Sept. 4, 2024

Frozen In Fear: The Jennifer Paxton Case

Frozen In Fear: The Jennifer Paxton Case

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In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ explores the tragic case of Jennifer Paxton, whose life was consumed by addiction and ended in horrific circumstances. She details Jennifer’s desperate search for safety, her encounter with a seemingly ordinary couple, Sean and Rebecca, and the brutal violence she faced in their home.

Timestamps
02:36 The Life of Jennifer Paxton
07:52 Jennifer's Family Dynamics
12:15 Jennifer's Disappearance
15:08 Meet Sean and Rebecca
21:12 Rebecca's Relationship with Sean
24:21 The Turning Point
29:19 A Disturbing Confession
34:08 Police Investigation Begins
39:30 Discovery of Jennifer's Body
53:39 The Brutal Reality of Jennifer's Death
1:13:21 Unraveling the Truth
1:14:46 Life After the Crime

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable.

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Warning.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended,

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then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all,

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kJ here, I'm back for another episode of Unspeakable. Did

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you miss me last week? I'm so sorry. I had

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some things I had to take care of. But I'm

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back and this is a good one. I'm not even

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lying to you, all right, So let me give you

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a couple of shout outs real quick though, because I

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haven't I haven't listed these here in a hot minute,

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So I'm gonna start in Hoover, Alabama, Miss Susan Barfield.

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Hey Susan, thank you for joining.

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I love Hoover, Alabama makes me think of baseball, and

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so you're good people. I know it just because of

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where you live. And then this name just tells me

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you're good people. Alexa Jennings, Hey girl, Hey Valley Center, Kansas.

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What's going on out there? How are you doing? Are

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we cousins? I guess we are, Thanks for joining. I've

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got Miss Kathy Blackman. Now, Miss Kathy, you didn't tell

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me where you live, so I can't. I can't be specific,

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but just know Miss Kathy is out there. She has joined,

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and I'm so thankful to have her on my team,

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as well as Kathleen Butler from Mobile, Alabama.

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I got some al people, Alabama peoples in the house.

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I love it.

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And then right here locally, I've got April Pate from

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Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Hey, April, you're just a hop, skip

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and jump away from me. So thankful to have you

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here today. And last but not Lisa, Miss Lisa Baker

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from Denham Springs, Louisiana. Now, a little birdie told me

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that you work with my friend Wendy and that y'all

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do mammograms together on the affectionately called titty Bus.

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So I hope we're having a great week with Lisa.

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I hope you're smashing boobs and you're saving lives and

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I'm so thankful that you think enough of me to

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join in and be a part of my patreons. All right,

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So this case, y'all, it's a current trial that just

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wrapped up, So this is not an old one, literally

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like a week ago.

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This just wrapped up. So it's one you may have

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been following.

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But if not, get ready because this one it's one

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for the books. So it's gonna take place in Tennessee,

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and I'm telling you this is gonna be one that

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pierces your soul.

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And it it.

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Made me physic like repulsed, if I'm being honest, and

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it almost pulls the aggressive side out of me, which

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I know people know I'm already aggressive, but let's see

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how it strikes you and see if you feel the

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same way when I'm done. So this one takes place

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in twenty nineteen, but it just went to trial last week.

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Because remember, just because something happens one year doesn't mean

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it's going to go to trial, especially when it's one

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of this magnitude. So it's recent and it's big in

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the crime news. If you're following these up to date cases,

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then the name Jennifer Paxton is gonna ring a bell.

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If not.

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Let me tell you a little bit about her. She

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was born in nineteen eighty four, same year as me,

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and she was raised by her grandmother. Now, I want

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to tell you it was a decent upbringing. When she

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was younger, her her cousins lovingly remembered, you know that

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she was a fun kid. She was a blast to

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be around. But the light in her started to just

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fade away as she got older. So when this took

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place in twenty nineteen, she was now thirty six years old,

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and she had found herself in a place that she

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never expected to be, and honestly, she was struggling in life.

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So there had been a series of setbacks mixed with

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poor decision making, and it just found her spiraling into

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drug use that led her to just be a full

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blown heroin addict and suffering also with alcoholism. So over

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the years, she gave birth to seven children and they

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would all eventually be removed from her custody. And at

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the time that this took place, her children ranged in

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age from twelve to twenty one years old. She was homeless,

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and she just wandered the streets day after day. And

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I know that what I'm saying, right now doesn't seem

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very positive, but it's the truth. And I want you

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to know that Jennifer wasn't having a good time. My

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heart as a mama hurts for her. That she had

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seven children, that she lost custody of all of them.

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Heart hurts for those children. Obviously there was a reason why,

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and I could see why you would just become desperate

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and fall into despair. Now, her mother was still alive

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and her father was in prison, and she never had

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a relationship with him. She lacked a strong male figure

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in her life, and the only time she would really

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go visit family or her mother was to beg for

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money from her grandmother, who would get a Social Security

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check on the first of the month. So when you're

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looking at photos of her, because I did, I looked

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at these photos. She wanted to be pretty, y'all. She

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would take selfies with a phone if she had one.

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Her hair was brown, it was just below her shoulders,

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and at times you could tell when she was having

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I guess a better streak in her life because she

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would have highlights in her hair. She had a toothy

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smile when she grinned. Usually she had no makeup one

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and she had brown eyes and just an average looking

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woman living a hard life and time was paying a

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toll on her body. But she was trying to be pretty.

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I don't think there's a woman that walks the earth

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that wants to be unattractive. She was trying, but her

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lifestyle was not very conducive to maybe what she wanted.

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Her home life was a mess growing up. Now, when

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I said she had a decent upbringing, I mean her

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grandmother did a decent you know, did the best she

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could to raise her. But her home life was just

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an absolute, you know mess. And obviously this cycle was repeated.

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Her family would sometimes get messages through messenger, you know,

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asking her for food. And luckily, even through all of

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her struggles, Jennifer was loved. Her struggles were profound, but

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she did have at least one cousin who would keep

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tabs on her and would help her whenever.

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She was able to.

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And her cousin's name was Britney Payne, and like I said,

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she would do what she could to help her cousin.

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And this included things like she would drive to this

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wooded area where Jennifer had set up a tent and

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she would give her some money she would allow her

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to come over to her house from time to time

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to take a shower and try.

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To give her some decencies.

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Her cousin never said this, but having known drug addicts

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and known addiction, it's hard to love people who are

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in the active throes of addiction because you can't trust them.

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You don't know if they're gonna steal from you, you

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don't know a lot of things about them. So loving

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someone and opening your home to them, if you've ever

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been around an addict, they're two very different things. So

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Jennifer's existence was a pitiful one, but also self induced,

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and eventually it was realized that she was actually using

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her body for prostitution. Now what I've told you to

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this point is brutal honesty, but I do feel compelled

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to say this as well. I refuse to reduce her

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existence to the fact that.

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She was a junkie.

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I went through photos of her from years gone by,

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and I'm gonna tell you what I saw. I saw

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a young girl who was honestly trying to make it. Eventually,

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I saw a young mother who gave birth while in

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the throes of a horrible addiction. She was sick, she

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was not a waste. She was sick, and there are

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photos of her looking healthy and in a floral dress

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with slides on her feet and long brown hair. Photos

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of Christmas time with the family that she loved so dearly,

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and she's smiling ear to ear as a child on

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the same patterned couch my own grandmother owned. You know

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that brown and cream patterned couch in every early eighties

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home with the woodpanel walls. A matter of fact, today

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is my grandmother's birthday. I just thought about that. It's

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her first birthday in heaven, and that's okay. And maybe

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this is the kindred spirit that I feel with this

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girl that you know, we have a lot in common,

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although we have a lot that's not in common. But

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she was like me a young girl. She was full

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of hopes and dreams. There's photos of her sitting on

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Santa's lap and she's holding hands with her loved ones.

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Look at her blue roofed.

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Prom dress and her hair was all done up in

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another photo, huge smiles on her face. She had a

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life that was valuable, although now in current times she

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was suffering. Jennifer's mama loved her, and although loving her

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had been challenging, in the recent years because of her

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addiction and her behaviors, her family still wanted to know

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where she was and that she was relatively safe, so

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they usually spoke to her every couple of weeks when

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she came around for money. But they hadn't seen her

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since December the third, and it was now February going

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on almost two months, and they had not heard from her.

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And it was like clockwork when that check came in.

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That girl knew she was coming to try to get

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some money. So usually if she wasn't out in the

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woods at her tent or whatever, you could find her

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in jail. And they liked that, not because they were mean,

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but because again people who have experienced this will understand it.

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But you know that your loved one is safe, you

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know that they're being fed, you know that they're being

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given those basic decencies of living when they're in jail.

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But this time Jennifer wasn't there. Matter of fact, she

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wasn't anywhere they normally could find her. Most recently, Jennifer

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was known to walk around the area of a local

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I guess I'd call it a dive bar. It was

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called the Pinthouse on Merchant Drive and this was a

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place to get some greasy food. They'd boast arm wrestling

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and trivia nights. They have a seventy four percent recommendation

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score on Google. If you're wondering, I looked it up.

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I was curious what kind of.

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Place it was.

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So it also is a place that they could get

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rowdy at night. So there was like a baseball bat

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that they kept behind the bar that they would pull

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it out and bang on the bam, bam, bam. They'd

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bang on the desk if they needed security to come

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help them.

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To kind of give you a feel for the place.

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Well, Jennifer was commonly seen in that establishment using their restroom,

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even though that was frowned upon the workers. Again, they

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weren't mean. They just knew that once you let one

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transient in to use the bathroom, the floodgates would open

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and then all the non paying homeless people would be

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up in there using all of their facilities. But lucky

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for Jennifer, there was a cook there and he looked

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after her.

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He wouldn't show.

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Her off whenever she would come in. He had a

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soft place in his heart for her, and everybody knew it.

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Matter of fact, the other workers there picked on this

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cook and they claimed that she was his quote unquote girlfriend,

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and he would just laugh at off, knowing that she

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just needed help in life and that he was going

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to let her use the bathroom. So her family checked

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the restaurant as well as all of these normal places

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that she frequented, but she was just simply gone. So

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by February second of twenty twenty, Jennifer Gail Paxton was

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reported missing by her family. Now, considering that she was

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a transient with a high risk lifestyle, this would be

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a challenging person to find no matter what, but police

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were up for the challenge and they dug in hard

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to find her. To put it bluntly, though, the police

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found nothing. When I say nothing, I mean nuhhing, not

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a morsel. Nobody knew anything. It was like she just

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poof disappeared. No one had even spoken to her since December.

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The last known contact with her happened to be the

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police when they ran her name. They had an interaction

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with her when she was spotted just twirling in the

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roadway near the pint house. Now I don't know this

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for a fact, but I'm assuming that, yes, she was

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probably high and just innocently just twirling in the roadway.

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And that was the last time that there was a

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sighting of her. When the police kind of had that interaction.

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Eight months would pass and no one would see or

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hear from Jennifer, not even when that monthly social Security

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check came in that she always showed up for to

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beg for. Where was Jennifer Well. Across town there was

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a married couple that lived in an Oakridge apartment complex

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and their names were Mahogany and Colt Pico. Now I

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want to describe cult for you because you might get

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tickled by this. Colt's like a stocky guy. He's a

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stocky fella.

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He's chill.

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He's got this real laid back attitude. But he's not

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much of like a peoplely person. He's just happy to

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come home be with his wife. He's like that typical

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husband who goes to work and then comes home, watches

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football and he'll take.

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The trash out.

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He's husky, he's got a beard, and he just doesn't

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have time for anyone's shit.

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And I get tickled by.

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Listening to this guy talk because he's just just a

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good old boy. But as is usual, Mahogany his wife

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was the polar opposite. Social butterfly, friendly, helpful, and she

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gives off this very wrong maternal feeling about her. Her

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voice is soothing. She comes across as like a listener.

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And I don't know her ethnicity, but I want to

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just say that she gives off these strong, nurturing vibes.

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And she looks Hawaiian to me. She's very tan, she's

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got long black hair. Forgive me if I'm wrong, Please

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don't come at me. It's just an honest observation. I

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wanted you to kind of feel the essence of her

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whenever I'm talking about her. And this Mahogany was exactly

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the type of friend that another renter in the complex

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wanted in her life. That other renter was twenty six

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year old Rebecca Dishman. Now, Rebecca is of rounder stature.

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She's got a double chin, she's got squinty green eyes.

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I wouldn't say that she is traditionally pretty. She has

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this Her hair's thin, it's kind of stringy. It's split

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in a butt cut straight down the middle, and she's

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kind of don't be in stature, And don't think I'm

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being mean. I'm just letting you know what she looks like.

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She had been a lot through a lot in her life.

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She had lost both of her parents when she was

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eighteen years old, when she was a senior in high school,

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and there was a sadness that surrounded her. Although her

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uncle and her aunt did take her in, but they

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eventually got aggravated with her because she was one of

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those girls that was always getting engaged right and moving

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in and out with different And I'll say men, but

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I'm going to say young guys. Five engagements to be specific. Now,

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I know right now you're tripping and you're like, what

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do you mean five engagements? Who gets engaged five times?

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Let me explain this one to you. This feels more

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like when young people claim that they're engaged, but they

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really have no true financial or long term commitment plans.

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They just want to feel more legitimate by saying engaged.

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Did y' all know what I'm talking about Where it's

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it's not a real engagement, it's just wanting to feel validated,

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I guess in their relationship. Now, Rebecca was interested in healthcare.

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She worked as a CNA for a brief time, and

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then she was a waitress at the local huddle house.

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So I was kind of curious, how do you go

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from going to school to be a CNA to being

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a waitress at the Huddle House when you're interested in healthcare? Well,

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everyone that knew her described her similarly. They said she

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was very simple and quite frankly, pretty immature. She had

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literally been fired from every job she ever had. I'm

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not kidding you, every job she ever had. They cut

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her loose. And that seemed to back up this claim

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that she wasn't very intelligent. Now, she wasn't mentally disable

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or anything like that. She just wouldn't score high on

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an IQ test, So I don't want you to get

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that confused. She also didn't seem to realize that she

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wasn't very smart. It was like blissful ignorance, I guess

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you could say so. For example, a neighbor that lived

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in the complex talked about a time that it was

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a Halloween and how excited Rebecca had gotten to dress

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up for Halloween, and she even went trick or treating

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with the fifteen year old daughter. You know, she's twenty six,

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but she she missed that social cue that she was

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too old to be trick or cheating. Now, remember she's

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not mentally disabled. She's just not bright. But then again,

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she may not have been bright, but she was very

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acutely aware of another part of her life, and that

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was the fact that she was hyper sexual. She seemed

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to cling to anyone that would give her attention. Any

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male that spoke to Rebecca she all of a sudden

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was interested in. She had a pattern of being kicked

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out of the homes that she lived in, so she

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would float between the all these fiancees parents' homes because, by.

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The way, you know, they didn't have their own home.

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They're young.

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And then she eventually moved in with her best friend,

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who let her stay there for a while, and even

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her best friend was like, you gotta go.

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She just wasn't easy to live with.

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She loved to paint her nails, but darker colors were

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more her speed. Matter of fact, her personality all is

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rather dark, and in recent years she had become this

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self proclaimed goth. She liked vampires and Marilyn Manson. She

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liked those dark fairy images. You know, the type of

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people I'm talking about here. So maybe this totality of

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information explained the mismatch and age between Rebecca dishman and

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her recent boyfriend named Sean Finnegan. He was fifty six

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years old compared to Rebecca's twenty five twenty six, but

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he was interested in her and she jumped at the

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chance at being liked. They had met on Facebook and

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then they moved in together after knowing each other a

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whopping two weeks. Sean wanted her to move in and

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was happy to have someone to share the time with

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other than his mom. Yes, that's what I just said,

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his mom. He asked Rebecca to move in with him

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at his mom's.

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Wow.

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So neither of the pair were highly educated, combined with

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Rebecca's penchant for laziness, and so money was scarce in

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this household. But what they lacked in money, they did

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make up for in companionship, and they both seemed to

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be drawn to the same things. So Sean is kind

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of an average build man. He's on the skinnier side.

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He gives off greasy biker guy vibes. He's got long

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gray and brown hair it extends past his shoulders.

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He's got these little like.

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Their beady round eyes and they have like an oddness

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in their placement in his face. It's like they're almost

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inset deeper than the average person, and he has a

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very strong brow, and he comes off as gruff looking and.

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Not very approachable.

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So Sean worked in a restaurant and he was a

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huge fan of smoking weed. This dude was proud to

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smoke some weed and he would let you know on

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his Facebook if you were curious all about his weed smoking.

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Definitely a rough around the edges guy, but said to

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be a reliable worker and he was friendly with the

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other's staff, so at work they had no problems with him. So,

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while Shawn worked most days, Rebecca was unemployed and she

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referred to herself as a stay at home girlfriend. So

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Shawn's mother, her name was Francis, was very sick and

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she was actually on hospice care, so Rebecca would help

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her out with her meds and around the house. But

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they weren't close or anything. It was more like they

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were roommates sharing a two bedroom apartment. Sewn and Rebecca

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were in one room, Miss Francis was in the other,

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so oftentimes Rebecca would go outside to smoke. And that's

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how she befriended Mahogany Pico that I mentioned previously. So

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they would meet outside of each other's apartments. On the porches,

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they would smoke breaks, and they did this enough that

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they considered each other to eventually be friends. So over

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the months that they hung out, Rebecca began to really

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talk about her relationship with Sean and opened up about

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some problems that they were having, and she she would

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borrow Mahogany's cell phone when they hung out so that

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she could get on Facebook and talk to friends because

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she didn't have a cell phone of her own. So

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at one point, Sean, realizing this, walked over and he

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told Mahogany directly that he did not want her letting

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Rebecca use her phone. So Mahogany kind of thought of

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Rebecca as a little sister. She kind of mothered her,

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and it aggravated her that it seemed like Sean was

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trying to control her, like why do you care if

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she's on Facebook? Like, let the girl have some fun. Well,

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a little more time passed and Mahogany began to notice

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that Brucees were appearing more frequently on Rebecca, so she

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asked her about him, and Rebecca admitted, look, Sean Bruce me,

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and Mahogany would say, look, you don't deserve this. No

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one deserves to get bruises on them, and especially by

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someone that's supposed to be in a relationship with you.

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But Rebecca insisted, look, I love him. Okay, we have

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our struggles, but I love him. Eventually, though, Rebecca went

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over to smoke with Mahogany, and Mahogany noticed that she

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had black eyes and her glasses that she wore were broken.

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So enough was enough, and Mahogany was willing to help

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Rebecca leave if she wanted to, but Rebecca just wasn't

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ready to go yet. And if you've ever experienced domestic

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violence or someone who's been in a domestic violent situation,

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you understand it's just not that simple for people. And

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I'm not going to judge anyone who doesn't leave. I'm

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going to always suggest you get help, and you ask

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for help, and there are resources out there. But I'm

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not going to judge someone who doesn't leave. But this

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fighting between Rebecca and Sean seemed to be corroborated by

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another neighbor that shared an internal all with Rebecca and

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Sean's apartment. Okay, so there was a shared wall between

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their two apartments. Now, this neighbor's name was Kelsey Coons,

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so she and Rebecca were not friends like Mahogany and Rebecca,

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and they only had a handful of interactions. Based on

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those handful of interactions, Kelsey said she thought Rebecca was

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sweet and she even one time let Rebecca use her

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cell phone, and while Rebecca had it, she.

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Made a fake.

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Facebook profile under the name Luna Dishman and she confided

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in this other neighbor that she wanted to get away

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from Sean because she was afraid that Sean was going

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to kill her. Now, the neighbor Kelsey just kind of

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thought she was exaggerating a little bit, but she did

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allow her to use the phone to see you, Okay,

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if you need to talk to somebody, you can use

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my phone. She also heard beating and banging on the

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walls in the past, but there was a more recent

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incident that was kind of replaying in this neighbor's mind

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and it had stuck with her. After Rebecca said she

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was afraid of Sean, this neighbor thought she heard a fight.

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She said it sounded like things were being thrown and

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that voices were being raised, and she remembered it to

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be between eleven am and one pm. And the reason

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she remembered that was because she was super aggravated because

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she had a little baby and that was trying to

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nap and this you know, interaction was waking up the baby.

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That's how loud it was.

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And she could tell because of the shared wall, that

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the fight had moved, you know, it was in the kitchen,

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and then it had moved into another room. And she said,

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then there was a break. It got really quiet for

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a little while, and then she could tell that there

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was a commotion going on in the upstairs bedroom. Now

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she was very specific about said commotion. She said, she

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heard what she thought was a headboard banging into the wall,

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and it was aggressive and it sounded like people were

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having sex and the headboard beating against the sheet rock.

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And this went on for days.

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Obviously there were little breaks in between, but it went

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on for literal days, and so Kelsey Coon's, the neighbor,

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got it increasingly agitated. Now she never called the police

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or anything, but was beyond frustrated at the lack of

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care that her neighbors seemed to be, you know, exhibiting

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in terms of their noise level. If you want to

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have some rowdy sex go for it, but I mean, damn,

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move your headboard, pull your bed back. Well. More time

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passed and eventually Rebecca, back talking to Mahogany, said okay, look,

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I'm ready. If you'll help me get out, I'm ready,

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00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.920
I'll go. And she said, Sean's just being too much

471
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.720
and I'm really scared. I've got to go. So Mahogany said,

472
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:47.519
no problem. If you want out, today's day and I'll

473
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.319
help you today. So they ran to the apartment. They

474
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.759
grabbed a few trash bags. They stuffed all of Rebecca

475
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:56.599
Dishman's things into these trash bags and then they quickly

476
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.279
threw them in the car and they headed out towards

477
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:06.480
a woman's like abused woman's shelter. Now, Mahogany's husband did

478
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:09.240
not want her getting involved in this whole situation, but

479
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.519
he knows his wife, and he said, look, I know her.

480
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:13.480
She's dead set when she wants to help somebody, Just

481
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:15.119
get out of her way. And that's what he did.

482
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.480
So as they were driving off, Seawan's mother, Miss Francis,

483
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.519
realized what was happening, and she started yelling out of

484
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:23.680
the window that.

485
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.000
I'm gonna call Sean. I'm calling Sean.

486
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.279
Well, the two women were like colling, screw you, lady,

487
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.720
and they tore out of the driveway and drove off

488
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.640
into the distance, ignoring.

489
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:35.519
The old lady's yelling.

490
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:41.680
Well, shortly thereafter, Sean shows up at the apartment and

491
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:46.559
he goes tearing into Mahogany and Colt Pico's driveway and

492
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:50.920
he was pissed. I'm talking pissed with a capital P.

493
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:55.480
He was yelling at Colt the husband about Mahogany taking

494
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:58.640
his girlfriend, and he was threatening to kill Colt in

495
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:01.799
the front yard. Now, I told you cold ain't gonna

496
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:05.000
take any shit, but he did try to diffuse the situation.

497
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:07.799
But when Shawn wouldn't calm down, he was like, f

498
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.400
this and he called the police. So while this is

499
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.440
going down, Mahogany has no idea. She and Rebecca are

500
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.640
driving towards the shelter and they're talking about how they

501
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:20.839
are planning to try to get an order of protection

502
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:26.920
against Sean for Rebecca. Well, during that drive, Rebecca just

503
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:34.559
starts breaking down, crying, legitimately crying and visibly upset, and

504
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.400
that's how it kind of rolled into her explaining the

505
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:39.920
extent of the abuse that she said she had been

506
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.960
subjected to by Sean. The reality of Sean and Rebecca's

507
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:50.559
relationship was that they were anything, anything but vanilla, and

508
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:55.400
they had some sadistic tendencies between them. All Right, real quick,

509
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.599
I know I have some teenagers that listen to this sometimes,

510
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:02.200
some younger sided teenagers. I'm just gonna go ahead and say, parents,

511
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:06.279
if your kids are younger teenagers, may want to take

512
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.480
a little pause here, but I'll leave that up to you.

513
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:10.079
Now.

514
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.680
Sean was the more dominating of the two in the relationship,

515
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:18.880
and he used violence and sex as punishment when Rebecca

516
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.599
made him mad, and they worked in this like master

517
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.759
servant mentality in their relationship. So the quote unquote punishment

518
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.920
included he would lock her in a dog cage. He

519
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.880
would sometimes shit on her, He would chain her up,

520
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:38.839
and he liked to cut into her legs for like

521
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:43.759
sexual gratification. He would put a dog chain on her

522
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.599
neck and she would walk around on all fours in

523
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:51.279
this master servant relationship. And sometimes he would burn her

524
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.559
with lighters. And they were into some freaky shit. That

525
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:55.519
is all I can tell you.

526
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:56.519
Now.

527
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:01.519
As hard as that was to hear, that wasn't the

528
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:05.440
worst thing that Rebecca was going to say to Mahogany

529
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.240
because out of left field, after she's explaining all of

530
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:13.200
this abuse in this relationship she had, you know, endured.

531
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:17.279
She then looks at Mahogany and says, oh, yeah, Sewn

532
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.440
also killed a girl.

533
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.039
So Mahogany didn't quite believe it at first.

534
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.640
She really thought that Rebecca was just being the kind

535
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.160
of extra and just saying things because she might she

536
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:29.960
was mad. But that's when Rebecca looked at her and said, look,

537
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.200
I swear on my parent's grave he killed a girl,

538
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.240
and she started tearing up. Well, Mahogany knew her well

539
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:38.279
enough to know that that was not something she would

540
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.480
do because she loved her parents that were deceased. She

541
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:46.839
cared about them a lot. Rebecca then recounted how Sean

542
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:50.240
supposedly strangled a girl to death and that she was

543
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:57.359
being stored in a freezer in their apartment. So, stunned

544
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:04.400
and horrified, Mahogany cantinue to drive and just listened as

545
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:08.039
Rebecca kind of mouth vomited word, vomited a whole bunch

546
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.799
of information that was terrifying. When they made it to

547
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.599
the police station at the nearby Oakridge County where they

548
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:16.319
were scheduled to meet with the intake woman who was

549
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.000
going to be at the battered woman shelter. The woman

550
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.119
no showed, so they were just kind of sitting there,

551
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.039
and they ended up speaking with a detective who decided

552
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.400
to take Rebecca back for further questioning once she had

553
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:33.039
exposed this truth that supposedly Sean had killed a woman. Well,

554
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.880
at this point, Mahogany had a break from Rebecca and

555
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.200
she calls her husband and says, listen to what Rebecca

556
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.839
just told me, and kind of recounts about the dead

557
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.960
woman supposedly in a freezer. Well, turns out that the

558
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.960
police at this point were still at the apartment. They

559
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.119
had shown up because of that original call of the

560
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.200
disturbance where Sean had been threatening Colt, and this was

561
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:01.119
on August fifth of twenty twenty. Officer La Dodell responded

562
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:05.000
to the disturbance at the Pico's apartment, and Sean was

563
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.519
pissed and was saying that the Picos had quote gotten

564
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.000
in his business and taken his girlfriend off to a

565
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:11.720
woman shelter.

566
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:14.759
So they're going back and forth, and that's.

567
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.359
When Colt pipes up and says, yeah, officer, maybe you

568
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.480
ought to talk to him about there being a dead

569
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.640
body in his apartment too while we're at it. So

570
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:28.160
Officer Dodell directly asks Sean, okay, is there a dead

571
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:32.200
body in your apartment, to which he denied, and he

572
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.400
was getting angrier and angrier by the second even yelled

573
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:37.319
at the cop. No, there ain't no damn body in

574
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.720
my house, all right. So I want to tell you

575
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:42.160
this real quick. I know right now you're like, well,

576
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:43.640
why didn't the police go in and look there's going

577
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:45.640
to take his word for it. Well, the answer is yes,

578
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.079
because that's not enough for someone just to accuse you

579
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:50.359
of having a dead body in your house. I mean,

580
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:51.759
we could all do that for people we don't like,

581
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:52.799
and then the police would bust.

582
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:54.640
Up in your house. You have to have more than that.

583
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.559
And since they didn't have enough probable cause other than

584
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.839
someone's supposed, you know, claim to someone else telling someone

585
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:03.720
else that there might be a body in the apartment,

586
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:05.000
the police did what.

587
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:06.119
They could to diffuse it.

588
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.119
They told them, look, you boys need to separate, do

589
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:10.839
not come near each other again, and you better play

590
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.319
nice because if we come back, somebody's going to jail

591
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:18.519
and then the police left. Well, meanwhile, Rebecca was still

592
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.200
at the police station talking to the detectives, and she

593
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.480
recounted to Lieutenant Roy Heinz was his name, He was

594
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.519
the lieutenant over criminal investigations. She recounted in detail what

595
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.400
had supposedly happened. She told him that a woman had

596
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:37.240
been beaten, raped, tortured, and then ultimately killed in the

597
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:43.200
home by Sean. Now, as this detective Roy is listening

598
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.400
to all of this, his feeling was just kind of

599
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:51.480
kind of taken aback by how emotionally flat Rebecca was

600
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:56.119
during the whole telling of this story. And so this

601
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.880
could be referred to as emotional blunting if you've ever

602
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.359
heard of that. But that's basically when you could have

603
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.200
You could attribute this to someone who's who's gnum to

604
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:08.480
both positive and negative reactions, like people who can't seem

605
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:11.240
to cry or feel sad about things that would normally

606
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.599
make you sad. They also can't seem to laugh about

607
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.480
things that a normal person would laugh about. But this

608
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.160
can be tied to like PTSD from this event, but

609
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.880
it also that's one side of it, but it also

610
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.480
could be attributed to someone who's a friggin sociopath, and

611
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:28.799
so police would have to kind of figure this out

612
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.680
because emotional blunting is also a characteristic of people with

613
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:39.720
psychopathic traits, and it basically manifests a reduced capacity to

614
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:45.319
experience emotions. So this can include a diminished response to

615
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.039
negative stimuli, emotional detachment. And so they were kind of

616
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.240
riding the line trying to figure out is she suffering

617
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.039
PTSD or is she nuts?

618
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:56.279
You know which? Which? Which way are we going here

619
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.640
with this? So trying to figure it out.

620
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.559
They listen in and they needed some like solid evidence

621
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.240
that what she was telling them was truthful. And ultimately,

622
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:09.239
when she was done telling them everything, they believed her.

623
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.559
They believe she was telling the truth. Now, she wasn't

624
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.280
under arrest, but they believed her so much that they

625
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.760
decided to read her her miranda rights due to the

626
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:23.119
significant detail that she had given in her statements. So

627
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:26.280
at this point, Brian Yuck, he's the sergeant over the

628
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:29.719
drug unit and he's the director of their crime Task force.

629
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.440
He decides, let's go set up surveillance on the home.

630
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:35.519
Let's keep eyes on Sean and see what he's about

631
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.519
and what he's doing. Because obviously Sean would realize his

632
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:42.039
girlfriend's gone, and if this is true, we want to

633
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.519
put eyes on him and make sure he's not.

634
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:44.800
Getting rid of a body.

635
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.880
Well, all Sean really did was hang out around his

636
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:52.559
house on his porch and smoke and then maybe go

637
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:54.679
to work. I mean, he didn't do anything that seemed

638
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.280
odd or out of place. So that was all on

639
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:03.039
August fifth. The evidence and I'm going to get into it,

640
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:06.360
but the evidence that Rebecca submitted was so compelling that

641
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.719
police were able to obtain a search warrant for the

642
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:14.679
home that day and in the early hours of August sixth,

643
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:18.559
the next day, due to the alleged severity of this crime,

644
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.920
the SWAT team was activated to execute the search warrant

645
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.840
on Sean Finnegan and Rebecca Dishman's home, and they even

646
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.239
used their armored vehicle for safety. That's how red flag

647
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.519
the police wore about what Rebecca had told them. So

648
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:37.679
at four twenty six am, SWAT entered the home and

649
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.800
they cleared it. The only people there were Sean and

650
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.800
his mom. Now, Sean was reacted, he was surprised, and

651
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.960
he was in shock, and he was in disbelief when

652
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.920
he heard that he was being accused of having a

653
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.400
dead frickin body in his house. He was taken aback.

654
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.639
He's like, this is insane? Are you kidding me? And

655
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.840
his mother apparently wasn't grasping why they were there because

656
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.760
she was upset and couldn't believe that swat team was

657
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.199
there and doing all of this in her house over

658
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.119
quote a little weed. So I don't mom was kind

659
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.559
of struggle busting here. I don't think she understood the

660
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.440
gravity of what was happening because weed hadn't even been

661
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.840
mentioned at this point. Maybe it was her assumption because

662
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.320
she knew her son, you know, smoked weed all the time,

663
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:21.360
But I'm not.

664
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:22.519
Sure why she said that.

665
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:25.800
So. Detective Alan Moore was the lead at the scene,

666
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:30.719
and he was immediately struck by how tidy the house was.

667
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.800
It was nowhere near this house of horrors he expected

668
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:40.480
based on what all Rebecca had said. But the upright

669
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:46.360
white freezer that Rebecca had mentioned was found upstairs, just

670
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.239
as she said it would be, so prepared for the worst.

671
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:57.440
The detectives found the freezer, and then they slowly opened

672
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:03.840
the door and lo and behold, there they found nothing.

673
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.239
The only thing in that freezer was a pizza box.

674
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.760
There might have been a burrito too, I can't remember,

675
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.800
but there was nothing in there. There was no body

676
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:18.719
in the freezer. So this was a relief for sure,

677
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.559
but it was also dumbfounding after just all of these

678
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:29.239
very detailed specifics that Rebecca had given. So perplexed that

679
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:33.159
maybe they had been duped, Detective More kind of stepped

680
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:35.440
back in the room, and I can just imagine him

681
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.800
with his hand over his mouth, just looking around, going, Okay,

682
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.880
this house is clean, it's tidy, and he's just looking

683
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.360
around the room for anything that might lend itself to

684
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.599
what Rebecca had said, and it just wasn't there.

685
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:50.239
So he's like, maybe she really is crazy. Maybe we

686
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:51.039
got this wrong.

687
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.440
So as he's looking around the room, curiosity got the

688
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.639
better of him because there was something narrow poking slightly

689
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.880
out from underneath the foot of the bed, and so

690
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.199
just wondering, maybe this is a piece of evidence of

691
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.039
some sort. The detective bent down and he grabbed it

692
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.440
to look at it. Now, it was something wrapped in plastic,

693
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.880
but when he grabbed it, what got his immediate attention

694
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:19.840
was the fact that it was freezing cold. It took

695
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.800
him by such total surprise it startled him enough to

696
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:27.039
scramble backwards from it, and it just shock the hell

697
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:31.199
out of him. So he got back, you know, got

698
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.719
his senses back to him, and he and other officers

699
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:36.840
tried to pull the object out front of the bed,

700
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.480
and they couldn't, so they grabbed the mattress and they

701
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:45.239
flipped it off the bed, and immediately they realized that

702
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:49.119
there lay a woman, face turned up, but in the

703
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:56.239
fetal position, frozen solid under the bed. She was clearly

704
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:01.199
battered and broken. Now our whole body was there, but

705
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.079
she had It was very obvious that she had been

706
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:08.079
greatly traumatized. And something that was very unsettling to the

707
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:10.599
officers as they looked at her was that her nose

708
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:16.599
was missing. Rebecca Dishman, she told the truth. There was

709
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:20.320
a dead woman in the home. She had been removed

710
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.920
from that freezer that she was in and stuffed under

711
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.599
the bed. What the detective had grabbed was the dead

712
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:33.079
woman's frozen foot. So this was now a crime scene.

713
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.199
Who was this woman and how did she end up

714
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.280
frozen solid under a bed. So as they inventoried the

715
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:43.360
home and they processed the scene, they also found some

716
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.320
other items out on the porch in a filthy bucket

717
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:51.840
and this included a choke caller and dog chains, which

718
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:56.000
was some stuff that Rebecca had mentioned. Little did they

719
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.840
know at the time, but they were about to solve

720
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:03.000
an eight month miss person's case. So, as you've likely guessed,

721
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:08.360
police had just found the body of missing Jennifer Paxton.

722
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:11.840
But how did she end up in Sean and Rebecca's home.

723
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:16.199
What was the link between the two? They didn't, they

724
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:21.480
didn't seem to have any connection. Well, when questioning Sean,

725
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:25.440
he denied, complete, completely denied responsibility for killing Jennifer.

726
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:28.119
It it kind of made me think of this.

727
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.360
Do you all remember when Paris Hilton was arrested years

728
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.599
ago and she had cocaine in her pocket and then

729
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:34.719
when the police were like, oh, we found your cocaine

730
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.440
in your pocket and her only her response to them

731
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:39.400
was like, oh, these aren't my pants, I borrowed them.

732
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:45.079
This seemed to be that level of you know, proclaimed innocence. Well, yeah,

733
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.400
I just accidentally ended up with a frozen dead woman

734
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.840
under my bed, you know, totally plausible, said no one ever,

735
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.760
So you know, do you did you know her at all?

736
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:59.599
Sean and Sean replied he did know her. He was

737
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:04.000
that at the pinthouse where she would come and use

738
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:09.199
the bathroom. That's the one remember the workers joked about

739
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:13.239
her being his girlfriend. Yep, he's that cook from the pinthouse.

740
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.960
When she and Sean had struck up that little short

741
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:22.039
term friendship, he at one point offered to her that

742
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.519
he could come and stay at his house with him

743
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.159
and his girlfriend for a while if she needed shelter

744
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.440
and if she'd like a place to sleep, And she

745
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.159
was more than happy to jump on that offer, and

746
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.760
that sounded way better than being out in the elements

747
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:40.280
in a tent. And so I'm sure Jennifer was thinking

748
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.199
she hit the jackpot when she realized that Sean and

749
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:47.039
Rebecca were willing to help somehow, and especially seeing that

750
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:47.719
she was down.

751
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.119
On her luck. So, according to Rebecca, this is what happened.

752
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.800
Jennifer and Sean arrived at their home, and Rebecca was

753
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.119
initially surprised to see Jennifer with him. She wasn't expecting

754
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:03.480
a woman to come home with him. She said that

755
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:06.480
Sean introduced the two of them and they exchanged greetings

756
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.800
and then eager to be helpful to the people that

757
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.159
were being so gracious to her, and sharing their home.

758
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:16.320
Jennifer happily helped to make breakfast with Sean and Rebecca,

759
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.440
and then she wanted to take a shower, and they said,

760
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.599
no problem, and she ran off to go take her shower.

761
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.719
I'm sure that she was just relieved to have a

762
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.639
fresh bath, to get cleaned up, to have clean hair,

763
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.280
and then once out of the bath, she returned to

764
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.199
the kitchen where they all ate breakfast together. They were

765
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.480
chatting and having small talk as they kind of ate,

766
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:41.920
and the two women were getting acquainted. But something had

767
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:45.960
happened while Jennifer was upstairs showering that she had no

768
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.320
way of anticipating. There had been a conversation that was

769
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:56.280
taking shape downstairs between Sean and Rebecca and the possibility

770
00:42:56.320 --> 00:43:00.679
of whether they wanted to kidnap the unwitting Jennifer and

771
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.840
use her for their sexual gratification. And this is scary

772
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.199
to me, you know, Jennifer thought she was getting a

773
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.039
helping hand, when in reality, she had walked right into

774
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:16.639
a trap with horrors that she had no idea would come,

775
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:20.800
and she was not in a position to probably think clearly,

776
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.039
and she was desperate, and they sensed that in her.

777
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.079
After they ate breakfast, Sean brought Jennifer over to the

778
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.280
back door and was showing her some stuff he had,

779
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:33.440
and he had a baseball bat that was leaning up

780
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:34.960
against the back door, and he was showing her the

781
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:39.199
baseball bat, so they began talking about it when he

782
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.199
suddenly raised it, swung it and cracked Jennifer over the head,

783
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:49.519
causing a severe injury to her skull. After this happened

784
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:51.920
and sensing, oh my god, my life is in danger,

785
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:56.360
Jennifer may have been seriously injured, but she tried to

786
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.280
put up the best fight that she could. She mustered

787
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:02.679
up all of her strength in trying to escape Shawn's attack,

788
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.559
and as the attack continued, Shawn's mother started walking down

789
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.519
the stairs for her medication, so Sean turned and yelled

790
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.000
at Rebecca to go upstairs and handle his mom while

791
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:17.039
he finished off what he was doing assaulting Jennifer. So

792
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.320
Rebecca said she went upstairs and brought the medicine like

793
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:21.800
she was told, and then when she came back downstairs,

794
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.360
she said she found Jennifer using a fireplace great to

795
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.639
try and defend herself. Although very injured and bleeding all

796
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:33.519
over the floor, she did everything she could. She being

797
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.320
Jennifer to try to defend herself from the attack that

798
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.639
was taking place. So the a fight had extended from

799
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.039
the kitchen to the living room, and there was a

800
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.440
blood trail that followed Jennifer's every step. And she wasn't

801
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.960
even able to swing the fireplace great or anything, y'all.

802
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:51.320
She was weak and she was hurt. Her head was

803
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:54.039
killing her. She was more of just cowering and placing

804
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:58.079
it in front of her body. Now, I'm gonna jump

805
00:44:58.079 --> 00:44:59.960
in real quick and tell you what Shawn's account was

806
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:05.079
of what actually happened. Sean says that Jennifer agreed to

807
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:06.960
go to the house with him and that they were

808
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.599
going to have sex for one hundred dollars, and that

809
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.360
he went to pee and she went.

810
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:13.199
To go take a shower.

811
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.360
So after he says that that Jennifer was hit in

812
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.280
the head by Rebecca, then he comes back and says,

813
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:24.559
and then Jennifer voluntarily went upstairs with the both of

814
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.639
us after being hit with a baseball bat, like, are

815
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.280
you fricking serious? But he's you know, I'll let you

816
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:33.360
decide what you think is true here. But you know,

817
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:35.239
by the way, I thought i'd add this too. It

818
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.960
turns out that the baseball bat used to quiet down

819
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.880
the customers at Shawn's work. Remember, they would bang on

820
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:46.559
the counter. It's never been recovered to this day. I

821
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.519
guess that's just a coincidence. I just I think you

822
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:52.159
need to know that as well. So Jennifer was weak

823
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.400
and woozy by this point, She's got a serious head injury,

824
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.440
and both Sean and Rebecca picked her up from under

825
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.159
her arms, and then they both escorted her up the

826
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:07.320
stairs to their bedroom. Sean then told Rebecca to go

827
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.719
get some cleaning supplies and go clean up the blood downstairs,

828
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:16.559
while he started to engage in sexually assaulting Jennifer. Now

829
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:19.880
this is where I think I get frustrated when I

830
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.639
hear people talk about what happens to our victims, because

831
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.280
most of the time it's left that sexually assaulted her.

832
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:30.760
Sexual assault to me is like, you know, grabbing, touching,

833
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.679
doing something that someone doesn't want. I'm gonna tell you

834
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.760
the nitty gritty of what this guy did, because that's

835
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:44.079
not strong enough. This is abuse, this is rape, this

836
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:47.719
is horrible. So he brings the injured woman up there,

837
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:51.440
throws her down, rips off her pants, the whole time,

838
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:55.320
he's yelling and spewing atrocities at her, and he's screaming

839
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.400
things at her, and this is like a direct quote,

840
00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:58.639
why don't you shave?

841
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:00.320
Well?

842
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.519
At that point, Jennifer just started crying and sobbing. She

843
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:07.679
didn't know what to do. She was laying on the ground.

844
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:11.840
He started spitting on her, super aggressive in that attack,

845
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.840
and then he all out raped her. A very brutal,

846
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.239
brutal rape of this girl.

847
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.079
And he wasn't the only one involved.

848
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.639
I want to tell you that he forced Jennifer to

849
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.880
perform oral sex on him on the floor next to

850
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.960
the bed, while Rebecca came back up and watched it.

851
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:38.000
According to Rebecca, Sean then got mad at Jennifer because

852
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:41.480
she wasn't able to completely satisfy him during the oral sex,

853
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.079
and so he called Rebecca closer and he pulled Rebecca's

854
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:51.599
shirt down, and then Rebecca finished him off. During that time,

855
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:58.880
Rebecca stayed in the room with Jennifer. Once Sean and

856
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.519
finished the second act, she stayed in the room with Jennifer.

857
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.320
Sean then returned back up to the bedroom he had

858
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:10.039
walked out, and he returned with chains like he used

859
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.800
to tye up dogs. Outside, and that's when he pulled

860
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.800
Jennifer to the foot of the bed and he chained

861
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.639
her to it like a dog. He wrapped the chains

862
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:21.880
around her and chained her to the foot of the bed.

863
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.360
He then nonchalantly kissed Rebecca goodbye and told her to

864
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:29.480
keep an eye on their captive make sure she doesn't leave.

865
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.800
And he had secured the chains with padlocks, and then

866
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:37.360
he took the keys with him, so he left for work,

867
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.360
and Rebecca gave her food and drink. She said they

868
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.639
smoked some cigarettes during the day, and Rebecca said that

869
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:46.239
they did talk and at one point she claimed that

870
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.519
she tried to cut the locks from Jennifer as well

871
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:51.679
as to cut the zip ties, but she just couldn't.

872
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:51.880
Get them off.

873
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.519
And when Sean returned from work, he got really mad

874
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:57.599
at her and was yelling at her for messing with

875
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:02.199
the restraints, and as punished, he made Rebecca perform oral

876
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.159
sex on him. I want to point something out here.

877
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:09.679
Though Rebecca could have gone and gotten help, I think

878
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.920
a normal person would have done so. In an abusive situation,

879
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.039
half ass attempting to remove chain restraints, it just doesn't

880
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:18.440
touch my heart very much.

881
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:21.639
She had she had.

882
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.400
Freedom of movement, She could go outside and smoke cigarettes,

883
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:26.599
she could go talk to anybody she wanted to, but

884
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:29.039
she never went and got help. I want to briefly

885
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.280
point something else out to remember how I said Sean

886
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.920
and Rebecca had a master slave sexual relationship. I mean

887
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:39.639
this in an agreement sense, like bondage and BDSM aka

888
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.000
you kinky sex. That is something that some people engage in,

889
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.880
And the thought behind this is that it does something

890
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:48.760
emotionally for the two people that are involved because it

891
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:53.199
falls somewhere in the wheelhouse of increasing feelings of trust

892
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:57.159
between the two people and respecting boundaries, and there's like

893
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.000
an emotional safety that comes with it. You're able to explore,

894
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.119
you know, non conventional sex interests without judgment.

895
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.960
So that's kind of the turnal one whenever it's.

896
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:11.400
A bondage BDSM kinky sex master servant relationship type thing.

897
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:18.079
But that's what Rebecca and Sean were experiencing together. But

898
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:23.159
what Jennifer and Sean would experience together was more about

899
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:27.960
the sadistic side. Sadistic acts include chaining some on or

900
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:32.199
handcuffing them, imprisoning them, biting them, beating them, and it's

901
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:36.320
all with the purpose of sexual pleasure from the humiliation,

902
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.360
the fear, and the mental harm it's doing to the

903
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.400
other person. It's a very different take depending on which

904
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.239
person you're doing this with. So to argue that both

905
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.559
Rebecca and Jennifer were both victims experiencing the same torture,

906
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:51.719
I don't buy that at all, and I'm going to

907
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.840
touch more on this later. I think it's two very

908
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.800
different experiences that these women are having. The torture that

909
00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:00.280
Jennifer would experience was more than rape. She was also

910
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:05.280
brutalized in many ways. This included having adult toys forcefully

911
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.280
shoved inside of her body by Sean, as well as

912
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:12.239
other objects, all while Rebecca sat there and watched. They

913
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:16.320
would engage in group sex basically together, and Jennifer of

914
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.079
course didn't want to, but she was chained to the bed.

915
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:20.320
She couldn't get away.

916
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:24.760
She had to, and Sean and Rebecca raped her together,

917
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:32.480
with the final pleasure occurring with Rebecca straddling Jennifer naked

918
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:39.400
and Sean then, according to Rebecca, forced Rebecca to climax

919
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:44.639
on top of her. So real quick, you're supposedly a

920
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.599
victim in this whole sex act, and you're somehow being

921
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.079
forced to orgasm on top. I'm not what No, I'm

922
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.880
not buying that at all. When this happened, Jennifer cried

923
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.039
out and was screaming and was just revolted by what

924
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.280
was happening, scream out, I'm gonna throw up.

925
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:02.840
So Sean rare.

926
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:05.880
Backed and just slapped her across the face. And after

927
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:09.519
the sex acts were completed, and this this went on

928
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.280
and on and on, you'll, Rebecca and Sean would then

929
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:16.320
crawl into bed together and fall asleep, leaving Jennifer naked

930
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:21.159
and chained to the bed on the floor. So eventually

931
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.119
Jennifer would need to use the restroom. So the next

932
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:28.960
day she was introduced to her quote unquote bathroom, which

933
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:33.400
was a flower pot sized bucket. I'll call it a bucket,

934
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:36.280
but it's a pot. And it was the one that

935
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.800
they used outside to put their cigarette butts out in

936
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:42.119
that now became her toilet. She was stripped of all dignities.

937
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:48.840
They also forced her to wear adult diapers. At one point,

938
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:53.400
Rebecca even said that Jennifer begged Rebecca please just let

939
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.079
me leave, and Rebecca looked at her and said, I

940
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:59.760
wish I could do that, but I can't. This does

941
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:03.320
not feel like two women being brutalized. This feels like

942
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:08.320
one that has a power over another. When Jennifer asked

943
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:12.000
Sean to let her go, Jennifer said, please let me go.

944
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:14.599
He looked this woman in the face, and I want

945
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.159
you to know this has gone on for days, Brutal rapes,

946
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:23.239
brutal attacks, over and over and over again for days.

947
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:26.440
He looked that woman in the head that he had

948
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:29.440
beat over the head with a baseball bat, rape slapped

949
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.559
in the face, forced to wear adult diapers, to engage

950
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.599
in group rape. He looked her in the face and said,

951
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.119
you're not going anywhere, and you need to prepare her

952
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:44.159
because you're gonna die. He enjoyed scaring her. He scared her.

953
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:44.880
Out of her mind.

954
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:48.480
Jennifer started crying at the fear of what she had

955
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.159
just been told, and Sean responded to that fear by

956
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:55.000
kicking her and spitting on her as he continued to

957
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.559
beat her. And now he added to this strangulation as

958
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.119
part of his torture tactic. He would use a shoe

959
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:07.599
string to strangle Jennifer within an inch of her last breath,

960
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:10.440
and then he would release it, and then he would

961
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:13.360
do it again, and then he would release it, and

962
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.400
he found joy in watching her suffer and the fear

963
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.280
that she could not hide the reality of what was

964
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.480
happening to her and she couldn't escape it. Not to mention,

965
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:26.039
she was suffering from a horrendous head wound from a

966
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:31.719
baseball bat across the head. Eventually, after this torture had

967
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.760
gone on and on and on, the two of them

968
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:37.960
put Jennifer in the shower and they bathed her because

969
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:41.039
she was in such terrible condition and she was so

970
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:43.599
injured that there was blood on the floor, there was

971
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.639
blood all over her, and there was blood that had

972
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:52.000
to be cleaned up on everything. So while they're bathing

973
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:55.679
this woman off, this poor woman, Sean had come home

974
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:58.639
from work that day and he had bags of bleach

975
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.440
and washrags and shower curtains, which Rebecca claimed she thought

976
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.199
they were just for the house, but then later realized

977
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:08.039
it was clean up the blood and all of the

978
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:11.079
abuse up That just didn't click, she said. Whenever he

979
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:14.440
brought it home, supposedly, Sean started yelling at her, her

980
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.760
being Rebecca, and said you're taking too long to clean it,

981
00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:20.760
and said come back, come back over here, and so

982
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.199
she went back in the bathroom and she found Sean

983
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:27.679
straddling Jennifer and strangling her with that shoe string. But

984
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.639
this didn't go on for minutes. It went on for

985
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.320
hours and hours. The agony, the start and the stop

986
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.440
of this abuse and this torture to almost strangle someone

987
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:41.480
to death and then to let him have a breath,

988
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.039
just to continue to do it over and over again.

989
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:48.119
And he did this so long that he even took

990
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:54.079
smoke breaks between his torture sessions. And eventually, y'all, Jennifer's

991
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:58.840
body began to give out. She was dying. Sean coldly

992
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.679
went to empty and ashtray as Jennifer laid there, taking

993
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:07.119
her last breaths on the floor, naked and chained to

994
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:11.960
a bed. Now, Rebecca says that she then got on

995
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.960
her hands and knees because she knew Jennifer was dying,

996
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:17.159
and she whispered goodbye to her.

997
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:18.400
And.

998
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:23.760
Sounding as if this was a moment of kindness is

999
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:27.039
lost on me, because people, friends, I'm here to tell y'all,

1000
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:33.559
this was not that. You know. She whispered to her

1001
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.280
that she was dying. And right now, if you're like Kelly,

1002
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:37.679
I'm just I'm not on board with you right now.

1003
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.559
I want to add something that you don't know yet.

1004
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:41.960
How would you feel in this moment if I told

1005
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.119
you that Rebecca liked Satanism and had expressed this.

1006
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:46.840
In the past.

1007
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.639
Matter of fact, she liked all things dark. I did

1008
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.800
tell you a bit about that. She may be talking

1009
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.880
to the police as though she's a victim. But something

1010
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:01.119
old Kelly Joe looked up called Facebook history. It doesn't lie.

1011
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:05.199
Rebecca isn't smart enough to make a long term plan.

1012
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:08.000
So I went and found her old Facebook pages and

1013
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:11.320
you can too, by the way, and the photos are

1014
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:14.840
telling and she's not just this innocent young girl in

1015
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:15.559
her twenties.

1016
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:17.679
Trust trust me.

1017
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:19.880
And I'm going to put some of these picks on

1018
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:21.400
Patreon too. If you don't want to go do all that,

1019
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.280
you can go look and I want you to make

1020
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:27.239
your own opinion on these photos. But you're not seeing

1021
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.880
some victim here you go. I want you to look

1022
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:35.360
at them. You tell me what you think. So Sean

1023
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:39.000
then left for work shortly after dumping that ashtray, and

1024
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.719
Rebecca remained with Jennifer on the floor. Did she call

1025
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.639
for help, did she go get a neighbor. Did she

1026
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:48.079
do anything And the answer is no. She said, she

1027
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:50.280
just kept checking on her pulse. But she was dead

1028
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.239
and Rebecca stayed in the room with her all day,

1029
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:55.960
laying dead on the ground. Oh girl who worked as

1030
00:57:55.960 --> 00:58:00.639
a CNA realizes someone's die and does.

1031
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:01.360
Not go get help.

1032
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.599
When Sean got back that night from work, the two

1033
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:07.719
of them cleaned up the rest of the blood together

1034
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.360
that was everywhere. They poured bleach on Jennifer. They bleached

1035
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.840
down her body before they rolled her in a shower

1036
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:18.039
curtain naked, and they wrapped her in garbage bags and

1037
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:21.840
then together they carried her body downstairs to place it

1038
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.480
in the freezer. Now what freezer, you ask, I'm sure

1039
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:26.760
you're like, wait a minute, She's not going to fit

1040
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:30.679
in their freezer in the kitchen. And it's also odd

1041
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.920
that someone with no money would have a random, extra

1042
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.440
brand new freezer, right. Funny that we should bring that up,

1043
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.719
because it just so happened that he had ordered one

1044
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:47.000
a short while before Jennifer was killed. They did a check.

1045
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:49.239
Police had a check of renaissenter records, and they found

1046
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:52.280
that the deep freezer was purchased in December of twenty

1047
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.840
nineteen early December of twenty nineteen, and it was delivered

1048
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:01.199
that day that he ordered it, and he instructed them

1049
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:05.239
just to leave it on the porch. This is premeditation, y'all.

1050
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.800
He ordered that thing. This wasn't a spur of the

1051
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:11.840
moment that he just happened to get her. He already

1052
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:14.920
had the freezer before she was even dead. But this

1053
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:17.280
freezer wasn't built for a human body, right, I mean,

1054
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:19.599
that's not what they're built for. And Jennifer didn't fit

1055
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:22.519
very well. So, according to their own accounts, Sean was

1056
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.239
in the front of Jennifer's body, Rebecca was behind her body,

1057
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:27.400
and they were pushing with all their force to fit

1058
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.360
her in this freezer, and Rebecca commented that there was

1059
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.320
snapping noises, you could hear breaking intendons popping as they

1060
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:36.960
were shoving her in. And Rebecca was really freaked out

1061
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.559
at one point because blood even squirted back out and

1062
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:41.639
shot out and sprayed her, and she didn't like it.

1063
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:47.559
She never says the words freaked me out at any

1064
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:51.519
other point when she was retelling the atrocities committed upon

1065
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.920
Jennifer while being abused, and I found that convenient. The

1066
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:57.719
only time she was freaked out was when the blood

1067
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.599
squirted on her as they crammed her body into a freezer.

1068
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.199
And once they were able to break and bend her

1069
01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:06.119
into the freezer, they shut the door and then they

1070
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:08.800
turned it and faced it towards the stairwell in the

1071
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:13.239
apartment so it couldn't be easily opened. Well weeks later,

1072
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:16.559
Sean became paranoid about Jennifer's body being in there, and

1073
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.800
he was afraid that someone was gonna find it. So

1074
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:24.159
what did they do, y'all? They pulled her out of

1075
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.840
the freezer, frozen, Then they laid her down, carried the

1076
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.559
freezer upstairs into their closet, where the detectives eventually found it.

1077
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:35.679
And then they went and got her frozen body, carried

1078
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.199
it upstairs and stuffed it back in the same position

1079
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:40.840
she had been removed, popped it right back and frozen,

1080
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:46.079
still naked, stripped of all of her dignity, and then

1081
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:48.360
ran in an extension kill.

1082
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:48.880
They did it with.

1083
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.519
They did it with the same thought process that when

1084
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.119
I come home from the grocery store, I put the

1085
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.360
meat in the freezer, like not even like they're just

1086
01:00:57.400 --> 01:00:59.599
saying this, like it's not a whole human being that

1087
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:01.840
they'd done this too. He then ran an extension court

1088
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.039
into the closet, and then he placed new locks on

1089
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.039
the doors to keep anyone curious from getting into it.

1090
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:11.360
And her body remained in that home for eight months, frozen,

1091
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:17.079
but she wouldn't stay sealed up. And most stories at

1092
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:20.320
this point have assailants getting rid of bodies, but not Sean.

1093
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:21.480
Are you already?

1094
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:27.000
As if this couldn't get any more horrific, Sean, during

1095
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:32.559
that eight months, continued to use and abuse her frozen

1096
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:40.000
dead corpse. Rebecca recounted a few instances I thought i'd

1097
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:42.320
share with you, like the fact that she was taking

1098
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:44.320
a shower, and she said she came into the bedroom

1099
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:47.199
to find him masturbating, and he had something in his hand,

1100
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:49.559
and when she got closer, he opened his hand and

1101
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:53.159
inside of it was her nose. Remember how her nose

1102
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:56.079
was missing. He had Jennifer's nose as well as what

1103
01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:00.559
Rebecca referred to as her intimate areas in his hands,

1104
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:04.760
and he was masturbating to her intimate parts and her

1105
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:05.880
nose in his hand.

1106
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:07.360
And she looked up at the.

1107
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.920
Freezer, and the freezer door was open while he was

1108
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:11.920
doing this, had the parts in his hand, and he

1109
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:16.320
had the garbage bag ripped open down like from her

1110
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:20.800
head down to her breasts, and he was jacking off

1111
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:25.280
to a nose and female parts and or you know,

1112
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:29.320
in his hand while looking at her dead face and breasts.

1113
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:32.639
At that point, Rebecca said she got a little panicked,

1114
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:35.599
and that's when she ran downstairs.

1115
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:37.000
And I'm gonna call bullshit here.

1116
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:40.480
You slept six feet or less away from a dead

1117
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:43.719
woman's body in a freezer, and that wasn't an issue,

1118
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.880
But somehow this was too much. For eight months, you

1119
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.159
slept with a dead woman right next to you, and

1120
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.679
but this was too much. Nafam, I'm not buying that.

1121
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:57.440
Rebecca also, by the way, was uh you know, was

1122
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:01.519
sending tons of sexual TETs between she and Sean and

1123
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:04.199
photos of her body while he was at work during

1124
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:06.599
this time and Jennifer was in the freezer. So cry

1125
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:09.559
me a fucking river on your horrors, you supposedly felt.

1126
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:13.840
I don't believe you, but either way, Sean then called

1127
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.800
her back into the room once. She says she ran

1128
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:20.960
out seeing him masturbating, and when she came back in

1129
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.880
the room, he was so aroused by her distress that

1130
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:31.119
she performed oral sex on him, and Rebecca then said,

1131
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:33.039
but when he would get mad at me, he would

1132
01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.679
try to shove parts of Jennifer's body in my mouth.

1133
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:42.239
So while this is even an incredible thing to list, okay,

1134
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:47.559
I wrote down every single injury listed by the medical

1135
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:51.320
examiner in Jennifer's autopsy, and I'm gonna tell you every

1136
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:54.519
single one of them. I'm not gonna sum it up

1137
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:57.599
because this was Jennifer's reality. And if you're watching me

1138
01:03:57.679 --> 01:03:59.159
right now, podcast, I want you to look at this

1139
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:02.280
red on my note. Can y'll see that two pages

1140
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:06.800
of typed twelve point font. They had to do a

1141
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.679
team approach for her autopsy because there was so much

1142
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.440
damage to her body.

1143
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:13.840
To start with.

1144
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:17.320
They said there were more injuries than they could accurately count.

1145
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.000
She was frozen solid and they had to thaw her

1146
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.679
for days because of how solid she was, and if

1147
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.559
they were to rush her thawing, then her tissues would

1148
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:30.119
have deteriorated more rapidly. They didn't have a time of

1149
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.039
death possible, but clearly she had been dead for a

1150
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:35.639
long time because she was dead long enough and in

1151
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:39.239
the freezer long enough to be frozen completely solid. She

1152
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:43.039
didn't decompose, so they knew she had been frozen rather

1153
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:46.639
quickly after death. Plus it had been before rigamortis had

1154
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:48.280
set in, or they wouldn't have been able to bend

1155
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:50.440
her and crack her the way they did. As they

1156
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:56.000
pushed her into the freezer. Heroin when it metabolizes. Could

1157
01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:59.800
remember Jennifer was a heroin addict. Heroin metabolizes into more

1158
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:03.199
f and so they checked her bile in her stomach

1159
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:07.480
and that came back positive just for morphine, with no

1160
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:10.679
other components. So that's why they don't believe she was

1161
01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:15.400
actually high on heroin. They believe was literal morphine that

1162
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.440
she had been given, and she had such a high

1163
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:22.039
tolerance that she was likely able to function with that

1164
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:24.519
much in her system. The doctor even said that if

1165
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:26.679
the doctor herself had taken that, it would have killed

1166
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:29.199
her almost instantly, but because she was such a high tolerance,

1167
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:31.679
because of her addiction, she was probably still able to

1168
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:35.159
somewhat function or to function with it in her system. Now,

1169
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.760
lividity had set in in her bottom and in her feet,

1170
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.559
so it was like she was seated in the fetal

1171
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:47.000
position when her blood started pooling. Many of her wounds

1172
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:49.960
they found to be post mortem or after death. She

1173
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:54.360
had blunt force trauma and slicing trauma, very large cutting

1174
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.280
cuttings on the face area on the right side of

1175
01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:59.920
the face. She had sharp forced cuttings on her neck.

1176
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:02.639
There was blunt force trauma on the front of her

1177
01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:05.599
head and on the back of her head. Her left

1178
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:09.639
ear was cut and it was missing chunks. The nose

1179
01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:14.559
was missing and it had very precise cuts with freezer

1180
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.960
burn that were inside of the cut.

1181
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:20.000
And so she said.

1182
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:23.280
That the freezer burn was because of the the slice

1183
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.960
off and then not being you know, covered and skin.

1184
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:28.599
You know, the meat gets freezer burn.

1185
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:31.800
There was a stabbing wound in the center of her

1186
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:36.119
throat through the muscle and into the trachea. Her throat

1187
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:39.800
was slit. There was a slice injury and the left

1188
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:43.880
upper back and another a bit lower in the midline,

1189
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:46.960
as well as another one in her buttocks area. Her

1190
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:51.079
left arm had a large had large cutouts on them,

1191
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:54.639
and there was large pieces of missing skin and all

1192
01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:57.239
of those big missing chunks. There was freezer burn in

1193
01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:59.960
the middle of the wounds on the forearm. There were

1194
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.840
three parallel slices in her arm. On the inside of

1195
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:07.000
her wrist, and there was also three cuts on the

1196
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:11.079
back of her hand. There were cuts on the inside

1197
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.519
of the elbow of the left arm. Her right arm

1198
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:18.199
had two wounds towards the top of it as well

1199
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:21.599
as a slice, and she had a tattoo on her

1200
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:25.840
right shoulder and that tattoo was almost completely cut off.

1201
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:29.119
And the medical examiner said that when Sean was trying

1202
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.440
to pull her out of the freezer to hide her

1203
01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:34.880
under the bed, he had to use a knife and

1204
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:38.239
cut her out of the freezer because her skin had

1205
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:40.800
stuck to the side of the freezer. And they know

1206
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:45.800
that because the tattoo remnant was found stuck to the

1207
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:47.920
side of the freezer, even though he had tried to

1208
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.760
clean it up. They found her skin with tattoo ink

1209
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:54.039
still on the side of the freezer. Her sternum had

1210
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:57.519
multiple slicing cuts, and she said that those looked mostly

1211
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.360
post mortem or after death. She was stuck leaning to

1212
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:03.960
the left side of the freezer, so there was some

1213
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:07.280
injury to her arm whenever she was removed. There was

1214
01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:10.679
a teardrop cut in her chest, which was done post mortem.

1215
01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:15.239
Her left breast had a patterned injury, and she was

1216
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:18.680
talking about Jennifer's nipple and the areola, and she said

1217
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:21.239
there was multiple cutouts and it was like a pinwheel

1218
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:26.119
pattern cut out on purpose, and this was believed to

1219
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.920
at least partially be post mortem. Her breast tissue was

1220
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:34.479
cut up haphazardly. Her right breast had cuts on it

1221
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.479
as well, with no particular pattern, just these clusters of

1222
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:41.560
cuts in her breast. The midline of her upper abdomen

1223
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.399
gastric region had deep penetrating wounds, like she had been

1224
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.840
stabbed in her gut. There were deep slicing injuries in

1225
01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:53.319
the left abdomen and these were roughly eight inches. There

1226
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:56.479
was another deep slice a bit lower and it was

1227
01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:00.239
also eight inches. The left side of her abdomen had

1228
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:02.439
a cut in it and there was a skin flap

1229
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:06.880
that was still attached. Her belly button had a cut

1230
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:10.560
over it. Her hip area had a cluster of cuts

1231
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:14.239
into it. Her left hand had been cut through and through,

1232
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:19.520
her forearm had Her forearm and her hands had defensive

1233
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:23.239
injuries from her fighting him off. There were five ligature

1234
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:27.920
marks about a quarter inch wide, and the medical examiner

1235
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:31.119
said that these had been regularly applied tight enough to

1236
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:33.800
the skin that it actually cut into her skin, like

1237
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:36.159
she was strangled so hard the shoelaces were cutting into

1238
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:39.159
her skin. This was done when she was absolutely alive,

1239
01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:43.760
and they know this because there was hemorrhaging underneath the skin.

1240
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:46.960
A blunt object had hit her in the head and

1241
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.800
had split the skin. It was on her left forehead.

1242
01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:54.039
She had large bruises that went all the way to

1243
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:58.159
the bone. She had blunt force trauma and contusions to

1244
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:02.479
her chin, her right side of her face and the

1245
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:06.119
left side as well, and they were almost symmetrical like

1246
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:08.079
she was beat about the head, symmetric, you know, on

1247
01:10:08.119 --> 01:10:11.560
both sides. The back of her head close to the

1248
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:15.359
midline had a laceration from a blunt force trauma. There

1249
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:17.640
was bruising all over the back of her head. She

1250
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:20.920
had an abrasion over the top of her buttocks. There

1251
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:23.000
was a pattern of bruising on the left arm that

1252
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:27.359
showed multiple strikes. Her left upper arm had a bruise

1253
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:29.720
and blunt force trauma in the shape of the capitol

1254
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:36.079
letter E. Her inner left wrist had blunt force trauma.

1255
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:39.960
Her inner upper left thigh had blunt force trauma as

1256
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:43.640
well as one that matched on the right side. So

1257
01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:47.039
she had matching traumas on both of her upper thighs.

1258
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:50.800
Her right side knee had bruising, and she had the

1259
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:55.319
letter s that had been cut into her buttocks. And

1260
01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:58.439
they actually found a photo of this on Sean's camera,

1261
01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:02.000
so he was taking photographs of work. And the ultimate

1262
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.720
cause of death was ligature strangulation.

1263
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:06.199
Y'all.

1264
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:09.199
That took me minutes as fast as I was reading

1265
01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:11.479
to tell you all of the injuries this woman suffered.

1266
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:13.520
And this was not slow.

1267
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.479
It is clear, it's beyond clear that this was not

1268
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:22.760
an accident, that this was absolute torture, This was abuse,

1269
01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:26.960
and this was rape. That refrigerator had been cleaned by

1270
01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:30.119
Sean after he removed the bite the body, and I

1271
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:32.680
believe that was likely after that talk with Colt and

1272
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:34.479
with the police officers whenever they were like, hey, do

1273
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:37.079
you have a body in your fridge, because it was

1274
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:40.119
the next day the body was found, but he didn't

1275
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:45.000
get at all that skin was left, those tattoos that

1276
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:46.960
remained on the side of the freezer. And I think

1277
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:49.479
that this is this is I don't know what the

1278
01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:53.520
word is, almost I guess morbidly poetic. But those were

1279
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:58.840
her children's names, those tattoos. She had her children's names

1280
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:02.520
on her body, and that tattooed skin remained stuck to

1281
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:06.039
those freezer walls. You couldn't take this woman away from

1282
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:08.319
her children, and that helped to prove she was there.

1283
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:12.640
With the state, the statements given by Rebecca and the

1284
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:17.279
mountain of evidence against them. Rebecca Dishman and Sean Finegan

1285
01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.920
were both arrested for Jennifer's murder. But it doesn't quite

1286
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.479
end there for me, because there's something else you need

1287
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:25.359
to know. I could cut it there, but I refuse.

1288
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:29.359
You have to know all of this. Rebecca Dishman, she

1289
01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:34.159
pled guilty separately from Seawan to Jennifer's murder, and she

1290
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:38.720
agreed to testify against him in exchange for receiving life

1291
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:43.359
in prison. All right, Shawn was charged with first degree murder,

1292
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:47.319
aggravated rape, aggravated kidnapping, abuse of a corpse, and tampering

1293
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:52.479
with evidence. Now, like I said, all of this went

1294
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:54.840
to trial last week. But guess what I found out?

1295
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:59.359
There was more to this than just these two murdering Jennifer.

1296
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:00.800
Y'all.

1297
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:08.439
They also preyed upon children together. Yes, I told you,

1298
01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:13.479
Rebecca's no victim here. She's a dumbass, but she is

1299
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:17.039
not a victim. Do you know that Rebecca already pled

1300
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:21.800
to two counts of child rape on September fifth, twenty

1301
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:26.199
twenty three, and Sean Finnigan was also separately arrested and

1302
01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:29.399
accused of sexual abuse of a child three years of

1303
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:32.279
age or younger. And this allegedly occurred in May of

1304
01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:35.279
twenty twenty And from what I've read and gathered, this

1305
01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:40.520
allegedly involves children that they babysat. At some point, I

1306
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:42.520
do plan to look into this. I'm not sure because

1307
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:44.800
their miners and the type of case this is what

1308
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:46.880
I'll be able to find. I may be limited, but

1309
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:48.960
trust I'm gonna go look into this. But they were

1310
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:54.760
raping children together. Rebecca Dishmand is not a victim. They

1311
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:59.119
worked together, and Rebecca's plea agreement stipulated that she would

1312
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:03.479
receive sentences of life in prison plus an additional fifty years.

1313
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:06.840
So she's no hero here testifying against him. That was

1314
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:11.199
for self preservation. And now that she pled already and

1315
01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:13.560
she was going to testify against him, do you know

1316
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.239
what she did spending her time in prison while she

1317
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:18.960
was waiting to testify against him. I'm glad that you asked,

1318
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.039
because I'm going to tell you. First of all, she

1319
01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:24.439
started a relationship with a correctional officer and then got

1320
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:26.199
mad at him when she found out that he was

1321
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:27.520
messing with other inmates.

1322
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:31.000
So what did she do? She turned on the correctional officer.

1323
01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:32.760
Who was wrong. I'm not saying that he wasn't, but

1324
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:35.880
who was wrong? She turned on him for inappropriate She

1325
01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:39.159
turned him in for inappropriate behavior, but only when she

1326
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:41.600
found out that he was messing around with those other inmates,

1327
01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:44.399
And she played the victim in that case too. Do

1328
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:47.920
you see a pattern of behavior here? Participate until it

1329
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.880
might not go your way, and then you're a victim?

1330
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:53.920
I see a pattern here. She also went and threatened

1331
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:57.640
other inmates that if they talked to her correctional officer

1332
01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:00.520
that she would kill them. Does this sound like a

1333
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:04.239
victim to you? She also wrote letters to Sean after

1334
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:08.319
the arrest. After they were both arrested, she wrote letters

1335
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:12.359
to him professing her continued love for him and still

1336
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.359
professes her love for him, and said things like this,

1337
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:17.359
this is a direct quote. I want to be yours

1338
01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:18.279
and only yours.

1339
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:18.880
PS.

1340
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:22.159
I love you, daddy. Does that sound like a victim

1341
01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:26.399
to you. No. There was also another plan that came

1342
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:29.199
to light during this Do you know that they planned

1343
01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:33.000
together to kidnap one of his own friend's daughters. This

1344
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:35.600
was a teenager. They were going to kidnap this teenager

1345
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:40.720
from her home his friend's daughter. Sean had this plan

1346
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:42.800
with Rebecca. She was going to lay in the back

1347
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.600
seat so that when he grabbed this teenage girl and

1348
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:48.359
threw her in the car, Rebecca would hold her down

1349
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:50.840
and they would speed away with her. But by the

1350
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.079
grace of God, it didn't work out because when they

1351
01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:56.520
pulled up, another man walked out of the home, and

1352
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.319
so they lost their chance to grab the girl. There

1353
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:04.079
are demons that are walking amongst us, y'all. If you

1354
01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:08.199
ever wondered is evil real? What more do you need

1355
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:12.119
to hear? I'm happy to let you know though, that

1356
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:16.199
last week, at eleven fifteen am on Wednesday, August twenty first,

1357
01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:19.720
twenty twenty four, Sean Finnegan was found guilty and sentenced

1358
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:24.319
to death for criminally negligent homicide, first degree felony murder

1359
01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:27.800
during the perpetration of an aggravated rape, abuse of a corpse,

1360
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:34.920
and conspiracy to commit aggravated rape, Jennifer mattered. She mattered

1361
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:37.319
to me, and she mattered to her family, and she

1362
01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:37.960
still does.

1363
01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:40.520
These two do.

1364
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:42.680
Not deserve to see the light of day. And y'all

1365
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:44.520
know I'm all about live life and love, but in

1366
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:47.079
instances like this, I'm also happy with low daim and

1367
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:47.399
fire