don't mean it one hundred percent. I have this

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little calendar that I carry with me. It's like my life.

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And one of my tabs is potential episodes. And when

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people message me and ask me, I write them down

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and I go and I look so all over the place.

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I get them from all over the place. And thank

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you to everyone who always offers up suggestions. Sometimes y'all

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are the difference. Let's see Ella Arena, Hey, Ella, what

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a cute name? Or is Arena? Either way? Ella? You cute? Okay.

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You had a couple of questions. So her first one

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was which true crime story has affected you emotionally the most?

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And she said, I think I already know, and she

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put Casey Anthony. So you know what, I think I'd

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have to agree with her in one respect. In that

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Casey Anthony, that case really bothered me. It bothered me

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from the start of it. It made me angry from

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the get go, the massive amount of lies and a

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child at center of it. You know, kids are off

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limits to me always, but that one affected me really harshly.

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I can tell you that cases recently in my personal life.

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I say recently, I guess in my recent history, there's

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been people that I considered my good friends, people that

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I would have given my life for and I would

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have believed to the ends of the earth that I

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thought were good people, and they turned out to be

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the very devil that I talk about in a lot

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of my episodes, and the shock behind that has been

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life changing. I'm gonna do an episode on the one

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I'm talking about, so I'm not gonna give the name

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right now. You'll know it when I do it. It's

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coming this year. But I had a very good friend

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of mine who turned out to be an absolute wolf

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in sheep clothing, a liar about everything that was ever

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said to me. I believe was a lie. I feel

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like I was a pawn in his game. And I now,

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and I'm sorry this is kind of slow the way,

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but this is not scripted in any way, But I

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now find myself not being as open to friendship as

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I used to be. I've got trust issues. I guess

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I'm being super honest right now too, if you're listening

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to this, But I've got trust issues now, even with

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people that I know, and I know that I know them,

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I still find myself kind of cocking my head to

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the side and wondering, I wonder if you're really you, you know,

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I wonder if you're really who you say you are.

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I wonder if you're looking me in the eye. And

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everything you've ever said to me was an absolute lie,

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and you turned out to be an absolute horrific human

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being who was sentenced to the rest of your life

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in prison. That case, which I haven't named, that one

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has affected me tremendously, and that will be one that

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I'll do this season, and I'll open you up a

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little bit into my personal world and what it's like

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to be friends with an with the monster that your

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your mother and your father have always warned you about.

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So there's that one. She also said, how do I

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know Jimothy? Okay, so this one's a multi part of story.

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I obviously at one point didn't know Jimothy, And hey,

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you want to come in on this one. Here, let

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me get Jim and Mike and we'll we'll talk on

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this one together. Okay. So, like I said, I didn't

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script this, so I had to get Jim over here

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in a headset. So how did I meet Jim? So

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obviously we didn't know each other at one point, No,

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we didn't. We were strangers, wengers, And I was sitting

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in a dentist chair getting a tooth fixed my first

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root canal ever. Actually, and I had just started listening

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to Real Life, Real Crime because people were telling me

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it was local and I wanted to know more about it,

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which was obviously Woody Overton, and so I started listening

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to it and I just was stoked from the start.

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I really was like, Oh my god, I know these

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people he's talking about. I know the areas that he's

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talking about. And I wrote him and was said, Hey,

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I'd love to have you come in and talk to

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my students and my criminal justice class Lati Da. We

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ended up hooking up together and coming into my classroom.

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He came and talked to the students and it just

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turned out to be awesome. Well then you want to

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pick it up from there.

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Well orright?

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I left too much out.

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So during all the.

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I guess I was hosting another podcast that I still

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have to this day called Local Leaders. I was looking

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for someone to come in and help me sell stuff

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at advertising specifically because I'm you know, I was trying

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to make money, right, and so so I put something

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out there on Facebook and this particular podcast that I

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host we promote small local family and businesses kind of

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tell their whole story of how they got into doing

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whatever it is and they do, and locally it's a

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pretty popular podcast. So I put it out there and

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Kelly responds, and I'll never forget her whole response.

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Was, I can sell shit.

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Okay, So it was I believe summertime was coming out,

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and that's why I did it because I get bored

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in this summer and I wanted something to do. So

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I was like, I can sell shit, let's do it.

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So I actually recognized Kelly's name because of her affiliation

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with Real Life for a crime and she had had

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would he come in and do some things with her school?

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And somehow I recognized the name. It might have been

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that way, and so I said, sure, come in, we'll talk,

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and uh, I'll tell you how how I sell these ads.

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So she came in. Long story short, she was going

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to sell that ads for me. But you don't have

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to know Kelly more than about I don't know five

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minutes before you figure out she's hilarious. And so the

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whole time she's trying to sell ads, I'm trying to

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figure out a way to get her to podcast, because

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I'm like, man, this girl could really podcast good. So

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I started talking to Kelly about it. Look y'all, she

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was totally against podcasting in any way, shape or form.

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So I said, why why, you have a great personality,

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you have a good voice. Why would you not want

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to do this? You have all the experience with her background,

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and you know, corrections and all those sorts of things.

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And she says, I ain't letting anybody know, and then

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they're going to come at me. And she goes on

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this tangent like she had this life I knew nothing

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about this.

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Was My whole hang up was that I'm very opinionated,

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as everyone can tell. I feel strongly about these cases

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and these situations, and I take them very seriously. And

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so I said, ain't no way in hell I'm getting

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behind a microphone and given my thoughts in a case.

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And then I don't have to fight everybody in America?

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Would they come after me? And I just don't feel

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like fighting with anybody, right.

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So eventually, after working on Kelly for quite a while,

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I got her to do, like I said, just do

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one just.

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Well, Actually, first, didn't I talk with Didn't I come

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on Woodies for like a snippet?

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I can't think, Yeah, maybe I think you're right. So

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backing up, what actually happened.

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Was we were doing Bloody and Gola at this time.

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We still do Bloody and Gola, and Kelly came on

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and was talking about her time in corrections at Louisiana

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State Penitentiary and Goland, all the things she experienced, and

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I think she got kind of a bug. I can't

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speak for, but I think the bug, the podcast bug,

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might have bit her a little bit. She kind of

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had too much fun and the next thing, you know,

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you recorded episode one of year podcast. And we never

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even agreed when she I don't know if she remembers us,

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but when she recorded the very first up, I said,

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we didn't even have an agreement we were going to put

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it out there. It was basically like, Okay, I'll record it,

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but that's all I'm gonna do. And it was so

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good and you can still go back and listen to

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that first one that somehow I convinced her at being

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the world's best salesman. I convinced her to actually go

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for it and do her own podcasts, and.

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The rest is history, which is crazy. And that's why

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when I'm so serious when I tell people take risks

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take risks, and yeah I did. I poo pooed this

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for a long time until finally said, all right, I'll

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come in and I'll try it. And then I realized

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it's just storytelling. It's the art of talking about the

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things that you love so much. And so Jim's guided

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me ever since then and given me tips and tricks

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and all those things. And so that's how we literally

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came to know one another. It was just kind of

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like passing in the wind.

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And yeah, you know, I'll leave y'all with this and

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then I'll let Kelly get back to her podcast. But

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one interesting thing about it is when we started this,

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I believed in her so much. Now y'all have to remember,

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I'm a business and I know a lot of you

463
00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:13.319
can't see where we record out of, but this is

464
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:15.119
a legit studio, like.

465
00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:19.640
It costs money.

466
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:21.559
Now we're in a nice studio and this is where

467
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.400
we record. And of course I got to pay all

468
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:27.640
these bills. But with Kelly, I've cut a deal with

469
00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.039
her and I said, look, we'll just do it.

470
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:31.039
I believed in her.

471
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.519
So much that I knew eventually it would pay all

472
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.839
for both of us, and fortunately it has. But I

473
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:41.599
never had a doubt because when that first episode was done,

474
00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:46.240
the hardest part of podcasting I knew she had, and

475
00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:49.400
that was the ability to tell a story with the

476
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:51.680
knowledge to back up what she was saying.

477
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.519
And so then it was all about promotion and just

478
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:55.319
getting it out there.

479
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:56.839
And there was a lot of things we did along

480
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:59.039
the way to do that, but yeah, that's how it

481
00:24:59.119 --> 00:24:59.519
was born.

482
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:04.440
And now it's a brother sister relationship in every way.

483
00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:06.480
Shape or form. She cusses me out more than people.

484
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.519
But it's from the heart. Timothy and Jimothy came about

485
00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:13.799
because I was fussing at him and I didn't want

486
00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:17.200
to just say jim Yeah, and I can't call him

487
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:20.000
James because his wife does that. I mean, I you know,

488
00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:22.119
I needed something different, and so I was like Jimothy.

489
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:27.200
And it was because remember Grace, Nancy Grace had a

490
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:28.640
producer named Timothy.

491
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.079
She used to yell at all the time.

492
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:33.880
If you ever remember Nancy Grace from way back in

493
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:35.839
the day. She still has a show, but way back

494
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:36.400
in the day.

495
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:40.039
She had a producer named Timothy and she would yell

496
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:43.880
at him all the time, Timothy, get me this news report.

497
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.680
And that's kind of Also, how Jimothy.

498
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:49.680
If you're listening, Nancy, thank you for all of your

499
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:54.480
g I'm sure I'm sure you're listening to me. So Ella,

500
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.559
thank you so much for that question. That is how

501
00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:02.839
I met the all American man that he is. Jimothy Chapman.

502
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:06.960
All right, Oh, and you had one more question, Ellen, girl,

503
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.079
you had a bunch. You should have just called me.

504
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:10.799
We could have talked it out. Now I'm playing how

505
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.880
many kids do you have? So I will tell you

506
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:16.839
I have three children, and I am fiercely protective of them.

507
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:20.240
So I'm sure you'll understand that I'm not going into

508
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.039
a great deal of detail on them, but i will

509
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.799
let you know I have three girls. I am very

510
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.240
proud of them, and they are the reason I do

511
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:31.759
everything that I do. Everything I do is to make

512
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:35.279
sure that they grow up to be strong women that

513
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:39.039
are successful and can take care of themselves. So, yeah,

514
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:42.119
I have three kids, and I got a billion animals

515
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.880
at home, and I got a cute little husband that

516
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.119
I just think, you know is the cat's mew. So

517
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:48.720
I got a lot going on in my life and

518
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:50.319
a lot to look forward to when I go home

519
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.720
in the in the evenings. So thank you for your questions, Elle,

520
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.599
I really appreciate that. Then I've got Mikayla Alvarez. She

521
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.000
asked me, what do your kids think about your podcast

522
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.000
and how big it's gotten. Well, I can tell you

523
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.000
that they think it's cool that I have T shirts

524
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:08.640
with my name on them. I'm wearing one right now.

525
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.599
If you're watching me podcast, it's all sparkly. They real

526
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:14.640
they get frustrated with me. You want me to tell

527
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.160
the truth, it's they get frustrated with me because I

528
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.759
work twenty four to seven. I'm researching, or I'm on

529
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.240
a computer or you know, we still do our family time,

530
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.200
but they do get frustrated with me about it because

531
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:28.200
they say it's it's a lot of work. And I'm like, yep,

532
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.119
but I'm hoping I'm setting a good example for them

533
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.200
that hard work will pay off. But you have to

534
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:33.759
have grit and you have to be willing to put

535
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.720
in the time. Nothing will happen if you don't do anything.

536
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.440
So I kind of think that's where they're at. And

537
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.440
then MICHAELA said, do they tell their friends that their

538
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:47.400
mom is famous? Y'all, My kids don't think anything about

539
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:54.279
me like that. They think that I'm annoying, embarrassing, and tough.

540
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:56.240
I can tell you that my kids do think that

541
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.680
I'm a tough cookie, but nope, I don't think they do.

542
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:01.079
I think that they have no clue. A matter of fact,

543
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.440
one of my children gave my phone number out at

544
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.960
her uh, at her school, and that's been interesting ever

545
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.960
since because I'm now in a text message chain with

546
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:14.680
I'll make up a name, my daughter's name. We'll just

547
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.279
say her name's Michelle. It's not. But I'm in a

548
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:20.640
text chain now with Michelle's baddies, you know. And all

549
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:22.559
of these batties are in elementary school, by the way,

550
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.799
so I have some really baddy conversations going on, if

551
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.039
you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, we might have

552
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:31.880
to might have to fix that not sharing my number.

553
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:33.960
All right. The next question I got this is another

554
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.160
private one. What story has had the biggest impact on

555
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.400
your life or made changes in your personal life? Or

556
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.799
have you made changes in your personal life because of

557
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.160
a story That is one hundred percent a yes, uh.

558
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.839
Because of my career, because of my time in prison,

559
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:55.640
working there and dealing with people who have been less

560
00:28:55.640 --> 00:29:00.480
than honorable amongst children, and because of all of the

561
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.319
stories really that I tell about children. I can say

562
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:05.480
my personal life has changed and that I no longer

563
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.160
allow my children to spend the night at anyone's house.

564
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.839
Everyone that knows me knows that I am polite about it.

565
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.200
It's nothing against anyone out there. My job is just

566
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.200
to protect my children, and so we do not do

567
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:20.640
sleepovers at other people's houses. I don't care how long

568
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:22.519
I've known you. I don't care how much I love you.

569
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.319
I don't care how great your kids are. My kids

570
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.880
will not spend the night at your house. On the

571
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.480
flip side, I also am very particular about who I

572
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.599
allow to stay at my home as well. I don't

573
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.880
like people in my home that I don't know very

574
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.400
very very well. And I'm sure you can understand that

575
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.079
I'm not trying to come across as rude or anything

576
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.279
like that. I'm no better than anybody else. I just

577
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.559
feel a strong obligation to protect mine and so we

578
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:49.680
don't spend the night at other people's houses. So, yeah,

579
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.960
I know that's kind of not a specific story, but

580
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.880
I can tell you I used to have a neighbor

581
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.880
one time. This. I didn't tell this story as a

582
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:01.559
but I want to give you an example of this

583
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:06.599
that we liked, we thought was were nice people. Their daughter,

584
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.559
the neighbor's daughter, was friends with our very good friend's daughter.

585
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.839
They allowed their child to go spend the night with

586
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:16.599
my neighbor, and when their child came back home, the

587
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:20.519
child had some complaints, some physical complaints that turned out

588
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.519
from what we understand today to not be anything. But

589
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.519
I will tell you those neighbors turned out to be

590
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:31.920
complete and total drug addicts that were flying under the radar.

591
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:38.559
The neighbors ended up breaking into my house, stealing all

592
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.279
of our power tool equipment and things like that that

593
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.440
we had. That neighbor ripped down the fence in the

594
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.319
backyard to be sneaky. So we went to work and

595
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:51.880
he ripped down the fence between our homes and he

596
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.720
was robbing me basically or burglarizing my home from behind,

597
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.400
so no one saw it go down, which was another

598
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:02.039
reason that I don't like people real close up on

599
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:07.680
me anymore. They he pawned a lot of my stuff,

600
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:09.759
And I think if you've listened to my show for

601
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.240
any amount of time so far, you know that I

602
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.200
get mad real quick, liking in a hurry, and so

603
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.400
I took my happy ass up to every pawn shop

604
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.400
around here and found a lot of my own stuff too.

605
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:21.279
It's pretty proud of that. And that's how we were

606
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.640
able to hammer him for all the burglaries and everything,

607
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:25.359
because I went and got my own shit. I'm not

608
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.000
going to sit around and wait for somebody else to

609
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.000
find it for me, okay. And something about else about

610
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:31.720
that story that really bothered me was the fact that

611
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.200
when he did rip down our fence, he let out

612
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.880
my twenty something year old docsins that I had. I

613
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:39.880
had three we need dogs at the time that I adored,

614
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.920
and one of them ended up eating rotten food that

615
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.480
he had dumped out of his refrigerator in his backyard

616
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.240
and sold it for dope. I know this is like

617
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.160
a total You didn't ask for this, but I'm telling you,

618
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.039
and my dogs got so sick that they ended up

619
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:55.759
vomiting to the point of getting brain damage and ended

620
00:31:55.839 --> 00:32:00.799
up dying from their illnesses. And so, you know, just

621
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.920
trusting people. I don't trust people, and I know that's terrible.

622
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.440
You shouldn't live your life that way. But there's been

623
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:11.240
a lot of things that have happened. Some of those stories. Again,

624
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:13.880
I will tell in more detail in later episodes, but

625
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.079
that's impacted me, and I want to encourage everyone listening

626
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.279
that you don't let your children spend the night, young children,

627
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.400
small children, don't let them spend the night at other

628
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:25.759
people's houses. Everybody who comes back with a horror story

629
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:27.319
when it's all said and done said, I would have

630
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.039
never guessed this, And that's the key. You would never

631
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:33.119
guess it. You would never guess it. So, yeah, kids,

632
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.920
we're not spending the night at each other's houses. Number

633
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.799
ten question, what made you originally get into law enforcement?

634
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:44.359
Well that was an evolving thing. I can tell you

635
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:48.319
that I've always been interested in the criminal justice system.

636
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.039
I was obsessed with forensic files when I was a teenager.

637
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.680
That was all I watched. And so I was going

638
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:56.440
to school for something else at first in college, and

639
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.720
my mom walked in and said, why are you going?

640
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.000
Why is this your maid? And I said, I don't know.

641
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:03.640
I don't know what else to do. And she said, well, hell,

642
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:05.240
all you do is watch true crime. Why don't you

643
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:06.440
do something to do with crime? And it was like

644
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.200
a light bulb went off. I was a total idiot,

645
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.960
you know, a young teenage idiot. And I said, oh,

646
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:13.000
I guess I should do that instead. And so that's

647
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.279
kind of where it evolved from. And I just have

648
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.480
always had a heart for people that are hurt by others.

649
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:20.640
I want there to be justice in the world, whatever

650
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.720
that may mean. And so it just went from there.

651
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.880
When I went to college, I met a warden who

652
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.240
came in to do a guest talk in one of

653
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:32.319
my truancy classes. That was Warden Fontineau, and she was

654
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.559
a we're not at Angola. That's how I got my

655
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.000
first job out at Angola, and then that evolved into

656
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:41.240
a law enforcement career in Livingston Parish, and then so

657
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.759
on and so forth. So it just was a bunch

658
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.160
of things that made me that really inspired me to

659
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.799
get into law enforcement. Someone else asked me, when are

660
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:50.640
you going to tell the Derek Todd Lee's story in

661
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:52.920
podcast form? I know you did a live on it

662
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:55.920
that is coming up this year. That's going to be

663
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.359
a huge, multi part series. I think a lot of

664
00:33:58.400 --> 00:33:59.839
y'all are going to really enjoy it. If you didn't

665
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:01.359
go to the live. If you did go to the live,

666
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.599
you're gonna enjoy it still because there's a whole lot

667
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.559
of information We had planned on recording that sooner than now,

668
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.480
but we just got backed up on some things. But

669
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.639
that is coming into production this year. You're gonna get it.

670
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.119
And then that was a two parter. Then when is

671
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:19.920
your next live again, I'm about to sound really vague.

672
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.679
It's coming up. I would really like to get done

673
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.239
with my school teaching career. That will wrap up in May.

674
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:28.360
I'll finish seventeen eighteen years of teaching in the classroom

675
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.440
this May, and then y'all know I'm going full time.

676
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.039
So the live will be after May of twenty twenty

677
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.679
five as of right now, unless something should change and

678
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:41.079
we're able to knock one out sooner. So there's the

679
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:43.519
answer to that. Someone else asked me, what is your

680
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.960
typical work day? Like, how do you get everything done

681
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:46.599
that you do?

682
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:47.039
Oh?

683
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.280
Lord, you ain't never lied. I work my butt off

684
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.639
and there's I think no other answer to that. I

685
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.000
get up in the mornings, I go to school, I

686
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:58.519
teach my heart out all day long. As soon as

687
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.159
that bell rings, take my happy ass home. I jump

688
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:05.440
in front of a computer and I work on my podcast.

689
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.480
I do that almost seven days a week. I work

690
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.760
every day of the week in some fashion. However, I

691
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.800
do think family is super important, so we do make

692
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:19.039
our family time. But I do work. I work a lot.

693
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.559
My family has a joke and they say, we need

694
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.719
to make an appointment with you. Whenever you have a chance.

695
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.519
They'll text me that and it makes me feel bad,

696
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.719
but I'm busy. I'm sorry, So I just I work hard.

697
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.519
I work hard twenty four to seven. I also have

698
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.480
three computers. I have a school computer, a home computer,

699
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.599
and a laptop, and I work amongst the three computers

700
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.239
at all times. One of my friends in real life,

701
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:45.440
my child had a concert, a Christmas concert recently, and

702
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.760
before it started, I had my laptop in my lap

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at the church and I was working on a podcast

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for you in the church and someone mess up. My

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friend messaged me from across and said, wow, you're brave

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because the director of this children's choir don't play. And

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I said, hey, I got deadlines, I got things I

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got to do, So that's how I'll get it done.

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A lot of hard work and a lot of time invested.

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I think I'm going to wrap it up with this

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last question because it meant something to me, and if

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this isn't for you, that's fine, But I really liked

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this question and I was touched that somebody would ask it.

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The question was you seem to be a Christian woman.

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Do you have a favorite verse? Well? I do. I

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have a lot of them I like, but I have

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one specifically that involves law enforcement and the criminal justice system.

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I feel like all in one and then also me

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and you as listeners and as people invested in true crime.

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I do, and it applies. And there's someone who can

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actually vouch for me on this. Her name is Ashton Decker.

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She's a listener. She said that she and her her

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boyfriend listen to my show, which meant a lot because

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he's a police officer. She didn't give me his name,

725
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but shout out Ashton, and your boyfriend who's a cop.

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Shout out to y'all. But they can vouch for me

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because I sent something to im talking about this very verse. Okay,

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but my favorite one is going to be Rome thirteen four,

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and that says, for he is God's servant for your good,

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But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does

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not bear the sword in vain. For he is the

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servant of God and avenger who carries out God's wrath

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on the wrongdoer. And I love the way that this

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is stated because it's true. Good people need someone that

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can protect them and can and help them in their

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time of need. I believe that law enforcement are those people.

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I believe in the good of law enforcement out there,

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and I think that we as a community need to

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help one another whenever that might be. And so, you know,

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be afraid. I hope that the criminals and the bad

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guys are afraid. Be afraid because God's wrath will be

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brought down and He's got people on this earth to

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do it for him. So that's my favorite verse. And

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I also love it because it's on our badges locally,

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our local Sheriff's office has thirteen four actually inscribed on

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the badges, and so it's a reminder that we're here

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to do the good and we are not afraid. Be

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not afraid, you know what I'm saying. And so I

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really appreciate those questions. I think that these were great questions.

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I hope you enjoyed this episode getting to know me

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a little bit better. If you have more questions, hey

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send them Tommy. I have no problem answering them for you.

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Periodically whenever I can, and just be ready because next

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week's episode is on point, it's one that's in the news,

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and it's one that you're gonna love. All Right, y'all,

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take care. I hope you have a happy, happy, happy

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New Year, and I will catch y'all next time.