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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime
podcast. Or I tell stories of real

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crimes with real victims whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how

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is this even real? I use
my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and

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combined with my years as a criminal
justice educator, dig deep into complex cases

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of evil acts, some so evil
many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences.
If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is
advised. Hey, y'all, kJ,

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here back for another episode of Unspeakable. What is going Oh? I have

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a very very special guest in the
house, and I know a lot of

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you are not going to know who
he is, but I feel like it's

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my time to really let him shine. Would you like to introduce yourself?

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Sir? Sure, I'm Jim Chapman. I'm Jimothy. It's Timothy, y'all.

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All the way from the other room. All the way from the other

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room. I made time in my
busy schedule to just meet with me,

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that's right, and speak to you
people. What's going on? Jim?

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Well, you know, kJ,
you're keeping me busy and all the other

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stuff I got going on, but
we thought that it'd be a good idea

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to get on here today and just
kind of inform everybody who may be living

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under a rock that your Unspeakable Live
too is coming up shortly. I cannot

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even believe it. I'm serious.
I'm so genuinely saying that, like what,

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people want to hear me tell stories? Who knews? Yeah they want

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to luck that Saturday show sold out
in an hour and twenty minutes, so

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it's all love for you. kJ. Look, I'm thrilled. I just

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want to talk about victims of true
crime. And I'm so excited that there's

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a facet of people in this world
who agree, you know, and want

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to hear the stories and know what
people went through, because it's what matters.

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It is it's not about the bad
guy or about the offender, right,

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That's right. And you've always done
a good job of putting, you

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know, focusing on the victims.
And yes, you do have to tell

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the story to do that, and
you know, so many horrific things that

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we talk about, but I do
like how you provide that focus on the

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victims and the survivors and in some
cases of these horrible crimes, and there's

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there's something to it. I don't
know that if people understand it, but

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there's a lot that goes into me
sitting there and I'm writing these stories and

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I'm researching you know, these victims, and it is not lost on me

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that these people have family you know, that alive or or that you know,

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had to also experience alongside the victim
a tragedy and they're you know,

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it's hard because I'm like, at
one point, at what point are you

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overstepping and putting people's not their privacy, but there their emotions I guess on

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display or what they went through on
display, because it's to me, it's

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not for entertainment value, it's for
reality check. Yeah, yeah, and

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you do you have to keep that
in mind. And of course, uh,

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you know, we've covered on blooding
and Gola many times cases that people

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who are family of victims have reached
out and and sometimes it's not always positive

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because they don't and I understand those
bad memories are being brought back up.

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So you try to do it and
as as good a taste as possible,

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and uh, and still tell the
story because those stories need to be told.

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And it's from a place of life, and I hope, I hope

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everyone can understand my heart. And
I know not everybody's gonna want to,

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but my heart is so in tune
with the fact like Denny Sandberlely, right,

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I just did that episode recently,
and the fact that you know,

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I'm friends with Nathan, her husband
online, and even small things like do

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I say her his former wife or
do I say his wife because he is

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remarried now, and those things weigh
on me. I don't ever want to

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be disrespectful to anyone in that fashion. And her kids, right, they're

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teenagers now and I teach kids their
same age, and it's like, I'm

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proud for her, and I'm proud
for her husband of what their kids have

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accomplished, and look how far they've
come in life. It's like, where

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do you because they don't know me, and who am I to take that,

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you know, as if I know
them because I don't know them personally.

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I've never gone out to dinner with
them before. But man, I

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hope they know how much respect I
have for them. Yeah, such a

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tragedy. The listeners of your shat
and those are the people that are,

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uh, you know, you're really
telling this story too. And a lot

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of times those lesteners, they you
know, they'll they'll fill a kinship sometimes

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with these with these victims and the
survivors and the story itself. Maybe they

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have a similar story, yeah,
you know. And the people, Hey,

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if you're listening and you have written
me and said, you know,

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oh my gosh, thank you for
speaking up or for saying this. Because

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I've had so many people write me, and obviously I'm not going to call

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their names out, but to say
that they've gone through similar experiences and that

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they don't necessarily have the ability to
speak up about it, but they love

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the fact that somebody else will be
able to tell it. You know,

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man, we all need somebody in
our life, right And I'm not saying

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it's me, but we all need
somebody who can put stuff into words that

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maybe we're not able to in certain
platforms, you know, or in certain

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ways. And so I'm very proud
when I get those messages. They mean

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a lot to me because I'm coming
from such a genuine place, you know,

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in my heart, kind of like
the live that's coming up, right,

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We've got victims that I'm going to
be telling their stories, and are

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we on the topic. We've already
released the topic, right, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, So so Derek
Todd Lee. And if you're not from

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this area, I want y'all to
know, if you are not from this

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area, Derek Todd Lee is the
biggest in recent history or notorious serial killers,

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notorious serial killers from our area.
He was he was killing people while

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I was in college. This case
was very important to me, right as

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a young girl in a college campus, and what he was doing and we

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didn't know who he was, you
know, and you know, there's victims

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out there, there's family of victims
out there, and I'm gonna do my

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damnedest to tell what they went through. And it should hit people the wrong

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way in that we can never just
accept this as the way it is.

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You know, that someone could do
that to other people. That can never

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be the status quo that owe it
happens. No, no, sir,

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no, ma'am. Right in that
particular story. You know, the interesting

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thing about Derek Todd Lee's case in
particulars that had so many moving parts to

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it, there were you know,
without giving away too much, there were

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situations in that particular case where you
know, they were chasing after the wrong

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person. I mean a ghost that
did not exist. And there were even

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people during that time that knew it
was Derek Todd Lee, at least in

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their heart. They knew it was
Derek Todd Lee. They had no proof

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at that time. But uh there
there's a story there too, because those

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people have a story of trying to
get that particular individual looked at. And

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it was a struggle with a fun
and this affected women specifically. This scared

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every daddy in our area. This
scared every mama, every sister, every

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woman my age. I mean,
my mama didn't want me going to class.

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It y'all, we in the South, we still say mama, it

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don't matter if I'm eighty. I'm
saying mama and daddy. But mama didn't

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want me going to classes. And
someone at you and say, oh,

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we say mom and the nore Well, I know, but like it ain't

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mine. Remember, it ain't my
you know what I mean? Like we're

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like Mama and Diddy and it's like
d I d d Why Diddy? Yeah,

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Okay, I admit everyone says mama
and daddy. I'm just saying mama,

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that's my mama. But yeah,
she didn't want me going to classes

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at night, you know, and
they had that billboard up. I will

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never forget that. And I was
going around the LSU Lakes to go park

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in class, and they had that
billboard up that said, honey, the

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serial killer is still out there.
Be safe love mom. And I do

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not know what group of individuals purchase
that billboard, but this girl saw it.

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I still get good. I still
get goosebumps thinking about it because someone

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cared enough to try to warn the
young girls out there to be careful situational

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awareness. Look where you're going,
Look what you're doing. Yeah, you

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know he and little do they know
they have three out there at that same

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time. So what the hell kind
of society are we living in when we

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got not one, not two,
but three? Hey, real quick,

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do we know how many seats we
have left? Are they? Are?

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We very limited for the second show? There's there's a few left. What

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I would do is encourage anyone do
not wait. This is definitely the second

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night is definitely going to be a
sellout. Okay there I don't want to

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release an exact number right now,
but let's just say there's very few.

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Okay, but if you want tickets
stop what you're doing and go to the

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Southeastern Livingston. We have the link
in uh you know it's it's on the

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Facebook page. You can just scroll
down you'll come across it and Patreon I

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posted it. If you're a Patreon
listener, Yeah, hit that link and

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get as many tickets as your heart
desires because they will sell out. And

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we want to talk real quick.
I think kJ about some of the special

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things we're going to be doing at
that event. Yeah, we're going to

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have some special guests there on both
nights. So I'm not going to tell

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you who. I gotta say this
though, it's going to knock your socks

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off. Yeah, I'm telling y'all
right now, I'm so stoked about it.

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Yeah. So, uh, these
are these are people you would not

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expect, but they're going to be
in attendance. And of course you know

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we're all about we're a big family
here in the unspeakable world, and uh

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so we want to mingle and and
say hello, kJ is. Uh if

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you didn't go to her first live
let me just tell them how it works.

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Okay, So basically you're going to
get to the live uh event.

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The door's open at six. You're
going to have a like a you know,

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we find the best food trucks available. Everybody loves food truck. Food.

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You got to have food if you're
gonna have a show, come on,

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that's right. So we're gonna have
a big food truck out front with

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some of the best food you can
ever eat. Uh. And also we're

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gonna have the cutest drink truck you've
ever seen next to it. It's called

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Whiskey on Wheels, and they're gonna
have some special drinks that are gonna be

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titled Uniquely for Unspeakable, a true
true crime podcast by Kelly Jennings. You

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can get your drink, you can
get your eat on. Uh. They'll

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have seating on the inside. A
lot of people asked about that last last

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time we did one. They're they're
seating on the inside where you can sit

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down eat your food. Uh.
There's gonna be a swag booth set up

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with some of the best merch ever
from Unspeakable. There some unique stuff that

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you know. One thing about Kelly
is she has a lot of unique merchandise

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that you know, it's more than
just T shirts, and it's cool stuff

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that y'all are gonna love. Uh. And then at seven o'clock. The

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show starts now inside the Uh,
inside the I don't know if I call

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it arena. The theater is theater
seating and and so there's no bad seat

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in the whole in the whole thing. It's stacked seating like if you were

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going to a concert or something,
and these are comfortable seats. They even

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have a little tables on them so
that you can eat, you know,

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your food or whatever you're doing.
Uh. kJ will hit the stage at

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seven o'clock. I'll probably come out, well, I will definitely come out

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a couple of minutes before. Yeah, give you know, kind of do

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an intro, maybe tell a funny
story about Kelly and uh, then Kelly's

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gonna hit the hit the stage,
give you the best live podcast performance you've

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ever seen. Uh And then here's
the deal. This, This one's gonna

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be a little longer in length than
our podcast, our live podcast was last

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time kJ did it. So we're
gonna do an intermission in between. I'm

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gonna tell you all a funny story
real quick as to why. And you

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know, you learn things every time
you do these. This is probably the

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fourth or fifth life event that I've
been involved in. But the last time

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I did one with kJ, after
she was done, I was getting up

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to say a few words before everybody
dispersed, but I think everybody had a

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piece so bad because nobody leaves during
the live show to go pee because you

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don't want to miss anything, right, So I got up there to say

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something and it was like me and
one other person was still sitting there and

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everybody else hit the bathrooms. So, uh, we learned from that.

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So what we're going to do this
time is about an hour in. We're

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gonna do maybe a ten to twelve
minute intermission where you can go to the

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restroom, stretch your legs if you
want to, if you know that sort

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of thing, answer a text if
someone's been hitting, you know, blown

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up your phone, and then Kj's
gonna come back in and be about another

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hour, hour and ten minutes and
that'll be a rap on the show.

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You're definitely gonna get your money's worth, I can tell you, because this

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is a this is a big show. Hey, Jim explained this for me

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too, because maybe I don't understand
either, But I've had a bunch of

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people message me too, saying,
hey, we're out of state. Obviously

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we won't be able to come in
for whatever reasons. Can y'all do a

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live stream that we could log into? Can you explain that I actually saw

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that and here's here's the look.
That is a great idea, and I

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can tell you this, the next
time we do one, we will probably

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have that capability. What the issue
with doing a live stream, more than

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anything else, is sound. We
just don't have a way to control that

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sound that I'm comfortable with charging people
for a you know, if they can't

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hear it, it's it's opening up
a can of worms. Say we're gonna

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we're gonna work on that, and
I can promise you this. I think

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that's a great idea, And next
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have streaming capability because I think that's
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the technology. Yeah, and I
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too. Yeah, you absolutely,
I love that idea. Yeah. When

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you give us these ideas, I
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got it in my little book of
things. And acoustics are weird. I've

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learned that right, and you have
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to be right everything, and sometimes
everything's right, and it Look, I'll

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give you another quick example. And
a guy that's been on your show many

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times, what are you ever doing? So what? He has a very

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unique voice. You know if you've
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Crime or Bloody and Gola, he
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talks, and it's amazing. You
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However, from a producer's perspective,
when wood he is remote, So when

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we're recording uh audio off site and
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a specific instance where this happened,
y'all, y'all enjoy this. So we

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do a show Real Life for a
Crime Daily and what he is hunting and

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he's in Wisconsin, and so me
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did them springs? And we are
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version of Zoom, but way better, way higher capability. The audio is

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easier to control. So we dial
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whole podcast and it sounded great when
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to the editing process wood. He
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yeah, it's like, you know, when he talks through his cell phone,

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he's kind of hard to understand because
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the acoustics that are built into your
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play with that audio a lot.
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know, it's hard to understand what
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do about it outside of that because
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to approach that without really doing some
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enough time for me to feel comfortable
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I promise you, I absolutely promise
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we will have that capability because the
Sinneys we wrap this up, I'm going

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to get on what I need to
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to make that happen. I think
that's a phenomenal one. Now I want

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to do a call to action to
y'all. So everyone's like, why don't

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you travel, you know, why
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come there? Why don't you know? That's kind of a different animal,

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right when you're going out of state, away from where you would normally record.

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I wouldn't be above that. We
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y'all want me to come, y'all
y'all need to post? I might make

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a post and y'all go answer me
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and I speak for kJ when I
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obviously a full time teacher in addition
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if kJ did this full time,
we'd be traveling all over the country.

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You ain't never tearing this country down
with some truth? Yes, kids,

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you know so it's it's h she
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so, but yeah, we'd love
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throughout the country, maybe what areas
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or uh Houston or name it Michigan. You know, I've never been to

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Michigan, really never. I've never
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Michigan. I don't think I've ever
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I think the highest I've ever been
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know. Yeah, even know,
I'm not good at mapping. I have

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to look at Yeah, I did
go to New York. Well there's somewhere

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I've never been that you've been.
Really you didn't you've ever been to New

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York? What? Yeh man,
I've been to Alaska? Did you go?

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Hello? My words got stuck.
Did you go fishing in Alaska?

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No? I want some salmon?
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it y'all out there in the audience, k kell me know this right off

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the top, But where you you
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it's a bar you're holding on to
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yeah, zipline, thank you.
I did that, Alasta, we did

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that. Yeah, I'd be afraid
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It was pretty crazy. And Wendy
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you have these stations, so you
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you zip line to another one.
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between two stations. Yeah you do. She had to shimmy herself until the

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wheels started moving again, where she
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y'all, is like five ft tall. She's a little bit popcorn part

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and yeah, she shouldn't have enough
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don't know what it was. Look, if my ass was put on a

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scale, it from my neck,
from the back of my head to the

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bottom of my ass, I'd be
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there ain't no ash back there in
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thing. It might be teacher's got
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maybe so, I don't know.
I'll check us all out next week.

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We'll let you know. So.
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the event, the cool thing is
kJ is gonna take five minutes. She's

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gonna go get her a drink of
water and decompriss for because look, y'all,

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when you're doing something like that,
you're very keyed up. And so

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she'll go back to the back,
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that five minutes. And everybody that
wants to you can to. There's going

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to be a separate line when you
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and she's gonna sign whatever you want
her to sign. She'll take as many

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pictures as you want to take.
UH and UH and meet and greet everybody.

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They's taking their time and you know
they spent their hard earned money to

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come here. You do a podcast? Ye, I like meeting people too,

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because some of y'all, some of
y'all I talk to online and then

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I get to meet you and see
your face. That's right. I never

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have one from Uh. I forget
the Missouri. Yeah, what shout out?

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Missouri? Way? You how far? That is a long ways.

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I've never been to Missouri. Y'all
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not been anywhere. Yeah, I've
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Missouri? Missourians? Is it?
I don't know, but I know when

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we were trying to figure out Organs, three people in Massagingians, but they

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changed. I got different answers.
What is it? I wonder if it's

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where you're from in Oregon, it
could be there was Orgonians. I thought

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it was Orgonians, but I don't
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oniane. Yeah, that is definitely
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had I don't know, it's funny. I just have people message me all

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the time. I guess I say
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well you know southern PEAPs from Louisiana
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tell you, well, we just
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that's okay. But so you'll definitely
go and and she's going to sign anything

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you want to sign and meet you. She'd love to meet you. And

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it's gonna be a heck of a
night. But there are very few tickets

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left for that Friday night. Yeah, please don't wait, because then once

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they're sold out, I can't I
can't make more. Yeah, yeah,

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we're not gonna do it. Definitely
not going to do a third show.

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We weren't even sure whether we're gonna
have some availability for the second show.

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Fortunately we did, because that first
show just sold out so quick, and

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there's so much love from your fans
for what you're doing to really blow those

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tickets out that fast. Yeah,
and I'm glad. I'm thankful. I'm

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beyond thankful that y'all that y'all are
enjoying it. So another thing that we

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want to make everybody aware of is
is on Unspeakable, we've been kind of

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you know, Kelly's been just very
successful in a very short amount of time.

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look at from a production standpoint is

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what can we do to number one, keep up that minimum. Number two

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feature kJ and the in the best
light as possible, and and give you

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and number three. But probably the
top thing that is in our mind is

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give you the fans what you want. And it seems like everybody just wants

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more kJ, right, So that's
why we do lives and things like that

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is to really get you know,
give the fans and give kJ an opportunity

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to meet and mingle a little bit
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we're also looking at some more serieses
that we're going to series as the word

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series series series is like the player, more series, multiple multiple serieses.

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We're gonna do another series. We're
gonna do some more things, and uh,

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one of those things is we're going
to tie some series that are their

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own into Unspeakable. So we've been
looking at at a multiple episode on on

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one particular subject. And I think
the first one that we're gonna do as

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a really good test run for this
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because obviously in a couple of hours
you absolutely cannot touch all the the

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right because I mean, the live
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like, uh, we're going to
go down a certain angle so that

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you get that taste of that angle. But I'm telling y'all, if you

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are not from even if you're from
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that you have no clue. Like, for instance, I'm actually related to

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one person who was involved in the
case, and I didn't even know that

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that that was even part of it
until it became an adult, like you

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know, later years. So this
world is very small, I'll tell you

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that, and we are more intertwined
than you would ever believe. So I'm

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excited about the series because I get
to take you down every single avenue and

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honey, it's a big world.
There's a lot of avenues, yeah,

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lots of stuff. I mean,
sometimes the things that didn't pan out are

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just as interesting as the things that
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how the hell do we get there? Where did that come from? And

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it's like it's like some things just
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And it wasn't even it wasn't even
real. Like it's like like we say

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the good Chase and the ghost you
know on that, and real quick,

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I'm having a I do this because
I'm add. Let me tell you who

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was a big fan of true crime, Miss Kim Mulki, the women's basketball

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LSU coach. Y'all, I went, I want to tell y'all this.

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I went to a bookstore and she
was doing a book signing and I was

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so excited because I wanted to meet
her, right because I just think she's

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bad ass, y'all know, I
think she's my spirit animal. Right.

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buy a book to get it signed,

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So that's okay. It cost me
like sixty five dollars to get in line.

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That's okay. I got my book, and girl, I was ready.

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I waited in that line. I
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And then I get up in line
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know, ten fifteen seconds per person. So I get my extra ass up

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there and I made her a T
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you follow me on social media,
you saw that those T shirts, by

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the way, are going live this
week on my merch websites. Y'all can

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go buy y'all some if y'all go
to the LSU games. But I get

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up there and I just said,
hey, I made you a shirt,

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and two of the players looked at
me, like, who is this crazy

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woman? But she liked my shirt. And not only did she like my

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sh shirt, y'all, she liked
me. She liked me. She really

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liked me. And we were talking
and she was telling me how much she

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loved true crime so much so that
after like we took her a little picture

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together. When I walked off,
she called me back over. She wanted

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to talk to me some more about
true crime. There you go, stop

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it. So what I'm trying to
tell the world is me and Kim Welke,

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your best friends. Okay, tell
the masses, Tell the masses,

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Kim Moulkey, y'all, I was
fan girling. You do not even know

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I was fangirling. I'm still smiling. How many that's been? What two

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weeks ago? Yeah, she's a
she's a tedtle rock star Man. What

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a badass. She's so freaking cool. Get it girl. When she gets

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mad, she slaps that floor.
Yeah, Cramer, get out there and

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handle your mama. Boy. That's
her son. If you don't know,

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well maybe we can get Kim Milk
to get one of the Come on,

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Kim. If anybody out there knows
Miss Kim Moulke, tell her we got

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it. I'll save her a seat. We got a seat for I will

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cry. I will cry. Kim
Molkey come break out. Probably wouldn't be

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able to talk here. I would
melt very good. So, uh,

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that's enough about the you know,
the live We told you everything we can

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tell you on that. We look
forward to meeting everybody, singing everybody at

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that event. Uh. We just
told you about some new things we're looking

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to do with some series, another
one that we're looking into doing. And

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and me from a production standpoint,
uh, it kind of excites me.

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It's kind of nerdy and all that, but you know, the behind the

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scenes stuff I really love to play
with. That's kind of my deal.

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And so I was looking into us
doing a series called thirteen Transgressions and don't

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00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.279
try to steal that if you're another
copyright. Yeah, we've already copilated.

406
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:55.759
You cannot have it back off.
And what this series that's right, and

407
00:28:55.799 --> 00:29:00.359
what this series is going to be, y'all is it'll it'll feature one particular

408
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:07.680
crime and there's thirteen you know,
primary crime transgressions that you can commit.

409
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.160
It will be one story from each
of these. But what we're gonna do

410
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.000
that's very interesting in this series is
we're gonna have that uh, that background

411
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:21.559
music that is so popular now with
all these podcasts. Uh it's almost like

412
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.720
you're watching a movie. Yeah,
so it'll be it'll have that, you

413
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:30.599
know, that that music behind it
and kJ doing what kJ does and creep,

414
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.359
yeah, walking through the waters past
right, And I you know,

415
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:38.599
y'all, I have to keep in
mind kJ is uh is as we told

416
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.359
you. You know, she's a
full time teacher and also a mother and

417
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:48.480
a wife and all these responsibilities outside
of what we do. And and uh

418
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.160
so me from a production standpoint,
I always have to keep that in mind

419
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.880
because I would work her to absolute
death if I could get away with it.

420
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.039
Yeah, when I'm done teaching,
it's on. You don't no,

421
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.799
I'm not kidding y'all. All I
do is live and breathe through crime.

422
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.480
It is on. It is just
like we're just like we're in that potential

423
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:10.119
energy phase right now where Mama's building
Mama's building. And as soon as I

424
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:11.960
can retire from teaching, which is
going to be sooner than later, I'm

425
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.720
coming out the fricking box. Yeah, we're visiting everywhere. Then, I'm

426
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.079
telling you we really take it to
the next level. But so many things.

427
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:23.000
And we do all that, y'all
because we want to give you everything

428
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:27.640
you want. So if you have
a suggestion or ideas, we'll certainly entertain

429
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:33.200
those, and you know, in
due time, I'm sure get to them.

430
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.559
And people message me and please don't
stop, Okay, And even if

431
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.799
I short answer you like, oh
my gosh, yes I really like that

432
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.240
idea, I'll look into it or
I'll add it to my list. Please

433
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.599
know I'm genuinely doing that. My
list is just massive. And you know,

434
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:51.160
I'm one person and writing an episode
and it's very interesting. Before podcast

435
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:52.359
did I didn't know this. I
thought people just got up on the mic

436
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.640
and kind of spit it. But
I'm telling y'all have five hours invested in

437
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.200
every hour that I podcast, and
that's legitimate. Yeah, Manimal, it's

438
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.200
crazy, but it's true. And
then and then on the back side of

439
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.400
that, from a production standpoint,
there's even more time involved. So it

440
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.319
is it's look and not to cut
you off from that, but interesting you

441
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.000
went down that road. I had
someone ask me, so I was producing

442
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.920
someone. You know, I produced
several different podcasts. One of these that

443
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:25.839
I was producing is kind of on
their own hiatus right now, and I

444
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.559
had someone ask me about that.
I posted something on Facebook and they said,

445
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:30.559
hey, what happened to you?
And I'm not going to say a

446
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:37.839
name here, but what happened to
so and so? And the deal was

447
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:44.200
this person has a lot going on
outside of podcasting because they're not a full

448
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.359
time podcaster, and they had some
business that they had to attend to that

449
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.799
was much more important to them.
But I caveated that when I answered this

450
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:59.720
question with One thing I find as
a producer is most And when I say

451
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.839
most, I mean the vast majority, probably ninety plus percent of people who

452
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:08.039
ever try to podcast or attempt to
podcast or podcast for that matter, do

453
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:14.640
not realize the commitment. Ith God, it is a huge time committment.

454
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.640
So you've really got to love it. Nobody's complaining about that. But you

455
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:22.640
have absolutely got a love podcasting to
podcast and I do as yeah she do.

456
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:28.839
And look for everything kJ has going
on, she never complained. Well,

457
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.200
she might complain everything every now and
then. Listen, I'm tired.

458
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:37.359
Women are not supposed to fart or
cuss or burp. Therefore we bitch so

459
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:42.599
we don't blow up. Yeah,
love it so so there is there's a

460
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.240
lot of commitment there. Uh,
and there's a lot of time involved,

461
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:52.039
and Kelly does an amazing job of
juggling all that. But you have to

462
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.200
love and she does. You have
to love it like that in order to

463
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.400
see it through. So there's probably
some of you out there that maybe you're

464
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.880
considering podcasting or you know, I'd
like to sit and talk about this or

465
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:10.200
that, and I encourage anyone to
try it, just be aware that in

466
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.720
order to see success with it.
When I say success, I mean you

467
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:19.200
actually are making money and not spending
it doing it. In order to see

468
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:24.440
that, be ready to commit time
to it and all those sorts of things.

469
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.839
It's just it's its own animal.
So if you send me a message

470
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.079
about a case, my point is
that it won't be a turnover the following

471
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.359
week. So I don't want you
to think that I've just blown you off.

472
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.720
I promise I haven't. I have
to put it on my list and

473
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.079
then I got to do all my
research and all that too, So y'all,

474
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.359
don't quit message in me. I
love that. I love interacting with

475
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.440
you and hearing what you want to
hear, because I want to. I

476
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.240
want to give you cases that you're
interested in. Absolutely. Yeah, some

477
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:51.880
of the best cases you'll ever cover
will be ones that you never knew existed

478
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:54.240
until someone suggested it, right,
and then it's like, wow, how

479
00:33:54.279 --> 00:34:00.720
did I miss this case? And
we just did one last week, Kelly,

480
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.440
the one that you dropped, Uh, the name is slipping my mind

481
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.519
right now, the female victim,
Yeah, the one we just dropped.

482
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:13.800
That was the Larry Sharp case.
No prior to that, Denise Amberly,

483
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:22.079
So biggest case, biggest download number
Kelly's ever had was from that. It

484
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.599
was, but but it was a
case that obviously people wanted to hear and

485
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.239
and you nailed it and huge but
very popular in it. So if you

486
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:35.000
haven't listened to go back and listened
to that Denise Amberley case, it's fire.

487
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:40.920
But let me ask you something from
a from a guy who interviews people

488
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:49.400
on another podcast, what are you
most surprised about with with unspeakable? I

489
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:51.599
mean, I know we all say, you know, I'm surprised people want

490
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.400
to hear it and and uh,
but what is it that you are are

491
00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:05.559
most surprised about? You know,
I don't know surprised is the word,

492
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.039
but like humbled, maybe is that
you know, I'm very passionate about the

493
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.880
stories when I tell them, I
don't just tell them for entertainment. I

494
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.199
am passionate about what is going on
in our society and what is going wrong.

495
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:21.920
And I want to educate people.
I want them to learn because there's

496
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.079
certain things that, you know,
if we make ourselves you know, hard

497
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:28.119
targets, life will get, you
know, hopefully better for all of us.

498
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.480
And we don't have, you know, people chasing us down and knocking

499
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:35.719
down our doors. I guess what
I'm most humbled by, slash surprised is

500
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:45.719
that people are willing to listen to
storytelling, but they they demand, even

501
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.360
if they don't say it, that
they trust you, right, And I

502
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.599
think a lot of people trust me
that I'm doing the best research that I

503
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.039
can and I'm not going to say
I get it all perfect. You know,

504
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.079
I wasn't there. Yeah, I
wasn't there. I wouldn't the when

505
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:04.000
it happened, or else i'd be
in prison. But I'm very surprised and

506
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.000
humbled by the support that I received
from people who trust in me and believe

507
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.880
in me. And that's why I
continue, I think, to work so

508
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:14.320
hard to give you the nitty gritty, give you the details, give you

509
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.679
the ins and outs of these stories, because if not, they're just a

510
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.159
headline. And people cannot just be
a headline. You know, someone's dead,

511
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:28.760
someone's raped, someone's you know,
injured for the rest of their life.

512
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.360
It's not a headline. It's a
full story with a complete victim.

513
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:40.519
And I'm just thankful too that we
have people out there in society that maybe

514
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.880
we're the silent majority, you know, majority of people don't want to speak

515
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.320
up and say those things. But
damn it, enough's enough. Yeah that's

516
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:57.679
right, and luck the power of
that really nothing supersedes it. And what

517
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.280
I mean by that is most of
the cases you cover are solved and they're

518
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:06.440
adjudicated and they're closed. Uh,
but there's some that aren't. You did

519
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:10.679
the stony Eli goody. Yeah,
Eli goody. That is ridiculous that still

520
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.880
or girl is it's still not soft
and that son of a bitch is sitting

521
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:19.360
in jail today. And why the
I'm sorry to get a little passionate here,

522
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.239
No I'm not, I'm not.
But why is the pressure not being

523
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.559
put on him? Yeah, it's
come on, great question and and and

524
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:32.440
uh, you know, sometimes there's
just not enough evidence that I'm not saying

525
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:37.760
that's this case. But but you
know, sometimes in cases you can know

526
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.679
exactly who did it, what they
used, and but knowing and proving it

527
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.639
or two different things. You have
to be able to prove it. And

528
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:50.480
the power podcasting sometimes can lead to
that. What he has, you know,

529
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:55.760
solved. He solved several call cases, but of course the the one

530
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:01.280
in particular that I'm referencing here,
courting Oko's case, that case was solved

531
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:06.079
off of a tip. Ye.
People, people don't realize that it was

532
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:13.280
a podcast tip. It was.
It was someone who contacted him and said

533
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:19.079
they would wear a wire and talk
to him and then let Woody listen to

534
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:23.199
it. That that guy is now
sitting in Gola for the rest of his

535
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:28.639
life as he should be. And
that's right. But had that podcast not

536
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.599
existed and that person not hurt it, and that person not reached out to

537
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:36.679
Woody, it never would have been
solved. So that is the power of

538
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.239
what you do well and something like
that. Ella Goody. I haven't forgotten

539
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.159
it just because I told the story. I haven't moved on from it.

540
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.880
The girl's still missing, and I
know that she's probably laying in a marsh

541
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.800
somewhere. No lie, I think
that she's or in another state. She's

542
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.559
dumped somewhere, and I know that
sounds horrible, and I know her family

543
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.880
would hope to find her alive.
But I just know from from I guess

544
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.800
statistics and experience, I don't believe
that she's alive. But that makes her

545
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:02.639
note that does not make her any
less important. And what's gonna, unfortunately,

546
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:07.400
probably have to happen is somebody who
knows what Somebody else knows what happened

547
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:12.599
to that girl. Somebody else knows
because something has transpired. There's a reason

548
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.119
he needed her vehicle, there's a
reason that she could not speak anymore,

549
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.239
that she needed to be silenced.
So apparently something else is going to have

550
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.039
to happen where someone else gets their
ass in a bind and then we can

551
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.719
use them to be able to get
the truth about Ella Ellie, but Ella

552
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:30.559
Goody, but her kids deserve to
know. And he's sitting in jail and

553
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:36.639
mother and everybody. But there's two
little girls out there and their mama just

554
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:42.039
disappeared. And the guy who we
know, come on, he's responsible for

555
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.280
this. He already had a prior
charge close to it, is sitting in

556
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.519
jail on the taxpayer's dollar. The
taxpayers deserve some answer, son, like,

557
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.000
you're a coward. You're a coward
that you would do this and then

558
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.800
you won't even own up to it. That's not a badass, thug,

559
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:07.440
a coward. And that's the power
of what we do as you reach a

560
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:12.280
major audience and look, y'all,
that's why it's so important. A lot

561
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.320
of times you'll hear Kelly say,
or you'll hear me say, or whoever,

562
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.480
and they'll say, share, share, you know, like and share

563
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.639
this whether it's an adjudicated case or
not. And the reason for that is,

564
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:28.679
Uh, the more people that are
aware the podcast exists. When you

565
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:34.119
do cover a case where maybe that
justice hasn't been served yet, it may

566
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.000
lead to that right and y'all.
It can be small things, and I

567
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:38.760
think that the general public doesn't know
that we're getting better at it right because

568
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:44.840
of true crime television. But small
things sometimes are the missing piece that you

569
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.480
have to think what he says it
all the time, that a lot of

570
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:51.360
people will think, I'm not going
to say this because don't matter. I

571
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.079
mean, that's so odd, you
know, or or that's such a little

572
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:59.440
thing. I don't think it would
contain any relevance. That little thing could

573
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.440
be the difference. We're dealing with
the case right now, y'all. Hear

574
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:07.920
in Livingston Parish where we record out
of Miss Barbara Blunt and the you know,

575
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:13.760
uh. Without going into necessary details
on the case, this case has

576
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.800
been unsolved for a long time,
and everybody in this parish that we live

577
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.519
in, and y'all, it's a
big parish, but it's a lot of

578
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.719
people that know one another and everyone
in this parish, myself included. Once

579
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:30.440
it finished, yeah, it needs
to be finished. But knowing and proving

580
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:37.159
are two different things. Yeah,
and Barbara deserves better, Yeah, she

581
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:42.719
deserves better. Where someone's just got
to say something, Yeah, somebody always

582
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.519
knows. Somebody knows something, even
if they don't realize. It doesn't mean

583
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:49.559
you're culpable or you're responsible, but
you may know something inadvertently that you don't

584
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.039
realize. Yeah, is something that's
so important. So you know, you

585
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:55.920
can be the difference maker even if
you're not a criminal. You know,

586
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.199
even if you're not involved, there's
there are things that can happen. You

587
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.679
know, you could work at enterprise. You could run a vehicle to somebody

588
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:07.239
and have no clue that that vehicle
they rented was part of a crime.

589
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.440
But you wouldn't know unless you listen
to a case, right, and who's

590
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:15.079
missing and whatnot? In my heart, my heart hurts for these victims who

591
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:22.039
who have been lost and it seems
like it seems like nothing's been things have

592
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:22.920
been done. I don't want to
say it, they haven't, but it

593
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.679
seems like nothing's moved forward. Yeah, and don't you want to matter?

594
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.880
That's right? That's right? And
and uh, you know with these with

595
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.840
these cases. I used to say, use the term closure and what are

596
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.400
you correcting me? One time?
And he said, you never really get

597
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:43.159
closure. What you get is resolation, correct, And what you get is

598
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:50.559
someone paying for their penance for committing
whatever horrific crime that you're talking about.

599
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:52.360
And this is how I like to
put it to Like people always say,

600
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.880
like again on the closure thing,
I agree, there's no closure and there's

601
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.480
just like there's no moving on.
You don't move on, you move forward

602
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.400
and on and forward are different.
If you've ever been in grief, if

603
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.960
you've ever lost someone, crime or
not, you don't move on. You

604
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.880
don't leave it behind. You carry
it with you. And just because people

605
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.880
carry it well doesn't mean it's not
heavy. You move forward. And what

606
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:17.400
I'd like to say is this,
imagine you're walking, you know, you're

607
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.000
walking the road of life, and
then something happens and you have to pick

608
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:27.159
up a boulder. Every time something
happens, that walks getting heavier. Yes,

609
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:31.159
and you're not leaving it behind.
It's still right there. You know,

610
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.039
that's right, And so we will
you know, just proven the point

611
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:44.159
that what kJ does and all you
know, all these true crime podcasters out

612
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.960
there that are talking about these cases, is what they're trying to do is

613
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:53.519
really shed a light on you know, a story you may cover where maybe

614
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:59.000
it's been a GUKN and maybe they
figured out who did it and that person

615
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:06.039
is is in prison now. But
maybe the circumstances of that led to someone

616
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.920
else see in a warning sign.
Oh my god. Yes, domestic violence,

617
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:12.960
y'all is. And I don't mean
this with any disrespect to people who

618
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.039
have been through it. But until
you've been through domestic violence, I promise

619
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:21.159
you you don't get it. I
promise you you don't. And and you

620
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:25.119
know, to see it over and
it's almost like color by number. What

621
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:30.519
these people do, what these aggressors
and these and these abusers do, it

622
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.920
is literally color by number. But
the problem is if you're not if you're

623
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.719
not there to color the book,
you don't realize it, right, You're

624
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.599
just showed up. And so I'm
hoping through all of it. This used

625
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:44.920
to be things that only police experienced, right that you know, we didn't

626
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.199
used to hear all of this when
you watch the news. But now people

627
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:54.920
are hearing and seeing and observing things
that cops have been seeing for decades,

628
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.840
right, And they used to go
home at night and deal with it themselves.

629
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.480
And no wonder we have drinking problem
and we have suicide rates and all

630
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.719
of that, and and you know, substance abuse in law enforcement. You

631
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.199
know, it's not normal. It's
not normal for people to treat each other

632
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.639
this way, and when we normalize
it, that's when we have a problem.

633
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.639
So I hope that these cases,
when I tell them, are not

634
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:21.440
entertainment value. I hope that they
are instructional value, you know, learning

635
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.920
value. There is, there is
absolute value in every horrific thing that ever

636
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:30.199
happens, and we need to use
it. You can maybe see it before

637
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.199
it gets there. Learn how to
take control, you know what I'm saying.

638
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.199
Yeah, I do take control of
your life. Take control of these

639
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:42.000
circumstances and control the things you can, you know, and maybe it'll be

640
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.719
the difference. And we'll never be
able to measure it, that's the crazy

641
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:50.239
part. You'll never be able to
measure the impact that it makes. And

642
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.079
that's a good thing because if you
can't measure it, that means it didn't

643
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.960
happen. That's right, the crimes
didn't happen. That's right, very well

644
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.920
said. There it is there.
It is almost like I'm a teacher.

645
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.800
I'll be learning stuff. Indeed,
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

646
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:09.679
So uh, you know, I
look forward to personally singing everybody at the

647
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:16.400
event and welcoming them, and look
forward to kJ uh telling just an amazing

648
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.760
fire street. And I'm gonna have
my new leather pants on. I got

649
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:22.800
me a new pair of leather paints, you know, like y'all wear y'all's

650
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:37.360
leather to I may wear a little
leather, but I will I will definitely

651
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.679
be there saying hell, let everybody
and and kind of and you know,

652
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.920
letting you know a little bit more
about kJ for she comes on the stage.

653
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:51.400
So thank y'all for uh from my
company, Envision, UH for supporting

654
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.519
you know, Kelly and all of
my podcasters that I deal with. But

655
00:46:54.639 --> 00:47:00.599
Kelly's a rare, rare breed and
uh and I'm just happy to be working

656
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.880
with her and in awe of her
talent daily. Thank you for taking a

657
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.079
chance on me though true talk.
Yeah, because you said come try it.

658
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:14.119
It was I knew what I had. It was like that Stanley Cup,

659
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:15.920
I know what I got, Hey, you know what I got?

660
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.280
He was just getting her to do
it, y'all. Well, hey,

661
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.639
y'all, keep messaging me, keep
writing me. I've got a banger of

662
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:23.440
an episode I'm working on too that's
gonna be released next So y'all y'all hang

663
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:28.719
in for that one. That's right. I almost said, I almost ended

664
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:34.960
it, like I said, until
next time. I'm Jim Chapman and and

665
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.719
I hope you all right. It's
funny, Well usually have something sassy to

666
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.360
say. Hang on, so you're
not gonna wear leather pants? Though probably

667
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.400
not. I might be adding a
little bit too much fuel to that fire,

668
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.840
all right, Well just no,
I am looking at you your pants

669
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:54.599
right now, and I don't know
what's tighter, your jeans or our friendship.