April 30, 2025

Double Murder: Tracie Hawlett & J.B. Beasley

Double Murder: Tracie Hawlett & J.B. Beasley

In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ covers the disappearance of Tracy Hollett and JB Beasley during a birthday celebration in Alabama, detailing the search, discovery of their bodies, investigation challenges, and a DNA breakthrough in the quest for...

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Season 7

In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ covers the disappearance of Tracy Hollett and JB Beasley during a birthday celebration in Alabama, detailing the search, discovery of their bodies, investigation challenges, and a DNA breakthrough in the quest for justice.

Chapters
02:57 Tracy and JB: Hometown Heroes
09:46 A Night to Remember
13:24 A Fateful Detour
16:58 Panic Sets In
25:37 The Horrific Crime
40:22 The Investigation Unfolds
55:42 Community Outcry
1:01:23 A Mother's Fight
1:04:17 New Leads in Old Cases
1:08:01 Breakthrough in the Case
1:21:43 Justice Served: The Verdict

Video, Sound and Editing for Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings is provided by the podcast experts at Envision Podcast Studios in Denham Springs, LA.
Executive Producer: Jim Chapman


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Hey, y'all, it's kJ here, back for another episode of Unspeakable.

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How's your week going? I bet it's going good if

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you're a Patreon member, because I released a bonus episode

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on Monday. I hope you got to listen to it.

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If you didn't, you better go check it out because

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it's a pretty damn good one, if I do say

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so myself. But I've got some shout outs here, so

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let me start in none other than Citrus Heights, California,

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where I have a new member named Dragon Onion. What

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is going on? Dragon Onion? Now, you're only the second

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Dragon that I've ever known, because the first Dragon was

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the son of Baron Lee.

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If you listen to that episode.

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But I hope things are going really well for you

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Dragon out there in California. And then right here in Swally, Louisiana,

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Miss Melinda Leech. What's up, Melinda? How are things going

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over there? I hope they're going well for you. It's

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getting hot. We had Springfest just this past weekend, and

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I almost sweat to death.

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If I got to see you there. I was really excited.

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I took lots of pictures with people, and I facetimed

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a lot of people, and I looked like a drowned rat.

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I was having a good time, but god darn, it's hot.

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I hope you're doing good over there, Melinda in your

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neck of the woods. And then last, but certainly not least,

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this week from Kimboleton Iowa, is Miss Melody Wilin' men.

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What's going on, Melody? How are things over there? I

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hope again, I hope you're having a great time. Maybe

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your weather's better than ours, I hope so. But I'm

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really excited about the episode I have today. I was

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gonna jump right in, but you know what, I've got

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to stop for a second because a little girl came

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up to me at Springfest and said, Miss Jennings, I

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loved when you came and spoke to us at my

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middle school, and you told me you were going to

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say hey to me on the air. And I have

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waited and waited and waited, and you haven't done that yet.

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And I said, well, my god, I cannot believe I'll

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let you down.

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What is your name?

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And she said, I'm Faith And I said, well, Faith,

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you can count on me. So Faith, you better be listening,

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because here is your shout out. All the way down

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the road about fifteen miles is Faith right there in Watson.

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I hope you're doing good, baby girl. I'm a woman

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of my word. I told you I was gonna tell you.

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Hey could tell all your friends that you got your

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shout out that have promised you. All right, So now

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let's get started, and we're going to go to Alabama.

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Y'all.

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Ozark Alabama, And this is a place that you imagine

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every hometown.

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In a movie, I guess to be.

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It was voted, by the way, the most patriotic city

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in Alabama, and they believe in the American dream. So

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they honor local heroes at their police Memorial Park that

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was built. They have a Veterans Memorial Bridge that they

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also used to promote our veterans and to thank them

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for everything that they've done. So basically, excellence is celebrated

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and hoped for by the locals and I just really

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admired that.

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I think a lot of it.

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The youth of the community are also raised to excel

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and to reach for the stars, while also shaking the

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hand and thanking those that have gone before them and

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have paved the way for them to live in such

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a free world. And to be able to experience all

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the things that they get to experience as teenagers. And

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this was the case for seventeen year old Tracy Hallett

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and her best friend jab Beasley. So Tracy grew up

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in Alabama, and y'all, she's a pretty little girl. She's

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got brown hair, it's cut into this sassy little bob

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it's right above her shoulders. She's got these big brown eyes,

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she's got this big toothy, smiley grin, and she's just

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a precious girl that you would expect in any.

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Hallmark movie that you would watch.

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Her father was killed when she was little, she was

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only about four years old. Whenever her daddy was killed,

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but with the support of her mother, her mama's name

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was Carol, her life remained on course.

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And she was a happy girl.

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Just a few years after her father passed away, her

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mama would meet a new man that she would eventually

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marry and would become Tracy's stepdad, and he would raise

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her as his own daughter, alongside two younger brothers that

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would soon thereafter come along to be born and come

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along into the family. Now, Tracy was super active in

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her high school. She was a junior at Northview High School,

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where she was a majorrette. So she liked to do

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her day anson and in her spare time she would

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babysit for people in the area just to get some

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extra cash. But she also had a real job, so

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to speak, where she worked at the J. C. Pennies

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in the men's department. So between school and practice and work,

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she was a really busy girl. But she always made

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time for something that was very important to her, and

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that was her church. And so she participated actively in

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the events at Heritage Baptist where she felt really blessed

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to be part.

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Of the youth group there.

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She even was so enthralled in what they did that

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she volunteered and she would teach vacation Bible school in

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the summertime. Now, if that is not enough to give

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you just an ounce of what character this child had.

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She also maintained a four point zero GPA in school.

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As well as being funny. What's a good combo? I

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like funny. I'm funny even whenever I don't try to be.

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People tell me that all the time, and I'm apparently

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funny inappropriate times, and I'm so sorry that I do that.

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I guess maybe it's a trauma response or something. Who knows.

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So I guess though that you can tell she was

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a good kid and that she would keep similar company

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in her best friend JB. Hallett, So Jennifer Beasley, which

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was she was affectionately called JB by all of her friends.

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She went to Northview and she was two raised in Alabama.

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Cute little thing too. If you look at her pictures again,

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she's got that little sassy bob just like Tracy. These

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really thin, almond shaped brown eyes, and she has kind

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of a sweetness about her overall. Look when you're looking

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at the two of them, you can just tell that

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these girls were alike and that they really thought a

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lot of each other. And JB was really active as well.

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In school, she had started really getting excited about cheerleading.

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She was I found to even be an All American

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cheerleader in the eighth grade.

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She went to Carver Middle.

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School, but once she made it into high school, she

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really shifted and focused her love of dance as her

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main priority.

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At school.

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She had dedicated a great deal of the last ten

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years to really honing her skills, which were evidenced in

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the numerous dance trophies and awards that she had.

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Collected and were all over the shelves in her room.

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She was an absolute star when she was on the

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stage and very clearly talented in dance, which caught the

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eye of her dance instructor, who And I know people

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always talk up their own kids, and we're always proud

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of our kids, and they try really hard. But her

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dance instructor really did think that the light shined differently

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on JB and that she one hundred percent could I

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don't know, go to New York and try out and

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be on Broadway and be on the stages. She just

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had that presence about her on the stage. She was

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destined for stardom in the eyes of her instructor that

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had taught her for so long. And matter of fact,

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JB had had a fallen out with her mom at

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one point, which it got really kind of bad that

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fallen out, and I don't know everything about it, but

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I do know that it got kind of dicey there

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for a little bit, and so her dance instructor ended

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up taking her in and they loved one another. This

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was in nineteen ninety eight, and her dance instructor would

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even become her guardian. Now, her mama loved her, and

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I don't want it to seem like her mama just

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kicked her out of the house or something. That's not

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what it was. Her mama loved her, but there was

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just this strain in the teenage mother relationship and it

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just kind of got out of whack. So she moved in,

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like I said, with her dance instructor, and they really

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had a great relationship and things were going pretty well.

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JB was also a member of the first United Methodist

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Church and she was very active in that as well

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as a million other activities. One of the things though,

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that she really really liked was she liked dressing people up.

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That was sort of thing. She liked to doll them up

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and do their hair and put makeup on people.

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And this included her bestie Tracy.

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While Tracy was more reserved than JB was as far

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as makeup and probably a little bit in personality from

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what I gather too, that dancer part of JB. She

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really wanted to doll up her dancer friend, but her

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bestie you'd be like, no, it's too much, You're doing

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too much. And so they kind of had that Yin

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and Yang, I guess relationship. So both girls worked really

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hard in school, and they both were those kinds of

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students that you just knew were going to graduate and

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go on and be successful in whatever.

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Past they chose.

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So they were really excited as this story really takes place,

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because they were now transitioning right into their senior year

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of high school.

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Y'all.

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It was finally their time. They were going to be

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the top dogs, and they looked forward to everything that

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being a senior had to offer, those privileges and that

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excitement of knowing this is your last year and you're

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on the top of the food chain. It was still summertime,

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though they would start in August, but this was about

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mid July. Summer was winding down, the school year was

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fast approaching, and so the girls were still enjoying their summer,

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those little bit of freedoms that they had and just

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having some fun before the last school year of high

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school came into play. So the majority of the time

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that they spent together, we're going to be at the mall.

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JB loved shopping, they liked talking on the phone, they

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liked finding things to do with their friends and finding

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something to do was really the most pressing issue of

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their lives. And I want to remind you that this

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is nineteen ninety nine when this is going on, and

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these girls were into everything we were all into. If

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you were a teenager back then, Napster. Do you remember Napster?

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That was really short lived, but you could get your

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free CDs and get those burned. I know my little

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high school boyfriend burned me a CD in high school

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from Napster, allegedly. Allegedly, graphic teas were all the rage

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when that was going on. TRL was on TV, Britney

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Spears was topping the charts with her hit Me Baby

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One More Time. That's really the era that this all

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is going to take place in. And the two girls

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were super excited on the evening of July thirty first

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because they got word that there was going to be

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a party going down in the nearby Headland area. This

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was going to be, no doubt a blast, and considering

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it was JB's birthday, this was gonna be a night

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for the bucks. They were gonna get to celebrate and

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make it about her, even though it seemed to be

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just kind of a random party that they were going to,

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but they were gonna make it about her that night.

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Tracy did work at the J. C. Penny.

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She had a shift that night until about nine o'clock,

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so JB had to wait for her to get off

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before they could head out and go to the party.

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And there was just one other small issue that they

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had to hurdle. Tracy's mama was very firm in the

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curfew that Tracy had to follow, and eleven o'clock.

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That was it. Eleven o'clock, you better be in this house.

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So JB did what.

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We all did as teen girls, and she said, well,

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let me call your mama, let me see what we

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can do. So JB called missus Carroll, and she really

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tried to persuade a possible extension, but she was met

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with typical miss Carroll, who said, no, her curfew is

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eleven o'clock. No problem, Miss Carroll, no problem, We'll be

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back at eleven, no worries.

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So JB.

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The plan was that JB was gonna spend the night

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with Tracy anyway that night back at the house, and

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then after the party, and then they were gonna go

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to church together the following morning. And this was going

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to be the best birthday ever. So Tracy ended her shift.

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JB picked her up and they ran back to JB's

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to get dressed for the party. So they double checked

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their hair one last time in the mirror, made sure

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everything was looking good, and then they jumped in the

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car to hit the road. They were riding together in

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JB's car. She had a four door black Mazda and

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that's what they were taken to the party. JB's dad

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had given her the car. It was a gift, and

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this was a gift that she was stoked to have.

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It was her first real big thing that she owned,

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and so she kept it spotless. She was proud of

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her wheels and she wasn't gonna disrespect this gift that

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she was proud to have received. Now they were pretty

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sure where they were headed, but this was the timeframe.

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If I want you to, I want you to kind

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of go back and think about nineteen ninety nine. This

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was before I fol, this is before Google Maps. But

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I mean, how hard could it possibly be to find

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this party that they were going to. It wasn't at

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a house or anything like that. It was in a

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place that kids around where I'm from, where they liked

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to party.

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It was in a field. They would find a field.

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Build a bonfire, and everybody would kind of hang out,

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and that's what this party was going to be. So

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the girls didn't know exactly where they were going, but

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they knew the general direction, and they figured they could

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just drive up and go and go find it. Where

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everybody was, they'd be able to find it. So there'd

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be this mix of flirting and fun, maybe a little drama.

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That was what was on the menu for the night.

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But finding the dang field proved harder than they thought.

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The field was off a country road, like these country

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back roads, and considering it was already dark whenever they

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set out to find the party, these roads weren't well lit,

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and so it was really just adding to the difficulty

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of them finding where to turn to end.

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Up where the party was.

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So after they drove around for a while, the girls

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decided it just wasn't worth it to keep searching. They

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didn't know where they were. They were gonna head back

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home because this was just getting It was getting too late.

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They'd been driving around too long and they couldn't find

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the friggin party, And they knew for a fact that

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that curfew was in effect, and they were not gonna

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be late. But the issue became that after all the

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turns and the twists that they had taken on these

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back roads, they were now somewhat turned around and they

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were unsure of how to get back home. So they

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made the decision to stop, and they were going to

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ask for help rather than chance being late, because Miss

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Carroll did not play and these girls followed the rules.

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So thank god. They saw this gas station that they

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decided to pull into to try to get directions, and

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there was a woman and her daughter in that same

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parking lot who had stopped to get a drink. It

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was a convenience store, and so they saw this woman

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and they saw her daughter, and maybe it was because

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the teen girl was there, the teen daughter that was

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in the car with her mother, maybe the girls felt

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safe in that or it saw that lights. Oh, look

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another teenager, and so they felt comfortable getting out of

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the car and going up to these people to ask

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for directions. But the teenager in the car didn't really know,

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so she looked at her mom and had her mom

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give these directions. Now that mom's name was Marilyn Merritt,

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and she was happy to help these young girls out.

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She gave them directions to get back on the main highway,

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and the directions were super simple. You'd take a right

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out of the store parking lot and then you'd take

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a left. When you see the entrance to the highway,

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it's marked by a sign. You can't miss it. It's

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literally two turns from where we are. And the girls

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thank you so much. They were just so thankful because

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they had to get back home, and realizing it was

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now after eleven, uh oh, they were late, Tracy said,

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we can't go until I call mama. I have to

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call her because we're already late and we're going to

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be in trouble. So the girls pull up to a

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payphone that was right there on the corner of the

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of the building and got out a quarter, put it in,

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and made the phone call home. Now, her mom had

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actually just walked in the door when she heard the

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phone ringing, so she was able to just grab it

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and answer it right there. And Tracy was honest, Mama, look,

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we got lost. We're in the Ozark area. We're headed

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back home. We never even found the party, but we're

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kind of lost, but we just got directions and now

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we're going to jump back on the road. We are

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gonna be there in just a minute. And her mama said, okay, baby,

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y'all come home. Y'all be careful. I love you, and

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Tracy said, I love you too, Mama, and then they

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hung up the phone. So Marilyn and her daughter then

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drove away from the parking lot and the girls made

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their way back to their car to follow those instructions

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that they had received from Miss Merit well, since it

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wouldn't take long now for the girls to make it

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back home. Since they had the directions, Tracy's mama went

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on and went to bed. She was happy to know

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the girls had checked in, they were safe, they should

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be home in the next fifteen to twenty minutes, so

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she could lay down and she could rest. But before

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mama knew it, she had dozed off and she kind

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of third back awake between four point thirty and five

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o'clock in the morning, so she shuffled into the kitchen

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to go get a drink or whatever she was doing,

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and that's whenever she noticed that the light above the

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stove in the kitchen was still on. So when the

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girls would come in, it was commonplace that they would

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turn it off before they had to bed, So this

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really alarmed Mama Carol. And in my house, we actually

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did the same thing. I saw a meme one time

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that said, if you leave your stove light on at night,

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you are country as hell. Well, baby, here I am,

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because that's exactly what we did. We left that light

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on the night light in the kitchen, but you turn

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it off whenever everybody's gone to bed. So not one

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to overreact, Miss Carroll went into the living room and

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she looked at the couch, but the girls weren't there.

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She ran back to Tracy's room. No girls. She goes

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and looks outside. The cars weren't there, and the phone

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had not rang since they last spoke, so clearly something

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was terribly wrong. So she starts her mind starts just racing.

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Maybe the car broke down. Yeah, that's it. I bet

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the car broke down and they're just waiting for us

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to go get them. That's got to be what it is.

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It can't be anything worse than that.

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So missus Carrol ran and she woke up Tracy' stepdad.

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His name was Mike, and Mike never hesitated. That was

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his baby girl. He jumped straight out of the bed,

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threw his clothes on, jumped in his truck, and he

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tore out of the driveway, not necessarily knowing specifically where

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he was going, but he knew that the last call

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came from Ozark, so his aim was to travel that

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same route where they most likely would have taken to

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come home and look for them. So while he's driving,

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he not only was looking at the roadway and looking

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at the cars going past him, but he was checking

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the shoulder. He even scanned the ditches and the tree

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line to look if maybe they had gotten in a wreck,

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or if they had pulled off the beaten path, because

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maybe they ran out of gas, you just don't know.

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But they didn't see him anywhere.

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Both parents felt sicker by the minute because not only

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did they not find the girls, y know, they didn't

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see the whole car like they were nowhere to be found.

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So Mamma Carroll, not wanting to waste time, she jumped

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on the phone. She started calling the local hospitals to

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see did y'all have any wreck victims or do you

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have any injured teenage girls? Any any teenagers that have

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come in maybe they were unconscious or something. But no

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medical personnel had seen the girls. Nothing, nobody that was unnamed,

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and nobody by the names that were they were given.

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So these girls would not have just gone somewhere without permission.

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I need to be so very clear about that. So

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missus Carroll then jumped on the phone with Patty. Patty

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was that dance instructor that became JB's guardian. She called

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Patty to see if maybe they had gone over there instead.

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But again this was almost laughable because the girls always

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did what they were told to do, and they were

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expected to spend the night at Tracy's. They would not

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have just changed their minds and they would have never

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changed a plan without permission. So when Patty got the

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word that they were not at the house, she too

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immediately panicked because she knew that these girls were not

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those kids that would just go disappear. So she even

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called the State Troopers main office to see if they

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had any reports. Maybe something did happen. The worst case scenario,

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maybe they got arrested. We don't know, they're just gone,

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But that resulted in nothing. The police had no clue

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about these girls. So once that was dreadfully clear that

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something had to have happened to them, the police did

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get involved and a BOLO was put out be on

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the lookout for the missing car and the teen girls.

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So while those that didn't know the girls may have

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assumed that this was a teen's gone wild. Maybe these

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girls were just acting out, that was if you didn't

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know these girls. But Mama Carol and Miss Patty knew

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this was the absolute furthest thing from the truth that

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could have been the case. So maybe other people thought,

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why are you panicking so much? You know, teens will

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be teens, But these ladies knew that this was not

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that case. These were good girls and this was beyond

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out of character. A mother's intuition it never lies, and

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Miss Carrol knew down in her soul that there had

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to have been something serious happen for her Tracy to

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fail to get in touch with her, her baby girl

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and JB.

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They had to be in trouble.

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She knew it in her soul. So within just a

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few hours of that bolo going out for the missing car,

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an alert patrol officer came upon a vehicle that he

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believed matched that description of JB's vehicle, so he pulled

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in behind and he ran the license plate and wouldn't

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you know, it came back as a positive hit for

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that missing car. Now it was parked off to the

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side of the road. There was a tree line there.

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It was like there was a shoulder and a tree line.

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And this was called Herring Avenue, which, as a crow flies,

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it's only about a mile from the gas station where

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Tracy had last called from and spoken to her mom.

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It wasn't that far and this road it was also

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rather short, and there were no houses or buildings or

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anything like that on either side of this road. There

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was only a shoulder, then some grass, and then it

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met into that treeline and the car was parked in

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that grass.

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It was not wrecked.

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It also wasn't a place that you would have ever

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expected the girls to walk away from because there was

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nowhere to go. Really, there was nothing around there that

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they would have been walking to. And while I don't

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have direct knowledge of this, I kind of got the

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gist that maybe it was in an area too that

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these two girls didn't need to be walking around in

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the middle of the night by themselves either. So the

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condition of the car was peculiar though, because when the

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officer got up to it, it was unlocked. Some of

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the windows were rolled down, the ones on the driver's

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side were rolled down, and then further inspection looking into

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the car, it really just made what was found seem

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worse because the girl, those purses were still in the car,

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their wallets were still there with cash still inside the wallet,

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their belongings, they were all still in the car.

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There just were no keys.

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Now you look again, you're like, uh oh, they look

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really close. There was no blood, there was no sign

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of a struggle. There was no sign of violence of

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any kind. The girls were simply gone and the car

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was left unattended. But where did they go and why

472
00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.759
would they leave the car there? There really were just

473
00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:34.279
no leads to answer this question at all. So, making

474
00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:37.200
an executive decision on the best course of action that

475
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.720
should be taken, the police decided to enact what they

476
00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:43.279
referred to as a close patrol. And this is basically

477
00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:48.400
where you identify the coverage of a very defined, usually

478
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:50.880
really a smaller area, kind of like a directed patrol,

479
00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:54.039
and the police officers are going to remain in that

480
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:57.319
area to address an issue of some sort. And this

481
00:22:57.359 --> 00:22:59.920
could be just to reduce crime in a high crime area,

482
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:02.359
or it could be something really specific, like what was

483
00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:04.839
going on here? That these girls are somewhere, we need

484
00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.279
to figure out where they are. So the goal was that, hey,

485
00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.400
let's just keep an eye on the car and let's

486
00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:11.640
see if the girls or anyone else for that matter,

487
00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:14.759
returns to the car, and that might help us with

488
00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:18.240
a lead of what's going on here. But no one

489
00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.440
would ever show or come up to the car. But

490
00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:27.240
there was an old friend of Tracy's father. This friend's

491
00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.359
name was Alton Miller, and he had been an investigator

492
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.839
for a number of years, and he decided when he

493
00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:35.359
found out that Tracy was missing, he was not going

494
00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:38.680
to wait any longer to find his friend's daughter. He

495
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:40.240
was not going to sit by the wayside because I

496
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.880
believe he was a different town away or a different county,

497
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.480
whatever it is over there. He had already lost his

498
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.759
friend in Tracy's father, who had passed away, and he

499
00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.920
wasn't going to lose his friend's daughter who was now missing.

500
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.759
So he jumped in his vehicle and he drove down

501
00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:58.039
to Ozark himself to assist in any way that he could.

502
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:00.519
And sure enough, when he got there, he saw the

503
00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.799
very same things that the police officers reported that they saw.

504
00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:06.119
It just didn't make sense.

505
00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:10.000
So he decided to just go a step further because

506
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:13.240
his own wife drove a similar Mazda as to the

507
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:15.799
one that Jab drove, and he knew that there was

508
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:18.240
a trunk release on the inside of the car where

509
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.880
he could pop the trunk even without the keys if

510
00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:24.000
it was locked in some fashion, So he wanted to

511
00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:25.720
look in the trunk to see if there was anything

512
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:29.039
that could be of any evidentiary value before they towed

513
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:32.480
the car away. The police were like, whatever, yeah, check

514
00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:35.319
it out. We didn't pop it yet, so let's do that.

515
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:37.559
So he figured out how to pop it. He popped

516
00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.400
the trunk, he pressed the button, and then he walked

517
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:43.119
to the back and he raised the trunk door, where

518
00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:47.039
he was stunned out of his mind to find both

519
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:51.720
teenage girls laying there in the trunk, right in the

520
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.920
vehicle that had been sitting there now for hours while

521
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.519
they looked for the girls. They had been in that

522
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:03.640
trunk the entire time. Why the police hadn't popped the

523
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.079
trunk before then, I can't tell you other than they

524
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:08.359
didn't have keys.

525
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:10.640
But my god, y'all, the girls.

526
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:14.359
Were there the entire time, right underneath their nose literally,

527
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.039
and he's like, girls, Oh my god, the girls. But

528
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.279
neither one of them moved when that trunk opened. They

529
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.920
just lay there, dead, silent, and completely still, next to

530
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:30.519
one another. And it wasn't because they were scared, and

531
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:34.319
it certainly wasn't because they were overheated either. It was

532
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.599
because they were both dead and they couldn't. Both of

533
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:43.519
these young girls were shot execution style in the head

534
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:47.519
with a nine millimeter. Now I know what someone's gonna

535
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.559
ask me right now, I know they are. They're gonna say,

536
00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:51.599
why couldn't the police smell the bodies?

537
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:52.119
I don't get it.

538
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:53.920
If their bodies had been in the trunk for a while,

539
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:55.880
they didn't smell them. And ye, all the answers know,

540
00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:01.119
smell of a body doesn't really start typically on average, okay,

541
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.359
until about the two day mark, and that's going to

542
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:09.720
be weather conditions dependent, amongst other factors. So the girls

543
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:13.640
were known to have been alive for sure around eleven

544
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.400
the night before, and it was just now roughly two

545
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:19.400
o'clock in the afternoon. They hadn't been dead long enough

546
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:22.480
for any type of smell to have been alerting the police.

547
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.640
Their bodies were laying parallel to one another, right next

548
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.000
to each other, but they were laying feet to each

549
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.680
other's heads, if that makes sense, so kind of opposite,

550
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.359
but right next to one another. And it looked as

551
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:39.640
if they had possibly gotten into the trunk alive and

552
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:43.200
then laid opposite of each other, resting their heads on

553
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:48.160
the slight incline of the trunk sides whenever they got in,

554
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.640
and both of their hands were drawn up by their

555
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.440
faces as if they had tried to shield themselves from

556
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.880
this gun that would inevitably shoot them both in the head.

557
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.359
And then their hands colapsed right where they were trying

558
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:09.359
to make it go away, a last ditch effort basically

559
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.559
to make the reality of what was happening stop. But

560
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.200
we all know your hands are never going to be

561
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.880
enough to stop someone that's going to inevitably shoot you

562
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:24.839
in the head. And the scene was so horrific that

563
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:30.559
even the seasoned investigators that showed up and were trying

564
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.559
to assess the scene, they even said that they had

565
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.400
to turn their heads and walk away and try to

566
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:41.640
compose themselves before they continued the investigation, because no man

567
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.279
on the planet could have looked at these two young

568
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.559
girls in that position and in that condition and not

569
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:54.279
feel something. They're little girls. No one deserves to be murdered,

570
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.920
and I know that. But to see two young, good

571
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:02.960
girls who displayed such which genuine goodness and promise laying

572
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:07.240
there in a final position of fear, that's a lot

573
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.920
for anybody to look at and for anybody to see.

574
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.319
We're all human, even our investigators are human, and it's

575
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:19.359
a lot. So after they gathered themselves got back into

576
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.000
the business side of it, now came the job of

577
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:25.279
evidence collection, and it was obvious that they both had

578
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:29.359
been shot, and one bullet casing was actually found on

579
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.319
top of one of the girls. But looking at their

580
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:36.000
clothing before they moved them, they noticed that both of

581
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.960
the girls their jeans were wet from the thigh or

582
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:43.319
the lower thigh to the knee area down, and they

583
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.119
had mud on their jeans, but there was also mud

584
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.759
on the back of the bumper. The mud was like

585
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.839
a swipe of dried blood, so it looked like maybe

586
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.920
it had transferred to the trunk as they climbed inside,

587
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.359
or their body moved over the trunk and they were

588
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.319
put inside and then it dried, so it kind of

589
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.480
just looked like a swipe of blood, So it appeared

590
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.039
to the investigators that the girls must have been kneeling

591
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.960
outside of the car at some point in a muddy

592
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:14.039
area where that's how it had soaked them and gotten

593
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.000
up to the place that it did on their blue jeans.

594
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.480
But the area around the car was dry. It was

595
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:23.319
super dry, so it seemed like they must have not

596
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.200
gotten muddy near the car. It had to have been

597
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.599
a different location that they were in this kneeling position.

598
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:32.960
And only finding one shell casing was a curious thing

599
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.759
as well, right off the top because both girls had

600
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:40.519
been shot. So officers scoured the area because they're now

601
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.720
looking for a second casing or more casings to be

602
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.519
able to figure out what was going on. So they

603
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:49.759
dropped down on their knees. One investigator gets down real

604
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:54.039
low and he's looking underneath the car. His goal was

605
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:57.400
to find hopefully maybe some spent bullet casings or something

606
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.960
of that nature. But when he got down really low

607
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.880
and he started looking, that's whenever he noticed that there

608
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.720
was a dripping puddle of blood right underneath the car

609
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.519
where it was parked. And then looking further, they also

610
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.519
found that there was some blood spatter on the vehicle,

611
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.799
and that blood looked like it had been blown, like

612
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:22.160
it spattered, and then the car had driven and it

613
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.599
blew the blood backwards in a backwards direction with the

614
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.799
wind rushing underneath the vehicle. So this led them to

615
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.079
believe that the girls had been shot elsewhere and then

616
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.200
loaded into the trunk and then driven. The vehicle was

617
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.720
then driven to this location where they found where they

618
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.720
found the girls, the blood had dripped out and puddled

619
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.680
after parking. That's how long that car had been there.

620
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.319
So clearly there had to have been a secondary crime

621
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.200
scene somewhere, but that could.

622
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.119
Have been anywhere.

623
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.039
So once the truth in essence here had been revealed,

624
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.839
now came the sickening task of not only finding a murderer,

625
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:05.480
but someone had to go tell not one, but two

626
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:11.319
mamas that their daughters would never be returning home. And

627
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.319
I'm gonna tell you that reality is so much easier

628
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:20.359
said than done. I mean, the closest thing. I never

629
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.759
had to do a death investigation or anything in an

630
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.240
official capacity, but I will tell you this, I did

631
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.960
have to do the death notification when my mother in

632
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.119
law passed away, and I had to tell that to

633
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.119
my child and my child and my mother in law

634
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:40.160
were besties for the resties. They were the tightest. They

635
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.160
were probably tighter than me and my child. That's how

636
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:46.200
much my mother in law was with my daughter at

637
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:50.160
the time. And I had a lot of trouble getting

638
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.559
those words out because I didn't want to break her

639
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.880
heart and to tell her this would be life altering.

640
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.640
It would change the course of what she knew her

641
00:31:58.720 --> 00:31:59.519
day to day to be.

642
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:00.839
And so.

643
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.279
It made me, you know, ask the question I guess

644
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.400
of you that can you remember something traumatic in your

645
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:11.680
life happening and the way that you found out about

646
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:17.599
that traumatic event, Because most people can tell you that

647
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:22.640
the way you find out a traumatic situation, the way

648
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.720
that you find out the literal words that are said

649
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.279
to you often will remain with you for the rest

650
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:34.640
of your life. So tact and empathy have to be

651
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.359
number one in this instance. And so that's why, just

652
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.200
so you know, death notifications are usually done in pairs.

653
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.279
Is the is the strategy usually taken. And the goal

654
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.960
here is that you have to think before you break

655
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.359
this type of information, especially to a mama about her

656
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:48.920
little girl.

657
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:50.720
You got to deliver with.

658
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.200
Compassion and respect, and it needs to be so dignified

659
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.240
it can't be jarring. So in this case, the police,

660
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.440
taking all of that into account, they decided that they

661
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.440
would let Miss Carroll's friend, Alton, break the news to her.

662
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.119
And he was the one, the family friend that went

663
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.000
and broke the news to Miss Carroll. And when he

664
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:16.000
broke that news to her, she fell silent because she

665
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.000
just couldn't believe it. She wouldn't believe it. She got

666
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:23.039
quiet and she just stared at him. It wasn't until

667
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.440
her husband, Mike walked in the house and it was

668
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:30.200
reiterated again that reality really set in for the both

669
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.799
of them and they both collapsed. They fell apart, not

670
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.920
knowing what to do, and I my heart for them

671
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.880
in that moment. It just touches something, because what do

672
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.400
you do. You want to do something. Your child, you

673
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.240
just found your child is dead. I need to go

674
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.240
do something. But the reality is there's nothing to do.

675
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.559
There's nothing you can do. You can't undo it. You

676
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.880
can scream, you can run, you can punch a wall,

677
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.839
you can go by flowers, you can go jump off

678
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.480
a bridge, you can do whatever you want to do,

679
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:05.880
but it's not going to change what was just told

680
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:10.920
to you and so missus Carrol and her husband Mike

681
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.559
just sat there in that grief, trying to really wrap

682
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:19.480
their brains around what they had just been told. JB's

683
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:23.159
family was also notified, and they had to begin that

684
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:29.159
same crushing response of grief and despair that this worst

685
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:33.480
absolute case scenario just played out in such a short

686
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:38.880
period of time. So investigators back at the scene now

687
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.440
started to venture out and they started to search nearby

688
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.039
places to see if they could locate possibly a muddy

689
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:45.880
area where the girls.

690
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:46.519
Could have been killed.

691
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:49.119
But again, y'all, this is huge. I mean, they found

692
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:54.400
nothing that was of great value. They didn't really find

693
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.920
any muddy areas either that lent itself to where these

694
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.360
girls must have been. They also, when they found out

695
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.760
about the call from the gas station, went back to

696
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:05.960
the gas station that the girls were last known to

697
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.840
be at. And this the store was called the Big

698
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.199
Little Store, and it's located on a corner street and

699
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.599
there's a railroad track that runs along one side of it.

700
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.199
And I don't know why, but when I looked at

701
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:19.039
the visual of this, it reminded me of the bovie

702
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.199
Fried Green Tomatoes, you know that set up where there's

703
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.239
the store and then the railroad tracks are right there.

704
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.400
It's very small and it has only two gas pumps

705
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:28.840
for reference, so it's not.

706
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.679
A big store. It's a big little store.

707
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:32.960
And the good news about the store is that there

708
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.079
were security cameras there and they had been filming the

709
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:41.119
night before, and it wasn't a regular recording camera. They

710
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.679
would come to find out, but it wouldn't necessarily be

711
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:48.880
to these investigators benefit. So this type of camera took

712
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:53.519
still shots every three seconds instead of a constant film,

713
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.639
so it was kind of like doot doot doote and

714
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.159
you would see someone move every three seconds, but they

715
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.000
go through and they're looking at the tape. And around

716
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.960
eleven thirty, there were a few shots of film that

717
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.280
catched the girl's car pulling in and they park right

718
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:09.199
in front of the window.

719
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:10.920
And this video is bad, y'all.

720
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:13.800
It's grainy, it's black and white, but you can still

721
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.760
kind of see what's going on. And about the same

722
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.719
time that the girls were at the gas station, another

723
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.480
vehicle pulled up as well, but it stopped by the

724
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.719
gas pumps. And this was not the vehicle of the

725
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.079
Miss Merrit and her daughter. It was a different vehicle.

726
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.760
This was a white truck, and it was believed to

727
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.440
be a Ford based on the what could partially.

728
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:35.519
Be seen in the film.

729
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.159
Interestingly, though, the entire time that the truck was there,

730
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.679
no one ever got out to pump gas. They never

731
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.440
got out to walk in the store either the store

732
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.679
was closed, they couldn't have, but they never got out

733
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.559
to pump the gas. So police were really interested on

734
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.920
just this front little cab shot of that vehicle and

735
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.119
what possibly could have been going on there. I'm not

736
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.639
going to go through the whole mundane situation here, but

737
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.599
they were able to track down the owner of that vehicle,

738
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.360
I'll tell you that, and they questioned this person to

739
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:06.440
the nth degree. When they finally realized that this actually

740
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:08.920
wasn't a big break at all, it was nowhere near

741
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.760
suspicious as they thought it would be. Basically, a man

742
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.679
had pulled into the gas station, the gas station was closed,

743
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.039
he changed his mind, and then he just went about

744
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.679
his business and pulled back onto the roadway. So I

745
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.559
previously mentioned to you that the girls got their directions

746
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.400
from Miss Merrit and her daughter, But how did I

747
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.199
know this whenever I was telling you the story. Well,

748
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:33.280
this is where good people just did their thing. And

749
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:34.719
that's the only way I know how to explain this.

750
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.599
Good people doing what good people do. Miss Merritt had

751
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.960
called the police whenever she saw the news the next

752
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.559
morning or the next afternoon that two young girls had

753
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.639
been murdered. She immediately grabbed the phone and dialed in

754
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.960
because the photos that were released sent a chill up

755
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.079
her spine, because she knew, without a shadow of a doubt,

756
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.039
those were those two sweet girls that I gave directions to,

757
00:37:58.119 --> 00:37:59.840
and oh my god, they're dead.

758
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.159
I just talked to those two girls.

759
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:06.480
So when she called in to give this information, she

760
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.639
was able to establish the firm timeline of the last

761
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.280
time the girls were seen alive. They knew about the

762
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.880
phone call, but they were able to really set in

763
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.039
stone when those girls were last seen alive. And she

764
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:24.719
couldn't help but feel this tinge of what if and

765
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:28.039
the I wish I would have, which was evidenced by

766
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:32.400
her interview with this local news station. But it was

767
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:34.800
only after the girls were dead that she came to

768
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.800
the realization that you know that something was ever gonna

769
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.199
happen to them, So I want you to listen. In

770
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.480
her words, it didn't matter that these girls were strangers.

771
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.519
It didn't matter that they were different races, it didn't

772
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.719
matter that they lived in different towns from one another.

773
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:53.880
It mattered to mis merit that these were someone's daughters.

774
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.719
And the sting that she felt, you're gonna it's just

775
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.559
a mama's heart on full display.

776
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:00.920
Go ahead, take a listen to this.

777
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.239
If I were able to do it over again, I

778
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.199
would have stayed there until they finished their phone call

779
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.880
and followed them out to two thirty one at least

780
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:13.599
and make sure that they were on the right track.

781
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.880
So we can all agree just by listening to that

782
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:21.000
and imagining just how devastating this was for so many people,

783
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:26.400
but directly, most directly for their families. It's just so

784
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.599
unnatural for a parent to have to bury a child.

785
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:31.559
It's not the way that nature intended it to be.

786
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.960
It's definitely not natural when such violence is the cause

787
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:36.280
of it.

788
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.880
So it's almost just too much to consider as truth.

789
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:45.320
So how could anyone think that it's okay to snuff

790
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.239
out the life of two young girls and then just

791
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.360
walk away like nothing happened.

792
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.280
What kind of human being can do that? I hope that.

793
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.039
Through listening to crime stories, if you're a fan of

794
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.920
true crime, It's always my goal to put myself in

795
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.679
these victims shoes and their family shoes, and to not

796
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.400
let it become so I don't want to ever become

797
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.599
so desensitized to what is going on here that I'm

798
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.079
just telling a story without saying this is just animal.

799
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:18.960
This is pure animal that could inflict such violence on

800
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.239
two young girls and then just leave them there. So,

801
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.000
back at the Medical Examiner's office, autopsies were now being performed.

802
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.320
Their bodies had been sent to the Central Alabama Forensic

803
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.840
Medicine Facility, which was in Montgomery. And if you're like me,

804
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.519
when I heard that the wallets and the purses were

805
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.800
still in the car, that ruled out robbery for me.

806
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.519
And if robbery was not the ultimate ultimate motive, then

807
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.840
I maybe I'm wrong, but I always go this had

808
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.000
had to be sex and motive. This had to be

809
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.960
sexually motivated. What other purpose would there be for these

810
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.159
girls to be murdered? In my mind, I thought they

811
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.239
had to have been accosted for sex. Maybe they refused,

812
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.239
and because of that rerif fusal, they were murdered. And

813
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.039
I came to that because they were still dressed, they

814
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:09.280
weren't naked, but I just my mind went there and

815
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.760
the autopsies that were done would find that both girls

816
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.400
were shot at what's going to be considered intermediate range.

817
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.760
This means that the gun wasn't pressed directly against their skin.

818
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.519
It was most likely just from like a couple of

819
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:26.440
inches to upwards of probably around two feet away whenever

820
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.000
the trigger was pulled. So basically, the gun was close

821
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.159
enough to their skin that the gunpowder from the bullet

822
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:35.559
it burned right so close enough to their skin that

823
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:40.119
it left small dots on their faces. A high point

824
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.320
nine millimeter pistol was believed to be the weapon that.

825
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.320
Was used to execute both of the girls.

826
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.519
Tracy was shot in her right temple and the bullet

827
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.039
went into her temple, but it was at a downward

828
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.000
angle and it exited right out of the front of

829
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:01.920
her left ear. Because of the situation, she was also

830
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.920
given a rape test kit, and the results showed that

831
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:09.920
she was not raped and she had no external or

832
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:15.760
internal injuries to her genitalia. JB was also shot in

833
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.880
the head, but her bullet entered into her right cheek

834
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.800
and the trajectory of the bullets travel it originated from

835
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.599
a higher angle whenever she was shot, it was a

836
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:30.079
higher angle than Tracy's at least, and so that resulted

837
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:34.440
in the bullet severing her spinal cord and exiting through

838
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:35.719
her upper neck area.

839
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:36.760
And I guess if you.

840
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.119
Need some sort of goodness out of this, if that

841
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.960
makes sense, maybe mercy is the word. The doctor said

842
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.800
that the spinal cord injury in and of itself would

843
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.000
have been fatal no matter what.

844
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:48.800
So I hope it was just quick.

845
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.840
And she too, was still given a rape test kit,

846
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:56.280
although she had no external or internal damage to her genitalia.

847
00:42:57.159 --> 00:42:59.920
But what was noted was that when the medical examiner

848
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.679
pulled off her pants, there was mud on the inside

849
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:10.360
of JB's jeans, not just on the outside. So that

850
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.800
makes you kind of wonder why would one girl have

851
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.320
mud on the inside and the other one not. Rape

852
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:20.840
test kit was given and there would be DNA recovered

853
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.480
from JB's kit. The sperm fragments were recovered from her

854
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:31.000
panties from her brawl, and there was also a stain

855
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.400
on her sweater. So while DNA was obtained, this is

856
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:40.679
a great thing as far as the investigation goes. Sickeningly,

857
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.320
I'm just gonna tell you it led nowhere. They got

858
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:51.159
nothing from this DNA except a profile. So JB was

859
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:56.800
buried first and then Tracy was buried afterwards, but no

860
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.960
arrests were made. They had time to be fa have

861
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:05.199
their autopsies done, their families plan their funerals, hold their funerals.

862
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.400
The start of their senior year rolled around. The students

863
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.000
were still in shock. It had only been a couple

864
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:18.119
of weeks, but still nobody was arrested for this. The

865
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.679
start of the school year for the seniors at their

866
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.719
high school involved answering a questionnaire that was provided by

867
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:28.320
the police on their whereabouts the night of the girl's murders.

868
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.920
To tell you how serious this was. Nobody walked away

869
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:37.400
from this unscathed. Everyone was scared. Were the girls targeted

870
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.519
by a serial killer who wanted to target young girls?

871
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.199
Was it just wrong place, wrong time? Why?

872
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.719
All of these questions were just now unanswered. But police

873
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:53.440
know this. I don't care what happens. People are going

874
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:57.880
to talk. It may take time, but that rumor mill

875
00:44:57.920 --> 00:44:59.199
always starts.

876
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.960
A turning some people, and you know this, we all

877
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:03.199
know this.

878
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.320
But some people like to make drama where there isn't

879
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.800
any there's also some people who like to make assumptions

880
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.079
and then based on those assumptions, whether they're true or not,

881
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:14.559
they are going to pose them to other people as

882
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:19.239
if they're fact. But then there's also snippets of truth

883
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.920
in there that can come to light. And considering the

884
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:26.920
social fact of how the world works, police decided to

885
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.880
establish a tip line to try and gain leads. And

886
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.719
as you can imagine, the tips start rolling in hand

887
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.480
over fists and the police are tasked with tracking down

888
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:39.320
every single lead. They can't leave any of it unlooked at,

889
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.119
So these never really were painting out to anything. But

890
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:48.960
eventually a really large reward was offered. They got donations

891
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.079
and from all over y'all. I mean, I think the

892
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.599
maybe it was the governor's office that even they gave

893
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:59.760
money towards this. Just nice townfolk gave up their money

894
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.599
to to this reward because people wanted this solved, and

895
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.280
if people won't talk for free, maybe money will do

896
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:11.639
some convincing. But nothing again really came to be until

897
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.320
about a month after the girls were murdered and that

898
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.559
reward was made known. A man by the name of

899
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.360
Johnny bearnine would call in and give some information on

900
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.920
what he said he had seen. Now, Johnny was a

901
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.679
tall and skinny, white guy. He's in his twenties. He

902
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.880
was working as a part time mechanic in the area,

903
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:32.639
and he was also the father to a two and

904
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:35.159
a half year old child. He had lived there his

905
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.320
entire life. He knew the area, and he believed that

906
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:41.480
he had seen the girls the night that they died.

907
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:44.119
So he went into the police station and he was

908
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.480
willing to answer any questions that the police had and

909
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:51.559
that questioning turned into nearly four hours of questioning.

910
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:53.360
Now why four hours?

911
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.159
I want to address this because the questioning seemed to

912
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.960
bring up more questions than answers, and his story would

913
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.360
have just a slight shift in it, and then that

914
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:06.440
would open up even more questions. And so what started

915
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.360
out is what would be kind of a little interview

916
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:11.199
about what he had seen. It just snowballed into this

917
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.679
four hour interrogation. The basic story that Johnny gave was

918
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.000
that he had been hit by a black truck at

919
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:18.760
some point while he was out. He was going to

920
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.360
get some milk, and the stranger then asked him for

921
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:23.960
a ride to the store. Johnny agreed, sure, I'll give

922
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:25.880
you a ride to the store, and that's when they

923
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.719
got to the store and the stranger got out and

924
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.239
laid eyes on the girls, and so the stranger looked

925
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.079
to Johnny and said, I'm gonna go talk to them.

926
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.480
So Johnny watched as he walked over there, and then

927
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.599
the conversation went that the man basically said, look, I

928
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.519
can show y'all a quick way to the interstate if

929
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.400
you don't know how to get there. So the man

930
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:50.719
got in the car with the girls. Johnny stayed in

931
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:55.079
his truck, and then he followed behind them towards the interstate.

932
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.159
Once they got to a stop sign. At some point,

933
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.760
the man and the girls got in to an argument,

934
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.960
and Johnny watched as the stranger shoved the girls into

935
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:11.000
their trunk and shot them, and then he jumped back

936
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:17.519
into Johnny's truck and they drove away. Obviously, anybody with

937
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.719
a brain right now would find this story a super

938
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:27.840
convenient and be completely disjointed and fraught with tons more

939
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.920
questions now than what you feel like should have been said,

940
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:33.480
you know, or that you could have derived from this

941
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.239
area of questioning. And the police felt the same way

942
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.039
because everything within the story that he was giving was disjointed,

943
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.239
and at times, the more questions they asked, it didn't

944
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:47.320
even match the evidence. It didn't even make sense. So

945
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.880
when police finally had had enough of the lies and

946
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:54.679
of the inconsistencies, and Johnny was really now looking a

947
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:56.800
lot like a guy who may have killed two girls,

948
00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.679
they went ahead and they placed him under arrest for

949
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:05.440
the of JB and Tracy. The thing was, people from

950
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.760
the area weren't so sure that was true. They just

951
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.840
did not believe a lot of them said they just

952
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:15.840
did not believe he was capable of such violence against

953
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:18.800
these girls. And look, while that's nice and all, I've

954
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.960
learned in my life that anyone is capable of anything

955
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:28.599
on any day. Anyone your best friends can turn on

956
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.360
you in a heartbeat. The kindest people in town can

957
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:38.000
be murderers, and those you trust can be absolute, pure evil.

958
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.280
I have learned that in my time on this earth,

959
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:46.800
and so lots of questions to me have been answered

960
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.519
by not answering them, if that makes sense. But people

961
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:54.119
in town just weren't buying it. Well, if the police

962
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.920
spent weeks looking for this so called stranger that Johnny

963
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.960
said that he had given a ride to YadA, yadayada.

964
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:01.519
Of course that led nowhere.

965
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:04.000
There was no stranger that they could find, so it

966
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.920
just basically looked like old Johnny was lying. And the

967
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.159
thing about lying is that he placed himself at the scene.

968
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:17.039
He placed himself there when the girls were murdered. But

969
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:20.320
he also then gave this fake story about the so

970
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:22.800
called man he gave a ride to, so it was

971
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.079
all over the place. But he was adamant at what

972
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.679
he had seen. So, like I said, he was arrested

973
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:29.599
and he was charged with it, and he would be

974
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:32.440
headed for trial for the murders of the two girls.

975
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:39.320
But that's when the seamen stain found on JB's clothing

976
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:43.679
came back into play. This would be the best evidence

977
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:49.880
ever against somebody. So the District Attorney's office went ahead

978
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.760
and they got Johnny's DNA. It was collected and it

979
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:54.320
was sent off to the lab. Because all we gotta

980
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.719
do is compared the two and hook line and sinker,

981
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:01.519
We've got our killer. A few weeks later, heads would

982
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:05.159
freaking turn when the report came back because it was

983
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.599
not a match for the semen found on JB.

984
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:14.119
Johnny Bearentine did not match that DNA.

985
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:16.960
That's a big issue, okay, especially if you think that

986
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:18.519
he was the one that did this. So where did

987
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:22.440
the seamen come from If it wasn't Johnny's It's just

988
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.639
not driving. So the grand jury that he went before

989
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.239
also had some serious reservations about his involvement, considering the

990
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.119
key facts were inconsistent or really just dead ass wrong.

991
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:34.800
In a lot of instances, the DNA didn't match in

992
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:38.440
the rape kit. So ultimately there was a failure to indict.

993
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:41.519
I mean, all the charges were dropped and Johnny was

994
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:45.280
released because when it was all said and done, it

995
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:50.320
wasn't that some pooral guy in town was targeted. It

996
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:54.960
wasn't that the mean old police were after this guy.

997
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:59.119
It was none of that. The answer is pure greed,

998
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:00.880
is what happened.

999
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:05.960
Johnny had inserted himself into this investigation because he saw

1000
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:10.000
a huge payout if he gave some information on the case.

1001
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:15.000
Remember that fifty thousand dollars reward that I mentioned, Well,

1002
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.159
that had Johnny chomping at the bit. Not only that,

1003
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:22.880
wasting law enforcement's time, wasting their resources, as well as

1004
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:26.199
pulling on the emotions of the girl's families, all in

1005
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:29.159
the name of the almighty dollar. So while a lot

1006
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.039
of people feel sorry for Johnny. If you ever do

1007
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:34.760
any research on this case, I don't A killer was

1008
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.679
on the loose, two girls were dead, the police were

1009
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.599
now back at square one with all of their time wasted,

1010
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:43.280
and all of this because you wanted to lie to

1011
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:44.159
make some money.

1012
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.320
Shame on you. That's horrible.

1013
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:53.000
But at least the DNA was still there, and clearly

1014
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:55.280
they had to identify this DNA. We got to figure

1015
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:57.360
out who it belongs to. So this is where Codis

1016
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:01.199
comes into play. So Codis is a software that forensic

1017
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.159
labs use to upload unknown DNA samples and then they

1018
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:10.079
can hopefully more rapidly get back any type of match

1019
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.840
that there might be from all known samples that are

1020
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:14.679
in the database.

1021
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.639
It's an awesome tool. I'm a huge proponent of it.

1022
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.159
I think it's great and it can turn back results

1023
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.400
obviously much faster than a person ever could do it

1024
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:26.039
by hand or by eye, having to go through all

1025
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.440
of the comparisons. So if you're not familiar with this,

1026
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:31.280
I just I want to give a little titbit of jeopardy.

1027
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:31.719
I guess.

1028
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.960
But Codis was invented by the FBI, but it's not

1029
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.519
that old. It just started in nineteen ninety as a

1030
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:42.559
pilot project. But in nineteen ninety four that's when Congress

1031
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.280
passed what's called the DNA Identification Act, and that authorized

1032
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:50.239
the FBI to establish CODIS, and it became fully operational

1033
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.280
in nineteen ninety eight. Think about the timeframe that all

1034
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:56.960
of this case is going down. Now, not all states

1035
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.000
have the same laws on DNA collection, but we're certainly

1036
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:05.239
moving towards a standardization of this. But this database and

1037
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:09.719
CODIS can search local, state, national, It can look at

1038
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.920
all of these profiles and not only can it match DNA,

1039
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:15.360
but it can also link crimes.

1040
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:17.119
I think that's the coolest thing.

1041
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:19.719
You could commit a crime in Arizona, your DNA is

1042
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.199
put into the database, and then you come to Louisiana

1043
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.760
commit a crime. We don't know who you are, and

1044
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:28.440
then when we I don't know, we arrest you or whatever.

1045
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:30.159
We can get your DNA and we can run it

1046
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.679
and not only can we see that you were convicted

1047
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:34.760
in that other state for the crime, but your DNA

1048
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:36.599
is now matched in Louisiana and we can see that

1049
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:37.480
you're maybe went on.

1050
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.239
A crime spree everywhere. It's kind of neat, so.

1051
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:43.920
The issue, though, like I said, is that it's the

1052
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:47.639
database is going to compare against known offenders to the police.

1053
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.679
That means people who have already been arrested or convicted

1054
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.159
of crimes. And also it depends on what crime you're

1055
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:55.920
arrested for whether we take DNA or not. So this

1056
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.519
means if you've never been arrested or convicted of these

1057
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.280
certain crimes, it doesn't have your DNA in it. How

1058
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:03.719
could it, think about it, No blood is taken from

1059
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:05.880
you at birth or anything like that, and uploaded it

1060
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:09.679
into a system. So the killer's DNA in this case

1061
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:14.079
was uploaded into COTIS and it was searched against one million,

1062
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:17.760
eight hundred and fourteen thousand, nine hundred and twenty nine

1063
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:24.119
known profiles, and sickeningly, there were no matches to this DNA.

1064
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:25.840
That's insane.

1065
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:28.519
I would have fully expected someone who's willing to murder

1066
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.639
two girls to be committing other crimes and be caught.

1067
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:33.679
It's also scary, if you think about it, that they

1068
00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:37.440
hadn't already been caught for anything else. So all of

1069
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:39.719
this work and all this effort that's been put in

1070
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:42.800
to trying to solve this case, it hadn't gotten anywhere,

1071
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.440
and as is common, the community wanted it solved, and

1072
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:50.599
they now though, started to question the police, why can't

1073
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.840
you solve such a horrendous crime. They must not be

1074
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:57.239
taking this case seriously. They must not be using their

1075
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:02.039
time wisely. And while I don't speak for any specific agency,

1076
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:04.840
I don't represent any specific agency, I will say this,

1077
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.960
it hurts to think that a lot of these officers

1078
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.119
are working twelve hours a day, sometimes seven days a

1079
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.599
week to try to solve these murders, and in this case,

1080
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:18.199
specifically of these two girls, and these same girls who

1081
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:21.039
these officers said that they lost their composure at the

1082
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.800
scene because it just hurt their hearts. They're haunted by

1083
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:26.559
their faces at night. Yet the evidence is so lacking

1084
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:31.119
that you're not getting anywhere, and then you arrested someone

1085
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:34.400
who ultimately wasted all of your time. And now we've

1086
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:39.360
got these websites places where people go online, and we

1087
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.639
have them locally, you have them everywhere, you know what

1088
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:45.239
I'm talking about, where every numb nut in society gets

1089
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:49.840
to give their uneducated and often incorrect opinion on what's happening.

1090
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:54.079
And for some reason, people take what these people that

1091
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:56.719
have nothing to do with the investigation have to say

1092
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:01.000
as fact as if that's really what's going on is

1093
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.280
it is ignorance at its finest. So then you have

1094
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.400
a community now who needs someone to be angry at.

1095
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:12.000
And since the murderer is unnamed, the police start taking

1096
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:13.800
the brunt of the anger. And I'm gonna tell you

1097
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.320
it's not fair. It's not fair if you see how

1098
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:20.159
hard these people work on these cases. An example being

1099
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:22.960
when people jumped online, why the hell didn't they open

1100
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.679
the trunk of the car? Well, guess what they didn't.

1101
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:29.440
I don't know the reason why. I don't have it

1102
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:34.320
for you, but guess what else. That's how policy, procedure,

1103
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:39.239
and protocol are created in business and in government. We

1104
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:43.039
learn hindsight is twenty twenty, and I've found out that

1105
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:46.760
now procedure has changed in that agency that if there

1106
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.760
are ever similar circumstances where they come upon a vehicle

1107
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:53.000
with the similar type of situation, opening the trunk is

1108
00:57:53.039 --> 00:58:00.199
not only mandatory, it is expected. Those girls made that change. Okay,

1109
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:02.840
it is what it is, but it's not because there's

1110
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:05.360
a bunch of idiots that are running this investigation. You

1111
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.400
live and you learn, and I'm gonna tell you this too.

1112
00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:12.800
If those girls had been fine and had been located

1113
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:16.039
just later that day, society also would have been screaming

1114
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:20.639
that the police then violated expected privacy when they opened

1115
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:22.159
the vehicle without permission.

1116
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.320
I guarantee you that would have happened.

1117
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.880
It's damned if you do, and it's damned if you don't.

1118
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:31.599
So now, with the DNA and no name connected to it,

1119
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:35.719
combined with a fake confession and having to release that guy,

1120
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:38.320
the police didn't have much else to go on, so

1121
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:41.800
they would think up really more creative ways of trying

1122
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:45.320
to spark information. This included sharing the case with America's

1123
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.599
Most Wanted, which was super popular at the time. Miss Merritt.

1124
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:53.599
She also was brought in and she underwent hypnotizing to

1125
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:55.519
see what they could.

1126
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:56.400
Pull from that, if anything.

1127
00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:58.719
And look, I know that method sounds kind of cuckoo,

1128
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.559
I really do, but it has been proven to work,

1129
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.440
not in all cases, but the possibility is there that

1130
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:08.159
it could have turned into something, And so it becomes

1131
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.239
one of those don't knock it till you try its situations,

1132
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:13.559
especially when you're limited on leads. So a little info

1133
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.400
about this if you're just not familiar with it. Hypnosis

1134
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.159
in and of itself is basically when a person enters

1135
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:23.079
a complete physical and mental relaxation, and so there's three

1136
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:27.599
levels that people enter. Ninety percent of people who are

1137
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.639
attempted to be hypnotized and are just a very light depth,

1138
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.960
they remember everything and it's not really that much of

1139
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:39.119
a difference. The medium depth is where recollection of what

1140
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:42.360
just happened gets really hazy. But only about ten percent

1141
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.519
of people actually experience that deep trance that we think.

1142
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:48.519
Of when we think being hypnotized.

1143
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:53.599
This can't be done in formal suspect interrogations either it's

1144
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:55.480
not going to be used in court, it's not admissible

1145
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.280
or anything like that, but it can aid witnesses in

1146
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:02.639
recalling important events. And it works because the mental fatigue

1147
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:07.199
of the really really strong concentration over long periods of

1148
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.840
time that doesn't develop if you're actually hypnotized. And so

1149
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:14.159
the studies of all of this show that a witness

1150
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:19.000
is more accurate and can really be more vivid in

1151
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.719
what they saw when they're in a hypnotized state rather

1152
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:26.239
than in a regular awake state. And it also last thing,

1153
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:27.400
I'm not going to go on and on it, but

1154
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.719
it also and this is kind of neat. It limits

1155
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:36.039
overlying emotional factors that can inhibit a person's understanding.

1156
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:38.079
Of what they saw or what they experience.

1157
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:39.960
It takes the emotion out of it and makes it

1158
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:43.320
more of I saw this, and it takes away that

1159
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:45.480
feeling that people might feel where I don't know if

1160
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:48.360
I should say this, it doesn't quite feel right or

1161
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.679
whatever it might be. So like if something happened to

1162
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:55.360
someone when they were a child, it can take away

1163
01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:57.840
a lot of that stress where they're able to just

1164
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:01.679
voice it without all of the constraints of being judged

1165
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.519
and things of that nature. So I know that's probably

1166
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:06.199
more than you wanted to know, but I wanted you

1167
01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:10.199
to understand the concept of why hypnotization is used. Nothing

1168
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:13.719
though after they did, all of those things came up.

1169
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.119
But the police didn't give up.

1170
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:21.760
But time kept passing, and Jabie's mom was just devastated

1171
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.480
in the lack of progress in this case, so she

1172
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:27.000
even decided to go off on her own, and she

1173
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:29.960
went on the very popular at the time Maury Povits show,

1174
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:32.920
where she discussed her experience and what had happened to

1175
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.719
her daughter and blessed her heart y'all in those videos,

1176
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:38.519
because I watched if you go look it up, But

1177
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:42.719
she shook as she cried at her baby's violent death

1178
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.719
and that nobody was being held accountable for it, and

1179
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:51.119
just time was passing, So everyone's involvement, everyone who had

1180
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.599
involvement in this case was hurting and they were trying

1181
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:57.920
their best to try to find an answer. Not only this,

1182
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:00.840
but Tracy's little brothers remember how how her mom remarried

1183
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:05.159
and had two younger brothers. Her little brothers started struggling.

1184
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:10.480
They couldn't understand why. When they watched TV of crime shows,

1185
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:14.320
it was solved in an hour, but their sister has

1186
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.440
been dead and murdered for a long time and nothing

1187
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.880
in real life was happening like that. Their sister was gone,

1188
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.519
she was stolen from them. No one's ever been arrested,

1189
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:26.119
and that's not the way it's supposed to go. Kids

1190
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:27.039
only have TV to.

1191
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:27.519
Go off of.

1192
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.880
It wasn't going that way, And unfortunately, as time passes,

1193
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:39.920
people start to forget pain, eases, urgency, and fear. Sometimes

1194
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:44.679
they just start subsiding. But not for those families. They

1195
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:49.480
continued to have memorials and anniversaries to showcase that this

1196
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:53.480
is still open that we have no closure to what

1197
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:57.559
happened here. Crosses were erected at the site where the

1198
01:02:57.599 --> 01:02:59.880
car was found. The mam has continued to go visit

1199
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:04.360
after year, just trying and hoping and praying for an answer.

1200
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:10.360
A year would pass, then three, then five, then ten,

1201
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:12.559
Still no answers.

1202
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:12.920
Y'all.

1203
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:16.159
Ten years went by. Tracy's once younger brothers were now

1204
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:19.559
legally recognized as men. They were older than their sister

1205
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.800
was at the age she was murdered. Still no answers.

1206
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:27.119
By year fifteen, I'd be lying if I said that.

1207
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:29.440
Everyone was like, Oh, we're going to solve it. We're

1208
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:31.199
going to solve it. No, it was really starting to

1209
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.320
seem like someone was going to get away with this

1210
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:39.239
double murder. As year sixteen rolled around, it had now

1211
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:43.679
been over one hundred and forty thousand, one hundred hours

1212
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:46.239
with no arrest. And we all know that if you

1213
01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:48.639
don't solve a case or have a suspect within the

1214
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.320
first forty eight that's a bad thing. Now it's been

1215
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.480
sixteen years, but a woman would come forward and her

1216
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:59.079
name was Renee Crumb, and she said that she knew

1217
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:02.559
something about the case because the thing is. As time passes,

1218
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.280
people get older and people who maybe shut their mouth

1219
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:11.159
before their conscience sometimes catches up with them, and.

1220
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:12.559
This was one of those situations.

1221
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:16.639
It was her conscience mixed with fear that kind of

1222
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:19.519
made her want to speak to police. What happened was

1223
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:24.559
a blogger got wind of Renee's supposed story and wrote

1224
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.239
a post about it online, and now, with the Internet

1225
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.920
being the way that it is, it got passed and

1226
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.000
passed and passed and passed and passed, and so.

1227
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:32.760
It blew up.

1228
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:37.920
Basically, the story was that years ago, Renee was at

1229
01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:40.360
a party where she was having a good time. Everybody

1230
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.519
was drinking and everybody's running their mouth. And at this party,

1231
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:46.360
she said, there was a police officer who got drunkard

1232
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:49.400
and Cooter Brown and began running his mouth, and he

1233
01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:53.480
told her how he killed JB. He never should have

1234
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:57.000
done it, and that other people at the party were

1235
01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:59.360
supposedly saying, oh, we got your back, man, we would

1236
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:02.920
never say any thing. And then this police officer added

1237
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:07.159
that if you if you say anything, I'll kill you. Well,

1238
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:10.639
when the question of why did you kill the girls

1239
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:13.639
came up at the party, supposedly the man said, oh,

1240
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.760
I was dating her and she pissed me off, so

1241
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:21.400
I killed her. Renee took this to mean that a

1242
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:25.079
police officer or a police cover up had happened, and

1243
01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.880
because this was a small town, she didn't want all

1244
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:31.239
the police after her. So on top of that, that

1245
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:34.119
officer had supposedly threatened her, so she had just decided

1246
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:36.079
to keep her mouth shut so that she didn't draw

1247
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.559
on one of the attention to herself. And when all

1248
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.920
of this got spread online, obviously the police department was

1249
01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:43.719
shook by the claim that it might be one of

1250
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:49.239
their own, so they enacted this exhaustive investigation. They looked

1251
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:51.679
into everybody that was on the force at that time

1252
01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:56.239
lee a person after person, file after file, questions, background,

1253
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:57.920
where were you, who were you dating this, that and

1254
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:01.760
the other, and no matter what happened. After they went

1255
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:07.840
through everybody, police found zero links between any officers and JB.

1256
01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:12.159
Beasley nor Tracy. None of them had any type of links,

1257
01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:16.840
no phone conversations, no phone calls, no texting, no friends

1258
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.760
that stopped by at the house, no family connections, nothing.

1259
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:24.559
No one on the force had been seeing JB. There

1260
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:28.440
was also no evidence to support the claim about any

1261
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:31.559
of this, so the police department ended up filing a

1262
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:35.480
lawsuit against not only the blogger but also Renee Crumb

1263
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:41.400
for defamation of character. But the blogger then filed bankruptcy

1264
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.880
and so the whole lawsuit was dropped. So, now even

1265
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.199
more time had passed, the police were still nowhere closer

1266
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.480
to solving the case. Cotis was still periodically running the

1267
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:53.719
DNA to see if any new matches in the DNA

1268
01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.679
could be made, but nothing was ever flagged. But as

1269
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:00.360
luck would have it, California was about to have a

1270
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:05.239
huge break in a massive cold case, and that case

1271
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.519
would be the Golden State Killer. So as the news

1272
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:12.000
broke on the use of genetic genealogy as the tool

1273
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.360
that would break the case wide open, it just so

1274
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:19.559
happened that a detective that was newly brought on to

1275
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:23.079
the case of JB and Tracy was watching that newscast

1276
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:27.480
and he was really intrigued by this new science that

1277
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:29.960
was being used to solve old cases, and so his

1278
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:31.440
wheels really got turning.

1279
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:34.639
Look, this case is over twenty years old. We can't

1280
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:35.079
crack it.

1281
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:37.639
So when he got back to work the next week,

1282
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:41.679
he jumped on the phone and he started calling California. Hey, man,

1283
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:43.760
tell me how this works, what's the process, how did

1284
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.800
y'all do it? What's going on with this? And that

1285
01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:51.039
phone call would end up being the break investigators needed.

1286
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:55.320
It would take an additional five months, but they followed

1287
01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:59.079
suit with California and they submitted the DNA from JB's

1288
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:03.519
rape kit genealogy processing. When they set off this DNA

1289
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:07.159
and they got the results back, believe it or not,

1290
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:11.159
the chief of police at the time was kind of

1291
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:13.840
surprised by what came back and was put on his desk.

1292
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:16.560
This guy's name was Marlos Walker. Okay, he was the

1293
01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:18.560
serving police chief in twenty nineteen when all of this

1294
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:21.520
went down, and he was actually the one to submit

1295
01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:25.600
the DNA and receive the list of possible relatives to

1296
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:28.520
the DNA donor of the sperm on JB. And when

1297
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:30.520
that list came back, he was blown out of the

1298
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.000
seat at one of the names on the list, and

1299
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:35.479
it was a guy that he actually went to school

1300
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:38.680
with and knew personally. They went to high school together.

1301
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:41.760
He was a popular guy. They played football and basketball

1302
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:44.000
and all that kind of stuff. But now as an adult,

1303
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:47.359
this guy was a truck driver, but he was also

1304
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:51.079
an ordained minister. And this guy's name was Coley McCraney,

1305
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.239
now Coley. Just a little background him. He's married with

1306
01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:58.600
two kids of his own. These are good people. They

1307
01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:00.640
are regarded as living the life, live in the dream.

1308
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:06.199
They were happily married, their kids were successful, good teenagers.

1309
01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:09.119
His own daughter, by the way, was the same age

1310
01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:11.479
of the girls that were murdered back in the day.

1311
01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:15.039
So the Chief's thoughts were, you know, he'll really understand

1312
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:17.760
how important this is, and maybe that'll be a pull

1313
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:19.520
on his heart that his own daughter is the same

1314
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:23.840
age of these girls. So Minister Coley was in the

1315
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:26.560
process of now starting his own church, a dream that

1316
01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:29.039
he had been having and was going to make come true.

1317
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:32.840
So when Chief Walker called him to come in look

1318
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:36.000
at the family tree and ask him, will you give

1319
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:39.119
your DNA sample so that we can get even closer

1320
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.800
to whoever this suspect might be, Coley told his wife.

1321
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:45.880
They jumped in the car and drove down to the

1322
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:50.439
police department as requested. And this was an awesome chain

1323
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:53.399
of events. What are the chances of the chief actually

1324
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:56.479
knowing someone personally on the list, and then a minister

1325
01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:59.960
to boot like, thank god, this is a great break

1326
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:00.920
that he's gotten.

1327
01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:02.680
So Coley shows up.

1328
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:05.800
He looks through the list of names, gave a little

1329
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:08.359
bit of information if he knew anyone or anything, and

1330
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:11.279
then he submitted an oral swab of his DNA to

1331
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:14.840
the police. They shook hands, thanked Coley. We appreciate this

1332
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:17.720
so much. We'll let you know and maybe we can

1333
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:18.960
solve this case together.

1334
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:19.640
No problem.

1335
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:24.239
The DNA was promptly sent off and maybe, just maybe

1336
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:27.600
they would get results back that could possibly lead them

1337
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:31.479
to a violent rapist and double murderer. So a little

1338
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:35.359
time goes by, the phone rings and it's the crime

1339
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:39.840
lab with the data for Chief Walker. And the crime

1340
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:44.720
lab confirmed not only was the DNA related to the killer,

1341
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:52.319
whoever gave that DNA sample was the killer. Chief Walker

1342
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:55.520
is like, wait what no, no, no, no, no, that was

1343
01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:58.399
the sample we gave to find a killer.

1344
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:00.199
And the crime.

1345
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:04.600
Lab repeated, whoever you got that DNA from is who

1346
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:12.319
left the sperm on JB's body. Unbelievably, the minister himself

1347
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:17.960
was a direct match to the seamen collected off of

1348
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:22.760
the body of JV JB. Chief Walker was in so

1349
01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:26.800
much shock he had to like get it together before

1350
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:30.520
he made the phone call to let everybody know, Look,

1351
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:32.119
McCraney that.

1352
01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:33.600
Was in here. He's the one.

1353
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:36.000
He's going to be wanted for these girls murders and

1354
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:39.720
he needs to be apprehended right now. So officers set

1355
01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:42.159
out to capture Coli and they find him on the road.

1356
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.239
He was driving his big rig. They enacted a traffic stop,

1357
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.119
pulled him over, took him into custody, no problem. So

1358
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.760
he's taken down to the station and he's brought into

1359
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:54.680
an interrogation room, still handcuffed, and he's set into a

1360
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:56.640
chair in the corner of the room, and you know,

1361
01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:00.159
an interrogation room is really small. The investigators come in

1362
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:04.640
and they ask him point blank, have you ever met

1363
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:09.479
Tracy or JB. You know, the two girls that were

1364
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.319
murdered and the case that you came and you gave

1365
01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:13.039
your DNA for.

1366
01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:15.000
Have you ever met them?

1367
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:15.600
No?

1368
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:18.119
Have you ever spoken to them?

1369
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:18.319
No?

1370
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:20.920
Have you ever do you even know who they are?

1371
01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:21.479
No?

1372
01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:26.840
He never saw them in his life.

1373
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.039
And that's when they told him, well, your DNA shirt

1374
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.720
has matched the sperm found on one of the victims.

1375
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:36.880
So you can either explain what happened or you can

1376
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:40.079
just let the evidence speak for itself. So Coley's eyes

1377
01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:43.199
are wide open, his breathing is very rapid. You can

1378
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:45.359
see it clearly in the video. His shirt is moving

1379
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:48.760
with his heartbeat. And he immediately asked for a lawyer.

1380
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:52.000
So the investigator reminds him, look, you can have a lawyer,

1381
01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:54.840
but that's not going to change the evidence. And so

1382
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.640
while he's saying this, he lays out photos of the

1383
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:00.159
dead girls in front of him on the table, and

1384
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.279
Coley looks at the photos and then says, so, I

1385
01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:07.039
don't get a lawyer. So the officer then looked up,

1386
01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:11.000
he looked Coley directly in his eyes, and he said, no,

1387
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:14.560
you're gonna get a lawyer. And he then picked up

1388
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:16.760
the photos from the table and he like shoved them

1389
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:21.000
into his folder with obvious disgust, adding, whoever did this,

1390
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:28.960
whoever brutally murdered these young girls and savagely raped them,

1391
01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:33.840
that's a savage Coley then just cocked his head to

1392
01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:36.640
the side, crossed his arms in front of his chest,

1393
01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:39.520
kind of in defiance, and said, I want a lawyer.

1394
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:44.680
I don't know about you. That does not seem very

1395
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:47.600
minister like. I don't know what you would expect, but

1396
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:51.079
that's not what I expected. So meanwhile, Coley's wife, her

1397
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:54.039
name is Jeanette. She and her family were advised of

1398
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:56.319
what was taking place, and they flat out didn't believe it,

1399
01:13:57.159 --> 01:14:00.479
no freaking way. And I can imagine that the dad

1400
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.680
and the husband that they knew was nowhere near the

1401
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:06.159
twenty five year old man who was believed to have

1402
01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:12.199
murdered and raped these girls. But then again, y'all, DNA

1403
01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.920
don't lie. There are facts and then there's feelings. And

1404
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:19.720
as for me, I believe the facts, but a lot

1405
01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:22.720
of people in town didn't want to believe it, and

1406
01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:26.000
they started this rumor that it was a setup because

1407
01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.119
he was black and the police wanted to pin it

1408
01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:32.159
on someone it had been too long. Okay, well, I

1409
01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:34.479
understand if people want to get all up in their emotions,

1410
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:37.520
but why would the police? You have to ask yourself this,

1411
01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:41.000
Why would the police set up someone twenty years later

1412
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:45.560
that no one would believe could do it? A minister,

1413
01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:48.079
of all people? Why would they pick a minister? That

1414
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:50.520
would be the dumbest move I've ever heard of. Wouldn't

1415
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:53.119
you want to pick some vagrant who has no ties.

1416
01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:53.520
To the community.

1417
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:56.359
If you were that evil, you wouldn't pick somebody that

1418
01:14:56.439 --> 01:15:00.680
was beloved. And also, I'll tell you it turned out

1419
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:02.880
that back then Coley lived less than a mile from

1420
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:04.159
one of the girls car was found.

1421
01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:09.119
So race then became a big issue in the media.

1422
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.439
A black man is now being set up for killing

1423
01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:14.840
white girls, and to me, this really cheapens the death

1424
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:17.680
of the girls. And it also makes me angry because

1425
01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:20.640
the media didn't mention that the chief of police was

1426
01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:23.880
also black. You know, the very man who broke this

1427
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:27.640
case open and called for the arrest of Coley, he.

1428
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:28.319
Was black too.

1429
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:33.119
Also, all of that aside the DNA guys, the damn DNA.

1430
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:36.079
The police didn't have spit, they didn't have sweat, they

1431
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:37.000
didn't have a thumbprint.

1432
01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:37.960
They had seamen.

1433
01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:41.720
That doesn't just appear on a young girl's body, you

1434
01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.800
know what I'm saying, And definitely not in her panties

1435
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:46.000
and not on her brawl.

1436
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:48.439
It doesn't just happen to get there.

1437
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:53.239
So Coley is charged with capital murder as well as rape,

1438
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:56.520
and his defense then started pointing out that witness Renee

1439
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:58.680
Crum said, oh no, it was a cop.

1440
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:00.159
Remember it was a cop.

1441
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:02.520
But when they went back and they questioned her, again,

1442
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:04.800
Renee then admitted, all right, I was lying.

1443
01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:05.720
I made it up.

1444
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:09.840
She said I was also threatened. So if I'm ever

1445
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:12.199
called to court, I'm just gonna say I lied. And

1446
01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:14.800
that's exactly what she did. So when she went to court,

1447
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:16.239
she said I lied.

1448
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:17.520
None of that is true.

1449
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:20.880
So regardless of whether she lied or she didn't lie,

1450
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:23.279
to me, that was all smoke and mirrors. Because you

1451
01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:27.600
can't change the DNA. That can't be explained, there's no

1452
01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:35.199
explanation for it. So during during the trial, when Coley's wife,

1453
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:38.720
Jeanette was brought to testify, she gave lots of insight

1454
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:40.760
to the night that the girls were murdered, which is

1455
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.199
odd to me. You can remember twenty years back, and

1456
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:45.399
I'm not judging this woman. I'm just saying that's kind

1457
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:47.840
of odd. You can remember a specific day twenty years back,

1458
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:50.880
and she said that the two of them were together,

1459
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:54.159
and then she got a call because Coley said his

1460
01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:56.520
car battery had died that night, and she went to

1461
01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:59.319
the little Big store to jump him off. And I'm

1462
01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:01.319
gonna tell you, Janet, that comes across to me as

1463
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:05.039
an honest woman and a good woman. But she also

1464
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.760
i think believes in a man blindly too. Her own

1465
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:12.680
statements place him at the very place that the girls

1466
01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:16.279
were the last time that they were ever seen. But

1467
01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:21.039
Coley also decided to take the stand, and wouldn't you know,

1468
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:25.920
once he's on the stand, the minister, who never met

1469
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:29.520
the girls in his life, did not know their names,

1470
01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:32.680
never saw them, never had an interaction with them, and

1471
01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:38.359
his entire life, now says that not only did he

1472
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:44.000
know them, but he knew JB really, really well. Because

1473
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:46.560
it turns out he now says that he met JB

1474
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.720
at the mall and he gave JB his number, and

1475
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.279
she called him the very night of the murders and

1476
01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:57.359
they met up at his truck where they had consensual sex.

1477
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.600
So I'm guessing Trey just sat out in the car

1478
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:04.359
in the middle of a bad part of town while

1479
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:06.960
her friend was hooking up with a stranger in his truck,

1480
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:14.159
and then when they were done, they took him and

1481
01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:17.720
drove him back to his wife. Is this Michael one

1482
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:20.960
to his wife? The minister, They took him back to

1483
01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:24.039
his wife, who then brought him back to his truck

1484
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:28.560
at the gas station. Then, just hours later, when the

1485
01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:32.119
very same girl that was found murdered, the one that

1486
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:34.359
you thought enough to cheat on your wife with, the

1487
01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:36.479
one that you thought enough to have sex with, the

1488
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:38.279
one that you thought enough to give your number to

1489
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:42.720
that girl. But you just didn't think enough to give

1490
01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:44.800
a call to the police and say, oh my god,

1491
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:45.800
I was with her.

1492
01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.000
She was fine. I saw her at this time. This

1493
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:52.800
is what we did. You didn't think to make that call.

1494
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:54.159
You just let that ride.

1495
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:57.359
That was just just another day, not your problem. And

1496
01:18:57.439 --> 01:18:59.239
that's when he says, oh, well, I was dating a

1497
01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:01.279
lot of a lot of women. I hooked up with

1498
01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:03.279
a lot of women, and I'm thinking, why you had

1499
01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:07.159
a wife. Okay, well that's a character flaw in and

1500
01:19:07.239 --> 01:19:08.760
of itself. Don't you think that you're gonna be up

1501
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:10.279
here spouting that you're a minister but you're just like,

1502
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:11.880
oh yeah, but I cheat on my wife all the time.

1503
01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:12.800
Y'all.

1504
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:15.159
If you believe what this man was saying, then I

1505
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:17.680
have got some ocean front property for sale in Kansas

1506
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:19.279
and I will sell it to you today.

1507
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:21.239
It's absolutely fricking ridiculous.

1508
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:23.560
And some other information that I would like to add

1509
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:27.359
to this, I uh didn't plan on telling you, but

1510
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:31.520
I'm ad it in here because Coley also on the stand.

1511
01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:35.000
Minister Coley, he maintained the fact that he had no

1512
01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:37.880
criminal record and he was never violent, and that was

1513
01:19:37.960 --> 01:19:40.119
all over the news. You know, this guy couldn't have

1514
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:42.319
done it. I don't know how a seaman ended up

1515
01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:43.920
on a young girl, but he couldn't have done it

1516
01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.680
because he's a minister and he's never been violent. Well,

1517
01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:49.840
an ounce of research, just an ounce of it, would

1518
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.600
help you call total bullshit on what you're being fed

1519
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:58.000
because it's not quite true. Because Coley McCraney was married

1520
01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:02.439
to someone else before he was married to Jeannette, and

1521
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:07.720
that woman in two thousand and four, arrived at Keisler

1522
01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:10.439
Air Force Base at three point thirty seven in the

1523
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.840
morn in the morning saying that her husband had assaulted

1524
01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:16.800
her and when they were investigating this, there was a

1525
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:20.000
big bruise on her left cheek and she also had

1526
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:22.600
a bald spot on the back of her head where

1527
01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:25.520
her hair had been forcibly ripped out from her scalp.

1528
01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:28.159
She said that she was hitting the head with a

1529
01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:31.279
nine millimeter magazine and then he locked her in a

1530
01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:33.439
room with her baby, and the only way that she

1531
01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:35.960
was able to get out is that whenever Coley opened

1532
01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:39.520
the door, she managed to push past him and run out.

1533
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:43.000
She just ran for her life. So the military police

1534
01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:46.079
went and they detained Coley. He also had a friend

1535
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:48.199
with him at the time. And guess what they found

1536
01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:53.159
on him ammunition along with a broken magazine. You know what.

1537
01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:55.319
The wife just claimed she was smoked in the face with.

1538
01:20:56.239 --> 01:21:01.680
And Coley was charged with aggravated assault, assault consummated by

1539
01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:06.800
battery on a child under sixteen, unlawful detention, and possession

1540
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:09.680
of a concealed weapon. They did charge his friend, but

1541
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:11.760
his friend was only charged with trespassing because his friend

1542
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:15.079
was a civilian while Coley was military. And do you

1543
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:19.479
remember this little little tidbit of information. Both girls had

1544
01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:22.680
been murdered by a high point nine millimeter pistol. You

1545
01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:25.039
remember that that's what was believed to be the murder weapon.

1546
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.039
Well part of this investigation I'm telling you about. Now,

1547
01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:31.840
guess what they recovered a weapon from Coley.

1548
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:32.760
Guess what it was?

1549
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:37.960
A nine millimeter pistol high point. I rest my case.

1550
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:40.560
What are the chances y'all be so for real?

1551
01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:40.920
Right now?

1552
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:43.960
Be so for real? And the jury agreed with me too.

1553
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:47.800
Nine white and three black jurors all agreed that Coley

1554
01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:53.079
McCraney kidnapped, raped, and murdered the two girls, JB and Tracy,

1555
01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:55.600
and he now faced the death penalty in a state

1556
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:59.479
with the highest death penalty rate in capital cases, and

1557
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:04.199
that phase, once he was convicted, would happen.

1558
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:05.560
At a later date. But I want y'all to know too.

1559
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:08.920
It only took thirteen minutes for them to sentence him

1560
01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:14.119
to life in prison. So consider considering all of the

1561
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:19.319
grace that Colely got. You know, minister Colely, it was

1562
01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:21.520
a lot more than he ever extended to those two

1563
01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:26.079
young girls that were headed home to their mamas. You

1564
01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:28.680
had a daughter the exact same age as the girls

1565
01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:31.880
you raped and killed, and you just went through life

1566
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:33.319
as if it never happened.

1567
01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:36.399
But that was the old you, wasn't it. That was

1568
01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:36.960
the old you.

1569
01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:39.199
You didn't want to bring that up because you've changed.

1570
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:41.840
And that's the thing about people, y'all. They do change.

1571
01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:44.319
But even when change is for the better, it does

1572
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:48.079
not erase what happened in the past. It's still there.

1573
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:52.039
Your reputation, that's how people see you, but your character,

1574
01:22:53.239 --> 01:22:56.279
that's who you really are. And from where I'm sitting.

1575
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.960
A fresh coat of holiness doesn't cover semen and bloodstain.

1576
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:04.520
It's incredible to me to know that a man can

1577
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:08.640
spend his youth lying, cheating, and murdering, But as soon

1578
01:23:08.720 --> 01:23:10.760
as you add a Bible in a robe, people are

1579
01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:15.680
willing to just overlook facts, cold hard facts. Well, I

1580
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.319
don't work that way. I don't care how good of

1581
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:21.000
a friend you've been to me. When the evidence proves

1582
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:25.640
that you raped and murdered teenage girls, our friendship is done.

1583
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:28.359
And it's not because I'm fake. It's because I'm human

1584
01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:32.680
and you are a snake. And snakes don't repent. They

1585
01:23:32.800 --> 01:23:35.800
just shed their skin to grow bigger, slicker, and harder

1586
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:36.239
to catch.