Vigilante | The Gary Plauche Story

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime
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combined with my years as a criminal
justice educator, dig deep into complex cases

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of evil acts, some so evil
many feel they are unspeakable. Warning.

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Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences.
If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is
advised. Hey, y'all, Kelly Jenning's

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back here for another episode of Unspeakable. How are you doing? I cannot

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even express to you how excited I
am for this episode. I originally was

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gonna release this for Father's Day,
but I didn't because I took too long

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and I would probably be late to
my own funeral, if I'm being honest.

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So, but it's here now,
and so hey, you're gonna get

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it. So an old stress about
it, But I literally am so tickled

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to finally get to tell this story
on my own terms, on my own

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podcast, and I grew up with
it right. But before I started,

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I gotta tell y'all something I was
watching the news the other day, and

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have y'all seen this story about oracle
whales and how they are biting off propellers

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of boats and you'll like, tell
you why are you talking about orcas?

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Brah, listen to this. They
believe that there's a female leader of this

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orca vigilante group, okay, and
they think she got hurt by a propeller

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and she is now amassed an army
of other orcas and she is training them

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to bite the moving propellers off of
boats and sinking them. Like this girl

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has had enough and like her name
is like Deborah or something, and Deborah

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the orca is out there sleighing boats. Okay, why am I telling you

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this? Well? Number one,
it was like, holy crap, what

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which is like my episode today?
Because I don't know if you've ever heard

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of Gary Ploche, But dude takes
parenting to another level. Okay, But

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he didn't have to amass a group
to come help him do it. He

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just handled his own business. So
let's jump into this one, okay,

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y'all. Gary Ploche the most epic
story probably of my childhood, because this

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takes place in Baton Rouge in nineteen
eighty four, which was the year of

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my birth. I know y'all are
just all excited, but I was born

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in nineteen eighty four when this happened. And this case is proof that even

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though it a long time ago,
right like thirty forty years, but it's

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legendary around these parts okay where I
live, it is absolutely legendary. And

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you'll see why once we get to
it. But Gary Ploche is the man

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that this story is about. But
before I get into the nitty gritty,

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I want to formally introduce you to
mister Gary. Now he's obviously not going

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to be here in studio with me
because it's just me, myself and I

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but I want you to know who
he was, right, who was mister

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Gary Ploche, And to me,
it matters in understanding how this entire story

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came to be. It's not just
the simple tidbits that you can find here

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and there in just a quick news
article, right, so get into it.

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Gary Ploche was in his thirties okay
when this story is really gonna take

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place. But he was always described
by everyone who knew him as the life

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of the party. And we all
know somebody like that right as soon as

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they walk in the lights go off, it's like, all right, the

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good time is here, the fun
time is here, and you know it's

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about to it good. And you
know he loved to cook, He loved

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to entertain and have people over.
He was a I mean, he loved

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the LSU Tigers. He was a
Tiger fan through and through. And if

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you know anything about South Louisiana on
a Saturday night, we are a drinking

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town with a football problem. We
love our baseball, our football, all

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of our sports. And you wear
purple and gold where we come from.

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Well that was Gary Ploche and this
had always really been his personality, bigger

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than life type stuff, even when
he was a kid. His mom said

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that he was a handful a matter
of fact, when he was in school,

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his teacher even told him, look, if you would just behave,

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literally, I'll give you an A. If you can just calm down and

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behave, I'll give you an A. And as luck would have it,

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he got to see that's a true
story, right. He just was a

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wild man. He was an amazing
athlete in his younger years, and his

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focus was really in track and he
was an all star sprinter whenever he was

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younger and He even held the record
in the fifty yard dash, but not

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so much in the hundred yard dash
because, as he would put it,

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his cigarette lungs would start kicking in, right, So he liked to compete.

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He was a man's man, and
he'd smoked him a sugar atte her

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twenty right whenever he was wanting to
relax. So he was an animal lover.

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He was an amazing, likable guy. And everyone who knew him,

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seriously, it doesn't matter where you
look or who you talk to. Everyone

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knew him in town, and everyone
says that he was just the biggest personality.

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You loved being with him, and
you were better for it. With

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all the stories and all the people
he knew and all the adventures that he

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went on. And while I never
personally met him, y'all, I never

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did, I'd like to think that
he and I would have gotten along.

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I really do. Everything about him
screams a good time. And even better

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than that, he had a good
heart. He was giving, he was

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kind, he was loving, and
and just y'all, that that guy,

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you know what I mean, Just
that guy you wanted to go to the

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tailgates with and kick back A Bruski
or two and just watch sports and have

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a good time. So as he
got older, right, he did meet

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his wife. Her name was June, and they met while she was singing

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at a nightclub and they would get
married shortly thereafter in nineteen sixty nine.

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Now four kids would eventually be shared
by the couple, and their names were

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Gary, Jody, Mikey, and
Sissy. So little Gary aka Bubba was

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born in nineteen seventy when mister Gary
was still a medic in the Air Force

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and he was stationed in Biloxi,
Mississippi. Well about that time, Gary

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Dad Gary, his drinking really escalated
and he seemed to be gone more than

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usual, and it had kind of
started taking a toll on June, and

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she really was contemplating leaving him,
if we're going to be honest. So

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the marriage began to suffer, but
June became pregnant with their second son,

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named Jody, and the family moved
to Baton Rouge around that time. And

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the truth was, honestly, that
June couldn't support two kids on her own,

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so she stayed in the marriage.
And I know, we know a

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lot of people that have done that. You know, maybe they weren't one

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hundred percent happy. They wanted,
they want it out, but it just

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wasn't conducive financially to their position they
were in. So Gary gets a new

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job at probably not the best place
he could have picked, because it was

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a wholesale liquor store, and that
didn't help because Gary would get wasted every

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night right because he had access to
the liquor. So more time would pass

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and life just kind of went on
and the last two children of the Plochet

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marriage were born. And I don't
want to get it twisted though. There

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wasn't a lack of love y'all in
this household while there. While Gary probably

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wouldn't doing the best he could husband
wise in terms of day and sober,

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there was not a lack of love. There was just a lack of control

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on Gary's part of his drinking.
And the more I learned about him,

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and the more I talked to people
that know him, I don't get the

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feeling that he was doing it on
purpose. I don't think that he set

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out to neglect June. I don't
think that his goal was to be out,

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you know, like partying and clubbing
or anything like that. He just

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got wrapped up in his Shenanigans a
little too often, right, he would

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get going and he just couldn't,
you know, like hold up. He

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kept drinking once he started, and
it got out of control. But by

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nineteen eighty three, June had had
enough and she did formally ask Gary to

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leave the household eleven years into their
marriage. Now, June was frustrated with

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Gary's drinking. But Gary kind of
had a reason for why he was doing

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it, and I don't mean in
a victim way or like, oh,

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he was trying to drink away his
sorrows. It actually was part of his

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job because he would often take clients
out for his sales job that they had

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that he had, and they would
go have lunch at places that also served

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drinks. And one of those places
that Gary loved to go was called the

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Cotton Club. And you know,
Gary would usually partake in the party,

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which left June having to take care
of the kids and even having to go

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sometimes to drive and pick him up
after he drank a little too much.

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And it just got to be a
little too often for June's liking. But

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Gary was a good man and he
was a good father to his kids.

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If you ask his kids today,
he was at every ball game that they

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played. He coached almost everything that
the kids played, and his full identity

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was really wrapped up and being his
kid's daddy. He lived for them.

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He loved June. He just as
far as marriage went, couldn't seem to

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get on the same page, you
know, with June on what the terms

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of the marriage you know, were
about. The June and Gary were even

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f to one another by all accounts, but anyone could understand how the frustration

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can snowball, even between two loving
people whenever it's not going as one would

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plan. So as such, like
I told you, June did ask Gary

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to leave. And when this case
kind of picks up, that's where they

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were. It had been about nine
months and the kids at this point and

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Gary had been separated for nine months, and the kids ages were as follows.

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There was Bubba who was thirteen,
Jody who was eleven, Mikey who

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was eight, and then the youngest
little sister, Sissy, and she was

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seven. So the agreement that they
had come up with was that the kids

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would see their dad every other weekend. And while this sounds like the typical

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agreement, you know, per se, it was killing Gary on the inside.

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He loved his family. He loved
his kids more than life itself,

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and he had moved back in with
his own parents, but he desperately wanted

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the normal see of his family life
back. While this wasn't happening at the

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moment, Gary would still be the
father of his kids and be the dad

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that they needed. He was there, okay. He did not abandon his

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kids, and one thing that they
really bonded over was sports. I mean

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sports was a strong bond between Gary
and his kids. The oldest two boys

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were always really, really really athletic, so Bubba and Jodi were out the

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box talented in sports. Now younger
brother, Mikey would struggle not only athletically

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but also academically, and so he
wasn't on the same level we would,

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you know, per se as his
brothers. But eventually he would actually find

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something that he was good at and
it would be pole vaulting. And pole

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vaulting that's kind of hard y'all.
Like, pole vaulting is literally the sport

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for people who are like reckless mentality, you know, like living with wild

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abandoned. Have you ever watched a
friggin pole vaulter who came up with the

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idea to just I'm gonna run with
this massively long stick and then put all

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my weight on it and let it
bend and then fling me over another pole.

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Who came up with that probably the
same guy who looked at a crawfish

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and was like, I'm about to
suck the butt of this crawfish and see

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what it taste like. Let me
boil it first, all right. But

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luckily for Mikey, you know,
that was kind of his approach to everything.

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According to his brothers, he did
everything driving cars and living life one

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mile at a time. Mikey was
adventurous and daring, and he would end

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up actually leading the district and become
a pole vaulting champion in nineteen ninety three.

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So just because he struggled a bit
doesn't mean he didn't have that same

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athletic inclination as his brothers. And
it's kind of funny, but when you

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know Jody describes his brother pole vaulting, it's like almost comical because he says,

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my brother had like no recognizable form
or technique. It was just balls

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to the wall going for it.
And he even described it as a mixteen

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like a dancer in the air and
a taser victim while he was flying through

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the air. He just did whatever
he had to do to get over the

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bar. But he had a heart
of a champion, just like his dad

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Gary. He wanted to win and
he did it. A little bit about

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Sissy, Now, she was the
baby of the family, and you know

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she was pampered as such. She
was the little girl, but she was

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tough, so like, don't get
it twisted. Sissy held her own and

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according to her brothers, wants her
temper flare. She gonna fight like a

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man like Sissy and Sissy don't play. She had three older brothers, and

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honestly, I ain't mad at it. I mean, sometimes you just gotta

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do what you gotta do. Somebody
get crazy, all right, A matter

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of fact, this cracked me up. I have to share this story with

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y'all. It's kind of freaking hilarious. Um. But there's this place called

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Callaway's in Baton Rouge. It's a
it's a health club, all right,

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and a woman who you all may
recognize her name. Her name was Stormy

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Daniels. Yes, the same heifer
who alleged Lee had an affair with President

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Trump. You remember that name?
Stormy Daniels. Well, one day,

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Stormy Daniels threw a smoothie at Sissy's
face at the Callaway Club in Baton Rouge,

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and Sissy did what any good Southern
woman would do, any Southern woman

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worth her salt would do. She
whooped her ass. I thought that was

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regul hilarious. You go, Sissy, if you're listening to this, whoop

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her ass, don't be thrown smoothies
in people's face. Shoot. Anyway,

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let's go back to Bubba and Jody. All right, So Bubba and Jody,

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remember they're the two oldest brothers.
They both got a flyer about karate

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classes at school and they both immediately
wanted to try it. And everything I

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read and found out, you know, Jody and them, they did sports

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like they did soccer, baseball,
basketball, They were all in on playing

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sports, but karate was new and
they wanted to try it. And as

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luck would have it, there's a
con man around every corner, and the

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man that put out the flyers would
end up taking their parents' money, but

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would run off and never give one
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So the parents really got screwed on
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Instructor who heard about the mistreatment of
the kids and how they didn't get

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their classes showed up and said he
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had been paid for. Like awesome, right, he stepped up for the

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kids, and his name was Jeff
Ducett. Now, something that really caught

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the boy's attention was that Jeff mentioned
fight teams that would travel and compete around

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the state. That really tickled their
fancy. And I'm kind of like we

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where Sissy at Tell Cissy get up
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Now, Jeff was a really likable
guy. He spent quality time with

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the kids, and he spent time
teaching them how to be tough. And

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I don't just mean physically, I
mean mentally tough, right, And you

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know, I even enrolled my own
kids in karate because I have girls,

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and I wanted the girls to learn
about restraint but also be dangerous, you

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know, learn how to defend yourself, but know when and how and where

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to use it. And I think
karate is a great tool for kids to

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learn about respect and following commands.
And this really sounded good to the boys.

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And Jeff would even bring not only
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team building, so they would go
do things like eat pizza, you know,

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go hang out, and Jeff was
able to build community with the kids

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and the team mentality was really solidified
in this. It was like a master

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and his proteges were working their butts
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fight in these tournaments they'd heard about, so they would practice often, but

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they would relax as well, and
as time passed, Jody really excelled at

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it. That's the second son,
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The Plochees aren't people that would just
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They were very protective of their precious
children. I mean very protective,

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so in tune with their safety that
they even had a family member who was

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in law enforcement that they would call
quote unquote the disaster captain because anytime something

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went wrong, he was the one, you know, the family would turn

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to. But they even had him
go run Jeff's name for any criminal record,

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which all came back clear except for
some traffic tickets. But I mean,

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like, who doesn't, right,
I'm not saying I do, but

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maybe I do. Maybe I don't. Okay, I speed sometimes, jem

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geez quite looking at me crazy,
Okay, but I'm just in a hurry

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to do something awesome. Jeez.
But they didn't just let the kids run

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off with Jeff. They kind of
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that this guy was worthy of their
children's time. And I think that was

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awesome. It turns out, just
say, you know that speed limits when

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it comes to like traffic tickets are
not suggestion, according to a very astute

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judge I once saw in high school
for a traffic ticket. I thought that

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was the funniest thing I've ever heard. Miss Kelly. You know, speed

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limits are to be followed, They're
not suggestions. And that really like kind

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of hurt my heart a little bit. I was like, oh my god.

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All right. So as the families
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with Jeff because remembers a lot of
kids, he would take them out to

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have fun to places like Chuck E
Cheese and the movies and bowling and stuff

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like that, which, by the
way, I just learned this. I

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always thought it was Chuck E Cheese
like when we would go play there,

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But it's actually Chuck E cheese,
and the E is actually a middle initial

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which stands for drum roll entertainment.
If you did not know that, Chuck

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entertainment cheese. So if you ever
use that useless knowledge on Jeopardy or something,

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I want my cut. Okay,
you're welcome Chucky cheese. All right.

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So a little bit about Jeff's background, because I don't think I've really

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told you enough about him. He
was born February third, nineteen fifty nine

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to Hayward and Elia Dusett, and
he had a lot of siblings. So

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he had three older brothers, Sam, Roland, and Mike. And fun

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fact, if you're not from around
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Roland Dusett became a very prominent radio
personality here in Baton Rouge, and he

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just recently retired, but he was
a beloved staple of the radio community on

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Roland's Rock in Cajun Show. But
I grew up listening to that. It's

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just so crazy how small the world
is, you know. But Jeff's father

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died when he was a teenager,
and you know, according to the family,

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they were kind of raised on the
wrong side of the tracks in Port

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Arthur, Texas. I also read
somewhere that he had a sister who died

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from a rattles rattlesnake by you,
but I couldn't really confirm that. But

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hey, I'm throwing it out there, you know, sorry for your loss,

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Jeff, if that's true. All
right now. His sister's names were

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Nelda and Carline, and the stories
that kind of came out of their mouths

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were kind of sad. Like one
time, for example, Carline told Jody's

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mother that her mother used to whore
her out at a local like area to

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the degenerates, and she actually ended
up getting pregnant at thirteen and had a

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baby at fourteen. And one of
their brothers also did some time at Angola,

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you know, the all male maximum
security penitentiary that I myself worked at.

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And this means that he did something
serious. All that means like armed

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robbery, rape, murder, because
back then, only serious felonies and habitual

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offenders you know, were there back
in the day. I know things have

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changed now, but you know,
needless to say, it didn't seem like

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Jeff's home life was all roses,
but he had established himself in the Ploche

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family as a friend, and the
kids at the karate place loved him.

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Gary the dad was even glad that
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he felt like he gave the kids
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he wasn't there. June Ploche found
him charming and she thought he was

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a good friend. And Jeff would
over time literally become like family to the

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Ploches. He would even come over
on the weekends to hang out with everybody.

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So it wasn't like they just saw
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dojo, They would see him on
the weekends. He was family. He

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was like, you know, uncle
Jeff really and the Ploche family had this

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thing and I thought it was kind
of cool. But they would play games

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on the weekend. It was like
their tradition, and the ants and the

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uncles would all come over and they
would play games all night, and eventually,

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you know, everyone would spend the
night there. Jeff was invited and

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he would join in regularly. I
mean he would even stay the night.

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It was just eat, drink,
have fun, play games and a lot

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of family fun. So Jeff continued, you know, to build trust with

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everyone, and he even moved the
karate classes closer to the Ploche home,

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and the classes started to run longer. Okay, he was really investing in

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the kids. And since they would
run longer, Jeff would also offer rides

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home for the kids. And y'all, this was so helpful. Think about

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it. You're a parent, June
Is. I'm not going to say a

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single parent, but she's separated and
she's trying to raise her family. And

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when you've got someone that can go
pick up the kids and bring them home

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and you trust them and that's your
family friend, well that's a huge help.

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As a mama of three and we
are all over the place right with

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practices, I could see how this
would be just one less stressor that,

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you know, two of her kids
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Even more fun, though, is
that Jeff would let the kids drive

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his car. Right now, I
don't mean off on their own. Come

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on, he had a standard and
he would let them sit in his lap

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and then with his help, the
kids would steer while Jeff worked the clutch

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and the break. And of course, you know, Jeff's hands accidentally grazed

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their private parts sometimes, but that's
just I mean, he had to move

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his hands around right when they were
driving, and he had to put his

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hand somewhere right. So sure it
was uncomfortable sometimes, but it wasn't a

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big deal or anything. It was
so much fun they were getting to drive

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the car. In March of nineteen
eighty three, Jeff invited all of the

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kids to a karate tournament in Houston
to watch the fighters fight. They were

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so excited about this, right,
the kids thought it was great, but

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the parents really wanted to discuss it. So all of the parents of the

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karate kids got together and they discussed
whether they were going to let the kids

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go or not. You know,
they were weighing the pros and cons and

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should they let the kids go,
and ultimately they all agreed, Look,

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we trust Jeff. He's going to
take care of the kids. He loves

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them, he's invested in them,
and so they did let the kids go.

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Now, Jody unfortunately didn't get to
go because he had a basketball tournament

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and Jody loved basketball. He wanted
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But the other Ploche brothers did go, and when they came back, they

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were like going off about all the
fun wild things that happened. While they

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were on the trip. They talked
about pillow fights and one kid even was

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sneaking like skull, you know,
a dip in his mouth, and you

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know, it's just so funny.
Like the kids thought that was the greatest

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thing ever and it sounded so much
fun Gary even said, look, I

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want to go next time. I'd
love to go with the kids. You

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know, we can take them to
the next tournament. Well, in eighty

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three, April of eighty three,
the karate team and Jeff would go to

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Houston for a tournament and Jody was
going to fight like a main fight,

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and Gary went with him. This
time Dad went, and y'all they had

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a great time. Jody took second
place, and as any kid, you

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know, dang it, he was
kind of disappointed that he took second,

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but he did a great job.
Again, he was a great fighter.

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And after you know, the competition
was over, they all went to go

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watch the Black Belts fight, but
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He wanted to go watch the Astros
play instead. Now, just so you

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know, current Astros has Alex Peregman
and Breggie Pooh is my boo. He

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played for the LSU Tigers by the
way, So I get it, I

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get it. The Astros you want
to go see him, right, okay,

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but he really wanted to go.
But it was kind of strange because

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Jeff got really mad at Jody for
wanting to leave the karate fight and go

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see the Astros play, and Jody, you know, was kind of annoyed

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by like, why are you so
mad? Bro chill out? But I

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mean, after all, Jody was
the best fighter, and Jeff kept saying

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he wanted him to stay and I
want you to watch the fights, but

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Jody was like, I mean,
he bitched so much at mean, he

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started to make me feel bad,
Like good lord. So afterwards, after

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all that was over, they went
ice skating at the Galleria and they just

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continued to have a blast. I
mean, it was just a good trip.

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And by the end of the day
they get back to the hotel and

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the sleeping arrangements were something that a
mom probably would be like wtf, you

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know, but to a group of
men, I guess that seemed logical.

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Right. They all decided they were
all going to cram into one room.

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So there was Gary, Jeff,
and a couple of kids in this room.

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So Gary slept in one bed with
some of the kids, and then

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Jeff slept in the other bed with
some of the other kids, including Jody.

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Now, if you have kids in
the car or something like that,

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this is probably isn't a time for
them to be listening. I'll give you

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a second. You might want to
go ahead and pause it, but this

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might not be for them, Okay. So you can imagine, y'all,

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they've been fighting at the tournament,
and they watched the tournament go on,

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then they went and had fun and
ice skating, and it's the end of

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the day and they are exhausted,
and that's when everybody got in bed.

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The lights went out, and everybody
kind of zonked out. And the beds,

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you can imagine they're pretty cramped,
right, because you got a grown

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man and some kids in the bids. And Jody got pretty aggravated as he

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was sleeping because Jeff kept accidentally rubbing
against him, and he kept accidentally rubbing

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against his private parts. And you
know, Jody obviously thought this was an

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accident, because I mean, why
would a grown man be touching a kid?

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Right? And I guess you want
to chalk it up to a combination

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of embarrassment and aggravation. Jody pretended
to be asleep because he just wanted to

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avoid any misunderstanding, right, because
Jeff's asleep and it's just frustrating. They

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wake up. The next day,
they went to Astro World and they had

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a blast, but Jody says he
got soaking wet. A lot of them

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did right while they were an Astro
World, and Jody's shorts became see through

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because they got wet, and it
was funny, and Jeff kept commenting and

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laughing about his sea through shorts,
and then he just kept going on about

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Jody's quote unquote frozen ass because Jody
was cold and he could see through his

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shorts. So they make it home. Trip was good. Moving on the

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following weekend, all of the karate
teams went crawfishing to have a self caught

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boil, meaning like all the kids
in that one karate school, and the

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goal was basically that the kids were
going to be catching their dinner. And

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again they all went out and they
spent the day crawfishing with Jeff, and

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again they stayed in a hotel that
night, and again Jeff would bunk with

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Jody in the bed. This time, though, Jeff aggressively started rubbing Jody

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under the covers. He did it
so much, in fact, that Jody's

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privates were rubbed raw. Now you
gotta imagine, y'all, he's a ten

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eleven year old boy and he's not
understanding why or exactly what's happening. So

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again, to avoid any type of
misunderstanding and the embarrassment of it, Jody

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pretended to be asleep. But he
couldn't ignore it, and he eventually got

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mad. He was hurt. And
at this point Jody formally realizes that this

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is not an accident, and I
think this is being done on purpose.

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The amazing thing is dy and this
is such a lesson to parents. Okay,

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Jody's parents had always been proactive about
right and wrong touch with him.

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This was not a kid who had
never had this discussion before. His mother

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took the time out to explain that
there are perverts out there and that no

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00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:52.880
adult should ever touch you in that
way. However, when you're an eleven

407
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:57.039
year old boy, it's not as
clear cut right in your mind. Because

408
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:02.680
Jeff is a friend, He's not
at that scary stranger that's jumping out of

409
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:08.160
the bushes, that wants to hurt
me, and so the confusion there is

410
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:15.039
huge. Jody wanted to tell someone
and I can so identify with what I'm

411
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:19.119
about to say as a kid,
but he didn't want to disrupt the family

412
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.599
anymore than it already was. Remember, his parents are split up, and

413
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:30.000
he didn't want to distress anyone over
this quote unquote thing that had just happened

414
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:36.960
to him. You can't you put
yourself there in the kid's shoes that this

415
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.640
is wrong. But this is a
friend, and my parents trust him,

416
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.720
and he's my karate coach, so
I don't understand why he's doing it.

417
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.839
This can't be happening like what my
parents were talking about. This is different,

418
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:56.039
when in reality it's not. It's
exactly what they warned about. Now

419
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.359
it turns out they had caught a
lot of crawfish and they had enough to

420
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:02.880
boil the next day. And during
the next day's events, right there boiling

421
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.240
and having a good time, Jeff
needed to go make a store run,

422
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.079
and Jody jumped in the truck with
him like he usually did. Hey,

423
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.519
I'll go to a store with you
this time, though, Jeff brings up

424
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:18.440
what happened the night before about him
touching him, and he says, but

425
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:25.880
you can't tell your parents, Jody, you just can't. And Jody decides,

426
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.519
okay, I'm just going to pretend. He pretends he was asleep and

427
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:32.039
tells Jeff he doesn't even know what
he's talking about, right, because it's

428
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:37.000
embarrassing. And while this may have
been a self preservation method for Jody,

429
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:42.559
like as a child, this feigning
of not knowing, you know what happened,

430
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:48.039
although they both clearly know that they
both know what happened, this would

431
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.960
actually seal the deal. In Jeff's
mind. He now knows I have a

432
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:59.839
victim. I have a child who's
not gonna tell. And he knows that

433
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.640
because he knows Jody knows what happened, and Jody pretends like he doesn't.

434
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:09.960
So Jeff was doing what a lot
of pedophiles will do, and he was

435
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:15.759
testing the boundaries. He was trying
to see what Jody was going to do.

436
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:21.039
And that's common y'all amongst sex offenders, to see if the victim will

437
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:25.039
tell. And unfortunately for Jody,
he passed that test in Jeff's eyes,

438
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:32.319
and now it's game one. So
Jeff was now, as you can see,

439
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:37.599
a regular fixture in the Plochet home. He had kind of weaseled his

440
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.200
way in right and now he's very
comfortable with the family and they're very comfortable

441
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:44.720
with him. And not only that, he was trusted, he was a

442
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.880
trusted friend of the family. Gary
even said he felt sorry for Jeff.

443
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.160
He would help him out when he
needed, he'd be a friend to him

444
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.359
because Jeff was often alone and didn't
have a lot of family nearby. And

445
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.920
you know, Gary continued to invite
Jeff over for dinner to hang out with

446
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.480
the family, and Jeff would always
oblige, even finding time to sneak off

447
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.519
to the bathroom while he was there. The problem was that when he would

448
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.640
go to the back to the bathroom, it was usually when Jody was bathing.

449
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.200
With all the events that were happening
in the home and the hustle and

450
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.160
bustle of the friends and the family
and the good times they were having,

451
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:27.319
it wasn't a glaring absence when he
did it, so it was very calculated

452
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.240
and it was only for a couple
of minutes after all, so people really

453
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:36.880
wouldn't notice this. So Jeff would
come into the bathroom when he would realize

454
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.880
that Jody was in there, and
bathing and would walk in and turn around

455
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.200
and lock the door. He would
then soap up his hands to get him

456
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:52.440
nice and soapy, and then would
masturbait Jodi, a ten year old child

457
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.480
who didn't know what to do.
He was more shocked and confused, so

458
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.359
he didn't fight back. I mean
this as an adult after all, and

459
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.039
you don't question adults. How many
of us, as parents have told kids,

460
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.719
do not back talk an adult.
Think about it. Put yourself in

461
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:14.559
the child's perspective. You don't argue
with an adult. He was a karate

462
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:16.760
instructor, not a scary stranger.
So why was this happening? I mean

463
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:23.280
it's hard for Jody to comprehend why. Also, Jeff would never say anything

464
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:31.320
when it happened. He would He
would also never abuse Jody to completion in

465
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:37.800
the tub. He did it just
long enough to see the natural physiological reaction

466
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:43.440
of Jody's body, and then just
like nothing ever happened, he would get

467
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:49.719
up, unlock the door, and
walk out. Can you imagine the child's

468
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:57.159
confusion. It's something and I think
this is important for anybody who loves kids

469
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.239
and their own or their family members. It's something that is confusing to a

470
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:07.320
child because they're getting the natural pleasure
signals to the brain. Okay, it's

471
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.639
a natural phenomenon with the body does
but your mind knows that it's wrong.

472
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:19.760
So the emotional turmoil that Jody must
have been in is nauseating to me.

473
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:23.440
So it's also a great example of
why a lot of kids are going to

474
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:30.199
blame themselves in abuse cases, because
if it felt good, then I must

475
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.360
have enjoyed it, And if I
enjoyed it, then I must have participated,

476
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.119
or I must have been a part
of it, or if I didn't

477
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.920
stop it, then I played a
role in this somehow. But you know,

478
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:47.239
if their body responds, then why
are they mad? You know,

479
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:52.639
it's just I just can't imagine the
confusion. And then the shame of having

480
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:59.119
to speak up must be unbearable,
you know, like what a horrible headspace

481
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.159
to be in. It literally breaks
my heart. And I know there's people

482
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.880
out there right now and kids out
there right now that are going through this

483
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.159
and don't know how to deal with
it. It's an adult content that a

484
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:15.880
child is having to shoulder. So
another karate tournament came about in April of

485
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.800
eighty three, and this is when
the game went to the next level,

486
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:24.320
and by game, I don't mean
karate. This tournament would forever be burned

487
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:32.159
in Jody's mind because this would be
the first time that Jeff would perform oral

488
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:38.000
sex on him for the first time. Now, if that isn't horrible enough,

489
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.440
what I'm gonna tell you now it's
probably gonna send chills up your spine.

490
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.880
Jody wasn't an idiot, Okay,
Jody understood the things that were happening

491
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:54.239
to him. But now Jeff began
whispering in Jody's ear what he was planning

492
00:36:54.239 --> 00:37:00.639
to do to Jody ahead of time. And this is horrific, and I

493
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:01.599
don't even like to say it,
but I want to tell you the truth.

494
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:09.079
This is when Jeff leans over and
whispers and Jody's ear while they're driving,

495
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:14.480
I'm gonna suck your dick tonight in
the car ride home from the tournament.

496
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:21.880
So now Jody knows what's happening,
what's gonna happen, and he's trapped.

497
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.159
He doesn't really you know, doesn't
really know what to do. And

498
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:31.400
to show you the juvenile mind,
if by Jeff whispering that to Jody,

499
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.159
he thought he was gonna somehow arouse
Jody, he kind of missed the boat

500
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.559
because Jody says his thought immediately after
that was what why I pee out of

501
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:45.639
that thing? Right? Can you
not see the juvenile mind? They're going,

502
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.719
what the hell? So as the
days of the months passed, the

503
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:58.480
abuse would continue, and Jeff would
perform oral sex on Jodi every day for

504
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:02.559
a month, and the more the
abuse occurred, the more Jeff would start

505
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:07.639
to confide in Jody. And by
most accounts, if you ask people,

506
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.440
it's just a weird dynamic that you're
going to abuse a kid and then they

507
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.920
become your confidant. You're a grown
ass man, Jeff. You're twenty four

508
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.559
or twenty three years old. What
are you doing? But by all accounts,

509
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:21.079
Jeff was a good looking man,
you know, and not that looks

510
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.320
have anything to do with with it, but you know, he didn't have

511
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:30.199
trouble with women. And even though
he was a really, really good looking

512
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:35.880
man, Jody would soon find out
that Jeff was an even better con man.

513
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:43.480
All right. So when Jeff really
got installed as the karate instructor,

514
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.840
Jeff started seeing dollar signs when he
went working with the kids, because he

515
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.960
acted like he really cared about the
youth and coaching them and teaching them to

516
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.079
be strong kids. But really,
as you can tell, he was really

517
00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:59.719
trying to get a hold of one
of them. But it was also a

518
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:04.599
big money grab for him. So
locally here we have a paper called The

519
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.159
Advocate, and there's some other papers, but the Morning Advocate newspaper and the

520
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:15.000
State Times even published articles on Jeff
and all of his virtues right as a

521
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.079
karate instructor. They were even on
TV, like he was really making an

522
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.760
impact in this community. They were
on TV, which by the way,

523
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:29.039
was made to happen by Gary Ploche, Jody's dad, because of his connections

524
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.159
at a local TV station where he
used to be a cameraman. This got

525
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:39.199
so big they even met and were
endorsed by the Lieutenant Governor of Louisiana for

526
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:43.800
some cups that they were trying to
sell to raise money. But the problem

527
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:47.000
was that Jeff would just take the
money and take the orders from people,

528
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:54.400
but he never fulfilled the orders.
On top of that, now he's got

529
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.199
Jody kind of over a barrel here, and now a Jeff is starting to

530
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.440
tell Jody, look, I need
you to steal your mother checkbook, and

531
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:04.760
I'm going to have you forge her
signature so I can cash them. I

532
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.000
just need a little cash, right, twenty thirty dollars here and there.

533
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.079
And then he would even fuss it
Jody and be like, no, your

534
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:14.039
signature is not good enough. Do
it again. But then he would take

535
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:15.599
both checks, the one he messed
up one and the one that he says

536
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.400
was quote unquote good, and he
would cash on both. But he was

537
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.320
passing little bits of money, so
Mom never really noticed it. In the

538
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:28.880
account. It was just twenty bucks
here, thirty bucks there. Jeff had

539
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.800
also made these things called Tiger rags, and they were for the LSU Tigers

540
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.079
and they were pre selling them,
and he again took the money from people.

541
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:42.239
He made so much money he even
bought a van with the proceeds,

542
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.320
but he never fulfilled the orders.
I mean, a businessman had even given

543
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:53.519
him fifteen thousand dollars worth of orders
and he fronted him the fifteen grand and

544
00:40:53.679 --> 00:41:00.480
he never got his order. So
you don't screw over a businessman with because

545
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.960
this dude got mad and he ended
up taking Jeff to court for the money

546
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.079
back. You're not going to deliver. I want my money back, And

547
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:13.000
so the pressure began to mount on
Jeff because he owed a lot of money

548
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.480
to a lot of people, and
now it was people that were coming after

549
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:25.360
him. So another big karate tournament
came around, and Jody was now ready

550
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.400
to fight. He had been practicing, and something about all of the practice

551
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:37.199
that stands out to me is typical
pedophile behavior, grooming behavior. You've heard

552
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:42.519
me talk about that before in previous
episodes. But he would take the kids

553
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.159
and you know, put him on
the ground. They need to stretch their

554
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.199
legs, stretch their arms, you
know, stretch, and he would make

555
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:52.679
a point to desensitize to touch,
which is a red flag. But he

556
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.960
would like, you know, the
kids put their legs up, like to

557
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.400
stretch them back, and Jeff would
come in and like slap their inner hamstrings

558
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.599
and go it's tight, loosen it
up, stretch, stretch, and would

559
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.360
be really touching on the kids a
lot so that they became used to it,

560
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:12.760
and that would give him more leeway
to put his hands on them.

561
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:16.239
Now, Jody, though, really
was learning to fight. I'm not gonna

562
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:21.960
say he wasn't. And by the
time this tournament came around, Jody was

563
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.719
holding in a whole lot of pent
up anger, and you can't blame him.

564
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:31.320
And when he went to this tournament, he unleashed a can of whoop

565
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:37.119
ass backed by that anger on his
opponents, and he did so well.

566
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.840
A matter of fact, he actually
took first place in this tournament. When

567
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:47.119
he went he would did great.
And the thing here was that when they

568
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:52.320
were done with the tournament, Jeff
was supposed to drop Jody off at his

569
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:58.119
parents house after the tournament ended,
and he did, but not without first

570
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:04.559
kissing Jody by on the lips.
The problem here, well, first of

571
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.599
all, is you don't kiss someone
else's side on the lips. But it

572
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:14.559
turns out Jody's uncle happened to be
right there, and Jeff didn't see him,

573
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:22.480
but uncle saw Jeff. And when
when Jody saw Jody's uncle saw this

574
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:27.000
happen to him, he was shocked, first of all, but very alarmed.

575
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.400
And the uncle immediately went went inside
and was like, yo, we

576
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:37.239
gotta talk. I just saw Jeff
kiss Jody on the lips, Like what

577
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.599
is going on? I mean,
he was so upset that he even made

578
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.840
a point to look them in the
face and say, a grown man has

579
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:47.760
no business kissing a boy on the
mouth, Like it's just that. Ain't

580
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.199
that. Ain't cool, it's not
how it goes. But being a very

581
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:59.639
good manipulator like Jeff was, he
had an out because unfortunately, as far

582
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:04.880
as time goes, Jody's parents actually
ignored the warning. But I want to.

583
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.599
I want to. It's not because
they're stupid. It's not a promise.

584
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:14.920
Listen, what happened. It just
so happened that an incident had happened

585
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:20.920
just the night before involving Jeff.
Okay, it turns out, okay,

586
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:22.440
you know, I do this like
if my nephew were somebody like, I'll

587
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.199
give him a little pop on.
We call it a fwap, fwap a

588
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.679
flap, right, you fwap somebody
on the back of the head or you

589
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:30.599
pop them. Say quit that,
right, you're not hurting somebody. You

590
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.840
just give them a little little love
tap to change direction and what you're doing.

591
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:40.039
And it turns out Jeff had popped
that uncle's kid on the head,

592
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.800
just like he did all the other
kids when they were being knuckleheads, right,

593
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:46.280
and said boy, and he popped
him at the kid in the head.

594
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.960
But the kid got mad about it. He didn't like that he got

595
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.320
popped in the head. Whether he's
embarrassed or whatever, and he went and

596
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.039
he told his dad about it,
which was the uncle. The uncle that

597
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:59.800
saw Jeff the next day kissed Jody
on the lips, and when the kid

598
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.159
I told Jody's uncle, uncle bowed
up on Jeff and it turned into a

599
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:09.159
big fiasco and he was threatened to
whip Jeff's ass. So the next day,

600
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.960
whenever the uncle was accusing Jeff of
kissing Jody on the lips, the

601
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:15.719
parents were just like, why,
I don't know about that. He's never

602
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.920
done that before. And they really
thought he was just trying to get back

603
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.519
at Jeff, right, to get
Jeff in some kind of trouble because he

604
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:27.679
was so loved by the family and
he had slapped his kid. It,

605
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:34.440
as far as manipulation goes, what
a way to what a way to disarm

606
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.960
a family, right, and to
perfectly use manipulation tactics there to be like,

607
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.679
WHOA, you know, I didn't
I didn't do that. He's just

608
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.599
mad at me as a yesterday and
he's coming off with some bs about me.

609
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.280
I can so see it playing out. I can so see that happened

610
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.679
him. So a couple of red
flags here to point out to this point.

611
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.800
First of all, Jeff Kemp came
in as a quote unquote savior,

612
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:00.639
right he was taking the place of
the other instructor, and he came in

613
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:06.320
to save the day. Number Two, he made it very convenient for him

614
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.679
to always be around the children.
He moved the karate place closer to the

615
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:16.039
Ploche family and conveniently started making the
practices really long, which made it difficult

616
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:19.800
for the parents to get there to
pick the kids up, and he would

617
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.559
give him the ride home. Number
Three, you know, disassociation or not

618
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:30.519
disassociation, but desensitization to touch,
because he would be always rubbing on the

619
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:35.760
kid's legs and stretching them out and
you know, making them used to being

620
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.840
touched by him. Number four,
putting kids in their laps. I don't

621
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:45.199
allow my children to sit in strangers
laps. I've seen too much, you

622
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:52.960
know, putting them in his lap
and then him being able to rub his

623
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.599
hands quote unquote on accident. He's
testing boundaries. He's trying to see what

624
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.480
they're comfortable with and what they're not. And then he's doing the kind of

625
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.119
smoking me because they're getting to drive
the car. And it's easily explained away

626
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.639
to a parent if the kid goes
he touched me, well, baby,

627
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.719
you run his lab Well, he
was trying. He was trying to shift.

628
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.199
You see what I'm saying. I
don't even remember what number I'm on

629
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:16.559
here. Five four, became very
close to the family, built trust with

630
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:23.159
the family right, established that friendship, made himself integral to the family to

631
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:28.519
where now when other people start kind
of wondering what's going on here, it

632
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.079
can be pooh pooed off like that, ain't he didn't do that. He

633
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:37.000
wouldn't do that. Explanation after explanation. And by the way, something that's

634
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.880
not necessarily really mentioned in the book, but I know firsthand, is that

635
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:50.599
at the karate place, he would
have Jody be stretching and then say run

636
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.760
to the restroom, and then he
would tell the kids, all right,

637
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:53.920
I want so and so to be
the leader, and I want you to

638
00:47:53.920 --> 00:48:00.039
finish stretching him out. And while
those kids were practicing their moods and stretching

639
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:05.119
and all of that, he was
hidden in plain sight because he would go

640
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.119
in the bathroom and be messing with
Jody in the bathroom while the other kids

641
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:15.400
were there were there. Pedophiles have
a way it is not the creepy guy

642
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:19.559
jumping out of the bushes going boo. Okay, it's usually someone very close

643
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:23.599
to you, a friend, a
family member, that uncle that likes to

644
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:27.480
tickle, that uncle that likes to
put you on the lap. Sex offenders

645
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.559
do tend to be male, but
not all of them are. Be vigilant,

646
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.519
be careful with your prize, possessions, your children, because it's this

647
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.800
easy. And these were parents that
taught about good touch bad touch. These

648
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:43.159
were parents that vetted someone, even
looking at his criminal record before they let

649
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:50.159
their kids go with him. But
look, I haven't even begun to tell

650
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.840
you the story. I'm telling you. I haven't even begun. But we're

651
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.639
already at like almost an hour,
so I'm gonna have to cut it off

652
00:48:55.679 --> 00:49:00.280
here because there's so much you're not
going to believe this story. I'm telling

653
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:05.320
you you're not, so I hope
you'll stay tuned. All right, I'm

654
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.559
gonna push out the second. It'll
only be a two part series that I

655
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:12.440
tell this story. Okay, but
it's got to be told, even though

656
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.280
some of the details are creepy and
they're uncomfortable, as they should be if

657
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.440
you're normal. Because we don't do
that to children. But I'm gonna tell

658
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.559
the story. And look, if
standing up and speaking for children burns a

659
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:27.400
bridge, well then bitches. I
have the matches and we're riding at dawn.