April 23, 2025

HOMICIDE: Alison Parker and Adam Ward

HOMICIDE: Alison Parker and Adam Ward

In this  episode of Unspeakable, Kelly tells the horrific story of the murders of TV Journalist Alison Parker and Photojournalist Adam Ward which took place during a news interview on live television. 
 
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Season 7

In this episode of Unspeakable, Kelly tells the horrific story of the murders of TV Journalist Alison Parker and Photojournalist Adam Ward which took place during a news interview on live television.

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Sources
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3213494/Vester-Flanagan-s-family-reveal-knew-gay-accepted-cousin-says-praying-victims-families.html
https://www.norrisfuneral.com/obituaries/Alison-Bailey-Parker?obId=1072899
https://people.com/crime/alison-parkers-father-shares-heartbreaking-memories-of-her/
https://fox59.com/news/virginia-gunman-meticulously-planned-shooting-that-killed-wdbj-reporter-and-photographer/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/31/hometown-slain-tv-cameraman-adam-ward/71490642/
https://kfyo.com/wdbj-shooting-timeline/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-hurst-boyfriend-alison-parker-girlfriend-death/
https://www.refworld.org/reference/annualreport/cpj/2015/en/108541
https://cnycentral.com/news/nation-world/search-warrant-reveals-contents-of-flanagans-car-08-27-2015?photo=1
https://www.wtvr.com/2015/08/28/wdbj-shooting-cause-of-death

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's

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kJ here. I'm back with another episode of Unspeakable. What's

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going on with you? How was your Easter? Mine was fantastic.

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I had so much fun and it was beautiful and

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I got to wear a new dress with pockets and

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we all know that's a big deal. I hope that

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you had a great one. I got to get some

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shout outs here to some people, and I'm going to

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start in I hope I say this right with Tumpka Alabama?

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Did I say that right? I sure hope. So that's

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where missus Holly Drew is and I want to say, hey,

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how are you doing, Holly over there in Alabama? As

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well as right here now, I know this young lady

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in shall met Louisiana. This is Nicole Hunt. How are

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you doing, Nicole? I know we spoke recently and you're

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a therapist if I recall correctly, And she gave me

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some feedback on one of my last episodes about I

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believe it was autism. I believe, but we had a

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great talk and I enjoyed getting to know her. And

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her spouse is also Coleman, so I have to say

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hello to Coleman. How are you if you're listening, And

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I just love y'all so much for supporting me and

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continue to support me. I talk cold years ago. Coleman

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was also my student of the year, so I didn't forget.

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And then I've got two people that did not give

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me locations, and that's okay. I'm still going to give

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you a shout out, and that's going to be Lacey

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Shelton and Bailey Garcia. How are y'all doing, guys? I

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hope you're doing fantastic. I'm thrilled to have you as

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a crime family member and supporting me, and so thank

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you so very much wherever you are in the world.

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But let's get started in today's episode. So last week

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I had the Dylan Roof case for you. If you

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haven't listened to that yet, go listen to it before

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you start this one, which was absolutely horrible in every way.

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And I mentioned at the beginning of that one that

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I was surprised at how two huge cases could be

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linked but in no way related. Well, today you're going

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to find out exactly what I meant by that. And

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I want to talk first about something called chaos theory.

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I don't know if you've heard of it, but I

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want to bring it up for you. So, chaos theory

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is a branch of mathematics, and it deals with complex

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systems that the behavior is highly sensitive to slight changes

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in the conditions and basically, really really small changes can

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give rise to strikingly great consequences. Is the overall process

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behind chaos theory. And I'm no math expert, and I

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never claimed to be, and I never will, but I

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would probably actually call myself a bonafide moron if it

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comes down to it when it comes to math. Don't

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ever depend on me if your life depends on math,

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but the concept makes sense to me in regards to

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the chaos theory, and it leads to my point in

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today's case, because Dylan Ruf's actions in the church set

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off a chain of events that one would probably argue

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falls straight into that chaos theory category. And it made

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me kind of think of the butterfly effect, if you've

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heard of that, where the idea there is that if

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there's a minute localized change in a complex system, it

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makes it a huge change down the way. There was

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a movie about it too, where small thing like a

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butterfly flapping its wings can cause a storm or something

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on the other side of the world. But that's kind

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of what I'm thinking about when I'm introing into the

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one for today, because in this case, what happened in

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South Carolina is forever gonna change the course of people's

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lives in Virginia. So come with me to Roanoke, Virginia.

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And this is home to the new station WDBJ seven,

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which covers everything from the morning commute to the arts

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to crime. It's all of it, and it's where people

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get their news. And it's funny to me how news

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reporters in your local area become people that you almost

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feel like you know them. And when I see sometimes

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local reporters out in the out in the wild. I

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stare at them for a second because I'm like, wait,

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I know them, and then I realize, no, I don't.

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I have no clue who they are in person. I

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just know them from TV and at least that's where

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it is where I'm from, Okay. I grew up locally

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with a station called WAFB, and I watched the news

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with my parents every single night as a kid, even

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if I didn't know what was going on, and the

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faces and the voices of those anchors were ones that

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I knew, and I almost felt like were my family

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in a weird way. I know that sound's cheesy, but

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it's like that's what we did every night, was we

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sat down and I trusted these people even as a child,

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to tell me what was going on. And I knew

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I could depend on people like George Cells and Donna Britt.

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If you're local, you'll know exactly who I'm referring to.

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And I recently, matter of fact, went to we have

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a friend she does a true crime podcast too, but

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Kieran Shalla, she's a local reporter, and I went to

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a launch party for her website recently Jimithy and I

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went and I saw a face that I had not

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seen in years, in a long time, and it was

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mister George Sells, who was this anchorman from the news.

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He was older and a little grayer, but when he

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opened his mouth that booming voice, I was starstruck because

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I just grew up with this man. And I asked

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him to take a picture and he greataciously agreed to

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do so. It made my night, and we talked for

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a while, and I was just so exciting because the

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young girl and me felt like I was seeing an

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old friend that I hadn't seen him forever. And Miss

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Donna Britt she recently passed away from als, but that

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was another woman that I just really adored. I loved her,

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and her passing genuinely hurt my heart because it was

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a woman that I felt like I known for so long.

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The truth is, I've never met her a day in

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my life, but that's how much she affected my life.

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And I say all of this to emphasize the role

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of the news in everybody's life in some capacity, and

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this rang true for local Roanoke reporter Alison Parker. So

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I think you would probably agree with me on this.

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But to be a reporter or to be on TV,

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you have to have some type of personality or good

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looks or something that people are attracted to that they

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trust you or they want to hear what you have

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to say. And Alison had it all in that respect. Now,

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she was young, she was twenty four years old, fresh face,

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super energetic. She had this little petite frame, small facial features,

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and she rocked what I like to call that reporter hair.

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Do y'all know what I'm talking about. Reporters have that

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perfect hair that kind of flips out on the ends.

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It's got the volume. Hers was blonde and it was

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shoulder lenks and it kind of flipped out on the ends.

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She's preppy looking, clean cut, thousand watts, smile, basically everything

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that a newsperson who you would want to trust would

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I guess look like on camera, Exactly what you would

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expect them to look like. And Alison, although young, she

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had worked her butt off all twenty four years of

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her life to make it where she was at the

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news table. She had a history of being a very

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self motivated person and that's how she had gotten to

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be so successful at such a young age. And a

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little life info about her. I want to give you

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this because I want you to understand what a winner

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this girl was. She grew up in Collinsville, Virginia. She

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graduated from Martinsville High School in two thousand and nine.

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And while being an athlete, I'm not going to say

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that that's everything. I was an athlete, so I'm drawn

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to athletes. But while being an athlete isn't everything, what

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it does show or tell me is that there was

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motivation behind her, because you can't be an athlete if

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you're not competitive and you're not intrinsically motivated. Well, Ashley

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was a swimmer, and she was a really, really good

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one because she even won the Piedmont District Swimmer of

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the Year for her butterfly stroke. So she was pretty

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good at it, and the hours of practice and dedication

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in and out of the pool were evidenced by her

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success whenever she was in competition. But she was also

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incredibly smart. While she was still in high school, she

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was in a program for the academically gifted students and

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she got her completed her associate's degree while still in

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high school. So she was a winner on and off

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the field or the pool. However, you would say that.

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And her dad, his name's mister Andy. Her daddy's nickname

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for her was Scooter, and he knew that his Scooter

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was a nerd at heart, and I can appreciate that.

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I love that, and he would playfully poke fun at

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her for it, because she was a force of nature outwardly,

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but her bubbly personality was something that she led with.

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But looking inward, she totally had nerd tendencies. And I

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say that with total respect. I don't say that in

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an ugly way. She was part of the high school

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robotics team and she was in the band. So you

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want to talk about well rounded, the girl can do music,

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she can do academics, and she can swim, and she's

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an athlete, and she does robotics. The girl's got it

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going on. She played multiple instruments. She played the trumpet

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and the French horn in the jazz and in the

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concert band. So she was cultured too. I feel like

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she had a music appreciation more than probably the average Bearwood.

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But she was also a gymnast and very talented dancer.

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And her physical appearance looks like exactly what she would

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expect of a ballerina if you were watching one dance

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on stage. But that soft side was also well balanced

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with a girl who loved the outdoors because her main

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love was the river and kayaking is what she loved

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to do with her family. She was very close with

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her family and they were her number one fans. Her

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parents thought the world of her. She was their world.

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She also had an older brother named Drew, and Drew

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had as berger, so he had a different way about

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him and conducting his life. But something about the two

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of them, they just had the strongest bond and Alison

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got her brother like nobody else did, and the love

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that they had for each other was so deep, and

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she spent a lot of time and attention on him

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because she knew that he struggled socially at least he

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had some struggles. They could not as a family have

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been more proud of Alison when she then found out

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that she was accepted into the James Madison University School

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of Media, Arts and Design, and this was a dream

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come true for her because not only did she get

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to go to the school she wanted to go, but

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she also got to join in and become a member

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of Greek Life becoming a proud member of the Alpha

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Phi sorority. She wanted to help people and she had

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found a way to do so. We all know that

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Greek Life, you know, when I was younger, I don't

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think I would have ever joined Greek Life As an

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older person, I'm super proud for Greek Life people and

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the things that they do, and the money that they

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raise and the good things that they work towards. I

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don't think I was educated enough about it when I

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was younger as I am now that I'm older. And

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Alison joined in because of the good philanthropy that those

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groups could do. And then she also found a way

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to help by working as a calculus tutor for freshmen.

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So she's going to school working hard on her own

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doing all this philanthropy work, plus also working as a

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tutor for people that needed her help. And then in

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the summers, when she could have slacked off like the

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rest of us, she had even more things that she

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decided to do. She liked being out of school, I mean,

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there's no doubt about that, but she decided to work

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as an intern for the nighted Way during the summers.

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She was always putting her time to good use. And

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she was ecstatic to finally secure an internship at WDBJ

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seven News. Her daddy was so excited for her, and

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he said, Scooter, do you think you'll actually be on

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the air doing some news stories? Can you not see

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a daddy just so tickled about his little girl joining

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the news team, and she chuckled. He said, she laughed

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and said, no, daddy, I'm probably gonna be out there

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serving coffee or something to people. But whether she was

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doing a story or she was serving coffee, her daddy

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was beaming with pride that his baby girl was hired

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on at that news station. He believed in her and

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guess what the news station apparently did too, because, believe

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it or not, with little to no experience in news,

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they said, to hell with the coffee. They gave her

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six stories and they had her on camera before she

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even had time to process what happened. They saw a

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light in her, they saw gold, and they did not

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want to wait. They started molding her instantly for this career.

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So after graduating college in twenty twelve, she joined a

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news team in North Carolina as the Jacksonville Bureau chief

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before she was ultimately recruited to WDBJ seventeen and Roanoke

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as the morning reporter, and that's where this case really

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takes off. So Allison was the face and the voice

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that the people of Roanoke saw each weekday morning. She

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was a staple in their lives, and it was clear

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that journalism was in her blood and she had definitely

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earned her spot in front of the camera. So there

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was a segment I was researching her because obviously I

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want to get to know my girl here. And I

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was researching and saw a segment that she was highlighted

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in and they did a little Q and A for

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their viewers to kind of get to know the people

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that were behind the camera. And in that Q and A,

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amongst some other things, she talked about her favorite TV

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characters and what she liked to watch on TV. And

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I was like, hot, damn okay, girl, we're friends, Lee

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and you are on the same wavelength. Because she was

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talking about how much she loved Walter White, My girl

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liked Breaking Bad, she liked the darker crime shows. So

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I'm like, this chick is awesome, got personality for days,

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a go getter, and she loves her some true crime.

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Hell yeah, this is our girl, y'all, This is Alison,

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and she clearly was loved at her job, very comfortable

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in front of the camera. It was nothing for her.

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Her future was on an upward trajectory, both professionally and personally.

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She was doing really well. So it was in August morning,

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this is in twenty fifteen, when Alison was assigned to

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conduct a live interview with a woman named Vicki Gardner

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Andette was at the Manetta's Bridgewater Plaza and they were

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going to be covering these upcoming events for a fiftieth

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anniversary of Smith Mountain Lake. So this plaza was located

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about twenty six miles southeast of Roanoke. Okay, I'm gonna

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tell you all this Isn't it funny how you grow

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up saying things? Because I grew up hearing about Roanoke

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like it's that many syllable rowan oak. And I learned

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about that when we were talking about the wars and

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all that rowan oak. But when I'm listening to people

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from their say it, they say ron oak. It's not

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like rowan and oake like I was taught. So people

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out there, how y'all say it? Because I say rowan oak?

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And I think it's ron Oake. But either way, I

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got off topic there. But she was. That's where she was.

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That's where Alison was. So she got up really early

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that morning as usual to get her day started. And

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while this wasn't something that she necessarily plastered all over

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the news per se, she was happily in love and

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had recently moved in with her boyfriend of nine months.

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His name was Chris Hurst. Well Chris. He actually had

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a name that people knew because Chris was the WDBJ

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evening anchor. So here they are in the news. Their

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schedules were opposite of each other, but it was perfect

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for them. He would come in from his evening shift

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and working at night just as she was getting ready

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to go out super early in the morning for her

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morning shift, and they would kind of see each other

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in passing. Chris was flat out smitten with his love

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and Alison the same. They adored one another. He would

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even make her breakfast in the morning every morning as

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an act of love. And I will tell you I

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live that same dream because my husband makes me my

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breakfast and my coffee every morning and carries it out

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to my car. Well, this morning, Chris made Alison a

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smoothie and scrambled egg so she would be full up

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for work and she wouldn't be hungry while she was

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doing her job. And they kissed goodbye, and he headed

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off to bed to get some sleep, and Alison left

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out to go start her morning. But before she got on, cameeron.

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Before she started her interview, she made time to text

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him at some point before she got out of the car,

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and she said she texted him good night, sweet boy,

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just hoping that he had some good sleep while she

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was working. Now, Allison wouldn't be alone at this work

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site though, because while she may be the reporter, obviously

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someone's got a film it and that would be twenty

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seven year old cameraman Adam Ward. Now, Adam was a

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chill due, easygoing, helpful, one of those guys that's just

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all around likable. He's just somebody who comes into a

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room and people just are tickled by him. He was

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a total sports guy, love sports, and he's the type

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of knucklehead that no matter what the weather is, no

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matter what the temperature is, he is going to be

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in shorts and probably wearing a T shirt or a polo.

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But it could be snowing outside and the dude's gonna

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have his shorts on, kind of like football coaches in

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high schools always think of them. They're always sporting a

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pullover hoodie in shorts, doesn't matter if it's freezing cold outside,

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that's the uniform. And he was built like a coach too.

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But he gives off teddy bear vibes when you're looking

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at him. And it makes sense that he loves sports too,

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because he played football in high school and he played

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for not only one, but two championship teams. And one

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of the greatest things about Adam was that people who

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interacted him with him from a personal perspective all the

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way through a professional perspective, if they all had the

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same sentiment about him. They said that Adam showed respect

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to everyone and that he was genuine in his concern

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that he had just for people. He liked people, so

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clearly whatever he was learning on the field from his

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coaches would carry on off the field, and that he

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kept that winter mentality and he wanted to be a

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team player and help people any chance that he got.

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One thing he was known for doing, by the way,

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was he would give blood. That was his way that

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he would try to give back to the community, and

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he'd always brag that his blood was the color of

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his favorite team, which was Virginia Tech. He would say,

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I literally bleed maroon. I'm such a fan. So he

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had graduated college with his own degree in communications, and

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that's whenever he took that job at the news station

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alongside Allison, and that worked out better than he could

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have ever imagined, because now he too was also lucky

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in love, not with Alison, though, he and the morning

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show producer, her name was Melissa Ought. They caught each

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other's eye and they had been dating now since he

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had started working there. And not only had they been dating,

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but he had just recently proposed she was officially his fiance.

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He got down on one knee like you're supposed to,

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and he proposed to her and she excitedly said yes,

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and now they were set to get married in July

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of the following year. So life was really coming together

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for him. And in all of his pictures, he's one

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of those guys he's got a wide open mouth smile

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like dem near every picture he's wide eyed and smiling

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and grinning, big cheese on his face. Just that type

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of personality. So together, Alison and Adam went out on

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live shots that had a great working relationship together. So

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Adam and his fiance they're busy planning their wedding and

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attending sporting events. Alison is in love and having the

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time of her life with her boyfriend Chris, and she

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also had just been chosen to be a contestant in

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the Valley Stars Benefit and that was where they raised

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money for adults and children that were in imminent dangers

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situations because of domestic violence. Both of these people were

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really in their community and doing good things. And look,

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real quick, I'm to tell you this. I'm not trying

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to get in your personal life, but it looks like

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love blooms at the news station based on everything I've

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told you so far. So if you're listening and you're

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like single and looking for love, you need to go

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get on the news. Go join the go join the

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news team. And this has got to be true because

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my good friend Laurie, she was a news reporter and

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I used to watch her on TV and think that

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she was the most beautiful person I'd ever seen. And

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don't you know she married her coworker, by the way,

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who was also a reporter named Mike. So I'm telling

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you go work at the news hell, be in it

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if you must. But you could make a love connection.

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So there's there's my plug for that. Go find you

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some love. I digress. So here's Adam, here's Allison, and

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they set out early on that hot August morning. They're

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gonna meet up with Vicky Gardner and they're gonna record

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that live segment at the Bridgewater events that are that

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are coming up. Vicky was the executive director of Smith

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Mountain Lake Regional Chamber of Commerce, and so her role,

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amongst a million other things, was to bring attention to

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this wonderful community and all that it had to offer.

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So Vicky's long term vision was that she wanted to

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have this large center where the locals could all come

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see it and use it as a gathering place. It

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could be a resource that they could use for everything

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from higher education classes to town hall meetings and everything

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in between. So, if you can tell, Vicky was also

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very invested in this place that she called home. Vicky

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was married to VICKI was married to her husband, Tim,

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and together they had built a really nice life together.

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They were each other's constant and they supported one another

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in all of their endeavors. So Miss Vicky was super

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excited that she was going to get to be on

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the news that morning, and she was really focused on

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showcasing all of her wonderful ideas. And her husband was

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super excited too, and he was going to watch her

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be on TV that morning. It was fun for everybody.

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So Miss VICKI met up with Alison and Adam early

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that morning and they talked through how to include all

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of the information that they had to cover in these

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couple of segments that they were going to do that morning,

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but due to time constraints and the way that the

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news flowed, it was going to have to be done

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in three segments that were going to have to be

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pretty short throughout the morning broadcast. So Adam was professional

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as always, and they were all kind of standing there

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talking together. He's suggesting what angles should they take so

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they get the best scenery in the background, and then

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working off of Allison, they determined a light outline for

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how to introduce the segment and so on and so forth.

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So they were kind of just getting getting their grits

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together about how they were going to do things Alison

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was dressed as any professional reporter her age would be.

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She was in this fitted red dress, it looked very

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nice on her to the knee, and a black sweater

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and she had on these little black wedges. So being

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that Adam was behind the camera, Adam was more relaxed

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than what he was wearing. And you guessed it. He

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was in khaki shorts and his polo, which I believe

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was Virginia Tech colors if I'm not mistaken. So the

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first segment went really well. It was at the visitors Center.

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It was still dark outside, so this one was done

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really really early in the morning at the visitors Center.

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They recorded inside. It was a basic Q and A

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went off without a hitch. Everything was great. Then the

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second segment came about thirty minutes later and it was

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conducted with someone else. It was a gentleman that I

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think his name was Jerry Hale. Don't quote me on

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that one, but again that one went really well. But

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Jerry wasn't able to stay for the third segment because

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he had these meetings that were really important and he's like, look,

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I gotta cut out, I gotta go to these meetings,

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and so he immediately stepped away and left Miss Vicki

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to do the third segment, which was no problem. So

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00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.119
they decided to do this last take on the outside

460
00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.279
of the building because the sun was now coming up.

461
00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:01.519
It was beautiful. They had this beautiful backdrop of the

462
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:04.079
lake and on all the buildings with the sun coming up,

463
00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:05.920
there was like a little golf course or a little

464
00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:08.480
mini golf or something back there too, which is really nice.

465
00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.759
It was about six forty five am when this started

466
00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.319
to take place. So the building was located right on

467
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.039
the water, like I told you, and so they took

468
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:21.599
a position on what I'll call an upper decking or

469
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:26.599
an upper dock area. Bridgewater Plaza looks like a typical

470
00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.839
waterfront business where you would park in the parking lot

471
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.960
but then go up some wooden stairs to a raised

472
00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.559
platform decking with a walkway that kind of goes around

473
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:38.680
to all the different shops. It reminds me if you've

474
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.000
ever been to dustin Florida and you know where AJ's

475
00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:43.519
is that restaurant it looks. It reminds me a lot

476
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.400
of that set up with shopping and food and restaurants

477
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:50.279
and all that. So they're standing really close together. Adam

478
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:53.480
has the big old news camera on his left shoulder,

479
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.400
and he's facing Alison and Vicki, who are obviously in

480
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.359
front of him and facing him. So then the light

481
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.839
comes on and it's time to talk action, and so

482
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.599
they start doing their thing. Miss Vicky is nervous yet

483
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:10.319
very poised, and she smiles as Alison introduced her, and

484
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:13.559
then she broke into her explanation of the events that

485
00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:18.559
were upcoming. Adam's fiance. Remember Melissa Ott, she was back

486
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:21.119
at the station and she's watching this live because she's

487
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.079
the morning producer, and so she's ensuring that everything's going

488
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.920
to go off without a hitch. But about one hundred

489
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.000
yards away, a vehicle had pulled into the parking lot

490
00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.640
and parked, and the man inside the vehicle was up

491
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.039
early too, because he had a lot to do that

492
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:39.119
day as well. He had been planning for some time

493
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.720
his own production that he wanted to put on. He too,

494
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.599
by the way, was a reporter and he had worked

495
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:50.160
at multiple stations in recent times. So he prepared his

496
00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:52.920
things and he exited his vehicle, this mustang that he

497
00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.000
was super proud of, and he walked up the steps

498
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:58.799
and he made his way in the direction of the

499
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:02.079
live segment being filmed by Alison mus Vicki and Adam

500
00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:05.880
So common courtesy, I think we all know this. Common

501
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:09.400
courtesy would be that you not interfere with a live broadcast.

502
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:13.079
And being a reporter himself, the man knew this. This

503
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:18.319
wasn't anything new, but instead of going the opposite direction

504
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.480
or staying out of the way, he grabbed his cell

505
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:25.920
phone and he turned it on to video mode and

506
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:31.119
he filmed as he walked closer to the trio. So

507
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:33.000
the video, I want you to imagine he's now a

508
00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:35.559
video in them in front of him, and the video

509
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:38.039
kind of shifts left to right a bit as he's

510
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.359
walking towards the group. The video is kind of grainy

511
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:44.240
because the cell phone's probably not the best. It's unprofessional,

512
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:49.160
but a reporter that wanted to, I guess, get something

513
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.920
on camera might use a cell phone, and this was

514
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.240
the beginning of his production. So he stops about three

515
00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.000
feet away from them, and he seems to be specifically

516
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:05.839
filming the group when suddenly the unexpected pops into frame.

517
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.960
As he's filming with his left hand, the man's right

518
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:16.599
arm raises up and he points a black pistol directly

519
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:21.039
at Alison, And it's shocking when you see it happen,

520
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.559
You're like, WHOA, what is that? But being focused on

521
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:29.680
the interview she's conducting, she never even notices it. She's

522
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:33.039
holding the microphone. It's up to Mimus Vicky's face as

523
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.440
Miss Vicky is speaking, and he's standing there with the

524
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:40.440
pistol up pointed directly at the reporter and Miss Vicki,

525
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:46.440
but neither one of them notices what is happening. How often, guys,

526
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.480
do you think that news reporters stay professional and on

527
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.039
task when people purposefully try to get in the way

528
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.799
of a newscast. We see this all the time, especially

529
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.279
the Weather Channel, whenever they're out there filming and people

530
00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.839
run behind and do stupid things and all of that.

531
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.440
So this wasn't anything new. They just weren't paying attention

532
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:05.640
to the man that was off to the side of them.

533
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:10.720
He holds the gun pointed at Allison for a few seconds,

534
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.920
and honestly, when you're watching it, it feels like an eternity.

535
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.880
He's only three feet away from them, four feet right there,

536
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:23.960
and then he takes about three steps backwards. So Adam

537
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:28.359
is still filming. The other man with the pistol is

538
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:32.000
over his left shoulder and Adam doesn't see him. Adam

539
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.319
then turns the big camera to the right and he

540
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.319
kind of pans out, filming the sunset over the water,

541
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.480
and the women are continuing to talk each other, and

542
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:45.160
then the man lowers the gun out of frame and

543
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.480
he continues to film the group for a short little bit.

544
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.160
By a short little bit, I mean probably another minute.

545
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.440
The tension, and I don't know if I'm conveying this

546
00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:00.240
to you, but the tension, the complete and utter anxiety

547
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.640
you feel knowing that that man had a pistol in

548
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:10.039
his hand pointed directly at Alison. It's beyond palpable, the

549
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.960
anxiety that you feel. And they have no clue what

550
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.359
danger that they're in. And it's like you're sitting there screaming,

551
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.519
oh my god, look up, he's right there. Look up,

552
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.440
Look up, look up. But they can't hear you. It's

553
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.839
like a train wreck. You can't look away, and they

554
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.920
just can't hear your screaming, and they just continue to

555
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.359
talk with a gun pointed directly at Alison. So the

556
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.480
gunman's bumpy cell phone video continues just for an agonizing

557
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.039
few more seconds. After that, and then once again, that

558
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.160
arm comes back up. It's covered, it's in a blue

559
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.400
and white plaid long sleeve. That arm comes back up

560
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.160
holding the pistol again, and he points it directly at

561
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.400
Alison again. So imagine this, he's pointed at him, He's

562
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.039
filmed himself pointing at at him. None of them noticed.

563
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.440
He puts it down, continues to film him, then pops

564
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:01.119
it back up, but this time comple lately extended out

565
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.759
and right at them. But again Alison never sees it.

566
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.960
She's too focused and being professional. And that's when all

567
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:13.880
hell breaks loose as the man begins pulling the trigger

568
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.880
on live television. And while it happens in seconds, I

569
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.880
had to watch this in slow motion to really understand

570
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.519
what Alison experienced and to adequately explain it to you,

571
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:30.079
because it happens literally in a flash. It's unbelievable, mind you.

572
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.759
Alison and Adam and Vicky never had that luxury of

573
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.160
slowing it down to understand what's going on. This happens

574
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.319
in about twenty seconds from beginning to end, and they

575
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.960
had to react in live time. So the first shot

576
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:50.400
shocks both women, It just shocks them. And whether Allison

577
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.200
was hit or not with that first trigger pull, I'm

578
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.680
really unsure, but she does draw up her shoulders like

579
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.000
you do if you get scared by a loud noise.

580
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.839
So it's boom and her shoulders go up, and she

581
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.079
also at the same time pulls her right hand into

582
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.799
her abdomen and drops her papers and her microphone in

583
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:14.200
the process, and then boom. Another second shot immediately followed,

584
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.000
and Alison, still drawn up her head, turns in the

585
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.359
direction of the shooter while she starts hunching over her

586
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.519
stomach as if she's trying to protect her vital organs,

587
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.400
and then boom again. It's rapid boom, boom, boom. But

588
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:31.240
that third shot follows and Alison by this point has

589
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.119
turned to her left and she's turned and she's trying

590
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.880
to run in the opposite direction of the shooter, and

591
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:41.359
the shooter, who is still filming, begins to run after Allison,

592
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.359
still pulling the trigger, so the camera where he's filming

593
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.440
starts to point downward, and you see a flash of

594
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.440
Allison's feet in those heels or wedges, and she's able

595
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.920
to take about three steps before the camera completely drops

596
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.920
down and you no longer can see or tell what's

597
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.880
happening visually, So as the camera dropped, the gunman moved

598
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.680
his arm to his right where Adam is standing right,

599
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.640
I mean right there, and he pulls the trigger and

600
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:13.160
shoots Adam. Adam never even had time to react because

601
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:17.279
the shooter was standing behind Adam's left shoulder whenever he

602
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.880
began firing, and the massive television camera is resting on

603
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.400
Adam's shoulder. His eyes were focused through that recording screen

604
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.200
at the women. He couldn't see the assailant at all.

605
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.599
So the shooter hits Adam almost point blank in the head,

606
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:37.119
and Adam just drops before he can even react, and

607
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.039
the camera that still recording drops with him, and he

608
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.359
goes boom and it falls down on the camera on

609
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:48.480
the ground, so Adam is instantly killed. He crumples in

610
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.960
the exact same spot where he was standing, never even

611
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:55.319
able to take a step. All of this happening while

612
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.400
Adam's camera never stops rolling. It's on live television, so

613
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.599
viewers are watching this happen. And not only were the

614
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.319
viewers at home watching this happen and trying to process it,

615
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.480
so was Adam's fiance. She's in the newsroom producing it

616
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.160
and she watches Adam just collapse through the view of

617
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:19.079
the camera, so again back in slow motion, explaining this.

618
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.759
Adam falls to the ground with the camera, but it

619
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.240
focuses for a brief second on the shooter and you

620
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:31.839
can clearly see the killer before the camera hits the ground.

621
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.759
So standing over Adam with the gunpointed directly at him

622
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.759
is a light skinned black Mail. He has his mouth

623
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.599
really really tight, pursed in the top and bottom lips

624
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.519
are curled in with like an angry expression like mm,

625
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.440
you know, like when he's pulling the trigger, an angry

626
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.480
expression of force. And he takes another shot at Adam,

627
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.519
hitting him in the torso the head shot was already fatal,

628
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.559
but this one, this one was gonna serve as insurance

629
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.240
of that. So the assailant, who was still holding his

630
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:06.000
own phone filming, continues filming, and you see flashes of

631
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:09.239
dark and then the ground, and then flashes of the dock,

632
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:14.159
and you realize this is the shooter obviously now chasing someone.

633
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.480
As he continues to pull the trigger. His phone never

634
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.320
stopped filming, And what the viewer can't see in all

635
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.719
of that movement is that Alison has been hit multiple

636
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.559
times and although in agony, her adrenaline kept her running

637
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.760
for her life before collapsing as the man chased her down,

638
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:37.599
pulling the trigger over and over and over again, all

639
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.920
while sickeningly trying to film it. It's almost like this

640
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.239
is some sort of trophy hunt for him or something

641
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.159
he might want to share at a later date. Like

642
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.079
he's filming it as he's chasing someone down to murder them.

643
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.639
And while I know that this is a non traditional method,

644
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.800
I've chosen. This is not out of sensationalism. I've chosen

645
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.519
to let you listen to this unfold because it hits

646
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:09.679
different when you realize what you're hearing happening. Literally, someone

647
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.239
is being chased down like a dog. It's not the

648
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.159
full audio from start, from the start of the video

649
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.440
through whenever he gets up to the women. It doesn't

650
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.679
have all of that in there. I'm gonna cut in

651
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.639
with the audio just as the women are chatting and

652
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.840
they're paying him no attention, and then you're gonna hear

653
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:33.400
him start to just unload on these unsuspecting victims and

654
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:38.360
they have no time to even respond or defend themselves.

655
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.559
And his footprints, his footsteps can be heard as he

656
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.719
runs after Allison, continuing to pull the trigger on her

657
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.639
as she's trying to escape. But she's mortally wounded and

658
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:55.920
she never had a chance. So listen for yourself. Be prepared.

659
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.559
These are gunshots. You might not want to have your

660
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.480
volume at full blast. That's what we're saying tourism. We

661
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:19.280
want the people to come here to say that. I

662
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.119
don't know if that strikes you the way that it

663
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:30.480
struck me to hear how quickly this man just shut

664
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.760
all of these people and you don't even have time

665
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:35.039
to wrap your brain around what's happening. Your brain can't

666
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.400
even process what's happening. It's just an automatic knee jerk

667
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:42.119
if you're able to do anything. Alison only made it

668
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.039
about twenty feet before her body gave out and she

669
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:49.639
collapsed just before reaching the door of the building entrance.

670
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.280
The shooter then ran up on her and he fired

671
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.280
even more shots into her already mortally wounded body. Although

672
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:02.480
she was down and clearly in bad shape, she would

673
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.000
be dead before the killer even turned back around. It's

674
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:11.920
so many shots. So Adam lay dead from a gunshot

675
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:13.800
wound to the head into the torso, laying in the

676
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.760
very same spot where he was originally shot. Camera's still rolling.

677
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.039
Don't let that get lost on you. The camera's still rolling,

678
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:24.239
And so the news cuts back to the studio whenever

679
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.440
they realize, oh my god, something horrific has just occurred,

680
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:31.400
and the utter shock on the anchor woman's face. Her

681
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.000
name is Kimberly McBroom. She's literally just frozen with her

682
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.719
jaw dropped down. She's got these big blue eyes, they're

683
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.280
wide open in disbelief, and she just stares at the monitor.

684
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.039
You can tell that this was not planned, not expected,

685
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.039
and she was in shock at what she had just witnessed.

686
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.400
And there's a brief pause of her just jaw drops

687
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.559
staring at the camera. But then, ever the professional, she

688
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.679
quickly gathers herself and she tells the viewers, okay, not

689
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:57.760
sure what happened there, Well, well, of course, let you

690
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.960
know as soon as we find out what those sounds were.

691
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:06.280
And then they just cut immediately to commercial. So simultaneously

692
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.599
as that's happening, back at the scene, Miss Vicki she

693
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.679
had fallen to the ground. She wasn't shot. She fell

694
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.079
to the ground, and she pretended to be dead, hoping

695
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.960
that the shooter would just now leave and bypass her.

696
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.480
But she wouldn't be so lucky because after now Allison

697
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:26.559
was down, he turned around. Instead of just running away,

698
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:31.000
he ran back to Miss Vicki, stood over her, and

699
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:36.480
he shot her directly in the back. In total, there

700
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:42.599
were fifteen rounds fired at the scene before the shooter fled.

701
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:49.920
Nearly forty thousand viewers watched everything unfold live live time,

702
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:55.239
and this also included Franklin County Sheriff Bill Overton, who

703
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:58.159
knew Alison and Adam. He knew them personally because he

704
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.599
had just worked with them weeks earlier on a different

705
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:06.039
clip that was being done, and even he was confused

706
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:07.880
by what had just happened. It didn't make sense that

707
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:12.400
was live television. What the hell? So back at the station,

708
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.039
the film feed, you know, never cut. Even though they

709
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.920
cut to commercial, the film feed from Adam's camera was

710
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:24.400
still there, and so the newsroom, including his fiance, could

711
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:28.440
still hear and somewhat see what was happening at the boardwalk.

712
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.440
Now the camera was laying still on the ground, it

713
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.639
wasn't moving, and only a portion of Adam's arm lay

714
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.360
in sight in front of the camera and he wasn't moving,

715
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:41.719
So what his fiance must have been feeling in that moment,

716
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:45.360
had to have just been surreal, Oh my god, nobody's

717
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.679
moving and he's just laying there. But because they never

718
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:52.239
cut the feed, they could hear emergency responders who arrived

719
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.719
within minutes of what was going on, and they heard

720
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.519
two words that would be haunting a responder who ran

721
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:05.599
by yell three down, y'all, this is seven twelve am

722
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.199
that all of this has taken place. It's seven twelve

723
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.639
am now and viewers who were watching it are now

724
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.039
posting online the news film and trying to armchair quarterback

725
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:20.000
and guess what was going on. So it's now spreading

726
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.440
like wildfire all over the place. And when the police

727
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:27.599
arrived on scene, they found both Adam and Alison deceased.

728
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:32.960
They were beyond saving. Incredibly, though, Miss Vicki was still alive,

729
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:37.199
although in immense pain and in trouble, she was still alive.

730
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.360
So she was loaded into an ambulance and they rushed

731
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.280
her to the hospital where she immediately underwent surgery. And

732
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.239
like I told you, her husband had also been watching

733
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.360
the news live as this whole tragedy unfolded. He wanted

734
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.159
to see his wife on the news and he watched

735
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.039
a shooting breakout, so he rushes to the hospital to

736
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.960
try to go be by her side. Now, the shooter

737
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:03.440
was gone from the scene when the police got there,

738
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:09.039
but they would very quickly have plenty of leads. Everyone

739
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.039
was in shock, everyone was wanting answers, but that was

740
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:14.880
going to take a little bit of time to put

741
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:18.639
it all together. But one person who knew a great

742
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.400
deal about what had just happened was en route to

743
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:27.840
send a very important facts, yeah, a facts. About forty

744
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:32.199
five minutes after the shooting, ABC News in New York

745
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:37.000
received a twenty three page facts that they weren't expecting.

746
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:42.280
The facts seemed to be a manifesto of sorts where

747
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:48.239
a man detailed every perceived act of discrimination against him

748
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:52.480
for his entire life that he felt had happened to him.

749
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:59.000
And he also detailed his admiration for mass killers. So

750
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:03.119
obviously ABC was quick to try to determine the origin

751
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:05.239
of the letter, why it was sent, what the hell

752
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:09.400
is this? And the writer of the manifesto seemed to

753
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.679
be all over the place. It was disjointed at some

754
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.719
points he was just straight ranting, but he did take

755
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:21.760
credit in the facts for the murders on television of

756
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:26.480
Alison and Adam that had just taken place. So obviously

757
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:30.679
this was pre written and was prepared for this attack

758
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.239
that had taken place. But the big question was now,

759
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:36.599
why why did any of this happen? You sent a

760
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.679
twenty three page facts detailing all of your the discrimination

761
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.119
feel was imparted upon you. But what could have possibly

762
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.800
led to this? What makes you go shoot and murder

763
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.519
people on live television? Well, the writer's twenty three pages

764
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.199
were separated into a bunch of different parts, basically a

765
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:58.360
list of all of his complaints against the world. Y'all

766
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:02.119
his grievances dated all the way back to first grade.

767
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:08.760
First grade. That's insane, first grade. I can't remember what

768
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:11.039
happened last week, and you're gonna remember things that you

769
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:15.239
think happened to you in first grade. His appreciation for

770
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.400
mass killers and his anger at some was the next section.

771
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.440
And wouldn't you know this is now the tie in

772
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:28.519
to last week's case, Dylan Ruth. The manifesto directly mentions

773
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:32.639
the June seventeenth shooting of the Charleston, South Carolina church

774
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.599
where Dylan Roof went in and he murdered all of

775
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:41.519
the black churchgoers. He specifically rants on about that, amongst

776
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:45.360
a ton of other things. And then another section was

777
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:49.480
a suicide note that he had written for family and friends.

778
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.760
So as ABC is mulling through the pages of the information,

779
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:55.480
they now are realizing what they have, and so they

780
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.719
go and they alert the authorities in Virginia as to

781
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.400
what all they had just received. Some of the things

782
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.440
that he wrote in there was that he admires, he

783
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:07.400
had great admiration for mass killers, and he felt that

784
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.039
the reason that the world discriminated against him was because

785
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.880
he was a gay black man. He had direct quote,

786
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.920
he says, I've been a human powder keg for a while,

787
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:23.480
just waiting to go boom. So someone who's unhinged is

788
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:26.280
now claiming to be responsible for the murders that just

789
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:29.960
took place on television. So by eight forty five am,

790
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:33.639
the families of Alison and Adam had been notified of

791
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:38.880
their murders. And it was just unbelievable. There's no way

792
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:40.880
I just saw them, you know. Chris is like, I

793
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.320
just just made her breakfast. No, no, no, it wasn't her. No,

794
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:50.000
I we just saw each other. We just spoke. That

795
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.559
was basically the sentiment of everyone as they got the

796
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:59.320
horrific news that Alison and Adam were dead. Alison's boyfriend,

797
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:03.920
basically in shock, went online and he posted the words

798
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:09.320
I am numb. I mean Alison and Adam. Alison had

799
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:13.599
brought balloons that morning to the station. Why because she

800
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:18.800
was celebrating the goodbye of Melissa Ott, Because now that

801
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.199
she and Adam were getting married, she was going to

802
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.079
be taking a job. Because they were getting married, and

803
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.599
they were going to move somewhere else, they were celebrating together.

804
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:31.840
I imagine that all Chris and Melissa, all they could

805
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.639
feel in that moment was just how does this happen

806
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:40.559
to us? Why and why does random violence attack people

807
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.599
that are so innocent, that haven't done anything. But the

808
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.599
fact was that this had been long planned out. It

809
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:52.360
was not random violence. It wasn't by chance, and it

810
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:56.239
certainly could not be called random. But the main question

811
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.639
was now, who is this guy? We know what is

812
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.840
argument was overall, but the question of who is this

813
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.480
was now the big issue, But that would quickly be

814
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.840
quelled because there were two names given in the manifesto.

815
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:14.920
The first name was Vester, not Lester v as in

816
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.840
Victor Vester Lee Flanagan, and that name didn't draw much attention,

817
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.880
but the second name was what stood out, and it

818
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.559
started putting some of the puzzle pieces together because that

819
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:32.639
was the name, Bryce Williams. Well, Bryce Williams was the

820
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.880
professional name that viewers recognized when they were watching the

821
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.320
reporter Bryce Williams on that very same news channel that

822
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:46.679
Allison and Adam worked for. Bryce Williams was the professional name,

823
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.280
but his real name was Vester Flanagan. He put both

824
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.039
of his names on his paper when he faxed it over.

825
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.360
So it was about ten oh five am. They've already

826
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.880
received the fact. By this point, they've already alerted authorities.

827
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:06.280
Everything's coming together. But the phone rings now at ABC

828
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.360
and guess who it was. It was Vester Flanagan. And

829
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.519
in the call, he's now vocalizing I killed him. I

830
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:19.800
killed Alison and Adam, and then he added that the

831
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.920
authorities are now after me. They're all over the place,

832
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.079
and I'm the one who did it, and then he

833
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.840
hung up the phone. So again ABC did their due

834
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.119
diligence and they told the authorities everything that had unraveled

835
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.920
and was happening over the last hour or so. So

836
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.440
now that local police had a name. They were on

837
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:42.079
the hunt for forty one year old Vester Flanagan aka

838
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.480
Bryce Williams. So a little bit about him to give

839
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.920
you a profile of who this man was. Vester is

840
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:52.880
a very light skinned blackmail. He's got freckles on his face.

841
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.159
Who I want to also tell you in his former years,

842
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.280
when he was young, when he was in his twenties,

843
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.239
was a very fit man. He was in shape, and

844
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.800
he liked to take photos of himself in casual yet

845
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:12.760
somewhat sexy photos. So think of him in like his underwear,

846
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:17.760
like like tighty whitey but not whities, you know, like

847
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:22.360
tight underwear. He liked to put on mesh shirts. Very

848
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.679
I'm not gonna say provocative as in pornographic. It's not that.

849
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:28.360
It's just it was very sexy photos that he liked

850
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.960
to take. And he had a great physique. But now

851
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.920
in his forties, physique had filled out more. He was

852
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.440
less toned, his hair was receding a little bit more,

853
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:41.880
and he took a more professional approach to the photos

854
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.039
that he put online. So now he's wearing a suit

855
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:48.199
and he's wearing a tie. He had his hair really short,

856
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.360
he had his edges nice and leaned out, you could

857
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.360
lined out. You could tell that he really cared about

858
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:58.599
his appearance. And while things were moving quickly since the murders,

859
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.800
vester's name was now being blasted all over the TV

860
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.760
and he obviously was armed and dangerous and now wanted

861
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.079
for murder. So within five minutes of the alert going

862
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:12.639
out of who this killer was, Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe

863
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:14.559
was speaking on a bit that they had called. Asked

864
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.639
the governor and he told the public the shooter was

865
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.760
believed to be a disgruntled employee at the news station.

866
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.800
So knowing this, one could obviously see the events weren't

867
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.639
at random, and it begged the question, Okay, if he's

868
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:32.679
a disgruntled employee, what's the connection between him and the victims?

869
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.639
Why did he kill Allison and Adam if he's a

870
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:40.079
disgruntled employee from the news station, Because being mad at

871
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.880
your agency is one thing, but choosing to murder two

872
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.800
other people who were just co workers with you, that's another.

873
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:49.199
It seemed almost personal. I mean, shit, he found the

874
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.159
location where they were, or knew that they were going

875
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.440
to be, and drove there to kill them, specifically on

876
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.400
live television. Well, to answer this, I have to back

877
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:01.800
up a little bit. By a little bit, I mean

878
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.480
like fifteen years. But I've got a back up fifteen

879
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.920
years to lay down some foundational knowledge for you, because

880
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.599
it was the year two thousand, twelve years before he

881
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.559
was ever even hired at the same station as Alison

882
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:18.480
and Adam Whenever. Vester was hired at a station known

883
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:22.599
as w TWC in Tallahassee, Florida to work as a reporter.

884
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.440
But things wouldn't last very long when he got hired

885
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:29.239
there because while Vester interviewed really well, he checked off

886
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.320
all the boxes of what they were looking for to

887
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:34.599
be a good reporter. Once he was hired, he did

888
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:40.119
not meet or maintain expectations. The station ended up firing him,

889
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.800
and on the firing paperwork, they listed multiple reasons why

890
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:48.840
they fired him, including poor performance, misbehavior with regards to coworkers,

891
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:53.599
and the use of profanity on the premises. So Vester

892
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:58.199
adamantly denied these accusations, and he claimed that what really

893
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.079
happened was a producer had called him a monkey, to

894
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:05.000
which he complained, and once he complained, he was then

895
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:09.159
fired in retaliation. So you have two very different stories

896
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.639
about what happened between Vestor and the news station. So

897
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.639
after that firing, he bounced around a few stations before

898
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.639
being hired at WDBJ in Virginia in twenty twelve. Again,

899
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.280
when he went to go interview, he interviewed really well,

900
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:29.440
but right after being hired, the same issues began to arise.

901
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.199
Wouldn't you know. The station went so far as to

902
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:37.000
refer him and it was more of like voluntold, not voluntary,

903
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.320
but they referred him to an assistance program for employees

904
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:42.679
because he was having a lot of what seemed to

905
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:46.280
be emotional problems and problems with coworkers, and they wanted

906
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:48.599
him to sort out these concerns if he wanted to

907
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:52.519
remain employed there. And among their complaints were that he

908
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.880
had poor performance and run ins with his coworkers, and

909
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.719
it was so bad that they said this is mandatory.

910
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:03.800
If you don't go, you will lose your job. So

911
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.599
by December of twenty twelve, not only was he not

912
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.719
performing well, nor was he showing any professional growth whatsoever.

913
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:13.599
So the station gave him a final warning, either fix

914
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:17.079
it or you're gone. Nobody's gonna deal with you anymore.

915
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.960
With what all is happening behind the scenes, and Vester

916
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.880
did nothing of the sort. So by February of twenty thirteen,

917
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.280
the station was over it and they fired him. Well,

918
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.119
rather than just leave and be like, you know what, whatever,

919
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.760
screw y'all and leave, Vester didn't want to do that. Instead,

920
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.760
he decided to act and ask. When I say act

921
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:43.159
and ass, I mean big ass. He threw a hissy fit,

922
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:47.599
going nuts. They had to call the police to escort

923
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:51.320
him off the premises, and right before he was escorted

924
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:54.320
off the premises, he ran up on the station manager

925
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.559
where he gave him a veiled threat. He had a small,

926
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.199
little wooden cross in his hand and he brought it

927
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.199
to the station manager and threw it at him. He

928
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.480
looked him in the eye and he said you'll need

929
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:08.039
this when he handed him that cross, and then the

930
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:12.800
police escorted him off the premises and on his firing

931
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:17.320
paperwork again. The reasons included a long history of work conflict,

932
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:21.639
unsatisfactory job performance, and an inability to work as a

933
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.320
team member, which is crucial in the news it's a

934
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:30.760
news team. He also was pretty problematic for them. He

935
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:36.239
also had constant grievances. Not only were they constant, but

936
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:40.360
they were consistently proven to be unsubstantiated, and they were

937
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:46.840
always racially centered. Vester was always claiming to be the victim,

938
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:50.000
and he would never recognize when he was the problem.

939
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:54.639
So Vester's online persona was interesting to me as well,

940
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:58.719
because while he's claiming that everyone is hating on him

941
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.000
and all this kind of stuff, he's posting those sexy

942
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:05.559
photos of him online and one of his quotes underneath

943
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:07.639
that said, hell, yeah, I've been a paid companion and

944
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:11.960
you wish you could too. So he's kind of just

945
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:16.480
off putting in personality. I guess I don't know if

946
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.599
you're seeing a trend here, but it sure seems that way.

947
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:24.119
So ABC News now back livetime around this time, they

948
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:28.320
connected some additional dots that Vester must have been the

949
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.239
guy that's been contacting them for a few weeks now,

950
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:33.960
saying look, I have a big story for you, but

951
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.360
he wouldn't disclose much else within regards of what that

952
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.800
big story would be. Well, they never reached out to

953
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:42.119
him because it whatever. We're ABC News, we don't care

954
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.400
what you're stupid he is, and they never got back

955
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:48.239
with him. But now they're realizing it was him, and

956
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:50.559
it was looking like he was alluding to something to come,

957
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.960
But how could they have possibly imagined that he meant

958
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.159
he would be the news and be creating it. So

959
00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:01.840
the local news station is in an absolute panic because

960
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.039
now they're wondering if someone is he fixing to come

961
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.039
ambush the rest of us? Is he going to attack

962
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:10.000
the station? Everybody's on high alert. And it's now just

963
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:13.679
now eleven am the same morning like this all happened

964
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:17.679
so quickly, and the state police took a still shot

965
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.960
from the camera when the camera fell when Adam was filming.

966
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:24.119
They took that still shot of the shooter and they

967
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.159
released it. They started blasting that all over the media. Meanwhile,

968
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.639
Vester is now officially on the run. He's been identified,

969
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:35.000
but he is not keeping quiet while doing so, he

970
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.280
is making news of his own and he is releasing

971
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:43.039
information to the public via his personal social media. So

972
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:46.079
while the police are actively looking for him, he goes

973
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:49.159
to Twitter, he goes to his Twitter account and he

974
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:53.079
starts bashing the victims that he just shot and killed

975
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:57.000
on live television. These are his exact quotes that he put.

976
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.880
This was on his Bryce Williams Twitter account. By the way,

977
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:03.880
his professional name at eleven o nine, he posted Alison

978
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:10.719
made racist comments the same minute, but afterwards he posted

979
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:15.679
that EEOC report filed. One minute later eleven ten am,

980
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:18.880
he wrote, they hired her after that question mark. Question

981
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:22.760
mark question mark. One minute later after that, Adam went

982
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.320
to HR on me after working with me one time.

983
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:29.760
And then that same minute, just a little bit later

984
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:32.039
in the minute, he said, I filmed the shooting. Go

985
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:37.079
see Facebook. So he's now trying to get people to

986
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:41.960
go to Facebook. Four minutes later, after he posted all

987
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:47.760
of those sentences, he uploaded his live video of him

988
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:52.199
killing Alison and Adam as well as wounding Miss Vicki.

989
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:56.920
He uploaded it for everyone to see, and anyone who

990
00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:00.159
was scrolling their page would see it because only today

991
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.239
now do we have those warnings of do you want

992
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.800
to watch this? They learned, But when this happened, that

993
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.639
wasn't the fact, and so people were scrolling and when

994
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:12.159
they didn't want to or weren't prepared, they saw live

995
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:18.840
murder taking place. This included Allison's family and adams family.

996
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:26.480
They're families. It was everywhere. Can you imagine someone that

997
00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:30.000
you will love not only being murdered and stolen from you,

998
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:33.400
but then the fucker who did it, filming it and

999
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.199
then posting it online as if this was gonna be

1000
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:40.559
entertainment for the masses, and there was no way to

1001
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.000
stop it. It was a runaway train. Once it's on

1002
00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:45.719
the internet, it is a runaway train. You cannot stop it.

1003
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.360
And it's everywhere. They're seeing their loved ones being murdered.

1004
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.800
The whole world is watching their loved ones be murdered.

1005
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:56.480
And I imagine this to have been such a vulnerable

1006
00:57:56.559 --> 00:58:00.000
moment and they couldn't escape it. It was on disp

1007
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:05.480
play for everyone to see. How disgusting, how disgusting. And

1008
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.840
I don't know if these are the right words, but people,

1009
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.480
the public should not have a right at a wilm,

1010
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:17.039
you know, to see somebody's demise, to be brutalized like that.

1011
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.760
It's not entertainment. It was brutality for the sake of

1012
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:27.320
shock value, and Vester Flanagin was getting exactly what he wanted.

1013
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:31.159
And the people who were suffering were the victims and

1014
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:36.639
their families. It's horrifying if you put yourself in somebody

1015
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:41.599
else's shoes to scroll and see your daughter, your scooter,

1016
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:47.679
your little girl murdered and he just uploads it like

1017
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:52.480
it's a golf tournament. So Vester, now that he's done

1018
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.159
all of his social media stuff, kicks his plan into

1019
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:58.480
high gear, which started with the rental car that he

1020
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:01.599
had gotten weeks prior. There was nothing wrong with his

1021
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.280
personal vehicle, that Ford Mustang that I mentioned. Matter of fact,

1022
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.840
he was still currently driving it, but he was racing

1023
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:11.679
towards the Roanoke Regional Airport in it. So was he

1024
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:14.880
flying or rushing there to go catch a flight to

1025
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.880
skip the country. No, that wasn't the plan. He was

1026
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:20.400
needing to get to their parking garage because he had

1027
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:24.079
stowed that rental car there. It was a silver Chevy Sonic,

1028
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:28.599
So he skirt up in there on two wheels, jumped out,

1029
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:32.119
and switched and got into the Chevy Sonic. The reason

1030
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:34.360
he did that was he was trying to switch the

1031
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:36.360
vehicles to try to throw the police off because he

1032
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:37.800
knew the police were going to be looking for the

1033
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:41.519
Ford Mustang. So he's now flying up Interstate eighty one

1034
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:46.159
where he would make a decision that would tremendously help

1035
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:50.280
law enforcement, even though he didn't mean to. Vester, being

1036
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.679
the braggadocious asshole that he is, decided to send a

1037
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.519
text message to a friend that said I've done something

1038
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.519
really stupid. Stupid I think is a pretty big one understatement,

1039
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:05.199
But this was huge because the police may have been

1040
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:09.280
looking for his Mustang, but they were able to locate

1041
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.360
him via his cell phone from the text that he

1042
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:17.559
was sending, and so the towers were able to they

1043
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:19.679
were able to see which towers the phone was pinging

1044
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.199
off of, and so they could locate his general direction

1045
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:26.760
and then his direction of travel from that information. So

1046
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:29.599
Virginia State Police by this point realized that Vester was

1047
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:32.559
in the rental car, not in the Mustang, and a

1048
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:34.519
BOLO was issued, which is to be on the lookout

1049
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:38.159
for the rental car. So police are now everywhere looking

1050
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:41.400
for this vehicle. So what happens is, so you'll understand,

1051
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:44.679
whenever there's a stolen vehicle or somebody wanted or whatever,

1052
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:48.239
this information gets uploaded into what's called NCIC, which is

1053
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:52.159
the National Crime Information Center Database, And NCIC is a

1054
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:57.079
huge tool for law enforcement. It's basically a criminal records database.

1055
01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:58.960
It's not open for the public or anything. It's just

1056
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.760
for law enforcement agents, and so they can look for

1057
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:05.440
things like stolen property, missing or wanted people, even domestic

1058
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.960
violence protection orders. All of that is uploaded into that NCIC.

1059
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.519
But it's also how license plate readers that are in

1060
01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:16.639
police vehicles can quickly locate these bolowed vehicles that they're

1061
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:19.440
looking for. So you can either call it luck or

1062
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:21.920
you can call it good police work. But at eleven

1063
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.239
thirty am that same morning, a license plate reader that

1064
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.559
was located in a female Virginia State State Troopers vehicle

1065
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:33.719
alerted her that that wanted vehicle listed on the BOLO

1066
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.880
had just passed her. Her license plate reader read it.

1067
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:40.280
So she gets on the interstate and she pulls up

1068
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.760
behind him. Now remember this is a single female state trooper,

1069
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:47.920
and she wanted to verify the license plate and verify

1070
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:51.159
the information before she lit up his car to possibly

1071
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.880
pull him over, because she felt like, and I feel

1072
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:56.360
like it's a legitimate concern that this might cause a

1073
01:01:56.400 --> 01:02:00.639
high speed chase, knowing what's just taking place him down

1074
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:04.440
Interstate sixty six as they neared Washington, and she was

1075
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.599
able to verify this is indeed the tag of the

1076
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:11.760
vehicle that is likely being driven by a killer. So

1077
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:14.400
tactically it made more sense for there to be a

1078
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:17.599
bigger police presence, so she just kind of chilled behind him,

1079
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:22.360
radioed for backup, which arrived right thereafter, and then once

1080
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.000
everybody was in place, she flipped on her lights to

1081
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:28.440
enact the traffic stop, and just as she assumed would happen,

1082
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.639
Vester refused to stop. He continued on in the middle

1083
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:35.280
lane of the Interstate. He did not attempt to slow down,

1084
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:38.719
he didn't attempt to stop. So the troopers are still

1085
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.280
behind him, They've they've got the lights going. They're trying

1086
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:43.239
to get him to pull over, and they're just wanting

1087
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.239
to take him into custody without incident. But based on

1088
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.119
his actions so far, it just wasn't seeming very likely

1089
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:51.280
that that was going to be the case. So as

1090
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.519
they're still continuing behind him, clearly trying to pull him over,

1091
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.599
and he's not pulling over, all of a sudden, his

1092
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:01.920
vehicle jerks and swerves to the left, and it remains

1093
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:05.239
on course to go straight off of the interstate, right

1094
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.519
off of the roadway into the grassy area on the

1095
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.360
side of the road. But he wasn't slowing down, and

1096
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.639
the vehicle drove straight off the highway, bumping through the

1097
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:18.119
grass before slamming into the treeline on the side of

1098
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:22.360
the road, so police swooped in. They approached the vehicle

1099
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:25.199
with absolute caution because they know who they think is

1100
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.119
in this vehicle and they wanted to see who was inside.

1101
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:31.840
So as they eased up closer, safety completely in mind,

1102
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:35.960
they did positively id that that was Vester Flanagan as

1103
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:40.000
the driver of the vehicle, but he wasn't moving. So

1104
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:42.320
as they got closer and they were able to closer

1105
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.719
inspect what was going on, they realized that he was

1106
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:48.079
now suffering from a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head,

1107
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:52.719
so he wasn't dead. Believe it or not, he shot

1108
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:54.360
himself in the head, but was alive. He had a

1109
01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:58.000
light pulse and so they immediately jumped in to apply

1110
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.480
life saving measures for Vessel, which was more care than

1111
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:06.400
he ever extended to his victims. Just shortly before an

1112
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:09.159
ambulance arrived. They loaded him up and they took him

1113
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:13.400
to the Fairfax Hospital near Washington around eleven forty five am.

1114
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.760
So while he's being rushed to the hospital, they now

1115
01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:20.360
start digging through the vehicle to see what's inside, and

1116
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:25.320
they found a wig, a black hat, a shawl, sunglasses,

1117
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.960
a to do list, and they also found three license

1118
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.000
plates inside. So I don't know about you, but that

1119
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:37.239
should us sound like costumes or get away change of

1120
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:39.480
clothes to look like a woman or something of that nature.

1121
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.840
He had a glock, he had six magazines and some

1122
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:49.840
nine millimeter ammunition. Vester had a plan for the entire day,

1123
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:54.119
including his getaway, never imagining that the police would be

1124
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:58.199
able to find him so quickly. But he underestimated everybody

1125
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:01.159
that was involved in this, and that's when he decided

1126
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:05.000
to take the coward's way out, always a victim, never

1127
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:08.320
the problem. He shot himself in the head to avoid

1128
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:11.880
facing the atrocities that he had committed that day, and

1129
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:15.719
as you would expect, that's exactly what he accomplished, because

1130
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.719
he was later pronounced dead at one twenty six pm

1131
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:24.199
in the afternoon that same day, zero accountability for what

1132
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:28.199
had happened. Which should have been a normal day had

1133
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:33.000
turned into complete horror for multiple people. It into the

1134
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:38.800
lives of multiple people. So why did Vester target Adam

1135
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:45.199
and Allison? And here's your answer. Vester believed that he

1136
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:49.039
should have been the face of television and when he

1137
01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:52.719
couldn't get along with anyone at work, including Alison and Adam.

1138
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:57.519
He was fired. He believed in his mind that Alison

1139
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:03.000
was being given his line light that was stolen from him,

1140
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:07.559
and he was mad at Adam because Adam happened to

1141
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:11.199
be filming whenever he threw his hissy fit, acted a

1142
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:14.599
complete and total ass, and had to be escorted off

1143
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:18.199
the premises. When he was fired, Adam happened to be filming,

1144
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:23.000
so he saw Adam. He flipped at him off when

1145
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:26.199
that happened, was yelling at him and screaming and hollering,

1146
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:29.920
just making you know, gestures and yelling at Adam, ad

1147
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:33.599
at Adam because he was getting fired. His whole plan

1148
01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:39.320
was for him to end his perceived rivals and give

1149
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:44.880
himself the limelight during their undoing. It's one of the

1150
01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:50.039
most selfish acts I've I'm serious, that is one of

1151
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:55.119
the most selfish things that I've ever heard of. And

1152
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:58.480
in an effort for him to be regarded as the

1153
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:03.039
good employee in and to do something and that he

1154
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:07.920
was victimized by these horrible people, he spent the days

1155
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:11.960
leading up to the murders posting photos of himself from

1156
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:15.440
his life and his good works, only the highlights of

1157
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.480
the good things that he could put on the internet.

1158
01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:23.039
He showed himself the best light, and then he posted

1159
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:26.519
lies about his victims, the people he just murdered, because

1160
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.079
now they were dead and they were unable to dispute

1161
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:33.079
the claims. That is sick. That is such a coward move.

1162
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:39.000
In the facts that Vestor sent, he was trying to

1163
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.719
justify the murders that he committed, and these are his words.

1164
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:46.159
He said. Okay, so the big question is why, Well,

1165
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:49.360
after I compiled well over one hundred pages chronicling the

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hurt in my life, I asked myself, why not that's

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what you regard to human beings lives as why not

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01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:05.159
discuss His main claims were that black men and white

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01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:09.760
women caused him problems, and then he added direct quote

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01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:14.639
that he was somewhat racist against blacks, whites, and Latinos.

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He even said that the initials of the victims from

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01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:20.920
the Mother Emmanuel church shooting were on his bullets. Let

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01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:23.279
me tell you something, those people that were victimized in

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01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:25.920
that church would never have condoned that those were people

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01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:28.800
of God. They would not have wanted that. I don't

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01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:31.359
care if you're trying to act like you're getting vindication

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01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.199
for them. Those people wouldn't have wanted that. That's not

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01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:38.439
in their heart. That's no better than Dylan Rufe's symbolism

1179
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:41.520
of his eighty eight bullets for his white supremacy. Y'all

1180
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:46.279
are both hateful racists. No sane human being ever would

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01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:51.760
say these next sentences either. Vester said that the shooter

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01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.840
of Virginia Tech, that that was his boy, that he

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01:08:56.319 --> 01:09:00.000
threw out all of the kudos for the Columbine shooters.

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It's it's bizarre and it's not right. And incredibly, as

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all of this is playing out on national television, another

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01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:10.760
media person was watching and the hair on the back

1187
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.560
of his neck stood up too. This guy's name was

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01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:19.479
Don Schaeffer, and he looked at the TV, stunned that

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he was looking at Vester Flanagan. Why was he stunned

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01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:26.359
because Vester had worked for him in the past. Don

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01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:29.399
was a news director at x ETV in San Diego.

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He had hired Vester, and he realized, oh my god,

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01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:36.640
this is a big mistake. Because of all the problems

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01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:39.920
Vester had. Don realized that this guy was an issue

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01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:43.920
and that Vester's personality was the problem, not other people.

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01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:48.239
So he ended up firing Vester, and then vest had

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01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:54.119
turned around and sued Don alleging guess what, racial discrimination.

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But again, as usual, the whole lawsuit was dismissed. Why

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because the courts recognized that everything Vester said was nonsense

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and that nothing substantiated anything Vester ever claimed. Another man

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01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:10.840
stood there, wide eye. You're not gonna believe this. This

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01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:15.359
one person. Another guy was wide eyed watching this. His

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01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:18.880
name was Brandon Foster, and he's going holy shit as

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01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:23.239
he's watching it happen because just days before he had

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01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:25.000
had a run in with Vester. Now, I want you

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01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:26.720
to know something. This has nothing to do with news

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01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:30.960
or a job. He was driving down the road when

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01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:35.159
Vester started driving like a maniac, swerving in and out

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01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:38.000
of traffic, almost hitting people. And so when they pulled

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01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.920
up at a stoplight, Brandon Foster rolled the window was like, say, dude,

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01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:44.359
you need to calm down. You're gonna kill somebody. What

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01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:48.640
are you doing? It was so wild he even posted

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01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:51.279
it on YouTube. Okay, that's how crazy this driving was.

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01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:54.800
And Vester, rather than saying you know what, my bad,

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01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:57.000
I'm having a bad day or being like whatever, dude

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01:10:57.039 --> 01:10:59.600
and ignoring him like an adult would say sorry, my

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01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:03.319
bad whatever. Rather than that happening, Vester then decided to

1218
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.920
stalk Brandon follow Brandon. And this wasn't just a follow,

1219
01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:10.199
this was an aggressive following, trying to scare him. Weaving

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01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:13.640
in and out of traffic. Vester had even stopped moving

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01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.439
traffic with his vehicle to get out to yell and

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01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:21.159
scream and holler at Brandon. Now it didn't turn violent,

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01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:23.359
I mean, it was all said and done, but it

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01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:25.680
was completely out of pocket for a grown ass man

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01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:29.600
to behave. All of these people had these interactions with

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01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:33.800
the same guy. The common denominator in all of the problems,

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01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:36.119
and what it all boils down to is a person

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with a victim mentality, a perpetually angry person who's looking

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01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:45.479
for others to blame for their shortcomings. And y'all, I

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01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:47.199
know I ain't perfect. I'm not going to stand here

1231
01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:49.159
and act like I am. I've never claimed to be.

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But I'll be damned if I'm gonna walk this earth

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01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.520
and not take responsibility for my actions when I screw up,

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01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:58.279
because that's what I do. When I mess up, I

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01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:00.920
try to fix it. I don't go blaming other people.

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I have to even add this in there, just I

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01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:04.960
didn't say it, but I have to add this in

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01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:08.399
Vester was so unhinged. Listen what he did. He threw

1239
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:12.039
a fit at work, okay, on one of the job

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01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:15.960
sites because an intern leaned in and asked him if

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01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.479
he wanted to swing by for lunch, and Vester took

1242
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:24.840
that comment and turned that into like a discriminate, discriminatory argument,

1243
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:28.000
alluding to the fact that monkeys swing and so this

1244
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:32.119
intern must have meant that about him. And I'm like, dude,

1245
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.640
chill out, Jesse Smollett, like, you need to cool your jets.

1246
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:37.439
Everybody ain't after you. Bro. You are making a mountain

1247
01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:40.600
out of a molehill. Everything about this dude's personality is

1248
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:45.640
a total and complete shit show. Absolute shit show. Even

1249
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:47.640
when you're starting to make all the complaints about the

1250
01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:50.279
fact that he was gay, his own family and friends

1251
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.000
like these people came out and were talking about him.

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01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:58.760
And one example was a person named guy Nell Flanagan,

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01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:01.000
who I think that was an aunt. I'm not one

1254
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:03.760
hundred percent certain on that, but she did an interview

1255
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.960
with The Daily Mail Online and said Vester's sexuality wasn't

1256
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:10.720
a secret in our family. Everybody knew that. Nobody cared,

1257
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:13.359
and she even added this, I thought it was kind

1258
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:15.399
of funny. He's not the only gay person in our family.

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We personally couldn't care less. Nobody cares. Only Vester cared

1260
01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:22.760
about what he thought other people cared about. He projected

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01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:26.960
his own problems on other people. Your workplace hired you

1262
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:29.840
on the premise you would be a good reporter. You weren't.

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01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:35.760
You caused problems everywhere you were hired. You caused problems

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01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:38.560
amongst people that didn't care or have a problem with you.

1265
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:42.960
You made it a problem. And by the way, Vester

1266
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went and purchased the guns that he used to murder

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Allison and Adam two days after the Dylan Ruth shooting.

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That's whenever he started all of this enacting of his

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01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:56.600
final plans. And he wrote on there there's some expletives

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and I don't know what they are because they were redacted,

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01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.399
But in one of his writings that says, for you,

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01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.880
Dylan Ruth, you explative. I don't know what the word is.

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01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:07.199
You want a race war, explative, bring it, bring it?

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01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:09.600
Then you white and then explative. I don't know what

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it is. You can fill in the blanks. It doesn't matter.

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01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:14.840
It was stupid. So he says that Dylan Ruth's actions

1277
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:17.199
pissed him off and that you know, if Dylan wanted

1278
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:18.720
a race war, he was going to give you one.

1279
01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:22.399
The problem is you're the problem. You and Dylan are

1280
01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:24.800
the problem. The rest of us want to get along.

1281
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:29.520
Y'all are the problem. So when you when I mentioned

1282
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:33.199
that one person's actions can affect the lives of so many,

1283
01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:34.920
I hope you can see how I got where I

1284
01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:38.359
am today with this episode. And I thought that this

1285
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:41.560
was kind of awesome. Rather than let Alison and adams

1286
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:46.479
deaths be in vain, Allison's boyfriend Chris decided to go

1287
01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:49.119
big or go home. And what he did was he

1288
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:55.279
decided to run for office. And whenever he ran for office,

1289
01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:58.359
he decided he wanted to enact legislation, and he made

1290
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:00.880
it to by the way he was elected. He decided

1291
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:06.560
that he wanted to introduce legislation that would prevent potential

1292
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:13.439
employees from suing former employees that share negative information about

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01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:17.439
their past violent or threatening behavior, because his point in

1294
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:21.560
all of this was that sharing this information could have

1295
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:25.319
potentially saved Alison and Adam's lives. And I have to say,

1296
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:27.960
I think that's pretty cool. People are afraid they're going

1297
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.399
to get sued if they say anything bad. That legislation

1298
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:33.800
would have prevented that. That's where you put your money

1299
01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:36.039
where your mouth is. That's how you make a difference,

1300
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:39.560
and that's how he made Alison's life or loss of

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01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:44.479
life not be just for nothing. He made something out

1302
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:51.000
of it. Vester Flanagan killed two good people simply because

1303
01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:54.119
he was jealous, because of the color of their skin

1304
01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:59.000
and because of their likable personalities. Imagine being that horrible

1305
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:01.159
of a human being that would cause you to want

1306
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:06.159
to kill somebody. There's a difference between reporting the news

1307
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:09.960
and hijacking investor, and it's pathetic that the best you

1308
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:13.159
could do was to create tragedy live on air because

1309
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:17.840
being irrelevant wasn't dramatic enough for you. You never were

1310
01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.720
a reporter. You were a bitter failure with a camera

1311
01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:26.039
making noise. But as the age old saying goes, bad

1312
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.039
news travels fast, just like that car didn't to the

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01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:43.079
tree line.