Vigilante Part 2 | The Gary Plauche Story

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime
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with real victims, whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how

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combined with my years as a criminal
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of evil acts, some so evil
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I'm back for another episode of Unspeakable. I know you missed me last

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week, but I'm back and I'm
going to make sure that you get a

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long episode in the conclusion the Gary
Ploche story. But before I get into

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that, y'all, I got so
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just exciting news. Can y'all freaking
believe that the first live sold out in

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what two days? I was shocked, you know, I'm proud as punch.

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I just was dumbfounded. I'm so
excited that I get to meet all

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of you in person and then give
you a live show. But a lot

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of people were sad because they said, wait a minute, and we didn't

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get our tickets. Some people said
I was waiting for pay days. Some

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people said, oh no, I
was gonna get on. I didn't realize

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how fast they would go, but
they did so lucky for you this morning.

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As of the time that I'm recording
this. We just secured a second

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date and it's gonna be Saturday,
the twenty ninth of July. Go in

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there, get you a ticket.
They're selling fast already. They've only been

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live, I think for two hours
and they're just flying out. So go

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get you a ticket there. And
that second date's been added. You asked,

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stamped my foot, snarled and blue
smoke at Jimothy and I said,

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Jimothy, make it happen. And
actually none of that happened. He was

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like, Kelly, we're gonna make
a second date because it's a high demand.

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And I was like, do it, boy, and he did.

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So go get you a ticket,
y'all. I can't wait. It's going

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to be a blast of a great
show too. It's a great story and

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I think you're going to really enjoy
it. But let's jump into part two

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of a Father's Revenge, the Gary
Plochet story. Now, quick recap.

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Remember when I left off that you
know, Jeff was Jeff Dusette was a

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karate instructor who had weaseled his way
into this family and had started taking a

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lot of advantage of one of the
children, which was Jody, And you

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know a lot, a lot of
parents say that they would do anything for

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their children. But this case,
I'm telling you it's one of those legends.

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This is what legends are made of. Trust me, beast mode engaged

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on this one, all right.
So remember, if you're just you know

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what, if you're new and you're
just starting to listen, go back in

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episode. Go listen to the first
part because I don't want to spoil it

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for you if you hadn't heard the
first part, But go back because this

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is a part two. But this
story takes a place where I grew up

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in the great study of Louisiana Baton
Rouge to be exact. And let me

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tell you something. Yeah, we
maybe last in education and poverty stricken,

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but damn it, we know how
to cook. We know how to have

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fun in a muddy bayou. We
hunt, we fish, and we love

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every day. And some may even
say that we're a drinking town with a

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football problem. But Gary Ploche took
advantage of all of it, all right.

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So that's Jody's daddy, And we're
back in nineteen eighty four and Gary

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was having some trouble controlling himself and
his wife June was fed up she had

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asked Gary to leave with a great
deal of sadness. Gary left and moved

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in with his parents and they would
alternate custody of the kids, you know,

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every other weekend. And where we
left off last episode, Jody's uncle,

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if you remember, he saw Jeff
Doosett kiss Jody, who's eleven,

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on the lips, and the uncle
became irate. Everyone dismissed it though as

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trying to get back at Jeff,
because Jeff the night before had popped his

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son in the head like kind of
like boy quip, you know, gave

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him a little pop on the head, and the uncle got mad because the

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kid got mad. Now, also
remember Gary, Jody's father, felt sorry

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for Jeff because Jeff was just barely
scraping by. Gary invited him over for

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dinners. He had somewhat befriended him
and really embraced, you know, Jeff

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and the family. However, do
not take Gary Ploche for a fool,

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okay, because he's not. Eventually, y'all, he would grow suspicious the

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more Jeff start was coming around.
He could not put his finger on it

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at first, okay, but he
began wondering, you know, Jeff is

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here a lot. Is ha having
a relationship with June right, you know

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there he separated from his wife,
and he started asking his kids, you

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know, hey, is Jeff staying
over? Has he been spending the night

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as he's staying over a lot?
And the kids always said, no,

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Daddy, that's not what's happening.
He's not here. But Gary knew something

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was a miss in his soul.
He just couldn't put his finger on it.

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Now we know at this point Jeff
has been doing more than spending just

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extra time with Jody, but his
parents don't. He's been raping and molesting

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eleven year old Jody for about a
year. But Jody is so fearful to

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upset his already damaged family and home
he just doesn't say anything. And at

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the same time, Jeff begins really
confiding in Jody about his problems and also

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his future plans, and you get
the feeling that, you know, poor

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Jody's almost playing the role of Jeff's
like significant other, even though it's not

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a willing participation. That's kind of
how Jeff is treating it in his skewed

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world. But remember, Jody is
eleven. Please don't let that get lost

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in the story. He is eleven
years old, y'all. He's not even

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a teenager yet. He's a little
boy. So Jeff begins telling Jody the

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plans that he has this desire to
go to California. He says he has

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fond memories of California, and the
courts, if you recall, are after

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Jeff. They want that fifteen thousand
dollars that he owed people. And Jeff's

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world is caving in on him.
His schemes are catching up with him.

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You know, when I worked at
Angola, there was something I always did

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tours there little side note, and
I would always warn people before we would

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walk in to talk to the end
because they would always get to talk to

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some of the inmates and just I
mean, I hate to like smoke screening

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here, but usually it's just the
inmates that spoke really well and we're kind

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of entertaining. But I would always
tell the people, please do not let

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this show of charisma and they're sad
sob Puppy's story. Please don't let that,

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you know, make you forget that
they've done something very serious to put

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them behind these bars. And the
first three letters in convict are what and

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everybody in the bus would always go
con always remember that, right, Well,

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Jeff is no different. His schemes
were catching up to him. And

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you know, also it's kind of
funny, but criminals do this thing where

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they they freak out and they assume
that the police know more than they do,

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Okay, kind of like when you're
a kid, I guess and you

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you know you did something wrong and
everything your mom or dad says, You're

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like, oh, do they know? Criminals do that? Okay, Like

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on a traffic stop, they literally
get pulled over for speeding and then they'll

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end up in a shootout with the
police who have no idea they just robbed

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a bank. You know, it's
almost comical if it wasn't just tragic.

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But you know, I think Jeff
was kind of in this situation where he

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kind of thought that the adults may
be on to him. I don't know

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if that he thought they were on
to him about Jody necessarily, but people

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were starting to figure out that Jeff
was kind of a con man and he

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was not worth what he put out
there that he was worth. And if

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they weren't onto him now, he
figured they would be soon. So he

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needed to take his and I call
it quote unquote possession meaning Jody, and

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leave before anyone could find out anymore
about them or hold his feet to the

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fire for the crime that he was
committing both financially fraudulently and then sexually criminally

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against Jody. So it's about this
time that Jeff drops a bomb on Jody.

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He looks him in the face,
this eleven year old boy, and

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he says, look, I'm leaving
Jody, but I'm taking you with me.

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You're coming with me. And inside
Jody was scared, and he absolutely

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did not want to go with Jeff. There's no question there. He did

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not want to go. However,
again, because he was a child and

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because it was hard to understand the
long term effects of decisions, he reluctantly

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just went along with Jeff's plan because
he feared what Jeff might do if he

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didn't agree. And it just hurts
my heart because I can see this little

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boy who's scared, who can't see
the long term effects of Oh my god,

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if I like run away with Jeff, I may not come back.

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Right. Kids don't look that far
in the future. That's why we don't

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hold kids accountable in court for their
actions when they're little They don't foresee the

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long term effects of what they're doing, and Jody was no different. He

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just knew that if he did not
agree, he was afraid Jeff would do

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something. So as if it's everything
so far of you know, if it's

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just not enough to make your blood
boil, everything he's been doing to this

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boy, it infuriates me that Jeff
would get jealous of Jody wanting to spend

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time with others than himself, and
he did. He acted like a scorned

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lover almost, you know, he'd
get mad at Jody for not wanting to

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spend every waking moment with Jeff.
And I'm just like ill, you know,

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you're a grown ass man, a
grown ass man with a beard and

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a hairy asshole, and you're using
over a little boy. And it makes

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me want to vomit, right,
And honestly, iime, can you it

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kind of inspires my you know,
justice driven inner serial killer, Like it

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makes me so angry when people prey
on children. But that's what Jeff did.

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And Jody, you know, he
you know, Jody is scared of

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Jeff, but he's also smart enough
to assess and properly so that at this

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point Jeff is sick like mentally.
Now, don't get it twisted, all

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right. I don't mean sick like
he needs a pill. I mean sick

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like he needs a solid ass whooping. But I don't get the feeling Jody.

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You know, a child wanted Jeff
hurt necessarily. He just wanted Jeff

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to stop hurting him. If that
makes sense, I don't. It's almost

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like as a child. I don't
see from what I've read and learned that

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Jody had he hated what Jeff did, but I don't know that he necessarily

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hated Jeff because he thought he was
a friend. It's like that misplaced love

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for someone, and it's heartbreaking,
you know, to even say that a

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child would have more empathy for his
adult abuser than the adult and that just

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isn't the proper order of the world. But that's kind of what was going

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on. And to fully understand that
hole that Jeff had on Jody, she

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on this little nugget. Jeff was
secretly sleeping in the storeroom at Jody's house.

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Unbeknownst to Jody's mom. Jeff was
telling everybody that he was living at

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his brother's house when really he had
been You know, asking Jody to bring

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him blankets and to hold the secret. Hey, I'm actually sleeping out in

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your garage, out in your storeroom, but don't tell anybody. And in

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all reality, Jeff had been kicked
out of his brother's house after a fight,

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okay, and as usual, he
had Jody shouldering the weight of his

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problems and manipulated him into thinking that
he was actually helping by lying to his

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own mother. That's scary. You
know, you're going to learn a lot

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more about Jeff. But to know
that there's a grown man sleeping in your

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garage and you don't even know,
and your child feels like he has to

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hold this secret, you know,
where he's not being loyal to his friend.

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It's just so twisted. Eventually,
though, Judy did find the blankets

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and would question Jody about it,
but Jody lied to protect pooral Jeff,

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you know, his friend. Now, Judy wasn't an idiot though, all

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right, And she was worried about
And this makes me think of my own

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mama here. What would the neighbors
think. Judy didn't want anyone thinking that

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she was in a romantic relationship or
anything with Jeff, and she feared someone

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might say something and she would lose
her kids or something. It just didn't

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set right with her now. Jeff
eventually came over one day like normal,

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and he asked Judy, Hey,
Judy, can I borrow your car?

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Right he was on hard time,
I need to borrow your car and he

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said, I've got this carpet installation
job that I need to go do.

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Fun fact hashtag that wasn't true.
What do you know? He's lying again.

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But Judy agreed. It wasn't out
of the norm for her to help

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him out. He said Jody could
go with him if he wanted to,

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which again wasn't out of the norm. He would go to the store and

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they would hang out. So remember, you know, Judy agreed because they

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trusted Jeff. Even though they thought
something was off, they still trusted Jeff.

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And boom, Jody and Jeff were
gone in the car and just like

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that, that's simple. Jeff had
kidnapped Jody from his mother without even so

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much as a fight. Remember,
Jeff was charming. He weaseled his way

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into the family dynamic and he built
trust. And that is what is scary

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about offenders like Jeff. You never
see them coming, which means you never

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see them going with your child.
It's so common, it's scary, and

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it's sad. They are that good, y'all. It's not stupid parents,

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it's skilled con men that make these
tragedies happen. Good people lose their children

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because of really, really talented con
men. And I often wonder how many

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missing children met this very same fate
and the perpetrator is still looking the parents

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in the face innocently. Really think
about that. Children go missing all the

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time and we never hear from them
again. Like Pennywise from the Fricking Drain,

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a fucking evil clown excuse of a
human being plays you like a fiddle

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and your child goes missing. It's
not because you're a bad parent either,

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it's because they're that good. And
that's what he did. He kidnapped Jody

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and he left with him. He
takes him without even a fight, and

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it just it trips me out.
So, okay, the good news is

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this, though, when a child
goes missing, and you need to know

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this, police don't have to wait
twenty four hours to respond like they do

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with an adult. So you hear
it all the time on TV, and

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obviously if you're listening to this podcast. You like crime, and you always

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hear, oh, we have to
wait twenty four hours. We have to

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wait twenty four hours. You do
not have to wait twenty four hours when

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it comes to a child. Think
about the Casey Anthony case, right,

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her kid was gone thirty one days
and she never made a report. That's

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a felony. Now that case made
change. How in the hell can you

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not report your child missing? You
know a kid under the age of ten

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who depends on someone, Well,
Judy was the same. Her baby went

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missing. Jeff never returned her baby. When Jeff takes Jody, a total

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of nine days would go by and
June, y'all, is in a panic.

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She does what any mother would do. She's not even eating, she's

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waiting by the phone. She's calling
everyone she can think of. Where in

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the hell did he take my son? And a nationwide man hunt would actually

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ensue over this. Jeff though,
y'all, he really didn't have a plan

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for all of his scheming, all
of his conniving, He did not have

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a plan. So overall he just
claimed, and this is kind of twisted,

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that he wanted June to meet him
and that they would become a family

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to become a family together. But
that's a bit construed considering he's raping her

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child. Don't you think I think
that claim is just a cover for his

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more sadistic wants. I don't buy
that. I just that's sorry. I

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don't buy that. When Jeff takes
Jody, immediately Jeff decides, look,

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we're gonna take the car, but
we're gonna go get a bus and we're

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gonna take off into the sunset.
Now what does he do when they get

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on the bus? I know you
want to know, right, does he

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feed Jody? Did they talk about
the plan? Does he ask him are

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you okay? Are you scared?
Nope? He doesn't. He actually goes

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and makes friends with some old ladies, which he was probably trying to steal

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their money. I don't know.
He shaves his beard, clearly not because

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he wanted to change his appearance or
anything, right sarcasm. But then he

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promptly begins making out with some random
woman on the bus, Like what you

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know, I'm always shocked, how
to hell all these people always just find

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somebody willing to sleep with him and
suck face with him on a bus,

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because like I worked hard to find
me a good husband, a good man

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like and there are just people out
here making out with random women on a

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bus. What a kid they kidnapped
anyway, because that's normal, right,

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but strangely and I thought this was
interesting. And when you're getting into the

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psyche of a kid who's been kidnapped
and is also a rape victim, Jodie

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mentions that he was actually jealous in
a weird way because Jeff took him but

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was giving attention to someone else.
And I think there's such honesty in that.

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You know that he says he was
jealous, because that's a weird emotion

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to say there because he didn't want
to be raped. He did not want

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to be having sex with Jeff.
But in a way, it's kind of

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like it's not sexual jealousy. It's
more of so, you kidnap me and

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you're abusing me, but then you're
you're going to ignore me for someone else.

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I kind of like, what a
situation to be in as a kid,

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to be so confused and have this
misplaced understanding of what the relationship is,

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and then also proving his ability to
oversee the child he's been raping.

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He looks at Jody and then he
offers Jody the opportunity to quote unquote do

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her if he wants to do you
want to do her? Jody say,

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fucking kid, y'all. It's an
eleven year old kid who has been kidnapped,

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and this pervert's over here making out
with random women and then offering for

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this kid to jump in on it. It's just it's sick. It's twisted,

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and it is sick. I mean, in the meantime, a mental

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patient on the same bus gets kicked
off the bus forgiven BJ's to people like,

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clearly he's taken this child to a
safe place. Can you imagine what

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in the hell is going on on
this bus? And this kid is just

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sitting there, like, what has
happened? I had of a good family.

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How am I here? You know? Now Jody ends up falling asleep

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after looking at Jeff like he's a
freaking psycho, and he finds himself on

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skid row in California. And I
know that this happened back in the eighties,

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but the mother in me is like
cringing, and I'm scared, and

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I even know the outcome of the
story. But in this moment, when

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I found out that Jody was on
skid Row with a rapist. It just

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everything in me hurts, you know, I want to go save this kid.

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What in the ever loving world must
Jody have been feeling at that point.

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You know, he's far away from
home and he's in a mind now

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to show how conniving Jeff really was. They were completely out of money when

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they got to skid Row, but
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He bought a karate magazine when he
got to a store, and Jeff

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calls a man named al Garza from
that karate fighting magazine and he claims to

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this guy that his van was stolen
on a karate trip with these kids.

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And he asked Garza, hey,
you know we're like in this karate family

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together, right, like you and
me? Bro. Is there any way

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that you would be able to help
a fellow, you know, karate instructor

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out. Would you be able to
wire me five hundred and fifty dollars to

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help Cohn number one? Would you
ever think to do that? Just as

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a normal sane individual. I think
I would go sit on the corner and

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put my chin in my hands and
pout before I would think to go con

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somebody from a magazine out of some
money. But then, in an attempt

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to make even more money, Jeff, who cares for Jody so much,

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asks him, Hey, will you
sleep with men for money to help us

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out? Can I pump you out? Which Jody emphatically declined to do.

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That would be a no, I'm
not going to do that. Kudos did

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the kid for standing up for himself. It's just to me amazing that they

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weren't killed either, because, by
the way, both Jodi and Jeff had

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the same level of education. They're
both in skid row on a sixth grade

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education level. Like the blind leading
the blind here. But remember, Jeff

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had charm and he had charisma,
as most convicts and con men do.

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He was a former marine, he
had a black belt, he was outgoing,

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he was strong, so he had
what it took to con people that

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that's what he was good at.
So they do get that money and they

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go find a tell and as heartbreaking
and as gut wrenching as it is,

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this is the night that Jeff,
because he has total access to Jody with

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nobody around, he forces Jody,
eleven year old boy, to have sex

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with him all night long. I
don't know what the feeling is right there,

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but it's you know, I don't
know, I don't know how you're

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supposed to feel about that. This
kid, you know, and nobody can

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protect him. He's stuck. So
like the typical groomer, right of a

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pedophile groomer. The next day,
when they wake up, he does something

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fun with Jody. He takes him
to Disneyland. What a twisted like okay,

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Michael Jackson, like, what are
you doing? But he takes them

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to Disney World. They ride rides, they eat all of the food,

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they have fun, and it just
seems like such a pedophile thing to do,

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be horrendous to a child all night
long against their will. But then

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quote unquote make it better, put
a band aid on it with a trip

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to a theme park. So,
in a feeble attempt to also hide Jody,

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Jeff would soon make Jody go and
they would dye his hair. His

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hair was like a lighter blond color. He would dye his hair jet black.

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So it's not like Jeff isn't trying
to connive and scheme and change his

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appearance either. He wanted to keep
him. And then, strangely enough,

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Jeff makes Jody call home which was
kind of bizarre to me. And Jody

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gets to talk to his mama for
the first time since he had been taken,

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and I can't fathom what the relief
in poor Jody's you know, his

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poor mama must have felt in that
moment, only to be filled with complete,

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sheer terror that your child's been taken
and you can't find him. You

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know, now, don't think for
a second that Jody's family just sat there

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and did nothing. Once they realized
he had been taken. They were frantically

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looking for him in this timeframe.
Jody's uncle even had driven to Texas and

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found Jeff's mother's place to try to
go track him down there, and they

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just weren't there. Remember, though, Jeff was literally like a transient at

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this point. He didn't have a
car other than Jody's MoMA's and he didn't

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have that anymore, So it's not
like they could be looking for that car.

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They weren't a bus. He had
no real money, Jeff had no

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credit card, so it's not like
they could track him down through purchasing of

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a credit card for a location.
And y'all were in the nineteen eighties.

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Nobody has a cell phone you know
what I'm saying. You can't just track

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a cell phone. Maybe you had
like a bag phone in your car,

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like those huge bagphone things at four
dollars a minute, but there was no

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modern day technology to track him and
to track Jody. I mean, what

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an absolute task to know this whole
world is out there and your kid's gone.

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Now. Jeff's sister, her name
was Elda, would tell Jody when

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he got there to excuse me,
tell Jody's uncle when he got there looking

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for them, that maybe they ought
to know something. And his uncle's like,

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okay, what what do we need
to know? And he's like,

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she goes, you know, Jeff
is actually a child molester. Right.

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My jaw dropped when I found that
out. He was already known by his

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family to abuse kids, and now
is the time you decide to drop that

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bomb on everybody? I mean,
good god, what in the hell?

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And from other things I've researched and
and some other avenues I went down to

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learn about this story, Jeff's family
spoke to Jody's family. It's not like

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they didn't know one another, and
you knew he was a molester, and

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you never thought to bring that up
to somebody, So the FBI would be

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involved by this point, and they
would tap the ochet's phones and Jeff would

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claim when they made the phone call
that they were in New York when he

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spoke to June, but the FBI
knew better they had her. June asked

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Jeff what time is it to see
what he would say, and when he

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gave the time, the FBI knew
he was lying because the time he gave

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was wrong for the time that it
should have been in New York, which

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is pretty smooth, right way to
go. FBI will played my boys,

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so just simply figuring out that he's
got to be lying because the time isn't

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correct. And Jody would again talk
to his mother and was so excited to

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talk to her that he kind of
went on a little you know, word

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vomit and was saying all sorts of
stuff, and he mentioned, Mama,

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guess what. I got to see
a live movie being taped while we were

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here. It happened right there in
front of me on the street, and

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you know, me and Jeff were
out and about walking, and they did

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that. They took the scene over
and over again, and I got to

405
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.079
watch it happen and June said,
really, son, what movie was it?

406
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:07.559
And Jody replied, Mama, it's
The Hill Street Blues BINGO. The

407
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.200
FBI then made their phone calls and
they found out where The Hill Street Blues

408
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.839
was being filmed, and they narrowed
down the actual location of where they were

409
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.519
so pretty smooth. They just kept
them talking and were able to figure out

410
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:26.839
their approximate location. The other mistake
Jeff made was that because he was broke,

411
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:32.799
when he was calling the Plochet home
or letting Jody call home, he

412
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:37.640
had them calling collect Well. Judy, being a smart little lady that she

413
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.440
is, she asked the phone company
for the cost of the call and the

414
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:47.599
location of where the call had originated, and they were able to verify it

415
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:53.640
for her and the actual location was
Anaheim, California. Now thirty eight that's

416
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:59.359
going to come into play in this
little story here. Thirty eight has got

417
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:07.200
to be Jeff's most unluckiest number ever. Why well, they were in hotel

418
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:15.839
room number thirty eight, Gary Ploche, Jody's daddy was thirty eight years old,

419
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:21.960
and the number thirty eight with a
dot before it will come into play

420
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:30.319
here shortly as in a thirty eight
my friends okay. Shortly after the calls

421
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.480
were made, officers were able to
find the hotel where they were through the

422
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:40.039
phone calls, and or the officers
would storm the hotel with their guns drawn.

423
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.920
And one officer politely exclaimed to Jeff, and this is a direct quote,

424
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.799
I ought to punch you in your
fucking mouth. Right. Well,

425
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:53.119
step aside, sir, because you
ain't met met Big Papa ge Ploche yet.

426
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.440
A punch ak will be much in
the long run. But now,

427
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:04.440
Jody, y'all, he's still a
kid, right, And he says that

428
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.880
he was initially mad when he watched
the police come in and arrest his friend

429
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.640
Jeff. You know, they put
him in cuffs, and it was just

430
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.880
upsetting to Jody, Wait, what
are you doing? This is my friend,

431
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.079
because remember Jody saw Jeff as a
friend, not as an abuser.

432
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.319
It was like a misplaced affection at
best. But perception is reality to anyone,

433
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.279
and that includes a kid. Sure, he's doing these horrible things to

434
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.599
me I don't like, but he's
also my friend. And we go and

435
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.599
we watch movies get filmed, and
we go to Disney World. And it's

436
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.480
not that he's like a child,
like a five year old, but he's

437
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:40.519
still a kid. Immediately, just
almost immediately, Jody begins being questioned about

438
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.920
sexual abuse he may have endured,
and Jody would lie. I can't imagine

439
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:52.200
the range of emotions this kid was
dealing with, but I can imagine that

440
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.680
as a young boy, and the
societal standards that we set for boys and

441
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:02.519
their manhood, it must have been
overwhelmingly humiliating to have to think about telling

442
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:07.319
male detectives what he had been dealing
with, let alone, he didn't know

443
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.839
these men, and I can see
why that would be a lot, you

444
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.640
know, And just as a bit
of information for you today, if sexual

445
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.960
abuse is something that you ever encounter
with the child that you love or that

446
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.000
you know, we do things a
little differently today. It's called a c

447
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.759
AC interview, and this is for
kids who may have experienced any type of

448
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.960
trauma. But c AC stands for
a Child Advocacy Center and you have these

449
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.400
everywhere throughout the United States because kids
need to be handled with care, you

450
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.920
know, in essence, after a
trauma has occurred, and that's the purpose

451
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.440
of the CIAC interview. They take
place in like a comfortable room with it's

452
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.680
got soft seating, it's got couches, stuffed animals, they can color,

453
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:52.839
and even if they're not little bittie
kids, it's still a comfortable setting to

454
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.680
take away stress from the child and
hopefully they would be more likely to talk.

455
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.640
And here the kids are going to
be asked non leading questions and then

456
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.200
the kids, hopefully we'll share what
they can and what do I mean by

457
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.159
non leading? Today? We are
not going to look Jody in the face

458
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.119
and say did he rape you?
You know, did he stick his penis

459
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.679
in your butt? That's not how
the questioning would go today. It'd be

460
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.480
more like, hey, Jody,
you know how old are you? Buddy?

461
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.239
All right, tell me what's going
on? You know where you've been

462
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.480
in the last few days. And
they're not leading questions, they're just letting

463
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:30.960
the kid take control and share at
their will and discretion. Now, these

464
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:37.880
interviews are also always filmed, which
is important, and commonly there'll be another

465
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:44.239
child advocate that's listening in and assessing
from another room, and the person that's

466
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.360
in the room with the actual child
would be wearing an earpiece, and so

467
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:54.239
both advocates could kind of discreetly share
information to help them during that interview process

468
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:59.119
and help with the questioning, because
again, if you lead, then that

469
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:00.719
could be a problem court if it
came to it that, oh will you

470
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:05.239
put that in the kid's head?
All right, But Jody would continue to

471
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.400
lie when he was questioned about if
he was raped or anything had happened to

472
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:14.719
him. But one thing he knew
for certain was that he was given an

473
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:19.840
exam at the hospital where swabs had
been taken, amongst a whole lot of

474
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.280
other testing, and he may have
been a kid, but he realized,

475
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.360
look, I can lie right now. But he also knew when those tests

476
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.440
come back, the science isn't gonna
lie. He knew in his heart Jeff

477
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:35.199
was going to be busted for what
he had done, but he just didn't

478
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.800
want it to be him saying it, you know, he didn't want to

479
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.920
be the one that said it.
The doctors had done rectal exams, they

480
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:50.199
had done oral exams on him.
Even during the testing, Jody still continued

481
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.079
to lie. However, I'm telling
you, the truth is going to get

482
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.320
know home one way or the other. And it was in due time and

483
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.400
just kind of an off topic thing. Odie did write a book about his

484
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:06.840
experiences and something It's not funny,
but Jody has an interesting sense of humor,

485
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:08.719
but this was kind of funny.
He said, I just couldn't believe,

486
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.119
you know, basically, like all
the things they were doing to me.

487
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:17.000
And then he says something to the
effect of and doctor jelly hands and

488
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.039
the huge swabs, talking about you
know, like the jelly they used to

489
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.599
do the exam. Whatever you said, doctor jelly jelly hands and the huge

490
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.639
swab. He said, it kind
of sounds like a rock band, doesn't

491
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.519
it. And I'm like, Jody, I's so get you, because I

492
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.239
use humor in the most inappropriate times, but it's kind of like the way

493
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:37.960
I deal with things. But this
poor kid not only had been sexually abused

494
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:39.920
and raped and all of this,
now he's in another room and he's getting

495
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:45.639
prodded and poked and checked again.
So once all of this had been completed,

496
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.159
Jody would actually be sent into a
protective custody situation for a short amount

497
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.920
of time. It was kind of
like a home setting with other kids.

498
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.960
And he said they did things like
playball and you know, they would get

499
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:01.159
fed and whatnot. But it wasn't
a long term thing. It was just

500
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:05.119
a transitional thing from point A to
point B. Because remember this was a

501
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.679
huge ordeal, this kid being kidnapped, going across state lines. We've got

502
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.760
the sexual aspect of it, and
they you know, there was a lot

503
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.360
that had to be handled there.
And then Jody would fly home on his

504
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:21.480
first flight ever, and he says, what a cool experience for a kid,

505
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.119
even though under such strange circumstances he
got to fly in an airplane.

506
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:30.519
Just shows his you know how juvenile
of a kid. So there is this

507
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:36.320
video of Jody when he has his
freshly dyed hair, that black hair in

508
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.039
the airport when he sees his parents
for the first time after he's rescued.

509
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:43.360
And I am going to post those
videos on my Facebook and my Instagram.

510
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.400
You know, if only that were
the quote unquote happy ending that the movies

511
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:50.960
always make things out to be right. Oh he made it home. Life's

512
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:57.639
good. But remember victimology and victims
are very similar to like rocks thrown into

513
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:02.320
a pond, that rock enter the
water, but there is an absolute ripple

514
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:09.719
effect and many people suffer when someone
is victimized that they love. So Gary

515
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:15.239
was elated when Jody returned and he
was thrilled that Jeff was now out of

516
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.840
the picture. In Gary's mind,
his family was back together and he was

517
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:22.039
no longer the outsider. They had
found his boy. He was back as

518
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.920
the dad, and he was the
family man over his family, and he

519
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:32.599
just was thrilled to have them all
in one place. But the story isn't

520
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:38.599
over just because Jody was found.
When they got home, Jody would immediately

521
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:45.000
again have to start answering questions from
Baton Rouge police department. Now the questions

522
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:50.280
kept coming. Did Jeff touch you? Did Jeff molest you? Did Jeff

523
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.960
have sex with you? Where did
you go? What did you do?

524
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:59.079
And guess what, y'all, Jody
continues to lie. To understand this,

525
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.840
though, you have to think like
a kid. It was not to protect

526
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:08.079
Jeff for all the horrible things that
he had done to Jody. Jody was

527
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:15.039
protecting himself. Quite frankly, y'all, Jody thought Jeff would find out and

528
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.760
come kill him if he said anything. He was genuinely scared of this man.

529
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:24.119
I mean, if he's capable of
tricking your whole family, of raping

530
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:30.400
you, kidnapping you, taking you
across state line, you know what else

531
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:36.559
is he capable of? Think that
through, Jody would even later say that

532
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:40.360
he became irritated at articles that were
written about him because adults would almost dumb

533
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.239
him down and would say things like
Jody was too young, or Jody thought

534
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.320
this was a game, and it
absolutely was not true. It was a

535
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:54.280
very serious situation that Jody may not
have completely understood why this happened, but

536
00:39:54.360 --> 00:40:00.239
he definitely understood that it was very
wrong and he did not like taking art

537
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.079
in it. He wasn't five,
he was eleven. He was an eleven

538
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.320
year old little boy, but he
still had some knowledge that this is just

539
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.320
incorrect. Matter of fact, I'm
gonna let y'all in on a little secret.

540
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:16.480
I actually know Jody personally. I
know Jody in person, and I'm

541
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:22.480
about to be super blunt here,
but when we were talking one time,

542
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.039
I asked Jody about the abuse Jeff
did to him, and I asked him

543
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.840
something to the effect of, did
you hate it when it was happening?

544
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.280
And look, I know it sounds
dumb at first, but what I wondered

545
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.840
was, did you just go through
the emotions as a child, because obviously

546
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:46.480
don't understand the purpose of sex as
a child, or had you been emotionally

547
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:52.159
tricked and thus attached in some misplaced
love sort of way to Jeff. And

548
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.400
so I hope you understood what my
question meant. Of course, I'm not

549
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.519
saying, hey, are your old
kid who will enjoyed that? I'm asking.

550
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:04.360
I want to to the emotion behind
it, you know. But his

551
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.159
answer surprised me. Okay, and
I'm gonna be blunt, So I hope

552
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.960
you don't have anyone in the car
that you wouldn't want to hear me.

553
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.039
But he looked me straight in my
eyes and he said, and this is

554
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.760
a direct quote, I hated sucking
a man's dick, if that's what you're

555
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:28.239
asking me, And no friendship would
ever change that point made, point made.

556
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:32.519
He knew that this was terrible,
and the friendship didn't change that.

557
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.639
But anyway, Jody would settle into
his home life again. He even returned

558
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:44.559
to school, and when his mother
and father would try to comfort him or

559
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.440
help him, he would tell them
all he wanted was to be a kid.

560
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.239
I want to go play and I
can feel that as a mom wanted

561
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:52.559
to just coddle him and hold him
and say are you okay? What can

562
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.599
I do? And you know,
really he just wanted space. He wanted

563
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.360
normalcy again. He wanted to go
out and lay, and he says that's

564
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.920
what his mom let him do.
His mom said, go play, and

565
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:07.679
he went out in the neighborhood and
he was the happiest he had been in

566
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.800
a long time, just being a
kid playing ball with his brothers and his

567
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.119
prins. Now he went back to
school, and when he went, he

568
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:21.119
says, the reactions ranged. Some
kids cried when they saw him, some

569
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.320
were happy, and some were just
complete assholes, if you want to be

570
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.119
frank. One kid, he says, even started talking shit about him,

571
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:37.199
and you know, Jody didn't appreciate
that, obviously, But on the bus

572
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.559
ride home that afternoon, the kid
got the ass kicking of a century by

573
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:46.079
other kids. Because even kids understand
that there's lines you don't cross. And

574
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:52.760
I don't condone violence, but I'm
just saying, you know, watch your

575
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:58.440
mouth, right. So, a
normal life was what Jody had for a

576
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:04.400
brief moment there until the hospital report
came back, and that report would forever

577
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:09.800
set into motion a change of events
that literally set the precedent for retaliation of

578
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:15.519
a parent for the abuse of their
child. When the report came back,

579
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:20.719
the news was broken to Gary and
June by the police that Jody hadn't just

580
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:27.039
been you know, messed with,
he had been raped. When they found

581
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.199
out, and I had y'all,
I know the story, and I know

582
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:30.199
if you're watching, if you're patron
member, I don't know if you can

583
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:35.119
even see, I have goosebumps like
my whole body. Because it's one thing

584
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.519
to think something may have happened to
your child. The ball game changes when

585
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:51.199
it is solidified in science that another
man's reproductive you know, spices are found

586
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:59.599
in and on your child. And
they were both visibly shaken and outright stunned

587
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.800
when they got it put in their
face that this is what happened to your

588
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:10.760
child. So June brought Jody back
in and she questioned him again. At

589
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.920
this point, Jody realized, look, they all know the truth. The

590
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.840
jig is up. And he said
that he felt an immense amount of relief

591
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.800
when he just got to tell the
truth. He just let it out,

592
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:29.440
Yes, this is what happened.
And you know, June is devastated.

593
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.719
And while Jody may have felt a
great sense of relief that he got to

594
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:42.800
tell, the pressure and anger for
Gary, his dad was just starting to

595
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:49.760
really brew. It was starting to
brew at levels that nobody could imagine.

596
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:55.039
The one thing that Gary could say
when he was faced with the facts of

597
00:44:55.079 --> 00:45:00.199
what Jeff had done to his son
was, and I quote, Jeff's a

598
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:08.840
dead motherfucker. And I feel that
in my soul. I I wasn't there,

599
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:14.920
but I can feel what he meant
by that. Now, June did

600
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.280
not hide the fact from from Jody
that Gary knew all of the details and

601
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:25.199
that he was big mad. But
it Jeff big mad. So speaking of

602
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:31.199
Jeff, at this point, Jeff
was being returned to Louisiana to face his

603
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:37.159
charges for the Jodie case, and
it would be flight five ninety five to

604
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:42.599
Baton Rouge. That would be Jeff's
flight, and he was accompanied by Mike

605
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:49.079
Barnett and Bud Connor, and it
was roughly nine thirty Friday, a Friday

606
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.760
evening. But no one would tell
Gary anything about this, and the police

607
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:59.519
had even mentioned, don't tell Gary
when we're bringing Jeff back because he was

608
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:06.480
so angry. And I'm telling you
on a parental level, other adults got

609
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.039
it, he's big mad. We
don't want to let him know when Jeff's

610
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:15.480
coming in. During that flight,
though Jeff would confess to the molestation.

611
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.840
But I want to say something real
quick. Molestation is not the same thing

612
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.880
as rape. So woo, who
you admitted that you molested? I want

613
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:28.559
to make sure rape is the term
we use here. He penetrated that child.

614
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.320
He didn't just touch him, which
is horrible enough, but he raped

615
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.119
that child. He made that child
commit sodomy or he committed sodomy, and

616
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:43.920
he made that child perform oral sex. He did things unconscionable to Jody.

617
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:49.039
But he did confess it to Bud
Connor because he said, well, you

618
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.000
know, Bud, since you're a
Catholic, I feel comfortable and so I'll

619
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:57.519
go ahead and I guess I'll confess
this to you. What No religion matters

620
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.079
now, Now religion matters, Jeff. Now that your cause it matters,

621
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:06.800
God matters to you. Get out
of here. Jeff also, now at

622
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.199
this point, would claim that he
was sexually abused as a child, even

623
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.719
though no proof was ever really found
of this, And honestly, to me,

624
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:19.559
seems pretty convenient. Make yourself the
victim, right, Oh, I'm

625
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.440
a victim. Therefore I've acted in
this way. Try to mitigate your actions.

626
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.880
But fun fact, guys, fun
fact. Most abuse victims do not

627
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:32.800
go on to become offenders themselves.
They don't. Now, I'm not saying

628
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.840
that offenders were not likely abused,
but what I'm telling you is that abuse

629
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:44.039
victims do not always go on to
become offenders themselves. And I am offended

630
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.719
on behalf of victims everywhere that he
would even imply that that was an excuse.

631
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:57.559
So Jeff even cried on the flight, y'all, and he told of

632
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:05.519
relationships relationship that he had with other
kids too. Now, don't get it

633
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:15.360
twisted. Relationships here means molestation and
rape. Relationship with a kid. Calling

634
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:22.880
it a relationship is as politically correct
as saying undocumented alien. It's as politically

635
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.960
incorrect as saying, oh, we're
no longer going to call them drug dealers.

636
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.719
We're gonna call him street pharmacists.
Yeah, we're gonna just church it

637
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.119
all up. No, all of
that ship's illegal. And I'm not getting

638
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.000
political here. I just want to
I want it to be what it is.

639
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:43.639
You raped children, you didn't have
relationships with them. I have relationships

640
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.880
with people at church. I have
a relationship with Jim at work. I

641
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:51.760
have relationships with my students, meaning
that I love them and I want to

642
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.280
take care of them, and I
want them to grow to have beautiful lives.

643
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:59.719
A relationship is not the same thing, Jeff. You were raping children.

644
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:07.000
You're a fucking pedophile, and you're
a danger to society, specifically society

645
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:12.679
that can't protect themselves, very young
kids. He even literally, y'all loses

646
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.239
all composure at some points, and
he would continue to tell his versions of

647
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:20.119
the truth, but he would continue
to tell a whole lot of lies to

648
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:25.239
and manipulation tactics of telling the story. But most impressive lie, the most

649
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:32.639
impressive lie, was that he didn't
he didn't stop with Jody because they loved

650
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.840
each other. And Jodi, an
eleven year old boy who had been kidnapped

651
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:49.119
quote unquote, wanted it. He
wanted it, sure, Jeff, Sure,

652
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.400
that's what he wanted. What I
see as an eleven year old boy

653
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.039
that wanted to learn karate, wanted
to learn how to fight, wanted his

654
00:49:55.199 --> 00:50:01.800
family back together, wanted his as
to his dad to be proud of him.

655
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.760
He wanted to love his mom,
and he was trying to take care

656
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.800
of what he thought was a friend. And you were a wolf in sheep's

657
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:14.880
clothing who manipulated and took advantage of
a child. And by the way,

658
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:19.039
even if Jody claimed to the police
or to Jeff that he wanted to go,

659
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.639
and eleven year old cannot consent to
sex, but also to leaving town

660
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:29.960
without parent or guardian approval, so
that dog don't hunt there either. A

661
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.119
boy, Okay, he can't consent
to leave with you. Sorry, if

662
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.960
you're in love with an eleven year
old. So, while Jody certainly cared

663
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:44.480
about Jeff as a person, he
adamantly hated Jeff while he was being molested.

664
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:52.360
There's no gray area there. Jeff
was playful, he was fun and

665
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.079
all of those things. But the
realization is that this was all part of

666
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.800
his grooming tactics. He had to
be those things to gain Jody's trust,

667
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:07.079
and they had been successful tactics.
That's what mollusters do, That's what rapists

668
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:14.400
do for children. Now, Gary
is still steadily brewing, y'all, in

669
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:20.000
his hurt and in his anger.
His drinking problem became more pronounced at this

670
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:24.639
time, and I don't blame him. So let's get into the psychology behind

671
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:30.039
Gary stressors, his victimization, and
his ultimate unspeakable actions that are to come.

672
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:37.119
Okay, he had been kicked out
of his home. His sense of

673
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.840
normalcy had been taken from him,
and that had exacerbated his drinking issue.

674
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.000
He definitely hated being away from his
kids. That made him drink even more.

675
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:52.840
Gary defined himself by being a father
and a dad. That was his

676
00:51:52.960 --> 00:52:01.480
most prized accomplishment in life was his
children. He had also heard that another

677
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:07.320
man was spending a lot of time
with his wife. Gary wanted to repair

678
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:14.039
his marriage, but the drinking was
in the way. Jeff was helping and

679
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:19.639
that the kids had a mentor while
he wasn't there every other weekend. But

680
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:25.960
now Gary has found out that he
invited Jeff into his home and then Jeff

681
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:32.599
was having sex with his own child, and it threw Gary into a world

682
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:40.840
of unraveling. Guilt, remorse,
and the feeling of failure as a dad

683
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:47.079
and as a man became a driving
factor in Gary's need to vindicate his son.

684
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:51.440
And that is what the end of
the story is about. In Gary's

685
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:58.119
mind, it's vindication. He had
to be part of the punishment because he

686
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.960
was the one who invited Jeff into
his home. Home. In his mind

687
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:05.760
right, he knew that he would
be arrested and he would be punished,

688
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:13.079
but Gary did not care, and
guys, at this point, Jeff's days

689
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:20.159
are numbered. On March sixteenth,
Gary was at a restaurant bar type situation

690
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.960
and it happened that a friend of
his who worked at a local news station,

691
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:30.599
mentioned to him that Jeff would be
coming in on a flight that very

692
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:37.800
day. The police were careful not
to tell Gary anything, but I'm telling

693
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:43.159
you, friends do what friends do. And they were talking when Gary realized

694
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:46.480
in that moment that Jeff would be
at that airport that afternoon. He finished

695
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:54.599
his drink, he left, and
he drove to the airport. When he

696
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:59.000
got there, he walked in and
he was able to make it to a

697
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:02.239
pay phone bank. Remember this is
pre nine eleven, okay, and he

698
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:07.000
didn't have to go through all that
actual security to get to the waiting area.

699
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:08.960
Back then, you could just walk
through pretty much turnstile things, and

700
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.400
then you only went through security once
you were about to board the playing type

701
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.199
thing, if you call it that. It was different. And he made

702
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:22.280
his way to a set of about
twelve payphones, and that's when he realized,

703
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:27.840
I don't even know where Jeff would
be coming in. You know,

704
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.400
I have no idea where Jeff's coming
in, But he knew that if he

705
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:37.320
saw him, it was on.
So he made his way up to those

706
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.559
payphones, and he realized when he
looked up there were a few TV camera

707
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:46.880
people setting up, and he's not
a fool, figuring that they were there

708
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:51.880
to get a video of Jeff.
He surmised that Jeff must have been scheduled

709
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:58.599
to walk past those cameras at some
point. So there Gary stood a broken

710
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:05.920
man who felt completely defeated and like
a total let down as a father.

711
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:15.639
Blue jeans, a maroon purplish striped
shirt, a white baseball cap, sunglasses,

712
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:23.800
and a thirty eight in his cowboy
boot. So he's full of nervous

713
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.960
anger. And that's when Gary walked
to the pay phones and made a call

714
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:35.679
to his friend, whose name was
Stinky. You know there's going to be

715
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:39.599
a story there when your friend's name
is Stinky and he gets him on the

716
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:45.280
phone and he says, Stinky,
I'm gonna shoot Jeff. Now you can

717
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.639
imagine Stinky's like, wait, what, no, man, you know,

718
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.119
what are you doing? You can't
do that, And he says I'm gonna

719
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:59.599
shoot him. About that time,
the plane landed unbeknownst unbeknownst to Gary and

720
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:05.159
Jeff was going to be escorted into
the lobby of the airport. Truth be

721
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.800
told, Jeff was actually nervous that
his own brother may try to kill him

722
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:14.880
for being a molester, and he
had vocalized that too Bud, one of

723
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:20.679
the cops that was escorting him.
So Bud and Jeff as they walk into

724
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:24.079
the airport, see the news cameras
and Bud tells Jeff to just keep walking

725
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:28.280
and put your head down. He
tells him, your job is not only

726
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:30.239
he says, my job is not
only to escort you, but also to

727
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:37.199
protect you. Just keep walking.
Now, imagine that they're walking, Jeff's

728
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:44.320
handcuffed, Bud's got him, and
about that time Gary told Stinky on the

729
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.679
phone they must have taken Jeff another
way because I don't see him. But

730
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:54.920
right at that moment, the lights
of the cameras popped on. Gary looks

731
00:56:55.000 --> 00:57:04.519
up and he lays eyes on Jeff. Two set. Jeff continues walking,

732
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:08.480
doesn't see Gary and kind of looks
up towards the camera and he almost has

733
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:15.400
a smirk on his face, and
without missing a beat, Gary says into

734
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:20.639
the phone, I'm getting my gun
out of my boot. You're gonna hear

735
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:27.280
it. And at that next moment
all you hear is wow. And there,

736
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:32.320
for the first time ever recorded on
live television, a dad made good

737
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:39.960
on his word. Gary Ploche put
a bullet through Jeff's head and the force

738
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:45.360
of the bullet broke Jeff's neck as
he fell to the ground. Gary then

739
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:51.519
calmly turned and hung the phone up
that he had never put down. And

740
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:55.400
this is where the famous words and
the title of Jody's book were yelled for

741
00:57:55.440 --> 00:58:02.039
everyone to hear. Barnett grabbed Gary's
arm and he takes the gun from him

742
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:07.880
and at the exact same moment yells
why Gary. Why. You'd have to

743
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:14.320
see the look on Gary's face,
But he was an absolutely broken hearted man

744
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:19.239
who just did what he felt he
had to do. And the camera's caught

745
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:24.039
it all. They look and point
at Gary and he drops his head and

746
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:28.679
then he looks up once at the
camera. But it's not a look for

747
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:34.519
publicity. It's almost like a shameful
head drop. But there's solace in that

748
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:43.440
man's face, and his face says
it all. Never again. Jeff Dusett

749
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:49.760
would die a few days later in
the hospital. Never regaining consciousness. Now,

750
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:55.480
believe it or not, there is
still a ton of unknown details that

751
00:58:55.639 --> 00:59:02.800
I have that I'm going to release
as a Patron only episode. Tons of

752
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:06.280
stuff. I mean, there's so
much left of the story it'll blow your

753
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:10.960
mind. If you want to hear
everything left, you can join Patron at

754
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:19.280
your leisure at Unspeakable the podcast dot
com if that interests you. Now even

755
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:24.880
crazier is that I have a super
awesome treat for everybody next episode, next

756
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:30.599
week's drop, I will have a
special guest, mister Jodi Ploche himself in

757
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:35.760
the studio and we are going to
talk about the story, and you're going

758
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:39.920
to get to know the man that
grew up knowing that his dad would do

759
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:45.559
anything for him, and he kind
of gets to tell his story from his

760
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:51.840
own mouth, and I'm just so
honored that he would come and talk to

761
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:57.280
me about his experiences. Something else
I have to surprise you with is that

762
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:01.119
I have two autographed copies of JODI's
book, Why Gary, Why, Then

763
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:06.760
I'm going to give away as well
as one audio version. Are you interested

764
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.519
in in win in One? Do
you want an autographed copy? Do you

765
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:14.760
want to read it yourself or listen
to the audio book. Well, I

766
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:16.639
got three ways that you can enter
to win one, and you're gonna it's

767
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:21.639
so simple. All you have to
do is share this episode that you're listening

768
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.880
to. I'm gonna have it posted
on Facebook as usual. All you got

769
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.880
to do is share it. That's
all you gotta do, and hey,

770
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.440
tell people to listen to it because
I think it's a pretty good story.

771
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:34.639
That's the first way you can do
it. Another way you can do it

772
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:38.079
is y'all should know by now that
I'm up for two podcast awards. If

773
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:43.639
you will go vote and then take
a screenshot of the end you know of

774
01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:45.639
you voting, where you can see
that you voted for me. I'm gonna

775
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:50.039
have a Facebook post where I'll ask
you to post your screenshots there in the

776
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.800
comments. That's another way for you
to enter to win. And then finally,

777
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:59.920
next week, after you hear Jody
the episode with me of me,

778
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:04.599
of Jody and I talking, if
you will share that episode, I'm gonna

779
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.440
pick a winner from that share as
well. So you have three ways to

780
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.400
enter, three chances to winner.
All you have to do is click the

781
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:14.960
share button and vote. So if
that interests you, please help a girl

782
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:19.119
out and it's a great book,
y'all. And it's also the audio version

783
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:23.119
is narrated by mister Toby tom Play. He does a great job, and

784
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:27.960
it's a great listen while you're traveling
or while you're cleaning your house or whatever

785
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:32.719
it does that you do. But
if anything, I hope this episode opened

786
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:38.480
your eyes not only to predators but
also to the undying love of a father.

787
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:45.280
And something that struck me that Jody
said about his father was that mister

788
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:52.480
Garry was always a good man.
But I also watched Jody Quiver one time

789
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:57.559
when he looked up and he said, Jeff made a very nice man do

790
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:01.679
something very bad. But you know
what, y'all, I don't blame Gary

791
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:07.719
Ploche. My parent heart overrides the
process of law on this one. And

792
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:12.159
I'm not even gonna lie about it, right or wrong. I'm gonna leave

793
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.639
the judge into God. But all
I can say about being here on earth

794
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:20.480
is that if you come to the
South and you rape a man's child,

795
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.800
you better watch your back, because
down here, if you fuck around,

796
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:30.519
you will find out. And I
never met mister Ploche, okay, so

797
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.320
I never got to ask him what
he felt when he pulled the trigger that

798
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:37.039
day. But if I had to
bet, I think his only answer would

799
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:37.719
be recoil.