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Dec. 13, 2023

Cold and Calculated | The Murder of Mary Malone

Cold and Calculated | The Murder of Mary Malone
Cold and Calculated | The Murder of Mary Malone
Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast By Kelly Jennings
Cold and Calculated | The Murder of Mary Malone

Mary Malone, a 62 year old pharmacy tech from Plain Dealing, Louisiana was found murdered in a wooded area on December 19th, 2000. On January 16th, 2001, Jeremiah Manning was indicted for first degree murder. In this episode of Unspeakable: A True...

Mary Malone, a 62 year old pharmacy tech from Plain Dealing, Louisiana was found murdered in a wooded area on December 19th, 2000. On January 16th, 2001, Jeremiah Manning was indicted for first degree murder. In this episode of Unspeakable: A True crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings, Kelly tells you the events that led up to the murder, the grisly murder itself and the aftermath.

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0:06 Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering how is this even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.

0:51 Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, kJ you're back for another episode of Unspeakable. What's going on? What's going on? I have to tell y'all something. I have been Christmas shopping this past week and I have run into so many people and they've come up and said hey to me, And I want y'all to know I love that, because you know, it's validating when people come up and say, hey, I love your show. I'll listen to it. You're doing a good job. So I want y'all know I love meeting y'all and knowing you know, you're real people just like I am, And so thank you so much for coming up and saying hey. One lady. I walked out a Belk, which is a store on a Juban where I was shopping, and she walked out and she was like, hell yeah, she pointed out my shirts. I was like, yeah, boy, So thank y'all so much. I really enjoyed meeting y'all and keep on coming up to me and saying, Hey, but I gotta tell y'all something else too. So have y'all ever heard of Factor Meals. It's a meal company that you can order meals that are sent fresh to your home and you can you know, heat them up and eat them.

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3:37 Thank you so much for being a listener. I really appreciate having you all the way from Texas, and everyone knows my sister lives there, so I like Texas. I think I say it every single time someone uh someone joins from Texas. So hey, miss Dana, thank you. And Mary Wheat if this is not the ultimate compliment Miss Mary. I know miss Mary because she is the mother of a friend of mine that I used to work with and she joined she's she's in Walker, Louisiana, and I am so tickled because, wow, you know someone who knows you is willing to sign up and support you when she hears my mouth run anyway just in everyday life. She could hear me talk. But thank you so much, Miss Mary. Tell mister Buck and y'all, yes, her husband's real name is Buckwheat and I think that is precious. But anyway, tell mister Bucke said, hey, thank you so much for joining. It means the world to me.

4:21 I've got Cameron Gillory from Denim Springs and I think I taught Cameron I'm making I'm pretty sure this is the same one, and again the ultimate compliment a former student wants to still listen to their teachers speak from high school. What's up with that? So thank you Cameron, Hey girl, I hope you're doing well. And last but not least is Emily Salimi from Port Allen, Louisiana. Right across the river. Right you go across the bridge and Port Allen's right there, Emily. I hope I said you your last name, right, Salimi? SALIMMI Salimi? I don't know you tell me message me and let me know if I just totally destroy that. But thank y'all so much. Again. Your support is what makes this podcast go round, and I know I literally wouldn't be able to do it without your support. So thank you so much. Now this case that I'm going to jump in today again, this is another Louisiana case, and it's going to take place in Bojier Parish, Louisiana, which just geographically speaking, is going to be the northwestern part of Louisiana. And statistically, if you go look, it's an older population in that area, so roughly seventy percent of the parish is going to be white residents, and most people own their homes with an average cost of about two hundred thousand dollars. So to kind of give you a picture of what it's like there, I thought i'd give you just a little bit of that stat information. And ninety percent of the population has a high school diploma or higher, So I was pretty impressed by that as a teacher.

5:45 A good job, y'all. They're getting their high school diplomas. So I guess too, if you were looking at the people and looking at the culture of the area, it would absolutely reflect that Cajun culture that you often think of whenever you're thinking of the South. And Bosier City is the largest community in Louisiana, so it was a like a cotton exporting you know, river landing eventually turned into an oil boom town and now it's known for its not only its tourism, but it's casinos, so you can get down there and make you some money. Speaking of making some money, I just have to say this real quick. Thank you, Jaden Daniels, LSU Heisman Trophy winner. Thank you so much. I'm not going to say any more than that, but you, my friend, benefited my family. So thank you for winning. We're proud of you. I'm rocking the LSU sweatshirt right now if you're watching me podcast. But crime isn't necessarily a huge factor in people's minds whenever they live in Boser Parish. But you know, as every town does, it has its good, it has its bad. Matter of fact, I saw a few days ago that there was an investigation going on at the Bowser CVS drug store chain that the DEA would not confirm nor deny. But that said, the data nerd in me did some searching and found that their violent crime rate is actually one of the highest in the nation across communities of all sizes, both small and large, And I thought that was kind of interesting because it's an older population and it's still got one of the highest crime rates, and so that kind of lends itself to what is going to go

7:15 on in this story. For a little perspective, Bojer City has one of the highest rates of motor vehicle thefts in the nation according to the FBI, meaning your chances of getting your car stolen if you visit there is one in two hundred and forty three. Like what, you're gonna go to the casino, you better look out amongst that parking lot, count the cars because you might get your car stolen while you're there. Hopefully you'll win you some money. But this is exactly what was on the mind of Bojer Parish Sheriff's Deputy Jimmy Crean on December eighteenth, two thousand, so at approximately ten forty five pm, he was out on a routine patrol and his vehicles headed west in Louisiana Highway one sixty. And it will do your average evening shift, if ever there was such a thing. I know police officers probably wouldn't be saying that, because as soon as you say, man, it's quiet or ain't much going on, one boom, that's when things happen. Right. Well, the temperature that night was actually really cold for Louisiana, and the steam from the cars was readily seen as the cars were passing one another in the night. To be exact, the temperature was hovering around the mid twenties, and it was understandable that cars would want to take their time on the roads because ice was forming on the raised bridges and the water in the ditches along the roads was even freezing. So it was pretty cool for what we're used to down here. Now, every officer knows that ice and roads in the South is a bad mix. We can't drive in anything but rain y'all.

8:43 That's a fact, that is a true story. Snow, get out of here. We ain't doing it. We will cancel school for such craziness. Now, hurricanes are floods. We're riding on through, no problem. We'll get in our jacked up trucks and we'll get where we need to be. But cold weather and ice, Nope, we're going to jack that up. But these icy road conditions made for what would likely be a busy night of crashes if people weren't careful and they weren't paying attention to the road. No officer wants to get out in the sleeping cold anyway to handle business when they could be nice and warm and comfy in their patrol car. Driving around drinking their coffee. Right. This is unfortunately the issue to be realized by Deputy Crean on that cold December evening when he observed an eastbound vehicle veer off the road. And while you can never be certain from afar, Deputy Crean definitely thought he knew who owned the vehicle, as he had seen it before, and he knew that the woman who drove it was named Mary Malone. Now a little bit about Mary Malone. She was sixty two years old and she was a lifelong resident of Plain Dealing, Louisiana, And from everything I found about her, she was a god fearing woman and a faithful member of the Plain Dealing Baptist Church. She did still work too, even though she was in her sixty She worked as a clerk in the walk her drug store pharmacy, which was located also in Plain Dealing, and she was a very dedicated woman to her job. She had been an employee for over thirty years, and I think that says a lot about a person that when they sticked with one job for over thirty years, that's a pretty dedicated person to what they're

10:18 doing. And she had found love and made a life with her husband. His name was Vernon Malone, and together they had three children. She had a daughter named Gayla, and she had two sons, and their names were Brett and Lane respectively. Sadly, though, mister Vernon passed away in nineteen eighty eight. And while Mary may have been kind and soft, she was also a tough woman because she powered through that loss and she would later become the proud grandmother of multiple grandchildren. And she was just described as an all around kind woman. This was a good lady, and she was living now a relatively quiet lope life and everything you would expect from a Southern grandma.

11:03 So, considering it was cold and late, when you know, her car had veered off the road, Deputy Green decided to offer his assistance to her, and so he pulled his vehicle behind and the door of her vehicle opened, and as you can imagine, Deputy Green was a bit surprised when the person who emerged from the vehicle wasn't Miss Mary. No big deal though, right, I mean, maybe she had loaned the vehicle to somebody, or maybe it was one of her sons and they had got into an accident. I mean, there's a million explanations as to why her car would have had someone else stepping out of it. So he got out and he goes to approach the person, and he would identify this person as Jeremiah Manning. So, doing what officers you know, do, he decided that he was going to run a computerized check on the car's license plate and he was quickly able to confirm it was in fact Miss Mary's car. But there were no red flags and no one had reported it stolen, and there was nobody like no Bolo be on the lookout for. There was nothing to indicate that there was an issue at hand. Whenever he found this man with the car, there was just one thing that seemed odd to the deputy. And you know if you've ever you know, known a deputy, or you know, lived with with someone who is a police officer or been related to them, they'll tell you this that you get after a while, a gut instinct to things that just seem off. Now, in a court of law, it's not enough.

12:24 You can't you can't go and say well, I just felt it in my gut, because that I mean, how do you measure that right? How do you put that into words? For why you did what you did, But this deputy said, there was just something odd about the fact that miss Mary wasn't in the car. He really felt like she would have you know, maybe if someone would have been with her, she would have gone with them and let them drive the car or be in the car. But she just wasn't there. So why would she loan her car to someone in the middle of the night. That just really is what irked him. And so he asked Jeremiah why he was in possession of miss Mary's car, and he explained that he had been walking on Lake Road when two acquaintances of his drove up in that vehicle and they had offered him a ride. So, upon further questioning, Jeremiah identified these two acquaintances as RJ and Sean. Now he would also call RJ JR. So I don't really have an explanation for that other than he would say RJ or Jr. And this guy named Sean, as well as a third man that he didn't know. And it seems plausible a story other than even more people now being in possession of miss Mary's car and her not being there. So as the deputy and Jeremiah were talking, the deputy noticed what looked to be blood on his clothing, and in conversation, Deputy Crean asked him about it, but Jeremiah was easily able to explain this. He said that after he had gotten into the car, shortly thereafter, they had wrecked, and so after the vehicle had wrecked, the

13:58 men got out and a dispute had broken out between him and RJ. Now, this wasn't Deputy Cream's first rodeo, and he pretty quickly called bullshit right on this story. It just turned out he was having a hard time believing Jeremiah and that he had an unobstructed view of the accident as he pulled up to offer assistance, and it was very clear only one person had emerged from that car. So while this certainly wasn't a smoking gun or anything, it was enough to make the deputy again feel uncomfortable with what was going on, and so just for safety reasons, he decided to ask Jeremiah to turn around and put his hands behind his back, but he was not under arrest.

14:41 He put the cuffs on Jeremiah for officer safety and for his safety, and then went ahead and placed him in the back of his police unit. Now, I want to explain this to you. Just because a police officer handcuffs someone, it does not mean they're under arrest. Just because the cuffs go on to click, that does not signify arrest. It's legal for a police officer to handcuff someone if the officer reasonably believes that it's necessary to do so to protect the officer's safety or to prevent the person from fleeing who they're speaking with. And so obviously, as I've already established, Creane was kind of weirded out by this whole situation. And so in this instance, Jeremiah was simply being temporarily detained while Deputy Crean conducted his investigation of the situation. So Crean decided he wanted to radio for backup, and a few minutes later, another deputy named Cortes Bridges he arrived on SCEAM. So Creane then used Bridge's telephone to call Miss Mary's home to double check the story and make sure that she did in fact allow Jeremiah to use her car. Remember, Boecher is known for high crime rates, specifically car theft, so Creane was justified in believing that he might want to double check this story. So The phone rang multiple times, but no one ever picked up to answer. But luckily for Miss Mary, the deputy knew who her best friend was, and so he made another phone call to her. And her name was Annalu Giles. If

16:11 that is not the cutest Southern name I've ever heard in my life, Miss Annalu Giles, Well, Anna answered the phone, and she was willing to meet another officer at Miss Mary's home to go and check on her. So that officer's name was Richard McDonald, and so Richard McDonald accompanied Miss Giles to Mary's home. When they got there, they came upon something that would immediately make their hearts drop because they found the door to her house open. Now, remember it's cold outside, it's very late at night, and she's an Look, someone's gonna come after me when I say she's an older woman in her sixties. Look, I'm not saying that she's that old. I'm just saying comparatively speaking. Okay, she's not the youngest of spring chickens. Okay, but why would your door be left open late at night when it's freezing outside. It just didn't seem right. So they went inside and called for her, Miss Mary, Miss Mary, are you here? But she never answered back. So as they walked through the house, they noted that every single light in the house was on. Now you're like, okay, so what, it's America, you can have all your lights on. Well, I mean, think about your house at eleven o'clock at night. I mean, why would every single light be on, even the laundry room, even the bathrooms, every single light, I don't know. Even more strange was that there was food that was obviously in the middle of being cooked, but it had been left unattended on the stove and had been sitting there cooking for a while unattended. Now, being that Miss Giles frequented the home and knew

17:48 of recent holiday preparations, she said that she knew that Mary had set her table several days early before Christmas dinner, but now it was obvious that the dinnerware was dishoveled rather than neatly placed china and napkin rings and polished silverware, you know, ready for dinner. When the family showed up, they were ready to celebrate the birth of Jesus. And because remember she was a god fear and woman, several pieces of that tablewhere were scattered on the floor, and that was not good, right, we could all agree. And then as they walked into the kitchen and kind of looked amongst the items on the table, they noticed that one dinner knife was missing from the place settings as well. So the more that they looked, the more evidence they found of something more sinister to likely have taken place. So they continued through the home and they eventually found Miss Mary's purse was in the middle of the floor and it clearly had been opened. It had been dug through, and she was known to have several envelopes in her purse. She did just like my grandmother does to this day. My grandmother carries her cash and it's divided into envelopes for designated purchases and bills. So those envelopes that she was known to do her finances this way, they were there, but they were empty, and they were kind of scattered on top of the other contents of the purse.

19:17 So the deputy and her best friend continued to search the home, but she was nowhere to be found. They looked everywhere and then, realizing their worst fears, this information was immediately reported to Deputy Crean back at the scene, of the car wreck. In the meantime, Deputy Crean had continued talking to Jeremiah and was detecting the smell of alcohol on his breath, and considering that there had obviously just been a wreck and alcohol seemed to have been involved, Deputy Brian Keith of the DWI Task Force was dispatched to the scene to offer his assistance. So when Deputy Keith arrived, he opened the back door to the police car and he went ahead right then and there, and he read Jeremiah his Miranda rights. So when questioned further about whether he had consumed alcohol, Jeremiah admitted. He told the officer, look, I drank one beer tonight. Now, usually I want you all to know, when someone admits to drinking and driving, they usually will tell you like half of the normal or the actual number of drinks that they've consumed. I've learned that over time.

20:18 But Deputy Keith didn't really observe any other signs or indicators that would suggest that Jeremiah was totally inebriated, so it could have been true that it was just one beer. But at this point Crane decided, look, I think I should talk to a supervisor considering the totality of the suspicious circumstances, I really think we need to have another set of eyes on this, and someone who's a little higher rank than me. So he made a phone call to Major tom Myrick, who was at his home, and he asked him, Hey, will you come down to the scene. We've had this accident. Something just doesn't seem right, and I think maybe I need another set of eyes on what's going on. So about then, Jeremiah then added that he didn't know who owned the vehicle, and he contended that after the accident, the other two men had got off into the woods and then maybe caught a ride. So, you know, the deputy looks up like, wait, what what do you mean you don't know who owns the vehicle? He says, no, I mean I don't know who owns the vehicle. The other two men were the ones that knew, but then when we wrecked, they took off and ran into the woods. Okay, well, which one is it? Because he said there was two men and now he's saying there was three men. And that is what we and the BIZ would call a clue.

21:30 Considering the story was having all of these discrepancies, and the facts weren't really jiving. The police asked Jeremiah to come to the police station to continue the interview, and Jeremiah readily agreed to do so. So he was brought there shortly thereafter, and Jeremiah told Major Myrick basically the same story. Jeremiah said he was walking through town on Louisiana Highway three towards his father's home, which was located in Ballinger, you know, in the Bollinger community, when the vehicle came by. So inside the he says, there was a driver who he kneed to be rj or Jr. Again, he gave both sets of his initials, and then two passengers, one was named Sean and the third was in the back seat, and Jeremiah didn't know his name, so they stopped to ask Jeremiah, Hey, you want to ride, which he says, yeah, I'd love a ride. He says, he opened the back door, he entered the back seat on the driver's side, and then the men all drove down Highway one fifty seven to an intersection of Highway one sixty. So on the way, he said, look, we were all just having general conversation. We were talking whatever, and then RJ slash.

22:37 JR. Indicated that quote, and this is a direct quote. They had just gotten the car from an old lady and they were taking it to a chop shop in New Orleans, and then it was about that time that they drove into the curve. They veered into the ditch, and then he says, the car came to a stop in the ditch. And Jeremiah says, look, I was real mad at JR. For wrecking the car because it almost hurt everybody in the car, specifically me. Where I was sitting is where the brunt of the of you know, the crash happened. And so he said, look, words were exchange, and I'll admit tempers began to flare, and as the tempers flared, we eventually got into a fight.

23:18 So they exchanged a few blows and then JR. Got hurt and that resulted in some blood being left on Jeremiah's clothing. At some point off, you know, when that happened, the men got spooked, whether it was by a passing car or they thought they heard somebody, or whatever the reason was. And just before the deputy reached the scene of the crash, that's when the other three men ran off into the wooded area behind the car. Jeremiah then says he was convinced that the men had called somebody and that they had apparently caught a ride. Now, to me, it makes me kind of wonder something there. Why didn't Jeremiah run off with them. He obviously knew the car was stolen. He just admitted to the officer's look. They told me they took the car and they were taking it to a chop shop.

24:06 He's not an idiot, Okay. Why would you remain at the scene and everybody else run off? I mean, common sense would tell you that if everybody starts running. Traditionally speaking, people even if they don't know what's going on, will take off running as well as a survival instinct. But Jeremiah says, no, I just stayed back at the car. So as the time was passing and they're trying to get all this explanation of what could have possibly happened, Miss Mary was still nowhere to be found, nor the other men. And it was cold outside, y'all. She had no purse, she didn't have her money, she didn't have anything else that she would need, and time was pretty much of the essence and locating where she might be.

24:51 So once they were at that police station, there seemed to be a shift in the account of what was being told to police, and Jeremiah's statement seem to start kind of evolving into a series of statements. And basically there were inconsistencies in these statements, and once those inconsistencies were disproved to Jeremiah based on his earlier versions of the story he gave, Jeremiah would then make various additional changes to the story. Now, if there's one thing I can tell you about crime or about life, doesn't matter if you're talking to a ten year old or a fifty year old, it's that the truth never changes.

25:32 Once your story starts evolving, that's when you know somebody is hiding something. Now what they're hiding, you don't know. But why would you lie and why would the story change if you're telling the truth. It doesn't make sense, right. So Jeremiah then gives a second statement, and it was really similar to the first one, except this time he spoke about the argument with JR. But he said in this time when he's talking that he exited the vehicle before the car had wrecked. All right, So a small, a small, little change in details, but there was something that investigators knew that made this story really unlikely. The detective brought up to Jeremiah that he never was mentioning the fact that there was a baby seat in the back of the car, and this would matter, y'all. The reason the baby seat would matter is because it wasn't a small car seat. Matter of fact, to everybody on scene, it was oddly large. It was literally written down as an unusually large car seat that took up nearly two thirds of the rear seat.

26:45 So this is going to be a pretty big issue for Jeremiah because it would have been impossible, literally impossible for him to get in the back seat with another person with that car seat in the back seat, which he never even mentioned was back there. It physically wouldn't happen. It's two grown men. So faced with this physical limitation of room in the back seat, Jeremiah drops his head and he admits he lied about the presence of the third unknown black mail. Okay, like, why why would you make up another person was there? What what would that lie accomplish? And really, while you're listening to my podcast, what would that accomplish. What would adding another person to the scene of an accident, admittedly in a stolen car, it looks like, but why add a third person? So the fact that he's admitting that he lied about the third person isn't really giving anything. I think Jeremiah in his mind thought, oh well, let me give a little here, and you know they'll believe me. But it just doesn't add anything to the story. So Deputy Myrik advised Jeremiah, look, buddy, I don't believe you. I don't think you're telling the whole truth. And so he kept questioning him in a further attempt to locate and hopefully find miss Mary safe and sound wherever she may be. But time, again, is of the essence.

28:11 So continuing the questioning, Jeremiah would finalize his story by making some wildly different admissions that were nothing like how he originally started the story. So the questioning continued, and the investigators would revisit portions of the story from the beginning of the story and then kind of like all over the place. And I thought this was rather genius because when someone's trying to lie, Okay, think about if you had to create a lie right now, you would have to put your lie in order, right, because every piece of the lie is dependent on something down the road literally and metaphorically speaking, right, everything has to be in place to explain away future instances. So the questioning method I think that they used is genius because it doesn't give him time to a just for the order of the issues that he's telling them. So police were now able to pull another version from Jeremiah, and he now says, Okay, look here's the truth. Okay, I'm just gonna spill it. Jr.

29:14 Sean and two unidentified men had picked me up in a white van. So now we've got four suspects known to unknown the way that he words it, And he says Jr and Sean were dropped near miss Mary's house. All right, that's pretty big difference, right, They had planned to steal her car. But Jeremiah says, look, I remain near the street while Jr. And Seawan approached the house. And to me, that's pretty convenient, Like me speaking, that's pretty convenient. He's there, but he's not directly involved. That's what it sounds like. He's trying to set up here. And Jeremiah then says, but I did overhear miss Mary tell telling the men that they were welcome to take her keys, they could take her money, but please please do not hurt me. You can have whatever you want, please don't hurt me. At this point, Jeremiah says he became so upset at hearing this old lady plead with them that he left the scene. He was gone. He did not want a part of it, and he started walking back up town. Minutes later, JR. Drove up in miss Mary's car, and Sean was sitting in the passenger seat while miss Mary sat between the other two men. Jeremiah then says he entered the rear passenger seat and the car proceeded along Highway one fifty seven until the men reached Highway one sixty and

30:45 then they turned left. And then they had driven about two miles on Highway one sixty when JR. Slowed down and then creeped onto a little dirt road. Miss Mary was with them the whole time. I'm in this chain of events. Jeremiah said, though, that at this point she became extremely upset, and to Jeremiah's horror, he realized, we have turned down this dirt road. This is not good and Jr. And Sean are about to do some bodily harm to this old lady. Now I'm gonna take a pause real quick, and I want to tell you I did a little further research on Jeremiah for this part of the part of the interview, because I'll tell you I don't have video of the interview. So I was personally curious as to the size and weight of Jeremiah. And you're like, Okay, why would you care. Just trust me. I wanted to know what was Jeremiah like.

31:42 So for your information, Jeremiah is a six foot four inch, three hundred and eight pound black male who was born on December ninth, nineteen eighty, making him twenty years old at the time that this case took place. This is a six foot five, three hundred pounds man. I also then looked up Miss Mary. Now I will tell you I have limited photos about Miss Mary because this was not very big in the news, and so you know, there wasn't a lot of posts about what she looked like. But she was in her sixties and based on those limited photos that I have, she looks to be about five foot seven and roughly one hundred and sixty pounds.

32:30 So where my brain goes, and I don't know where your brain goes, but where my brain goes is if Jeremiah had an ounce of character about him, it would seem to me that he would at least lie at this point and claim to protect this elderly woman. But that's never mentioned. That's never mentioned, So I guess it's just to be assumed that he would ride his big ass right next to this little old lady and he's in a car that's been stolen and she's been kidnapped apparently, but he doesn't even bat an eye. Is that really what you're telling me, because Wow, it's not really looking good for you, Jeremiah. In my opinion, I don't think that this is getting any better. The more blame you're placing on the other players in this case, to me, the worse it's kind of looking for you. So Jeremiah then says he opened the rear door and he immediately exited the vehicle once he realized they're going to hurt this old lady. He said, I didn't want any part in this plan. That's when he said JR.

33:30 Rolled down the driver's side window and told him. This is a direct quote don't you tell anyone what we're doing tonight, or we'll get you. We'll get you. I mean that sounds like that, sounds like something that happens in third grade will get you. So several minutes later, that vehicle emerged, turned eastbound on Highway one point sixty, and then proceeded out of Jeremiah's sight. So he says, look, I continued walking on the highway for about a half a mile and that's when he came upon the vehicle again, but this time it was sitting in the ditch. So he ran up to it and he started checking for occupants of the car, and that's where he found it. It was empty, and that is when Officer Crean pulled up and apprehended him. So this version of events sounds all good and gravy and everything right, except for the fact that the detectives investigating and questioning him reminded him, wait a minute, Padna, there was blood on your clothing.

34:35 How could the blood be on your clothing if you were out of the car during anything that could have occurred to her? Now, y'all, don't let it get lost on you while this is going down. I've taken it and synthesized it right, and I'm kind of giving it to you in a beautiful order. The detectives don't know what's going on, and the whole time, this old lady is missing and it's freezing outside. So at this point, once he's kind of cornered, that's when he decides to admit, okay, fine, there was foul play. Something bad happened to her. He basically told the officers, your hunch is right. Something terrible happened to her. But I was a witness to it and it was awful, he says.

35:15 Now, he was present when Jr. And Sean abducted her from the home, and he's just shocked that these men were capable of such an atrocity. Jr. And Sean had gone into the home and they had taken miss Mary by force. But he was so stunned that they would do such a thing that he was frozen and he was in fear. He was fearful that they were going to do something to him because he was there, and so he accompanied them in their crime to avoid being hurt. Basically, he's trying to say he was under duress, which means you comply and you go along with something you otherwise shouldn't because you fear for your own safety. The six foot five, three hundred pound man fears for him is safety, Okay, mind you, I haven't heard any instance of a gun or anything at this point. So that's when he says he was seated in the rear seat of the vehicle when she was taken, and she was sandwiched between the two men, the other two men, and then he somehow is in the car as well. And hopefully you're picking up on the fact this is rather confusing.

36:22 I mean, it's not like it's this huge car that she has, y'all. It's a regular you know, like a regular sedan. So they drove away from the home, and they eventually turned off the highway. They turned on the dirt road and they slowed down. That's when Jeremiah said he wanted out of the car. He was gonna start walking, and that's when he did just that. And then he says this time that he eventually found his way down a trail on foot. And now, y'all, he stumbled upon a horrific scene. I I am sure he must have been shaking, because amazingly that trail he happened to walk down was the very trail where he came upon someone who was injured and dying. All he could think was that Jr.

37:17 And Sean had decided to murder Miss Mary, and he was very unsure of what to do next. So he did what anyone would do and he just kept walking right, just leave the old lady there, and he kept walking on foot back to the highway again. That's where he found the car in the ditch, and that's when Debudy Crean came upon him. He was so relieved to be able to actually tell the truth. He says, this is a huge weight to get off of his shoulders and he wants to help the police. So when they ask him, Jeremiah, can you tell us the location of where she was laying? He says absolutely, I will do whatever you need of me to go help and find this injured and dying woman.

37:59 So together they all set off to find her. Jeremiah led Deputy Myrik and some other detectives to a remote wooded area off of Highway one sixty and after a little bit of walking and searching, officers would find outside in the freezing frigid temps, miss Mary. But y'all, she wasn't dying, and that's because she was dead. Interesting to the placement of her body was the additional fact that her blouse was bunched up up around her neck. This sixty something year old woman had been cooking in her kitchen kitchen, preparing for the holidays, minding her own business. How in the hell could she have gone from cooking a meal to dead in the woods. So upon finding her body, the police cordoned off the scene and the coroner's office was called to collect her remains. Once the coroner's office arrived, it was then that they rolled Miss Mary's body over, and to everyone's shock, the absolute brutality of what this woman had endured was even worse than what anyone wanted to imagine. When they rolled her face up, it was immediately apparent that her throat had been slashed from ear to ear. And in addition to the shocking condition of her

39:34 throat was the condition of her head. She had suffered a massive blow to her head, so strong that it fractured her skull. I mean, the sheer brutality of someone cutting a person's throat is why most people veer away at this point of storytelling. And if you know if you have been following my Facebook, you know that the haters are gonna hate, and and I get so many ugly messages from people that say that I am that I am just trying to be salacious, and that I want shock factor. And those people couldn't be more wrong. They are dead wrong about me. To me, it's personal. Cutting someone's throat is extremely personal. What these people went through is the story. We don't gloss over it because it's hard to listen to the facts are the facts, and that's what makes the victim the victim.

40:34 So if you're easily offended, right now's the time to turn off the podcast. If you want to know the truth, I'll give it to you. Homicidal throat cuts can be produced, usually in two different ways, depending on whether they are produced from the back, from like behind the victim, or from in front of the victim. Of the two methods of when someone's throat is cut, statistically, people are going to be cut from behind. More often the head is pulled back and then the knife is drawn across the throat the homicidal Cutthroat injuries inflicted from behind are also usually longer. They usually start below the ear and then they run obliquely downward and then medially and then straight across the midline of the neck, and that ends on the opposite side of the neck, lower than its point of origin, so it starts from one side, cuts around, and then cuts off a little bit lower. Contrary to that, homicidal cutthroats inflicted from the front tend to be short and angular like angled, so further you know, instead of the neck being cut with one long, continuous motion, these wounds are inflicted usually by several swipes or

42:07 slashes, And y'all, it makes sense if you think about it. So someone breaks into your house, will make this up, right, Someone breaks into your house and they're armed with a knife. They come at you from the front. You're wanting to defend yourself, and so what do they do. And they're slashing and they're swiping, and they're trying to get it you while they attack you. But in the instance where maybe you were abducted from your home and you're being walked into the woods, you will lead your offender. You will not be behind them. That doesn't even make sense. You would run away, right, So the offender would lead you and you or excuse me, you would leave the offender, and they would be behind you directing your traffic, and then once they get you where they want you to be, they attack from behind. So based on the descriptions of her wound and the way that her body was found, it would seem this was a cut throat from behind. Assessing the scene the way that Jeremiah walked to her body, I get the feeling that this was a forced walk, and she was made to take those steps in that cold air to her final resting spot.

43:09 And it brings up an old case. If you haven't, if you just started listening, you might want to go back and listen to this one. But the Reagan Took's case because that little girl dealt with the same thing. She was forced to walk to her final resting place before she was executed. Mary didn't have on a jacket, y'all. She was older, and she had done everything asked of her since she was abducted from her home. And you can almost sense the stillness of the cold and the dark night and the fear that she must have felt. And I'm going to take the liberty here of telling you what I think it must have been like. And I don't know, and Mary can't tell me, So taking that liberty, I'm going to tell you. I think that she was walked by force at the hands of her captor or captors. And I bet the whole time that sixty year old lady was praying to the god that she faithfully served, And I bet she was thinking about her children and how much she didn't want to leave them. It doesn't matter that they're grown, They's still her babies. And how in the world does she find herself in this position. I wonder, y'all if she was being promised anything, or if she just had continued to comply to try to save her own life. And the reality is that we won't ever know that information because it's never been stated. All we know is what was left. So sorry if it offends people that I want to mention the fact that that woman suffered, and she was scared, and nobody protected

44:40 her, including the six foot five, three hundred pounds man that, based on all of these stories, was in arm's length and could have protected her at minimum. You're a coward. Even if you went along with it under duress, you're a coward. But what we do know is that she did everything that she was asked to do. She was scared and alone, but she kept herself collected and she moved at the mercy of her captors. She walked into that dark with a person or persons that she did not know. She was struck with a tremendous amount of force before she fell, and she was cut neck across like a lamb at slaughter. Slitting someone's throat accomplishes three things that will behoove the criminal. Number one, it will sever the trachea the windpipe right and generally it's done below the larynx, and this prevents someone from screaming or yelling. Silence, Miss Mary, it was done. Number two, it severs the carotid artery if it's deep enough, which it was in this case, preventing new oxygenated blood from reaching her brain she collapses.

46:00 And then number three, it severs that jugular vein, which allows the blood to freely pour from her brain. She drains out and sure, someone right now is going, well, this would have brought her unconscious really quickly, and you know she probably died shortly thereafter. Okay, great, wonderful, I'm glad that that's your assessment of things. But it's not like This is the movies, y'all. It is gruesome and it is animalistic. It takes roughly thirty seconds to a minute for total you know, blood loss and lack of oxygen before it completely kills the person. Unconsciousness would have happened much sooner, right But the heart, y'all, it continues to pump. It continues to squirt the blood from that carotid until there's not enough left to pump.

46:45 And here's the hardest part, y'all, And be warned, it's rough. But the whole time that Miss Mary's life was fading from her, she would be taking giant gasps of breath through that severed wind and gargling her blood and coughing. That is what that lady went through. She didn't just end up dead. People don't just end up dead. They suffer. Not to mention, part of the experience was the fact that she was struck in the head, a blow so hard that it fractured her skull. And while I wasn't there, I have a theory about those last moments. There would be no reason to cut her throat if she were already incapacitated from the head blow.

47:27 It would also be easier to pick her up by her hair and slit her throat if she weren't able to fight back. The throat cutting, in my opinion, was the coup de gras right, the action taken to ensure death, and that that date would be etched on her tombstone. Fully aware of the tragedy and the suffering that this old lady endured is what would leave investigators angry but also emboldened to figure out what in the hell happened and why. So, considering the numerous inconsistencies in Jeremiah's story, the detectives wanted to interrogate Jeremiah more and so, while Jeremiah had participated in the car ride with two people who had potentially killed her, shockingly found her dead body and was considered pretty suss in the whole situation. Amazingly, while they wanted to continue to question him, he advises them that he just wasn't up to talking much more.

48:30 He had more pressing matters at hand, y'all. When he got settled into that police station, and he told the investigators that he was tired and that he was cold, and he would prefer to continue this interview later already, then, so officers decided to know what we're going to go ahead and oblige you on that request. So they took Jeremiah from the interrogation room. They took him to the booking area, and they booked him with first degree murder, aggravated kidnapping, and aggravated burglary and then sent him to a cell. Now, lucky though, for you and me and everyone else, never underestimate the good old eyewitness and what criminals don't account for ever is someone else knows something. And it turns out a woman by the name of Monicle Lyles came forward and she told police that she had been out and about the night that this murder had taken place. I'm kind of fast forward a little bit, and around approximately ten pm on the night that you know miss Mary had been abducted and ultimately murdered, Miss Lyles and her fiance happened to be out and about themselves, driving on Highway one fifty seven, And it turns out she had very clearly seen Mary's vehicle and she noticed very clearly that miss Mary was driving the vehicle. We haven't heard that yet, have we. No

50:05 matter what story we've heard from Jeremiah, miss Mary was never driving, huh. It was always these other guys. And not only did she notice her, but it had drawn her attention because she was driving extremely slowly and it kind of was weird, right, So miss Lyles could tell that there was only one other person in the car when she drove by. It was miss Mary driving, and it was another person in that front seat. The other person was beside her in the front seat, and considering how slow the car was being driven, miss Lyles thought that the pair must have been lost because the driver appeared to be confused about where she was and like where she was heading. So as miss Lyles and her fiance drove past them, that's when she kind of looked over at the car and she noticed that there was another person with her, and so she let her guard down. She said, I actually became less concerned, and I figured that the old lady was okay because there was someone else with her. They must have just not been familiar with the roads. Now, in all honesty, miss Lyles did say, look, I did not get a good look at the passenger, But she says, I was one hundred percent that there were only two occupants in that vehicle, and I'm one hundred percent sure that miss Mary was driving the car, so even strangely further down down the night, she says, I wasn't quite sure, you know, how this all came to be, But she said I actually was behind her, and then I passed her. But then

51:38 forty five minutes later, she said, I saw her again. I passed her not once, but two more times on Highway one fifty seven that night while we were out doing, you know, run our errands and do what we were doing. And every time she saw them, she said, they just stood out to me, how freak and slow they were driving. It was weird. At about eleven PM is when Miss Lyles saw the vehicle for the last time, but she passed it when it was stuck in the ditch, and she said that there was a police car that had pulled up, and she saw a man in handcuffs standing next to the car at that point, And obviously this was a bit concerning to her, considering she had seen the woman multiple times and she looked confused, but she said, I was pretty sure it was the same car, but as I got closer, there was no little quote gray haired lady inside or with the officer that had that other man that looked like he was arrested, So she dismissed the idea and figured, oh, I must be mistaken because that little gray haired lady was driving the other vehicle. This obviously is not the same car, but it was. It was only after the news broke that Miss Mary was abducted and murdered that the puzzle pieces started coming together for that witness and thanked God for miss Lyles. So back to the questioning of Jeremiah. Now that her boy he had been found, Jeremiah was wanting to explain how there was blood on his clothing because he said, after the vehicle I had passed him on the

53:08 highway, he walked back up the dirt road to try and find Miss Mary. And this struck me as odd, y'all, because you know, I was I was doing more research and I'm kind of reading back and through all these confusing stories that he's giving, and you know, apologies, but this is how he told the story. But why would you assume that they had dumped her out on the road if any of these stories are true and we're going to buy into anything. Basically, he says he stumbled upon her body, But why would he think that they dumped her out on the road. That doesn't even make sense to me. What would make you assume that?

53:49 So, Jeremiah said, his main intention when he was walking down that road was to go check on miss Mary's welfare and ensure that she would tell the police that he had not been involved and beating her or in her abduction. So, considering that it was dark and the dirt trail was poorly lit, he said it scared him half to death. He said, I was just walking down the trail when someone grabbed my leg in the dark. Now, Jeremiah says, he immediately knelt down, and that's when he came to the shocking reality that it was miss Mary that had grabbed his leg and she was in dire need of help. So doing his best to comfort her, he says, I did the best I knew. How, he tells police, he cradled her in his arms, telling her how sorry he was and asking what do I need to do to help you? How can I help you?

54:45 But unfortunately she had lost too much blood and it was now as he cradled her in his arms, that she was unable to respond, and he says, she just was making gurgling noises. He decided to leave her there and return up that dirt road to the highway, where he came back to the wrecked vehicle, and again Deputy Crean was there. Now police couldn't just ignore the claim. Remember that there were two other men involved in this murder. And while it does sound stupid, at this point, there weren't these other men right, Well, he was naming them by name, and this would be something that would matter because it will come up in court later and it will have to be addressed because it's just going to put in that little bit of reasonable doubt. Maybe there were more people that did this. Maybe parts of jeremiah story are true. So Major Myrik and other detectives conducted an exhaustive search of the spring Hill area in an attempt to corroborate Jeremia's story concerning these alleged other assailants, Sean and Jr. And much to my surprise and probably yours, believe it or not, the investigating officers did actually locate these men. Y'all. They were real. Oh, Jeremiah was telling the truth about them. They were real. And I'll be honest, I thought Jeremiah was making this up completely. Their names were actually Sean Minifield and Andrew Lee aka Jr. Brantley. And something even more convincing that would say, hey,

56:21 they've got the right men in question is that they were literally the only men in the area that even vaguely fit the description that Jeremiah had provided. Jeremiah gave the descriptions and the names, so police knew that they had the men that he was describing. I mean, they fit the bill to a t. And when Shaw and Jr. Were questioned, they both were stunned to even be involved in this case. Both men willingly provided alibis, and these alibis were solid about the whereabouts of their night in question. Even more impressive is that they were both willingly consenting to submitting their DNA samples for testing against any DNA evidence found at the scene. At the scene, these guys were like, no, we were not there, you can have my DNA, do whatever you have to do. Both men did acknowledge though that they knew Jeremiah, but the connection between the men was very little, and they both only vaguely could recall who he was. And to boot as the investigation, you know, they were questioning the men both Jr. And Sean only vaguely knew each other, So the more investigators questioned the men, the more obvious became that they didn't know each other well enough to even hang out, let alone commit a robbery, abduction, and a heinous murder together. So on the morning of December twentieth, two thousand, Major Myrik of the Sheriff's Office conducted a final videotaped two hour interview with Jeremiah, and Jeremiah would tell

57:52 essentially the same story again that he did before, you know, leading the officers to the body, and he maintained that he was simply riding in the back seat and although he had been a passenger in the vehicle during the abduction, Jr. And Sean were responsible for her death. Here is the full final account of what Jeremiah says happened. So in the videotape statement, Jeremiah claimed that he was at a store called Carrington's on Highway Too when he encountered Jr. Who he had seen a quote unquote gang of times in both plane dealing and spring Hill. Jr. Was driving a van with three African American men, including Sean, riding as passengers. Jr. Who Jeremiah had seen at a nightclub in spring Hill the previous Saturday, told him that they were going to steal cars and bring them to a chop shop in New Orleans.

58:44 Jeremiah informed the men he quote unquote needed to go gamble downtown and that the men should haula at him when they got down there. After stopping at the dollar Store to purchase a jacket, Jeremiah went to Kenney's Bar, where he shot. Jeremiah consumed a single beer at the establishment, and he won approximately sixty dollars rolling dice, doubling the money he had with him when he had first entered the saloon. Jeremiah left Kenny's and went to another establishment called Jerry's, where he encountered his sister and her girlfriend. One of the men he had gambled with earlier in the evening approached Jeremiah and agreed to buy him a beer or two if he returned to Kenny's bar. Jeremiah exited the bar shortly thereafter, and he walked towards the nearby gambling shack. On the way, Jeremiah encountered the white van again with the same four occupants. He entered the vehicle and the men proceeded to miss Mary's house, where Jeremiah, Jr.

59:43 And Sean exited and the two remaining men drove off in the van. Jeremiah ran up to the carport and watched as Jr. And Sean approached the house, encountered Miss Mary and demanded her car keys. Jeremiah maintained he was not familiar with the house and he had never seen Miss Mary beforehand. Then Miss Mary told Jr. And Sean to take everything you want, and Jeremiah urged Sean to leave the scene. Jeremiah grabbed Sean, who was standing over Miss Mary, who had either been pushed or had fallen to the floor near the kitchen. Frustrated that his attempts to prevent harm to Miss Mary had proven futile, Jeremiah exited the house alone. Jeremiah was walking towards Highway two when Jr.

1:00:30 And Sean pulled up, with Miss Mary sandwiched between the two men in the front of her vehicle. Jeremiah then entered the vehicle as Jr. Drove. Miss Mary asked the men to let her go, but they proceeded to the dirt road off of Highway one sixty. As the car eased down the dirt road. Miss Mary began to struggle and Sean struck her twice. Alarmed, Jeremiah jumped out of the vehicle and Jr. Rolled down the window and said, quote, bitch, you tell anybody I swear I'll kill you. I'll kill somebody in your family. Jeremiah then ran back to the highway and tried in vain to flag down a passing vehicle. Jeremiah had walked about twenty five feet down the highway when Jr. And Sean emerged from the dirt road in miss Mary's car and drove off. Jeremiah then returned down the trail on foot to see if the men had left miss Mary there. He actually tripped over Miss Mary in the poorly lit area, and she grabbed at his feet, and then Miss Mary was gagging and unable to talk, and Jeremiah held her in his arms until she stopped moving. He then laid Miss Mary back on the ground and returned to the highway. After a truck had passed him.

1:01:42 He noticed that Miss Mary's vehicle was in the ditch and it had its emergency lights flashing. Two cars stopped at the scene, and Jeremiah told their occupants that he was okay, but asked that they called the police. A truck then stopped at the scene of the accident, and Officer Crane drove up in his police unit shortly thereafter. Jeremiah described Jr. As about six foot tall with a medium build and a mini afro. He normally wore Dicky's brand clothing and was associated with the Cripps the gang. Jeremiah described Sean as approximately six foot two inches tall with a slightly smaller build than Jeremiah. He thought both men were in their mid twenties, and he had met them at a nightclub located in the back of a store in Springfield. Jeremiah further claimed he was under the impression Jr. And Sean would release miss Mary until the men turned on the dirt road. He also maintained he never sat in the front of the vehicle and that accordingly, his fingerprints would not be found there.

1:02:44 Major Myrick then stated while he believed Jeremiah had told nine ninety five percent of the story, several portions of his statement still appeared to be implausible, and while this story may have sounded reasonable in his own head, there were too many aspects of the case that just didn't make sense or were completely unbelievable. So Major Myrik directly confronted Jeremiah with the facts that they knew to be untrue based on the witnesses and proving that his story made for some big contradictions. Rather than address the inconsistencies and try to explain, Jeremiah simply said, I want an attorney, so specifically for your knowledge, the officer informed Jeremiah one Deputy Crean had personally observed the vehicle wreck and that no other individuals had exited the vehicle. Number two, there existed no footprints on the dirt trail from the highway leading to miss Mary's body. Number three. If the perpetrator's intent was to steal a car and to chop it up and sell it for parts, then they wouldn't go to an unknown residence to get a five or six year old, four door oldsmobile. It'd be more likely that they would go jack somebody at a red light in a nice car and then number. The blood patterns on Jeremiah's clothing appeared to be spatter or spray, which did not coincide with his story of holding miss Mary in her arms while she died.

1:04:11 It was high impact blood spatter, meaning that she had to have been being struck. So when Jeremiah maintained, look, no, I told the truth and nothing but the truth, that's when he said, all right, I want an attorney. And so they concluded the interview, and due to the law, the officers had no choice but to stop the interrogation because, after all, you have the right to remain silent and anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. In the meantime, the police investigation uncovered various items of physical evidence that helped build the practical case against Jeremiah. While you know, they had the circumstantial evidence so far, and that's great, science was going to have to really pick up the slack here and make that connection that Jeremiah was actually the one that had killed Miss Mary. So the crime lab had, you know, they did their thing.

1:04:57 They completed DNA analysis of submitted samples, including those of both Sean and Jr. And, as you probably guessed to this point, the testing effectively excluded both men as perpetrators involved in the murder of Miss Mary. It had all been an elaborate lie with Jeremiah basically pulling random names from a make believe hat to throw underneath the bus. So subsequent DNA analysis did, however, show that there was blood found on Jeremiah's pants, and that blood did definitively belong to Miss Mary. So again, it seems odd that there would be blood transferred from a dead woman on the ground outside by simply stumbling upon her and then you just keep walking back. I mean, the whole thing is just ludicrous. There was also another pretty big piece of evidence that had been recovered from the car. Unbeknownst to Jeremiah, Detective Danny Lemoyne was looking through Miss Mary's vehicle after the wreck, and he happened to lift the floor mats and you'll never guess what he discovered underneath them. A knife, and that knife would be matched to the missing dinner knife from the homes set, and later during her autopsy, the coroner would compare the blade to the serrated marks found on her throat, as well as another laceration across her forehead, and he would conclude that this knife was likely the one that caused all of her wounds. So the totality of circumstances was just too much for Jeremiah manning to explain or to excuse away, and on January sixteenth, in two thousand and

1:06:30 one, a Bosier Parish grand jury indicted him for the first degree murder of Mary Ann Malone. Even worse for Jeremiah was that only two days after his indictment, the state then filed its notice to intend to seek the death penalty, so it would be roughly a year before this case would actually go to trial. But on May sixth, two thousand and two, which by the way, was literally when I was walking across the stage at my high school graduation, unanimous jury found Jeremiah guilty as charged. And one of my favorite parts of the conclusion of this story is that as Jeremiah tried to weasel his way out of his own conflicting stories, he didn't know one thing. If you paid attention earlier when I was talking about their questioning of him, Jeremiah kept doubling down on all of his explanations of events that horrible day, right.

1:07:23 But what Jeremiah wasn't aware of is that that final interview had been videotaped, so all of his lies that he kept doubling down on were proven in his own words and the video doesn't lie. When it came time for the death penalty phase of the trial, the jury unanimously returned a verdict of death and they explained why they had come to this finding, and they cited multiple aggravating circumstances, which are actions and circumstances that make already horrible crime even worse. Number one, Jeremiah was engaged in the perpetration of an aggravated kidnapping, and number two two his offense they felt was especially heinous, atrocious, or cruel in manner. So Jeremiah would eventually make several appeals to his conviction and sentencing, and he would raise claims that there were over forty seven issues with his case, but the appellate courts would ultimately affirm his conviction and his sentence.

1:08:21 Today, Jeremiah is on death row and he waits to be executed at Louisiana State Penitentiary at Angola. He does, however, hope that someone will be his penpal. I was looking him up, and among other things, he touts his ability to not judge and that he is very open minded and willing to share his life's story with you. His only wish y'all, he wants to find true friendship. I don't know. Maybe miss Mary would have been happy to befriend him before he robbed, kidnapped, and heinously murdered her. So, Jeremiah, you had to bring a weapon to scare an old lady, and I think it was your ultimate goal to kill her. I don't think she ever stood a chance. And so while you may be open minded and wanting real friendship, that ship has sailed, my friend, You, sir, have shown your true colors. And while you may have been dangerous on the streets, society can rest easy knowing you're behind bars when it comes to being a criminal. You made your decisions, you chose your weapon, and you executed your plan. And then once you were in the hot seat and you had to be questioned, you thought that you were going to win the battle of wits against officers. But it seems painfully obvious that when it comes to fighting with your intelligence, you continue to remain unarmed.