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In this episode of Unspeakable, KJ shares the story of Mary Fowler and James Dobson, whose Christmas Eve in South Carolina turned tragic in 2014. After a night of celebration, they offered a ride to John Villareal, leading to a violent attack that left Mary dead and James fighting for his life.

Timestamps
00:20 The Case of Mary and James
06:56 A Mother's Nightmare
09:44 The Arrest of John Villareal
14:48 Villareal's Confession Begins
25:09 The True Motive Revealed
26:30 Uncovering Villareal's Past
40:01 The Aftermath for James Dobson
41:53 Justice and Consequences

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast. Or I tell

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stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are

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so shocking that many are left wondering how is this

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even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,

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and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended

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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's

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kJ You're back for an other episode of Unspeakable. How

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are you? I'm fantastic. I just had a birthday. It

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went well, and then Jim sent me a link to

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a site that said that Unspeakable is the number one

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true crime podcast in Louisiana. And I'm on cloud nine

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right now. I'm feeling great and it's all because of

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you people. So I hope you really enjoy this episode,

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and I hope you're just having the best day because

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I'm just having a fantastic day. And this case is

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going to take us out to South Carolina. Where are

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my South Carolina people? I'm in your neck of the woods.

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This one is going to be taking place in twenty fourteen,

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and it's gonna be Christmas Eve. So there's two friends

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that decided to go out for the evening. And they

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weren't dating or anything like that. I want to be clear.

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They were just friends. They were heading out for a

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night of fun and relaxation. Their names were They were

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forty three year old Mary Fowler and forty four year

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old James Dobson. And James had just gotten a new

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car courtesy of his parents, and so he was going

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to be for the evening. He liked this car. It

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was nice. It was a twenty thirteen Hyundai Elantra. Now

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that will come into play. That's why I'm being so

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specific about the car. And y'all, these were your average

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everyday people, okay, regular jobs. I didn't have a ton

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of information on the both of them, y'all know, I

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go out of my way to find out about these victims.

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I can tell you that Mary was a pretty lady.

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She had curly brown hair. There were limited photos of her,

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but she just seemed to be a nice lady. And

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James was your average run of the mill worker, just

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good salt of the earth. People, and they were going

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out for some honest fun and have a good time.

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It was cold outside and there was like this really

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strong chill in the air as the two were driving

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along and chatting, discussing their plans for the evening and

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just doing what friends do. And like I said, it

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was Christmas Eve, so they had that cheer with them

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of the holidays, and it was hard to ignore, you know,

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because it's just a happy time during the holidays. And

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since it was Christmas and it was cold and it

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was the most wonderful time of the year, they decided

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to be kind to someone because of all of the

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joy of the evening. But the two of them wouldn't

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make it home for Christmas morning before a nine to

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one one call would come in to the local police

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Anderson emergency. Yes, yes, Leah and le are on eighty

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five sounds. Someone's playing on the side of earth. They've

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been shot. Yes, your brain that might chelling for our help, Okay,

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even a lot of things.

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Nurse two people in her person, the star who's shut.

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So as you heard that caller happened upon these victims

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and they were just laying on the side of the road.

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It was like six fifteen in the morning while they

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were traveling. This traveler was going between mile markers sixteen

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and seventeen on I eighty five in Anderson County, And

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that's kind of strange that early in the morning for

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there already to be some drama happening. Their bodies were located,

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specifically on the southbound shoulder of the interstate, and that's

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when that motorist happened upon them and stopped to render aid.

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It was crazy. It wasn't just one person, it was two,

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and it turns out it was the bodies of Mary

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and James. So police arrived to find no vehicle, there

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was no weapon. The police really had no idea what

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was going on. So while no weapon was found at

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the scene nor the surrounding areas where they looked around,

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it was readily obvious that both victims had been shot.

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Mary had been shot in the head once, just one time,

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and James had been shot in the head multiple times.

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So ambulances were called and the two were picked up

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and they were transported immediately to the local hospitals because amazingly,

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both of them still had a pulse when they were found.

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Immediately they were treated for their wounds They tried to

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repair them as best as possible, but unfortunately, Mary would

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succumb to her injuries later that evening. James, though, was

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still clinging to life, but he was on a respirator,

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He was heavily sedated, and he was going to need

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a lot of care to remain living. He was moved

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into a critical care area and his chances of survival

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were really uncertain as far as doctors were concerned. And

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the police really had no leads and they didn't have

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anyone to ask about what may have happened. There was

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no one there, There was no one around, so they

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began chasing down leads, which would begin with the fact

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that James's vehicle was missing and obviously someone had to

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have taken it. So when they figured out and they

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got in contact with James's family, they mentioned, yeah, he

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took the car for the night. The car's gone. That's

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going to be boomed. Their first lead that they're going

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to go down. So a bolo of be on the

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lookout was issued and it went out over the airwaves

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for all the officers that were in the area to

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keep their eyes peeled for a light colored Hyundai Elantra.

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The police went and they questioned James's parents, but the

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parents really had no idea what had happened. They couldn't

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give any clue as to who would have done this,

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And whenever the police mentioned that he was with a

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friend named Mary Fowler, they didn't know her. They couldn't

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even identify who that was, and they certainly did not

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have any information on what the extent of their relationship was,

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and so they were really not much help. So, you know,

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but James was an adult, you know, It's not like

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they're going to know every single relationship that he had.

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But what they did know was that they were on

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their knees and that they were praying with all of

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their might that their son may survive this horrific incident.

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Six days would pass and nothing would break in the case.

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The car was missing, Mary was dead, and James was

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still in critical condition. During that time, however, the mother

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of a seventeen year old girl three hundred miles away

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in Georgia was horrified at a situation that took place

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at her home. She was at the house when a

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man showed up and was trying to get her daughter,

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trying to take her daughter. The mother didn't know who

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he was. She didn't understand why he was at her house,

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and she was completely alarmed that he had made entry

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into their home. So she began yelling at this guy, saying,

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you better get out of here, Get out of my house.

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You have two seconds to get out of here or

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I'm calling the police. That's when this man just nonchalantly

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walks to the back door and he opens it. And

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as he opens it, he turns to this mother and says,

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and this is a quote, we can either do this

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the easy way or the hard way, and then he

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closes the door behind him. He then made his way

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to the front of the house and he started yelling,

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I'll wait for five minutes in the front for you.

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So the mom's tripping. She doesn't know what's going on.

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Who is this guy, Why does he want my daughter?

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And so she made a call to the police, and

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so luckily a deputy was nearby and he showed up

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pretty quickly. As soon as the deputy showed up, the

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man kicked bricks. He left, you know, thinking that this

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was scary, obviously, but over the family locked their doors.

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They went about their business, and I'm sure that involved

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things like talking to their daughter about safety and about strangers,

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and about you know this, This was a close call.

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This could have been really bad. But five days later,

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that mom's nightmare came true again when this same man appeared.

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She found him lurking around their house when she happened

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to pull up from work that day. But this time,

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Mama Bear wasn't fucking around. She watched as that creeper

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noticed she pulled up. He ran, He jumped in his car,

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and he sped away. But like I said, Mama Bear

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was ready to engage. She threw that car and reverse.

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She backed out of her driveway and she tore out

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after this man, and the chase was on. She chased

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this man's vehicle and she tailed his ass at speeds

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of ninety to one hundred miles an hour. She was

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right on him, trying to catch this guy. But at

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some point, once they got to those really really high

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rates of speed, she realized this is just getting out

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of control. This is way too dangerous, and so she

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decided to break off the chase, and she pretty much

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lost him. This mother was dumbfounded as to what was

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going on and who was this stranger that kept coming

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to her house. Well, the very next day, a deputy

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by the name of Deputy Coward. That's unfortunate, but Deputy Coward.

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He was with the Anderson County Sheriff's Office. He was

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patrolling in the Belton area, which was a town over

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from where those original shootings had occurred of Mary and James.

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So he was on duty. It was about ten thirty

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in the morning when he saw what he thought was

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that bolo vehicle that he had heard on that announcement

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days earlier. So he stopped and did what a good

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officer would do, and he decided to investigate. And when

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he got to the vehicle, he found that it wasn't unoccupied.

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There was actually an unknown white male in the vehicle.

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So he approached it and he ran the plates and

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guess what he verified it was stolen. This was that

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stolen vehicle he was absolutely looking for, and this guy

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inside obviously had possible involvement in a murder and an

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attempted murder. So he asked for the man's ID and

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the guy gave it to him and identified himself as

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twenty two year old John Villarreal. Now John was kind

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of a dorky looking fella. He had a really thin,

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kind of long face, non threatening looking fella, tall, skinny

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like literally right now, start singing mbop you know, mumbob bye.

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Do you know bob By Hanson? And I want you

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to think of that older brother when they were young

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and he had that ponytail on the back and you're

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literally getting the essence of what John Villheil looks like. So,

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considering he was in possession of a car that was

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thought to be involved in this shooting incident and then

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the ultimate dumping of these bodies, he was taken into

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custody with no incident. He didn't fight or anything like that.

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So photos were taken of the vehicle. Off posted these

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photos and patreons so you can take a look at him.

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And the car looked to be pretty clean. It has

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tan interior, it's very deep, neat, very tidy. There's only

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a doctor pepper, you know, sitting in the cup holder

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until the doors were completely opened. And once the doors

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were opened then you could see the sides of the

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seats where there was clearly a really large dark red

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stain on the seat portion of the passenger side near

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where your thigh would be resting if you were sitting

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in the seat, and it looked like it had been

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wiped up, and this was basically a remnant stain on

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the vehicle. There was no coagulated blood or tissue or

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anything like that. So the police had a further inventory

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of the car and what they found was a Walter

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twenty two semi automatic pistol with a laser sight attached

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on the floorboard. This was obviously interesting to the police

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officers because this was the same caliber weapon that was

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used to shoot both of the victims that were on

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the side of the road. Also, they found a vest

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with a name tag on it that said Jack, and

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so I do have photos of that as well, and

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it looks to be a Walmart vest like the greeters wear,

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and Jack was James's nickname, and that was found in

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the car. So I mean, it doesn't take a rocket

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scientist to figure out, yep, this is the car and

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that's James's things that are in the car. So while

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this certainly said, you know, man, this looks like he

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shot the two people, it wasn't anything close to solid proof.

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Circumstantial sure, but not beyond a reasonable doubt proof, nothing

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close enough to put handcuffs on him and say that,

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you know, you've killed these people. So John Villarel was

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brought in for questioning immediately after he was arrested, and

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his account of things was that a friend had let

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him borrow the car. So police continued to ask questions,

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but John really just couldn't answer them. He didn't know

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the answers to what they were asking. He was completely

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as clueless as everybody else that didn't know what had

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gone on in this case. And he was questioned for

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two hours and continually expressed, I don't know what you're

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talking about. I don't know what yours. I borrowed this car.

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A friend let me borrow it. I can't assist you

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in any other way than to let you know that

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I borrowed the car. So police kept asking more questions,

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us didn't get anywhere, and with nothing else to hold

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him on other than the fact that he had been

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in possession of a stolen car, he was released. So

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the police were really exhausted for the day. You know,

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it had been a long day. They were about to

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leave and they were packing up for the end of

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the day, and that's when they started hearing banging on

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the door outside of the station, like someone banging on

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the door to let them in, so kind of confused,

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they go and they open the door and they look

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and none other than John Villerel was standing there. Now,

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it had been two hours since they had cut him

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loose after his interview. It was now six thirty in

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the evening, and so they're looking at him kind of confused,

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like what's up. And now he's saying he wanted to

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come back in and talk more to detectives. The police

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were honestly aggravated at this point, and we're telling him, look, dude,

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you gotta go. You know you're not talking to us,

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you don't have anything to add, and we're not going

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to go round and round and round saying the same shit.

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It's not getting anywhere, it's not helping anything. And he says, no,

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this time's going to be different. I've got more I

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want to tell you. All right, if that's the case,

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come on in. So they bring him into the interrogation

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room and they start recording. Now, do you remember if

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you're one of my listeners that listens in order. If not,

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you're not gonna know what I'm talking about. But if

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you are, do you remember a few episodes ago how

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one of the killers agreed to talk to police, but

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only if he could record it. And it was strange, like,

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what do you mean you'll talk to police only if

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you can record it. It's just an odd request. Well,

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you know, let me introduce you to strange guy number two.

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In that John tells the police very matter of fact.

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I want to record a copy of this sent to

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my family. But you know, like just flat out and

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he's very direct, and his tone is almost condescending the

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way he says it to them, and then he starts talking.

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Rather than explain it to you, I want you to

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hear him tell it in his own voice. In this

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audio from his interview, I'm not here.

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For a question answercession. I'm here to tell you what happened. Lad,

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My managements turned over. Well, I'm going to tell you

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is going to make your shaw drop fro it. Let's

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go back to the night before Christmas Eve. I get

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a message from my girl telling them that her stepdad

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has been beating her, etc. So me, I jumped, and

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I said, if I could steal a car and come

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down there right now and get you out of there

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and get you somewhere safe. I said, what do you

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do it? She said, yes, I expected that. When I

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got down to her place, I expected, I'm going to

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pull it down, okay, And I expected at that point

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to go ahead and just back everybody in there and

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try not to think of that. That's what happened with

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fig More. I don't don't heard anybody originally. Well, they

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were rolling along down the Fletcher Street. In fact, when

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I came across and had my pack in my back

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of my rainsuit still on, kept in my head, asked

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them if they could take me diety five. He said,

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do you have some gas money? He said, you know

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how much? You don't want? Five bucks? I said, okay,

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five bucks in the car. The man the one, don't

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know any names, don't remember the hair, but I hope

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he survives, to be honest with you, now, I got

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in that car and we started going. They were as

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nice as anything, and the man offered to take me

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to the Georgia line. He said he had the time

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to do it, so you do it for twenty five

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bucks in gas money. Reasonable enough, somebody, He said this,

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were you already in the car. The car we're going

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down at eighty five. At that point, as we were

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driving down the road, I got to a point where

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I was ready to try to commentate the car, and

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you know what I told him. I to take a leak,

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asked him to pull over. Classic move. I never suspected it.

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You know what, in the moment, I presumed the man

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was armed. As a result, I didn't try to commentate

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the car, but I assumed. Okay. I didn't even give

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him a chance to show a gun. You remember sitting here,

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ripping front of me, head rests in between. I said,

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in the left passenger seat, passengers here, the first thing

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you do, did you take in the first thing? You

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just tell yourself, don't think about it, don't feel because

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you can't do it if you think, because you wrong

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and you take aim perfect him pump one in the

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head of her here slumps over before the bank can react.

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I screwed over quick boot, I missed. I hit his neck.

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Now I put three hounds right in his neck because

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I was trying to hit the head. But I was

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trying it of truped too quick because I wanted to

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get it done. Didn't really want to shoot it, didn't

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really want to do it, and I did. For two

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days after head I prayed for that man to survive

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because once I realized that I'd hit him the neck.

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I realized he might survive. I kept praying, and I

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kept praying for forgiveness. The thing is, Lord can't get

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forgive us if you don't if you don't tell the truth,

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if you lie about it, you're going to hell.

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What in the world did you hear what he said

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about those two victims on the side of the road,

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I quote, don't know who they are and don't really care.

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What a fucking asshole at minimum? Who says that? Like

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who says that? Who comes in to confess basically and

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then says I don't know who they are and I

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don't really care, like you're some kind of macho man

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or something. In his mind. His explanation of events was

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basically that he was in some way this night and

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shining armor or heading to go, you know, save a girl.

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But he completely disregards the life of two other people

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as if you know, his intentions were pure, and it

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somehow almost excuses the murder and attempted murder of two

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people because he feels like he's going to be a

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savior of some sort. It's beyond understanding. And this is

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where a lot of people who tell this story. Leave it.

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They're like, slam bam, thank you, ma'am. You know that's

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what happened. He came in, here's the confession, and like

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it's just that simple, and it's wrapped up in this nice,

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pretty little bow. But then there's me, and I'm someone

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like you probably I want the truth. I want the

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whole truth. I want all of the details. And I

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know this for a fact that people who confess usually

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leave out parts because it doesn't make them look really good.

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This wasn't just some hero plan to save a girl

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from an abusive relationship or something. No, there was much

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more to this. See. His plan was to return to

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Georgia to complete what he called a quote wet extraction

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on an unsuspecting family. So I do not ever claim

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to be a know at all, and I wanted to

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know more information about this, so I consulted with some

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of my military friends and some people in my family

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that are military, and all of them pretty much told

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me the same thing, that a wet extraction would involve

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going to get someone that would involve water or a

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waterway in some fashion. And I'm like, well, I don't

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really understand that. Then why would he say that maybe

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he's just ignorant, you know that he would call it that.

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But then my stepdad, who is a marine Simper five,

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he and I were talking about it. He called me

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because I had posted something about it, and he said

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the same thing. He was like, yeah, I mean, it's

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usually whenever we would go do an extra wet extraction

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in Vietnam, you know, it'd be water involved whatever. But

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then he kind of muttered something under his breath and

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I it caught my attention because he said, I mean,

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or it could just be that someone thinks something's going

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to be really bloody, and I was like, wait what,

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and he said, I mean it could also be like

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the slang way of saying that there's going to be

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a lot of bloodshed when you go to get somebody.

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And that's when it was like bingo, Okay, I get

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what he's saying and why he called it that. It says, Aha, moment,

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this prick is trying to say that his wet extraction

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is going to be a super bloody event with tons

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of violence. Y'all. This guy's a friggin nerd. He gives

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complete and total Columbine Shooter vibes. If you look at him.

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He's bony and geeky. He's not rico suave with the ladies.

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He's got like this gamer thing going on. This guy

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who who thinks that his skills on grand theft, auto

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and military games actually make him like a real operative

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with actual skills at extractions. That's the essence of what

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this guy feels like to me. The more I listened

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to him speak, this wasn't about water. This was about bloodshed,

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and he was intrigued with causing a lot of damage

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and a lot of suffering, and he wanted the blood

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to flow. His thoughts were as if he was this

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military man on a mission that required him to be violent. Okay,

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but why, Like, I need to know more about this.

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Why and what for? What is this great obsession with

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this violence? What would cause you to put bullets in

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the back of strangers heads?

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Why?

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So real quick, I don't even know if I mentioned this.

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You know, they had pulled over because they saw him

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walking on the side of the road on Christmas Eve.

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Mary and James felt sorry for him, and they decided

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to do a good deed on Christmas Eve and offered

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to give him a ride so he wouldn't have to

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walk that is how they came to encounter this guy.

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So what could possibly motivate you to put bullets in

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strangers heads who are doing you a favor and being

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kind to you? And y'all, it is the age old

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motivator and the answer is sex. See it turns out

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mister Mann here had an online girlfriend who he felt

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needed to be rescued from her home. His plans he

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was gonna go kill the stepfather, kill this girl's mother,

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and kill her older brother in an ambush. Thank god

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that he was caught before this ever could happen, But

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that doesn't undo what Mary and James had been through.

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And y'all, it also wasn't just a girl. It was

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an underage girl, that's right, The young girl that was

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being pursued by that man in that home three hundred

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miles away. That was none other than twenty two year

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old John Villarreal trying to take that teen girl who

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he met from an online chatting sight. He met someone online.

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I believe it was Facebook. I don't remember exactly, but

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they met online. If that doesn't give you insight to

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the mindset of his unacceptable response to not getting what

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he wants, then I don't know what will is a

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woman dead and another person fighting for his life life

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all over trying to go and take a teen girl

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while also planning to go murder her family. Like, are

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you serious, my guy? Is this really what you're trying

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to tell us? Was happening? So police were hearing all

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of this, but they had to make sure too, So

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they needed to investigate this guy more. Let me see

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what he's really about and what he seemed to lack

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in physical threat and appearance, he more than made up

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with in mental you know, deficit or problems it seemed.

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It turns out, after a complete search of the vehicle,

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they found a total of four firearms, and creepy yet

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true was that they also found a rain suit. So

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was it raining when the killings were happening?

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You know?

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Why was there a rain suit in the car? No?

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Absolutely not. When he was questioned about it, that's when

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John Villarreal callously explained to police that he was bringing

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a black raincoat because he was going to wear it

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during his wet extraction. He didn't want to get blood

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all over his clothes and it would wash off easy.

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Once he got the teen's family murdered, it would be

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much easier just to wash off a raincoat than it

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would be to get it on his clothes. So a

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warrant was executed on John's home, where the police also

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recovered an additional rifle, as well as some things that

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they were pretty interested to find. This included the contents

466
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:35.480
from James's wallet, so this was clearly a trophy he

467
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.640
had kept to memorialize what had happened. And as they're

468
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.119
looking through his things, they also found articles from the

469
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.559
local newspapers that were detailing the investigation and the shootings.

470
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.599
To that point, he was making himself a little scrap

471
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:53.559
book of his work that he was proud of, so

472
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:58.119
to speak. He was memorializing what he had done. And

473
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:01.400
what's more, they also found two bullet cases, and so

474
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.960
those bullet casings were taken and turned into the crime lab.

475
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.119
They were tested and they were shown to be consistent

476
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.559
with the weapon that was fired and killed Mary and

477
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:16.880
shot James. Now, there were also some papers that they

478
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.799
found on how to make homemade silencers. So a silencer,

479
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:23.480
if you're not familiar, it's also called a suppressor. But

480
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:30.400
there's no legitimate purpose to make a silencer other than

481
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.039
you know, like if you were going to muffle the

482
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.599
sound for like sportsmen for hunters, And the argument there

483
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:38.519
is kind of like, I guess hearing protection if you

484
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.200
want to call it that, And I know someone right

485
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:41.960
now is gonna argue with me and say, what are

486
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.400
you talking about? But I even did research to make

487
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.079
sure what I'm telling you is on par and it is.

488
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:52.279
And in forty one states suppressors are legal for hunting.

489
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.319
So basically, the suppressor is going to lower the noise

490
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:58.960
level to about thirty five decibels, which is comparable to

491
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.480
having earplugs in and so like if you live near

492
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:03.599
a firing range or if you have hunting land and

493
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.119
you live around it, it limits the complaints that are

494
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.039
made about all the noise. And then there's also an

495
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.279
argument that's made that you know, it reduces recoil and

496
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.200
it could decrease the muzzle flinch that could happen. So

497
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.680
if you like animals, animal lovers, you know, make an

498
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.839
argument that a silencer or a suppressor is cool because

499
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.799
it makes you better like on your shot placement, which

500
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:25.759
would make for a more humane hunt because you're more

501
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.480
likely to hit the right area. Only eight states have

502
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.079
outlawed suppressors, so I don't know. I thought maybe you

503
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.440
might be curious as to know who they are, and

504
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.519
you might could guess it. But I'll tell you who

505
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:46.079
they are. California, Shocker, Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island,

506
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.559
New Jersey, and Delaware. They will not let you have

507
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:54.119
a suppressor for your firearm. But John Villarreal did not

508
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:58.680
have humaneness. You know, in his mind, he wanted this

509
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.359
suppressor so that he could get away with murder hands down.

510
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.240
He didn't want people to hear what he was doing.

511
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:06.799
He was very matter of fact and telling the police

512
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.640
about how he had created these suppressors, and then he detailed,

513
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.680
like it really detailed, how he had prepared for this

514
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.359
extraction that he was going to go do, and that

515
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.119
he had a lot of plans to commit this, which

516
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:25.359
included creating a training area for his tactical shooting practice.

517
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.599
And you know, he was proud. I mean, I don't

518
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.519
know how to explain this. You have to see him

519
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.640
do this, but it's like he's proud. He felt like

520
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:37.200
a manly man. When he was recounting the murder, or

521
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:42.319
the shooting and killing of one person and the attempted

522
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:46.079
murder of another person. He looks like someone off of

523
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:48.839
Big Bang Theory if you ever watched that, like total

524
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.839
nerd central skinny arms and bony elbows and so being

525
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:54.759
capable of this is kind of like, you know, you

526
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.200
kind of turn your nose about it, like really And

527
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:01.359
I don't know about you, but when he started claiming

528
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:06.240
that he was praying for James to survive, I got angry.

529
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.559
Don't you dare say that you were praying that he survived.

530
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:13.960
Don't you dare say that you care now now that

531
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.839
you realize James didn't die yet and that you don't

532
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.160
know whether he'll be able to say what happened and

533
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.720
testify against you. He says, I prayed that the man

534
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.079
would survive. Why didn't you pray for Mary? I'm just curious,

535
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.720
why not? Why didn't you say a prayer for the

536
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.640
woman that you shot? And the answer is because you

537
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.519
don't need to. She's dead and she's of no consequence

538
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:37.359
to you. The reality is that you dumped James and

539
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.759
Mary on the shoulder of the highway and you went

540
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.680
about your so called mission. He threw out their belongings

541
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.880
At the next exit he got to after he dumped

542
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:49.720
them out, he threw all their stuff out, and then

543
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.640
he even went and stopped at a truck stop so

544
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.960
he could clean out the car. So I mean, I

545
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.200
guess he was praying to God as he was trying

546
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.839
to cover up the evidence. I guess. Sure. Yeah, I

547
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:04.039
believe that whatever total lack of emotion during this confession,

548
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.440
the only time that there was even a hint at

549
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.759
some type of emotion is when it was brought up

550
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.279
that he said that he might not get to go

551
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:13.920
to heaven. That's when he let his little lip quiver.

552
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.799
He might not go to heaven, but please don't let

553
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.640
that maybe possibly get you in your feels, because there

554
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.440
is always more. There's always more. Police would continue to investigate,

555
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.720
and they would uncover the fact that John Villarreal had

556
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:33.559
a pattern of poor behavior when it came to females.

557
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:38.240
He didn't just now snap under the pressures of going

558
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.920
to save his lover, which by the way, he never

559
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:46.200
met in real life. It's ridiculous. He was at the

560
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.440
center of a harassment complaint by an Appalachian State University student.

561
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.359
She went to them and said, I am afraid of

562
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:57.400
this guy, and his social media posts are like veiled

563
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.160
threats against me. I really think y'all need to look

564
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.839
into this. She was a junior at the university. She

565
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.680
had had a very very brief relationship with John Villarrel

566
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:10.839
and at first, you know, she thought, well, he's a

567
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.480
nice guy, you know, but then she quickly realized that

568
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.920
not only was he just like weird, she got this

569
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.480
dangerous weird vibe from him. So when she broke it off,

570
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.599
that's when this guy decided that he was going to

571
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:31.519
go one hundred percent full on cyberstalking and social media

572
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.799
attacking of this girl. He went out with her one time,

573
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.279
she decided that she did not want to be with

574
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.680
him anymore, and so he went on the offensive and

575
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:43.960
he started doing things that I think anyone would be

576
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:48.279
upset by. Specifically, he got all of her personal information

577
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:51.920
and he put it online, like her full legal name,

578
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.640
her current address at the university she put He put

579
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.480
her parents address out there, her email was put out there.

580
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.759
And I know, you're like, well, so what crazy people

581
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.519
would love to go and attack this girl for no reason.

582
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.320
So she got very alarmed by this, and looking at

583
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.320
all these postings that he was doing about her, she

584
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.920
went and confronted him and was like, what are you doing?

585
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.320
I don't even know you, bro like, leave me alone.

586
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.239
And all he would say to her was that he

587
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.000
was not responsible for anything that may happen to her.

588
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.119
He was just putting information on the internet. So that's

589
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.440
when she contacted the university police and they looked into

590
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.000
his post online and they found that there was even

591
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:38.760
more to this guy. He loved to post and boast

592
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.599
about his anti law enforcement sentiments and even said this

593
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.440
is a direct quote, by the way, quote, I'm not

594
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.880
afraid of the corrupt law enforcers who may be working

595
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.400
with you, And he was mentioning the girl that had

596
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.360
broken up. I don't even think it's a breakup. It's

597
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:55.840
more like I don't want to see you anymore. But

598
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.400
I'll say who broke up with him? And he even

599
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.679
challenged the police at that point and said, quote, if

600
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:04.760
you want me, this is an open challenge to come

601
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.480
for me. But if you do, I will defend myself

602
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.679
and anyone who tries to harm me will die. Consider

603
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.360
yourselves warned. I'm sure the local sheriff will understand me

604
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:24.559
shooting an assailant. This has absolute Columbine shooter vibes with

605
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:29.639
this pseudo bravado and his anger towards everyone who doesn't

606
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:33.440
like how he behaves, you know, the Columbine shooters. He

607
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.639
also bragged about how they wanted to take these Christian

608
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.599
goody goods as they called them, and how they would

609
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:40.840
love to rape them and sexually assault them and all

610
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:44.679
of this. They talked about that, just like John Villeril

611
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.400
looked at women as property, not people, and he liked

612
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.920
to attack them as well if they rejected him. And

613
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.400
the Columbine shooters themselves talked a whole lot about how

614
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.639
women rejected the other girls rejected them and didn't want

615
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.960
to date them. So there's like this theme there if

616
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.360
you look at people like this, wanting the threats to stop,

617
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:08.559
the girl says, okay, well, you know, I don't want

618
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.159
this to escalate. She started thinking maybe what she was

619
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:15.159
doing was escalating this, and so she had been pursuing

620
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.119
a protective order in the courts against him to make

621
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.400
him cease and desist talking about her to her or

622
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.159
being around her. But as a lot of people do

623
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:26.079
when they just want something to go away, she decided

624
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.800
against pursuing the charges against him because she just wanted

625
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.880
it to go away. Also, when the police investigated it,

626
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.320
they decided that, you know, they wanted to see if

627
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.559
they could maybe put some misdemeanor charges against him, like

628
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:43.840
for cyberstalking or something to kind of like, you know,

629
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.199
check him and say bruh, we're gonna we're gonna stop this.

630
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.400
You're not gonna do it. But when it was all

631
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:52.000
sudden done, they really couldn't find a law, a specific

632
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.039
law that had been broken. Poor taste, absolutely, but no

633
00:36:56.199 --> 00:37:01.719
specific law. And so he, the detective that worked on

634
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:04.159
that case, even talked to this girl and said, you know,

635
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.760
maybe you should go before the judge and you should

636
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.400
get this protective order, which, like I said, she considered doing.

637
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.519
But the messages soon after that stopped, and so she

638
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.280
didn't want to antagonize him anymore as she was thinking

639
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.840
about it, and so she quit going after it. My

640
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.400
personal opinion is that it only stopped because he latched

641
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.400
on to this young underage girl and started making that

642
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.199
his focus. I don't know that for a fact that

643
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.840
that's what I feel like in my gut. But the

644
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:40.079
police were so alarmed by him that the university police

645
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.840
that they then went and contacted the local police and

646
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.360
sheriff's office and warned them, look if you deal with

647
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:50.519
this guy approached with caution because he makes tons of

648
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:55.559
posts about stand your ground laws, and he genuinely believed

649
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.840
that the police were harassing him, that he had grounds

650
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:04.800
to shoot the police. So, you know, this girl said

651
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:10.079
that his behavior was odd almost immediately. She said that

652
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.760
whenever they went like walking around the city that first

653
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.000
date or whatever, just kind of get to know each other,

654
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:19.559
that when people would be passing them, he would periodically

655
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.039
point somebody out and say, does that look like a

656
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:27.400
federal agent to you? Like, what a freakin' douchebag you

657
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.679
think the Feds are after you? Like, come on. So

658
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.400
at first she said that she kind of believed him

659
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.719
to be kind of considerate, but then when she got

660
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:41.079
alone with him, she became very uncomfortable with him, and

661
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:44.280
so she only went around him like one or two

662
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.920
more times. And she said that it was at the

663
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:50.440
National Mall. But after that second time she was like, Yeah,

664
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.840
I'm done. This guy's weird. There's something wrong with him.

665
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.159
He continued to try to pursue her after she made

666
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.320
it very clear that she wasn't interested. She even had

667
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.320
to hide her idea identity, she had to change her profiles,

668
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:07.000
she made like fake alternate Facebook accounts, but he went

669
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.119
and made tons of Facebook accounts and was trying to

670
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.599
watch her and then sending messages to people that knew her,

671
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.760
saying that they should be harassing her and sending her

672
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.599
nasty messages and there's things wrong with her like this

673
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:25.559
is a total cyberstalking to me issue. So not only

674
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.159
is John Villereal a murdering ass hat, but he's also

675
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.679
an entitled prick who thinks his beliefs and his wants

676
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.400
outweigh the rest of us. It's all about what he

677
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.360
wants get in his way, and he's going to do

678
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.800
what he wants, or he's going to get what he wants,

679
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:46.519
whether through vengeance fueled actions or just because you got

680
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.119
in his way, he'll take you out. He doesn't care.

681
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.480
So John villerel after that whole confession and everything that

682
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.679
came to light here, was charged with murder, attempted murder, carjacking,

683
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:07.880
and gun possession. Amazingly, James Dobson survived this. Unbelievably. He

684
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:14.920
survived this, but not without life altering consequences. This though,

685
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.800
and I want to make this crystal clear, there is

686
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:24.719
a difference between surviving and thriving. And this is why

687
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.039
justice to me is just a word. Because James suffered

688
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.599
two gunshot wounds to his head. The bullets they entered

689
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.400
right behind his right ear and they came out through

690
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.800
his left eye. He was shot through his head. He

691
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.480
still has six bullet fragments that are left in his

692
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:53.159
brain that they could not get out, and his left

693
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:57.679
eye was completely obliterated, so he lost his eye. Today

694
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:03.599
he lives with severely diminished vision. Even the one eye

695
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:07.800
that's remaining doesn't work well because of the trauma of

696
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.239
the bullets through his head. He can't see. He is

697
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.960
completely paralyzed on his left side and no longer is

698
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.119
able to walk. He is wheelchair bound. He can't care

699
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:24.679
for himself alone. You know, he was a guy living

700
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:27.719
his life and he can't even care for himself. Like

701
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.760
he can't personally care for himself anymore. He has have assistance.

702
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.000
His speech is slowed, his pain is chronic, and it's

703
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:41.880
never ending, And in my opinion, nothing will ever compensate

704
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for that. A man who is feeling generous and kind

705
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on Christmas Eve sure did pay a pretty huge price

706
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for his kindness. Villarreal pled guilty and he was ultimately

707
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sentenced to life in prison. You know, I think that

708
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John Villarreal held himself in way too high esteem and

709
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was consistently out kicking his coverage. If you know what

710
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I mean, he certainly is nowhere near as macho as

711
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he thought he was in his own mind. I mean,

712
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helly ran away from someone's mama when they showed up.

713
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The guy who's gonna be the wet extraction ran away

714
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from a mama. So much for that, you know, military

715
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mind that he had. He caved within an hour of

716
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leaving his own interrogation, Like, know your limitations, dude. As

717
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much as he liked to travel and drive, he would

718
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have benefited tremendously by realizing there's literally no traffic if

719
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you just stay in your lane. Warning Unspeakable is intended

720
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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised.