June 10, 2025

The Drifter Part Two

The Drifter Part Two
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Season 7
In this episode of “Unspeakable” KJ completes the horrific story of the stabbing death of Matthew Millican and brutal assault of his fiancee’ by a group of men in West Baton Rouge Parish Louisiana.

Chapters
09:46 Discovery of Matt's Body
17:42 Teresa’s Strength in Grief
26:00 Capture of the Garcia Brothers
32:42 Hollywood's Heroic Actions
41:49 The Tampa Murder Connection
50:01 Hollywood's Support
53:41 Clemency and Controversy
56:36 Megan's Tragic End

Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings is Produced by the Pro’s at Envision Podcast Studios

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Source Credits:
https://www.lasc.org/opinions/2012/09KA1578.pdf
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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts.

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Some so evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended,

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then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all,

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it's kJ You're back with the no episode of Unspeakable,

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and I know for a fact you have been waiting

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for this one, this part two of the Matt and

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Meghan saga. I've gotten so many messages of dang it, Kelly,

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why'd you make it a part two? I'm so sorry,

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but y'all, there's so much that I have to tell you.

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And then I have some other information I learned firsthand

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all over the weekend too, that I'm adding into this,

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so trust it was worth the wait.

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Before I start this episode, though.

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I have some shout outs, and I have one that

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I owed someone that joined my Patreon and I somehow

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skipped over her, and I am just I feel horrible

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about it, but I'm screaming all the way to Saint Augustine, Florida.

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You know it's you, Stephanie de Roca.

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How are you? Thank you for joining? I apologize for

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I have a good heart, but I'm add and I

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how to say it? So, Michelle Aker in Louisville, Kentucky,

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this is my shout out to you. I appreciate you

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Where Elena Roland is. Hey, Elena.

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I hope that you are doing well. And we are

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plug for that. Now let's jump in. Now I'm gonna

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recap a little bit. I had to listen to reach

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out and say, Kelly, we wait a whole week and

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now I forget some things, so please recap. Well, this

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one's for you girl, all right. So Matt and Megan,

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if you remember, they were trying tlers. I'm not going

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to call him homeless because they were voluntarily without home.

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They traveled the US together.

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And so they had traveled and come back home to

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see Matt's mama, Miss Teresa, because they wanted to share

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that they were engaged. They set up a place to

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sleep the night that they got there. It was behind

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a motel eight, and then in the early morning hours,

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they were kidnapped. Megan was horrifically raped, and they were

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all abused by these three men that they had shared

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drinks with the night before. They also made friends with

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another drifter and his name was Hollywood, or that's what

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he went by, and he would ultimately save Megan from

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her captors. And now we left off with him taking

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off with nothing but a pipe for protection, while Matt

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was still tied up somewhere in the woods, location unknown.

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So I hope that that was a pretty good recap.

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If you haven't listened to episode one, go listen before

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you jump into this one.

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So Megan went ahead.

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She jumped on that phone when they made it up

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to a store, and she called Matt's twenty four year

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old brother Daniel, who by now was headed straight to

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her as well as when he jumped in the car

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to get to her, he dialed nine one one and

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told police, we need police here now and explain that

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best as he could what he knew to have happened.

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So Daniel and his mom they drove there as fast

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as they could. They had to come from Baton Rouge

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to go meet Megan and be by her side. Now

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while driving there, Miss Teresa was in absolute sheer panic,

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absolute panic, A feeling of helplessness consumed her. I don't

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even know how she was able to make it there.

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I would have been hysterical.

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And she told me.

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I spoke to her personally. I called her because I

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wanted to get more insight firsthand from some of the

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players in this story. And she told me, I felt

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like my heart was ripping out of my body. I

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just I knew this was not good. I knew that

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this was gonna possibly be life altering, and it just

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was more than anyone should ever have to feel. So

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when they arrived and they got there, of course they

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wrapped Meghan up in hugs and the guys meaning Daniel

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and another I believe he had another friend with him

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or a cousin. But they set out into the woods

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to go look for Matt because that's where Meghan said

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he was somewhere off in that direction. Well, when the

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police arrived there, it was absolutely a welcome sight. And

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I found out it was because a lot of them

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actually knew Matt. They went to school with him, They

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were very familiar with him. It was like a first

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named basis, like they knew him, knew him, and they

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knew that when he was in the area. They knew

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what his lifestyle was, and they would check in on

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him while they were patrolling the area. They never ran

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him off. They knew what kind of person he was,

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and so they would often bring him hamburgers when they

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would see him, and they were friendly with him because

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he was not known to be a nuisance in the area.

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He just simply took a spot to sleep, and Megan

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would recount to them what had happened while the family

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was already deep into the woods shouting for Matt, Matt, Matt,

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were here, make a noise, Matt. So Miss Teresa actually

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got there after Daniel and the friend got there. So

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when she pulled up, the police walked over to either

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side of her car, like the driver's side and then

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the passenger side, and they actually shut the doors and

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did not even let them get out. She said that

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they were like, look, we're gonna we're not gonna ask

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that you get out. We're politely asking that you back

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up and that you go to the police station and

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if you could just go wait there, we will be

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happy to update you from there. And we just don't

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need all of these people in what is now going

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to be considered a crime scene. So with no other choice,

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that's exactly what she did. And also the police did

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retrieve Daniel and the other friend that was with him

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and say, look, guys, we know you want to find

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your brother. We're gonna do everything that we can, but

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we're gonna ask that you please let us do our

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job and that you take yourself down to the police station.

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So they looked throughout those dense woods, like I told you,

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but they never Matt never yelled out to them, so

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they did not locate him. They walked and they walked,

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and they searched, and they yelled, and they looked under brush,

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but they just didn't find him before the police arrived

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on scene. So they asked all of them go ahead

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down to the station, which they did. So clinging to

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hope that maybe I don't know, that Matt somehow maybe

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have gotten away, maybe he had gone to get help

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and he just wasn't able to get in touch with them.

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I mean, you've got to hold on to hope no

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matter what the situation is.

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Hope is something that you've got to hold onto.

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And that glimmer of hope was all that they would

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have during this time of just desperation, utter fear. Hope

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is a powerful thing to have on your side and

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to cling to. So now that the area was an

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active crime scene and they had arrived to the police station,

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they were also told we also have dogs out there

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and dogs are searching for Matthew as well. Because I

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wasn't there, but I'm assuming because of his stuff being

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on scene, you know, where they had camped out, that

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those dogs were able to get a scent for him,

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and then that's how they went out to track them.

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So the family got to the police station, they were

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escorted into a conference room where they were told to

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just sit and wait, and the police continued their search,

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and it wasn't very long after they did in fact

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find Matthew. But there would be no celebration in calling

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this family to tell them we found your son. Because

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Matt's body was recovered from the Intercoastal Canal. He was

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face down, still bound from his neck to his wrists

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which were then, as you remember, tied behind his back.

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And Matthew Milliken was dead. He had not survived the

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night and now he was in a waterway, so in

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a somber process. The police collected their badly battered friend

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and he was transported to the coroner's office for an

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autopsy to be performed. Now the medical examiner did a

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thorough examination. In his findings would now make sense as

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to why Megan heard that final scream from Matt in

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the woods. Matt had sustained a what he'd described as superficial,

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non lethal one third of an inch stab wound.

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To his left neck, but this was not what had

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killed him.

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The medical examiners described us more as what would be

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called an intimidation wound, like they had kind of stabbed

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him in the neck to make him walk and to

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go do what they wanted him to do.

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But he did have.

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Multiple blunt force trauma wounds to his head and to

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his face, particularly his left eye and his lip. There

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were hematomas and hemorrhaging in the lower lip and underneath

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his scalp. The trauma to his face was consistent with

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either a right hook punch or a blunt instrument, of

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which the medical examiner was unc exactly which one that was,

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But the trauma to his head was consistent with a

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beer bottle as well as a blunt instrument.

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Like a log.

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There were deep, deep ligature marks in his wrists, as

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well as a pretty deep ligature mark around his neck

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that measured fourteen and a half inches in length around

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The most major findings would include a fatal stab wound

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to his right chest which penetrated at least eight inches

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into his thorcic cavity. It perforated his right lung and

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the right side of his heart, so that final scream

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that Megan had heard was the result of a k

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bar slicing straight into Matt's chest and killing him within

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moments due to massive blood loss. From all indications, Matt

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was probably unconscious and most likely dead from the blood

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loss caused from the puncture to the right side of

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his heart before he even hit the water, And in

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a strange way, I hope that's true, because drowning sounds

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on top of everything that that guy had gone through

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beyond torture. I don't know what the word beyond torture

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would be, but I'm hoping that he was unconscious and

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didn't suffer another minute. But his death was ruled a

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homicide with exanguination listed as the official cause, which is

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where you bleed out. His time of death according to

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the coroner, was between two am and four am. Now,

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back at the conference room, the family was notified that

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one of the men believed to be responsible for attacking

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Matt and Megan had been found. This all happened very quickly.

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The man that had been found was fat boy. Now

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him being found, I want to let you know.

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A little bit about this.

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It wasn't because he wanted to come clean or that

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he was feeling sorry for what had happened. No, that's

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not what was going on at all. It was more

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like he surrendered kind of voluntarily, but because he was

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now afraid of the Garcia brothers because they were threatening

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to kill him. So basically, he's a little bitch, or

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maybe a big one. He can hurt and rape people,

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but when it's going to happen to him, now he's scared,

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and now he needs the protection of the police, the

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very people he was trying to run from.

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Isn't that ironic.

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So the officers arrested him and they would bring him

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back to the station where Matt's brothers had to physically

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be told.

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To stand down. Oh no, Mama told me.

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Mama, Teresa told me that when they said we've got

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one of them, and he's here. Both brothers jumped up

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like their chairs flew back.

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And the police We're like no, no, no, no, no, no

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no no.

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The brothers wanted to kick ass and take names, as

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any brother worth anything would probably want to do, but

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they couldn't. They watched. The family was outside and watched

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as fat Boy exited the police vehicle and walked into

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the police station. He passed right in front of Matt.

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After they had just been told what happened to their

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brother and to their son. The restraint involved there. God

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helped them because all they could do was watch the

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person that they thought or was thought to be responsible

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for their brother's disappearance.

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And now they know murder.

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Just walked past them and was being protected and not

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in that they could not go do something I guess

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vengeful on him. So megan flashing over to her real quick.

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She was clearly in need of medical attention whenever the

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police got hold of her. By this point, she had

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been taken by ambulance to the local charity hospital, which

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if you're from here you will recognize it was Earl

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K Long which is now no longer in existence, but

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that it's been torn down and everything. But that was

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the charity hospital there, And interesting is that my mother

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in law worked there during this time. Now I can't

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confirm nor deny whether she worked with Megan or not

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because they would not share that with me, but nor

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are they allowed to, right because of hippo. But in

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that kind of an interesting thing. So the process now

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that she is at this hospital is that they've got

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to check her out but also do that rape examination kit,

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the rape kit on her, and this process is so invasive,

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and after everything that she had already been through, I'm

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sure that this was just another perceived violation, even if

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it was for her good y'all, even if it was

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for her good. Ladies, real quick, guys, put your fingers

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in your ears, real quick. But girls, ladies, women, just

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when we go to our annual appointment or whenever we

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were pregnant and having our babies, do you remember how

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humiliating or how invasive it was just being checked once

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a year.

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How you're like, ah, and what do they tell you?

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I know, women, I know you're listening to me, and

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you're understanding right now when I say scoot down, scoot down,

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scoot down some.

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More, a little bit more scoot Did they scoot down?

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Why do they have to do that to us?

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We know it's for our good, but it's because it's

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just so invasive when you're at that doctor and now

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here she is having suffered hours and hours of trauma,

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and she's got to go through this rape test kit.

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And so you'll understand, I'm gonna make it very brief here,

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but there's twelve fundamental steps to a rape kit.

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But some of those steps include.

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Multiple swabs and pictures being taken, and they involve every

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personal orifice of your body inside and out. Well, Megan's

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mama wasn't there. Her mama lived states away in California.

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Her mama couldn't get there in time. So Meghan was

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basically alone. But like hell, would it stay that way?

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Because Matt's mama, Teresa, was not gonna have it. She

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shifted her immediate concern. And if you want to know

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the strength of a woman, you listen to me. She

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shifted her immediate concern the moment she found out her

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son had been found dead. Immediately she was grieving, but

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she shifted her concern to Meghan, and she said, this

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is the deal. I'm going to the hospital. I will

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wait for further updates from the hospital. But Meghan needs

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a motherly figure with her, and it's me. I'm her

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mama now and I'm gonna get there. Remember, y'all, Meghan

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was just in her early twenties and she had been

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through so much. But all she would say to anyone

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that would listen to her is she wanted Matt. Where

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is Matt? Have you heard anything he? You know, has

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he been found? I know he's out there, somebody, please

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please please find him. So it was during that initial search,

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like I told you, that Miss Teresa had been told

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that that Matt was killed. Well, when Miss Teresa was

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en route to go initially to the site where Matt

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was believed to be, she made a phone call to

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her brother in law, who was a deputy in Acension Parish,

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which is a nearby parish. And again we are I

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got to interjectoral quick. I always thought County sounded so country,

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you know, county. It made me think of spurs on

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the back of boots and walking up, you know, with

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your wars. And when I was a teenager, which this

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is embarrassing to say, but when I was a teenager,

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that's when I found out I live in the only

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state with parishes in everybody else's counties, and we are

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in fact the backwards ones. So anyway, Ascension Parish in

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Livingstone Parish, and West Baton Rouge Parish and East Bettanoge

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Parish were all next to each other. So that brother

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in law, who was a deputy, showed up very quickly

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because they were hoping he could get more information since

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he was law enforcement and he was going to go

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try and assist to find Matt. Well, when Teresa and

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Meghan sat together in that hospital room, Joey, who was

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the brother in law, would call her and you know,

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update her on this information about Matt and that.

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This was bad, this was really really bad.

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Well, her heart just shattered, you know, a mother just

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had in just the short amount of time to know

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that not only was he dead, but he had been

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brutalized and all of these things. Her first born baby

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boy was gone forever. No, you know, just no, don't

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tell me. I don't want to hear it. It's not true.

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And then the additional emotional pain that added right on too.

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It was the fact that now Megan had to be

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told mister Reesa just could not do it. She could

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not bring herself to do it, not after everything that

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that little girl had been through. And I say little

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girl because twenty is young to me. It was just

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too much. And she told me, she said, Kelly, I

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could not I could not watch. I couldn't break Megan's heart.

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I couldn't do it. And I'm looking at Miss Teresa

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because I did meet up with her personally, in face,

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face to face meeting.

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I had this weekend with her.

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We sat for hours and talked, and she she told

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me about her son, her son. She lit up, and

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she showed me pictures and she shared with me some

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just such private things, and I watched her face just

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light up talking about her baby boy, who y'all understand

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it's been twenty years since this happened. Miss Teresa's in

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her seventies now. It was like she gave birth to

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him yesterday, and she just beamed talking every picture and

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where he went and what he was doing. And I'm

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sharing that, by the way, on Patreon for my members.

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You can go check it out and you can go look.

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But she just couldn't break Megan's heart. She couldn't do it.

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And so shortly thereafter all of this was going down.

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A detective arrived at the hospital in person, and he

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would enter the room and as gently as possible, he

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would break the news to.

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Her that her fiance was dead.

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And as the words came out of his mouth in

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what seemed like slow motion, the agonizing weight of the

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words physically sucked the air straight out of Megan. She

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repulsed back when he said it, and still in her

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hospital bed, Miss Teresa told me she grabbed the blanket

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of her bed and she just pulled it up to

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her face, almost instinctually, and she bawled up in the

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fetal position, trying to just hide from the world.

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The words physically hurt her.

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And there she was, after all, she had been in

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the fetal position. Just the room was completely silent other

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than the sobs coming from these two women, the two

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that loved Matt more than anyone in the world, and

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now they were left to suffer the emotional consequences of

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such a great loss. So when Megan was released from

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the hospital, they were gonna and by they, and this

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is not I'm not saying this in a negative way,

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but you know, she didn't have anywhere to go, so

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the police were going to get her a hotel that

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she could go to to stay in and be safe,

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but Miss Teresa said, absolutely not, you are coming home

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with me. And Miss Teresa packed up Meghan, put her

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in her car, and she drove her straight to the

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house where she gave her a bed, and she cooked

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for her, and she doated on her just like any

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mama would pray that someone would take care of their

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own child. And she was released fairly quickly from the hospital.

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And that's why I want to go ahead and jump

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out here when someone's like, well, where's her mom? No, no, no, no, no,

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don't don't get mad at her mama. Her mama was

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still in California, unable to get to Louisiana that quickly.

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I mean, this happened very quickly from the time that

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the police got involved. So as you can imagine, shortly

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after the discovery of Matt's corpse, multiple law enforcement agencies

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began a began a massive manhunt for these three men,

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well now two, because they had gotten fat Boy. So

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fat Boy and the brothers had parted ways after the crime,

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probably a mix of them thinking it would better their

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chances of getting away with it, but fat Boy more

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so because he didn't want to be killed by the brothers,

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like I mentioned, and so he was apprehended later that

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same day that they that the police recalled. That was

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February eighth of two thousand and six. The Garcia brothers,

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though they were going to prove much harder to find.

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They eluded capture with multiple agencies involved for three days.

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But it was an alert Shell station clerk that called

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the Sheriff's Sheriff's office after apparently I wasn't very clear

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on this what happened, but the essence of it is

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that one of the brothers fell in the parking lot

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of the Shell station and hit his head really hard

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and she had to attend to him.

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It was that bad of a fall.

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But it was later on that she realized, oh my god,

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this is one of those wanted guys that was being

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blasted all over the TV. And so, working off of

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this tip that that worker called in, the hunt was

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one because now they had a more specified location to

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go to. So multiple agencies, including the West Batone, the

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West Button Rouge, Sheriff's Office, their special response team was

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deployed K nine chase teams from Hunt Correctional Facility, as

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well as Angola showed up. Louisiana State Police, the FBI,

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the local sheriff's office, and city police were all also involved,

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and they weren't playing helicopters launch. They put the birds

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in the air equipped with that heat fleer where they

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can do the heat sensing and all of that. They

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were in the sky, so if the brothers moved, someone

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was going to find them. It was just a matter

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of time. Now. The police also knew that the brothers

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were in possession of a cell phone, which figuring all

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of this out, they were able to triangulate from the

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cell phone signal and pinpoint a GPS location. That's triangulation.

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I think I've mentioned that before and how it's done.

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But this really narrowed that search area to about a

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mile and a half. But again, a mile and a

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half is a lot of search area, especially in our

474
00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:37.799
neck of the woods where we literally have lots of

475
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:39.920
woods and swampy areas and.

476
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:40.720
All of that jazz.

477
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.480
Well, the area was worked meticulously and the police would

478
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:52.680
eventually come upon a hand crafted bunker where these guys

479
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.880
literally had dug down in the dirt and then made

480
00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.599
a palmeto. You know what a palmetto plan is meadow tree.

481
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.559
I mean, I've always been taught don't buy property with

482
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:03.279
palmetos on it.

483
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:04.160
That means wetlands.

484
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:09.240
But anyway, they had put a palmetto plant cover over themselves,

485
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:13.960
and as daylight broke on the third day after the murder,

486
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:19.319
that's when police came upon cautiously this little hut type

487
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:24.039
thing that had been created in the woods. So the police,

488
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:29.880
I'm sure, guns drawn, approached, gave their demands, and when

489
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.720
they ripped back those palmetto leaves, sure enough.

490
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:35.200
There were the brothers hiding right there.

491
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.119
And what they had on them raised some eyebrows in

492
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:39.880
light of the fact that they knew Matt was now

493
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:46.720
murdered and stabbed to death. They had knives, machetes, and duffelbacks.

494
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.880
Hmm. Sure seems fitting for what we're we're looking for here.

495
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:52.480
And word on.

496
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:57.799
The street is that had there not been so many

497
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:03.079
people around, the others may have been neutralized on the spot.

498
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.640
That's allegedly, of course, But y'all know I do a

499
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.519
lot of talking to a lot of people, and these

500
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:13.759
police officers were pissed when they found these guys, but

501
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:16.200
they took them into custody and they brought them to

502
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:20.839
the station. Now, the results from the vaginal swabs taken

503
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:24.519
from Megan would come back, and they tested positive for

504
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:29.400
seamen that matched the DNA profile of James aka fat

505
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:34.400
Boy Nelson. Now, this is the part of this podcast

506
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.759
where I could wrap this up in a pretty bow

507
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.000
and tell you that the men were charged with Matt's murder.

508
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:41.039
But I can't.

509
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.359
I physically cannot do that. That's what a lazy pipe

510
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.400
I'm telling you, That's what a lazy podcaster would do.

511
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:49.480
But that ain't me. And trust when I tell you

512
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:50.480
you're gonna want.

513
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:51.400
To know the rest of this.

514
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:54.319
I have to explain some of this to you, this

515
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:59.039
post arrest information, because it's gonna blow your fucking mind.

516
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.960
So all of the men are now in custody, thank god,

517
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:09.319
and the interrogations commenced. Now fat Boy cooperated from the start.

518
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:12.000
But big, big frickin' whoop. Okay, he didn't do it

519
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.359
because he's a saint all of a sudden. He did

520
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.319
it for his own personal safety. But everything he told

521
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.279
the police aligned for the most part, with not only

522
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:26.680
what Meghan told the police, but also Daniel, who was interrogated.

523
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.720
By that point, Fat Boy and Daniel's stories pretty much

524
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:35.119
matched with Megan's. Fat Boy, though, was able to fill

525
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:39.079
in the blanks about what happened when he and Michael

526
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:43.440
marched Matt back into the woods. Because remember Meghan had

527
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.000
been left behind. She was guarded by Daniel, so he

528
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.000
wasn't there either. He had his machete at her and

529
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.000
said don't move or make a noise. So, according to

530
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:55.720
fat Boy, Michael led Matt from behind until the two

531
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.880
ended up walking off the side of a bank of

532
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.680
the Inner Coastal Canal. Now it was dark and it

533
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.960
was hard to see, so they ended up sliding down

534
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.759
this brush lined embankment, and Fat Boy at one point

535
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.559
fell into this hole that was there, and so it

536
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:15.640
took him a second to get up out of the hole.

537
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.039
And when he caught up with the guys moments later,

538
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.680
they all kind of had slid down that little muddy

539
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.279
bank area. They met back up together there and from

540
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:28.680
there they both led Matt to stand on.

541
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.680
The edge of the muddy waterway.

542
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:35.559
At this point, Michael then tried to force Matt to

543
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:40.440
sit down facing the water, but Matt pushed back against this.

544
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.160
He heard the water. He was understanding what was going

545
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:48.480
on here and he kind of was like pushing back

546
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:49.559
against this, not wanting to go.

547
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:50.119
To the water.

548
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:55.160
And that's when Michael reached up over Matt's shoulder, so

549
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.880
he's behind him. He reached up over Matt's shoulder and

550
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.400
he raised up at k bar and he just came

551
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.039
down with full force and stabbed Matt in the chest

552
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.160
with the k bar knife. And that was when Matt

553
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:15.160
screamed out in pain. That was the scream that everybody heard.

554
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.160
And once he had jabbed it so deep, it popped

555
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.119
his long and it hit his heart. He then ripped

556
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.440
it back out of his chest and in that moment,

557
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.680
the only sound that could be heard, and this is

558
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.160
according to Fat Boy, were Matt's lungs doing what he called,

559
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.839
quote a wheezing noise as he was struggling and gasping

560
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:39.200
to get air but he couldn't. And then Michael, callously,

561
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:43.279
i mean just like this was cutting the grass, just

562
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:49.319
pushed Matt into the water, face down, and Matt collapsed

563
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.079
down into the water. And then Michael stepped to the

564
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:54.319
side and just kind of swished his knife around in

565
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.799
the water to clean the blade off. And fat Boy

566
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.160
decided at that point, well he can't just lay here,

567
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.440
And so in an effort to get rid of the body,

568
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.880
he went up to Matt and walked out further into

569
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.960
the water and pulled Matt's body out, hoping that the

570
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:13.559
body would float away or sink in the waterway. And

571
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:17.200
this did add up what fat Boy was saying, considering

572
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.000
that the crime scene videos and the pictures showed a

573
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.720
muddy edge that was just a few feet away from

574
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.720
the water that was a drop off. Now, this is

575
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.200
where some mistakes were admittedly made by the police, and

576
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.559
they fully admitted this. Back at the Texaco station or

577
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.640
the Motel eight area, during evidence collection, they failed to

578
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.599
retrieve the shirt from the bathroom that Megan had spit

579
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:46.960
the seamen down in the sleeve. If you remember that, well,

580
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:50.960
you remember Hollywood. He had taken off with that pipe, right,

581
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:54.799
what happened to Hollywood, Well, he took off with a vengeance.

582
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.119
But he never found the guys. Why because they had

583
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.960
all absconded. They were gone. Well, Hollywood, I'd never left

584
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.440
the area, even after the police were done collecting evidence

585
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.279
and had untied their tape and had were gone. It

586
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.279
was just Hollywood and the things left by Matt and Meghan,

587
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:18.799
do you know that that homeless man took it upon

588
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:23.559
himself to pack up the couple's belongings that were all

589
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:29.079
left behind. He went into that bathroom and he retrieved

590
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.119
that shirt from the bathroom, but he was unaware that

591
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.200
there was DNA evidence in it. How could he have

592
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:35.680
known that?

593
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:36.240
He didn't?

594
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:43.680
And that hero, in my opinion, in that moment, that

595
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:51.759
homeless alcoholic hero then took himself and all of Megan

596
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:56.480
and Matt's belongings to a laundry Matt where he used

597
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.880
the little bit of change that he had to launder

598
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.559
all of their items so that the couple would have

599
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:08.960
their things back clean and orderly after everything that they

600
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:13.720
had been through. And I am truly honest, and I'll

601
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.920
tell you that touched my heart so deeply on a level.

602
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.880
It's almost unnatural that things went that way. You know

603
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.160
that that was so important to that man. He felt

604
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:28.960
like that's what he could do, and he did it,

605
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.160
and he had nothing, and he cared that much about

606
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.400
these people that he had just met that he wanted

607
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.319
to take care of their things. He even remember tried

608
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:41.039
to save their dog, Lola. I mean, what a guy.

609
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.000
It just goes to show that you never know who

610
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:47.359
you're dealing with. Sometimes you're dealing with angels in disguise,

611
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.519
and I think that Hollywood was one of them in

612
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.799
this instance. And when Hollywood was done with this, he

613
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:55.000
got in touch with Meghan.

614
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:55.880
I don't know how.

615
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:57.279
I don't have all the information on that, but he

616
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.160
did get in touch with Meghan, and he returned everything

617
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.599
to her nice and neat.

618
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:03.079
He did not take a thing.

619
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:07.000
Now, this would make sense as to why only Fat

620
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:11.079
Boy's DNA was found in her vaginal swabs, because the

621
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:15.719
other two had finished or completed their rapes in her

622
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:16.519
mouth if.

623
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:18.320
You remember everything.

624
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.679
Well, now that shirt had been laundered, Hollywood didn't know,

625
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:25.119
and the police had left it. So it's really just

626
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.079
a big crap, you know, Just dang it. How did

627
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.639
this happen? And it really, I don't think is anyone's fault.

628
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.199
It just was poor evidence collection. Now, when it came

629
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.760
to time for the ringleader, Michael to talk to police, he,

630
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:43.079
on the other hand, he denied any involvement or knowledge

631
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:47.559
of this crime. He knew nothing, He had never seen

632
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.920
these people, He didn't know. He was offended that he

633
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:55.239
would be accused of such atrocities. He then though after

634
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.280
some evidence would come forward and say hey, Bud, you're

635
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.639
not that good, would change his story. And now he

636
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.880
admitted to being there, but he had no intentions of

637
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.800
doing anything to anyone in the group. And then it

638
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:11.119
shifted again and he said, well, okay, I was there,

639
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:16.119
but fat boy is who killed Matt, not me, But

640
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.000
then faced with more evidence and more questioning, specifically that

641
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.840
everyone's story here matched, including the living victims and his

642
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.800
brother and his friends, there's all matched in his didn't.

643
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.920
Then he claimed, okay, fine, but it was an accidental killing.

644
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.800
We didn't mean to kill him. He then admitted to

645
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.639
having a knife. He admitted to robbing the couple. He

646
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:41.519
admitted to taking them into the woods, raping megan beating

647
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.400
Matt to death, almost within an inch of his life

648
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.960
before anything else. He admitted that he hogtied him. He

649
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.480
admitted that he brought him to the water's edge, but

650
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.079
he wasn't going to do anything to him. He just

651
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:57.639
wanted to scare Matt. You already did. I would suggest

652
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.599
that that option come out here, but whatever, I guess

653
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:01.719
he didn't think that that.

654
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:02.679
He thought this was smart.

655
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.159
I think, and Michael said that he was standing to

656
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.800
the side and behind Matt with the knife in his

657
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.360
right hand, and while they were walking and they fell

658
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.760
down that drop off in the water, that's when he

659
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:23.440
accidentally stabbed Matt. He didn't mean to. So then they're like, okay,

660
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:28.119
it's an accident. Wow, Well why did you leave Matt there?

661
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.880
Why didn't you call for help after this tragic accident?

662
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.760
And he said, because they were scared. They were scared, y'all,

663
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.000
give me a break. He did admit to raping Megan

664
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.960
with the other men for several hours, and for kidnapping

665
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.440
them and robbing them. But murder, no way, He wasn't

666
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:55.679
capable of that. Do not put that on him. But

667
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:00.559
the police aren't done yet. After all of this, they

668
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.159
put the brothers together in a conference room and left

669
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.599
them there for a while, and the two struck up

670
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:11.199
a conversation unbeknownst being recorded. So while that recording was

671
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:13.679
going on, first the police learned that the murder weapon

672
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.719
and the machete were hidden in the ground because the

673
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.519
brothers had taken them and they shoved the blades down

674
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:21.280
in the dirt. So that's cool, we can go find

675
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:28.119
the murder weapon. Secondly, the brothers then start callously talking

676
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:30.679
about how they should have just killed Megan and they

677
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:33.760
should have killed fat Boy because that wouldn't have left

678
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:37.559
any witnesses. So it sure sounded like they were capable

679
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:41.679
of murder, even though that was just beyond them. Well,

680
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:44.679
regardless of the claims that Michael made. All three of

681
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:48.239
them were arrested and they were charged with first degree murder.

682
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.760
This was on March third, two thousand and six, and

683
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:54.960
the state gave notice of its intent to seek the

684
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.360
death penalty. And this is the part where my jaw

685
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.760
literally dropped and yours is going to too, because I

686
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.159
had to. I had to share this to you. I

687
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:11.800
couldn't end the story. So in working with the plan

688
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.960
to go after the death penalty, a few things happened.

689
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.480
Number one, all three of the defendants were separated their

690
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:23.960
cases and they were going to be tried separately. So

691
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.119
part of the problem became anytime someone's going to go

692
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.079
for the death penalty, if you don't know this, you

693
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:33.840
have to have two death penalty qualified attorneys to represent

694
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.639
the person on trial for the death penalty, not one,

695
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:41.039
but two, and they have to be qualified which means experience. Well,

696
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.599
there were only six available. There was a total of

697
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.159
only six death penalty qualified attorneys available, which this means

698
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.639
this would take up all of the attorneys, and then

699
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.039
one of them ended up dying right there in the

700
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.320
middle of all of this the attorneys, so now they

701
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.880
had even fewer. Well, fat Boy may the first move

702
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.639
and as part of a plea deal, he agreed to

703
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.119
testify against the Garcia brothers in exchange for taking the

704
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:11.360
death penalty off the table. The state said, you know what, fine,

705
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.360
we'll take it. They took him up on it. So

706
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.760
James Fat Boy Nelson pled guilty to one charge of

707
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.559
conspiracy to commit second degree murder, three counts of forcible rape,

708
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.559
one count of second degree kidnapping, and one count of

709
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:27.679
armed robbery. He avoided the death penalty, but he was

710
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.639
sentenced to sixty years, So I mean he would dan

711
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:36.239
near be eighty whenever he got out. So funny little

712
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:38.480
side story of God. It interject here because you're gonna

713
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.199
want to know this. When I went and I had

714
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.639
coffee with Matt's mama, Miss Teresa, this week, she told

715
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.239
me this and it it cracked me up, and so

716
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.800
I'm gonna share it with you. So when Fat Boy

717
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:54.039
was sentenced and was headed to go to Angola. He begged,

718
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.679
he begged, please, no, no, no, no, no, please, please

719
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.119
don't take me to Angola. Take me somewhere else. I

720
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:01.840
want you to know why he was begging for that.

721
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.400
It was because when he was in the jail in

722
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:10.639
West Baton Rouge, he was being raped. He was being raped,

723
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.960
and he was scared to go to Angola. So that's

724
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:17.840
all allegedly. Of course I don't have that in a

725
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:21.440
police report. But in the words of Jojo Sewa, Karma's

726
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.639
a bitch. Should have known better and they took his

727
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.960
ass off to Angola. Now, Daniel Garcia was charged with

728
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:34.559
second degree murder, three counts of aggravated rape, armed robbery,

729
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:39.800
and second degree kidnapping, and he pled guilty after jury

730
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:44.320
selection to that second degree murder and in exchange, the

731
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:48.679
state would dismiss all of the remaining charges. But right

732
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:52.400
before sentencing, Daniel comes back and he files a motion

733
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.559
to withdraw his guilty plea.

734
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.199
But the judges like, naham, I'm not playing with this.

735
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.599
No, he denied the motion and he sentenced him to

736
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:02.840
serve law life imprisonment at hard labor without the benefit

737
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.800
of probation, parolar, suspension of sentence, and his ass was

738
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:09.639
also shipped off to Angola. And now is where your

739
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:14.280
jaw shall dropeth. It was Michael's turn for trial, and

740
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.639
his defense team filed what's called a demand for notice

741
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.920
of any bad acts that the state planned to bring

742
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.119
up and use against him in trial. Basically, were there

743
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.599
any other things that he had done that the state

744
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.920
was going to use as part of their case? And

745
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:33.519
in response, the state said, oh yeah, We're definitely going

746
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:37.800
to be using some other bad acts against him, including

747
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.679
a murder that Michael Garcia committed in Tampa, Florida, just

748
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.159
two months before killing Matt.

749
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.360
Yes, you heard that right.

750
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.239
Remember the RV that the men were traveling in but

751
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:56.320
it broke down well, that belonged to a fifty eight

752
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:00.360
year old named Bessie Davis, and Miss Bessie had lived

753
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.480
in Tampa for about three years. She worked as a

754
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.360
security guard, just a blue collar individual, just doing her thing.

755
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.159
She was a mother of two daughters, Michelle and Alicia.

756
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.599
She was a good woman and the only real link

757
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:18.119
that I could find between her and the killers was

758
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:22.760
that fat Boy was originally from that area. And remember

759
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.639
they're all running together at this time, the brothers and

760
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.039
fat Boy. Well. Miss Bessie had been discovered on January thirteenth,

761
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:31.920
two thousand and six, in her home, which is right

762
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.519
next to the Gibsonton United Methodist Church if you're from

763
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.079
that area, but she had been dead for a few days.

764
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:41.280
According to the medical examiner, she had suffered from upper

765
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:46.599
body trauma and sexual assault. She had been beaten about

766
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.159
the head and the chest with the dumbbell and stabbed

767
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:55.440
to death with a machete. But not before these bastards

768
00:42:56.199 --> 00:43:02.599
bound her, covered her face with masking tape and anally

769
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.000
raped her with a vibrator.

770
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.280
A fifty eight year old mother.

771
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.599
And from what I understand, the whole reason they met

772
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:18.800
her was that she was trying to help them. She

773
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.119
had come across them, she felt bad for them and

774
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.559
was trying to help them, and that is how they

775
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.920
repaid that poor woman. And then, as weird as this is,

776
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:33.559
less than thirty six hours after her body was discovered,

777
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.880
her car was stolen and was found set on fire,

778
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:41.079
her home was burglarized, and then obviously they took off

779
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:43.199
with her RV to Louisiana.

780
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.159
That was after her body was found, so they went back,

781
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:48.880
but it doesn't end there.

782
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.800
It took a literal spreadsheet prepared for court to detail

783
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.039
all of the crimes that Michael had committed in the

784
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.880
seven months before the murder of Matt. And what if

785
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:06.239
I told you before Matt was murdered and before Miss

786
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:11.760
Bessie was murdered, Michael was involved in another attempted murder.

787
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.639
Miss Teresa told me that back in Michigan, where Michael

788
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:20.199
was from, he had one small child at the time,

789
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.480
as well as a baby mama who was pregnant. Well

790
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:29.639
Michael's sister, I'm gonna say, allegedly, Lord that baby mama

791
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:35.159
and Michael's child over where Michael planned to kill them.

792
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.360
Yes, his own little.

793
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:43.719
Baby toddler and his baby mama and his unborn child,

794
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:45.559
he planned to kill them.

795
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:47.440
I don't have all of the details on that one.

796
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:48.880
I wouldn't have been able to do it all in

797
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.599
this in this episode anyway, but I can tell you,

798
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.960
thank God that the woman and the child did survive.

799
00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:00.119
But the police wanted to talk to him about another

800
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.559
the woman's murder, so that's whenever he skipped down. But

801
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:10.400
before that would happen, he assaulted his estranged girlfriend at

802
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.920
the time in a wooded area in Lansing, Michigan, which

803
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:17.400
is where the brothers were originally from. And this was

804
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:19.800
sometime in June two thousand and five. You want to

805
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.280
know the details of it. He held a machete to

806
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:26.280
her throat and forced her to perform oral sex on him.

807
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.199
Does that sound familiar? Does that sound like a motive

808
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.960
and an a modus operandi That kind of seems really

809
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:39.800
familiar by this point. Three months later, in Florida, Michael

810
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.440
cut the forehead of his new girlfriend, her name is

811
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:46.679
Shila Keys with a machete during a fight. In what

812
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.960
world are we cutting our girlfriend's heads with machetes when

813
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.880
we get mad? Well, that would be Michael's world. Well,

814
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:56.760
then a man, his name was Daniel Corley. He observed

815
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:00.119
this physical fight that was going on between Michael and Shy,

816
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.239
so he went up trying to be a man's man

817
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.159
and help a woman out and intervene. And that's when

818
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:08.280
Michael turned around, put the machete to him and said,

819
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:15.000
you better back off. So this guy's got a really

820
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.119
strong pattern of problematic behavior, wouldn't you say? And when again,

821
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.440
when I was speaking with Matt's mom, I learned a

822
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.480
few other things that irked me so bad, and I

823
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:25.400
want to tell you about this.

824
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:27.840
When Michael was asked.

825
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:31.159
About the murder in Florida, whenever he was being interrogated,

826
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.039
his response to them was and this is almost a

827
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:36.800
direct quote of miss Teresa. I'm not sure if this

828
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.159
was the direct quote from Michael, but when Michael was

829
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.599
asked about a murder that he was believed to be

830
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.639
involved in in Florida, which I'll tell you is Miss Bessie,

831
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:46.320
they didn't say.

832
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:48.119
A woman's murder though, they just said a murder.

833
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.800
Michael's response to detectives was, are you talking about the

834
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:55.079
man or the woman? The detectives were just as confused

835
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.679
as as you and me right now, because they didn't

836
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:03.599
know about a man being murdered in Florida to So again,

837
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:05.840
I just found this out right before I'm recording this,

838
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:07.880
so I don't have any any more information on that

839
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:09.920
man or what that's about, but that's what was said

840
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.719
in the interrogation room. So, once the RV was stolen

841
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.039
and they made their way to Louisiana, they kept getting

842
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.039
run off by police for trying to camp out under

843
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.639
our interstates. I know at one point he was I

844
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.960
think maybe in maybe the Slide Dell area or something,

845
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.199
but then he ended up they or all of them

846
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.519
ended up in the RV like at the gross Tate exit.

847
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.639
If you're familiar with where I am, that's between Baton

848
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:37.559
Rouge and like Lafayette. So when they stopped them that

849
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:38.360
time in the.

850
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:39.239
Gross Tate area.

851
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:44.719
This is why knowing details about how our systems work matters.

852
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:48.079
It really matters that you're paying attention. And this is

853
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:53.039
not political, This is just knowledge's power. Michael was detained

854
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:58.920
by the police before Matt was murdered for a warrant

855
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:02.840
from Michigan for that attempted murder on his baby, mama

856
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:08.920
and his kid. But whenever Louisiana's police contacted Michigan on

857
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:13.159
the warrant, Michigan declined to act on it. They said, no,

858
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:17.000
don't worry about it now. I know right now you're going,

859
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.920
how could that be? Don't quote me on this, but

860
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.800
from what I understand is, whenever we have these warrants

861
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:28.079
that are put out that if it's so many states away,

862
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:29.719
those states aren't going to take the time or the

863
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.079
money to come and get these people. And I don't

864
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:34.159
know if it was signed, sealed, delivered. I don't know

865
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.639
what exactly the details on that are, and I'm just

866
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:40.039
I'm being completely transparent with you, but either way, he

867
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.239
was in custody and Michigan declined for them to act

868
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:51.039
on that warrant, so he literally walked away from custody

869
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.880
with just a citation and then went on to kill

870
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:58.480
Matt and brutally rape Meghan shortly thereafter. And I'm not

871
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.760
blaming our police in any way. I am blaming our

872
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:06.039
systems in place, rules, regulations, and laws. And this is

873
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:11.039
why criminal justice education matters so much to me, because

874
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.079
if he would have been taken when they had him

875
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.239
in custody, and I'm shaking why I'm saying this, but

876
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.840
Matt would be alive, Megan would not be brutally raped.

877
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:24.679
We could have stopped this.

878
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:28.480
These fuck ups in society continue to offend people over

879
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:33.119
and over and over again, but because they seem to

880
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:37.800
have more leeway and more grace than.

881
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.000
You or me, I don't understand it.

882
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.199
I would have been put under the jail, and he

883
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:47.679
walked off, and as a result, two mothers are now suffering.

884
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.880
One's child is dead and one's child has been victimized

885
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.000
on a level that would take forever to recover from

886
00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:02.199
emotionally at least, and he was in custody. Now, when

887
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.360
Matt was laid to rest, I got to tell you this.

888
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.000
Guess who showed up at the funeral home None other

889
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:14.000
than Hollywood. A true friend was made in less than

890
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.199
a few hours that fateful night. And if you want

891
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:24.000
to know Hollywood's name, his name is Robert Hollywood Peterson.

892
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:26.880
I was able to find his name, and I did

893
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:31.000
want to say it. I wanted to put a face

894
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:38.480
that I don't have, but an identity to the name. Hollywood, though,

895
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:43.400
would remain a very tortured soul after Matt's death, and

896
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:47.480
he carried that weight with him, firmly believing, Oh my god,

897
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.119
if I had not been drunk, I probably could have

898
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.480
saved him that night. I could have protected Megan better,

899
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.719
I could have done all of these things. I feel confident, though,

900
00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:00.760
that Matt and Meghan would absolutely rely leave him and

901
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:01.679
absolve him.

902
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:03.599
Of that pain if they could.

903
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:10.400
Hollywood also testified on Matt's behalf for Matt in court. Now.

904
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:12.119
I wanted to tell you this little detail too, because

905
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.199
you won't know this anywhere else. Hollywood had to be

906
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:20.280
extra duided or transported from California back to Louisiana so

907
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:21.840
that he could do his testifying.

908
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:24.079
And maybe this makes me an.

909
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.920
Asshole, but I loved it because while he was on

910
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.320
the stand and he was asked in court why he

911
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.880
was currently in jail in California, he just chuckled on

912
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.760
the stand and he responded for beating up a sex offender.

913
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:42.880
Hollywood didn't like a sex offender.

914
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:45.719
I can tell you that Hollywood stands on business when

915
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:48.440
it comes to people offending other people in sexual ways.

916
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:52.039
And by the way, the prosecutor in this case was

917
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:56.039
Tony Clayton, which is the exact same prosecutor that prosecuted

918
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.880
the Derek Todd Lee serial killer case that I'm about

919
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.559
to do a multipart, multiple part series on. I know

920
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:02.840
a lot of people have been waiting on that it's

921
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:06.039
coming up. So all of these men have been in

922
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.400
prison now for a while, and then twenty twenty three

923
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:12.199
rolled around, and I want to make sure that you

924
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.000
understand what clemency means before I tell you this next part.

925
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:21.360
So clemency is basically when an inmate files formal paperwork

926
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:27.039
asking the state, the courts whatever for leniency, or for

927
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:30.719
their sentence to be commuted from a death penalty sentence

928
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.280
to life in prison, or this even can go up

929
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:36.320
and asking for a pardon, which is where total forgiveness

930
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.360
is given for their crime as far as the state

931
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:43.960
is concerned. Now, just to add insult to injury, and

932
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:47.559
again this is not political. I don't care what side

933
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.480
of the aisle you're on. You live your life, go America.

934
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:55.960
But I do care when families of victims get revictimized.

935
00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:00.800
And in my opinion, this feels like revictimization because to

936
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:04.880
add insult to injury, the family of Matt and Megan

937
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:09.840
had to listen as Louisiana's former governor, John Bell Edwards

938
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.920
was in the news for his push to change the

939
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:18.480
status of the inmates on death row at Angola, including

940
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:23.679
Michael fucking Garcia. Now what was he wanting to do

941
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.840
in twenty twenty three, He was telling the parole board

942
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:32.320
to hold meetings to see about commuting all of their sentences,

943
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:41.920
to which he would then consider them for pardon for pardon, now,

944
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:43.760
I know what someone saying right now, Well, that doesn't

945
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:46.639
mean he was gonna do it. Okay, even entertaining this

946
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:49.519
and my kids know when my hand comes out like this.

947
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:51.119
If you're watching me right now, when my hand does

948
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:53.239
like this and my head starts by, I mean business, okay,

949
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:58.039
But even entertaining this as a consideration was something that

950
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.880
it just chapped my southern as it made me so angry.

951
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:06.639
Imagine how Matt's family felt, and imagine how Meghan's family

952
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.639
felt they had fought in this court system. That these

953
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:12.760
bastards would never see the light of day again. That

954
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:17.840
a multiple time killer and rapist may just walk out

955
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:20.760
of the gates, That that's just even a possibility is

956
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:26.199
mind blowing to me. I'm not a political pundit and

957
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.639
I don't want to be one. However, I'm gonna speak

958
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:30.519
up when shit like this happens.

959
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:31.360
Now.

960
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.800
Luckily, Michael Garcia was not released, but I will let

961
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.559
you know that John Bell Edwards did commute fifty six

962
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:43.119
inmates sentences forty convicted of first or second degree murder.

963
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.679
I don't think personally, and I just I'm saying this

964
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:49.840
for you to think about things in your own state,

965
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:53.039
wherever you are. But I don't think that a governor

966
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:57.000
should have the power over all of the constituents of

967
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:02.320
the state that have respectfully done their duties as jurors

968
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:05.559
to just have one man, with the strike of a

969
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:09.119
pen overturn it all. Not in the case of murder

970
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:11.400
at least, I'm sorry. I will never agree with that.

971
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:16.119
These twelve jurors listened, they weighed the information, they measured

972
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:18.039
what was told to them, and they came up with

973
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:24.519
their decision. Unbelievable that one person could could overthrow that. Now, Megan,

974
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:26.840
I'm gonna give you some updates. Meghan eventually moved back

975
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:29.320
home with her mother, and she even got to take

976
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:31.440
her precious pup, Lola with her.

977
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:33.039
The one that was with her through all of this.

978
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:38.199
Three years after she moved home, Meghan went on a

979
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:40.920
trip to go visit some friends in Portland. She was

980
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:44.239
very excited to go see these friends. Now in the

981
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.840
Portland area, the train stations have multiple tracks that are

982
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.679
lined up next to one another, and they're all flat

983
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:55.280
and level from what I understand. And so while Meghan

984
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:59.199
was walking three years after all of this happened, she

985
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.000
turned left and accidentally walked onto an active track and

986
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.400
was hit and instantly killed on impact by a train.

987
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.239
So I don't really have a lot of good news

988
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.800
for Megan. Meghan went through a lot, and Meghan is

989
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:20.760
now resting eternally. What I can tell you is that

990
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:26.199
after Matt's death, she really began to search for her truth.

991
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:31.400
She started to explore the idea of God, which I

992
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:33.920
know is a blessing in the hearts of those who

993
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:36.239
have prayed for her soul and people that would hope

994
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:36.760
that for her.

995
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:41.079
And so I think that.

996
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:46.480
I hope that Meghan and matter together and that we

997
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:48.400
can find some type of peace in that. You know,

998
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:51.639
there's been multiple tragedies in her poor mother. My heart

999
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:55.199
aches for her mother. I can give you some happy

1000
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:57.760
news here though, and I can report that that baby

1001
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.559
in the beginning, in the beginning of this story, Caleb,

1002
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:03.800
remember that baby that Matt was gonna go visit and

1003
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:08.400
see he's alive and well today. Matt was right when

1004
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:11.519
he told his mom all those years ago, it'll be alright, Mom,

1005
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.079
just like Bob Marley, every little thing's gonna be all right.

1006
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.599
Matt's brother, Daniel and his girlfriend of the time, they

1007
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:21.599
took a trip to Europe to see it for Matt.

1008
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.639
Because Matt dreamed to go to Europe and he also

1009
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:28.000
dreamed to travel all of the US and the fifty States.

1010
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.719
And this is where I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna put

1011
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.840
a request out to my listeners. This is probably my

1012
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:36.199
first real call to action. It does not cost a thing,

1013
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:37.880
just a minute of your time.

1014
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:39.679
I want it.

1015
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.199
It's my personal goal that me and my listeners and

1016
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:44.599
maybe any of your friends that you might could share

1017
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:48.280
this with. I want Matt to make it all over

1018
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:50.440
the world, and I want us to be a part

1019
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:51.960
of it. I want to do that for his mother.

1020
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.280
My goal is that we can do this together and

1021
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.320
make it happen. So if you want to help, wherever

1022
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:01.440
you are in the world listening to this, if you

1023
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:06.000
could write Matt's tag on a piece of paper or

1024
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:08.800
whatever however you want to do it, his tag nests

1025
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:13.559
five o four n ees five o four and then

1026
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.400
write the city and the state or wherever you are.

1027
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:19.199
If you will take a picture of that with you

1028
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:22.079
in the area. I'm gonna compile it and put it

1029
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:25.599
all together. And I want to log his travels through US.

1030
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:28.440
I think that would just be amazing. And the sites

1031
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.199
that we can just let Matt see through us. I'm

1032
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.760
gonna post mine on my socials so you can feel

1033
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:36.480
free to tag me or stitch it on TikTok or whatever.

1034
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:39.840
I'm gonna post mine the day that this release is

1035
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:42.480
on Wednesday, I'm gonna do mine. So look for that,

1036
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:45.320
and I'll continue to update you on where he's been.

1037
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:46.960
And I'm also going to share this with his precious

1038
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:51.519
Mama once we get the ball rolling. Even today, twenty

1039
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.480
years later, Miss Teresa told me that when she sees

1040
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:57.159
a guy hitchhiking with the dog, she said, I see

1041
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.679
my son. I see it in every hitchhiker and every dog,

1042
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:03.519
and she usually stops and she hands them some money,

1043
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:04.199
just as.

1044
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.000
Mister Gary always did his stepdad.

1045
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:12.239
Time will never heal wounds, nor will a death sentence

1046
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:16.199
bring closure, but it is a way to keep others

1047
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:21.519
safe from monsters like Michael Garcia and the others. So

1048
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:26.119
when people want to feel soft hearted towards inmates, specifically

1049
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:30.119
the ones on death row, I would rather they hear

1050
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:36.599
Matt's story first, in all of its brutal honesty. I'm

1051
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:41.119
so sick of the current sentiment that justice needs to

1052
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:45.800
come wrapped in kindness and second chances every time, because

1053
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:50.159
the fact is, guys, not everybody is redeemable. These men

1054
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:54.079
didn't hesitate when they snuffed out an innocent life and

1055
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:58.800
gang raped another, So why the hell should we. No

1056
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:03.719
mercy was given to Matthew or Megan, none, and no

1057
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:08.880
apologies to date have been sent from either of the

1058
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:13.719
Garcia brothers, and mercy to me is for the remorseful

1059
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:19.440
of which these men have shown none zero. So everyone

1060
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.760
who thinks I mean can spare me the moral gymnastics

1061
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:24.800
and we should just get to the nut cutting. The

1062
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:28.079
death penalty was handed down for Michael, so get after it,

1063
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:31.440
and let's quit acting like we the people need to

1064
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:34.880
show restraint while society is out here mopping up carnage

1065
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:39.119
everywhere that bastard has been because, honey, I'm gonna tell

1066
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.719
you this, Michael Garcia was already dead inside.

1067
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.360
All we're assisting in is having his body catch up