Aug. 14, 2024

Slices of Betrayal

Slices of Betrayal

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In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ delves into the chilling disappearance of Tara Lynn Grant. Her high-profile job and husband Stephen's suspicious behavior sparked a mystery that ended with the harrowing discovery of Tara's dismembered remains in Stephen's garage.

Timestamps
14:26 Reporting Tara Missing
18:17 Law Enforcement's Initial Suspicions
20:59 Detectives' Gut Feeling
32:07 Uncovering Stephen's Email Bombshell
41:35 Discovery in the Garage
48:53 Stephen's Arrest and Confession
56:34 False Public Image Exposed
1:10:32 Macabre Scene at the Park

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast. Or I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all's kJ

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here back for an other episode of Unspeakable. What are

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y'all doing today? I had a long day of back

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at school today, and I said, you know what, I

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got a record after school, so I'm putting in. I'm

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putting the work for y'all today. I've got a great

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episode two. I'm pretty excited. I've got some shout outs

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though before I get started, and I've got some people,

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My people in Louisiana are showing up and showing out.

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I'm gonna start with you, Miss Michelle Dixon in Springfield, Louisiana. Hey, Michelle,

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what is up? I'm so glad to have you join

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my team, as well as Evan Jackson and Alexandria Louisiana. Hi, Evan,

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how are you doing? I don't have a lot of

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male presence in uh in my in my repertoire here,

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so I'm always excited when I see the men come

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come swooping in right. So, Hey Evan, I'm glad to

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have you. I've also got from Union City, Indiana, Miss

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Karen Shoemaker. Hey Karen, and I like the way you

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spell it. You spell it different, ka R I N

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that's different. Welcome, welcome. And then I've got here another

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let's see in Texas. Jennifer Phillips. Hi, Jennifer. I had

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a friend in high school named Jennifer Phillips. I don't

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know are you the same one? Did you move, Jennifer?

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Is that you either way? Hey girl? Thank you so much.

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And then Ashley Rodriguez, girl, you right here in my

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backyard in Denim Springs. Hey, Ashley. When my local people,

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you know, when y'all support me, I don't know how

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else to say, but when my local people support me

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and believe in me, it just it means the world.

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It's it's it's awesome. And then to tickle to tickle

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my fancy. In the opposite direction is when someone all

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the way from Clovis, California, Miss Veronica. You didn't put

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your last name, but Veronica in Clovis, California. Holy shit,

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all the way in California. Hey, hey girl, how are

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you Veronica? How's the weather? I feel like everyone in

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California is like cooler than me. I don't know, y'all

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get to like have beach and and there's like everybody's

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in California. I don't know. So thank you so much.

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And then last, but not least, is gonna be Candace.

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And Candace again, I don't you didn't put a last

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name here, but if you are Candace in Sandy Hook, Mississippi, girl,

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I'm talking to you, Hi, Candace. I've got so many

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people to thank for their continued support. I've got more

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shout outs that are gonna come next episode, so hang

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in there. I don't want to bombard you with forty

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five names, so I'm gonna do them a little bit

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at a time. But each one of you matters, and

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each one of you are very special to me. Please

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talk to me on Patreon. It's me, y'all. It's absolutely

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me talking to you. I just was speaking to a

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to a friend online here and I messaged her right back.

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I say, a friend a listener, and I messaged her

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right back and she said, oh my god, I'm fangirling, y'all.

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It's me. It's just me. So if you need anything,

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if you have a question, if you have a suggestion

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for an episode, reach out, let a girl know, and

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you never know, I might jump right on it right then.

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This one, though, we're gonna be in Michigan. We're going

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all the way to Michigan this week, and so this

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one's gonna go out to Michigan with Miss Tara Lynn Grant.

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That is who we're talking about today. She was born

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on June twenty eighth, nineteen seventy two, to proud parents

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Mike and Kim. Now this is not going to be

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a nineteen seventy two case. This is a closer to

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our time case. But she was the youngest of the bunch,

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and while she had a happy childhood there were no

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complaints about childhood. Her parents' marriage did ultimately not last,

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and so her parents separated whenever she was a kid.

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But this was a testament to her she did not

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let that hold her down, she continued to just be

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an absolute success. She strived for just greatness in everything

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that she did. She grew up in Rock and she

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attended Mid Peninsula High School where she was an active

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student and she participated in things like cheerleading and she

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was a liked kid. She did really well in school.

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And after she graduated high school, she enrolled in Michigan

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State University and her focus was to study in business administration.

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What was her focus in that business admin marketing? Now,

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let me tell you something about people in marketingccess tful

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people in marketing all seem to have these similar traits

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about them, and I think that this lends itself to

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who Tara was. When you look at people that are

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in marketing and do really well, you're looking at extroverted, energetic, creative, adventurous,

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but also assertive people. You know, you have to be

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able to live out loud and to have ideas and

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live outside of the box and draw people in. But

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you also have to have, you know, a practical essence

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to you that you you know, you're assertive and you

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have things that they need to go this way and

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this is the only way we can do it. To

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make it successful, and Tara fit the bill. She got

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her degree. She graduated in nineteen ninety four and eventually

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she went to work for Washington Group International, which is

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headquartered in Boise, Idaho. Now, professionally speaking, she was a

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rock star. Professionally, she knocked it out of the park. Physically,

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she was a thin little thing.

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She was.

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She had this tiny frame, curly ringlets. Her hair's kind

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of shoulder length. She has brown eyes, and she's got

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a small little button nose, a cute little nose. She

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dressed in the photos of her when I'm trying to

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figure her out, she dressed casually, comfortable in most of

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the pictures I saw, which were, you know, pretty colors,

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and it was giving, as the kids would say, it

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was giving Anne Klein vibes if you know fashion wise

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what I'm talking about. She liked thin sweaters with a

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scarf or a bright colored collared top with a nice

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over jacket. Well put together, organized and a perfectionist flare

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to her. Now relationship, she met Stephen Grant in college

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and they quickly became an item. They say this, and

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we all know it, Opposites attract, Okay, So he was

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a bit awkward and He was socially kind of off

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and odd. To be honest, you know, I'm just I'm

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shooting from the hip, y'all. Okay. He was a kind

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of a little strange bird. But he liked her and

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she liked him back. They just had these different qualities

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about them. Now looking at him, he was an average

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looking guy. One thing I did notice about him was

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he had big eyeballs. And I don't know why they

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stood out to me. Be kind of has those big eyeballs.

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My niece has big eyeballs. If she's listening to this,

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she's probably getting mad at me right now for saying that.

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But just big eyes. And you know, he was kind

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of on the door kier side, and nothing that would

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really make you, I think, look twice or anything. But

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just an average looking dude. His dreams were one day

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to work in politics. He was very driven by the

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political world, but he would never finish his degree. That

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though it didn't bother Tera, she didn't care. She loved him.

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He didn't have to graduate to be on par with

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her necessarily in terms of education. She loved him for him,

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and he loved her for her. He was attentive to

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Tara through their relationship, and it progressed, it continued to blossom,

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and that led him to propose at the Detroit Institute

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of Arts. So I was kind of wondering, why did

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he pick there? You know, that's kind of odd, maybe

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not odd, but that's different. And the answer is actually

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really sweet. Tara loved art, she loved it, and so

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he thought that that was the perfect fit for the

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proposal to the woman of his dreams. So they got

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married and by two thousand and three they had two children,

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were settled in nicely to the daily rush of life

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right there in Michigan. But their setup was a little

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bit non traditional. Tara was the breadwinner, big time breadwinner,

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and that meant that her job had her traveling a lot.

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And when I say a lot, I don't mean she

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was running down the road an hour away, or you know, hey,

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I have to go on a quick two day trip. No,

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she was like setting. She was going to London, she

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was going to Puerto Rico. She was flying all over

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for her job. But Stephen decided, look, I can be

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a stay at home dad. I don't have you know,

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he wasn't too proud for that. I'll be a stay

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at home dad. He said, I'll be the primary caretaker

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of the children so that Tara could go make that coin.

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And she was traveling, and honestly, she was good at

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what she did, and so it just worked well for

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their family. She was gone often, so Stephen, you know,

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was happy. He loved it. He loved taking care of

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his children. And when people would talk to him about

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what his life was like, he'd say, look with pride.

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He'd say, I'm mister mom. You know, my wife travels

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for a living, and so she flies in and out,

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and so I'm the mister mom daily. And I want

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to say this though, Tara loved their children. She loved

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her babies, and she was by no means absent mother.

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I would say she was more of a busy mother

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who was willing to sacrifice for the sake of her family.

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This was not a woman who dumped her kids off

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and then went and had fun in other countries. No, ma'am.

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She loved her children. She was very active in their lives.

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She just traveled more than the average bear. But by

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two thousand and seven, their children were now no longer

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little toddlers, little babies. The children, and I'm gonna tell

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you this I will name the children in this episode,

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and there's a reason for that that well, I'll get

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to later. So they have been in the public eye

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more than people might realize. So I don't feel like

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I'm being uncovering their names in some sort of malicious way,

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because they actually speak and are on social platforms and

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things like that. So in two thousand and seven, there

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was seven year old Lindsay and there was five year

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old Ian, and Steven knew that he had a catch

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in his wife Tara. She was a freakin' When I

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say stone cold fox, I don't necessarily mean, like, you know,

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a supermodel, but I mean she was whole package. Smart,

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she had tenacity, she was driven and homegirl wasn't scared

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to travel. She'd be out there jumping on those planes,

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getting from A to B and making that coin. So

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there was routine and there was absolute stability in their home.

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That's why it was rather odd when Tara stopped answering

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her phone in early February of two thousand and seven.

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She had just come in. She had just gotten off

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of a plane from Puerto Rico, where she had been working,

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and her recent schedule was she was flying into San Juan.

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She was working Monday through Friday, and then she would

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just jump back on a plane, fly home for the weekend,

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spend time with the family, and then she would fly

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back out again on Monday morning. So she was moving

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around a lot, so hectic, Yes, lucrative job, absolutely killing

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it professionally one hundred percent. Looking kind of into the

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family life. It wasn't that they had anything different from

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the rest of us. I mean, all couples have disagreements,

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and they had had just recently a rather larger one.

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But to ignore Steven's calls was just not her. That

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was not something she would do. She would be aggravated,

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but she would still answer the phone. So Tara told

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Stephen that she was going to have to return early

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on that weekend that she flew in. She said, look,

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i'mna have to fly back out on Sunday rather than

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on Monday. And so they got into an argument about it.

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Understandable frustration because I mean, she's gone a lot, and

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Stephen was kind of like, okay, look, mad Is okay,

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we can fight. Mad Is Okay. It just means you care,

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But to ignore your family and not answer your phone

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is not cool. So he got aggravated, and eventually Stephen

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left a voicemail on her.

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Phone, going on, I think you're on me and kids.

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The next flight and all.

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Was going on.

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But this voicemail he left remained unanswered. And y'all, you

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know we all do. As time goes on, you become

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increasingly alarmed, like okay, it's it's really not cool anymore.

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But she was angry with him. However, it just this

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wasn't normal. She's not gonna do this. And we y'all,

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we know our family, we know our friends. You know

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what someone's gonna do, you know what their limits are,

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and you know when it's just not right. So Stephen

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continued to call Tara for a few days and she

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still was not answering. So eventually he's like, all right,

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enough's enough. He picks up the phone and he makes

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a phone call to her boss in Puerto Rico. But

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he's like, look, I haven't seen her. She left to

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go home. She did not make it back. So he

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called her family, who you know. When he talked to them,

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they felt like, well, maybe she's needing some extra time.

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She'll cool off. You know, sure it's been a minute,

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but maybe he just really pissed her off, something good,

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you know, this time, and he kind of went along

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with it. But after five days, five days, no, come on,

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five days, Steven had enough and he went to the

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police and is like, look, my wife Tara is missing

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now when he went to go report her missing. This

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took place on Valentine's Day, a day that should be

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you know, loving and filled with flowers and candy, and

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now it was looking pretty bleak for Stephen and their

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kids because mom was missing. But you know this, we

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all know this as true crime. You know, people, adults

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are allowed to go missing. You're a grown ass adult.

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You are allowed to abscond and run away if you

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want to. The thing about this case that's kind of different, though,

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is that y'all. She is a super successful executive, big

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time making big money, and it just does not ring

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true that this person would not show back up to work.

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She may be pissed off as hell at Steven, but

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she's still going to go to work. She's not gonna

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just totally leave. So her absence was kind of this

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seems a little bit sketch. So that was turned over

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to detectives because a small fight shouldn't typically result in

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someone not being seen or heard from for five days.

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I mean, I can be an ass, y'all, I'm telling

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you straight up. I mean I can go a day

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or two and ignore you. That's fine, But I mean

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it's not your immediate family, you know, where you have

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children involved. So remember she's a loving mother. She is

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a successful professional, and she knows her importance not only

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the home but as well in the workforce. And she's

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not just gonna jump up and lead these people. Something

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was not adding up. So detectives had some more questions

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for her husband, Steven, and they wanted to try to

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see Okay, well let's talk about the argument. That's you know,

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the red flag here. That's way, then let's talk about it.

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Steven was open and honest with it. He said, Look,

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she came home. I was upset. I didn't want her

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to leave out a day early. She had just gotten back,

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and the last time that I saw her was right

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after we argued. He wanted her to stay. She was

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leading early. It just blew up. He just was in

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a bad spot. She got mad, and he said the

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last thing he remembered was Tara picking up her bags

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and that she headed down their driveway to a car,

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which he said was like a He didn't say these words,

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but I'm gonna say it kind of like an uber lyft.

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It was a car service, and that it was black.

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She got in the car, the car drove away. He said,

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I've been calling her ever since. She's not answering the phone.

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So for a little, a little perspective, here, a little

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insight to this. Here is why missing adults are not

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usually a rush to judgment situation. Other than the fact

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that you're a grown adult and you can do what

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you want. I wanted to give you a little more

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hard data on this. Between twenty sixteen and twenty nineteen,

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listen to this number, ninety five percent of adults that

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were reported as missing, it was solved within a month,

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ninety five percent were figured out and found, ninety eight

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percent were closed and figured out within a year. So,

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you know, put that into medical perspective. If the doctor's like, Nona,

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I'm ninety eight percent sure you'll be fine. You're kind

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of feeling good about it. You know that we'll figure

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this out. So, according to World Population dot Com, if

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y'all live in California or Texas, y'all better watch y'all's backs. Okay,

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because that's where a majority of people go missing, is

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in California or Texas. Now that's based on like you know,

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hard numbers. But Alaska has the highest rate of missing

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people per population. So this was Michigan too, so they

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don't have a high missing person rate by state. Statistically,

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we find these adults, especially in the neighborhood that they

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lived in. Okay, So she lived in extremely low risk lifestyle.

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I know right now, you're like, well, it's risky getting

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on a plane. That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about.

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She didn't do drugs. She wasn't now you know, prostituting

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on the street or anything. She had a low risk lifestyle.

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She lived in an expensive neighborhood. They both had brand

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new cars in the driveway, and her children were in

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private school. It just doesn't scream, I won't answer the phone.

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And the detectives agreed. That's why they were like, I

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don't know, man, we might need to dive into this

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one a little quicker. So Detective Sergeant Pam McLean and

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her partner, Detective Brian Kozlowski immediately felt like while Steven

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was talking with them, they just gut instinct felt like

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his responses were off. So not everyone is going to

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respond the same way. This was just a guttural feeling

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from the two of them that the vibe was he

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didn't pass the vibe check all right, So what made

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them feel this way? Well, when they went to the

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home to ask basic questions about what had happened, Steven

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was readily available to help, but they said he was

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super fidgety. And then they noted that he was overly cooperative.

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Overly cooperative and that, my friends, is always interesting because

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this is also what someone who is lying or leaving

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information out. They tend to do that whenever they're being

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questioned because oftentimes these people are trying to establish an alibi,

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and in an f to do so, they give way

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too many details that the average person who is under

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stress of their spouse missing, you know, they wouldn't be

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giving all of this. But these people, if they're lying,

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will give a lot of detail because they believe in

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their mind it makes them more believable. So an example like,

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you know, where were you at this time? Oh, I

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don't know. I was in the house. I went to

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the fridge. I got maybe six or ten grapes. You know,

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I ate those. I put them back in the fridge. Like,

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who the hell is going to tell you how many

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grapes they ate? What a weird thing to say. So,

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you know, that just kind of caught the attention of

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the detectives that he was being so incredibly detailed about

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what he was doing, and he was just so nervous

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that it was just eye catching. But remember, when you're

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doing this type of investigation, you still have to be

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somewhat delicate, because the man did just presumptively lose his

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wife in some way, and this is just a gut instinct.

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Nothing else pointed his direction. Obviously they were fighting, they

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weren't getting along, so curious to that extent, they wanted

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to know how many other immediate players in their family life.

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You know, how many more immediate players are there in

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this home that we might need to talk to? And

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so who all was in the house and who all

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are her close family and friends. So Stephen said, well,

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I mean, we live here, our kids live here, and

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we also have a nanny. But the nanny did not

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live there full time. She only lived there partially throughout

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the week. Basically, when Tara wasn't there, so this wasn't odd.

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Gathering a little bit more about this nanny. She was young.

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She was eighteen years old and her name was Verana Dirks.

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So I heard some people say Verena, verena whatever, tomato, tomato.

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So she looks like the average eighteen year old girl.

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Something kind of interesting about her is that she was

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German and she was just living in the States temporarily,

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so she had dark hair, her bangs swept over kind

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of in front of her eyes in the photos of

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that time. I mean, obviously people change, but at that

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time she had kind of an edgier haircut, kind of

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like today's wolf cut. And the photos totally give off

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these this Avril Levine air to them. I remember Avril

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when she was kind of in her punk kind of stage.

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So youthful is my point, young and free compared to

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the very successful and established Terra, she didn't seem at

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all an issue. There's a young girl that was helping

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to nanny the kids. But Lord have mercy if I

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am not jaded, because as soon as I hear the

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word nanny, all I can think of is, oh, hell,

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I don't know if you did too, but oh, Jesus.

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But I'm telling you there really wasn't much to her

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and her role in the life was minimal other than

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you know, picking up the kids, taking them here there,

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you know, fixing a sandwich. Like I said. She did

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live the home off and on, but that was just

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while Tara was gone. There was no secret to this.

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She was, you know, part of the family arrangement. She

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had her own room, her own bed Latida. So police

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questioned close family who they felt could give them more

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insight to what she was like, and they agreed that

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this was completely and utterly out of the blue. There

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was no history of problems in the marriage that they

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knew of. There was no domestic violence, there was no

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anything that they could say, yeah, you know, this is

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a problem. A matter of fact, Tara's mother spoke to

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her on February the fourth, and Tara was talking about

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how excited she was, she was looking forward to a vacation.

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She was expressing how tired she was and just she

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needed a break from work. So Tara wanted to come

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back home. She wanted a break. So maybe after the fight,

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you know, Tara decided to just leave for the vacation.

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Is what someone might say, but that's not what you know.

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That's not now what Steven said. Stephen said, No, she

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was leaving and her goal was to go back to work.

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She was not going on a vacation. Plus, Tara loved

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being with her children, you know, they biked and they

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hiked and they played together whenever she was home. She

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didn't want to just leave her kids and go on

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a vacation by herself. And that's not something she would

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have done. Even if she was pissed off to the

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end of the earth at Stephen and just went crazy,

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she still would have taken her children on vacation with her.

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So it literally seemed like Tara had left and just

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not returned. But there was just problems with this scenario.

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Number One, even if she did just run off, she

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would need money. She would have to have money. You

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can't survive in this world without money, and no money

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was being spent by her out of their account. She

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would have flown out. If she jumped in the car

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she was going to catch that plane, she would have

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flown out, right. So police checked her flight records to

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see if she had caught the flight, and guess what,

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she would have flown out, you know, she was supposed

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to go catch this plane. She was packing her bags

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for the trip back to work whenever they had their argument.

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So I mean, she was going somewhere, and she had

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these children that she greatly loved. So police said, all right,

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let's go check into her flight records. Let's see if

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she in fact actually caught the flight back to San Juan.

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This was expected to be on February the twelfth, okay,

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but she never boarded the plane. The flight would have

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been scheduled for February the ninth for her to fly

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back out. So you know, she wasn't reported missing until

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Valentine's Day, So where has she been all of these days?

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If she never even got on the plane. Here's the

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other rut row we're gonna hit. All cell phone usage

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stopped after the day she left the house in the

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uber car, So you know, this whole situation isn't looking good.

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And obviously she has not been in contact with anyone.

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So moving down the list of possible motive or influence

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in this case, police found that Stephen had made a

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phone call to Tara's work, as he had already stated,

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but the pretenses were a little different than how he

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had presented it. He said he was calling to check

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and see if she had flown back to work. But

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after more questioning, it turns out Stephen thought that Tara

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might be having an affair at work, and so he

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had called the man at work that he suspected she

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was having an affair with, So, you know, is she

460
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with you? It wasn't just hey, do you know where

461
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:53.599
my wife is? She hasn't shown up. But looking further

462
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:58.960
into this, there was no evidence, zero goose eggs of

463
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.559
an affair that had happened with this man. Those aren't

464
00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:05.640
Stevens' words, by the way, those are Those are mine, Like,

465
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:09.200
there was nothing I ever found that suggested she was

466
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:14.960
having a literal physical affair with someone. So, while initially

467
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:20.440
overly helpful, remember as time progressed and the police kept

468
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:24.079
questioning and going back, he became a little less helpful

469
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:32.960
to the police. So that willingness to help reduction really

470
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.240
you know, took off. Whenever he was stopped for a

471
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:40.079
traffic stop on February the fifteenth, so the day after

472
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:44.880
Tara was marked as missing, he was found to be

473
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.599
driving under a suspended license license whenever he was pulled over,

474
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.240
And so this resulted in his arrest. Now, he felt

475
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.839
like the arrest was ridiculous and that this was just

476
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.279
a ploy for police to be able to get him

477
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:03.519
into an interrogate room. Well, the reality was that he

478
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.319
was actually driving with a suspended license, and so they

479
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.240
had every right to arrest him. Now did they use

480
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:14.440
it to their advantage? I'm assuming so your wife is missing,

481
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.319
we'd like to talk to you more. But for him

482
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.279
to act incredulous like this is ridiculous, you broke the law.

483
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:23.960
They worked well within the bounds of what they are

484
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.559
allowed to do, but he became extremely irritable about this

485
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:33.799
entire situation from that point forward. Regardless of his feelings, though,

486
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.160
his wife was still missing and police were no closer

487
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:42.359
to finding her. So five days later, on February the twentieth,

488
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.240
police asked Stephen, look, man, are you willing to take

489
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.799
a polygraph test? And Steven said, no, I'm not going

490
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.680
to do it. He's still angry. Okay, he feels like

491
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.960
he's being mistreated and that they're pointing the finger at

492
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.200
him without you know reason too, he hasn't done anything,

493
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.319
so he says no, But then he decides, look, I

494
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:05.200
will take it, but I won't take it if you're

495
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.759
the one. If the Macomb County Sheriff's Office is the

496
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:09.559
one that's going to be giving it, I won't take it.

497
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.240
But if there's a third party or something like that

498
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:13.960
that will give it, I will take it with them.

499
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:16.880
I just don't want to take it with you, all right. Cool.

500
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:23.200
Strategically speaking, most people would tell you that taking a

501
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.720
polygraph test probably is not a good idea. But on

502
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.240
the other hand, I'm thinking about me personally. I always

503
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.480
try to put myself in these shoes, and my wish

504
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:39.880
to find my spouse would be heavily outweighing any personal

505
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.000
risk that I might have in that situation. Sure, they

506
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.680
may start looking at me as a suspect. Maybe they

507
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:46.920
don't like what I say. Maybe I fail the dawn

508
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.839
polygraph even if I had nothing to do with it. Strategically,

509
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:51.160
it's just not a good idea to take it. But

510
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:54.680
I'm telling you now, my sweetheart goes missing, you can

511
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.920
do whatever the hell you want to me. I don't care.

512
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.039
I'll go to jail even if it's just wrong. But

513
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.240
if God, if you can just help me find him,

514
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:08.200
I'll do anything. So under a lawyer's advice. You know,

515
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.279
he says, you know, I'll take it if someone else

516
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.319
is taking it. But the key here to it also

517
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.119
is that they're not admissible in court. That's why strategically

518
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.920
it doesn't make sense I guess to take one because

519
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:23.799
they can't use it in court. So what are they

520
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:25.920
using it for is what a lot of people will question. Well,

521
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.799
it's to him me up, is what people would think.

522
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.319
So it turns out that he did go take a

523
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.359
private polygraph. He did take it shortly thereafter, but the

524
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.680
results were just inconclusive. It didn't say, oh, he's flat outlying,

525
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.720
and it didn't say, oh he's you know, an angel

526
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:40.559
here on earth telling nothing but the truth. It just

527
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.079
was inconclusive. It didn't really sway one way or the other.

528
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.279
So police decided on a different strategy the next day,

529
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.880
because remember it's been days now that this woman is missing.

530
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.240
The next day they decide to hold a news conference

531
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:58.039
and update the media about the case. Because by this

532
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.960
point this case had blown up. People in the area

533
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:06.960
knew that this mother was missing. That plan said, look,

534
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.880
we're gonna hold our conference for the media, but not

535
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:14.359
only that, we're gonna hold a press conference daily until

536
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:17.119
she is found now. I don't know what was going

537
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.640
on behind closed doors in the police's mind here. I

538
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.519
wasn't there, but I have a feeling that this was

539
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:30.559
being done to apply pressure to whom I can't say,

540
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:34.160
but pressure, right. People who do things wrong want stuff

541
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:35.680
to go away. They want it to go under the rug.

542
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:37.480
They don't want people to talking about it. They want

543
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.119
time and distance and people to be quiet. Well, when

544
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.799
they say that they're gonna have a press conference every day,

545
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:44.960
you can take it to the damn bank that they

546
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.160
are hoping to smoke out somebody who might try to, Oh,

547
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.200
I have a little bit of information here, you know,

548
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.640
and come forward with something, even if it's to you know,

549
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:59.519
maybe make people look in another direction than themselves. But y'all,

550
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:03.799
that's not all they did, Okay, they dropped a freaking

551
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:09.720
bombshell in this news conference. See what Stephen didn't know

552
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.559
was he may not have wanted to speak with them,

553
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.480
but they were still doing some investigating of their own,

554
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.960
and this included that they switched gears and started focusing

555
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:26.920
on Stephen's digital presence, which included his emails. He did

556
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:32.559
not know this, and the bombshell that they dropped was

557
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.960
that there was an email that really stood out to police.

558
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.279
It was sent about a month before Tara went missing.

559
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.880
The exact date was January twenty fifth. Tara was on

560
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.240
a business trip in London at the time. She was

561
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:53.079
not home and Steven sent a message an email to

562
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:56.240
a former girlfriend. Her name was Dina Hardy, and the

563
00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:00.759
contents of that message were of a romantic tone and

564
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:05.240
honestly they were just sexually suggestive. So I don't have

565
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:06.880
a copy of that email at the time that I'm

566
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.559
recording this. It wasn't for lack of trying. But he

567
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.240
did make one statement that I do have that was

568
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.559
kind of hm to me. They're discussing back and forth

569
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:20.880
in this email, and this is a direct quote. He says,

570
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:25.200
I don't care about being married. He said, it's a no,

571
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:31.720
no conscience thing. Wow, you know, marriage to me is

572
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:33.920
all about my conscience and that I need to sleep

573
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:36.720
good at night and presumptively next to the person I married.

574
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.680
So that's a strange thing to say that you don't

575
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.720
have any conscience about, you know, your marriage. So there

576
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.799
was nothing, by the way that indicated that this email

577
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.480
had led to anything further with this woman, but it

578
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.960
surely wasn't anything that Stephen had mentioned whenever there was

579
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:58.759
all this questioning being done, and man, if that does

580
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:03.839
not stink of possible motive. The bombshell wasn't just that

581
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:08.079
the media was going to tell everybody that her husband's

582
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.599
looking kind of suspicion here because he would have had

583
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.360
a you know, romantic email with an ex. No, no, no,

584
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:19.079
no no. They actually released the emails, okay, to the public.

585
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.719
Now again, I searched for those and I had a

586
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:25.039
really hard time finding them. So but they during this

587
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.920
press conference at some point released the emails. So that's

588
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.559
what we would call, like I said, applying the pressure

589
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.599
and Lucy, you got some explaining to do, as Ricky

590
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.400
Ricardo would say. So while Steven had been telling the

591
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.840
police that he suspected Tara was having an affair, it

592
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.320
surely was now seeming like the pot was calling the

593
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:53.519
kettle black based on these emails. And y'all now that

594
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:58.360
pot was pissed because he felt like his private life

595
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:02.480
had now been put on display. Maybe you're hello, are

596
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.000
you listening? Sorry? Your wife is missing the emails? To

597
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.679
be damned, where's your wife? But he got upset about it,

598
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:13.800
and police kept their word too, y'all, because the very

599
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.880
next day they held another conference, and that's when they

600
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.079
told the public, you know what, we're going to start

601
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.039
doing ground searches. We're looking for her now, we are

602
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:25.800
actively looking. And I do remember her sister saying something

603
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:27.679
I don't have it here in my notes, but something

604
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:29.800
to the effect of that made the family feel really

605
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.519
sick because they knew what that meant. You know, if

606
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.760
you're doing ground searches for someone, everyone pretty much knows

607
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.079
you're probably looking for a body at that point, but

608
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.360
they didn't have one. Interestingly, at that point when they

609
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.440
vocalized to the world, hey, we're going to be doing

610
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:48.480
ground searches, Steven then said, well, look, the night that

611
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.920
I overheard, you know, or that we had our fight,

612
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.440
I did overhear her on the phone with someone saying

613
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:56.840
that she was going to meet them at the end

614
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.559
of the driveway. So he was kind of making it

615
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.000
seem like, well, maybe she was calling a lover, or

616
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:05.280
maybe she was calling someone, you know that it should

617
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.400
have been me she was talking to. So police were like,

618
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.119
all right, well checkmate, and they checked the phone records.

619
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.400
Well guess what, that was a flat out lie. That

620
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:17.159
phone record did not exist, and before Steven could even

621
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.320
say no, it wasn't her cell phone, it was the

622
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.880
house phone. They checked the house phone records too. No

623
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:28.199
call was made to the you know, notation of what

624
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.599
he was saying happened. So, of course the release of

625
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.480
the emails had people talking and the media is kind

626
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:38.599
of sniffing around this, going, hey boy, you know, why

627
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:40.639
don't you give us a little something something, you know,

628
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.440
maybe you ought to explain yourself here. So there was

629
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:46.480
a local TV station, they were called Local four. They

630
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.760
reached out to Steven's attorney. Yes, he went and got

631
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.920
an attorney at that point, and the attorney spoke for

632
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.920
Stephen to them and said, Stephen is an absolute emotional

633
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.800
wreck because his wife is missing and the mistreatment by

634
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.480
the police department isn't helping him. He's basically having a

635
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:12.159
nervous breakdown. So the next day police say, all right, man,

636
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:15.800
we need to see your home computers. So they wanted

637
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:17.760
to check them for any evidence that might be helpful.

638
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.079
And Steven did pack up the computers and he went

639
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.159
to the police station and he turned those into the

640
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:30.000
Macombe County Sheriff's office. So searches had been underway at

641
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.880
that point, like the ground searches to look for any

642
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.519
sign of Terra, and so they decided that they wanted

643
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.760
to go to areas where that she was familiar with.

644
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.599
So to start, they searched a three mile area that

645
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:49.599
surrounded the home, the Tara Grant Home. They didn't find anything,

646
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:54.719
and this was no low key search either. They had helicopters,

647
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.400
they had search dogs out there. They had over one

648
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.440
hundred and fifty people boots on the ground combing through

649
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:05.639
the area and they found nothing. So I guess, if

650
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.880
you're her family, that's kind of a good thing because

651
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.320
that means she's not dead. But it's not, you know,

652
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:11.920
it's also a bad things. We don't have her and

653
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.760
we don't know where she is. So they then went

654
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:18.320
and even searched. Her family had a family cabin back

655
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.840
in that rock area where she grew up, and it

656
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.360
was a forty four acre area that they used for hunting.

657
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.599
And I think I read somewhere too that the family

658
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.000
made like maple syrup and stuff like it, a wholesome

659
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:31.920
family type stuff. I love that too. I think that's

660
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.360
really neat. But they had this this family cabin, and

661
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.559
so they thought, well, hey, maybe she went there. Maybe

662
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:39.320
she got so pissed off she just went off the

663
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:42.000
grid to the cabin and she's trying to cool off there.

664
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:50.079
So the cabin was eight hours away from the you know,

665
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.400
the home that Tara shared with her family, which was

666
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:58.199
in Washington Township, eight hours away. So although that was

667
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.440
a stretch, they still police went and they did the

668
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.559
searches there and they found nothing, absolutely nothing at the home.

669
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.079
Then they also went and searched another property that was

670
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.079
south of that location, but the only thing they found

671
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.440
that was of any interest at all was deer tracks.

672
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.159
I mean, there was there was no you know, foot

673
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:20.559
tracks of people or anything there. So finding her was

674
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.400
seeming more like finding a needle in a haystack. If

675
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.920
she was even in this area, she was just gone.

676
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:31.280
So by February the twenty fifth, this case made national headlines.

677
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.039
And the more people that knew about this case, the

678
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:40.239
more that people started focusing on things that maybe in

679
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.679
the moment didn't matter or mean much, but looking back

680
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.559
on it, it kind of was making them go hmm.

681
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:53.000
So let me give you an example. This included the

682
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:58.039
fact that when Steven had been arrested for his suspended license.

683
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:03.360
They did like a search incidental to his arrest, and

684
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:08.920
they found four thousand dollars in cash in envelopes in

685
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.360
his car. So it did make you just kind of

686
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:16.159
wonder what was he doing with four thousand dollars cash

687
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:22.039
yet his wife isn't spending any money any other way

688
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.719
outside of the home. That's a large quantity of cash

689
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:27.960
for someone who's just found out that their wife was missing,

690
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:31.039
and he didn't seem to have anywhere specific that he

691
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:36.280
was going with the cash. So about three weeks after

692
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.800
Tara went missing, a judge signed off on a search

693
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:44.119
warrant for the Grant home as well as a family

694
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:47.400
business of Steven Grant's, and this was like a machine

695
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.480
shop of some type that his family owned. And this

696
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.760
was not just one detective or two detectives showing up

697
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.960
to the house on the search warrant. This was a

698
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.679
whole investigative team that showed up up to search this house.

699
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.519
So they meant business when they showed up, so they

700
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.639
kind of blindsided Steven. He got irritated at all of

701
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:10.679
the people and he said, look, can I just go

702
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:12.679
walk my dog. I'm just gonna go walk the dog,

703
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:15.239
and the police are like, yeah, bro, you're not under arrest.

704
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.079
You can go walk your dog. We're just gonna execute

705
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:19.400
this search horn. So he's like fine, So he grabs

706
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.559
his dog and he goes out for a walk. And

707
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:26.599
this is where I am just so amazed by police

708
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:31.920
gut instincts, because this is so by chance that this happened.

709
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:37.320
But he leaves to go walk the dog, and there's

710
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.199
two detectives that are standing in the garage of the

711
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:47.159
Grant home. Now their garage, y'all, it's pretty neat for

712
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:51.239
a regular use family garage. You know. They've got their

713
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.000
items in there, like a lot of us, do you know,

714
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.320
lined up, you know, tupperware buckets with kids toys in it,

715
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.840
stuff like that. So I want you to imagine if

716
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.280
you walked into a garage, the garage door goes up,

717
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:09.360
you look to your left and there is a like

718
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:12.119
a shelving unit that's right there on the wall. And

719
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.360
on top of that shelving unit, it's got miscellaneous little

720
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.880
like tools and items just kind of set on all

721
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:22.360
of these shelving units. In front of that, on the

722
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:26.400
floor is a blue tupperware bucket, like a like a

723
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:28.920
big one like you store stuff in and on top

724
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.280
of that is an empty fish tank like they had

725
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:33.360
petfish and they just cleaned it out and set it

726
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:37.840
on top. And then right next to that tupperware bucket

727
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.880
is a green tupperware bucket, again regular bucket, nice and

728
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:47.760
neat stacked, and there's a nicely folded black tarp on

729
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.559
top of it. It looks like it's never been used,

730
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.320
like it's a freshly pressed tarp just laying on top

731
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.559
of it. Then on the side of that bucket is

732
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.760
a Little Tikes kid wagon which is full of young

733
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:03.440
kids toys, you know, like like plastic baseball bats and

734
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.079
you know, little boy toys and stuff like that. And

735
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:09.239
then right next to that is a trash can, but

736
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.079
that trash can is like a clean trash can, and

737
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.880
it's just filled to the top with more kids toys. So,

738
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:21.079
like I'm saying, there's nothing bizarre in this garage. So

739
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.480
the two detectives are standing there talking to each other about,

740
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.480
you know, I guess what procedure they want to take

741
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.960
to go through the home. And one detective is standing

742
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.880
in the garage and mentions to the other detective that

743
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.400
he just didn't remember that green tupperware bucket being there

744
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.639
the very last time that they were there talking to

745
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:45.960
Steven and so, ye'all, it's nothing out of the ordinary.

746
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:47.880
It's just a green tupperwaar bucket like you would put

747
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:51.400
in your attic with your decorations or something. But feeling,

748
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:54.480
and there's nothing more here than a feeling feeling like

749
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:57.440
it just wasn't right, Like why is this bucket now

750
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:01.960
here inserted between all of this other stuff. The detective

751
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.320
decided he wanted to walk over and open it, so

752
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.440
he just popped the lid off of it, and inside

753
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.800
of it was some thick plastic that something was wrapped in.

754
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.280
So the detective just leans down and presses his hand

755
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:21.480
into the plastic, and he says, immediately, as soon as

756
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:26.199
his hand pushed in, immediately he knew something was not

757
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:29.840
right about the contents of that one bucket. He said,

758
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:33.320
it was it was dense, y'all, and it had some

759
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:37.280
give to it. And you know exactly where this is going.

760
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.679
So he decided to cut open the bag, and to

761
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.719
his shock, when he just opcuts the bag and he

762
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.639
opens it, he's looking at the severed end of a

763
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:55.239
human neck where a head used to be. He's looking

764
00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.000
at a cut off, there's a neck there, So he stumped.

765
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:03.199
He calls out to everybody else to come here, and

766
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:06.760
that's when they pull it open and they all realize

767
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:11.440
that they are most likely looking at Tara Grant's neck

768
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:17.119
and torso down to the tops of her thighs. So

769
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.239
there's no head and there's no knee in below, and

770
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.679
there's no arms. It's just her neck down to her

771
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:29.360
upper thighs. It's in the face up position in this bucket.

772
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:32.599
She is still wearing her bral, she still has on

773
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:37.880
her panties. So clearly police now need to go grab

774
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:42.440
Stephen and the dog and we need to talk like,

775
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:46.960
now we just found her torso, you know, in your garage,

776
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.159
and so their whole belief system here in the background

777
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.920
that you know, Stephen must have had something to do

778
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.760
with this. This motive that he must have had somewhere

779
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.719
is now looking really accurate. Okay, considering how he felt

780
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.519
like he was harassed by police. So he was last

781
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:04.880
seen walking the dog. He wasn't under arrest or anything.

782
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.400
But now that they're going to look for him, guess what,

783
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.800
he's nowhere in sight. So it was kind of looking

784
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.800
like maybe he knew the jig was up, and he

785
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.639
ran off with the dog to walk it like under

786
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:18.280
this guise that that's what he was going to do,

787
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.400
and really maybe he was trying to run away. So

788
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:25.519
Stephen Grant was believed to have killed his wife was

789
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:28.840
now on the run. But where had his wife's body

790
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.000
been all those weeks? Because it had not been in

791
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:35.760
that garage when they were there before, so where had

792
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:40.280
it been? As luck would have it, there was a

793
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.079
woman that was taking a walk in a local park

794
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:47.239
and she was very intrigued by a baggie that she

795
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.039
saw that was stashed into a tree. Caught her attention,

796
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:55.880
and we ladies are curious creatures, and so it just

797
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.480
seemed so suspicion to her that she said, I'm gonna

798
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.599
go up there and actually go look at it. So

799
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:03.800
she grows and grabs the bag and inside there are

800
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:09.960
some very unsettling items, which was mainly sticking out where

801
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.599
these bloody gloves that were inside. So detectives did their thing,

802
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.159
They gathered the items, they went and they had the

803
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.280
blood tested on those gloves, and wouldn't you know that

804
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:25.519
blood came back positive as Tara Grant's blood. So by

805
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.159
March the third the police announced to the public that

806
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.400
the body parts you know had been located in the

807
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:33.719
Grant home or a body part I guess had been

808
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.000
found in the Grant home and they pointed at Stephen

809
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:41.159
Grant as suspect number one, and from there a massive

810
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:47.280
man hunt ensued. Lucky for investigators, Steven may have been

811
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:50.559
desperate to get away, but he was also unwilling to

812
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:54.320
completely cut ties with his family, and so he made

813
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.280
a call to his sister, which police were able to

814
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:01.079
trace to the Wilderness State Park in northern Michigan. The

815
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:05.639
hunt was on, so they go searching for him, and

816
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:09.639
the very next day, and this was right before seven am,

817
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.320
they located Stephen Grant and he was in really bad shape. Now,

818
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:18.320
to be honest, he was in shape. He was one

819
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.079
body part at least he was he was whole, but

820
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:25.559
he was not looking good. So it turns out whenever

821
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.920
the police had the search warrant, Steven knew he realized

822
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.639
they were gonna find that piece of body. So instead

823
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.159
of walking the dog, he had actually gone and called

824
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.440
a friend who was none the wise or did not

825
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.239
know that this was happening, and he asked if he

826
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:41.719
could borrow the car under the pretense that Hey, don't

827
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:43.199
have a car at the moment, Can I borrow your car?

828
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.480
The friend says sure, and then he went on the

829
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.360
run to that Michigan park where he was found. Just

830
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.519
you know, he was in the throes of a all

831
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:56.400
out suicidal meltdown. He brought alcohol with him, he brought

832
00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:00.280
some pills, but he also brought a toy gun. So

833
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.440
why a toy gun? Well, I think this is proof

834
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:09.719
of cowardice myself. But he was hoping for a suicide

835
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:11.800
by cop. So if you don't know what that is,

836
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:16.280
real quick, I'll explain. But he had bought this toy

837
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.559
gun because he didn't want to kill himself. But he

838
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:20.599
figured if he pointed the gun at the police, or

839
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:22.800
he came out with a gun pointed the fake one

840
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.679
that looked real, then they would light him up and

841
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:29.039
kill him for himself. But you know that didn't happen.

842
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.639
They found him and he was still alive. He had

843
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:35.880
made the time while he was getting away to write

844
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:40.599
two goodbye letters to his children, so you know, he

845
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.679
was absolutely on the run. And when he was located,

846
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.639
he was sitting underneath a tree and was just semi conscious.

847
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:52.360
He had extreme hypothermia and he was actually talking to

848
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.960
the tree. He was very like, absolutely delirious when they

849
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:58.239
found him, but they didn't shoot him. There was no

850
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.599
reason to shoot him. They got him because he was

851
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.679
barely alive, and they got him airlifted to a hospital.

852
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.559
Once he got to the hospital and everything was stabilized,

853
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.159
he was placed under arrest and once able, he requested

854
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.239
to talk to the police, but he had a stipulation,

855
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.760
I will talk to you only if the conversation is recorded.

856
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.360
So I don't know what that's about. In my mind,

857
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.239
it's so that he can just lock in a statement

858
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.360
and then he's hoping that then he can refer to

859
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.559
the statement. I don't know what he thought was going

860
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:35.039
on there. So they agree and they record his statement.

861
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.159
Steven's account of the night Tara died began with her

862
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:43.280
unpacking from that recent trip, and he says that he

863
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.360
was getting ready for bed, so apparently he slept naked,

864
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:49.360
so he was getting ready for bed. He was naked,

865
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:54.239
and that's whenever the argument ensued about the constant traveling,

866
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.760
and he said that it just escalated. It got really ugly,

867
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:03.039
and that's when he claims Tera slapped him across the face,

868
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:06.960
and then, in his own words, he responded, and that's

869
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.960
when I hit and I choked her. So, as he

870
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:16.760
was choking her, he says that she began to fight back,

871
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.480
and while she's fighting back, he's got his hands around

872
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.840
her throat. He is choking the life out of his wife.

873
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:27.719
He says, their eyes locked, and she was looking into

874
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.480
his eyes with just absolute fear and terror while he

875
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:35.480
is choking her to death. So did he stop, Did

876
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.400
he have a moment of remorse or oh my god,

877
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:41.880
what am I doing? No, he continued to choke her.

878
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.320
He reached over, grabbed a piece of clothing and he

879
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:50.400
covered her face with it, and not out of some

880
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.960
type of you know, I don't know, reverence or something

881
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.880
for her. It's because he didn't want to have to

882
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:58.840
look at her while he choked her for over four minutes.

883
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:00.679
He didn't want to have to look at her face,

884
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.400
so he covered it. As over four minutes, he continued

885
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:10.360
to squeeze her throat until he choked the life out

886
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:16.239
of the woman he vowed to love forever. The entire time,

887
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:22.679
their two children were sleeping in the adjacent room. His

888
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:26.719
discussion and his explanation of the entire thing is so

889
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:32.079
callous and so cold. It almost seems like he's just

890
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:37.400
talking about taking out the trash. It's unbelievable. This is

891
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:44.639
the mother of his children, and so it's just actually

892
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:48.440
it's so chilling. But I want you to listen to

893
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:51.960
it in his own words, not the part I just

894
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.239
told you, but the next part when he is describing

895
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:59.599
how he moved her body from point A to point

896
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.119
B after she was dead.

897
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:06.519
I wrapped something felt around her neck. I think it

898
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.599
was my brown leather belt, and I know I couldn't

899
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:10.320
carry her, so I wrapped that around her neck and

900
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.599
I used it to pull her downstairs.

901
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:19.559
Were you as As I was listening to that, I

902
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:27.599
was so unimpressed by how he just says what he

903
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:31.480
said about the woman he married and gave birth to

904
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:36.960
his children, and then he doesn't even bother getting dressed

905
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.519
after she's dead. He doesn't even get dressed. That's when

906
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:43.320
he decides, like you know that, he drags her all

907
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:46.639
the way to the garage and he's trying to stuff

908
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:49.760
her in the back of her own suv, and so

909
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:51.599
he goes on to kind of discuss how he was

910
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:55.960
struggling under her literal dead weight, and he finally was

911
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:59.119
able to get her in the car, but not before

912
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.840
he dropped her a couple of times because of her weight,

913
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.280
and it was awkward, and he his description of what

914
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:09.599
I have to tell you this, he said, I was

915
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:13.679
struggling underneath her weight. And he said that, you know,

916
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.320
I dropped her, and he said, it was a disgusting

917
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.400
sound when I just dropped her. It kind of sounded

918
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:21.280
like if you dropped a watermelon on the concrete. What

919
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:27.400
I just I was so just when you hear people

920
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:31.480
say this and describe something so horrendous and just compare

921
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:33.320
it to oh, yeah, I was like dropping a watermelon

922
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:39.800
the way on the concrete, unbelievable. Well, moments after he

923
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:41.840
finally was able to get her body in the car,

924
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.519
he walked back in the house and that's when their

925
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:48.199
nanny showed up. Remember that nanny that came to watch

926
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:54.199
the kids. So now you maybe like, well, Kelly, you

927
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.360
gave away what happened kind of quickly in the story. Yeah,

928
00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:59.440
but I did that on purpose, because now what I

929
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:01.679
want to do is kind of reverse engineer a few

930
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:04.239
things for you that are going to really hammer home

931
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:08.639
what type of person Steven Grant was I'm going to

932
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.559
insert now some little some some unknown facts that he

933
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:18.320
conveniently left out of his confession, but that was figured

934
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:21.719
out later on, okay, And I want to tell it

935
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.039
to you now so you can really figure out what

936
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:26.599
was going on the whole time that this argument went down,

937
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:31.000
So that eighteen year old nanny, who at first was

938
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:35.199
not part of this in any way, would eventually come

939
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:39.119
forward and she would come forward to police with the

940
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:43.480
fact that you guessed it, she was having an affair

941
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:49.559
with Steven Grant. Now, she didn't come forward though, until

942
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:53.800
after Tara's body was found. And so my question is

943
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:58.800
why why would she wait to come forward with the

944
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:02.920
affair when Sarah went missing? But y'all, it actually makes sense.

945
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:05.760
I'm not saying that this is good or she should

946
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.199
be proud of it, but it makes sense why. The

947
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:12.920
answer is because she did not know Tara was dead. Remember,

948
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.719
Steven knew nothing when this all went down. He was

949
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.519
even having press conferences at first where he was the

950
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:22.800
heartbroken husband. And matter of fact, I'll put a video

951
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.039
of that on Patreon for you if you want to go,

952
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:26.960
or you can google it yourself, but I'll put a

953
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.320
google a video on Patreon, So you can see how

954
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:34.239
he's crying, y'all, lip quivering and all. You know, the

955
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.159
whole thing, call me if you know where she is,

956
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.840
if you see her, And the whole time he knew

957
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:46.159
where she was, Okay. But whenever he later accounts the

958
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.280
fight that they had, he makes it out as she

959
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.599
hit him and when she hit him. That's what threw

960
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:56.559
him over the edge, was when Tara punched him and

961
00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:00.599
hit him. But now we know that he was the

962
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:04.360
one having the affair, which, by the way, he was

963
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:07.079
accusing her of, which was never shown to be true.

964
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.599
Well that Nanny Verena, however you would like to say it,

965
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:16.280
Verena Verena. Her account of things was that she and Stephen, yes,

966
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:21.079
we were having an affair, but the romantic shift in

967
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:24.880
our relationship didn't start until just a couple of weeks

968
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.719
before Tara went missing. And the reason she says I

969
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.800
didn't come forward was at first she said, I wanted

970
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:33.440
to protect him. You know, I thought we were in

971
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:37.960
love and so I wanted to protect him. But that

972
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:42.400
was all based on the story he told her when

973
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:46.639
she came into the house unexpectedly after he had just

974
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.719
shoved the body in the suv. Verena didn't know anything

975
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:56.119
about that. She says, I came into the house and okay,

976
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:57.920
me telling you the story. You know now that he

977
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.400
had just killed Tara. She didn't know that. And when

978
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:05.360
she came in the house, she says, before that day,

979
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:09.039
he had confided in me that he and Tara were

980
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:13.159
having marital problems, and their marital problems was because Tara

981
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:17.880
was having an affair. He even brought out emails that

982
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:22.320
were two years old and he showed them to her,

983
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:25.000
trying to say, see, I think she's in an intimate

984
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:28.199
relationship with an old friend, which was never proven to

985
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:32.760
be true or even accurate. And so after he showed

986
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.000
her those emails before Tara was dead, he started to

987
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:40.760
then pursue the eighteen year old nanny. But he was

988
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:43.880
concocting a whole house of cards here where he made

989
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.719
her believe that Tara was being a bad wife cheating

990
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:52.920
on him. He was victimized, and so after seeing the emails,

991
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.239
she assumed that their relationship was ending because he was

992
00:58:56.639 --> 00:59:00.320
hinting to that, and so she once he started to

993
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.840
pursue her, at first was not accepting it, but once

994
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.159
all of this came to light supposedly, and she believed it.

995
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:13.039
She then caved to the advances. It wasn't until the

996
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:17.679
day that she came home and step and Stephen you know,

997
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:22.039
was naked standing there in the house that he told her,

998
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:27.280
oh my god, Tarah left me. Tarah left me. Her

999
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.119
account was that she wasn't enjoying and an evening out

1000
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.000
with her friends and she was just having drinks and whatever.

1001
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:35.599
And she said, I got really annoyed with all of

1002
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.519
the texts from Stephen and he kept saying that like

1003
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:41.159
she owed him a kiss for example, for being out

1004
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:44.199
without him. So she was kind of getting annoyed with it.

1005
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.519
So she packed up her things and she went back

1006
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:49.159
to the house to go, I guess talk to him

1007
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.440
about whatever, because she was annoyed. When she came home,

1008
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.679
she said, I walked in the door and Steven this

1009
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:58.440
is a direct quote, was running down the stairs and

1010
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.480
he was yelling. He yelled, what the the fuck are

1011
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:05.039
you still doing here? So she was kind of surprised

1012
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:08.480
when he said that, and she said she just kind

1013
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.840
of stood there until Stephen said, oh, I thought you

1014
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.599
were Tara. We just had a huge argument. She slapped

1015
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.639
me in the face and she left. So he was saying, Oh,

1016
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.440
I'm surprised because I thought you were Tara coming in.

1017
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:26.280
So Verena was still surprised at this point, and so

1018
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:29.679
she said. At that point, Stephen ran past her and

1019
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:32.599
he ran into the dining room, where he collapsed and

1020
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:35.000
he started crying and he plopped down in a chair

1021
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:39.599
and he was sobbing. Tara left me. He was very emotional,

1022
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:41.800
she said. He started pouring his heart out to her,

1023
01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:45.320
and he said that he needed her, he needed Verena.

1024
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.840
But she was just going to have to be quiet

1025
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.599
about their relationship because there was going to be a

1026
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:53.920
divorce and he did not want to lose the kids

1027
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:57.159
in a divorce if people knew that he had been

1028
01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:02.199
flirting with her. Now, the young girl believed that she

1029
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.320
and Stephen were in love, even though this was only

1030
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:06.320
a couple of weeks that they had been flirting with

1031
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:11.360
one another, and she said she felt so compassionate towards him,

1032
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.960
thinking Tara was doing him so wrong, and she felt bad.

1033
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:17.239
She didn't want to be the reason that he would

1034
01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:20.440
lose the kids in the divorce. And so together they

1035
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.639
sat down and they deleted all of their text messages

1036
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.880
between one another that were, you know, flirtatious, flirtatious. Can

1037
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:31.920
you not see the manipulation here? Like on so many levels?

1038
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:36.639
And look, I know it seems stupid that she thought

1039
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.639
it was this simple okay that oh my wife let

1040
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:42.239
me left me, so now you know, I'm flirting with you.

1041
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:46.079
But remember, y'all, she's eighteen, and I can see how

1042
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.480
she would be swept up in the attention of this

1043
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:52.679
older man who is this broken person and his marriage

1044
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.079
is going bad, and he's mistreated and his wife has

1045
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:58.840
hit him. You know, she's young, and I'm gonna chalk

1046
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.039
it up to that. A really that in my gut

1047
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:04.199
that she knew better than to have this relationship with him,

1048
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:06.760
because that's why she kind of pushed it off at first.

1049
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.239
It wasn't until she believed that Tara left him and

1050
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:13.000
that he had been hit by Tara that she caved

1051
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:18.480
to you know, her wants with him. He basically just

1052
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:21.519
opined to her. Look, I do all the work with

1053
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:24.440
the children. She's never here. You know that. That's why

1054
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:27.800
you're hired here. I'm the mother, I'm also the father,

1055
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:31.000
and she's not interested in doing her motherly duties. It's

1056
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.280
all on me. And it was about this same time

1057
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:38.519
that Steven, just so you can see the manipulation here,

1058
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:42.760
called and made that voicemail that you heard, and left

1059
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:46.639
that voicemail on Tara's phone, claiming that she needed to

1060
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:49.880
call him back and stop ignoring him, when in reality,

1061
01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:52.800
he was lying so that young girl would believe it.

1062
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:55.920
He had already killed Tara, and now he was throwing

1063
01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.800
Tara and her reputation under the bus, leaving that Tara

1064
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.519
had left and just absconded from her family. Verena then

1065
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:08.199
was happy to just freely love him, because remember they'd

1066
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:11.639
been flirting for weeks, and that's when if you're ready

1067
01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:15.880
to get pissed off even more, that's when this guy

1068
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:20.559
who has murdered his wife and is lying to this

1069
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.320
young girl and is emailing if you remember an ex girlfriend,

1070
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.280
that's when he just jumps on the sex train with

1071
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.320
this young girl and they engage in oral sex together.

1072
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:33.920
That night, they expressed their love to one another, and

1073
01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:37.119
then they spent the next few evenings kissing and cuddling

1074
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:43.679
in the marital bed of Stephen and Tara. She continued

1075
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.480
to see him for weeks, and she said admittedly it

1076
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:50.239
was in secret, but it was secret because he kept

1077
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.079
pleading with me, please don't say anything about our relationship,

1078
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:56.679
because innocent people go to jail, and he didn't want

1079
01:03:56.679 --> 01:04:00.519
that to happen to him. He was really worried that

1080
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:02.760
people might think he might be involved in his wife's

1081
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:06.239
disappearance because he was messing around with this young girl,

1082
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.400
and that's exactly what people were going to think. She,

1083
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:12.880
on the other hand, had that conscience, remember the one

1084
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:14.559
that he just didn't have that he talked about in

1085
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:17.800
the emails. She started thinking, oh my god, Okay, your

1086
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:21.280
wife's really missing. Now it's making news. I don't want

1087
01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:25.119
them to think I was involved somehow. So she did

1088
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.519
remain quiet, but she started to worry, like, this is scary.

1089
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:30.440
I don't know where your wife went, and now the

1090
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.559
police don't know where she went. Once Terra's body was found,

1091
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:40.719
that's when she was like, whoa hold on? She was scared,

1092
01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:44.199
and she said she called him secretly and they were

1093
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:48.119
talking about it, and she said that Steven almost gave

1094
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:52.599
off this feeling of like he was pleased with all

1095
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:54.719
of the media attention that he had been getting, and

1096
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:56.559
he was even gloating to her about having been on

1097
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:01.280
dateline and it just didn't sit right with her, even

1098
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:03.800
though she thought she loved him, this is still wrong, Like,

1099
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.079
why do you seem excited to have been on the news?

1100
01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:11.800
You know, on February first, days before the killing, he

1101
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.920
was up front saying to this young girl before he

1102
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:18.679
even killed Tara, hey, I want to start sleeping with you.

1103
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:20.119
I don't know how he worded it, but that's pretty

1104
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:24.119
much what he was saying, and it escalated on February seventh,

1105
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.519
whenever she says that he just dropped his pajama pants

1106
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:31.480
in front of her and said, I guess today, I

1107
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:33.480
don't know what he said, but he dropped his pants,

1108
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:35.960
and she said that they ended up sleeping together for

1109
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:39.400
the first time that day. This is before Tara was

1110
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:46.360
even dead. He then the very next day confessed that

1111
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.480
he loved her during oral sex. Well, I'm sure he did.

1112
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:54.519
And that's when Tara and Stephen's six year old daughter

1113
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:59.920
busted in the room and caught them in the bed

1114
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.000
that next morning. So she said, I was hiding under

1115
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.039
a blanket so the little girl wouldn't see me under

1116
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:07.679
the bed because you know, her mom wasn't in town

1117
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.199
or wasn't there, and so I was afraid we got busted.

1118
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:13.719
She said that they also engaged in oral sex in

1119
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:19.280
the grant's bed, and you know, the entire time that

1120
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:22.960
this was happening, she's thinking Tara left Stephen, but Tara

1121
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:27.119
was dead and had been cut up into pieces. She

1122
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:30.880
also said, okay, well, now I'm thinking back on this,

1123
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:34.760
and she said, so, you know, I was only scheduled

1124
01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:38.280
to work Monday through Friday for the family, and so

1125
01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:41.199
it was kind of odd to her that he asked

1126
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:44.079
her to come over on a Saturday and a Sunday,

1127
01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:47.159
this was February tenth and February eleventh, because he said

1128
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:48.960
he had to go run a bunch of errands and

1129
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:51.960
he needed I guess her to watch the kids. And

1130
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.000
based on an investigation and looking at the statements that

1131
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.039
Vanna made, that's when police are like, okay, this makes sense,

1132
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:02.239
Steven did I'd go run errands? He ran errands to

1133
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:10.719
his family's machine shop. Ten days later, she returned to Germany,

1134
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:14.519
but they were continuing to talk secretly by phone and

1135
01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:20.800
by email. Once Terras Torso had been located, he called

1136
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:23.760
her about two o'clock in the morning that morning on

1137
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.559
March the third, and he confessed, Okay, look she's not missing.

1138
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:32.400
I killed her. He said, I want to tell you goodbye.

1139
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:33.960
I'm going to go to prison for the rest of

1140
01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.000
my life, but I just need you to know it

1141
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:38.639
was an accident. It was an accident. It was an accident.

1142
01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:43.639
After Stephen confessed it, she immediately hung up and called

1143
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:46.119
the police. So I just I don't hate on this

1144
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:48.599
little girl, this young girl. I mean, she's eighteen. I

1145
01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:50.840
don't hate on her. I think that she was manipulated.

1146
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:51.599
I do.

1147
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:57.199
Once she gave that timeline of the weekend and that

1148
01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:00.320
she worked on days she didn't normally work, they were

1149
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:04.000
able to figure out this. Tara's body was in the

1150
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:08.519
back of the suv when she came to babysit the kids,

1151
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:13.280
and that's when Steven drove to his family's machine shop

1152
01:08:14.199 --> 01:08:17.479
and cut up her body. That's how he had the

1153
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:19.760
time to do it. And I don't know if you've

1154
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:23.239
ever watched the Netflix series it's called You Like You.

1155
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.279
It's really good, go check it out. But this is

1156
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:30.039
literally one of the episodes that happens in that series.

1157
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:32.279
The whole time. When I was watching that series back

1158
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:34.560
in the day, I was thinking, Oh my god, yeah, right,

1159
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:37.840
truth is stranger than fiction. He uses a machine shop

1160
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.000
to cut up a body, and then this happens in

1161
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:42.720
real life. They believe he laid out a bunch of

1162
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.079
tarps on the floor. He took the body out of

1163
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:47.960
the suv. Nobody's there, they don't know it. He places

1164
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:49.920
her on top of the tarp and that's when he

1165
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:53.279
started to dismember her. After he cut her up, he

1166
01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:57.119
had placed the pieces of her body all around the

1167
01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:02.399
Stony Creek metro Park. Okay, scattered her. But once the

1168
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:09.279
police then made that pressure police conference and he realized

1169
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.600
that they were starting to go do that search, he

1170
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:14.239
ran back and he picked up her torso. He went

1171
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:18.359
back and got the dorso. And I'm guessing and the

1172
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:19.920
police are kind of thinking maybe he thought he was

1173
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:21.600
going to go move it somewhere else because that was

1174
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:25.520
the main part of the body, but that warrant was

1175
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:29.000
executed before he had time to go get rid of

1176
01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:33.279
that torso. And as if this is not barbaric enough

1177
01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:39.119
on all fronts, and I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, you

1178
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:41.399
know this is rough. Okay, I'm gonna let you listen

1179
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:45.159
to his confession in his own words about how he

1180
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.119
cut her up. Take a listen to this back up

1181
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:50.640
tear's hands up that I cut to the next joint

1182
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.600
and the next joint and stand with her legs and.

1183
01:09:56.359 --> 01:10:01.159
Something I threw up, and I took again, and I

1184
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:03.079
just told myself, look, if you don't do this, you're

1185
01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:06.279
going to prison for the rest of your life. And he

1186
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:09.680
kept cutting on. I put everything. I think I put

1187
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.439
some newspaper in there, because at one point there was

1188
01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:15.880
some blood. It was real stick like like syrup. So

1189
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.359
you had terrors entire body in one in one rubbers container.

1190
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:22.720
So early the next day, if you're not just completely

1191
01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.840
just grossed out by now, early the next day. The

1192
01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:30.600
next morning, after disassembling his wife, he goes to Stony

1193
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:35.960
Creek Park with his kid's sled. It's snowy okay. He

1194
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:40.159
goes with his kid's sled and he places his wife's

1195
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:45.319
body parts that are in the buckets on top of

1196
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.800
the sled. Now they're at the top of a hill

1197
01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:54.960
where he's at and like something out of a bad movie, y'all,

1198
01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:59.600
the sled takes off down the hill with the body

1199
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:04.000
parts in it. If this it would almost be comical.

1200
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:06.680
If this wasn't the most horrific thing that I'm expressing

1201
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:09.680
to you. There is a runaway sled with his wife's

1202
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:12.159
body parts in it, and he's having to chase after

1203
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:15.680
it to catch it. Listen in his own words, Listen

1204
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:17.079
to him as he describes it.

1205
01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:21.159
It was like Keston tops the sledge to both and

1206
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:24.479
now I'm chasing after this sled that has my wife's

1207
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:27.960
kind of body in it down a hill and I

1208
01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:31.800
finally got to stop when it fell over and curl.

1209
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:38.279
It's not all these pieces of now fall always like unbelievable.

1210
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:43.000
I wouldn't even believe this if it wasn't like, you know,

1211
01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:47.520
proven that this happened. He ultimately, in his mind, was

1212
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:50.960
hoping that the animals in the park would scatter her

1213
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.000
body and eat it and it would all just kind

1214
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:55.239
of go away, and that nothing would be left. But

1215
01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:57.960
you know, obviously he had to go back and he

1216
01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:01.560
had to move her to keep her torso from being found.

1217
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:08.439
So with the use of canine dogs and officers out

1218
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:12.079
there on foot, once this confession was made, the canine

1219
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:16.479
officers were able to locate a majority of Tara's remains

1220
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:22.319
back in the Stony Creek, Park in Shelby Township. They

1221
01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:24.680
did not get all of her parts back, but they

1222
01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:28.000
were able to get a majority of her back so

1223
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:32.800
that she could be laid to rest. Stephen was charged

1224
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:37.319
with murder, and after a three week trial, he was

1225
01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:42.159
found guilty of second degree murder and mutilation of a corpse,

1226
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:47.039
and he was sentenced to fifty to eighty years in prison.

1227
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:52.279
I hope Stephen enjoys his prison life. He earned it.

1228
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:55.560
I hope he enjoys it, and look, having done some

1229
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:59.600
time myself behind prison walls, I do want to give

1230
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:05.239
him a little unsolicited advice, and that would be to

1231
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:08.920
take care of your eyes, because, based on everything that

1232
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:11.920
I've learned about you, those are the only balls you've got.