April 30, 2026

Crime Wire Weekly 4/30/26 | Foot Fetish Felon, Home Depot Fraud, Bride’s DUI Dilemma

Crime Wire Weekly 4/30/26 | Foot Fetish Felon, Home Depot Fraud, Bride’s DUI Dilemma
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Season 10

In today’s episode KJ and Jim bring you the week’s trending crime related headlines. Check out the below for all the topics of the headlines we are covering today!

Timestamps
04:00 Baton Rouge Mayor Outlines Youth Violence Prevention Program.
14:00 Covington, Louisiana Podcast Cracks Open Cold Case.
23:00 Foot Fetish Felon Targets 100 Victims.
30:00 Stealing Soda Leads to Taco Bell Shooting
35:00 Home Depot Manager Accused of Millions in Discount Fraud
41:00 Bride Sues Arizona Police Dept Over DUI Arrest.
48:00 Lovers Lane Killer Found Dead *UPDATE*
52:00 SA Offender Known as Cookie Monster Arrested
01:03:00 *True Crime Time Machine Segment*
01:10:00 Foolish Felons Segment

OVERTIME

  1. Naked Home Invader Captured in Virginia
  2. Uber Driver SA’s Drunk Passenger
  3. Running with the Bulls Leads to “Goring”
  4. Man Bites Police K9 in Alabama

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Hey, everyone, welcome back. We have a jam packed show

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for you today. We're going to start out in Baton Ridge, Louisiana.

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The mayor has outlined a youth violence prevention plan for

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obviously the youth of Baton Ridge, Louisiana. This comes after

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the Mall, Louisiana shootings. Very interesting. We're going to talk

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about that. In Covington, Louisiana, a podcast has literally cracked

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open a cold case leading to the arrest of four individuals.

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So podcasts do you hold great value?

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They do? And if you're listening to this, you probably

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don't debate that a man with a foot fat ish

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targeted over one hundred victims in the way that he

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did it is the most interesting part of this story.

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You're gonna hear all about that.

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That's definitely not the fetish I would choose.

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Well, he would argue with you. There. A Taco Bell

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employee loses it over a soda filled water cup. That's

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going to be our foolish felon segment. A home depot

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manager is accused in four million dollars in unauthorized discounts,

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a major fraud at the major home supplier. A home

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building material supplier in the country.

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Definitely not a well, I don't know. It's kind of

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like he thought he was Robin Hood.

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We'll get into it, but in a way, that's actually

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a pretty good comparison. There, a bride sues the Phoenix

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Police Department after a wrongful DUI arrest. We're going to

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break this down. You're going to be surprised what happened here.

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A shocking update in the Lover's Lane murder case that

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we covered just a few weeks ago, regarding the suspect

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in that.

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This is great too, this is good for the people.

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Yeah, sex offender known as the Cooking Monster has been

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arrested in Nebraska. Scary situation there, Thank goodness he was arrested.

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We're gonna go on the true crime time machine once

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again today. We're gonna also take you to Texas where

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Chick fil A worker there had a refund scheme on

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mac and cheese eighty thousand dollars worth. Wait till you

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hear this one.

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Mac and cheese should never be returned to refunded. That

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is God's meal right there.

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Well, I think the problem was it wasn't returned. We're

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gonna get into that, of course, we'll have overtime after

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we cover the regular episodes on the Patreon page, so

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you're gonna want to check that out, but we'll get

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into it for today. Kelly, is that okay?

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I'm great, I'm ready to go. You're supposed to say,

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I'm Jim Chapman. I'm Jim Chapman and I'm Kelly Jenny.

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I think they know us by now.

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It doesn't assume we would think, But.

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Well, any thoughts before we start this episode? You look

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like you want to say something.

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No, I don't, I don't. I'm just I don't know.

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Whenever I ask her thoughts, her own mind goes blank.

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So we're not gonna ask her she has any starting thoughts.

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Yes, no starting thoughts.

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All right, let's start off in Baton Ridge, Louisiana, and

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Mayor President sid Edward Says outlined a new anti violence initiative.

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This came on Wednesday. He said that several data driven

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prevention programs focused on youth education and workforce training, just

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one or two weeks from the launch as the city

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grapples with last week's shooting at the Mall Louisiana. Now,

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this announcement came just five days after that shooting that

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erupted in the mall's food court on April twenty thirty,

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killed seventeen year old Martha Odom of Lafayette and injured

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five other people. There's been one of rust in the case.

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That's a seventeen year old by the name of markel Lee.

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We covered all that for you, but Edwards address the

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ongoing investigation and prevention efforts after wrapping up a meeting

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aimed at bolstering intervention programs ahead of the summer. He

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emphasized that while immediate law enforcement action is critical, that

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his office prevention program will be working with data driven

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approaches that have worked in cities around the country. Now,

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one thing that I know Mayor, said Edwards has done,

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is go to other areas of the country, actually visit

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those locations and see what they're doing to combat you violence.

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There are some areas of the country where they have

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taken a major problem in their city, such as youth violence,

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and really reversed it. And he's real good about Hey, look,

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I don't want to reinvent the wheel. If this is

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working somewhere else, maybe it'll work here. And that's what

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he aims to do. I got no problem with outreach

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pro and looking for solutions to what's obviously become a

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problem in Baton rrage. But i'd like to get your

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thoughts on at Kelly, and then I got a few

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thoughts on all.

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Right, so I'm okay.

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So obviously any step towards trying to improve what's going

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on is something that's to be applauded.

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Right, We need to do something. Something has to happen.

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And I hate to be a Debbie Downer here, but

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you know, I know they're looking to get grants and

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pay for all of these programs and things, and I

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think grants are great, but when it's all said and done,

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I just don't see how these anti violence programs are

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going to outweigh the daily influence of what is going

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on in their lives. You know, you have a captive audience,

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let's say, for an hour to do this anti prevention strategy,

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which is wonderful. We do need to do something, but

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I just think that we have a culture of drug

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and violent, permissive families where these kids may be a

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captive audience one hour, but then they're going to go

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home to these same environments, these same influences, and when

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it's all said and done, those major influences, I think

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are going to be the ones that are going to

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continue to take hold.

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Yeah, and I think you have two different responses when

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you're dealing with any crime, but especially youth crime, you

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have a reactive response and you have a proactive response. Now,

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the reactive response in this situation would be something like

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the pay raises that they're giving to BRPD that have

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just been approved. Those are important, those matter because those

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raise the numbers. One of the major glaring problems with

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BRPD in particular is that they don't have enough officers

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or one hundred and fifty officers short. So your officers

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you do have are absolutely exhausted. They're not only working

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the streets and trying to prevent crime in just the

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general street crime, they're also working a lot of extra duty.

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You've got things like look, LSU football hasn't even started yet.

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I don't know how many officers work that, but I

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would imagine it's significant.

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And these officers from they're from all over absolutely.

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Everything, right, So these officers are flat worn out. They're

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tired because the ore one hundred and fifty officers short.

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So that's the reactive response. And then you have the

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proactive response, and that is getting at your youth. Now,

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nothing has changed in the last fifty years as it

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relates to the best ways to get at youth. Athletics.

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Involved them in athletics. Why it's a time occupier. It's

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also something that builds their confidence. It's also something that

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teaches teamwork, all those sort of things. And they have mentors.

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These coaches become mentors to these kids who keep them

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out of trouble. Maybe you're saying, well, my kid is

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not athletic. You know, they can't run and chew bubblegum

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at the same time. But there's other options there. You

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have talent related extracurricular activities such as band, such as choir.

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You know, there's all kinds of things they can do

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that don't involve running a football or throwing a ball

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through the hoop. You've got church. Get them active in

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their church if you're if you're a believer, and that's

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something that certainly would help kids. Youth groups these days

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have a lot of programs that really help and it

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would be hard for me to imagine as a Christian

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something better than getting your kids involved in church. Also,

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and this is where a lot of people miss the

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boat work. Have them get a job at fifteen years

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old at a grocery store bagging groceries or maybe working

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at yard work or something like that on a weekend.

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These employers love this because they can pay a minimum wage,

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and these kids are building character, they're learning the value

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of hard work. They're doing things where they're earning money

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and then they don't feel like they have to go

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out on the streets and get that money through selling

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drugs and other things.

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So and I think there's a great I think one

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of the things that's missed here though, and this is

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just from experience in school, okay, with a lot of teenagers,

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is that's assuming that these kids have active involved parents

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that are wanting to improve their lives. And I've come,

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and again I don't want to sound like a Debbie Downer, but.

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I've come in the face.

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I've seen so many kids that you know, you love

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these kids, but you're staring them in the face that

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no matter what you tell them, they don't see value

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in themselves. They don't come with a whole lot of

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worth in the things that they can do, because when

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they go home, they go home to houses where there's

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not a lot of love, there's not a lot of encouragement,

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there's very minimal interaction. It's not a two parent household.

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It's maybe a mom, you know, that's working making minimum

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wage something like that. And then you just flat out

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have some parents that just don't parent, that don't think

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that it's a problem that their kid is late or

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doesn't want to go to school or doesn't want and

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you know, they are permissive in that they aren't reactive

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to their kids not doing what they're supposed to be doing,

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if that makes any sense, And those are the ones

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I think that we're going to have the biggest trouble with.

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Yeah, that's certainly an issue as well. Of course, the

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parent's got to be on board for any of those

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activities to work. And I think something that they are doing,

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or they're starting to look at, is parents being held

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responsible in some cases for things that their kids are doing.

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You know, they're doing that with gun violence right now.

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Relative to you see it like a school shooting and

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that gun came from the house and a parent did

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not have that gun secured properly, and that kid ended

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up getting a hold of that gun, they hold the

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parent responsible now that it didn't used to be that way.

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Well, and if you know for a fact, and like

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in this case, that shooter had a juvenile record, you

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can't tell me that the family did not. And I'm

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not blaming the family, Okay, I'm just looking at this

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in totality of circumstance. But if that kid has been

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going to court for juvenile related issues, you can't tell

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me someone in the family didn't already know that. So

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how did it even get to the point that he's

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now in possession of a weapon, not at school, in

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the food court, shooting at people.

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Well, it looks like a lack of supervision, it.

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You would think that. Now you know the grandmothers who

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turned him in. I do his own grandmother, I did.

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I don't think he was raised by his parents. I

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think it was his grandmother. So you're probably talking a

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woman in her seventies or eighties who certainly has no

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fault in this. And this boy was seventeen. We're not

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talking about a thirteen year old kid. So in this situation, no,

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I do not think she needs to be held responsible

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for any of that. I think she did everything she

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was supposed to do when she found out he was involved.

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You can only you can't surveil your kids twenty four

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to seven. It just cannot happen. And guess what if

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you do when they turn eighteen nineteen years old, they

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go crazy. You need to be in their business, certainly,

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But when they start getting seventeen years old, you can

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join the military, you can do all those things. At

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that point, they need to be at the point where

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they're not going to take a gun to a mall

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and shoot up a mall. That's common sense.

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And then when you have grandparents raising kids, which is

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an epidemic in this country, what happens too is we

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have an age gap. We have an issue where we have,

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like you said, to your point, sixty seventy year old

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now trying to raise a seventeen year old. And there

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is two big think of the technology gaps, think of

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the line, think about so much is different that they

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can't keep up. They're not designed to be raising kids

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that age. That's not the way of the world, that's

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not how it's supposed to work, right, you know, And

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it makes it very difficult for these people.

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programs that sit Edwards is putting together will work and

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we'll see a difference in that. I did find it

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interesting that overall nationally, I looked up this stat when

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I saw this story. Nationally overall, Oh, you would be

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surprised to know that youth crime is actually down pretty significantly. However,

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youth crime involving guns is way up. So your your

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simple breaking and enterings and you're you know, these kids

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going around getting in cars may be down, but youth

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violence involving guns is way up, and that is obviously

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something that's got to change. Hopefully the Baton Ridge mayor

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will come up with some plans to do that. But

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I do like to see that this appears to finally

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have gotten to a head with the political realm in

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the city. That's going to make a difference. Very good.

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All right, well let's move on to we're gonna stay

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in Louisiana. We're gonna go to Covington, Louisiana. But how

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do you feel whenever a long standing case where someone

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has been killed or whatever gets solved?

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Do you like that? Like does that?

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Does that? Does that do anything for you? Even though

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justice delayed kind of feels like justice denied. But finally

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it's any.

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Any solved case makes me feel good, but a cold case,

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especially even veterans, those are the ones typically given up on.

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There you got well.

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Four men have been charged with the nineteen eighty two

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rape and murder of sixteen year old rock Sand Sharp,

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after a cold case that baffled detectives for more than

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four decades was finally cracked open by a locally produced

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podcast that generated new witnesses and fresh leads. So Sharp's

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body was found on February twelfth, nineteen eighty two. And

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just for perspective, that's two years before I was born.

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That's how long got no, But like golly, that's that's

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a long time, right. And so she was found in

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a wooded area on the outskirts of Saint Tammany Parish,

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the fairgrounds. She had been reported missing for three days

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and at the point that she was found, and investigators

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after their investigation, saw that she had been raped and

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that she had been murdered, and that her body had

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then been drug into those woods. But that teenager was

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an acquaintance of several men in the neighborhood where she

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hung out. But the issue was that there was very

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little physical evidence, and then not many people were to

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cooperate in terms of being witnesses at the time, and

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so it quickly went cold. So forty years goes by,

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and the Covington Police Department and the Louisiana State Police,

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you know, they're going to go back and forth and

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revisit files, even those old ones that have been sitting

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there a long time, and re examine evidence, chase down

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new leads, things of that nature. Well, in twenty twenty three,

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the Louisiana State Police Covington Field Office, they officially took

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over this investigation. And two years later, which would have

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been twenty twenty five, the LSP Public Affairs Department, they

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approached the local radio host. His name is Charles Dowdy

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of North Shore Media Group, and they wanted to start

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a six part podcast titled Who Killed Roxam. So the

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series aired later that year, and the goal was just

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to try to jog memories of people and to try

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to encourage anyone with all this time that's passed to

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come forward. Well, the strategy worked, which is super impressive.

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People are listening to podcasts now more than ever, and

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Dowdy said that the public response surprised even their production team,

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and this is a direct quote. When we started the podcast,

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we kind of thought nobody cared, but we were quickly corrected.

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A lot of people stepped up.

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They said that they knew Roxanne, they remembered her, they

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were friends with her. So the podcast generated previously unknown information,

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new leads, and witness cooperation that investigators said helped them

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reconstruct Roxanne's final days. So that, combined with advances in

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investigative technology, the new tips allowed detectives to obtain warrants

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for four different men. Then, on April twenty first of

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twenty twenty six, a multi agency team including the Louisiana

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State Police SWAT Troop L and Covington Police, they executed

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a search warrant and arrest warrants at the home of

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Billy Williams Junior, who was sixty two of Covington. He

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was charged with aggravated rape and second degree murder, and

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then in the following days, three more men from Covington

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were arrested and charged with the same offenses. Perry Taylor,

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sixty four, Darryl Dean Spell He's also sixty four, but

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he was arrested all the way in Dayton, Ohio, and

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Carlos Cooper, also sixty four, who was guess what, already

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incarcerated on unrelated charges. So all four are facing those

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identical charges, and Louisiana State Police spokesperson Mark Grimion credited

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the podcast with breaking the long standing impasse. It was

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a very large help with getting the message out to

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the public and then the witnesses were getting back with us.

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He said.

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It helped our investigation piece together where Roxanne was before,

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all the way up to the time that she died,

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and now here we are being able to handle this.

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So Covington Police Chief Michael Farrell called the breakthrough a

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testament to what happens when dedicated law enforcement officers refuse

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to let a victim be forgotten. Cold cases don't close themselves.

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They closed because people show up year after year and

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they refuse to quit. And so the district Attorney, Colin

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Sims echoed that same sentiment, saying that these arrests reflect

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the unwavering commitment to pursue justice no matter how much

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time has passed. And thank god, Sharp's family, who has

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now waited more than forty four years for answers, may

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start getting those answers. They haven't made a public statement yet,

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but they you know, they've got to be thrilled that

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there's going to be some closure to this.

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Yeah, and I'm familiar with north Shore Media Group, very good,

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very well run podcast media company over there, obviously in

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the same realm of work that I'm in. And look,

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crowdsourcing works, attention works, especially as it relates to cold cases.

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I know three just off the top of my head

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that we're solved right here in Luisi and a Freeze Frame,

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a very popular podcast guy put together. I believe it

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was his grandmother or might have even been his mother

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was killed and they actually got the suspect based off

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of Freeze Frame podcasts, which went global worldwide real life

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for a crime, what do you Everton obviously solved the case.

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A guy's in prison for the rest of his life

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based off of Woody's work with that particular Casetney Jortney

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Cocoa case, you know. So it became so big that

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that Dayline NBC came down and did a two hour

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special on that particular case. So that stuff works, and

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that's why it's so important. There are people, there are

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podcasts that specialize in cold cases. They really do a

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good job of just covering cold cases, and you don't

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have to work them necessarily. You can. You can just

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bring attention in awareness and then mention a tip line

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maybe crime stoppers something like that, and say, if you

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know any information, reach out, or if they don't want

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to reach out to the police, reach out to the

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podcast host and and you know, just that right there

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will help for sure.

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Look these quality productions. I know I've recently you and

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I were together somewhere in a court of law where

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podcasts were being kind of poo pooed by some people

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in some powerful positions. But the reality is that if

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you are looking at quality production and people who take

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it seriously and who are doing the research and all

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of the things required of this, it doesn't take a

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badge to be able to, like you said, get crowdsourcing

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to get people thinking, to get people talking, And sometimes

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you just have to have the right person in the

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right place with the right crowd reach.

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And in this case, it.

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Worked, there's no doubt about it. And you know, sometimes

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egos will get involved, and I think, I think when

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you have a cold case that's ten years old, fifteen

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years old or longer and there's just no leads, it's

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gotten so cold. They're not even technically working in anymore.

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It's just kind of in a file. You need all

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the help you can get. I don't. I think has

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to go completely out of the door. And if you've

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got a podcast interested in featuring that case, and you

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are a law enforcement entity, I think you take that

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and you say hell yeah, and we'll sit down and

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talk to you about the case and we'll be glad

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to share the information that we have. What do you

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have to lose? Every year that that case goes unsolved,

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it increases the likelihood it will never be solved. So

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take all the help you can get from law enforcement perspective.

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And some sheriffs and other law enforcement professionals are really

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good about that. Some let their ego totally get in

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the way and say no, I'm going to solve this,

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and I'll feel like it was egg on my face.

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If a podcast or comes in there features a story

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and the case gets solved's not the case. Tips matter

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And sometimes people decide, you know what, I'm ready to

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talk and the only thing that took that was featuring

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that particular case on a podcast.

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And time changes everything. So the more time that passes,

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people get older, they start having their own kids. Let's

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say they were teenagers when something went you know, went bad.

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They get older and they realize, oh my god, this

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was somebody's kid. You know, I'm saying, perspectives change, so

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time can be the difference. Right, that's awesome.

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All right, Let's go to Hillsboro, Oregon, and I'm gonna

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tell you about a twenty three year old man from

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Washington County in Oregon who is accused of praying on

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more than one hundred women and teenage girls over five years.

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So when he started this, y'all, he was eighteen. Okay.

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He basically had kind of a scheme going on, and

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if I still had a kinky crime segment of it,

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this would definitely be part of it. But he would

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approach these women and his name, incidentally was Cedric Valdez.

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He would approach these women and teenage girls and he

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would say, look, I am from a massage or I'm

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going to massage school and I want to practice massage

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your feet. You can't make that shit up. So he

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would do this in different shopping centers. When he got arrested,

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it was actually in January of twenty twenty six, and

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he was arrested inside of a target, approaching women and

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telling them he was a student and he needed some

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help with his work assignment at school or in school assignment.

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So once alone with the victims, he would actually ask them, okay,

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can we go to your vehicle? And they would go

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to the vehicle and they would remove their shoes, they

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would remove their socks or maybe they had heels on.

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They'd take their heels off, and he would just give

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them a foot massage. But he took it a little further. Okay,

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that's one thing that's strange in and of itself, but

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he would take it further. He would then start smelling, kissing,

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and licking their feet without their consent. Yeah, they didn't

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tell him you can get a little toasuck in there.

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He would just do it in your face.

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You licked my foot?

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Yes. Prosecutors also said he photographed and videotaped many of

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the encounters under the presumption that hey, they're not you know,

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this is for a school assignment, and I got to

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show proof that I was sucking your toes for school.

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So more laughing. I'm just like shocked.

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So more than one hundred victims have come forward. Now

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they range in age from fourteen to forty seven. So

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you know, it's a little more serious than we're making

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it out to be. I mean, some of these were

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obviously kids. Thirteen of them, as a matter of fact,

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were at least miners, and court records indicate that he

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admitted to investigators that he had a sexual attraction defeat

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and carried out the scheme for approximately five years. He

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pretended now to be a miner himself. And if you're

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watching the video version of this, he does kind of

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look like a kid. Dude, dude's got some hair.

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He looks like a mushrooming curly like mine, a bald

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headed man.

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I'm like, damn, he's got a good head of hair.

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He may not style it the way I would, but anyway.

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He's currently facing forty one criminal charges, including multiple counts

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of third degree se abuse, sex harassment, and practicing massage

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therapy without a license. That seems like the minor charge

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in this case. He also has an active warrant in Fresno,

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California related to the same alleged conduct. So he's got

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a problem. He's a serial foot massage ye. A Washington

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County judge has set the bail at ten thousand dollars,

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which is nothing. You only have to pay twelve percent

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of that, and that includes house arrested and GPS monitoring.

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But he does remain in custody as a mid April

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after failing to postpond, so he's having trouble coming up.

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His parents must have said, you staying in jail foot

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fetish man. Yeah, this is yeah. But to me, the

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whole cusp of this thing is it's almost unbelievable that

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over one hundred people would allow this cat to massage

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their feet inside their car. I would, you know, if

467
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.359
I'm him, I'd be scared to approach one person, and

468
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:58.839
I certainly wouldn't think they'd be like, hell, yeah, you

469
00:25:58.880 --> 00:25:59.960
can massage my feet.

470
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:01.880
But they was, yeah, Well.

471
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:05.400
This is the thing that is an absolute rapist in

472
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.960
the making. You can't convince me otherwise. First of all,

473
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:13.039
the predatory behavior of actively going in public places and

474
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:17.680
seeking out victims, that behavior cannot be overlooked. You're going

475
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:20.720
out with the with the absolute premise of finding someone

476
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.640
that you can con into something that you were looking

477
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.160
at as sexual and they don't have a clue, which

478
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.000
is part of that predatory.

479
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.000
Well started licking their feet.

480
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:34.480
Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you this assignment. No, and

481
00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.559
look the shock. Okay, we're in the South. I know

482
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:39.440
everybody listen is not in the South, but I have

483
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:42.000
I tell my well, when I was teaching, I always

484
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.799
told my girls this, my students, we have been raised,

485
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.119
at least in the South, to be kind and to

486
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:50.480
be nice and to be polite. However, there is a

487
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:52.759
time and a place, and what happens is we get

488
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.240
put in positions where we can't believe sometimes that that

489
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.680
something is happening, and we don't want to be rude,

490
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.160
even when it's something like this. But there's a psychology

491
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:05.839
behind it, because what happens is the predator in this case,

492
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:09.039
this guy. The psychology behind it is that he has

493
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:12.079
gotten them to agree in the initial phase of it,

494
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.880
to let the footbe massage. So in part of this,

495
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.039
it makes the victim feel bad because they're like, oh

496
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:17.440
my god.

497
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:18.680
I agree to this. I wanted this.

498
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.119
Obviously they did not want what happened, but that's that's

499
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.960
kind of how it gets played out, and it played

500
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:24.759
it messes.

501
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:25.440
With the person's head.

502
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:30.160
So there's also when he's willing to pretend to be

503
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:34.599
younger than he is to get his victims. That's part

504
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.359
of the grooming process in and of itself. So off

505
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.039
the top, and know we're laughing and making light of it,

506
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:42.279
but this is actually much more dangerous in the beginning

507
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.880
steps than I think a lot of people would would

508
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:46.960
would realize.

509
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:50.200
Well, first of all, they weren't in the South, they

510
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:51.200
were in org No.

511
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.279
But I'm saying.

512
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.319
Apparently that trust him too, and and you didn't know

513
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:57.920
what to say.

514
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.839
Yeah, But I'm just saying from I perspected down here,

515
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:02.599
like I wouldn't want to be rude to somebody because

516
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.240
I've been raised that way, but there's a time you

517
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:06.000
need to be rude, and that would have been Yeah.

518
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.200
I'm thinking you're not gonna say, yeah, he can massage mine.

519
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:08.440
I'm not.

520
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:13.240
No, but Son Bell are not you know.

521
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:14.759
But I've had a kid come up to my house

522
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.000
before this pissed me off. To kid came up to

523
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.119
my house and said he was selling stuff for school,

524
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.680
and he was kind of disheveled and all that. But

525
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:24.880
I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he

526
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:26.480
said he was just trying to raise money for his

527
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.000
football team. And I bought some baseball caps off of him,

528
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.000
and it turned out he wasn't even affiliated with the school,

529
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.000
So I know it's a little different. It's not a massage.

530
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.160
But people do things in dupe, will do people. And

531
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:37.799
because you have a heart and you're wanting to try

532
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:39.880
to help someone, maybe he doesn't have good social skills.

533
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:41.519
I don't know, and they were willing to just do it.

534
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:43.960
But the victims here, right, he must have some pretty

535
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.400
good social skills to convince a hundred people to do that.

536
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.880
And then are fourteen surprised some are little.

537
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.519
Yeah, third, well, thirteen of the victims were minors. Yeah,

538
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:55.720
as young as fourteen.

539
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.599
Yeah, I'm just this seems much more dangerous in my

540
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:01.480
mind than and it looks like off the customers just

541
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:02.759
at ten thousand dollars bond.

542
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.799
I don't know that's but all you can do is

543
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:05.880
what the law allows.

544
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.799
Yeah, so go ahead.

545
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.440
Sorry, No, I'm good. I was gonna move on unless

546
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:16.480
you had something. You're allowed to breathe. Breathing is all right,

547
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:17.920
guess what segment it is?

548
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:19.279
I don't know.

549
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:20.720
Foolish felons.

550
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.519
All right, let's get into today.

551
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:25.680
So we're gonna go to West Palm Beach, Florida.

552
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:27.799
I know why you give me the foolish felons ones

553
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:28.920
because you don't want me to be able to go

554
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:30.960
back at you and go so foolish.

555
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:31.480
Because you hate it when I.

556
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:32.359
That's your segment.

557
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:33.319
Okay.

558
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.839
A routine request for water cups at a Taco Bell

559
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.200
restaurant spiraled into a gunfight.

560
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:41.200
This was on Monday, when.

561
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:45.000
A twenty year old employee allegedly shot at three female

562
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.799
customers after one try to fill a complimentary water cup

563
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:53.400
with soda. Tell me real quick, Jim, does this seem

564
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:54.839
to align with the fact that we have a lot

565
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:59.319
of people with guns that have no concept of conflict resolution?

566
00:29:59.640 --> 00:29:59.880
Right?

567
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:00.920
Okay?

568
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:01.960
Yeah?

569
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.160
Damari Jai Kwan Patterson was arrested and charged with three

570
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.759
counts of aggravated assault with a firearm following the chaotic

571
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:11.720
confrontation at the Taco Bell. This is all according to

572
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.319
the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. So this all took

573
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.960
place at lunchtime when three women went into the restaurant

574
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.319
and they asked for cups of water. One of the

575
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:23.440
customers then used her water cup and put a soda

576
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.599
fountain drink in it instead of water, which prompted Patterson,

577
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.200
who was working behind the counter to confront them, so

578
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.960
this verbal argument quickly escalated, and of course people whipped

579
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:35.319
out cell phones and started filming like they do, and

580
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:39.799
it captured Patterson yelling at these women, and then moments later,

581
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.599
the sound of a gun being racked is audible in

582
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.960
the recording, and then the gunshots start being fired inside

583
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:46.759
the dining area.

584
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:48.599
One woman was struck by.

585
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.599
A bullet she collapses to the floor, and then a

586
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.440
second one suffered a grayz wound, while the third one

587
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.319
just hauled ass and ran out the exit. So Patterson

588
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.119
allegedly pursued the third woman outside and fired another shot

589
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.799
at her, but missed and it shattered the window near

590
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.440
the entrance whenever he was chasing her. So all three

591
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.480
customers sustained minor injuries and drove themselves to a local

592
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.200
hospital for treatment, and they are all expected to fully

593
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:17.359
recover and no one else was seriously hurt. No weapons

594
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.720
were found on the victims either, so after the shooting,

595
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.599
Patterson called nine one one himself and admitted to firing

596
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.359
the weapon. He even told the police where the gun was,

597
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.119
that he had it hidden in the restaurant's management office.

598
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.680
He later then said, well, look this was self defense,

599
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:35.720
and told the investigators that he thought the customers were

600
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.799
armed and that one had jumped behind the counter at him. However,

601
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:44.119
the pesky surveillance footage from the business itself would show

602
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.680
that that just wasn't the case, that it didn't happen,

603
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.240
so Patterson was arrested. He did make his first court

604
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.359
appearance Tuesday. He's being held on a total of seventy

605
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.240
five thousand dollars bond, according to the jail records, and

606
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.160
the case is being reviewed by the State Attorney's office.

607
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.799
The Taco Bell location did remain open Tuesday, though the

608
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.519
shattered window had been boarded up.

609
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.480
A couple thoughts on this one. I can't believe the

610
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.440
Taco Bell location remained open after you have three people

611
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:14.759
get you know, three bullets flying and some people getting

612
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:20.240
shot at one getting shot. Hey, people need their chiloopas

613
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:24.880
I guess. But I'm gonna say this number one perfect,

614
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.839
perfect article for foolish felons, because how dumb do you

615
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.599
have to be to literally do what this guy just

616
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:37.519
did over someone filling up an ice cup full of soda.

617
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.759
I'm sure that pisses everybody off. You need to pay

618
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.839
for your freaking soda and not lying. Say you're getting water,

619
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:48.079
but it's not worth I mean, this guy's got an

620
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.759
issue here. I don't know what the charge was. You

621
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:53.680
didn't say the charge. I don't know if it was

622
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:58.039
in the article. But whatever the charge is, it's pretty

623
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:02.240
serious because of the bond amount. So this guy has

624
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:08.440
practically ruined his life over this, at least, you know, momentarily,

625
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:10.359
and it's all over.

626
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.200
Well, No, he was given the three the three counts

627
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:14.440
of aggravated assault.

628
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.240
I can't believe he didn't get an attempted murder.

629
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.000
He shot a woman, right, but three three counts of

630
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:21.359
aggravated assault.

631
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:22.960
Didn't actually shoot the woman.

632
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.359
Yet, said it struck her and she fell to the floor. Okay,

633
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:28.440
well then unless that's unless that's misinformation. I mean, this

634
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.160
is what we have at the time of you.

635
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.640
Know, misinformation. It's it is what it is.

636
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:38.640
But yeah, I don't understand those charges because if you

637
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:41.160
shoot me, you tried to kill me as far as

638
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.839
I'm concerned. So aggravated assault with firearms seems kind of

639
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.039
kind of low, I would think. But you know, because

640
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.519
they could have played they could have lowered those charges

641
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:51.039
or pulled them down but this is the deal. When

642
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:52.960
it's all when it's all said done, thankfully, all three

643
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.680
women are okay. So again here we go an absolute

644
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.599
another case of somebody that's got anger issue that they

645
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.599
do not have any conflict management whatsoever except to brandish

646
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.680
a weapon to try to solve it. And when this

647
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.320
is what you're willing to shoot over, When this is

648
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:11.920
what you're willing to shoot over, whether it's disrespect for them,

649
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.360
mouthing back off at you, or getting the drink, whatever

650
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.199
it was that set him off, then it's only a

651
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:18.880
matter of time before he will kill somebody, you know,

652
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.719
because you can't. If that is acceptable behavior for conflict

653
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.159
resolution at work, then I would be very fearful. That's

654
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.480
why his bond is so high at seventy five thousand dollars.

655
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.920
I would assume because they don't want they got to

656
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:32.800
mitigate this. I hope that they'll give him sentencing to

657
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.480
like anger management programs or something.

658
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.119
All right, let's go to Miami, Florida, and a former

659
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:41.519
home Depot store manager Miami Dade County has been arrested

660
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:45.760
after authority say he orchestrated a massive discount scheme. Now

661
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.679
this cost home Depot more than four million dollars over

662
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.119
nearly two and a half years. A guy by the

663
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.880
name of Mauricio Jeminaz, who is forty eight, was taken

664
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:59.519
into custody at the Home Depot store that he managed.

665
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.519
He's facing felony charges of organized fraud and first degree

666
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:07.760
grand theft. Now, according to the Miami Dad Police Department,

667
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:12.320
Jeminas issued more than forty five hundred unauthorized discounts and

668
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.639
deep marked downs to repeated customers and businesses between December

669
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.960
of twenty twenty three and April of twenty twenty six.

670
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.760
The fraudulent price adjustments involved get this, roughly fifty five

671
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:28.679
million dollars worth of merchandise and this is the part

672
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.559
that blew my mind, created a negative sales margin of

673
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:36.880
approximately four point three million dollars for Home Depot. Investigators

674
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:40.199
say the scheme came to light during an internal audit

675
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.920
that flagged unusually large, high volume marked downs at the

676
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.280
store where Jeminez worked. As a manager. He had the

677
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:51.599
authority to approved price adjustments and access internal sales and

678
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.840
in the dory systems. Prosecutors alleged you by offering the

679
00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:01.800
steep unauthorized discounts Jeminas artificially in related sales figures, which

680
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.079
turned into basically performance bonuses for him. His attorneys told

681
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:10.360
the court that the client did not directly profit or

682
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.639
receive any personal kickbacks from the customers who received the discounts.

683
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.880
He's been released on a man another low bond fifteen

684
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.119
thousand dollars, with the condition he have no contact with

685
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.800
home Depot properties, and Home Depot has not issued a

686
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:25.960
statement on the arrest.

687
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:27.599
I don't think I can agree with the fact that

688
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:29.960
he didn't profit. I mean, I know it says directly

689
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.719
from the customers, but he did through the customer's profit,

690
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.360
because the performance bonuses would be the profit. And when

691
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.320
I was listening to this, it made me think back

692
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.519
when I was a teenager. I had a boss that

693
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.519
did this exact same thing. I didn't know what was

694
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.559
going on because I didn't understand the system until I

695
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:49.559
got older, but she would do the same thing. She

696
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:53.719
would inflate sales and give a discount on the enrollment

697
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.719
fee for what the person was purchasing, and then in essence,

698
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:57.760
that looked like she sold more.

699
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.880
Thus she got a higher percent on our paycheck.

700
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:03.960
So I mean, I don't know. I guess you know,

701
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:05.760
the customers aren't a fault here. I mean, if he's

702
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.639
willing to give it out, then that's all on him.

703
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:09.320
But that's a ton of money to pay back. I

704
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:10.440
don't know how he could ever do that.

705
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.719
Yeah, and look, if I have any experience in anything,

706
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:19.320
it's that field I was in. I was a retail

707
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.840
regional sales manager for a large paint cutings manufacturer for

708
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:28.159
twenty years of most and I can tell you exactly

709
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.039
that this happens. You know, it's interesting. I also had

710
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:35.719
authority to discount things. And it's one thing when you

711
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.960
have a friend and I'll use myself as an example,

712
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.639
and they're painting their house and they're going to go

713
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.719
Searn Williams or they're going to go to home Depot

714
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:46.639
to buy that paint, and I'm like, dude, you need

715
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:49.159
to buy that from me. I can save you money.

716
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:51.880
And maybe in order to get their business, I cut

717
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.920
them to discount. I have the authority to do that.

718
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.440
There's nothing wrong with that. The issue is when you're

719
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:03.159
offering unauthorized discounts. So he had the authority to authorize him,

720
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.880
but he was just giving them to inflate his own

721
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.880
sales figure. So his bonuses were based off of the

722
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.480
amount of building materials that he sold. But he did

723
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.440
it to such a frequency that it actually caused Home

724
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.840
Depot to go in a deficit. That's crazy, that is insane.

725
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.960
So on one end of the spectrum, these powers that

726
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.480
be at Home Depot are looking at a sales report

727
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.679
and they're seeing, Wow, this guy is just selling the

728
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.880
heck out of two by fours, but we're not making

729
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:37.199
any money, and we've got a forty percent margin built

730
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.880
into this and we've got a negative four point three

731
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.760
percent deficit. And it's because this guy was marking everything

732
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:48.559
down over time to an extent that actually caused them

733
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:51.920
to lose money. He absolutely did profit on it, because

734
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:55.239
your bonus is where the majority of your money is

735
00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:00.239
made in that business, and so he was taking into

736
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.000
the bank. What they're saying he wasn't doing, his attorney

737
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.679
was he wasn't doing what we used to call selling

738
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.280
the paint out the side door. So he wasn't taking

739
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:12.760
two by fours and going up to a contractor and saying, look,

740
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.880
if you give me fifty dollars cash, i'll give you

741
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.920
these two by fours. He wasn't doing that because in

742
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.800
his mind, I'm sure he justified it as well. That's stealing,

743
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:25.679
but I have the authority to give discounts and said,

744
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.920
that's what I'm doing. It's the same thing. It's just

745
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.239
a different way of approaching it. Yeah, it's all theft.

746
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.519
It's all theft. And that ain't cool.

747
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:35.519
That's huge, Mark, that's a ton of money. That's not

748
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.079
you know, one hundred bucks here, that's crazy.

749
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.000
It caused him to go into a deficit. That's insane.

750
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.760
One man takes down a home depot, that's wild.

751
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.039
Yeah, you know, and went four years before. You know,

752
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.039
if I was home depot, I would look into some

753
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.599
of his higher ups because it took four years to

754
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:52.679
catch that. Yeah, that's wild.

755
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.920
Yeah, some people are going to get some some chastise

756
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.719
and over that. All right, let's go to Phoenix, Arizona.

757
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.639
So a Fresno, California bride's dream wedding turned into a

758
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.840
legal nightmare when she was arrested for dui the day

759
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:11.079
after her ceremony, despite blowing a perfect zero point zero

760
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.320
zero on a breathalyzer and later testing negative for alcohol

761
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.880
and drugs in her blood. According to a federal lawsuit,

762
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.239
now Brianna Longorio, who was an aspiring nurse, had just

763
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.719
gotten married in Arizona. This was on December the twenty

764
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.599
eighth of twenty four so her seriously ill father could

765
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.360
attend the ceremony. Is why she was getting married at

766
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.480
that time. Now, the following evening, December the twenty ninth,

767
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.320
she was in a rental card that she was driving

768
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.599
with her new husband and they were in Phoenix and she.

769
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:39.400
Got pulled over.

770
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.159
So officers claimed that they pulled her over because she

771
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.719
ran a red light, but body camera footage obtained by

772
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.599
her legal team allegedly shows that the stop was fabricated.

773
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.960
So Longoria performed a field sobriety test and then blew

774
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.360
triple zeros on a preliminary breathalyzer. Bodycam audio captured an

775
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:01.400
officer remarking, quote, triple zeros like I thought before. She

776
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.960
was nevertheless handcuffed and arrested in suspicion of dui, reportedly

777
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.079
based on suspected marijuana impairment. So blood samples drawn after

778
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.840
her arrest were later tested and returned completely negative for

779
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.760
alcohol and all drugs. Criminal charges were eventually dropped, but

780
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:19.840
Longoria says that the damage had already been done because

781
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.880
her driver's license was suspended, part of her honeymoon was ruined,

782
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:26.039
and then her cancer treatments were delayed, and then her

783
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:31.800
nursing career aspirations suffered lasting setbacks. So she filed a

784
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.760
federal lawsuit in December of twenty five against the City

785
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:38.360
of Phoenix and two Phoenix police officers, alleging that the

786
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.679
arrest was unconstitutional, and she's saying that it's part of

787
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.920
an alleged pattern of manufacturing dui cases to meet unofficial

788
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:51.360
arrest quotas. So BODYCM recordings reportedly include officers discussing pressure

789
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:55.599
to secure dui rests to remain on specialized squads. The

790
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:58.079
City of Phoenix and the Phoenix Police Department have denied

791
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.039
the existence of any dui rest quote, and they say

792
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.880
that enforcement decisions are based on the observed behavior and

793
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:08.559
the totality of those circumstances. Longoria is seeking millions of

794
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.840
dollars in damages, policy reforms within the department, and she

795
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.880
wants to have her arrest fully expunged from her record,

796
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.800
and the case still remains pending in federal court.

797
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:25.079
Yeah, look, this is a situation where EGO definitely got

798
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.639
in the way, and I've seen on YouTube some of

799
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.800
these stops where someone is completely sober, they're not showing

800
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.320
signs of being drunk, but the officer gets pissed and

801
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.679
he basically says, well, I need you to do the

802
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.760
field sobriety. And if you've ever seen these field sobriety tests,

803
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.559
they're not easy to do sober. And part of me

804
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:51.400
believes that that is really just kind of a dog

805
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.800
and penny show, and if they think you've been drinking

806
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.000
or drugging, it doesn't matter if you're doing perfect or not.

807
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.320
They're still going to move on to the next step,

808
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.000
which is as well, you're exhibiting signs of because you

809
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.280
couldn't count from g to or you couldn't count from

810
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:10.039
twenty seven to twenty four without skipping twenty five or

811
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.920
whatever stupid tests that they give. The majority of those.

812
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:18.199
I'm sorry, you know, walking a straight line is not

813
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:19.880
easy period.

814
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:23.000
Yeah, but so I kind of differ a bit on

815
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.760
this one, but they as far as that part.

816
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:28.840
Because really you could do those test saber.

817
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.360
Yeah, all of them. Yeah.

818
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:35.000
The thing please, no, no, no, listen, It's not about

819
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:36.159
getting it perfect though.

820
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.719
It's totality of circumstance, like you said, and.

821
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:42.320
So so if you totally of the circumstance, he thought

822
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:43.960
she was drunk, she didn't have a thing.

823
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.360
In her, that means that he needs to be reckoned with.

824
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:48.920
I absolutely agree with that. So there's parts of this

825
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.360
that I agree with her. Number one, I agree to

826
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:57.039
the damages that you know that she's got to get

827
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.440
this taken off of her record, and at minimum to

828
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.079
even get a record exponged, even do the application to

829
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.639
get the record exponged is a minimum of two hundred

830
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.639
and fifty dollars in Louisiana, and it's way more expensive

831
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:07.880
than that.

832
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:09.000
That's just for the application.

833
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.159
What I this should absolutely just be taken off of

834
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.880
her record. And I think that this These officers do

835
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:20.400
need to be talked to, you know, they need to

836
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.599
be trained better. As far as you can't be that wrong,

837
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.719
you can't be that wrong on this. So let's say

838
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.280
she blew all zeros. Okay, well, then maybe they which

839
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:30.039
is what he thought.

840
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.320
But yet he made her blow into the.

841
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.119
So when he says that's well, when he says that's

842
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.559
what I thought, I'm wondering if that was beca because

843
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.559
I haven't seen the video, but I'm wondering if that

844
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:42.480
was because Okay, yeah, she's gonna blow zero because.

845
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:43.159
I don't think it's alcohol.

846
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:47.039
I think that it's I think that it's another intoxicant.

847
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.599
But she may just work that's wrong, very wrong, very wrong.

848
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.119
And so the issue here I don't think. I don't

849
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.599
find so if the arrest was fabricated or the stop

850
00:44:56.679 --> 00:45:01.400
was fabricated, we have a huge issue. If the arrest

851
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.360
was made under and they're able to articulate why they

852
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:06.480
thought she was under the influence that I don't think

853
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:08.559
there's going to be an argument with because she gets

854
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.679
to have her day in court, and because they're able

855
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.920
to prove that that was not the case and she's released.

856
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.000
What is going to be a problem.

857
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.639
Though, is that I don't think it fair that that

858
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.960
stay on her record if it is completely and totally

859
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.599
because her nurse, I agree with her on parts of this.

860
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:26.599
I just think that the field sobriety test, if you're

861
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.519
drunk drunk, it's very obvious on a field sobriety test

862
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.400
when you fail it percent. So I don't think it's

863
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.400
about getting it completely accurate. Things like nastagmus and things

864
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.719
that your body can't fake. You know, some people can

865
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.079
be drunk and you won't know it and they could

866
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:42.599
get away with it.

867
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.199
But nastagmus, they can't. They can't. Your body can't fight

868
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:45.960
that with your eyes.

869
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.719
So I do believe in the field sobriety test, but

870
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.119
I don't think it by itself is a conclusive enough

871
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.239
thing to hold a conviction on, you know what I mean?

872
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.000
Yeah, And the reason I have such an issue with

873
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.320
this is this is, you know, I know a lot

874
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:06.159
of great cops, and great cops don't like this shit either,

875
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.519
because what this does is it makes all cops look bad,

876
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.199
and this is what puts a bad taste in the

877
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:17.400
public's mouth about police officers. She had no drugs in

878
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.960
her system, no alcohol, so she was not exhibiting signs.

879
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.840
There was no signs because she had nothing in her system.

880
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.920
Either way, this guy, she'd get married the next day.

881
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.880
But we're wardless of that. These people took her to

882
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:36.639
jail for that for nothing.

883
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.079
Yeah, I agree, ridiculous.

884
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:40.599
I hope she gets a million dollars.

885
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:44.280
I hope that they released the report that was written.

886
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:45.559
I would want to see that, I really would. I

887
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:47.679
would want to see the report of what this officer wrote,

888
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.199
were the signs that were being exhibited that would make

889
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.960
her think that she was under the influence, because they're

890
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.719
either going to be flagrantly off off based on yeah,

891
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.639
off of it. But you know, sometimes too, and I'm

892
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:03.239
not given the I am on the side of this woman.

893
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:06.280
She had nothing in her system. But I'm saying, sometimes too,

894
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.599
people are I've seen people having medical issues that were

895
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:11.880
thought to be that they were intoxicated, and we were

896
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.440
completely wrong. But because of the behaviors they were exhibiting,

897
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.320
it looked like intoxication. So I'm saying, mistakes can be

898
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.480
made if your heart is in the right place.

899
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.679
But it does not seem like it's that tell right,

900
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:23.400
it doesn't.

901
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:24.760
Be the officer I got a bad knee.

902
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:26.840
No, no, no, I'm talking about I've seen people in

903
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:32.159
diabetic distress and it absolutely came across as drunk driving. Absolutely,

904
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.559
and they're in uh like keto acid or they're in

905
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.360
a diabetic state.

906
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:38.840
Right, But that wasn't the cause.

907
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.840
That wasn't the case here so well.

908
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.159
But I'm saying, if you are a good cop and

909
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.719
you have good intentions, you can still make mistakes. But

910
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.039
this one looks like they fabricated the stop and then

911
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.199
fabricated the evidence based on what we see here.

912
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.320
Yeah, and not apparently quote unquote quote is yeah that's crazy.

913
00:47:58.480 --> 00:47:59.800
So yeah, not cool at all.

914
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.519
All right. I got an update here from a story

915
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.880
we covered. It's only been about three four weeks ago,

916
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:09.280
but Floyd William Parrot, who was sixty four, the man

917
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.920
charged with the capitol murder with capital murder in one

918
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.480
of Houston's most notorious cold cases, which was the nineteen

919
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:20.440
ninety Lover's Lane killings. He was recently arrested while he

920
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:25.000
was found dead Tuesday morning and the Nebraska jail cell

921
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:29.920
while waiting extradition to Texas. Parrot was discovered unresponsive in

922
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:35.840
his cell in Lincoln, Nebraska. According to the Lancaster Sheriff's Office,

923
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:41.480
correctional officer staff performed life saving measures until the paramedics arrived.

924
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:44.840
Buddy was pronounced dead on the scene, and the district

925
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.519
attorney said his death appears to be a homicide, though

926
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:51.960
no official cause of death has been released, you know

927
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.960
penning an autopsy. Parrot was arrested, if you'll remember, March

928
00:48:56.039 --> 00:49:00.239
twenty fifth in Lincoln by Houston Police Department officer in

929
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.440
the FBI, and he was charged in the capital murder

930
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.920
for capital murder and the brutal slayings of Sheryl Henry

931
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.760
who was twenty two and Garland Andrew Atkinson, who was

932
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:14.440
twenty one. The couple was lasting live after meeting at

933
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:19.159
by You Mama's nightclub in Houston. So he gets arrested

934
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:24.639
after a DNA breakthrough basically linked him to that particular

935
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.960
crime scene. And following that arrest, a lot of other

936
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:33.840
victims came forward, survivors and they were alleging assaults by parent.

937
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:38.960
So the district attorney was quoted as saying he thought

938
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.239
he could outrun the truth. He thought Tom would erase

939
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:46.480
his past, but prosecutors and investigators never stopped working the

940
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.960
lover's laying cold case. He also said that he keeps

941
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:54.360
the memory of Andy and Cheryl at the center of work.

942
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.119
And this is a case that proves that cold cases,

943
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.800
in those situations you should never give up. But he

944
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:08.599
has apparently committed suicide, and I guess that tells everyone

945
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.039
that the right guy was in jail.

946
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.199
Yeah, I mean, the DNA don't lie you hear that

947
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.400
a bunch, So if they had the DNA, they had

948
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:16.039
him dead.

949
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:16.559
To rights.

950
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:19.400
I know they listed as a homicide, but just a

951
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.159
reminder that just means unnatural death. So suicide is a

952
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:27.760
cause of death as well on a report or a

953
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.960
manner of death. So that's kind of that'll be interesting

954
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.920
to see what happened there. But what's poignant here too

955
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:37.760
is that more victims or potential victims came forward after

956
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.840
his arrest. And so think of the fear you must

957
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:43.199
have instilled in people that they weren't even willing to

958
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.400
come forward until they knew that you were locked down

959
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:46.960
and unable to.

960
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:48.760
Or maybe they didn't know who you were, but they

961
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:49.679
weren' gonize your faith.

962
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:51.320
That's true too, that's true too.

963
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:53.800
But that much time to have passed and then more

964
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.559
people are coming forward. God knows how many people this

965
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.920
man has affected and then killed, is what it looks.

966
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.480
It looks like. So you know, I don't have much

967
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:04.440
love lost on that one.

968
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.920
What was the family robbed of justice?

969
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.840
I guess I would have to leave that thought process

970
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.280
up to the family on this one, because he didn't

971
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.480
they didn't get their day in court. However, just because

972
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.760
he's dead doesn't mean his DNA won't necessarily tie him

973
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:27.119
to these deaths and so hopefully with him dead, they

974
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.280
probably won't care about that part, but hopefully there can

975
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:33.039
be an official statement where he is listed finally as

976
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:35.159
the person responsible for their deaths, and I think that

977
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.280
would mean a lot to the family, right if the

978
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.280
DNA comes back, you know.

979
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:39.760
Yep?

980
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.159
All right, So we're going to go to Omaha, Nebraska,

981
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:48.039
where Laverne Scott, sixty five years old, a registered sex

982
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:51.239
offender with a criminal history dating back nearly forty years,

983
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:53.880
was arrested after Omaha police say he broke into an

984
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:57.480
apartment stripped naked, and then he climbed into bed with

985
00:51:57.519 --> 00:51:59.719
a sleeping nine year old boy.

986
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:01.360
So officers responded.

987
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.880
This was about one am to an apartment near thirteenth

988
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:08.119
and Levenworth, and they were originally going on reports of

989
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:10.920
a burglary, but there was also this child abuse element

990
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.719
because the residents told the investigators that he entered through

991
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.679
an unlocked front door, took off his clothes inside of

992
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.239
the home, and then crawled in bed with the child.

993
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:23.159
So the child woke up began screaming, and so Scott

994
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.800
allegedly then grabbed the child, pinned him down and wasn't

995
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:30.039
letting him up, but the child's grandfather rushed into the

996
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.719
room found Scott standing at the foot of the bed

997
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.679
at that point holding a bottle of water and a

998
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:40.000
bottle of lotion which gives me the freaking heavy gebies,

999
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.280
but the grandfather then they worded it as escorted him

1000
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:47.320
out of the home. Officers later located Scott nearby after

1001
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:50.119
he allegedly entered an Airbnb unit and claimed it was

1002
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.519
his residence. He was arrested, and he was only wearing

1003
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.800
socks whenever they put the cuffs on him. Now, Scott

1004
00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:00.199
goes by the nickname Cookie Monster and Cookie x Well.

1005
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:05.679
He is facing charges including attempted class two felony sexual assault, burglary,

1006
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:08.440
and failure to register as a sex offender. The judge

1007
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.079
set his bond appropriately at one point twenty five million

1008
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:13.519
during his first court appearance, which was Monday, and his

1009
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:17.599
preliminary hearing is scheduled for June the first Now, court

1010
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.559
records show that Scott has been on Nebraska's sex offender

1011
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:24.000
registry list since nineteen eighty seven, after a conviction for

1012
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:26.880
first gree sexual assault, which was in Douglas County. He

1013
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.239
was convicted again in ninety nine of attempted first degree

1014
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.159
sexual assault in Madison County, and in the nearly four

1015
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:38.119
decades since his initial registration requirements, he's been convicted at

1016
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:41.559
least four times for violating sex offender registry requirements, and

1017
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:44.079
most recently that was in twenty twenty four. He also

1018
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:48.440
has prior convictions for indecent exposure and trespassing. So no

1019
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:50.960
more details have been released at this time because they're

1020
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:53.719
citing the ongoing investigation and the age of the victim.

1021
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:58.000
Thank god, the child was not physically hurt during this incident.

1022
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.679
Yeah, so if you're sixty five years old and you

1023
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:05.199
go by the name Cookie Monster, you're probably a sex offender.

1024
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:06.440
I would agree.

1025
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.760
I would say either that or you look like Cookie Monster.

1026
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:15.760
Scariest af you know. And also, I hope they never

1027
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:19.440
release this guy. He doesn't ever need to be released.

1028
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:21.960
Sixty five years old and you're breaking into a house

1029
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.079
nude and climbing into bed with.

1030
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.119
A nine year old boy, he's lucky, he's a lot.

1031
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.000
I hope he never gets released.

1032
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:30.920
The first thing that caught my eye here, I'm surprised

1033
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:33.079
you didn't say something about it was his name is

1034
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:36.079
Laverne Scott, and we have a serial killer in Louisiana.

1035
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:37.119
That's Scott Laverne.

1036
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:39.840
So the name here is kind of was interesting to

1037
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.840
me that, you know, criminally, but let's talk for a

1038
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:47.719
second here. There has got to be some type of

1039
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.639
law adjustment here that I think that sex offenders of

1040
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.119
this capacity right here, specifically that there needs to be

1041
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.559
an element of this under that habitual offender charge that

1042
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.559
we have because people can sell dope of certain quantities

1043
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.880
and charge you know, charge values where they go to

1044
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:06.039
prison for the rest of their life, no questions asked,

1045
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:07.400
and that's over selling dope.

1046
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:08.360
We've got a guy.

1047
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:13.000
Here who is clearly a predator, a problem, and someone

1048
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:17.079
that does not learn from any type of registration here.

1049
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:19.320
So I looked up the laws because I was curious

1050
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.559
about how he was able to stay out with that

1051
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:26.440
many violations and the penalties as far as Louisiana, I

1052
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:28.159
know this was not Louisiana, but I just like to

1053
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.239
work in Louisiana law. But you know, your first offense

1054
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.480
on a failure to register is up to one thousand

1055
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:36.559
dollars fine and then they could give you two to

1056
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:40.599
ten years in prison. The second time you fail to register, oh,

1057
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.199
up to a three thousand dollars fine. They could give

1058
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:46.079
you five to twenty years. If you fail to pay,

1059
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:48.719
it's up to a five one hundred dollars fine, and

1060
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:52.599
maybe you'll get six months. That's the problem here. I

1061
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.119
don't play with sex offenders. They're the only ones that,

1062
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:57.559
no matter how much research is done, says that they

1063
00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:58.960
cannot be rehabilitated.

1064
00:55:59.360 --> 00:55:59.719
And so.

1065
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:04.599
I don't understand how this guy had the ability to

1066
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:06.960
do this over and over and over and over again.

1067
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:08.920
And his ass was not in prison a long time ago.

1068
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:13.000
But why didn't you look up Nebraska since that's where

1069
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:13.360
he's from.

1070
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.039
Oh, because they word things differently, And I just was

1071
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.719
given an example for Louisiana of how it's screwed up

1072
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:21.119
here too. Like the laws, I don't understand, they don't

1073
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:23.360
make sense to me that you were given. Why are

1074
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:27.519
you even given this many opportunities you are? You are

1075
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.519
such a red flag to society. We need you to

1076
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.039
come in and take a picture. We need to know

1077
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:34.159
where you live, and we need to sometimes send out

1078
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:36.079
mailers to let people know how dangerous you are.

1079
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:39.199
Why aren't you being locked up when you keep offending

1080
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:39.519
like this?

1081
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:41.159
Right?

1082
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:45.639
You know? I can't I just this here is a failure.

1083
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:48.639
It's an sex Like I said, I mean, we're locking

1084
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.280
people up for more time on drugs, but this guy

1085
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:52.679
is going in and getting in bed with a nine

1086
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:53.440
year old child.

1087
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.079
Okay, look, I looked up the Nebraska part because that

1088
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:02.679
makes a difference. I mean the state that he was committing.

1089
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.960
These instances of non registration really matter because it changed

1090
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:10.880
from state to state, and Nebraska, feling to comply with

1091
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:16.360
sex offender registration is generally a class three felony, which

1092
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:20.599
can result in up to three years imprisonment. Subsequent violations

1093
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:23.360
or failures to register can escalate it to a class

1094
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:24.079
two felony.

1095
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:28.559
Yeah, and it says can can not shall. So to

1096
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.840
that point, what if he came here and he offended? Though,

1097
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:33.559
what if he traveled across state lines and he came

1098
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:37.440
here and offended. I'd be pissed because there's not much

1099
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.360
that would It doesn't that's not equivalent to what the

1100
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:42.840
crime is here. This man was naked and got into

1101
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.280
bed with a child in a home that was not his.

1102
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:49.039
That is the scariest thing I can think of, aside

1103
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:51.920
from someone trying to kidnap my kid, you know, or

1104
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:52.719
take my child.

1105
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.800
Well, what are you saying is not equivalent to that.

1106
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.719
What I'm saying is like habitual offender laws. We have

1107
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:03.320
those because we recognize when someone is habitually a problem,

1108
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.679
we eventually in the state will throw him. We'll lock

1109
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.039
him up and we'll throw away the key. But when

1110
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:11.440
they're a sex offender, and they look how many times

1111
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:11.840
he got.

1112
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:14.960
In trouble, right for not registering?

1113
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:18.440
Yeah, failure to register. That's how we keep up with you.

1114
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:21.679
And so but if you don't do it, your penalty

1115
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.519
is nothing. I mean, that's nothing in the big scheme

1116
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:26.840
of things. He had a bottle of lotion and a

1117
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.480
bottle of water at the bed of a nine year old.

1118
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.800
But these are brain new charges, Kelly. They're not going

1119
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.480
to charge him for failure to register. They're going to

1120
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.280
charge him for a completely mid case.

1121
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:39.880
He already had those though. My point is that he

1122
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:44.800
was not complying with the rules and regulations that allowed

1123
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:46.360
him to be free in society.

1124
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.960
So he's not complying, did we get.

1125
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.079
I agree with that, But he's getting I mean, technically

1126
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:53.480
you're supposed to have ten years.

1127
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:57.360
In jail, can but he's not getting it right.

1128
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.320
So the law, my point is the laws of got

1129
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:02.880
to be more refined on this one, because he's going

1130
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:05.039
to end up raping a child, he's going to end

1131
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.559
up sexually abusing somebody. He's already done it, and he's

1132
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:10.639
breaking into homes and he's getting naked.

1133
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.079
Why is he free, Well, he's not going to be

1134
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:17.920
free now now, but that we're aware of, he hadn't

1135
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.519
committed a rape prior to this. He hadn't done this

1136
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:25.760
prior to this. He went forty years without having any other.

1137
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:27.239
Charges that we know of.

1138
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.119
You think he's just going to know of, But I mean,

1139
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.559
you can't just assume that we know of.

1140
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.239
He went in eighty seven and he got that's when

1141
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:34.960
he had to register.

1142
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:35.760
That's correct.

1143
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:39.000
In ninety nine he tried to do something to somebody,

1144
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.079
but he ended up getting stopped. Then he's been convicted

1145
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.440
at least four more times for violating the registration.

1146
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:48.840
Or violating registration. Yes, he was right, and I'm not trusting.

1147
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:51.440
I'm not justifying any of that. But I'm saying he

1148
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:55.679
wasn't jumping into beds with kids, he was not registering

1149
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:59.239
as a sex offender, which I'm not justifying any of that.

1150
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.440
Let me say it again, I'm not defending this asshole.

1151
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:06.199
I'm just saying. I'm just saying, technically, by the law,

1152
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:10.199
at least Louisiana's version, he could get ten years just

1153
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.480
for that. But these charges he's gonna have now are

1154
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.000
on brand new charges, so he's going to face some

1155
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:19.440
pretty serious shit here. He's got over a million dollar bond.

1156
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:22.440
He never should have gotten to this point though he's

1157
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.639
already raped one, he's tried to do another, and then

1158
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:29.360
he's not following for all of these years. He's not

1159
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:32.280
following his registration. If I was the grandfather, I.

1160
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:36.159
Don't agree that those Yes, I agree, I agree that

1161
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:37.679
he should should have been filing.

1162
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:40.039
He should we should have never gotten to this point.

1163
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:45.239
My overall point is that these this needs to be

1164
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:48.920
a much harsher penalty from the jump. These are sexual

1165
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:52.159
predators and they're the ones that cannot be rehabilitaiy.

1166
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:53.159
Okay, So what should the penalty be.

1167
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:57.519
There should be no first offense. You don't follow the rules.

1168
01:00:57.599 --> 01:00:59.199
Your ass has gone to prison.

1169
01:00:59.159 --> 01:00:59.800
For how long?

1170
01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:02.079
I'd give them fifteen I'd give him fifteen to twenty,

1171
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.159
but not can. It would be shall you shall go

1172
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.000
to prison? You shall be locked up? If we are

1173
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.840
giving you the benefit of the doubt that you can

1174
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.840
walk these streets after you have a you have sexually

1175
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:17.199
assaulted somebody, then you will follow our rules, because if

1176
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.199
you're going to even meet Tier one, Tier two, or

1177
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:22.320
Tier three sex offender registry, you are a felon like

1178
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:25.440
you are, you are a problem. This isn't touching somebody's

1179
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.880
butt in a club. This is carnal knowledge of a

1180
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.400
juvenile level stuff. It's on the same it's on the same,

1181
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:36.199
uh you know scale. So if you have to register,

1182
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.440
you have done something very serious that this society thinks

1183
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:41.559
we need to take your picture. Know where you work,

1184
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:43.920
you can't hand out Halloween candy, you can't wear a

1185
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:44.760
mask in public.

1186
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.159
You know, That's how serious this is.

1187
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:49.199
And then we're just gonna let this cat go and

1188
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.280
do all of these things until he ends up in

1189
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:53.239
bed with a nine year old in a home that's

1190
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:56.760
not his. Like that should not happen. It should never

1191
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:59.119
have gotten to that point. This is a failure in

1192
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:01.800
in in a lot of ways, I think.

1193
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:05.880
All right, all right, well we're gonna we're going to

1194
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:10.440
turn the page here to something. Well, it's a little

1195
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:13.719
less serious obviously than that, And We're gonna jump on

1196
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:16.360
the true crime time machine. We do we do, we do,

1197
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:20.800
we do, we doo doop, and we're gonna go to

1198
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:25.880
April thirtieth of nineteen thirty two, and I'm gonna tell

1199
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:30.039
y'all a story that you may be familiar with, the

1200
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:33.920
the uh, the cusp of who these people are, but

1201
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:38.440
you may not realize that what started at all occurred

1202
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.719
on April thirtieth, nineteen thirty two. And that was after

1203
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:46.440
routine after hours visits to a small town filling station

1204
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:49.679
in a pawn shop ended in cold blood and murder

1205
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.320
when a sixty one year old store owner of that

1206
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:56.880
pawn shop, John Butcher, was shot and killed during a

1207
01:02:56.920 --> 01:03:01.920
botched riwbery. Now that crime that first put Clyde Barrow,

1208
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.679
you may recognize that name on law enforcement's radar as

1209
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:09.360
a wanted murderer. It also helped ignite the legendary two

1210
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:13.639
year crime spree of Bonnie and Clyde Butcher, who operated

1211
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:18.519
the combination grocery, jewelry, and optical store. And that's a

1212
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:22.239
hell of a combination. There you get your bread and

1213
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:27.519
your eyes checked out all the same place. Well, he

1214
01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:31.800
operated that store. This was in Hillsboro in Hill County, Texas.

1215
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:34.360
He was closing up for the night with his wife

1216
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:37.360
when three men entered the shop. One of the intruders

1217
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.039
was twenty one year old Clyde Barrow, who had worked

1218
01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:43.519
briefly with Butcher's son at a local auto shop, and

1219
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.079
he was familiar with the family. Barrow remained outside as

1220
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:52.400
the getaway driver while his accomplices, Raymond Hamilton, and another associate,

1221
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.199
some people identified as Frank Claus, went inside under the

1222
01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:00.559
pretense of making a small purchase. The actual said they

1223
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:04.360
wanted to buy guitar strings. According to witnesses, the robbers

1224
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:07.880
quickly demanded access to the store's safe, and as Butcher

1225
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:10.599
opened it and reached for a handgun that he kept

1226
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:13.599
inside that safe for protection, one of the men panicked

1227
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:16.559
and fired. The bullet struck Butcher and the heart, killing

1228
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.000
him instantly. The gang fled with roughly forty dollars in

1229
01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:25.320
cash and some jewelry, escaping before police arrived. His wife,

1230
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.760
who was present during the hold up and lived with

1231
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:30.760
her husband in an apartment above that store, very popular

1232
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:35.039
during that time, later viewed police mug shots and identified

1233
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:38.559
Clyde Barrow as one of the gunmen, even though multiple

1234
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:41.199
accounts placed him outside in the car the whole time.

1235
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.320
Her Id May Barrow a wanted man from murder and

1236
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.719
marked the first time that his name was publicly linked

1237
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:50.840
to the killing. The slang of Jay and Butcher in

1238
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:55.920
early newspaper accounts was a relatively small score crime by

1239
01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.480
the Depression air standards. I mean back then it was

1240
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:04.760
going because of the prohibition period. But it launched the

1241
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:08.679
Barrows Gang's deadly reputation for setting the stage for a

1242
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:13.480
string of robberies and shootouts across Texas, Oklahoma, and the Midwest.

1243
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:17.000
So this guy gets buried in Ridge Park Cemetery. This

1244
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:20.760
was in Hillsboro, Texas, and no immediate rest were made

1245
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.960
that night, but Raymond Hamilton was later connected to the crime.

1246
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.280
He would serve time for that, and Clyde would not

1247
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:33.239
be captured until his dramatic death alongside Bonnie Parker two

1248
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:36.199
years later. This was in nineteen thirty four in a

1249
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:41.280
Louisiana ambush. The case obviously remains a grim footnote in

1250
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:43.960
the Bonnie and Clyde legend and a reminder that the

1251
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.239
glamorous outlaw life began with a senseless shooting of an

1252
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:51.880
ordinary small business owner who simply reached for his gun

1253
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:53.960
to protect what was his.

1254
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:57.039
So you may not know this, and I don't want

1255
01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:00.920
to scare you, Jim, but I have always obviously been

1256
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:05.360
a true crime fan. And one Christmas, my mama gave

1257
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:10.440
me a framed picture of Clyde, like his mugshots and everything.

1258
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:13.079
And I just kind of looked at her like, Okay, thanks, Mama,

1259
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:14.159
and she said, no, you know why?

1260
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:16.480
So why? She said, you know you're related to Clyde.

1261
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:20.559
Oh, here we go, she did Clyde.

1262
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:23.320
Yes, I s Oklahoma. Does that matter?

1263
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:25.400
She did that, you know, the where you do, the

1264
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:27.559
family tree, the whole thing, all the way back, And

1265
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:29.519
I'm related to Clyde.

1266
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:30.800
So that's cousin Clyde.

1267
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:33.360
But something interesting about him to me is that, you know,

1268
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:35.920
he's this big, larger than life guy that had, you know,

1269
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:38.679
has his legend. He was only five foot six and

1270
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:40.760
one hundred and thirty five pounds and he was tatted

1271
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:42.360
up and a lot of people don't know that.

1272
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:44.519
But he was a little he was a little bitty dude.

1273
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:46.960
But his middle name. Do you know, I'm gonna.

1274
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:49.599
Do a little uh little what do you think it

1275
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:50.559
would be don't look at my.

1276
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:52.639
Favor I wouldn't. I'm not even going to guess.

1277
01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:59.039
Clyde something Barrow, guess Warrow Clyde Willbarrow. That was actually

1278
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:04.360
pretty good. His middle name was Champion Clyde, Champion Barrow.

1279
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:10.599
That's my cousin. That's why name. You're no, no er no.

1280
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:12.920
But I came up with some names.

1281
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:15.280
I don't know if our listener cousin, Yes, he is,

1282
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:16.360
damn it, that's my cousin.

1283
01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:20.000
Girl, he can't possibly be your cousin.

1284
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:22.000
Listen, when two people have sex and then there's more

1285
01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:24.239
kids are offspring, he becomes your cousin.

1286
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:25.599
Well, I don't know what number cousin, but.

1287
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:27.400
All right.

1288
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:30.079
I was wondering if any of our listeners have ever

1289
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.519
thought of what would their gang or like, their street

1290
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:34.880
name be if they had to, like, you know, pick

1291
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:36.840
their street name. I came up with one for us

1292
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.800
as a dynamic duo, what we would be, And it's

1293
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:42.719
based off of our hairstyles.

1294
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:43.679
Slick and frizzy.

1295
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:49.480
Okay, you don't like it, No, you're slick, I'm frizzy.

1296
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:50.800
What would you be?

1297
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:52.440
Kajack?

1298
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:53.480
Kojack?

1299
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:55.719
Kajack? Do you not know who Kojack is?

1300
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:55.920
No?

1301
01:07:56.199 --> 01:08:00.239
Oh my god, you're young. Everybody out there, if you

1302
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.719
know who Kojack is, comment slick want you to know

1303
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:06.679
Kojack was look it up while I cover this store.

1304
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:08.679
My grandpa used to call me Kojack and I never

1305
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:09.159
knew why.

1306
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:11.960
Actually it's your is a year turn to cover a store?

1307
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.280
I just did Clive bar. Yeah, an machine? You look up?

1308
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.119
Kojack? Oh who loves your baby?

1309
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:17.520
Is that it?

1310
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:18.479
Yeah? The drum?

1311
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:22.880
Oh yeah, jack Man. Actually I do know who that is.

1312
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:29.000
Okay, let's do uh, let's do something in Grapevine, Texas.

1313
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.840
And this is gonna involve food if you're a foodie.

1314
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:34.960
So, a former Chick fil A employee has been arrested

1315
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:38.880
and charged with stealing more than eighty thousand dollars from

1316
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.960
the fast food chain and a brazen refund scheme that

1317
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:46.159
involved ringing up nearly eight hundred fake orders of macaroni

1318
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:48.439
and cheese and then he credited that money straight to

1319
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.000
his personal credit card. Keyshun Jones, who had been fired

1320
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:56.239
from the Grapevine location in October of twenty five, allegedly

1321
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.439
returned to the restaurant the following month slipped behind the

1322
01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:03.479
counter without authorization. And this has all been obtained in

1323
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:07.159
surveillance footage, but police say that he then used the

1324
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:11.520
restaurant's register to process approximately eight hundred trays of the

1325
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:14.840
popular mac and cheese side, each priced around one hundred

1326
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:19.000
dollars for a large catering style portion, and then he

1327
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:21.479
immediately issued refunds to his own credit card.

1328
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:23.600
The elaborate mac and cheese.

1329
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:25.760
Scheme netted him more than eighty grand before the restaurant's

1330
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:30.039
owner noticed the suspicious transactions you think and alerted the police.

1331
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.439
So Jones evaded arrest on multiple occasions over the next

1332
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:35.960
five months, but he was taken into custody on April

1333
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:38.720
the seventeenth of twenty twenty six with the assistants from

1334
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:41.239
the Texas AG's Fugitive Task.

1335
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:43.199
Force and the Fort Worth Police Department.

1336
01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:47.760
Now he is facing felony charges including property theft, money laundering,

1337
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:50.880
and evading arrest. He's currently in the Tarrent County Jail.

1338
01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:54.520
Police described the scheme as one of the more creative

1339
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:58.000
fraud cases that they've investigated, noting that the sheer volume

1340
01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:01.000
of fake mac and cheese orders may the theft standout

1341
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:03.399
on the restaurant's books.

1342
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:07.560
Look and it may surprise you and the audience out

1343
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:11.479
there to know that Keyshawn James is actually my cousin.

1344
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:16.600
No he's not. There's no way, no nice.

1345
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.600
Look a couple of things here. First of all, I've

1346
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:25.600
never had the macaroni cheese at Chick fil A of you.

1347
01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.239
No, but people did get back to us real quick

1348
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.720
about the cookie trays that you we hadn't had.

1349
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:31.479
Well, that has nothing to do with the.

1350
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:32.520
They were delicious cookie.

1351
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:34.880
Oh yeah, I saw people went back they said they

1352
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:37.600
were good. Yeah at Donald's though.

1353
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.600
Yeah, I haven't had the mac and cheese from Uh

1354
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:41.119
you have not, it must.

1355
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.520
Be pretty good. I hear it's very popular. I've not

1356
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.159
had it either. I don't go to Chick fil A

1357
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:48.520
too much. But I'm gonna tell you what, when we

1358
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:53.199
cover these scams, these refund scams on here, it never

1359
01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:56.039
seeks to amaze me how stupid people are. Like, if

1360
01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:58.600
you're going to try to pull something off, don't credit

1361
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:03.359
it to your personal credit card. That creates what we like.

1362
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:04.800
To call a trup paper trail.

1363
01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:09.640
Yeah, the first freaking thing you're gonna do is say, well,

1364
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:13.239
where did the money go? Who are we crediting? Oh,

1365
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:17.960
we're crediting this guy eight hundred times over five months,

1366
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.039
and that leads me to my second question. How the

1367
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:23.479
hell did the owner of this not catch it?

1368
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:25.039
For fun?

1369
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:30.199
You blaming well? November twenty twenty five is when they

1370
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:33.439
noticed the transactions, and in April of twenty twenty six

1371
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:34.159
he was caught.

1372
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:36.079
Yeah, he was on the run for five months. He

1373
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:38.520
did all those at once, right, but it.

1374
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:42.520
Was obviously Oh I'm sorry, Yes, that's correct. So it

1375
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:45.279
was only it was only a one month time period

1376
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.760
that they noticed an issue, so I could see that happening. Yeah,

1377
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:52.399
because you don't really you know, you're closing out your month,

1378
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.680
so you're seeing so that makes a little more sense,

1379
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.479
but still all for the same thing. I mean, this

1380
01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:01.880
guy have one item and the second. Another point I

1381
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:04.800
want to make on this. That's a busy ass Chick

1382
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:07.680
fil A. When you're selling eight hundred trays of mac

1383
01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:08.319
and cheese.

1384
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:13.039
How the hell he's snuck behind the counter? Nobody noticed

1385
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:14.960
the fired employee work in the register.

1386
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:17.079
That's crazy, that's wild.

1387
01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:22.039
I wouldn't have the audacity. That's such a thing. I

1388
01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:22.880
just that's no.

1389
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:25.880
It's a been pretty brazen, and I mean it's going

1390
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:27.960
to be easy to catch pin and trail man.

1391
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:28.840
What a dumbass.

1392
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:31.000
Are Kelly any final thoughts?

1393
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:32.000
Yeah?

1394
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.000
I want you all to know that I am actually

1395
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:36.399
related to Clyde and jim is not taking it.

1396
01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:39.960
I want it's a genealogist. If you're listening to this,

1397
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:43.199
I want you to trace Clyde's face more to today.

1398
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:45.680
Moore showed me that. I gotta see proof of that.

1399
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:47.840
I think I think your mom might have been pulling him.

1400
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:50.720
She wasn't, No, she wasn't. And I'm related to Elvis.

1401
01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:51.520
That ain't a lie either.

1402
01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:53.920
Oh my god, I am y'ah hear this?

1403
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:55.000
Oh my god.

1404
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.720
It is related to Elvis, which means Elvis is related

1405
01:12:57.760 --> 01:12:58.199
to clade.

1406
01:12:58.279 --> 01:12:59.880
You ever seen these hips shake?

1407
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.920
Elvis is related to Clyde. She ain't got no family

1408
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.800
nowhere in Louisiana. Related to people, all of them.

1409
01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:08.520
It's two different sides of the family and the tree branches.

1410
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:11.880
We don't have a stick, we have branches. It's not

1411
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:14.399
a one way shoot, Jimothy, I'm related to.

1412
01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:16.920
A man that signed a declaration of independence. Beat that.

1413
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:18.439
I believe you.

1414
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:19.359
I am.

1415
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:23.199
Oh sure, okay, sure, you started this country and my

1416
01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:24.079
people shot it up.

1417
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:29.359
Nope, related to James Wilson. He signed the Declaration of

1418
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:33.079
Independence and you can look it up. I'm named my

1419
01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:38.800
mother's maiden name is Wilson, and James Wilson was I

1420
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:43.520
don't know, like my freaking triple great grandfather or whatever, but.

1421
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:45.880
Well we have totally related just so you know. In

1422
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:47.840
our jail role, I've.

1423
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:50.159
Been for freedom since the beginning of time.

1424
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:52.800
Well, right now we have one of our former presidents

1425
01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:54.880
in jail in Livingston Parish because I looked at the

1426
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:58.479
roster and John Quincy Adams, Oh, I saw that is

1427
01:13:58.560 --> 01:13:59.720
incarcerating there.

1428
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:03.159
The same guy obviously. All right, well, thank you. Any

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final thoughts out again? Thought right, just ask him? Damn

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all right, folks, we want to thank you so much

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