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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime
podcast where I tell stories of real crimes

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with real victims, whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how

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is this even real? I use
my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and

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combined with my years as a criminal
justice educator, dig deep into complex cases

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of evil acts, some so evil
many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences.
If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is
advised. Hey, y'all kJ here and

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I've got a bonus episode far YOUO. So let's get ready to bonus brown

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bum bum bum bum bump. I'm
gonna just tell all my listeners I wanted

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music right there, and Jimothy couldn't
make it happen for me, so I

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sang it my dang self. I
hope you enjoyed it. Okay. So

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this story is going to take place
in brick Township, New Jersey, and

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it's gonna center around a sixteen year
old girl named Brittany Gregory. And Britney

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really does look like your average American
girl. And I know a lot of

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people always say that to describe people, But legit, she looks like every

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white high school girl walking around campus
that I see every single day. She

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had mid to long brown hair,
She had a cute little button nose,

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She had big blue eyes, and
she stood about five feet tall and weighed

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about one hundred and five pounds.
Your average American girl, just doing the

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best that she can, trying to
make her way in the world. And

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she was the youngest of five kids, which I'm like, whoa, I

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bet you were. I kind of
feel like the further down the birth line

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you are, the cooler you get
because you just have to deal with everybody

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else's crap. But she came from
a pretty large family, but her family

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wasn't the most affluent people in town, and matter of fact, if I'm

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being quite honest, they probably were
considered on the lower end of the income

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spectrum, and they didn't really have
a lot going on as far as their

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possessions. Her parents' names were Gregory. Sorry, actually her mom's name was

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Deborah Gregory and her dad's name was
Joseph Dunn, and Brittany really didn't necessarily

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enjoy a lot of extras like the
other kids in school. But something that

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she did have undeniably was a whole
boatload of intelligence, and she was a

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very, very very good student.
She was strong specifically in science, which

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was cool because she was hoping one
day to be a forensic scientist. She

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was an honorable student, and she
was well liked by her teachers, and

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coming from a teacher that matters,
okay. So one teacher in fact who

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really tipped his hat to Brittany was
her former science teacher, and his name

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was Doug Hawser, and he was
just very impressed by her performance in class.

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She always had a one hundred percent
a in his class. She never

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gave him trouble, and he said
that she was even the go to person,

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Like if he was tied up and
was helping another student and another student

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needed help, she was the just
go to. Kids went to her,

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she'd get up and go help them, and he really just felt like she

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was going to be somebody someday.
And in two thousand and four, Brittany

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was enjoying her summer between her freshman
and her sophomore year of high school.

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Everyone knows that when you're in that
age group, you're just trying to figure

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out who you are and who you
want to be. And part of this

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process for Brittany also involved navigating the
turmoil of a young love right her first

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real relationship, and Brittany was sixteen, but she was dating an eighteen year

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old boy named John Fitzgerald. Her
sister Brianna really takes a lot of the

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credit for Brittany and John getting together, as she acted as a solid wingwoman

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for her little sister, because Brittany
first laid eyes on John at a birthday

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party that her mom was thrown for
her, and they hung out a little

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bit, but John had left the
party and Brittany kind of started pouting and

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said, everyone has a boyfriend but
me, and I want him, you

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know, the guy that left,
And big Sis came to the rescue when

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she got her boyfriend to go spend
twenty bucks on a cab to get that

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boy and have him come back to
the party. So, as fate would

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have it, they really liked each
other and they end up dating. And

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by the end of this case,
though, you'll find that this wasn't a

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new relationship or anything. The time
that this is taking place, they had

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already been dating for almost a year
and a half and John was eighteen,

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just two years older than Brittany,
and the family really liked him. By

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all accounts, he was a good
kid. He was a you know,

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typical what you would expect for a
teenage boy in a high school relationship with

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a teenage girl. But something to
note was that Brittany broke up with John

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over his supposed actions with another girl, and shortly after that breakup occurred,

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in typical teen fashion, Brittany immediately
wanted to talk to John again, so

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she had attempted to call him,
and when she finally got through to him,

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she found out that he was actually
on the beach, which really upset

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her because she wanted to go to
the beach with him and talk with him,

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but he would not leave to go
get her. And so, you

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know, when you break up with
someone, you're selfishly kind of hoping that

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they're sitting alone crying and you know, sobbing in the corner, and John

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just wasn't doing that. The fact
was that he was at the beach,

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and it gave Brittany the feeling he
was doing just fine without her, and

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it ended up making her mad.
So as Britney's frustration grew, she decided

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that she wanted to go see John
face to face to talk with him,

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and in reality, I think in
the back of her mind she was actually

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wanting to kind of reconcile with him, but she found herself unable to find

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a ride. She was young and
she didn't have a car, and so

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she couldn't get from point A to
point B. So she started calling around

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and she was looking for people that
could possibly give her a ride, including

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her oldest sister, Brianna, but
no one was able to give her the

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ride, and this just caused Britney's
frustration to just build. So on Sunday,

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July eleventh, Brianna Gregory said that
she woke up around noon and she

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was still kind of groggy after getting
home at two am from the hospital because

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she had been there visiting her and
Britney's brother and his girlfriend because they had

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just had a new baby. So
she slept in she was feeling kind of

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groggy, but when she got moving
around good on Sunday, Brianna asked Brittany,

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Hey, do you want to go
with me to go visit and she

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said, our brother, but this
was another brother. His name was William

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Gregory and they called him Boomer,
but he was currently in state prison awaiting

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trial on charges that he had robbed
a man and beat him with a tyre

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iron. So the family dynamic here
is really kind of coming together for me.

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The more I learned about their family, you know, the more I

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kind of see, you know,
I don't want to say they're bad people.

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I'm just saying that they they were
a little lax in there, I

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think parenting, and their kids kind
of paid the price a little bit for

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this. So Brittany didn't go.
She wanted to stay home and kind of

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sleep in and figure out what she
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John. And that next morning,
when Rihanna woke up, she realized that

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Britney hadn't slept in her bed.
They shared a room, and this was

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pretty alarming to her. So she
immediately left and she went straight to the

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police station. That's how alarmed she
was, and she made a report that

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her sister was only sixteen years old
and certainly should not have been missing all

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night. Right, So, considering
the circumstances surrounding the last time that she

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spoke to her sister, she was
even more alarmed because their last discussion seemed

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to have you know, really upset
Brittany about the breakup and the fighting with

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John, and she just wasn't in
a good place now. As I mentioned

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before an other episodes, juveniles are
not allowed to go missing. So police

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pretty quickly jumped on this disappearance and
they began to canvas the neighborhood and they

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spoke to a lot of people about
Brittany, but they gathered no leads and

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had no clue where she could have
been. But obviously teenagers don't just disappear

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into thin air. I mean,
she had to be somewhere. So they

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went back to the place that she
was known to be last, which was

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her home, and they decided that
they wanted to look through all of her

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personal things to see what was left
behind, because, as anyone who has

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ever been around a teenage girl in
their life for at least five minutes would

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know, there are certain things that
a girl just will not leave home without

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at that age. This includes things
like their cell phone or their hair brush

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and their lip gloss and their little
purse, right their little important things that

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they they're always going to have with
them. And what was pretty scary about

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this was everything was still in her
room. Scary enough, even her phone

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and I know right now, you're
like her phone. Why is that scary?

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Honey? You have no concept of
teenagers and they're tied to a cell

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phone. If you don't know,
you don't know. But trust me here,

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all I do is fight cell phones
all day long in my regular job

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because they're attached to them. And
she left it at her house and then

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was gone all night and nobody had
heard from her. That's weird. So

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making that discovery, the investigators immediately
let their minds go to a really really

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dark place. You know, has
she been abducted? And if she's been

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abducted, think about how long she's
been gone already. I mean, she

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could be hours and hours and hours
away from her home if someone took her

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and threw her into a vehicle and
they drove somewhere else. I mean,

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she could literally be anywhere in the
world. And you know, any other

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explanation they could come up with,
she didn't have any medical conditions that they

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were aware of, of, any
immediate consequence that might could explain. You

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know, did she pass out somewhere
or maybe is she in a hospital.

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She wasn't in a hospital. She
was just nowhere And no matter where they

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looked or who they asked, no
sign of her. And this is an

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alarming stat that I wanted to mention. Most victims who are kidnapped, which

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this was kind of leaning towards a
kidnapping, are killed within twenty four hours

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of their abduction. And Britney's already
been gone all night. So this is

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something that law enforcement does not forget
easily. And that's kind of where this

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case really started digging in, Like, my god, we have a real

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problem. It was such a shock
that she went missing. Even that science

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teacher I mentioned before, Doug hous
Er, mister Hawser, he says he

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was actually out shopping in a grocery
store and he picked up a newspaper and

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put it in his buggy, and
he was stunned when he saw Britney on

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the front of the paper. He
just couldn't believe of all students that could

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ever go missing, she was not
one that he would ever have expected this,

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and it hurt his heart. I
mean, she was such a smart

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kid and a good kid, and
he just could not believe that something could

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have happened to her. It was
really shocking to everyone. So, as

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is typical, detectives are going to
start with the people that are closest to

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the victim and then work their way
out. It just makes sense. So

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Britney's sister Brionna had already called and
spoken to John on that Monday after the

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Sunday that they broke up, because
she figured that they were together. I

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don't know, maybe Britney fell asleep
at his house or maybe, you know,

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they just stayed out all night.
And she was literally shocked whenever he

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said I never saw Brittany. The
last time I spoke to her was when

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I was at the beach and she
hung up in my face. Now that

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does a ligne with what was happening
right on that Sunday. So when questioned

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further about why they were fighting,
it turns out that they were fighting because

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John had kissed another girl. Now
shortly thereafter is when Brittany went missing.

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And this was a bit concerning because
detectives thought, hmm, their young kids

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do stupid things. Maybe we should
go to John's house and we should talk

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to him and have a face to
face chat to see what else he's gonna

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say. So when they arrived there, John seemed literally shocked to find out

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Brittany was still missing. He assumed, oh she was found, but they

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had broken up, you know,
they weren't talking or whatever. And he

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jumped immediately to answer any questions that
the detectives may have had for him,

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And the detectives felt that his body
language alone and the information that he was

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giving seemed to be very genuine and
that his emotions were real, and they

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didn't feel like he was holding anything
back. He was extremely forthcoming with all

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of the information that he gave.
So after even more questioning, it turns

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out the July tenth was the last
time that they had actually even physically been

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together. And John did bring something
up though about that time. You know,

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he says that Brittany mentioned in a
discussion that she would hurt herself if

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they did not get back together.
And that's kind of scary, because like,

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what if she went off in the
woods and actually did something, Like

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what if she went and shot herself
or stabbed herself or jumped off a cliff.

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I mean, we don't know what
she might have done. And then

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was she alone, did she just
get lost or and nobody was there to

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help her or rescue her. But
John's claims of Britney being self injurious or

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at least threatening to be was actually
verified, though, and he was able

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to provide a love letter that Britney
had given John in which was written in

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her own handwriting, and it was
her own words, so it wasn't like

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it could be disputed that she was
having those thoughts. Now here's a little

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side note. And I thought it
was kind of cute and funny, typical

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teenager stuff. But at the end
of the letter, when I was reading

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it, she signed her name brit
Shit, and I thought that was super

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cute. It gives a little insight
to her personality, and she sounds like

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she was a spicy little thing and
I really dug that, but little brit

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Shit. But something, and that
can't be forgotten either, is that all

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bad guys need an alibi, right, And it seems really convenient that he

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had this letter and that it says
in it, oh, and I will

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hurt myself if we don't get back
together. And then he even came forward

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saying, look, I actually had
kissed another girl and that's why she's mad

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at me. Well, even though
it seems stupid on the outside, people

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have killed for less, So you
know, investigators are wondering, well,

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man, had he done something to
Brittany in a fit of rage? Or

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you know, did Brittany go hurt
herself because of this? I mean,

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what do we think could have happened? With literally nothing to back it up.

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So in a good faith effort,
John says, look, I'll even

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come take a polygraph test, but
I can't do it right now. He

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tells the police. Look, I'll
have to come back at a later date,

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but I will be happy to come
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since detectives have no grounds to keep
him, they let him go. They

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leave. They're saying, okay,
well, please do come back now.

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that near his home there was a
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and while it wasn't necessarily the easiest
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he said, well, she might
have traveled through those woods to come meet

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me, because she's done it in
the past. And looking at these woods,

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because I went and looked it up, they're dark. You know,

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it's like a desolate kind of area. It doesn't have like a beaten path

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or like a sidewalk or something like. She's literally would be traveling through woods,

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but again, she had done it
before. I don't know that desolate

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is really the right word, but
there's certainly not the beaten path, and

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this would have been more of like
a last ditch effort I would take as

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a teenager to go try and meet
somebody. But hey, we've all been

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teenagers before, and we know that
when you get something in your mind or

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you want to go see some boy
or some girl, you're gonna find a

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way to do it. I remember
once I'm in high school. It's kind

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of funny. We had a little
party that we all went to. My

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little high school boyfriend wanted to come
to the party, but I mean I

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couldn't drive. We got dropped off
and so next thing I know, a

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yellow cab pulls up and he got
out of the car in a cab and

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I thought, dang, that was
an effort to kind of get to this

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party. And then wouldn't you know, he kissed another girl while we were

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there. Her name was Amber psh
Rude. Anyway, it worked out because

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I got to marry Mustud muffin Humblake. You can say, hey, it's

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a bonus episode. Say, hey, all right, now, this also

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seems pretty convenient as well as a
scary story. I mean, it's an

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explanation to say the least. But
you know, oh my gosh, someone

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must have gotten her. Maybe the
boogeyman grabbed her while she was in the

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woods. You know, it kind
of seemed convenient that he mentioned the woods.

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She said she was gonna hurt herself. All this other stuff was going

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on, So the thought does alarm
detectives, and so they go get a

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search team together pretty quickly, and
the hunt was on. But something that

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you can't discount is the fact that
everyone verified Brittany did not have a ride

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to go see John. So he
is making a valid argument, Hey,

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she may have come through the woods. I mean, nobody went to go

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get her. She's done it before. It's not necessarily something that's completely out

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of the ordinary, but they certainly
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So police would search for about three
days but turn up nothing, and

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they they kept searching. There was
there was, She was nowhere to be

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found. They didn't even find any
of her items. They didn't find a

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sweatshirt or a shoe or a headband. Nothing. It was like, at

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this point she did disappear, and
you know, a missing person's report had

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been filed, but the detectives took
the step of saying, we may need

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other agencies to help us out on
this one. So they put out reports

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and said, look, we're missing
this teenage girl. If she did run

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away or if you find her in
a different area, let us know,

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you know, she should not be
gone. And then I always think about

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whenever I'm writing these podcasts is the
role that siblings play, and in crime

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specifically, the fact that siblings are
always so willing to do so much for

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one another, you know, even
when we can be complete terrorists of one

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another, you know, but when
it comes down to the nutcutting siblings,

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a lot of these stories, there's
a lot of siblings that are willing to

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do anything to find or help find
their siblings and to try to help one

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another. And in this case,
Britney's sister Brianna and another sister they have

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named Bobby Joe. They even they
even take the step of making flyers missing

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person flyers and they go post them
all around town, and I kind of

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got the feeling of, you know, they're really wanting to help. They

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want to find their sister, but
what can they really do. You know,

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they have all this bottled up nervous
energy, and you have to feel

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like you're doing something, moving forward
and making progress. And if handing out

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flyers is the only thing that you
can do, then by god, that's

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what they were going to go do. So they're putting flyers out everywhere.

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And the community was really disturbed by
the fact that this young girl could go

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missing, because if Brittany could go
missing, I mean, anyone's daughter could

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go missing, and the reality of
that is just so true. So they

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all came together. They even held
a candlelight vigil for her. A lot

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of people came forward wanting to pray, wanting to help. Even that science

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teacher mister Howser I mentioned before came
forward and he offered his assistants to find

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his missing former student. And I
just feel that in my bones. You

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know, if you spend a year
teaching a kid and then they go missing,

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how could you just stay back and
not try to go lend assistants to

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find them. So, as is
common with a lot of investigations, there's

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a whole lot of information that can
come forward whenever they opened tip lines,

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and you know, if they're asking
the community for help, but things such

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as like sightings and old information or
information that's just completely useless is usually in

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abundance, and even if people have
the best of intentions, it oftentimes ends

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up just wasting resources and time and
police are chasing down leads that are dead

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ends and it's just fruitless. And
this instance was no different. A lot

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of time and money spent and know
nothing turned up about Brittany. So detectives

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had already spoken to her family,
and they've already spoken to her boyfriend,

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so they move outside of that nuclear
family, you know, that inner circle,

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and they go to speak to her
friends to see if her friends know

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anything that maybe they won't share in
front of the parents, but that they

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would be willing to share with investigators, you know, by themselves. And

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the information that the friends brought up
wasn't necessarily something that others were mentioning,

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so it was kind of like,
hmm, the friends were really talking about

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family issues that seem to be a
bit tougher than the average family problems.

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You know, usually when you think
family issues, you think more along the

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lines of, oh, the parents
are divorced, or they're lacking money,

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or there's fighting going on, you
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this is a little worse for Britney
in that she may be a bright student,

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she always has a smile on her
face, but behind closed doors is

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where we all know trauma is usually
taking place behind those closed doors. And

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this was the reality, you know, of Britney's situation, and it was

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out of her control, but it
was greatly affecting her life. The fact

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was that her father was a heavy
drug user, and we all know that

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anyone who's going to be heavily using
drugs is usually going to be in the

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company of bad people. I mean, I've never met a drug user who

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hangs out with nuns, you know. And I'm not going to go down

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the whole path of what all drugs, you know, do to people and

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all of that. What I will
say, though, is that when you

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become a parent, that should be
your number one job in life to protect

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your children with all that you have. Right matter of fact, if you're

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watching me podcast, if you're a
Patreon member, obviously you're listening to this

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bonus episode I'm wearing my show that
someone asked me to make and you can

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get them on my website too,
and it says, you know, I'll

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smile in my mugshot behind the safety
of my children. And I mean that

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all right. So her father,
Joe kind of seems to be lacking in

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the father figure area. And you
know, Joe was even you know,

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interviewed because of his heavy drug use
that Brittany's friends told the police about and

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they wanted to know. Look,
we're not here to you know, police,

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you over the drugs, but we
need to know who all have you

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had in your house? Joe who
all was here? But amazingly Joe whose

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daughter is missing and cannot be found. Amazingly, Joe isn't very useful or

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helpful in any of their discussions that
Mike could drum up you know, where

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his daughter is. And I found
that kind of disgusting because your daughter is

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missing. And look, I know
this makes me mean, I know that

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someone may not like that I'm saying
it, but damn it, your kid's

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missing. And then you're gonna mess
around with the police and you're gonna you're

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gonna stone wall and not say anything. What are you trying to preserve?

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Here? Are you? Are you
the plug. Are they coming to you

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to get their dope or what you're
mad? Someone's going to retaliate against you.

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Who gives a flying shit when it
comes to the fact that your daughter

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is missing. I would hang up
everybody across America if I thought they had

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anything to do with my kid missing, But not Joe. Not Joe.

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He's just gonna be quiet. What
you worried about becalled snitch? Who cares

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when your kid is missing? I
wouldn't care. I would storm the gates

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of hell. Y'all know it,
and I know a lot of y'all would

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too. It's insane and I'm offended
that a parent would refuse to speak disgusting.

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But someone else that was also brought
to the attention of detectives was the

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ex boyfriend of Brittany's sister, Bobby
Joe, remember the other sister that was

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hanging up the flyers that they made. His name was Tony, and Tony

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was kind of thought of as suspicious
because everybody knew this, even though they

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didn't want to talk about it.
But he always had his eye on young

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Britney. He really took a liking
to Brittany, and he was so obvious

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to everyone in the family that Bobby
Joe would even fight with Tony over the

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fact that he was always trying to
be around her sister, and she was

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jealous, quite frankly, like you're
dating me, but you want to be

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around my little sister, Like that's
gross, that's creepy. But Brittany was

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not interested in him whatsoever. He
just had a fascination with her, and

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so this really grabbed the attention of
detectives as well. So they went to

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go pay him a visit and have
a word with Tony. Now, something

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else that's interesting about Tony was that
he only lived about six miles away from

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Brittany's home, but he also didn't
live alone, so he actually had a

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new girlfriend that lived with him.
So detectives arrive on his doorstep and they

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say, look, I just want
to talk, and immediately he gets upset,

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I mean real upset that they would
come to his house. Now you

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know this, I know this.
People respond differently in certain situations. I

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mean, you don't know how you
would respond either. But he he was

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quick to offer an alibi and he
says, look, my girlfriend can verify

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this. We were together that night
that you know that you're saying Brittany went

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missing. The girlfriend agreed, yes, we were together that night, he

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was with me. We didn't even
go anywhere. So assuming that that alibi

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was true and correct, detectives also, you know, had done that research

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and kind of had investigated Brittany's boyfriend
ex boyfriend John, and remember they had

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been fighting. So what was actually
interesting was that he made good on his

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word that he had told detectives.
He said, look, I'll show up

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for the polygraph I just need some
time, and five days after Brittany went

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missing, he did in fact show
up for the polygraph test. And look,

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I don't know if you've ever taken
a polygraph test before, but it

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can be intimidating, extremely nerve wracking, even if you know you didn't do

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anything wrong. And I mean,
I have a personal story, I can

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vouch for it. It's kind of
funny. But you know, before you

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get into law enforcement, you have
to take a polygraph test. And my

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buddy Calvin was the one that was
doing my test. And he doesn't remember

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this, but I remember it because
I felt my heart drop into my buttthole

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and bounce because it tripped me out
so bad. But he started asking me

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questions once I was hooked up,
and the first question he asked me was,

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have you ever touched yourself in front
of a mirror when you're not dressed?

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And I looked up at him because
I thought, what in the world,

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Like, what does that even mean? And I'm an overthinker, so

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it's like, oh my god.
I mean when I get out of the

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tub, I'm not dressed and I
brush my hair and my mind's going nightty

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to nothing. And then he busted
out laugh and he said, I'm just

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kidding, and he turned around to
this piece of paper and it was questions

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that they asked sex offenders that they
think have offended somebody, and he thought

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it was freaking hilarious. I've outdudued
my drawers right there because I thought I

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have never in my life. But
anyway, I don't even know if he's

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listening to this, but Calvin,
you're wrong for that one, buddy,

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all right. Either way, they
asked all of the questions of John Fitzgerald,

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and he is shown to be truthful
on that test. Now, I'm

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gonna do a polygra test show one
day to kind of explain it, because

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I think y'll might be interested in
it. But the interesting the interesting thing

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about these tests in our society is
that when push comes to shove, it

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seems interesting how you know people are
always willing to speak up to save their

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own skin. And I think that's
quite hilarious, right. You know,

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John came forward and took the polygraph
test out of good nature and he passed

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it, and life is good.
But other people are kind of woosies when

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it comes to the fact that they
might have to go face prison time for

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something that they've done. And in
this situation, it's actually a confidential informant

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or a CI as we would say, that comes forward and talks to detectives

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on this person's own merit, Like
he played no role in this case,

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but something was said to him and
he kind of took note of it.

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See, this CI went to this
other guy that he likes to buy stolen

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property from. He was a stolen
property dealer and he had gone him to

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buy some stuff when he noticed that
the seller seemed to be a bit sore

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and like injured. So he asked
him about him, like, dude,

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what's up with you? And he
just kind of brushed it off and was

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like, oh, you know,
I threw my back out while I was

409
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.519
digging in some sand, so he
brushed it off. It was kind of

410
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:33.039
like, you know, you know, why are you digging into sand though?

411
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.680
It's weird, and that's when thirty
eight year old Jack Fuller coldly replied,

412
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:45.519
oh, I just killed a girl. So a quick rundown on this

413
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:51.200
Jack fella is that he has had
multiple criminal cases against him and was even

414
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:56.000
you know, referred to as the
quote unquote monster of the neighborhood. If

415
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.599
that gives you kind of a you
know, an insight to what this guy

416
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.640
was like. I mean, this
dude had spent tons of time in jail.

417
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.160
He had a horrible reputation. Even
the confidential informant was afraid of him,

418
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.200
even though he bought stuff from him. And I guarantee you that they're

419
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.759
buying this stolen shit because they have
to make money for their dope sales and

420
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.759
to buy drugs. But something else
that's really impressive and interesting is that this

421
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:25.079
guy, Jack Fuller, was also
a really good friend of Britney's father.

422
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.839
Now you might be wondering what kind
of relationship they had, but it's going

423
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:33.680
to be exactly what you expect.
They did drugs together. And while I

424
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.880
know I always seem to like insert
my personal life or opinions into this podcast,

425
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.759
this is one of those times where
I get so frustrated before even getting

426
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.920
into the meat of the story,
because I see this exact scenario go on

427
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.680
in my classroom today. Kids who
are doing their best to succeed in life,

428
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.359
they have no guidance at home,
they have parents addicted to drugs,

429
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:59.680
and then we wonder why they have
the struggles that they do. Britney was

430
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:03.119
a good, good kid who seemed
to be intelligent, had the world at

431
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.240
her fingertips. But because she is
a moron of a father who can't get

432
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.119
his own vices under control, she's
gonna have to suffer the consequences of his

433
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:17.079
actions that he's going to bring around. Just these these these people of society

434
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:22.200
that have no regard for others,
steal and sell stolen goods, and you

435
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:27.000
don't even think about your kids and
who you're bringing to your home. But

436
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:34.400
considering this, this cis information,
it seemed like a pretty solid lead.

437
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.759
When he pointed the finger at Jack
Fuller saying that he had killed a girl

438
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.440
and was digging in sand, he
knew that this girl was missing, and

439
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.400
so he just said to the police, hey, y'all might want to follow

440
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.160
up on this, and the police
agreed, but they said, listen,

441
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.279
we need you to be willing to
do a little extra work for us,

442
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.200
and the confidential informant agreed, I'd
like to give you a little information real

443
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:02.920
quick about recording conversations. And you
know this is going to be considering.

444
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.359
You know, my state Louisiana,
but different states have different laws. But

445
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:08.519
Louisiana, for example, we're a
single party state, which means as long

446
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.160
as one party is consenting to the
recording, then the recording can take place.

447
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:17.039
Meaning you can't just go, you
know, secretly record people on your

448
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.000
own in someone else's house. But
if you walk in the house and you're

449
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.079
recording you talking to somebody else,
then that means you're consenting. So in

450
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.440
essence, one person can secretly record
another. And this is apparently the same

451
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.000
law where Britney was. So it
turns out to be a great thing for

452
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:36.640
police because anything that could be recorded
would be admissible in court. And so

453
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.000
police decided, look, we're going
to wire up this CI and we're going

454
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.720
to listen in during a conversation that
they have when they go meet up at

455
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:48.240
a convenience store. Now, if
anyone wants to start right now the whole

456
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:53.039
entrapment argument, stop stop, stop. Let me explain entrapment for you real

457
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.400
quick. And I don't even think
this would even qualify in that instance,

458
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.400
but I'm going to explain it anyway, just so that the water is muddied

459
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:05.759
and you're not thinking about that.
So you know, entrapment is going to

460
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:12.599
be whenever the police entice you into
something that you otherwise would not be inclined

461
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:17.000
to do. So, for example, in trapment, I don't do crack,

462
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.960
despite what people may say, I'm
just kidding. I don't do crack.

463
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.880
Okay, So if I'm walking into
a convenience store and someone walks up

464
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.759
to me and says, hey,
would you like to buy some crack,

465
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.680
I'm not gonna go well, by
golly g Willakers, today's the day.

466
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.640
Sure, I'll take a crack,
right, and I'm being dumb. But

467
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.400
if you're not inclined to do that, then you're not going to agree to

468
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:45.599
do it, and so it's not
considered entrapment. Whenever you know someone offers

469
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:50.119
you something and then you're like,
no, I'm good and you walk away.

470
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.119
Now, if you were a crack
user and someone was selling crack on

471
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:58.119
the corner of the convenience store and
you walked up and the cop dressed up

472
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.920
as a dealer says you want some
crack, and you say yes, and

473
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.720
you buy it and they arrest you, that's not entrapment either, because you

474
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:08.880
were already inclined to do such behaviors, which is proven by the fact that

475
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:15.240
you bought the crack. Okay,
what would be entrapment would be if a

476
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.640
cop is undercover and he looks at
you and says, hey, will you

477
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:25.039
help me out, confidential informant and
go up to this other guy and sell

478
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:30.240
him this crack rock and then the
confidential informant says sure, walks up,

479
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.039
sells the crack, brings the money
back to the cop, and then the

480
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.920
cop arrests the confidential informant. That
is entrapment. Because the cop asked you

481
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.279
to do it, you went and
did it and then arrested you. You

482
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.880
entrapped them. But you know this
is a recording. It's not the same

483
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.680
thing. But I just want you
to understand it's not entrapment. If you

484
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:53.119
are recording someone speaking on their own
free will, and they're just having a

485
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:58.400
conversation and one person is wired.
All right, So here are the two

486
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.359
of the guys at this convenience store, and police are listing the whole time

487
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.319
through the wire that's being worn by
the confidential informant. And it never ceases

488
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:10.440
to amaze me that people who do
horrible things cannot wait to word vomit everything

489
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.440
that they did to another person,
even when the other people that they're word

490
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:22.559
vomiting to are sketchy af themselves.
It's comical almost. It's like Sketchy hangs

491
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.440
out with sketchy, but then they
gonna run their mouths to each other about

492
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.400
dirty deeds that they've done. I
guess we could call this like Darwinism or

493
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.960
dumbasism, or whatever you want to
call it, whatever floats your boat.

494
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:39.320
But the CI starts talking to the
bad guy here, or this suspected bad

495
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:44.880
guy, Jack Fuller, and he
brings up their previous conversation from the previous

496
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:49.480
day and says, look, I
saw something on TV about bloodhounds smelling bodies,

497
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.840
and if you really did kill that
girl, you better hope that you

498
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:58.559
buried her deep, because if you
don't have that body at least six feet

499
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.119
deep. The police are gonna find
her quick. And this approach kind of

500
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:07.280
tickled me because it literally led the
bad guy ride into talking about it without

501
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:13.199
him suspecting a thing, and he
takes the bait. And this is when

502
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.880
Jack Fuller doesn't even miss a beat
and responds with a direct quote that I

503
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:23.039
will quote to you quote. I
can't dig that shit up now, It'll

504
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:34.079
be stinking that shit, really that
shit. Those are the words that he

505
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:40.440
chooses to use to describe a young
girl that he readily admits that he killed

506
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.760
and thought so little of that he
dug a hole and dumped her in it,

507
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.920
not to mention he's a friggin' wooss
and he doesn't even dig a hole

508
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:58.800
deep enough and then is stupid enough
to believe a confidential, sketchy ass informant

509
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.719
and his so called story about a
bloodhound. I mean, I literally think

510
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.599
I've stepped in puddles deeper than this
dude. What an idiot. But he

511
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:15.840
refers to someone he claims he killed
as that shit unbelievable. I think this

512
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.199
also lends itself to the mindset of
a killer and how he couldn't care less.

513
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:24.599
He literally cares. He could not
care any less about the life that

514
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:29.639
he snuffed out, and we don't
even know why. At this point,

515
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:34.480
he just literally refers to her as
that shit, like it was another day

516
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.679
in the park. No regard.
I've shown more regard for a dead animal

517
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:43.280
on the side of the road that's
been hit by a car than he has

518
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:50.039
for someone else's child, a living, breathing human being, our neighbor's dog

519
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:51.960
one time. I ought to tell
you all the story in another show,

520
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.480
But our neighbor's dog got hit one
time, and I went out there because

521
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.800
they weren't home, and I covered
him with a sheet, and you know,

522
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.000
showed respect for so they wouldn't have
to come home. And that and

523
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:08.239
this man, oh, take somebody's
daughter. And then, in another upchuck

524
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.159
of more word vomit, he makes
the next statement, which is a direct

525
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:15.000
quote, I gotta take Tommy out. I'm gonna make it look like a

526
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:20.719
robbery. Bro is just standing in
front of a convenience store talking to a

527
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:27.679
ci about murder, and now with
the detectives and everybody and their mama listening

528
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.480
in. Obviously he doesn't know,
but he's just gonna stand on the side

529
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.159
of the road the of the convenience
store and say, I gotta take Tommy

530
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.239
out. I'm gonna kill somebody else. So the detectives are like, look

531
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.199
at each other, the hell is
Tommy? And what does Tommy know?

532
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:45.199
And where is Tommy? Watch your
six Tommy you know? Holy crap?

533
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:50.960
Well me, you, the detectives, and anyone else who's wondering, We're

534
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:57.280
gonna have to wait just a second, but not long, literally a second,

535
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.079
because the next thing that comes out
of his mouth is Tommy knows some

536
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.079
shit that could put me down forever. And he is the only person who

537
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:10.000
was with me when I was with
her Ding Ding Ding. That's the slot

538
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.760
machine's going wild right now. So
there's your answer. Guys. There's a

539
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.119
guy named Tommy, and Tommy knows
something and we got to figure out who

540
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:24.039
he is. And detectives now are
not only investigating a suspected murder of a

541
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:28.920
young girl, but now they have
to stop a murder that's about to occur

542
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:34.800
because this suppose that Tommy guy has
knowledge. You want to talk about a

543
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.679
whole lot going on. How was
your workday? Oh well, we had

544
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:38.840
to go find a dead girl and
then stop a murder. All in the

545
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:44.159
same case, if ever, there
was a be careful of the company you

546
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:49.119
keep, this would be a good
example. But anyway, it didn't take

547
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.599
detectives long to figure out who Tommy
was because, as I said before,

548
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.119
birds of a feather are going to
flock together, or I guess in this

549
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:01.480
instance, it would be more fitting
to say, you know, criminals in

550
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:06.599
need have a dope problem to feed. I don't know, but you know,

551
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.000
this Tommy guy was a long known
drug addict with a long criminal history,

552
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:14.239
and detectives are smart enough to realize
they probably shouldn't go poking around,

553
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.119
you know, churches to find who
this Tommy guy was. So all these

554
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:22.119
numb nuts hang out together. So
since they hang out together, this likely

555
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.880
means, you know, they're unemployed. But the police still needed to go

556
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.920
protect Tommy's life, even if he's
an addict, no matter his vice is.

557
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.719
You know, just because he knows
something doesn't mean that he should be

558
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.280
killed. So now we're kind of
jumping into those degrees of separation. But

559
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.920
basically, cops need to go find
the drug addict friend of Britney's drug addict

560
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.079
dad, you know, who may
know something. So the police do their

561
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.719
thing they're able to hammer down and
address for him, and when they arise,

562
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.880
when they arrive, low of freaking
behold. When they pull up,

563
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:58.400
old boys car is already out front
of Tommy's house. And as you can

564
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.639
imagine, the detectives are tripping ball
because they're like, holy crap, we

565
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.519
knew that this was probably gonna go
down, but Shitty's here before we can

566
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.760
even get to his house, you
know, the dude's probably there killing him.

567
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:14.719
So one thing that they noticed though, was that right when they go

568
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.840
to get out of the car,
Fuller Jack Fuller is walking back to his

569
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.400
car, you know, and in
his hands he's got a gas can.

570
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:25.800
So it's like, oh crap,
this is worst case scenario. From the

571
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:29.639
get go. The detectors are like, great, Tommy's dead. He's probably

572
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.199
in the trunk, and now he's
about to get burned up inside of it

573
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:34.719
because old Boy's got a gas can. And then we're gonna have an arson

574
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.320
and a murder on top of a
missing girl presumed murdered. So they jumped

575
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:42.119
out of their car and they grabbed
Fuller and they put him in custody and

576
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.920
they throw him in the back of
the cop car and then they go over

577
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:54.719
and they pop the trunk and there
they find Tommy's dead body. Just kidding,

578
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.800
No, they didn't. Tommy was
fine. Tommy wasn't even there.

579
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.199
Tom lived to see another day.
They went and checked it out, and

580
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.239
the actually ended up finding Tommy somewhere. But he was alive and he wasn't

581
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.039
in the trunk. Ha ha.
I tricked you. But anyway, and

582
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.960
for those of you know you like
wondering, really was he alive? Yes,

583
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.480
he was alive, and well all
was good. Now. If I

584
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:17.239
wasn't dealing with murder right now and
then an additional plan to want to kill

585
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:21.119
another person, I would be cracking
up laughing at the next part, because

586
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:25.239
you can't make this up. Police
go and talk to Tommy and they want

587
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.960
to know anything and everything he knows
about Fuller and his whereabouts and all that,

588
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:37.239
all that kind of stuff, But
he doesn't want to talk to the

589
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.639
police. He basically turns into a
complete dunderhead and he knows nothing about what

590
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.400
they're talking about. All he does
is deny, deny, deny. He

591
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:49.119
won't even admit that he knows Jack
Fuller. So that's when the police have

592
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.039
to give him a little bit of
a truth bomb and drop that on his

593
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:53.920
head. So they say, all
right, Padna, you don't want to

594
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:57.039
talk to us, that's fine.
Why don't you go ahead and take a

595
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.079
little listen to this, And that's
when they played the audio of Jack Fuller

596
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.599
telling the confidential informant that he's going
to go kill Tommy because Tommy knows something

597
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.679
that could put him away for life. And then, wouldn't you know,

598
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:14.480
a light bulb went off in Tommy's
head and all of a sudden, you

599
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:20.039
know what, It turns out he
did know Jack Fuller, what do you

600
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:24.760
know who to thunk it right?
And it turns out Tommy didn't take too

601
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:29.800
kindly to his friend or so called
friend, wanting to kill him. So

602
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.000
Tommy was willing to go down with
the ship behind this guy who couldn't care

603
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.000
less about him and was willing to
kill him, just to make sure that

604
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.199
he didn't say anything about what had
happened. So now Tommy says, okay,

605
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:45.320
look, we were childhood friends,
and some stuff may or may not

606
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:50.199
have happened, but basically Tommy says
that he and Jack Fuller were out driving

607
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:53.320
around in Jack's car and they decided
to go by and see Britney's dad.

608
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.920
When they arrived at the home,
Fuller got out of the car and he

609
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.239
went and knocked on the door,
But then he returns right back to the

610
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.960
car and says, I'm gonna drop
you off. So Tommy was kind of

611
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.639
confused at the abruptness of it.
You're gonna drop me off, but right

612
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:13.199
is there, He's trying to understand
what's going on. He says, that's

613
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.079
when the door handle pulled on the
back seat of the car and a young

614
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:21.800
female opened the back door and got
in. He would then identify that young

615
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:28.159
female to be, in fact,
Brittany. Immediately, Jack takes Tommy and

616
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:31.320
drops him off at home, and
then Brittany and Jack drive away together,

617
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:37.159
and that was the last time Tommy
saw Brittany, and that was the last

618
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:43.159
time anyone saw Brittany. But he
actually did not see anything go down and

619
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:46.480
no foul play at all, which
police were inclined to believe because Tommy's now

620
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:52.280
pissed off that Jack wanted to kill
him. So since Jack Fuller was already

621
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.760
in custody, the interrogation was on
right because they had just arrested him so

622
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.760
much like his friend turned murder target
Jack also play. He plays them about

623
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:06.239
everything that the police ask him,
he knows nothing. And something that's really

624
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:07.800
cool about people who play dumb is
that the longer they do it, the

625
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.679
more rope that they're putting out to
hang themselves with. So the police got

626
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.599
tired of playing the games. He
was wasting their time, so they just

627
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:17.760
spill the beans. They pull out
the tape recording and they play it for

628
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.920
him, and he sits there listening
to him speak in his own voice about

629
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.760
how he was gonna go kill Tommy, but that he had also already killed

630
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.559
Brittany and he had buried her,
and so he might be in a mind.

631
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.679
So once that hits Captain Obvious in
the forehead here, he decides that

632
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:39.000
he wants to switch up his tactics
and he starts blaming the police for setting

633
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:44.159
him up for entrapment. Now,
you're a smart cookie, and I've already

634
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.679
gone over why this wasn't entrapment.
So that ship didn't sail very far.

635
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:52.320
And he immediately then did what cowards
do and instead of talking and explaining what

636
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.920
happened, he lawyers up to save
his own ass. So not only is

637
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:07.840
he stupid, he's stupid and has
no explanation for it. And when I

638
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.079
this this bit, I want to
talk to you about real quick. I

639
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:14.559
know I'm about to sound like a
bad guy when I say this, but

640
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.840
I'm gonna say it because it just
never gets said. Okay. While I

641
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.400
know that Britney's father is a victim
in this and that he lost his daughter,

642
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:29.559
no doubt, is this one of
those times that I think that he

643
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:37.000
needs to reevaluate and recognize that he
holds a bit of culpability in his daughter's

644
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.400
believed demise. At this point,
it was his job to nurture her and

645
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:45.320
guide her and protect her, and
yet he continued to invite people with questionable

646
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:52.679
backgrounds and questionable motives into their home
to be around his daughter. And these

647
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.880
are men. And I'm not a
he man, you know, man hater.

648
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.280
You know, I believe in the
role of the man in the household.

649
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:06.039
And but I mean, damn,
if you're not even caring enough to

650
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.000
protect your babies, you know,
her safety should have been number one.

651
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.400
And look, everybody makes mistakes.
I'm not above that. I make mistakes

652
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:21.079
too. Whenever they go tell him, though, what they have discovered,

653
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:27.119
her dad seems completely and utterly stunned. The problem I have with that is

654
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.360
why are you so stunned? Like, why why are you taken by such

655
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:37.599
surprise that someone might do something to
your child, considering they act just like

656
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:43.480
you, and they partakeing illegal activities
with you, you're friends with them,

657
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:49.039
you know what they're capable of.
It just seems ludicrous. You know,

658
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.440
He's still a victim, though,
and he did lose his daughter, and

659
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.199
I'm not saying that he wanted it
to happen to her, But when you

660
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:58.800
dance with the devil, you cannot
be shocked when he brings demons along for

661
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.159
the ride. I just have a
problem with that. And then there's photos

662
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.440
I'll post for y'all of him whenever
this case went big, and rather than

663
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.679
being in front of the camera and
stating, you know how much his daughter

664
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:14.400
was loved and missed and where is
she and we want to bring her home

665
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.239
and oh my god, instead he's
smoking a cigarette and he's flipping off the

666
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:27.960
camera like that is who Brittany had
as her parental figure. But I did

667
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.760
feel sorry for him in one instance
because he seemed to just blurt out whenever

668
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:35.400
he was told that they believed his
daughter was dead at the hands of his

669
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.599
friend that he thought Jack Fuller was
his friend. He blurted out, wait

670
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.880
a minute. When she first went
missing, I ran into Jack and he

671
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.199
quickly said, oh my god,
I heard that she was missing, and

672
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.360
I really hope that you find her. You want to talk about a wolf

673
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.639
in sheep's well, no, he's
a wolf and wolf's clothing. But god,

674
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:54.480
dern you look a man in the
face knowing you've done something to his

675
00:47:54.599 --> 00:48:02.199
daughter. It's supposed to be your
friend, and then you're worried. Can

676
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:07.440
you imagine this guy knowing exactly what
he did to that little girl and then

677
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:09.199
going and looking that man in the
face and saying, oh, I hope

678
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:15.360
you find her, like nothing happened. That's an animal. And while all

679
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.320
of this is horrible, I mean
it's horrible in itself. Another major problem,

680
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.719
though, is that they're missing something
that they really need in order to

681
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.800
make these charges stick against Jack,
and that would be a body, because

682
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:31.320
the truth is, without a body, there's no murder. She's just missing.

683
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:39.320
And while he may have been in
custody, he wasn't talking right.

684
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:45.320
And this was just breaking Britney's mother's
heart too, And there was an interview

685
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:50.119
that she did, and she's literally
just choking on her own tears, and

686
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.800
she says, we just don't know
anything. It's frustrating, it's heartbreaking.

687
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:58.920
This is my baby girl. And
then she turns and she points towards the

688
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.920
jail across street where Fuller was being
held, and she says, why can't

689
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.159
he just tell us where she is? Why can't he? I want that

690
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.360
bastard in jail for the rest of
his life. Killing isn't good enough for

691
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.880
him. And I agree with the
mom there, you're a grown ass man.

692
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:23.840
Where is my baby? And what
did you do to her? Interestingly

693
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.679
enough, though, something that I
keep saying over and over again is that

694
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.639
the same twenty percent of the population
commits one hundred percent of the crimes,

695
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:37.719
and this is again proven. And
the fact that another woman would come forward

696
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:43.960
during this investigation and make a phone
call to detectives claiming that she had been

697
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:52.400
abducted by Jack Fuller, now this
really pulled at my heart because drug addiction

698
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:57.679
is very complex. It's not simple, and when I was younger, I

699
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.719
think I thought it was much more
simple than it is. And for all

700
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.639
the faults that drug addicts may have, for all the faults that they may

701
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.480
have, and for all the things
they do that make their families angry,

702
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.159
and for all the things they do
when they steal from society and are just

703
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:17.119
a nuisance. For even though all
of that happens, one of the most

704
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:23.199
important things that many addicts keep is
their humanity. And by humanity, I

705
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:30.760
mean they recognize a victim when they
see one, and in this case,

706
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:38.280
a addict comes forward and God bless
her. But she claimed that between October

707
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:44.719
and November of two thousand and three, Jack Fuller had actually kidnapped her and

708
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.880
held her hostage. And the way
that she was able to get free,

709
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.800
or excuse me, the way that
he was able to get her was the

710
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.800
fact that she was in the throes
of active addiction, and he lured her

711
00:50:55.079 --> 00:51:00.599
with the promise of free drugs if
she would come with him. I just

712
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:05.719
imagine the little puppy in the woods, you know, that's dying and needing

713
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:07.320
help, and you dangle the steak
out, the puppy comes, and then

714
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:13.000
you just snatch it up and mistreat
it. You know. Luckily, though,

715
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.480
she was able to escape him,
but as a result of her getting

716
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.320
away, she was now calling police
to say I think I know where that

717
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.039
body might be of young Brittney if
he buried her, I bet you I

718
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:30.239
can point out where she is.
And sometimes people will insert themselves into investigations

719
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:31.840
just to feel like they're a part
of it and to feel important. And

720
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:36.760
so detectives were a bit confused as
to how could you possibly not be involved

721
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.760
yet you claim you think you know
where the body is. But she came

722
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:44.920
back with a really valid explanation.
She said that when Jack was holding me

723
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.320
hostage, he would often get in
his car and he would take me to

724
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:51.599
his favorite place that he liked to
sit down and go get high. And

725
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.039
knowing what she knows about the fact
that this young girl was missing and that

726
00:51:55.679 --> 00:52:00.440
he probably kidnapped her, there was
a likelihood that he was taking her to

727
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.679
the same place that he was taking
this woman, I mean, the previous

728
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:12.199
woman that what he abducted. To
her credit, had a point, and

729
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.199
she was mentioning to police it would
be a perfect place for him to take

730
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.559
a body in her opinion. The
place that she was mentioning was off of

731
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:24.079
what was called Ridge Road in Lakeland, New Jersey. It wasn't something of

732
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:28.920
a place where like nobody would go
because it was known for where people go

733
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:31.800
dirt biking and off roading. But
it was just off the beaten path enough

734
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.719
that if you weren't going there for
a reason, you wouldn't be looking there.

735
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.079
And something else that was interesting about
what this woman was claiming was the

736
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.400
proximity to Britney's home, because it
was only a ten minute drive from Britney's

737
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:49.119
house. And when police went out
there to look, they agreed, this

738
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:52.320
is a great place to hide a
body. It's a very large area,

739
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.559
there's lots of woods, and it's
not necessarily a place where someone would be

740
00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:01.400
sitting for an extended period of time. And when they were walking about,

741
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:08.119
they also noted that it was a
very sandy area. Now, something that

742
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:12.199
law enforcement was able to use to
their advantage as well was that there was

743
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.760
a local state police academy that was
in session right then, and so they

744
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.239
were like, get all those recruits, were gonna use them. So they

745
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.840
loaded up all these recruits, they
brought them out there as well as a

746
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:28.760
canine team, and for about eight
days, eight long days, those canines

747
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:34.320
and those recruits were out looking for
a body. And I know that this

748
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.159
had to have become discouraging as the
days went on. You know, you're

749
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:42.440
just vast area and where, you
know, what are the chances of us

750
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.920
coming across her? But the chances
were pretty good because on the eighth day,

751
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:50.559
one of the recruits shot up and
said, oh my god, we

752
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.960
have an arm. One of the
lead detectives would walk over there and look,

753
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.159
and sure enough, there lay the
body of a young teenage girl.

754
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.840
And something that was very telling was
a piece of jewelry that was around her

755
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:06.400
neck. When the detective lifted it
up, it said the name Britney,

756
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:16.119
and sure enough, the recruit had
found little Brittney Gregory. Now, through

757
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:22.639
further research, it was found that
something absolutely incredible had happened one week to

758
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:27.320
them finding her body. It turns
out that there was a female officer that

759
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:31.800
was on patrol and actually came upon
him, Jack Fuller, at that exact

760
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:37.519
site. She got out of her
car and she questioned him a bit because

761
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.639
it did seem out of place.
But y'all, there's nothing illegal about being

762
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:44.599
out of place, and a gut
feeling is not enough in a court of

763
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:49.400
law to explain something. So she
questioned him a little bit, but there

764
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.840
was no probable cause and no crime
being committed as far as she could tell.

765
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:57.039
So she just checked on him,
checked up, and then she let

766
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:01.119
him go about his way. Little
did that office Sir realized that a homicide

767
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:07.639
had just occurred, but police just
weren't aware yet. Brittany hadn't been you

768
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:12.280
know, they didn't know that she
was missing, and she was right there

769
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:15.280
with him, but the police had
no clue, She had no idea she

770
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:19.840
was in the midst of a murderer. And the location where this man had

771
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:25.559
buried a body, it's now believed
that he was there actually checking on the

772
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:30.960
site to see if there was any
police activity, and that's when that police

773
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:35.519
officer spooked him and came upon him. Now, the fact that she was

774
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.639
found, you know, to an
average individual, it seems like, yes,

775
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:42.559
okay, we got him. He
killed her. Wow, This woman,

776
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.440
God bless her, was able to
give them an idea of where she

777
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.840
might be. But it's still important
that we have to link, you know,

778
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:57.320
Brittany to him. It's just circumstances
circumstantial until there's some kind of link.

779
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.960
So the police did their due diligence
and they did have his vehicle forensically

780
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:06.920
checked and wouldn't you know that there
was blood found all over the inside of

781
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.519
his car. Now I don't mean
dripping, but you know there was blood

782
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:15.159
found, and that DNA match would
come back to none other than little Brittany.

783
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:19.559
So what exactly happened that would lead
a grown ass man to kill a

784
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:23.760
teenage girl? At first, you
know, I was inclined to believe,

785
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:25.880
well, this is going to be
an obvious this is going to be sexually

786
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:29.800
motivated, right, he probably picked
her up to raper. But when I

787
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:34.320
did research on this case, I
could not find that link. And you

788
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:37.440
know i'd be the first to shout
it. I didn't see it, And

789
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:44.800
detectives don't believe that either. They
believe that he picked up Brittany after she

790
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.800
asked him for a ride to go
get a visit, to go visit her

791
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:52.400
boyfriend that she had broken up with, and it would make sense if they

792
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:58.440
went to go visit Britney's dad.
He knocks on the door, Brittany sees

793
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:00.840
the chance for a ride, and
he agreed, yes, I'll give you

794
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:04.719
the ride. The problem is he's
drug addict. He's in the throes of

795
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:09.320
addiction now, something that I don't
quite understand, and I'm gonna be honest,

796
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:17.639
is that Why did he tell Tommy
had to bring Tommy home before anything

797
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:22.360
might have happened if he didn't have
a plan to do something to her.

798
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:28.960
I'm not quite clear on that,
but they believe that he knocked on the

799
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:30.039
door to see her dad and then
asked, Hey, will you give me

800
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:35.000
a ride? He says, sure, no problem. Now detectives knew this

801
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:38.840
too. Brittany hated drug addiction.
She hated it with a passion. She

802
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:44.199
actually kept a journal where she wrote
about the fact that she hated how much

803
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.199
that she couldn't just have a normal
life and live a decent life like other

804
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:51.679
people, that they took it for
granted, that she was always around these

805
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.360
sketchy people and that it wasn't any
good for her, and she abhorred it

806
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:59.679
when people did drugs around her.
So the detectives believe that when she got

807
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:04.760
in the and they started driving,
he was smoking crack and Brittany got really

808
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.000
upset about it. She did not
want to be in the car with him

809
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.679
openly smoking crack, so she started
bussing at him about I don't want to

810
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:16.039
be in the car with you while
you're doing dope, and he reacted completely

811
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:22.079
irrationally because he was high and because
he's an asshole. He grabbed her by

812
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:30.239
the head and he began slamming her
head into the dash, over and over

813
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:31.480
and over again. I know you're
about to say, wait, I thought

814
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.920
she was in the back seat.
They switched seats whenever time he got dropped

815
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.119
off. So he grabs this little
girl by the back of her head and

816
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:44.719
starts beating her face mercilessly into his
dash until he finally just the one blow

817
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.880
just knocked her completely out, you
know, breaks your nose and knocks her

818
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:53.159
smooth out, And even in her
unconscious state, he gets on top of

819
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:59.000
her and continues to beat the ever
living shit out of her until she drew

820
00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:06.199
her last breath. Yes, all
of this over being told, don't do

821
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:10.840
drugs around me, please. Even
faced with all of this evidence against him,

822
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:16.840
he continued to show zero remorse for
his actions, and he took zero

823
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:25.320
responsibility for Britney's death. He claimed
complete innocence and had nothing to do with

824
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:34.480
it. On October eighteenth, two
thousand and five, he finally realized the

825
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:38.760
gig was up, and he pled
guilty to the first degree murder and was

826
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:45.840
sentenced to thirty years in prison without
the benefit of probation, parole or suspension

827
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:54.159
of sentence. Thirty years for murdering
a kid for nothing. You know,

828
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:59.519
Britney wanted to be a forensic scientist, and I just admire that so much,

829
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:02.719
and she wanted to solve crimes and
make a difference in the world.

830
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.960
And I guess she could say in
some way, y'all, it did come

831
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.719
true posthumously. But it came true
because in two thousand and eight, brick

832
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:15.880
Memorial High School began offering a forensic
science course and they specifically offer it in

833
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:21.360
Britney's memory. And I think that
that's a testament to the fact that this

834
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:27.239
kid was important and just because she
came from nothing doesn't mean she was nothing.

835
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.119
She matter of fact, overcame more
than a lot of people will in

836
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.960
their lifetime, and she did up
paying the ultimate price because her parents can't

837
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:38.360
pick the right people to hang around. I read a few of Rebecca's diary

838
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:42.320
entries and one of them that kind
of stuck out in my mind was the

839
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.360
line that she wrote, people can
take anything from you, but not your

840
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:50.639
mind. And I thought that that
was so prophetic for a young girl that

841
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:53.880
she realized her surroundings and circumstances were
no good. But they could never take

842
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.840
her intelligence from her, They could
never take her mind. They couldn't control

843
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.960
what she aspired to be. And
with every show I write, it becomes

844
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.840
apparent that we have got to do
more as a society to keep animals like

845
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:16.559
Jack Fuller behind bars. Britney should
be alive today. If you think about

846
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:22.320
it, y'all, she should damn
near be my age, and she would

847
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:29.159
have been someone I know she would
have been. So I am absolutely unapologetic

848
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.920
in my stance that we need harsher
penalties for people who cannot abide by the

849
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.440
rules of our society. And if
that hurts your feelings too, damn bad.

850
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:44.000
People comment on my social media all
the time that I'm harsh. Well,

851
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.760
what the hell do you want me
to say? Kidnapping is such a

852
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:52.599
strong word? Should I call it
a surprise adoption? What do we doing

853
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.880
in society? Get the hell out
of here with that. I don't have

854
01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:00.800
time for people with no backbone.
That's my answer to those people. What

855
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:06.360
it all boils down to is Jack
Fuller consistently refused to follow the law.

856
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.719
It's well documented that no matter how
many chances he was given, he continued

857
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:15.679
to add to his rap sheet until
he leveled up to murder. He was

858
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:20.599
an absolute waste of space, and
he had a history of being nothing but

859
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.119
trouble. I'm more of an eye
for an eye type of lady, which

860
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:29.039
is actually kind of funny because my
daddy always says I make a great troubleshooter.