July 26, 2024

Home Invasion Part 2

Home Invasion Part 2

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In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ completes the deep dive into a shocking true crime case involving a brutal home invasion that resulted in the murder of Jack Jones. Linda Jones, the wife, calls 911 after the assailants beat Jack to death and duct-taped her. Detectives investigate the crime scene, finding blood spatter, duct tape, and a suspicious maroon Nissan van spotted leaving the scene.

They follow leads, including a client of Linda's CPA firm, Donald Bradley, who owns a similar van. However, they hit dead ends due to lack of evidence. Months later, Donald is in a car accident involving his employee, Brian McWhite, whose fingerprints match those on the duct tape.

Brian refuses to cooperate, but his younger brother, Patrick, reveals crucial details about the murder, hinting at a twist in the case.

Timestamps
06:47 Detectives Connecting the Dots
10:58 Donald's Phone Calls and Tax Papers
17:26 The Van and Detailed Cleanings
23:21 Patrick's Confession Begins
28:31 Shocking Events in Jack's Home
30:44 Patrick Searches for Valuables
31:34 Linda's Response
36:23 Deeper Than Infidelity
40:23 Money, Marriage, and Murder
45:43 Caught by the Gate
51:09 Unraveling Daily Habits
57:09 Financial Motives Revealed
1:00:44 Multiple Solicitations for Murder
1:03:36 Tragic End by a Devious Plan

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable.

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Warning.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended,

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then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all,

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it's kJ here. I'm back for another episode of Unspeakable?

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What are you doing?

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What are you doing?

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I have so many people have to shout out, and

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I promise I'm gonna get to you as quickly as

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I can today. I'm gonna start right here in my

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backyard in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I've got missus, Ashley Womag. Hey, Ashley,

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thank you so much for joining and for supporting me.

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It means so very much to me. And hey, maybe

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you know another Baton Rouge, Louisianaan Bethany Gonzalez. Hi, Bethany,

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Do y'all know each other? Are y'all friends, because right,

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it's not that big in Batony.

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I'm just kidding.

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I'm so, so so thankful for every single one of

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it makes my heart so happy. That includes in Tickfall, Louisiana.

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Casey do friend, how are you?

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Casey?

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Hi?

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Casey.

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I'm so thankful for you, as well as Miss Cappy

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Cappy, I believe that you are an attorney for an

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agency that is very close to my heart, and you're

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fighting the good.

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I'm pretty sure it's to you.

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Thank you for believing in me and for supporting me

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as much as I believe in support you.

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I've never heard of it, but Navasota, Texas, Miss Lisa Towery,

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Hey girl, all the way out there in Texas, as

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well as Abilene. Now do know Abilene? Abilene, Texas? Brianna

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Perez or is it Brianna Girl? I know people say different,

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So I'm gonna say hey to Brianna Perez and I'm

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gonna say hey to Brianna Perez, so I get you

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either way. So so thankful for the ladies in the house.

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Y'all, we have our very own Gypsy Rose Gypsy Everett

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our Gypsy, the Gypsy of Unspeakable. So thank you for

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wonderful messages that y'all continue to send me.

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Now we got to jump into this episode.

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I promised you a part two and you're getting it,

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and you're getting it the same week as part one.

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and give it a listen. So we're gonna pick right

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back up where we left off last episode, where the

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mc white brothers were in a whole lot of doodo

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and little brother Patrick was starting to spill the murder beans,

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and I left you off kind of going, what the

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heck would this little brother have to do with this murder?

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Well, I'll get to that in a second.

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But something something else was taking place that was making

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another woman who I've already spoken to you about feel

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quite uneasy about a conversation that she and Linda had

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just days before Jack's murder. And the woman knew her

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very well because it was that lifelong friend Janice. And

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Janie had walked into the police station to say, I

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feel really bad about having to come in and say this,

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and I feel horrible for thinking, maybe, you know, I

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might be telling on my best friend, but you know,

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the right thing is the right thing, and so she said, look,

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you know, considering Jack is dead, I just want to

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tell you about this conversation, because Linda and I were

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speaking and she told me on the phone how.

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Angry she was at Jack, and that.

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She was so angry that she felt like she could

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just get a gun and shoot him, you know, And so.

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Well, I'm glad that you asked, and I bet you

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probably already some of y'all could have seen this coming.

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But Linda told Janice, I, you know, don't want to

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remain fat and forty and alone. And so Janna said, well,

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why would you feel alone? And that's when Linda opened

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up about some marital struggles they were having and that

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they were kind of in.

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A rut, so to speak.

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Linda also mentioned that she had recently fussed at Jack for,

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you know, spending way too much time with that younger girl,

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Carrie that had moved into their home, and even their daughter, Jill,

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felt like their relationship was just a little too cozy. Well,

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Jack never even skipped a beat whenever he responded to

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that accusation from his wife, and he flat out said, yep,

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it's true, me and Carrie are having an affair, and

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we're having an affair in our house.

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So here was Linda heartbroken, shocked.

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And raged, and immediately went after Carrie and said, you

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can pack your shit and get out of my house,

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and you can get out of my house now, And

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any woman worth her salt would do the same thing.

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She also wanted, though, to repair her marriage. She wanted

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it to get right back to where they were, maybe

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improve it. And she's looking at Jack thinking, surely this

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is just a midlife crisis. This has got to be

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just a fleeing. I mean, she's what eighteen years old,

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Jack's fifty almost.

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This is crazy. What do they have in common? When

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we all know what they have in common.

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But detectives were starting to see a pretty clear picture here,

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and y'all, even if Linda was the one being wronged,

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it still seemed like a pretty big motive.

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Your husband is dead, okay.

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So police looked into the records to see had there

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been any calls from the home to nine one one recently,

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maybe looking for a domestic violence or something of that nature,

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where maybe Linda, you know, and he had been in

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a struggle or something like that, But they didn't find it.

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What they did find, though, were some recent reports, and

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that included two burglaries and a sexual assault of Linda,

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So looking further into these claims, and after being questioned,

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Linda opened up to the police and was like, look,

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I think that Carrie is behind all of this. I

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think she's setting us up at our home and I

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think she's behind this sexual assault. So that kind of

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seemed like a stretch maybe, But detectives also took note

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that when Linda was telling them all of this about Carrie,

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she was incredibly angry, like spitting nails as we say.

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She was just so angry when she was telling the story.

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And surely you would be angry too if your husband

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was cheating, you know, if almost thirty years was cheating

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with a teenager.

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But the anger level.

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Was just of note that the detectives were like, wow,

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this is a whole lot of anger behind the story.

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So detectives did what they should and they jumped right

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in their car and they went to speak to Carrie,

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and she now had something to say.

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She said, you know, I love Jack.

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And I had seen him earlier in the night before

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he was killed, and Jack told Carrie, look, I gotta go.

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I've got to leave the the you know, I gotta leave.

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I've got to go home because Janis called and said

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I needed to be home by seven point thirty or

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she was going to kill herself. So again a picture's

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being painted, all the paints on the paint brush, but

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it's just got to be put in the right order

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on the canvas. And they've got to make some links

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if they really think that Janis was behind Jack's murder.

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So was it possible that maybe Janis made this call

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to ensure that Jack was home in time for a

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planned ambush. That is where police stood when they were

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trying to figure things out. So Detective waw and Lieutenant

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Redmond went to Donald Bradley's home at eight thirty in

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the morning with a warrant because they wanted to go

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seize Donald Bradley's van. Remember that van was the one

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that the neighbor the night of the ambush said, I

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saw this maroon van take off. And they really felt

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like Donald Bradley might be the link there. So Donald

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lived in a gated community called Loch Ring, and Waugh

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did not call before. He didn't call Donald before he

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showed up and went to the house. He didn't want

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him to have any preparation or anything like that. He

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just showed up and he got there so early that

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he actually found the family seated and having breakfast together.

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Donald was there, his wife Valerie was there, and then

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they had been married for a while.

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They'd been married for.

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I think two years, they had been married since nineteen

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ninety four, but it was them, and then it was

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their combination of children. He had three, she had one,

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and together they had won. And something that I found

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really interesting about the whole conversation between Donald and the

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detective was that Donald recorded the conversation. Why would you

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need to record a conversation. The only conclusion I can

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come to is that you want to be able to

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remember what you said because the truth doesn't change. Something

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my dad told me when I was younger, and I

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never forgot it was that if you always tell the truth,

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you never have to remember what you said. Now, on

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the other side, maybe he recorded it because he wanted

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to have protections of his own, like I don't want

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to be accused of saying something I didn't say, and

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so he recorded the conversation so that, you know, he

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could have proof of what was said. But WHA began

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asking routine questions such as date of birth, phone number,

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and you know, just basic little things about himself. And

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he did ask Donald about his cell phones and did

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he have any cell phones? And Donald said, yes, I

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have two phones. One of them is used by my foreman.

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His name is Michael Clark, and then he had another

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flip phone, which was the one that he used himself,

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you know, throughout the day. So in further discussion, Donald admitted, yeah,

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I do know Linda Jones. She's been doing my taxes

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for several years. And so they asked, okay, well when's

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the last time you spoke to Linda Jones And he said, oh,

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probably about three weeks earlier. So there had been three

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phone calls made from Donald's phone to Linda's phone the

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night of the murder. The times of those phone calls,

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and this is the night of the murder was seven

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thirty five PM, eight oh six and eight seventeen p

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So detectives knew this. They wanted to know a little

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bit about how many times he may have called her,

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and Donald was kind of confused and said, well, I

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don't know.

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He got up and he got.

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His calendar that he kept, and the calendar on November sixth,

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the day before the murder, said Camelot Party by the sea.

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So Donald got up and got his calendar, and on

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November sixth, the night before the murder, it was notated

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that he was supposed to be at a camelot party

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by the sea, and that in and of itself wasn't

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a big deal, But the point was that he documented

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what he did or where he planned to be. So

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here detectives were talking to a man that they really

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believed was involved, and he kept meticulous records in the

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calendar of his whereabouts. So that's kind of a cool

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thing because you can lock him in or try to

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lock him in on his own records, on his own notes.

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It was very interesting too that on the date of

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November seventh, the date that Jack was killed, there was

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nothing officially planned on the calendar. Nothing was written. It

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was blank. And that's what we would call a clue

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that nothing big event wise was available for Donald to

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use as an alibi. So detectives doubled down, and so

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they wanted specific answers for the phone calls, because.

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It's just too convenient.

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You made three phone calls right before this woman's husband

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was murdered. Thinking for a moment, Donald gathered his thoughts

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and he said that, okay, I may if I called her.

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I can recall that I was supposed to go pick

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up my tax papers from her, and they were supposed

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to be underneath the doormat at her office, so you know,

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after work, I do recall that I was supposed to

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go get some tax papers. I'm not sure which day

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it was, it must have been that day, and I

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called and the taxpapers weren't where they were supposed to be.

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She didn't answer.

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I had to call her again, and then she said

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she had met stuff the papers and that she would

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have to fix them.

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And then I'd have to come get them another time.

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So where were the papers then?

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Well, he didn't have them, but it's not what it

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looks like. She just hadn't finished him up yet, and

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she was going to leave them again in the same

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spot he knows now where she was supposed to leave

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them the first time. He says, I didn't figure this

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out though, until I called her, because you know, we

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had to do the back and forth because she didn't answer.

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And then after all of that, he said, well that's

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after that, I went and I ran Errand's. So he

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was adamant that if that was the night of the

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phone calls. It was about the tax papers. And it

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made sense, y'all, because he was a tax client. He

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also remembered that after he got home that he had

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loaned his phone to his sister. His sister's name was Cynthia,

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and he had loaned it to her because she had

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plans to go to Middelburg Midburg, Florida area, and you know,

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he didn't want her to be without a phone. Now,

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I did some research about why was she without a

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phone all of a sudden this one day. But really

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Cynthia's backed this up because she was using a phone

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from her employer, but the phone had gotten cut off

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because the bill wasn't paid. So if what Donald was

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saying and what Cynthia was saying were the truth, then

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it absolutely makes sense that.

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He would loan her the phone.

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He had made it home and he was able to

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share it with her, and then when she returned home,

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she was returning the phone to him. He also said, Look,

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not only that, he said that he watched a TV

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show that night, and you know, they could vouch that

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there was a TV show on. So once Donald seemed

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to really spill everything he possibly could about the evening

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detective decided to throw him a bone.

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They said, look, we know that Linda.

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Is lying about her level of involvement in her her

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husband's death, and we just want you to know Donald

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that she is knee deep in the middle of something

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that is very problematic and we would really hate for

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someone who may not be directly involved get drug into

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this with her. And so Donald was kind of curious, like,

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what exactly are you trying to say to me, and

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the detective said, look, we got a few theories about

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what may have happened to Jack. We feel like maybe

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someone went by the home to kind of quote unquote

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teach him a lesson since he was cheating on his wife,

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and it got out of hand, and then maybe Linda

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finished him off. You know, maybe that maybe the person

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who who was just going to teach him the lesson

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didn't kill him, you know, just kind of throw him

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in a bone, trying to give him something to latch onto.

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And you might also be interested to know that.

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At this point, what Donald didn't know was that the

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detectives had done their research on Donald and said, I

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mean not said, but found out that he had a

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few domestic battery offenses in his record from his past.

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So obviously this doesn't mean that he went and he

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killed somebody, but it sure does show that he doesn't

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hold back when he gets angry, and he has a

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propensity to violence if you know, he feels the need.

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The detective was.

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Also very clear with him, Look, we think that your

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van was also somehow involved in this murder, and that

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you were involved in some way too. We're just not

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sure of what level of your involvement right now, so

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you really probably should take this seriously not blow us off.

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And he was very crystal clear and said, look, we're

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going to be looking into your van because we want

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to see if there's blood evidence in there, and you

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might want to speak now if you need to help yourself.

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And that's about the time Donald piped up and said, well,

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just so you know, my van's been detailed and clean

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probably four or five times since November the seventh.

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Stop. We're going to stop with that so real quick.

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My own husband is a construction man, Okay, has a

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work truck. Donald did lawn service and maintenance and care

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and stuff like that. So this was supposed to be

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kind of like I guess.

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A work van.

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There ain't no way in hell that a man in

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a work vehicle is gonna have that vehicle detailed six

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to seven times in this timeframe we're talking about. I

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don't believe that. I think it could have been cleaned

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really well once or twice with purpose, but to go

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just have it cleaned six or seven times. Now, Sorry,

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don't believe it. You can believe what you want. Maybe

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you do have a really meticulous man, or you are

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a very meticulous man, and you keep your vehicle that clean,

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but not a work vehicle. And if you do, congratulations,

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But I've not seen that. So something else that I

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found very interesting in the records that I was reading

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through was that right after Detective Wall finished up and

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he left Donald's home, Donald's sister, Cindy went over to

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Donald's house.

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And it wasn't just to go say hey. She went

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over there and listened to.

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The recorded conversation between Donald and detective Waw, why would

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your sister come over and need to listen to that conversation.

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Matter of fact, not only did his sister come over

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and listen to the recorded conversation, are you ready for this?

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Linda came and listened to the conversation. His wife Valerie

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listened to the conversation, his sister had listened to it.

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They all listened to this recorded conversation. So I don't

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know about you, but it kind of makes me go hmm. Linda, Valerie,

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and Sindy listened to it, and Donald recorded it. So

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I know you're dying by now to know exactly what

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did younger brother Patrick tell detectives. All right, let's dig in.

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Patrick told detectives. You know, look, I'm a high schooler

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and I'm gonna for the purposes of the story, I'm

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going to refer to him as little brother, even though

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technically it's important for you to know that Patrick is

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six foot two and he weighs two hundred and fifty pounds. Okay,

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to sit in the seven year old we're talking about.

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This is a big old fella. But it wasn't quite

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as simple as I kind of left off last episode

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when I said that he just showed up to the

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police station and he started spilling the beans. So I

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thought i'd kind of back up a little bit and

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explain in full detail kind of how it all went down.

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So detectives already knew that Patrick's older brother, Brian was

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directly involved in the murder because I remember they found the

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fingerprints on the tape. So in an effort to remove

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a possibly dangerous arrest situation, the sheriff got with one

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of his deputies, his name was Mark Cornett, and asked

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him specifically to go and affect the arrest on older

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brother Brian. And the reason that he asked this specific

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officer was because that the officer was a family friend

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of both the mcwhite brothers, but specifically their father, Eddie

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all Right, So he was such good friends with Eddie

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that over the years this officer had taken Patrick while

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he was growing up. He had taken him regularly fishing

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and hunting, into football games, and so he knew these people,

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and the sheriff thought it a good idea. Let me

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send in somebody I know, and it might lessen the

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chances of him, you know, fighting, or either of the

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brothers kind of doing something they shouldn't do. So he

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was also very familiar with where the boys lived, and

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so he went in and got brother Brian, arrested him

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and brought him to the police station. So he arrived

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about five am with Brian at the police station. So

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whenever his shift was over, which would have been actually

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just a couple hours later. I think he got off

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shift at eight am. A couple hours later, the officer

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went home and he went to bed. But just a

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little while after he went to sleep, the detective Waugh

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called him and said, hey, would you be willing to

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go get mister Eddie and bring him down to the

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station so we can talk. So he said sure, no problem.

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So the officer went and got father Eddie, brought him

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to the station and they did whatever they talked about

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for a while, and then the officer brought Dad Eddie

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back home. Within just a few minutes of him dropping

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Eddie off at the house, the phone rang and it

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was Eddie saying, look, I need you, I need you

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to come back. Patrick has something that he wants to

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talk to you about. But at that point Cornett was home,

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so he said, look, why don't you bring Patrick over

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come to my house and we can sit and we

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can talk about whatever it is you want to talk about.

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And I'm assuming Look, he had been working all night,

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he's tired, he was trying to go to bed. He's

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already been woken up and doing all this back and forth.

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Y'all just come to me. So once Officer Cornett had

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Eddie and Patrick come into the house, he very quickly

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realized that Patrick was admitting in this discussion that basically

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he took part in the murder.

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Of Jack Jones. So he immediately stopped.

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He read Patrick his rights, and then took Patrick down

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to the station advised, wah, look, this is what just happened.

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And once wa got Patrick into the station, that's when

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Patrick just opened up and gave a full confession word

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vomit style, just laid it all out for them. And

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I don't know about you, but I think a whole

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lot of Officer Cornette in this because he was put

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in a very difficult situation I'm sure for him as

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well as his friend Eddie multiple times.

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But he still did the right thing.

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He stopped, he read rights, he brought the kid down

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to the police station, and not only did he have

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to arrest one of his good friend's sons, now he

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had to do the exact same thing basically of the

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others and that had to be a tough thing to do.

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But again, right is right and wrong is wrong. I

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want to say too, I also think.

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A whole lot of their father, Eddie, because Eddie didn't

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try to hide or run or cover up for his

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younger son. He did the right thing. He said, no, son,

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if you know something good, bad or indifferent, you're gonna

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go and you're gonna talk. And that's exactly what happened.

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So that might that had to be so difficult, but

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it was the right thing to do.

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So I think a whole lot of their father.

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So what exactly did Patrick tell Officer Cornette and then

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you know detail to Detective waw Well, hold on to

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your butt crack, because either Patrick is the greatest storyteller

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of all time and is great at making up, you know,

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direct information and having it correct or he was there

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whenever Jack was murdered and it was all over.

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A couple of bucks. Okay.

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So he says that when he got home on November seventh,

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that his brother asked him, look, do you want to

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go make a little bit of money? Of course, a

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high school wants to go make a little bit of

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easy money. And that's when his brother said, just come

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with me. We're gonna go jump a guy. We're gonna

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rough him up a little bit, and if you do that,

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I'll give you a hundred bucks. Well, Patrick was happy

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to make a hundred bucks and then to get to

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beat somebody up with his brother. That sounded kind of interesting,

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so sure, why not. Shortly after that discussion, he said

469
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that Donald showed up to their house and said, y'all

470
00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:26.400
need to get some gloves, and you need to get

471
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.200
a stick or something to bring with you. And not

472
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.200
just a stick from the yard. He was actually pointing

473
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:35.119
at this what they call war stick and it was

474
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:38.680
in the corner of the mcwhite brother's house. They kept

475
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.119
it by their back door, so that's what he did.

476
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.160
The brother said, he grabbed the war stick and they

477
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.519
got some I think he said football gloves that he had,

478
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:50.279
and then they went and stopped together by a Walmart

479
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:53.680
and Donald went inside and he bought some masks. Hey,

480
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.559
that's what Linda said that there were multiple guys that

481
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:58.640
came in and they were in masks. So everything's kind

482
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:00.960
of lining up so far. And it was during that

483
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:05.200
trip that Patrick overheard Donald calling someone from his cell

484
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:08.039
phone and he was getting directions to a house. But

485
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:11.519
at one point Patrick said that he heard Donald referred

486
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.480
to the person on the phone as SIS. That's gonna matter,

487
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.799
Like SIS is in short for sister He also said

488
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:21.960
that Donald did make a couple of other phone calls,

489
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:27.640
and in those phone calls, he kept talking what kind

490
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.279
of felt like he was talking in code, like saying like, hey,

491
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:31.960
where are the tax documents? We got to go get

492
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.839
those tax documents. But to that kid, you know, it

493
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.119
just really seemed like he was talking in code, and

494
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.720
he thought that that code he was saying was basically

495
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.319
meaning going to this house that they were going to.

496
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:47.160
He also said that one of the calls was definitely

497
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:51.079
made to Michael Clark, and he remembered Michael Clark saying, yeah,

498
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:54.680
I'll come along too on this, you know, go beat

499
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.680
up this guy. So remember, Michael Clark is the guy

500
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:01.240
that was with Donald during that rage incident, and he

501
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:03.960
is the one whose fingerprints were found on the duct tape.

502
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.359
So all of this is making sense. So you know,

503
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:10.200
it doesn't seem like this kid is in there making

504
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:14.480
up everything on the fly. Everything is really seeming pretty accurate.

505
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:15.119
To the facts.

506
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.319
He also added that Donald made the last phone call,

507
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.839
the very last phone call before they beat up Jack,

508
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:28.160
as they pulled into the driveway of Jack's home. So

509
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.079
that matters if you're paying attention, because remember the detectives

510
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:34.480
knew that he had made those three phone calls, and

511
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.000
they were at seven thirty five, eight oh six, and

512
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.640
eight seventeen. Eight seventeen is just a few minutes, you know,

513
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.119
within thirty minutes of when Linda then made the nine

514
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.519
one one call. So if he made the last phone

515
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.160
call in the driveway, come on, use your brain, right,

516
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:56.519
was he talking to Linda? Well, Donald was really giving

517
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.000
all of the instructions about what was about to go

518
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.599
down to the guys that were with him, including that

519
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.920
the front door was supposed to be unlocked and open,

520
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.720
and that they needed to make sure to be careful

521
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.200
and avoid the floodlights that he pointed out. Donald told

522
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.440
the brothers, look, I'm going to be going in through

523
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.039
the garage. Y'all are going to go in through that

524
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.559
front door, and you know why are we separating? And

525
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.039
he said specifically he was going through that door because

526
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:23.880
he had to go retrieve a pistol off the kitchen counter,

527
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:27.200
which is what his daughter always Jack's daughter always said

528
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:28.680
was that Dad was known to come in and take

529
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:30.480
his gun off and put it on the island in

530
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.839
the kitchen counter. So when the brothers got into the home,

531
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.599
what happened was Patrick said, when they opened the doors

532
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.000
in kind of the fourier area, there was a big

533
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:43.920
mirror there. Well, because the mirror where it was located,

534
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.559
they were able to see the reflection of Jack in

535
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.039
the den watching TV. But at that exact same time

536
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.440
that they saw Jack. He said, Jack saw them in

537
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:57.200
the reflection, so he jumped up and Jack, in an

538
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.519
effort to defend his home, started going toward towards them

539
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.359
and was screaming, get out of my house, y'all, get

540
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.839
out of my house. And that's when brother Brian just

541
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:09.759
started punching him. So when detectives asked for a little

542
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:11.720
bit more information, okay, well, if that happened, what were

543
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.079
you doing? Patrick Patrick said that it genuinely startled him,

544
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.319
that he wasn't quite prepared for what was going down,

545
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.400
and he froze and he said, I had the war

546
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:24.480
stick in my hand and I just froze and watched

547
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:27.839
my brother start beating Jack. And then Donald came in

548
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:32.839
and he came from another direction, and that's whenever Donald

549
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.160
started beating the hell out of him, because he hit

550
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:37.319
Jack in the back of the head with the butt.

551
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:37.920
Of the gun.

552
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.400
And I'm assuming the gun that was taken off of

553
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.680
the island. He was able to detail that Jack fell

554
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:49.079
down and that Patrick and Donald grabbed him and then

555
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.799
drug him into the other room, which would have been

556
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.640
the den because the fight, if you remember from episode one,

557
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.559
they detectives even thought it started in the foyer and

558
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:00.799
that he must have been drug into the den because

559
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:05.599
of the blood spatter and the drag marks. So it

560
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.480
was there that they continued to punch and kick and

561
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:15.599
strike Zach and they being you know, the brothers. Once

562
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:20.000
Jack was injured pretty well, he said, Donald started hitting

563
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.880
him with the gun and he was kicking him and

564
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.440
just brutalizing with the gun. But Donald turned at one

565
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:30.759
point and he snatched the stick out of Patrick's hands

566
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.640
and he yelled at Patrick, you know, go back there

567
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.440
and take something, Go steal something, while they continued to

568
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.079
hammer down the blows on Jack. So Patrick did as

569
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.440
he was told and he went down the hallway and

570
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.319
started looking for things to take. He said that he

571
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.680
rifled through some drawers, which makes sense if you look

572
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.200
at the photos that I'm posting on Patreon. He said

573
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:51.960
he found like a purse that he dug through, but

574
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.720
he didn't really find anything of great value. So he

575
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:58.640
then went back into the den. He said that the

576
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:03.680
lady hadn't moved yet and was still standing there. She

577
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:08.119
was just standing there. Look, people react differently in these

578
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.079
type of situations. But if two guys are beating the

579
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.680
shit out of your husband and another one goes in

580
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:15.960
the back, you would think you would try to get away,

581
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.799
you would try to exit, or if you're crazy.

582
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.200
I mean, welcome to the club. I feel like I am.

583
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:22.519
Then you're gonna go in there and you're gonna try

584
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.079
to defend your husband. You're not just gonna stand there

585
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.240
and guess what. She wasn't taped up, he said, she

586
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.880
just stood there, and so further questioning, he said, well,

587
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:35.720
she did yell one time, stop, don't but it wasn't

588
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.880
really like forceful or anything. It's like she just said

589
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.279
it to I guess say it. And so Jack was

590
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.559
now down on the ground in the fetal position. They

591
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.200
were continuing to beat him, and while they were doing so,

592
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.240
he yelled at Patrick to shut her up. After she

593
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:55.079
did the little don't stop and so Patrick said that's

594
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.640
when he went over to her, and all he did

595
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.559
was grab her arm, and he said, she just to

596
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.720
the floor. He said, I didn't have to pull her down.

597
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:04.519
I didn't have to like fight or anything. He said,

598
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.759
I touched her and she flopped to the floor, which

599
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.799
was kind of bizarre. So Donald had some duct tape

600
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.000
which he threw to Patrick. So Patrick took that tape

601
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.200
and he taped her mouth shut. He then went back

602
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.559
to the bedroom and looked around a little bit more.

603
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.039
He said he found thirteen dollars plus some jewelry that

604
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.000
interested him, so he took it. But as he came

605
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.759
back out of the bedroom the second time, he said

606
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:31.480
that he was seeing the homeowner lady crawl towards her husband,

607
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.759
but it wasn't like she was crawling to go assist him.

608
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.440
It was more like she was crawling because she was

609
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.400
just trying to see what was happening around the corner,

610
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:47.079
and she was watching Donald continue to beat Jack. So

611
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.440
by that point he had gone it's kind of back

612
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.920
and forth, but at some point he went and then

613
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.839
he duct taped her hands and her feet. So after

614
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:01.960
he duct taped her hands in her feet, he then

615
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:06.640
walked into the den and that duct tape that he

616
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.680
had used to duct tape the wife, he said, Donald said,

617
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.640
we need to duct tape him speaking of Jack. So

618
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.160
Jack was taped up, Donald did beat him a little

619
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.839
bit more at that point. He said that Donald then

620
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.400
put the gun to the man's head and he went

621
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.160
to pull the trigger, but it just clicked, so it

622
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:30.839
either jammed or whatever, but the bullet didn't go off.

623
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.039
And it was his best recollection that Brian had put

624
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.319
tape on the lady at one point two, but they

625
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:43.240
didn't put tape on the man until they were almost

626
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:48.200
done beating him. So, you know, he said, he was

627
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:52.200
literally no longer responsive whenever we put the tape on

628
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.680
the man, and that's kind of whenever they went to

629
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.960
go leave the home. But what was even more interesting

630
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.079
about it was they didn't just run out of the house.

631
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.920
They didn't even touch the wife. They didn't hurt the wife.

632
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:10.360
He said that, you know, the man wasn't moving, and

633
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.000
right before they left to go out the door, that

634
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.880
Donald went over to the woman and he cut the

635
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.920
tape on her hands, like to help her get out,

636
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.239
and then they left. They ran out of the house,

637
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.480
they jumped into the van, and as they were backing out,

638
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.840
Donald kind of quipped and said, damn, I think I

639
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.320
killed him. So Patrick was asked, okay, well what happened

640
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:33.119
to the duct tape after y'all left, and he said, well,

641
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.079
we took it with us, but Patrick threw it out

642
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.400
the window or whatever and threw it into some water.

643
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:41.320
They went back to Donald's house and he said, that's

644
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:43.519
where it was parked in Donald's garage.

645
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.880
We cleaned up, and then we.

646
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.320
Kind of, you know, I had to start cleaning up

647
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:54.280
the van. He also said that Donald's wife, Valerie came

648
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.920
to the door and gave them a bucket of water,

649
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.480
which they used to clean up. He said that he

650
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.800
cleaned the stick, the war stick that he had brought,

651
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:06.320
and then he said that they returned it back to

652
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.320
their house. The mcwhite brothers brought it back to their

653
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.840
house whenever all was said and done. He also said

654
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.599
that Donald and Brian changed clothes completely, and that they

655
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.480
burned their clothes and the gloves that they were wearing

656
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.920
during the murder. He was adamant, though, that he had

657
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.199
no idea that they were going to go there and

658
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.920
murder somebody. He was adamant they were going to give

659
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.559
me a hundred bucks to go beat up somebody. It

660
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.159
was easy money, and they said, okay, well, did you

661
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.199
hit him? And he said, you know, I may have

662
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.480
hit him one time. I don't think that I hit him.

663
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:41.320
I don't.

664
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.880
To me, that's just kind of separating yourself. I mean

665
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.280
I would know if I hit someone during a murder. Sorry,

666
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:48.159
I just don't. I don't believe that. But he's just

667
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.039
trying to minimize I don't think he had a whole

668
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.679
lot of to do. Maybe in the beatings as much

669
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:53.400
as the other two.

670
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.079
But whatever. Now back to the whole motive thing.

671
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.199
Yes, we know now that Jack admitted that he was

672
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.840
having an affair with that young teen Carrie. But would

673
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:06.559
your wife of almost thirty years really kill you for

674
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.320
having an affair? I mean, sure you're gonna be pissed off,

675
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.559
but it seems like a bit much to have him killed, right.

676
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.800
So what if I told you that this shit show

677
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.000
was about to get even deeper?

678
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:23.440
Because it did.

679
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:28.280
It turns out, the more digging police did, they found

680
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.440
out that not only was Jack having an affair with

681
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.880
this young girl, but fine financial record showed that he

682
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.639
had in fact purchased a diamond ring for the eighteen

683
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.719
year old girl. He's still married to Linda, and he's

684
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.960
already proposed to this young girl.

685
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:46.880
That's right.

686
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:49.800
He wasn't just sleeping with her. He had plans to

687
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.199
marry her, even though he was currently married. And basically

688
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.039
this meant he had made up his mind and he

689
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:59.719
was done with Linda. Even more proof of this was

690
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:04.679
that when Linda kicked Carrie out of their home, Jack

691
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.000
didn't just let this girl fall flat on her face.

692
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.239
He actually went and leased an apartment and they leased

693
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.440
it in both of their names. Jack and Carrie leased

694
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:18.519
it together, So he's paying for that, he's buying diamond rings.

695
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.679
Surely Linda would be super pissed about this. And I

696
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.559
think Linda was very painfully aware that it was over

697
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:29.480
and she was being replaced by a very newer and

698
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.079
younger model. And I know y'all heard that saying of young,

699
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:33.880
dumb and full of calm, but this is more like

700
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:35.559
older with money and locking down a younger.

701
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:36.639
Honey, you know what I'm saying.

702
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.119
I guess just because you get older doesn't mean you

703
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:42.239
don't you don't stop chasing tail. I don't know, but

704
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.719
when Linda found out about the wedding ring, she found

705
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.840
out not because Jack had told her, but because whenever

706
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.199
she had pulled their credit card statement or whenever it

707
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.679
came in the mail she found the purchase for the ring.

708
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:56.480
And guess what.

709
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.440
The ring purchase was made on October thirteenth, nineteen ninety five,

710
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.559
right before Jack was murdered. And this is where bestie

711
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.800
Janis comes back into play, because look, Janis wasn't just

712
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:10.719
a friend like I've told you, it's been since childhood.

713
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.519
I mean she was even the maid of honor in

714
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:17.639
their wedding, and so she had friendship not only with Linda,

715
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.960
but yeah, she really did have a friendship with Jack

716
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.800
as well. Just because he was cheating on Linda didn't

717
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:27.760
make him less of a friend to Janice too, And

718
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.079
so Janie already knew about the affair Jack was having.

719
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:34.280
And so when they were having this conversation like girlfriends do,

720
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.280
and Linda said, you know, I could just get a

721
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:41.320
gun and kill him, she didn't really take that seriously.

722
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.800
What struck Janie and what she wanted to tell detectives

723
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.519
in addition to what I've already told you, was that

724
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.639
Linda added that she also felt like she could get

725
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.119
away with it because it was so obvious that she

726
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.239
had been so wronged that people would just just feel

727
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.960
sorry for her and it would be fine. And Janice

728
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.039
started speaking in that conversation and she said, well, I

729
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.320
know a man, and Linda interrupted her and said, really

730
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:15.760
you do, but Janie continued saying, yes, I know a

731
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.719
man that would be a really good lawyer. His name

732
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:21.880
is Lacey Mahon, I believe was the man she was

733
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.639
talking about. And that's when Linda came back and went, oh,

734
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.360
I thought you meant something else, as in, like, you

735
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.840
knew a guy that would be a hitman, and Janis

736
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:34.360
was like, what, no, I'm talking about a good divorce lawyer.

737
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:38.360
So towards the end of the conversation, Linda also added

738
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.519
that Jack was going to be coming home that evening

739
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:43.599
because they were going to be discussing their finances, and

740
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.760
she went a little bit deeper, saying that there was

741
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.679
a five hundred thousand dollars total value in life insurance

742
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:55.599
policies if something were to happen to Jack and if

743
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.119
they got divorced, that she was going to lose out

744
00:39:58.119 --> 00:39:59.679
on that. It was like he had one hundred and

745
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:03.760
twenty five thousand life insurance, plus he had more through

746
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.400
the company that he worked for, and there was an

747
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.199
additional one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars that was

748
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:12.119
added in through Key Buick, which was the company that

749
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.480
he worked for. And so she really was upset because

750
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.480
she felt like, all this money on his life insurance,

751
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.039
if he leaves me and goes hooks up with this

752
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.199
young girl, she's gonna get added as the beneficiary of

753
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:25.159
all that money. And that's not fair. I've been married

754
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.280
to him all these years. She shouldn't get to just

755
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.559
swoop in and benefit off of his life insurance. And

756
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:33.519
then before they hung up, she also started talking about

757
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.559
an indemnity clause. Okay, y'all, it's twenty twenty four, I

758
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.679
get it. You start having this kind of conversation with me,

759
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.239
like red flag, wave that red flag. Why are we

760
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.039
talking about insurance and killing your husband and all that

761
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.559
kind of stuff. But I mean, this was the nineties,

762
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.840
and her friend was hurt and was angry and was

763
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:49.920
really just talking about this young girl coming in and

764
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.000
kind of taking over her life after she's invested thirty years.

765
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.199
But she also added, you know, it would be over

766
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.280
my dead body that this girl's going to come in

767
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.360
and become the beneficiary of all of this money. So

768
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:05.920
after the fact, now that Jack's dead, Janis was like,

769
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.599
holy shit, was she really telling me like the plan

770
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.119
of what was gonna go on? And so Detextaves are like, well,

771
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:12.719
what did you say at the end of that conversation,

772
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.159
and Jannis said, I told her, girl, you need to

773
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.360
get a hold of your senses. You're talking kind of crazy.

774
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.000
You need to calm down. Let's get a divorce and

775
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.440
move on. There's life after divorce. A matter of fact,

776
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.079
Janie had been divorced. She was married seventeen years, I believe,

777
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:25.880
and then got divorced.

778
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.159
We can do this. You're gonna do this. It's fine,

779
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:29.679
let's just move on.

780
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:32.880
So, knowing what we know at this point, maybe Linda

781
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:35.039
was going a little bit crazy and maybe she was

782
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:39.519
losing her mind a little bit over this teenager. But

783
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:44.000
back to Patrick, he also added some other information about

784
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:49.079
another incident, not the murder, another incident that would be

785
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.400
very vital to this investigation. He said, not only did

786
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.440
I take part in what ended up being the murder

787
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:57.760
of Jack, he said, I also took part in some

788
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:03.559
other activity before Jack was killed. And he said, in

789
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.960
this situation, or in this incident with his brother Brian,

790
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.760
he went with Donald, and he went with Michael Clark,

791
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:13.000
the same guys that were there during the murder of Jack,

792
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.679
and he said, we went to an apartment of a

793
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:21.519
girl that Patrick didn't know when he went there. He said,

794
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:23.519
the plan was we were gonna knock on the door

795
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:26.119
and kind of barge our way in. Whenever this girl

796
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.599
opened the door, that Donald told us take whatever you

797
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:31.480
want that was of any value, and that he was

798
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:34.039
going to go have a quote unquote talk with this

799
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:38.039
young girl. But when they got there, Donald got a

800
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.920
phone call from someone saying that there was someone else

801
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.639
in the apartment, so they needed to wait. So they

802
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.440
just sat outside and they did not go into that apartment,

803
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:51.639
not until a man left the apartment. Now I know

804
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.360
you're smart enough to realize that was Jack leaving the apartment,

805
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.800
he said. After that they all got out. They went

806
00:42:57.840 --> 00:42:59.440
and they knocked on the door of this girl at

807
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.199
the apartment, but she didn't come to the door. Nobody answered,

808
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.440
and so that's whenever another phone call was made and

809
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.440
they switched gears and they went and they broke out

810
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:14.199
the windows of her car. So when the police went

811
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:18.159
and they questioned Michael Clark about his supposed involvement in

812
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.239
the incident, the story had a little bit of difference

813
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.039
to it. According to Michael Clark, the reason that they

814
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:26.599
went to the apartment was that they were going to

815
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.960
steal something of value, and that thing of value was

816
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.199
a diamond ring. They were being told by someone to

817
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:38.639
go steal a diamond ring. So when they got there,

818
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.599
Donald Michael said, yeah, we had to wait in the

819
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.000
van for about forty five minutes because there was somebody.

820
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.480
They were waiting for that person to leave. He said,

821
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.480
during that time while we waited, I called my mom

822
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:52.719
because it was her birthday and I was going to

823
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:54.039
be late to her party, and I wanted to go

824
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:55.280
ahead and say Happy Birthday.

825
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:56.840
After that man left.

826
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.480
That's whenever they got out, they went and broke windows

827
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.599
out of this girl's car. So obviously this was someone

828
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:09.039
directing them to go mess with Carrie. And that certainly

829
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.519
sounds like a scorned woman taking revenge and asking some.

830
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:14.400
Other CD characters to do it for her.

831
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:18.960
But if you're not kind of seeing what's happening here,

832
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.400
the day that Linda found out about the purchase of

833
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.960
the wedding set was the exact same day that some

834
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.320
guys went and busted out the windows of her car. Now,

835
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:33.880
when speaking to Carrie about this, police also found out

836
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:39.760
that Linda had called Carrie that same day, like right

837
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.679
before all this stuff happened to her car, and was

838
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.039
yelling at her and harassing her. As a matter of fact,

839
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:49.280
Carrie was home when they went and knocked on the door.

840
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.679
Carrie said, some men came and knocked on my door.

841
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.280
She said, I was too afraid to answer because of

842
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.280
what just had happened, and Linda was screaming at me,

843
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:58.440
and I didn't know who these people were. And she

844
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.599
said it wasn't until she went out side later on

845
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.239
that she found that her car windows had been busted out.

846
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.519
She also said that her brake lines were cut. And

847
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.639
then reviewing the phone records, police found that Donald Bradley

848
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.719
had called Michael Clark on November seventh, the same day

849
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:18.000
that Jack was killed. And oddly enough, guess what it

850
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:20.840
was on the day that Jack was killed. It was

851
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.639
Michael Clark's birthday. So all of this happened, the murder

852
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.000
on Michael Clark's birthday, and then the harassment and breaking

853
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:32.280
of the windows of Carrie's apartment on Michael Clark's mom's birthday,

854
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:37.039
So he said they didn't speak of a specific plan necessarily,

855
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.159
but Donald did mention that at some point they were

856
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.679
going to go to Lake Asbury, which is where Jack's

857
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:46.599
home was. So they're getting bits and pieces and it's

858
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:48.840
all kind of starting to come together. And look, I

859
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.519
know my storytelling on this one might be all over

860
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.719
the place, but I kind of did this on purpose

861
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:55.679
because I wanted you to kind of see the run

862
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.320
around that the detectives were getting and how the pieces

863
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.039
and parts have to be kind of put together between

864
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.039
everything that everybody says, well, do you remember how I

865
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.000
told you that Donald lived in a gated community, Well,

866
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.920
that too was going to combine to bite him in

867
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.360
the ass. See, there was a security guard that worked

868
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.840
the gate at that gated community where he lived, And

869
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.519
this is where I'm going to introduce miss Irene Sharkey

870
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.239
to the story. She was the one working the gate

871
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.880
and she was responsible for letting people in and out.

872
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:31.320
And according to her records, Valerie Bradley, remember Donald's wife,

873
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.800
she was the one that called and she was the

874
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.159
one that asked her to open the gate at eleven

875
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:42.199
twenty four for Cindy Bradley. But she also called later

876
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.599
on that day at twelve twenty eight and asked that

877
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.920
she let Linda Jones in. So both Linda and Cindy

878
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.320
were at the house of Donald with their White with

879
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:57.840
his wife, and then the both of them ended up

880
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.159
leaving around two twenty that evening. Now I'm not saying

881
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.079
it sounds like they may have gotten together and planned

882
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:04.639
out something, but it sure seems like.

883
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.199
They got together and planned out something. Right.

884
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:10.880
So, when Valerie was questioned about what all she remembered

885
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.440
from the day that these people came to her home,

886
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.239
she said she didn't remember who called the front gate

887
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.159
to let these people in, and she said she also

888
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.159
couldn't remember if Cindy and Linda both came over. She

889
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.840
was also pretty clear that she did not see either

890
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:30.239
brother that night either. Talking about the mcwhite brothers. So,

891
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.760
according to Donald, the night of the murder, this is

892
00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:36.679
what he did. Donald said on November seventh, the night

893
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.199
of the murder, he went to work like he normally did,

894
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.519
and he got home between six and seven pm. It

895
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.599
was not unusual for him to call his wife to

896
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.840
open the garage for him because the kid's toys were there,

897
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.360
and to ask her to move some stuff so that

898
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.039
he could back his trailer and his truck into the

899
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:55.840
driveway and he didn't want to run over all of

900
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.360
their stuff. His sister, Cindy, he said, came to the

901
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.679
house around seven, which is about the same time that

902
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.280
he would have gotten home, and he said that their

903
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.880
plans were that they were going to be hanging out

904
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.280
and that they were going to be watching a movie together.

905
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:13.000
So I was even curious about what the movie was,

906
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.800
so I did some research and it's called Nothing Lasts Forever.

907
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:17.760
That's the movie he says they were watching.

908
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:18.360
Now.

909
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.760
According to Donald, the movie started around nine o'clock and

910
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.960
it lasted until eleven PM. He said, I did leave

911
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.440
at one point around eight, but I just went fifteen

912
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:29.320
minutes down the road.

913
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:30.000
He said.

914
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.440
I went to the wind Dixie to get some snacks

915
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:34.239
and some milk, and I came right back and I

916
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.119
made it back before the movie started, and we all

917
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:41.599
stayed together until eleven that night. So police did a

918
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:44.239
simple check of the TV schedule for November seventh, and

919
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.199
you know what, it actually backed up his claim. Nothing

920
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.519
Last Forever, which was a two part mini series, was

921
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:56.079
playing that night from eight to eleven. Something Still is

922
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.719
not right. Detectives just had to do a little bit

923
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:05.079
more work. I mean, you know, being Donald's CPA is

924
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.159
one thing, but what is the link? You have to

925
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.760
figure out the link between being a CPA doing someone's

926
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:16.320
taxes and the fact that you might could be working

927
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.800
together to have murdered your husband, because any reasonable doubt

928
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.159
in the minds of a jury could be added by

929
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.800
a good detect a good defense attorney. All they have

930
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:26.000
to do is say, look, you want to get his

931
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.960
tax documents. Of course he went by Linda's house. Multiple

932
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:30.800
people would go buy our house to get their stuff.

933
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:35.199
So you know, if you're any red blooded American, I'm

934
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:38.360
gonna say this real quick. If you're a red blood American,

935
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:40.440
paying taxes probably makes you mad.

936
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.280
I hate paying taxes, y'all, I hate it.

937
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.480
But what if I told you pay in your taxes

938
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.880
might get you caught up in murder, because that's exactly

939
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:54.239
what's about to happen. It turns out that the taxes

940
00:49:55.199 --> 00:50:00.880
that Donald's business returns showed had that is, business only

941
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:07.079
made nine thousand, one hundred dollars the year that Donald

942
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.320
was that Jack was murdered. So this was obviously a

943
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:12.239
red flag. Why would you stay in business if you're

944
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.440
only making nine grand a year? Now, even if you're

945
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.400
gonna say, oh, well, maybe it was a side hustle.

946
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:20.239
Maybe it was, it wasn't their main business. Well, I

947
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.320
want to just let you know you're wrong, because Valerie

948
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.599
herself said that Donald's income was their only income. And

949
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.320
y'all they're living in a gated community, all right, So

950
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:33.079
the IRS became kind of curious about how that could be.

951
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.559
So Valerie said, well, look, I am in talks with

952
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.079
the irs because they feel like we owe more in taxes,

953
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.400
that maybe our taxes weren't right. And so they said, well,

954
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:43.480
aren't you the one that signed your tax returns? And

955
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:45.440
she says, well, yeah, I mean I sign them, but

956
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:50.199
I just signed whatever Linda arranges for us. Matter of fact,

957
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:55.079
Linda does all the taxes for everyone in our family.

958
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.920
So was it possible that there was a financial bin

959
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:03.559
fit in this murder that took place?

960
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:04.719
So police were.

961
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.159
Gonna keep digging. Was was she gonna help them out

962
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.519
with their taxes? HM?

963
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:11.360
So, wanting to know more.

964
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:15.039
About Jack's daily activities, detectives dug into what he did

965
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:16.840
on the daily and that's when they found out that

966
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.679
Jack would normally go over to Carrie's apartment around five

967
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.159
thirty in the morning, then he would go to work.

968
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.000
He would return to the apartment for lunch, he would

969
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:26.559
go back to work, and then he would go back

970
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:31.400
over there after work from about six thirty seven, and

971
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.000
then around seven o'clock he would leave the apartment and

972
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:36.719
he would go back to the home of he and

973
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.719
Linda as soon to be ex wife. So detectives wanted

974
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:42.079
a little bit more information about this whole situation to

975
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.000
put it all together. But it would come a little

976
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.360
bit easier now because as the word of Jack's brutal

977
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:52.679
death spread around town, a couple of people started coming forward,

978
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.880
including a man named Keith Falana.

979
00:51:56.239 --> 00:52:00.000
He came forward. Guess who Keith was? He too, was a.

980
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.840
Client of Linda's CPA firm, and guess what he had

981
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:07.880
to say. He said that during a conversation getting his

982
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.599
taxes done, Linda asked him if he would be willing

983
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:17.920
to kill her husband now. He laughed it off as

984
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:19.960
just a woman scorned run on her mouth saying I

985
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:20.679
need my husband killed.

986
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:25.559
You want to do it? But guess what. Another client

987
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:26.320
came forward.

988
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:29.119
His name was Ricky Byers, and y'all, he had the

989
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:33.000
exact same story. He said that Linda offered him money

990
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.159
to kill her husband, saying even that she would give

991
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.679
him a cashdown payment and that she would pay the balance.

992
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:40.639
After he was dead.

993
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:43.639
So they said, well, what was your response to that,

994
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.559
and he said, man, I looked at her and said, girl,

995
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:49.840
you are seriously crazy. There's something wrong with you. And

996
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:54.199
she laughed it off. So nobody really thought that she

997
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:56.519
meant it. But my god, how many people are going

998
00:52:56.599 --> 00:53:00.559
to be asked to do this. So every combined to

999
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:03.639
this point had investigators beyond confident that Linda was the

1000
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:06.719
one behind the murder of Jack. But the final straw

1001
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:11.480
well that came after a check of cell phone records.

1002
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.960
All of the frequent phone calls from Linda Jones' cell

1003
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:20.599
phone to Donald Bradley started on October thirty first, which

1004
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.920
were just days after the ring purchase that Linda found

1005
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:27.320
found out about that Jack had bought. And I would

1006
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.719
like to also notice that October is not tax season

1007
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:32.559
if you haven't thought about that either. So the time

1008
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:34.760
frame is just making time frame is just making sense

1009
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.719
and putting everything all together with a nice little.

1010
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:37.960
Bow on it.

1011
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.360
This is what police say happened Linda became aware that

1012
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:45.039
her husband had this teenage lover and that he intended

1013
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.519
to leave her, and so Linda tried to destroy their relationship.

1014
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.559
It didn't work, and so that's when Linda went to

1015
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:55.559
the extent of faking those burglaries in their home as

1016
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.519
well as the physical and sexual assault attacks on her,

1017
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.519
basically trying to get jack attention, make her, make him

1018
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:04.679
feel sorry for her, and maybe would come back to

1019
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:05.239
the home.

1020
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.360
To protect her. But that didn't work either.

1021
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.440
So once she realized that she was losing her husband

1022
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:14.599
and that, you know, nothing she did was working, that's

1023
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.960
when she decided, well, if I can't have him, nobody

1024
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:19.719
else is going to have him either. I'm the one

1025
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.840
who invested the time She's not getting she being the

1026
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:27.960
teenager Carrie anything from this. So, based on multiple conversations

1027
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.000
that Linda had over a short period of time, she

1028
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:33.320
said that she wanted to blame Carrie for everything that

1029
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:37.480
was happening to her. And at first police believed that

1030
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:39.960
she was going to kill herself as well as Carrie,

1031
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:42.559
and they believe that because some other information came to

1032
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.360
light that she was trying to get a silencer from someone,

1033
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:47.800
and they believe that that silencer was going to be

1034
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:50.840
used to be able to get Carrie and then kill herself.

1035
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.199
But once she found out that Jack was going to

1036
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:58.480
marry Carrie, that's whenever he had to die, she wasn't

1037
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.000
going to let that happen, and so she said, well,

1038
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:04.000
I'm going to kill him or have him killed, and

1039
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:05.920
I'm going to be the one to gain all the

1040
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:10.000
financial benefit from this. So she chose Donald to ask

1041
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:12.440
him to commit the murder. And it wasn't by chance,

1042
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.639
because they also found out daving police that Cindy was

1043
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:20.400
actually best friends Donald's sister. Cindy was also best friends

1044
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:24.119
with Linda Jones during this timeframe. They were so close

1045
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:28.760
that Cindy and Linda spoke multiple times a day on

1046
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:32.719
the phone. Cindy obviously had a lot to do with

1047
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:35.280
making this connection between her brother. It wasn't just some

1048
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:39.719
random choice of a CPA client. And Donald was the

1049
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:43.000
brother of Cindy whose best friend was being completely wronged

1050
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:47.039
by her cheating husband. Donald was already a CD character.

1051
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:51.480
He already had, you know, domestic violence in his past,

1052
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.280
and so at first she was going to have Donald

1053
00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:58.599
go and physically intimidate Carrie at the apartment. They broke

1054
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:00.559
out the windows. They were going to see the diamond

1055
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:04.239
ring back and that hey, you can beat up Jack.

1056
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:08.639
But that plan turned to murder and he was going

1057
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.800
to kill Jack and then she was going to pay

1058
00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:14.960
him out of the life insurance policies once the payout

1059
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.119
was complete. This is why Linda made the phone call

1060
00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:20.039
claiming that she was going to need him to be

1061
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.320
home by seven thirty because she had to make sure

1062
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:26.280
that he was there when the killers arrived. Both of them.

1063
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:29.559
Both of those mcwhite brothers said that they listened to

1064
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:33.400
conversations between Linda and Donald on the day of the murder,

1065
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.159
and they also heard Linda say that the gun would

1066
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:39.679
be on the island in the kitchen. The police believe

1067
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.239
that everything younger brother Patrick said was accurate. Patrick had

1068
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.159
even said at one point that he begged or kind

1069
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:48.920
of said, yo, stop stop hitting him, stop hitting him,

1070
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.840
because he felt like the beating was getting like it

1071
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:57.760
was too much. And obviously Donald just kept going. So

1072
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:02.159
Brian mcwhite would then also come forward with more information,

1073
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.119
saying okay, yeah we did. We burned our clothes. We

1074
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.519
also ended up going back and getting the warstick from

1075
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:11.599
our house and we burned that too. Brother Brian also

1076
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:14.119
added that Donald had told him he was expecting a

1077
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:18.840
payout of two hundred thousand dollars from a life insurance policy.

1078
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:21.800
So to argue that the plan was just to hurt

1079
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:27.360
Jack doesn't fit because Donald had a lot to gain financially,

1080
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:33.360
and he offered to pay the brothers, those employees Mcwhite

1081
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:36.760
brothers for their participation in this. And I will add

1082
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:38.760
this in, and it may be an unpopular opinion, but

1083
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.840
I really don't know that younger brother Patrick knew that

1084
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:46.960
they were going to kill Jack. I just don't think

1085
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:51.599
he may have known that, because again, did he even

1086
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:54.320
would testify that he said, bruh, stop, you're gonna you

1087
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:58.559
know this is too much. And also I'm going to

1088
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:00.719
say something else from an objective of you, not an

1089
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.360
emotional point of view, but I don't buy that a

1090
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:07.159
kid is gonna go help beat up somebody for one

1091
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.239
hundred dollars, or excuse me, go kill somebody for just

1092
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:13.039
one hundred dollars, when if he knew that the ringleader

1093
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:17.320
was getting two hundred thousand dollars. Also, further questioning of

1094
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.599
Patrick brought to light that Linda's mouth wasn't taped just

1095
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:25.400
once during that home invasion and murder. It was taped twice,

1096
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:28.639
and so that kind of caught my attention. So why

1097
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.000
did he bring that up? And he said, well, because

1098
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:34.800
during the beating, Donald was talking to Linda like they

1099
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:36.719
knew one another. And he said, it was really confusing

1100
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.159
to me because I thought we were doing this, like

1101
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:40.320
go in and beat this guy up. So why was

1102
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:42.360
Donald talking to this woman almost like.

1103
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:44.519
He knew her? And he said it was really weird.

1104
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:48.079
So he had duct taped her. She pulled the tape off.

1105
00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:51.400
They were talking during everything, and then he had to

1106
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:53.559
go back when Donald said shut that woman up and

1107
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:55.519
read tape her, and he said the whole thing just

1108
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:57.079
seemed like she was.

1109
00:58:57.079 --> 00:58:58.840
Acting and it was weird.

1110
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:02.000
And then he added to that that and then when

1111
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:04.400
Donald cut the tape when we went to leave off

1112
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:06.960
of her hands, I just couldn't understand why.

1113
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:11.920
He also said that it struck him as crazy.

1114
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:13.440
Whenever they got in the car and Donald said, I

1115
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:15.440
think I may have killed him, and he was shocked

1116
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.280
because he said, I didn't think we were going there

1117
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:21.559
to kill somebody. I just believe this kid. I don't

1118
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.239
know what he has to gain from it. I feel

1119
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:24.400
like he went to tell the truth because he had

1120
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:25.960
a conscience and because he didn't want to get wrapped

1121
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:27.400
up in a murder, because he did not have a

1122
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.280
plan to go do the murder. I can't say the

1123
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:31.320
same for his brother, because his brother knew about the

1124
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:35.119
two hundred thousand dollars payout. When it's all said and

1125
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:39.000
done either way, Linda Donald and the mcwhite brothers were

1126
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:43.239
all arrested for the murder of Jack White. Donald Bradley

1127
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:46.400
was convicted of first degree murder, burglary, and conspiracy to

1128
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:50.559
commit murder and would ultimately be sentenced to death. Donald's wife,

1129
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:53.679
Valerie was arrested as well. You don't see a lot

1130
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:58.000
of that mentioned in any other you know, productions about

1131
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:02.079
this case, but she was also charged, and she was

1132
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.360
charged with accessory after the fact. But by the time

1133
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:09.599
everything went to trial, Cindy Bradley, the brother of Donald,

1134
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:12.880
was forty one years old and would be terminally ill,

1135
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:17.440
so her testimony would be recorded and a jury would

1136
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:21.400
have to listen to her testimony you know, by videotape.

1137
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:25.039
But guess what, she never rolled over on her brother.

1138
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:28.000
Her testimony continued to state that she was the one

1139
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:30.599
that borrowed her brother's phone, that all of the phone

1140
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:34.199
calls between her and Linda were legitimate and about tax purposes.

1141
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.039
She also maintained that they all stayed together and that

1142
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.840
they watched a movie the night in question. So I

1143
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:42.519
guess the sister really loved her brother, no matter what

1144
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:45.440
evidence was put, you know, in front of people's faces.

1145
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.599
When Linda's trial came about, it was extensively explained how

1146
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:54.760
Linda attempted five separate solicitations in order to have her

1147
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.760
husband killed. Now, this was something that was not said

1148
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:02.639
on anything I've ever seen, and this made my jaw drop.

1149
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:07.599
When Linda was in trial, it was made very clear

1150
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.760
that not only had Linda staged those home you know,

1151
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:14.800
those burglaries, but that this sexual assault claim went a

1152
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:18.400
bit deeper than just saying that she'd been sexually assaulted.

1153
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.960
They looked at Linda's phone records and she was in

1154
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.679
contact with two other petty criminals that were known to

1155
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:29.119
local law enforcement. Their names were Dwight Dana Hugh and

1156
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:32.599
Greg Green, and they both said that Linda asked them

1157
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.079
to kill Jack, but they said no, we're not going

1158
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:39.440
to do that, but Greg Green did agree that he

1159
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:43.239
would help her fake the burglary and this supposed rape

1160
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:46.880
sexual assault. Do you want to know how committed Linda

1161
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:49.440
was to this sexual assault claim?

1162
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:53.360
This is crazy to me.

1163
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:58.039
She had him come over and she paid him to

1164
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.480
kind of, you know, beat her up a little bit

1165
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:04.519
and scratch her up for the burglary, you know claims.

1166
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:08.800
But the rape and sexual assault claim. Linda went to

1167
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:11.719
his place of business, this is according to a lieutenant

1168
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:16.039
on the case, and she paid him fifty dollars and

1169
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:20.719
had sex with him. She literally went and had sex

1170
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.599
with someone else and paid him for it to really

1171
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:27.760
hammer home that she had been sexually assaulted. The woman

1172
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.639
who was so angry that her husband was cheating on

1173
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.440
her was willing to pay these shitty little criminals to

1174
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:37.440
have sex with her and slap her around a little

1175
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.400
bit so that she could make the claim that she

1176
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:41.960
had been sexually assaulted. That's some devious shit right there.

1177
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.360
Linda was convicted and she was sentenced to life imprisonment

1178
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:48.119
for the murder of her husband, and y'all, she continues

1179
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:52.199
to maintain her innocence to this day. She even added

1180
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:54.800
in an interview that I saw that it was so

1181
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.480
sad being behind bars for something that she just didn't do.

1182
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:01.760
And she said, you know, you cry a lot, even

1183
01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:04.760
if you get on medication for depression, you just cry

1184
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:08.159
a lot. Well, I wonder if Jack was crying, you know,

1185
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.719
before he took his last breath.

1186
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:11.760
And I know that people.

1187
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:14.599
Might sit here and go, well, you really shouldn't have

1188
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:16.119
cheated on his wife, and you know what, You're right,

1189
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he shouldn't have. But I'm gonna stand on the side

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that being a cheater is morally you know, that's a

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bad thing.

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You shouldn't do that.

1193
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But deserving to die and being murdered, those don't equate.

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In my book, Jack was jumped and attacked and beaten

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to death by a group of men armed with weapons,

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and they beat him until he stopped breathing. And it

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was all under the direction and the control, and it

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was planned by the very woman who claimed to love him.

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Linda should have just let the cards fall, let him

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fall where they lay. We all know what would have happened.

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01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:56.599
Jack would have moved in with this little eighteen year old.

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She would have taken him for all that he was worth,

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and then she would have left him and Linda could

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have laughed all the way to a new relationship and

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a happy ending of her life, but instead she chose to.

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Have him killed.

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And for that, I don't feel sorry for her her

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daughters though, remember they both Jack and Linda had two daughters.

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They both continue to support her claims of innocence, and I,

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01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:21.239
you know, I genuinely do feel sorry for them. Their

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01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:25.239
mother is a murderer, their daddy is dead. They really

1212
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:27.400
seem to be, you know, forgotten victims and all this

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01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:31.800
as well. But you know they're related to her, and

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they have a reason to look for the best and

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01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:38.920
the woman who loved them and raise them. But I

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01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:41.719
don't share that same sentiment. I'm just thinking of Jack

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01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:44.199
in the fetal position on the ground, begging for his

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01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:48.599
life while he was mercilessly beaten. So regardless your opinion

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01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:52.039
of Jack, maybe Carrie was, you know, the light of

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01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:53.840
his life. But if that's the case, then I guess

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01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.840
Linda would have to be the broken glow stick of

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his life because you can snap her and shake her

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all you want, but the light ain't coming on and

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she ain't ta and responsibility