Sept. 2, 2025

Love Triangle: Diana Haun

Love Triangle: Diana Haun
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Season 8

In this episode of Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings, KJ unpacks the disappearance of Sherry Dally, examining her troubled marriage and the ensuing investigation, which raises suspicions about her husband, Mike, and reveals unsettling evidence.

Chapters
05:10 The Lead-up
30:25 The Search for Sherry Begins
31:02 Media Attention and Family Struggles
34:42 Investigation Takes a Turn
45:48 The Discovery of Remains
48:05 Autopsy Results
57:58 Arrest and Evidence Collection

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Sources

  1. https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/columnists/2018/09/08/colleen-cason-sensational-ventura-murder-case-back-news/1213689002/
  2. Forensic Files - Season 8, Episode 4
  3. https://www.the-sun.com/news/8556909/michael-dally-diana-haun-now-dateline/
  4. https://ciris.mt.cdcr.ca.gov/details?cdcrNumber=W71808
  5. https://dotcomstories.com/sherri-and-michael-dallys-kids
6. https://www.cetient.com/case/people-v-haun-ca26-9357028

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Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell

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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so

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not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's

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kJ You're back for another episode of Unspeakable. What is

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up with you? I am recording this. You're not listening

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to it at this moment. But I'm recording this right

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before we kick off our football season. So if you

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can see me on Patreon, I'm wearing my LSU purple

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and gold. Go Tigers. By the time you hear this,

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you'll already do the outcome of the game. So how

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cool is that? But for now, let me give you

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a bang up episode that you can really enjoy. And

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so for this one, I want you to go with

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me to Ventura, California. And this is a place right

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near the Ocean, super beautiful place, a very middle class area,

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as with anywhere, there's highs and lows and incomes, but

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a real generally good area for someone to set up

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their life and start out. And this was the home

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of Mike and Sherry Dally. Now by the time I'm

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telling you this story, they were both in their thirties

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and well established as a couple. And it's going to

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be nineteen ninety six that we are jumping into this story.

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Now they were high school sweethearts turned spouses for the

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last twelve years, and they were, by all accounts, a

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match made in heaven. Mike had been the big man

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on campus and a popular boy that other younger guys

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looked up to and honestly probably wanted to be. He

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drove a black money Carlo that he liked to tool

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around the school with and really show off. And the

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girls they really took to this. Now, Sherry, she was

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no different than these other girls when Hawaiian Mike as

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he was known, asked her out, and she was completely

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over the moon he picked me. Can you remember being

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in high school? It's like that Taylor Swift, you know,

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when you're fifteen you just want to date the football

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player and all that kind of stuff. The quarterback, Well,

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that's kind of how she felt and she could not

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wait for this first date. Cherry was just so, you know,

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the younger of two kids, and her mom was really

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tickled by her because as she got older, Sherry really

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became spunky. She was a very feisty type of girl,

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and it was a girl that guys, they may not

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have paid a lot of attention to her overall, but

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that personality shown through for her. So Michael, whenever the

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two of them met, they really seemed to mirror that

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energy on each other, which was really fun. And her

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mom was even impressed with Mike when she met him.

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She agreed, Yes, he's handsome and really really boosted the

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self esteem of Sherry that she was getting to go

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out with him. She was impressed with him. She saw

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the excitement that was on her daughter's face and how

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happy he made her. This was every girl's dream date

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and she was getting to go with the handsome boy

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on campus. And Sherry was really getting to just live

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in this moment and it just meant a lot to

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her mama to see her girl thrive and after that

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first date, from that point forward, they were a couple,

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and by the age of eighteen, things were going strong

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for these two. They never looked back. He wanted to

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take her to dinner on the night of her birthday

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one time, I believe it was her eighteenth birthday, and

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before he arrived to pick her up, he had seventeen

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roses delivered to the house. And it really impressed her

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mama that he had to wherewithal to do that, and

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it was expensive, but she was eighteen, not seventeen, and

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it was like oops, you know, But this wasn't a mistake.

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He knew exactly what he was doing because whenever he

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pulled up to get her, he had actually pulled one

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of those roses out and he gave it to her

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when he took her to dinner. So he had game.

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If you're slipping what I'm dripping here, the boy had game.

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Romance was his play, and Sherry was just completely smitten

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with it. So right after high school they moved in together,

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and by nineteen eighty two they were officially man and wife,

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and so they settled into that middle class beginner home

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that I mentioned, and they really just began their lives

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together and they were just down the street from Michael's parents,

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which is also a good thing. And within a year

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of getting married, she was pregnant, and soon after they

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would become the proud parents of two boys that would

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be pretty close in age. Sherry had loved babies and

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animals and kids her entire life, and everyone who knew

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her knew that her dream was really to be a mama.

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You asked some people, what do you want to do

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with your dream? You know, Oh, I want to travel,

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I want to go to Paris, I want to do this,

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I want to do that. She wanted to be a mama,

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she wanted to have her babies. And watching these dreams

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come true, all I can say again is it was

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a Taylor Swift moment and the song it was right

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in itself. It was going great. So Sherry was a homemaker,

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as was her dream, but that didn't mean that she

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wasn't pulling her weight. She was raising their babies, and

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while Mike held down a job at a pretty big

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grocery store, she would eventually open up an in home daycare. Now,

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from what I understand, this wasn't and on the books

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or probably really a legitimate business, but she cared for

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people's children, just as she would care for her own

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with love and with protection, so as words spread with

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the help of mine, even telling customers at the grocery store.

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She soon had kids to care for and was bringing

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in money and contributing to the family in that way

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as well. And by nineteen ninety six, Mike was now

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a manager at the grocery store. The name of the

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store was Vonn's and I believe that he was a

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deli manager is what he was. Over and both Mike

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and Sherry each had their daily routines. Very settled into

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their life, and Sherry had made friends with a neighbor.

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This woman's name was Debbie English. They had become good

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friends because their kids were starting to play together. They

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were about the same age, and then Debbie also started

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watching kids at her house, so they had a lot

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in common. That said, she and Sherry pretty much knew

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each other's schedules. They spoke often, often helping each other

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and sometimes just being a voice, a friend, you know,

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a voice, a shoulder to lean on, and someone that

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she could rely on. So on May sixth, nineteen ninety six,

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Debbie was shocked to receive a phone call that Cherry

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never showed up to pick up her two young sons

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from school. Sherry was an absolutely devoted mother to her children,

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and this was something that she would never do without question.

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She would never just not show up for her kids,

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at least not on purpose. Maybe she got a flat,

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maybe she got sick, hell, maybe she lost track of

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time or something like that, but she was certainly not

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actually gone. She would never just up and leave. And

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Debbie knew something. She knew that it was a Monday,

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and on Monday, Scherry was supposed to swing by a

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target to run errands. The errand, by the way, it

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included purchasing a Mother's Day gift for Sherry's own mama

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because it was coming up, but no one could get

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a hold of her. Mike wasn't gonna waste time either,

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so he called the local police to report her missing.

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Police kind of dismissed the idea though, that she was

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actually missing, and they told Mike, look, hang up, go

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ahead and make sure you check with all of her friends. Well,

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the police kind of dismiss this idea that she was

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actually missing, and they told Mike, look, why don't you

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go home and call all of her friends. Make sure

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you call all of her family members that y'all are

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close with and that you talk to and make sure

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that this isn't just some type of miscommunication. Maybe she

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ran an extra errand that you don't know about, or

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something like that. So Mike did as he was told.

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He called friends, and he also called her parents. Now,

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her parents happened to not be home, and this wasn't

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the day of cell phones and instant connectivity or anything

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of that nature, so they were not very quick to

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speak back with him. All he could do was leave

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a voicemail at the house and wait for his mother

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in law to call him back, because he wasn't going

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to get in his car and drive over there. He

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was going to just call back to the police. So

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Mom of Sherry didn't actually even get the message untilmost

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eight o'clock that night when she returned, so she was

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actually really slow to realize that there was even an issue.

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So Mike also he did his due diligence. He called

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the local hospitals, He called neighboring police departments. I think

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he even may have called the jails nearby to say

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do you have her? If not, have you gotten in

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any Jane does or someone that you can't identify, but

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nobody had any Jane does or his wife by name.

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That said police turned right back around, called the police

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and was like, okay, look, I've done what you asked

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me to do. Nobody has seen her or heard from her,

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the hospitals haven't. Nobody has and this is just not

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like her. I really think you should listen to me.

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And so this time police did take the report and

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they even added her to the list of briefings for

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shift change so that people could be on the lookout

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or officers rather could be on the lookout for her.

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And the obvious place for anyone to start looking for

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her was it Target, because that was the last known

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place that people thought she would be headed. So police

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went to the store and they reviewed cameras, which did

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in fact find her checking out. She was buying that

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very Mother's Day gift that she had said she was

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going to get. That was at nine to twenty two

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am that morning. So after this there was no record

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of her whereabouts. So that said investigators went on location

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while they were at Target and looked around, and they

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actually were able to locate her vehicle still at the store,

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but in the extensive search of the store proved she

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was not still there all these hours later. She drove

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a large fifteen passenger van that she used to tote

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around all the kids that she watched after school, and

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so this made it very easy to find too. The

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van was a tan or like a cream color, and

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it had this large blue gray stripe running down the

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side of it. A very obvious vehicle to pick out.

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So whatever had happened to her must have happened after

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nine twenty two am and before she put the vehicle

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into drive to leave, and this was believed because a

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search of the vehicle showed that all of the doors

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were unlocked. The gift that she had bought in side

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the target was left right inside of the van, and

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the key was actually in the ignition. So, as is common,

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the spouse is going to be looked at closely for

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any possible motive to disappear their wife. But Mike was upset,

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and the officer who interviewed him at his house actually

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knew the couple because he went to high school with them,

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and this gave some good rapport between the two. Mike

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didn't really have anything to say though that was out

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of line or a red flag, and he even allowed

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that detective to look around him his home and check

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and see for anything. The detective said, look, the house

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is in good condition. There's no evidence of a fight

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or anything of that nature. It was clean and orderly.

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When asked if they had any marital problems, Mike said,

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nothing beyond the normal husband and wife relationship. Sure, we bicker,

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sometimes we argue, but we make up and we move on. Certainly,

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nothing had happened to warrant her, just up and leaving.

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And in terms of an alibi, Mike's was solid. He

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had been at work that day all day and this

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was verified by not only the boss, but the coworkers

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and everybody in their Mama Mike was at work. So

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during the morning discussion of cases and things of that nature,

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the lead detective who initially spoke to Mike was approached

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by another female detective who said she may have some information.

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It turned out that female detective's sister was at the

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very same target at the same time as Sherry, and

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the sister said that she saw Sherry outside leaving the target,

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but the thing was it wasn't actually her driving off

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and leaving. She said that when she was in the

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parking lot, she saw Sherry getting arrested like handcuffs arrested. Now,

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this was almost laughable, off the top, completely and totally laughable.

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Cherry was never in trouble, She was not even someone

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known to the police. She didn't have a record, nothing

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that would indicate that Cherry was the woman that was

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actually getting arrested. But maybe it was mistaken identity, you know. Again,

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they had found her van and she was gone so

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for a moment in time that that could actually explain things,

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because this was so odd. Maybe a police officer mistakenly

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identified Cherry as someone else and had arrested them under

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that name, but detectives didn't find that to be the case.

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They also searched for any known warrants for Sherry and

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that maybe the arrest was warranted for this, but they

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found none, nor was she on any other police agency's

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custody list anywhere. But the thing was this, as detectives

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asked around other people, they also said that they saw

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a woman matching Sherry's description being arrested as well. So

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now multiple people confirmed what definitely was pretty much unbelievable,

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and so it kind of seemed like there may be

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some legitimacy to this Basically, all of the witnesses agreed

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that the officer that was doing the arresting was a female.

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She was in a tan suit, she had blonde hair,

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and was in what appeared to be an unmarked unit,

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and the vehicle was believed to be unmarked because it

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was not a traditional police unit. It was described as

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a Teal Nissan Altima. The officer, based on all of

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these witnesses, had pulled up and that officer briefly spoke

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with Sherry before she turned around, placed her hands behind

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her back and was cuffed. The officer even walked she

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to the back of the vehicle, opened the door. She

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even covered her head so that Sherry wouldn't bump it

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whenever she was getting into the back seat. The color, however,

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of the unmarked unit just really bothered the detectives and

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Teal just seems like a really odd color for an

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unmarked unit. But continuing on with the investigation, more questions

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were going to be asked of Michael. When the original

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missing person's report was made that phone call that he

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originally made, Michael was asked all the traditional questions, what

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does she look like when it was the last time

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you saw her? Etc. But Michael was also asked did

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Sherry have any medical issues? He said none. Does she

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have any no mental issues? He said none. He matter

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of fact added, she doesn't have anything wrong with her.

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There was nothing wrong, and he said all that would

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stand out was her beautiful blue eyes, that there's nothing

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going on here. Asked do you have any marital issues?

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He said no. So what he had initially told investigators

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and what he initially said on the call in it

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seemed like it was lining up. But when the investigators,

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now actively involved in this case, started asking more in

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depth questions in person, Michael realized that this was a

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little bit more serious, and so he decided to spill

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his guts and he admitted, well, okay, look, I do

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have a girlfriend. In all honesty, it was not expected

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that he would have a girlfriend, but Mike really wanted

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to clear the air, and I guess he wanted to

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do this pretty quickly because, you know, this was seeming

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to become a very big issue and lying to the

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police was not going to turn out well for him.

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And he knew that because the thing was he kind

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of had been having this affair in a very less

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than discreet way. Everyone at the supermarket knew that Mike

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was messing around with another worker. And this woman's name

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was Diana Hahn. So she was a cute woman too,

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very small, soft spoken, kind of meek. She was a

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former model, which was kind of interesting, and she did

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aspire at one point to be an actress, but her

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best role she ever got was being an extra in

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a movie once, and you couldn't even see her face.

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So I guess everyone dreams of being an actress, and

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she was no different in that it just didn't pan

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out for her. She had lived with her mom and

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now I guess her main role was being the catch

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of the supermarket deli. So it wasn't like this woman

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was of a high power person or someone that people

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recognized out there. But everyone who worked at the supermarket

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knew that the two were messing around. That affair had

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started with small talk, but the couple quickly realized I

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hate to even say the couple, but the two of

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them quickly realized that they had a whole lot in common.

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And there was probably only one real red flag for

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me personally, and that was that she did tell him

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that she dabbled in witchcraft. But when they checked up

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on her. She had no criminal record, she had nothing

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of that nature. It wasn't like she was some you know,

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thug out on the streets, slang in deli meat or

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something that affairs. Small talk also revealed that they both

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had mothers from Japan, and they both had fathers that

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were in the military. So once that affair began and

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they found all these commonalities and these interests in one another,

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it really went full throttle, and everybody and their mama

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knew it. But I do have to say this, being

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a cheating spouse does not equal will murder. We all

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know this. We are true crime fans, people interested in

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true crime. We've heard that a million times. So detectives

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we're going to still have to dig into this because

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we know that the spouses are always going to be

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looked at first, so detectives in their research would find

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out it's kind of interesting. But Sherry knew about Diana.

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This wasn't a complete secret. She had even been consoled

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by her close friends because she had opened up to

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them saying how hurt she was that this was happening

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in her to her, and she even told one of

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her neighbors. She said, you know, one day I just

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may up and leave and not come back. I'll just

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do it for a little while because I want Mike

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to know what it feels like to be abandoned. I'm

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his wife, I'm the mother of his children, and he's

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just treating me like I don't matter. But I don't

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want you to think for a second while i'm telling

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you this story that Sherry was just a doormat. No, ma'am,

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do not get this twisted. Sherry was a feisty thing.

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She was a go getter, and she was someone that

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could have taken Diana on if she really wanted to smoke. Okay,

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if the opportunity were to arise. Sherry wasn't going to

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cower to this, and so friends, in talking to her

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were even saying things to her, and it kind of

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made me laugh a little bit because my friends tell

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me this. But her friends were like, girl, we don't

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want you to go to jail either behind this, you know,

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just because this woman's interfere and we don't want to

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see you get messed up over this. But their fears

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were warranted because Cherry had gotten winned that not only

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did Diana want her husband, but she also wanted to

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just be a mama with him, and like kind of

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wanted to be around her children, and that my friends,

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wasn't gonna happen, no frickin' way. So Sherry took the

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opportunity to address Diana directly, and she basically said, you

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will not be destroying my family without a fight. The

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line in the sand was clearly drawn. So this was

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a little bit different than I think most of the

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affair stories that have been spoken about in terms of

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true crime. Sherry knew, and Sherry wasn't playing around. That

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was her husband and she would defend her family with

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everything she had. What was Sherry's position on this, Okay, Basically,

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she felt like Diana had come on to Mike and

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because they you know, every couple argues from time to time,

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because they had had some weaknesses and arguments that this

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Diana woman was basically a whore and that she had

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honed in on Mike and inserted herself into their marriage.

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But it wasn't quite Mike's fault in her. She loved

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her husband. It just that it just happened to be

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a circumstance and he had weakness. So her opinion was

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that basically, if this Diana woman would go away, then

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they could mend their marriage and these family troubles could

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be could be fixed. But the thing was, Diana had

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her nails deep into Mike and this had become pretty

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much an uphill battle for Sherry. So detectives flat out

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were less than impressed by the infidelity of Mike. But

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they still had to be keeping their eyes on the

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prize and be searching for Sherry, and this would include

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wanting to speak with that other woman, Diana Hahn. But

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when detectives asked Mike what was her last name, because

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he just said he was having an affair with a

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woman named Diana, he said, you know, I actually don't

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really know. I don't know what her last name is.

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It kind of made me go, wow, you must really

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care about this woman you only know her first name.

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But I digress. So they said, okay, well, where does

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she live? You're having this affair openly, where does she live?

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We really want to go talk to her, and he said,

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I actually don't know that either, but he was more

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than willing to give them her cell phone number, which

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he did. Now, detectives may have not had Diana's last name,

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but y'all they didn't get their shields from watching paint dry. Obviously,

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they knew how to do their job, and so they

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could find people. And Diana's not only her last name,

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but her address was quickly located. So they took a

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drive to her house to go have a word with her.

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And amazingly, y'all, listen, I'm a woman of faith. Miracles happen.

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Don't ever think they don't. And amazingly a miracle happened

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when they drove up to Diana Hawn's house. No, they

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didn't find Sherry, but Mike. He must have been doing

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his detective work as well, because when the officers pulled up,

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he was there. Wow, what a change. Mike found out

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where his lover lived. How awesome was this? What are

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the chances of the cops and Mike finding where she

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lives at the same time. What a kuwinky dink? What

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a miracle? Said? No one ever? Right, if you're following

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with me. His van was in the driveway, and so

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the officers kind of look at each other like wow, Okay,

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they get out and they go knock on the door,

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but no one would answer it, so they left. I'm

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just kidding, y'all. Okay, these are real cops. They didn't leave.

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They actually then used the other numbers that they had found,

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which was including a home number, and they started blowing

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that phone up until finally someone answered, and it was Diana,

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and the police basically said, hey, it would be in

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your best interest to come answer this front door. So

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just moments later, the door was unlocked and the door

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opened and there stood Diana in Well, let me ask

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you this before I tell you. If the police called

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you and said, ma'am, we need to speak with you,

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and you went to the door early in the morning,

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what would you be wearing? Because I asked myselfself, what

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would you do? And I would have quickly thrown on

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a brawl and some clothes and ran to the door.

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I probably wouldn't even brush my teeth because I'd have

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been scared of why they were there. But that's what

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I would have done. But not Diana. When she opened

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the door, she was wearing a very short, very skimpy

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piece of black lingerie. Hey, I guess if you got it,

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flawn it. But detectives were almost shooketh by this behavior.

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It seemed very out of place, and it especially was

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odd when Mike came walking out of the bedroom in

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nothing but his boxers. So this man went from not

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knowing her last name or where she lived to being

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in nothing but as skivvies in the house the next day. Hmm.

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So it was obviously time to have a chat, and

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everybody took a ride down to the police station. Now,

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Diana was given a notepad and she was asked to

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list everything that she did on the specific day that

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Sherry had gone missing, and she complied. She listed everything

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out that she did that day, everything down to the

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moment that she busted her ass during a bike ride.

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So while all of this is happening, the questions are

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being asked, detectives are kind of trying to figure out

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what's really going on here and if she knows anything

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about this. The media was now actively pushing this story

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out that a missing mother of two is is we

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can't find her and oh my god, these children were

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picked up from school and so it's all over the

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television and it really had people stirring what was going

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on here was just not normal. And this included a

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co worker of Mike and Diana, and that coworker decided

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to make a phone call and speak to police and

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she says, look, I don't know if this is anything,

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but this woman that is missing. The day after that

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woman is now being reported missing, I was at work

460
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:36.279
and my coworker Diana, showed up and her face was

461
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.200
actually really red and she looked like she may have

462
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:41.640
been in a fight, like she had been scratched in

463
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.279
a fight or something. But the interrogators are with her,

464
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.599
you know, and they're looking at her in this interrogation room,

465
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.680
and she doesn't look like what this woman is describing.

466
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.279
But the interrogator, the detective, was looking at her, and

467
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.440
he did notice that she did have bangs, okay, some

468
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.160
pretty heavy bangs, and that they were swooping to one side.

469
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:05.880
Now that's a pretty common thing these days, right Your

470
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:08.279
banks kind of swooped off to the side. So the

471
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.640
detective says, look, go ahead and pull your banks back

472
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.559
for me. Do you mind just pulling them completely back

473
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:16.680
and let me see your forehead? And she was like, okay,

474
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.480
and she pulled back her banks, and sure as shit,

475
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.759
there was a little gash. It wasn't huge, but there

476
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.440
was a little gash on her forehead. So when she

477
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:28.240
was asked, you know, what is what's that about what's

478
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:30.759
that little scratch on your forehead about? She said it

479
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.440
was from that bike crash. I just told you I

480
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.599
busted my ass on that bike. These men were driving

481
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.039
down the road. They swerved. I don't know if they

482
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:41.039
thought it was funny or what, but they ran me

483
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.519
off the road and I crashed the bike. I already

484
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.839
told you this. But if that was the case, why

485
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.480
weren't there other injuries? And that was something that stuck

486
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.599
out to them. If you crashed your bike hard enough

487
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:56.319
that you spill off on the side of the road,

488
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.720
I mean, think about it, your wrists, your elbows, you

489
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.240
would assume there would be scrapes. Even maybe on the

490
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.759
side of the leg where you wiped out, like that

491
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:06.920
side that slid on the gravel or the dirt or whatever,

492
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.799
you would have a scratch. But she had nothing. When

493
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.920
they looked her over. She only had that gash on

494
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.920
her forehead. So on it seemed kind of odd that

495
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.599
you would get in a wreck like that and swan

496
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:21.920
dive straight to your forehead and hit the ground and

497
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.519
nothing else. But she had said she was in a

498
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:28.200
bike crash. So they did take pictures of this to

499
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:32.079
document it, and then they released her for the evening.

500
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:35.319
Mike happily picked up his lover with no problems and

501
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:39.440
drove her home. The reality was this. We can sit

502
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.680
here and say, oh, man, where there's smoke, there's fire,

503
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:46.359
but there wasn't anything to hold her on. The woman

504
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:50.480
that the cops, or the woman that was a cop

505
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.759
that people had seen arresting Sherry, was also a white

506
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.000
woman with blonde hair, and if you looked at Diana Hahn,

507
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:01.000
it's very clear that she was a brunette and that

508
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:04.319
she was part Asian. Also, she drove a different car

509
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.480
than that teal Ultima that everybody saw the arresting cop

510
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:14.640
arrest Sheririan. So while Mike is shitty husband of the

511
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:20.720
Year of the Universe, he would still be out there

512
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.920
looking for his missing wife. Okay. He brought the kids

513
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.359
to pass out flyers to look for their mama. They

514
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.160
even went to the target where she was last seen

515
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:36.480
handing out flyers. Jim, did you see what happened in

516
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:37.200
Texas today?

517
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.920
Wait before you tell me that, let me tell you

518
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.160
what happened in New York.

519
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:43.119
It cannot be as crazy as the case I told

520
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:44.720
you about yesterday in Louisiana.

521
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.920
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522
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524
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528
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529
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.480
He was also willing to speak with the media, as

530
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.559
were the kids. They were trying to be active in

531
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.680
looking for their mama and he was helping. Now I'm

532
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.640
not saying he was a great husband, but he was

533
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:31.559
helping to look for her. Her parents, though her parents

534
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:35.119
were no fools during all of this, and her mama,

535
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:39.599
her mama's name was Carleen. Miss Carlen was obviously very

536
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.440
hopeful that her daughter was going to be found alive,

537
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:46.640
but her mind knew something that her heart simply just

538
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:53.160
would not allow. Mother's Day passed and Sherry never called her.

539
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.519
The following Monday after Mother's Day was Miss Carlene's birthday,

540
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:03.599
and Sherry didn't call that day either. Her daughter, if anything,

541
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.359
would not miss talking to her own mama on these

542
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:13.240
two very specific days, and more than that, she would

543
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.119
never have left her boys. So Miss Carlene in her

544
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.680
heart knew Sherry wasn't likely coming back home, but she

545
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.559
wasn't gonna let that take her over. She was going

546
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.920
to continue to search for her daughter. So detectives by

547
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.160
now knew that the woman or they believed at this

548
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:37.480
point that the woman who handcuffed Sherry was probably not

549
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:41.200
a real cop. There was a couple of reasons. I mean, hell,

550
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.319
the car was Teal. Okay, let's start there. Cops back

551
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.799
then and even today, that for sure in that area,

552
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:52.480
they drove Crown Vicks. So that Teal car just stood

553
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:54.759
out to them and they couldn't shake it. And so

554
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.519
this made them wonder, what if that vehicle was actually

555
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:02.559
possibly a rental And so they went to go check

556
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:04.319
a bunch of the rental companies in the area to

557
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.160
see did they Basically they asked these questions, do you

558
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.960
have a Teal car? And if so, was it rented

559
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.240
for a week or so and specifically during the week

560
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:17.480
of May sixth, If that's the case, who rented it? Okay,

561
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.400
the obvious questions here. Now in the meantime, this struck

562
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.880
me as a just testament to a mother's love. Miss

563
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.160
Carlen only had a home phone line back in these

564
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.759
at this time in the nineties, and she was so

565
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.359
worried that her precious daughter may try to call her

566
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.440
that she could not stand the fact that what if

567
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.160
I'm on the phone and she's trying to get through

568
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.640
and I can't get through to her because there wasn't

569
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.000
called waiting or any of that either. She was so

570
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.759
dedicated to making sure there was always a chance for

571
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.400
her daughter to speak to her that the very next

572
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.920
day she had another phone line put into her home.

573
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:59.160
She wanted the number that her daughter knew by heart

574
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.480
to be an excit accessible line in the event that

575
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.240
she was able to get break free or whatever the

576
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:10.000
situation was, contact her. And those are little details that

577
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.840
I just can't overlook because as a mama, I know

578
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.480
what she's saying. There. There's no place I'll never be

579
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.000
so far that you can't contact me, and I'll never

580
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:25.119
cut off any way for you to be able to

581
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.840
find me. And so she told people, do not call

582
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.840
this number. This is only for Sherry. I have an

583
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.760
additional line, you call this one. She changed her whole

584
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.280
life around as far as communication went, so Sherry could

585
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.719
get to her, that's a mama. I don't care how

586
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:43.599
old you are, you never stop being a mama. So

587
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.360
one rental company back to this that was near the

588
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.360
airport did have a teal vehicle and they told the

589
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.280
detectives not only did we have one, but we did

590
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.800
rent one and we rented it that very week you're

591
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.880
asking about. So I know, it's kind of what we're

592
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.480
all wondering here. Did a Michael Dally rent that vehicle?

593
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.800
And when they looked at their records, they said, no,

594
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.840
it's not a Michael Dally that rented it. And matter

595
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.159
of fact, the person who rented it damaged it. The

596
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:16.719
rear view mirror was missing. We had to send it

597
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.639
off and have it replaced. And they had like stained

598
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:21.800
it up and just kind of mistreated this vehicle and

599
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:25.960
didn't treat it very well. Okay, well, not one to

600
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.599
ignore anything. The detective said, well, facts over the agreement anyway,

601
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.039
I'd like to look it over, and they said, no problem.

602
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:39.079
When that agreement was faxed over. It's almost comical. But

603
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.119
the car had been rented by none other than a

604
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:48.159
woman named Diana Hawn and she had rented it on

605
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:53.440
May fifth, just one day before Sherry went missing. And

606
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.880
I don't know that any of us are probably shocked

607
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.400
by this now that I'm telling you, but Diana haun

608
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.599
share as hell when she was brought back to the

609
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.039
station to discuss this. Diana, by the way, and I

610
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:07.440
don't mean to get caught up on the things that

611
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:08.679
she wears. I know some people are like, why do

612
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:10.800
you always focus on what they're wearing? Well, I want too,

613
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:16.119
damn it. And what she was wearing was interesting to

614
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:22.320
me because she showed up in a slinky, slinky, very

615
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:28.960
low cut, tight dress to speak with detectives. And I'm

616
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.199
no psychologist, and I don't ever claim to be, but

617
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:34.880
I will tell you this. When people are nervous or

618
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:39.519
worried or upset about something that maybe they're being questioned on,

619
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.639
just biologically, like physically, people will try to make themselves small,

620
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.360
like they might crunch up in a chair or cross

621
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.840
their chest, sit on their feet, things like that. But

622
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:50.639
one thing that we usually do when we want to

623
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.920
be comforted is maybe put on a sweatshirt or something.

624
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:56.639
And it feels protective of us, you know what I'm

625
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.360
talking about, Like if you're out of place, ladies, when

626
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.360
you're out of place, and you're going somewhere not normal.

627
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:03.679
It feels weird to not bring your person. Your purse

628
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.199
almost gives you safety and comfort, you know that, to

629
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:10.360
carry it with you. This woman shows up in a

630
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.559
sex pot outfit and the detective even commented on her look, saying, wow,

631
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.360
you have a unique look, and she was very flattered

632
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:21.639
by this. This was before they even started the questioning.

633
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:27.199
But after those little exchanges, he then took that signed

634
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.960
rental agreement and he turned it around and he wanted

635
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.880
answers for it. So you can come in here looking hot,

636
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:35.880
but you're going to be hot, and you got some

637
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:39.760
explaining to do. Lucy, what's going on with this? So

638
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.079
she leaned over and she looked at it, and she

639
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:46.000
read it. She paid attention to it, and then she

640
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.920
points to the signature on the rental agreement and she says,

641
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.519
you might want to look at this because that's my name,

642
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.599
but that is absolutely not my signature. Look at it,

643
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.320
and so he did. He even looked at it in

644
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.559
comparison to her license signature, and they weren't the same.

645
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.679
Truth be told. Detectives took a picture of Diana Hahn

646
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.000
brought it up to the rental company and said, is

647
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.360
this the woman that filled out that agreement? And they

648
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.760
couldn't id her as the person who had rented the

649
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.039
car either, So it was kind of like a HM moment.

650
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.480
But police had something else up their sleeves that I

651
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:31.519
don't know. She was expecting. Those stains that the car

652
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.599
when it was returned to the rental office. They said

653
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.400
that there were some stains in the carpeting. Well those

654
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.880
happened to be big ones, and it was on the

655
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.440
back seat on one side of the floorboard. And police

656
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:47.119
had gone and taken that vehicle and processed it for

657
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.440
any possible evidence, including that big stain that was on

658
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.880
the floor, and the preemptive test for that stain did

659
00:38:54.920 --> 00:39:00.000
come back positive for blood. Now I'm not a detector

660
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.079
of y'all, but I mean, Ray Charles could see that

661
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.719
this is obviously like they're going down to probably a

662
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:09.760
pretty solid path. The large stain I want to talk

663
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:14.159
about it. It was on the passenger side, back seat floorboard,

664
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:18.239
and it seemed to it was so much blood that

665
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:21.000
it seemed to be that someone was seated in the

666
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:25.599
seat but had slumped forward or was leaning forward and

667
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:29.920
they had been gravely injured or injured at least significantly,

668
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.880
and so it looked like blood maybe had poured out

669
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.000
of a nose or a mouth or something like that

670
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.280
because of the way that it was positioned on the floor.

671
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.599
So also in that testing, they sprayed luminol all over

672
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.800
the car and it lit up like a Christmas tree.

673
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.440
I mean, this car had been through some shit. When

674
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:50.480
it was gone for just that short amount of time,

675
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:55.760
blood was everywhere, literally from the headliner of the vehicle

676
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.840
all the way down to the handles and the floorboard

677
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:03.320
was blood everywhere. So it was clear that some type

678
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:06.360
of epic fight for life had taken place in that car.

679
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.920
But was it animal blood? Was it a person's blood?

680
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:12.280
All of this has to be hammered out. So detectives

681
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.360
went to Sherry's parents and got samples of their blood

682
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.280
to compare to this sample that was from the vehicle.

683
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.039
And they wanted, you know, you get half of your

684
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.280
DNA from your mother and half from your father, So

685
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:25.760
if you get both and you can at least identify

686
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:29.079
if the blood donor of the vehicle sample was from

687
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:34.119
these known people, and it was a match. It was

688
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.599
absolutely a match. It was now for certain that Sherry

689
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.159
had not only been in the back of that teal vehicle,

690
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.679
but she had been gravely injured and by the amount

691
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.679
of blood, it's very likely she was dead. There was

692
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.920
also blonde hair found in the back seat of that

693
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.280
same rental car, five blonde hairs to be specific. Sherry's

694
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.679
hair was blonde. What more does someone need to believe

695
00:40:58.039 --> 00:40:59.920
that she had to be in some type of more

696
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:05.400
danger and possibly still was. But that was until a

697
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:09.320
woman who saw Diane on the news or Diana on

698
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.360
the news called the police and said, hey, I think

699
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.639
I recognize her, because this was now big news. Days

700
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.599
were going by and this was not big news. And

701
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.840
when she called, she said, look, I think that that

702
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.280
woman has come into my place of business. I'd like

703
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:28.280
to talk to you. And the police say, okay, no problem,

704
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.440
we can come down, we can interview, interview you. Where

705
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.320
do we go and she gave the address and when

706
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:39.800
they pulled up, it was a wig shop. A wig shop,

707
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:44.519
so suddenly the bells and the whistles were chiming. Wouldn't

708
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.880
you know that that blonde hair that was in the

709
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:51.519
backseat of the vehicle would coincidentally come back as not

710
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:55.320
human on the lab report, and that had been strange.

711
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.639
They fully thought that was going to come back and

712
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.239
be Sherry's hair, but it wasn't. Well, now they ought

713
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.519
they knew why it was Diana Hahn. They believed, and

714
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:06.840
they believed that she was wearing a wig that day.

715
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.559
And yes, they confirmed the purchase she made was of

716
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:17.199
a blonde wig. So twenty five days later, on June

717
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:21.360
first of nineteen ninety six, Sherry's friends, who had not

718
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.320
stopped giving up hope that they would find her, they

719
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.639
had continued to look for her. They decided that they

720
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.360
were going to stop near this ravine in the area.

721
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.880
It was off Canada Lago Road, and they were going

722
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.519
to do a search there. It was a more remote

723
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.159
area and it had a road that wasn't accessed a

724
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:42.039
lot that went to it. When they got out, they

725
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.360
didn't search very long before one of her own friends,

726
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:50.280
Sherry's direct friends, found some sunglasses and she knew immediately

727
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.519
that they were Sherry's. That to me is so impressive.

728
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.719
I mean, hell, my friends shout out guys. I love y'all,

729
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.840
but I'm not convinced they know my stuff because I'm

730
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.480
always wearing the weirdest shit and you know they wouldn't know.

731
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.679
I guess if there was glitter and a trail of sparkle,

732
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.039
you'll know it was me. But she knew from the sunglasses,

733
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.440
and so I don't know if maybe she was like,

734
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.119
oh God, I don't want to go look. But they

735
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:19.679
sent some men down into that ravine from the search

736
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:24.079
team to go into this steep drop off and look.

737
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.119
And while they were down there, they said, hey, we

738
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.199
found something, and they pulled out a pair of black

739
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.159
shorts that still had the belt attached, and so they

740
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:38.320
passed them up, and sure enough, Sherry's friend was watching,

741
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:43.039
and she was torn between the hope that this would

742
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.559
end all of this unknown sickness of what had happened

743
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.760
to her, but also at the same time she didn't

744
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:49.559
want it to be her. Please just let this be

745
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.039
some clothing that someone discarded out of their window or something.

746
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.280
But when the shorts made it to her and she

747
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.119
got a good look at them, she knew that they

748
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.199
were her friend, Sherry's. Matter of fact, they were the

749
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:03.159
very same ones that Sherry is seen wearing in the

750
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:07.239
surveillance video at the target. So the call was made

751
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.360
to the police, we need you here now. We think

752
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.519
that we found her. When the police got there, they

753
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:18.599
did all of their searching, and eventually they recovered pieces

754
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.280
of the skeletal remains of what was believed to be

755
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.639
Sherry Dally where they had started down the ravine. They

756
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:33.239
no longer actually remained because police would eventually meticulously search

757
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:38.000
an area roughly thirty by thirty yards to find what

758
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:42.719
was left of Sherry. She was no longer intact, and

759
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:48.079
animals had scavenged her body parts as she was decomposing

760
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:51.840
nearly a month out in these open elements combined with

761
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.920
wild animals. She just simply was not in the same

762
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:58.199
condition that she had been when she was dumped nearly

763
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:02.440
a month before. And this body was found just three

764
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.280
miles from her abduction site, off of that remote road,

765
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.679
and the police would then eventually have to make the

766
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:13.760
call to her mama to break this news, and they

767
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.159
did it pretty late. They did it around five thirty

768
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:19.840
Saturday evening, but they had to make sure to get

769
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.400
that phone call in because they were very fearful that

770
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:25.679
this would hit the news and they did not want

771
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.039
her mama to find out that way, and they wanted

772
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:32.920
to do it personally, so they go share the news clearly,

773
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.960
the family was devastated that their nightmare was now confirmed.

774
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.920
I think they knew something bad had happened, but to

775
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:44.360
hear the words just really hits different. Cherry was dead

776
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:49.840
and she would not be coming home to her baby boys. So,

777
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.079
although Sherry's remains were now collected and at least could

778
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:56.360
be treated with dignity, they were far from being laid

779
00:45:56.360 --> 00:46:00.199
to rest because the forensic examination would need to take place.

780
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:04.679
So a forensic odontologist, his name was doctor Michael Bowers.

781
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.440
He compared the skull that was recovered to Sherry's dental

782
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.000
records and was able to confirm, yes, this is Sherry,

783
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.039
and then an autopsy was going to be done of

784
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.119
these remains, and the truth about what Sherry had endured

785
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:26.039
was uncovered. Even with the limited remains that they got.

786
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:32.079
Sherry had suffered a devastating attack that included a massive

787
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:37.519
beating and being stabbed multiple times in the chest. The

788
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.800
stab wounds, and I need you to understand this, they

789
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.239
were so horrific that the knife had left scrapes in

790
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:51.960
her rib bones that were recovered. A metal fragment was

791
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:56.159
still found embedded in her jaw, and so they put

792
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:58.599
this underneath a microscope to try to figure out what

793
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.000
it was, and when they got a real good look

794
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:04.400
under the microscope, they realized, oh my god, that is

795
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:08.960
the tip of the serrated knife blade that broke off

796
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.840
in her jaw during this attack. I mean this was vicious.

797
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.639
She was believed to have been stabbed at least eight times,

798
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:21.880
including a stab in the heart, but there was even more.

799
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:28.400
The medical examiner would write in the report that he

800
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:33.840
believed Sherry died very shortly after her abduction, but her

801
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:38.320
body was not just dumped as is, because based on

802
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:43.039
the wounds assessed of the skeletal remains in the neck area,

803
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:46.960
the medical examiner believed that the killer had tried to

804
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:53.360
behead her or may have beheaded her. She had multiple

805
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.480
fractures caused by blunt force trauma to the skull, to

806
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:01.159
her jaw, and the repeat he needed stab wounds to

807
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.800
the chest were determined and believed to be her ultimate

808
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.320
cause of death. That pool of blood in the back

809
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.760
seat proof that she expired and that she bled out

810
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.960
slumped over in the back seat of a rental car,

811
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.159
now believed to have likely have been handcuffed and unable

812
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.159
to effectively defend herself when she was attacked by this person.

813
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:30.920
This was pure animalistic rage that had rained down on

814
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:36.920
this handcuffed mother of two. So, like I told you,

815
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.000
Mike had a solid alibi. He was at work. This

816
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.159
was proven. He was stacking the shelves, he was stalking

817
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:48.840
them actually during the time that Sherry went missing. Diana, however,

818
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.960
she wasn't working that day, and so she did not

819
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:56.840
have a solid alibi where people saw her necessarily or

820
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:01.079
was on video. But looking at Diana, she was tiny,

821
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.119
and so it was kind of questionable whether she would

822
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:10.519
have been physically capable of this level of violence. And

823
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.440
Diana was still insisting that someone had forged her name,

824
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.719
that she was being set up. I mean, hell, everyone

825
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.519
knew they were having an affair. What if somebody else

826
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:24.039
who had beef did this and they're setting me up

827
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.199
because they know that we're having an affair. I mean,

828
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:33.320
it was something to be considered. So Jack Harris, that

829
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.280
was the man's name. He was a forensic document examiner

830
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:40.719
and he specialized in handwriting. He was sent this document

831
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.039
and basically, this is the deal. If someone is forging

832
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.239
a document, usually what that person's trying to do is

833
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.719
to duplicate the name as closely as possible, so they

834
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.480
might they've got to have a known handwriting sample that

835
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.000
they're trying to copy. And so when someone's doing this,

836
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.519
and if you took a pen right now someone that

837
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.639
you're with, have them sign their name, and then you

838
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:06.079
go and you try to copy that while looking at it, okay,

839
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.760
And what people do is they'll start writing and then

840
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:12.599
the ink will stop at points while they're slowly writing

841
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:16.480
because they're trying to copy or forge what they're looking at.

842
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.360
And so there's this back and forth comparison of the

843
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.000
known signature while you're trying to copy it. I hope

844
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:26.159
I made that explanation. Well, the signature that was in

845
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:32.119
question was very different from Diana's known signature. It was

846
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:36.679
certainly not a forged signature, but maybe it could have

847
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:41.719
been a fake signature. So follow me out looking at

848
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:48.119
Diana's non handwriting and looking at this signature. They didn't

849
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:50.400
match in any way, shape or form. There was nothing

850
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:55.079
similar about them. But that wasn't where this document examiner stopped.

851
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:59.280
He went and he got known signatures from Diana, but

852
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.719
from the last ten years. Because if there's anything we

853
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.840
all know your handwriting changes, mine will change based on

854
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.760
the pen that I'm using. Some days I look like

855
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.840
there's something wrong with me, and then other days if

856
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:14.480
I have a pen, I have some favorite pins that

857
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.800
I use. It's nice and bubbly and it's easy to read. Also,

858
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:21.880
throughout time, our signatures will change. From when you're in

859
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.199
your twenties till you're in your forties, people change up

860
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.480
the way that they sign So while he was looking

861
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:32.320
at these prior signatures, he felt like those were very

862
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.800
similar to this signature on the rental agreement, so maybe

863
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.719
not a current one, but old ones. And what stood

864
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.679
out to him was that she would sign her name

865
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.840
like Diana or the han, and then at the end

866
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.280
of the end of han, she would go straight out

867
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.719
with the pen. There was this extension off to the

868
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:56.679
end of the pen. Well, this was the same thing

869
00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.280
and in the same manner on this signature that did

870
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:02.960
not map her current signature. And after looking over this,

871
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:08.639
it was his professional opinion it was Diana Hahn's signature,

872
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.679
but it was just a variance of how she used

873
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:16.519
to sign. So it was also interesting to know that

874
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:22.960
whomever had bought the blonde wig had paid with a check,

875
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.920
which is almost again comical in today's society. But this

876
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:32.559
person paid with a check. And when they took Diana

877
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:36.400
Hahn's check register where she had documented all of her expenditures,

878
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:41.039
more checks had been written about the same time, and

879
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:44.519
these were all written by Diana, no doubt. And it

880
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:47.239
kind of revealed where she had been leading up to

881
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.800
this disappearance, and it included not only that wig shop,

882
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:54.679
but also some other stores like a hardware store and

883
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:59.159
another department store. And what did she purchase with those checks?

884
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:03.599
Detectives and followed up and got records of those purchases. Well,

885
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:07.400
she had purchased an axe, not a big axe, a

886
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:15.159
little many like camping acts, sunglasses, lighter fluid matches, things

887
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.679
that I guess we all might purchase, but very suss

888
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:23.119
considering the situation at hand. Another oddity I guess you

889
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:27.000
could call it, was that she used green ink in

890
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.239
her checkbook register as well as whenever she was signing

891
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.159
some of those checks. Green ink. That's just not a

892
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:38.559
very common color of ink. So police now had her back,

893
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.679
I'm going to say, in custody, but at the station

894
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.760
to do some more questioning. And at this point they're

895
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:48.760
looking at her and being pretty upfront. They're like, look, lady,

896
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.079
you're kind of screwed here. You need to come clean.

897
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.360
And there's a lot here that we can pretty much prove,

898
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.599
but you've got to give the information to us. You're

899
00:53:57.679 --> 00:53:59.480
gonna be the one that takes the fall for this.

900
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.440
Don't quote question it. It's whether you try to save

901
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:06.360
yourself or not. And Mike, Mike had a wife and

902
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:10.719
Mike had a lover, and Mike was going kind of

903
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:13.599
between y'all. It looks like, so how much did he

904
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:15.800
really care about you? Han? And they kind of took

905
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:20.360
that angle, but she wouldn't budge. She was very, very

906
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.920
soft spoken. She looked up and was like, I would

907
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:27.440
help you if I knew, but I don't know anything.

908
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:31.400
I can't give you something I don't have. But they

909
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:33.880
felt like the more that they were digging in that

910
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:40.360
maybe she would possibly be breaking. So they're filling out

911
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:42.159
paperwork and they tell her, all right, well, i'll just

912
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:46.440
tell you this. You're not leaving today. You are under arrest. Well,

913
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:50.079
as they're filling out the paperwork of her arrest, Mike

914
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:53.039
happened to be in the adjoining interrogation room and he

915
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:56.679
was talking at a level that she hurt him. And

916
00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:58.800
this is on the video of the interrogation. Okay, she

917
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:00.760
kind of perks up in the entiregate room and looks

918
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:03.320
at the detective filling out the paperwork, and she sayss

919
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:08.519
Mike here. He says, yes. She said, he's right here,

920
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.920
he's right next to us. Yes, And the detective looks

921
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.360
up and says, would you like to talk to him? Yeah? Yeah,

922
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:18.159
I would like to talk to him, please, And so,

923
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:22.880
making kind of a an audible here, they decide that,

924
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:24.639
all right, we'll let him come in and talk to you,

925
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:26.920
no problem, And so they all exit the room, or

926
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:30.480
he exits the room, and they let Mike in because

927
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:32.599
the thought here was, hey, maybe the two of them

928
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:37.239
together will start talking and we'll give up something incriminating.

929
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.039
So they let him in, and the detectives were watching

930
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:45.360
from another room the live feed of that camera. And

931
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.719
I'm gonna tell you this, regardless of what the detectives saw,

932
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:52.920
I'm me tell you what I saw because I'm looking

933
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:58.000
at a man whose wife and mother of his children

934
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:03.119
is missing. She's been gone for almost a month at

935
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:08.159
this point, and what I watch in his behavior is

936
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:15.280
absolutely repulsing to me. He comes in and he sits

937
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:19.039
down and he gets knee to knee with his mistress.

938
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:21.679
They're right up on top of each other. She kind

939
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:24.159
of leans in and hooks one of her arms around him,

940
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.280
and he strokes her hair. He pulls her bangs back

941
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.840
and he says, I don't think you did this. I

942
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.880
believe you. I don't think that you did this. She goes,

943
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:38.119
I didn't do it. So tender and a tender moment,

944
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.159
and they start whispering these almost sweet nothings to one another,

945
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:48.239
including if you listen very closely, she whispers, I think

946
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:52.840
I'm gonna go to jail. Y'all. It's almost like a

947
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.119
down daytime soap opera your grandmama watched when you were young.

948
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:01.480
And the passion is cringey. It's gross you you don't

949
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:04.320
want to see it, and it would be funny if

950
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:08.000
it weren't such a serious situation. It's so gross ill.

951
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.079
It's like watching teenagers make out in a hallway. Nobody

952
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:15.880
wants to see that shit. But they put on this,

953
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:21.199
this love story right in front of the camera. It's

954
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:26.519
unbelievable what you see, so based on everything so far,

955
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:30.320
and they discuss what's going on. He believes she didn't

956
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:33.440
do it, and she didn't do it, and then he

957
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:36.920
walks out. The detective comes in, and she seems re

958
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:41.719
energized in her statements that she didn't do it. But

959
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.559
the police officers don't care at this point. They feel like,

960
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.519
based on what we know so far, you're a problem.

961
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.880
And so they affect the arrest on Diane Hahn, but

962
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.119
they still had work to do if they were ever

963
00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:03.000
going to ensure a conviction. While they're arresting her, they

964
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:06.360
search her purse incidental to that arrest. Matter of fact,

965
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.800
when they take it from her, she goes, oh, well,

966
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:11.079
is this under warrant searched too? And he says, well,

967
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:14.079
it is now because you're under arrest. And when they're

968
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.480
going through and they're documenting the things in her purse,

969
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:23.679
guess what they find? A green pen. A green pen.

970
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:29.800
They went as far as to send that very pen

971
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:33.639
to an ink comparison specialist. I didn't even know that

972
00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:35.719
was a real thing. I will show my ignorance here.

973
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.280
I didn't even know that was a real thing. And

974
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.760
I won't bore you with this, but I will tell

975
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:42.800
you that they were able to find through this specialist

976
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:46.800
that the ink from the very pen taken from this

977
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:52.280
woman's purse came from the exact same batch of ink

978
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:57.119
that was used to sign those checks on those purchases.

979
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:03.280
Now we are getting somewhere at least proof that she

980
00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:08.599
had purchased these items, but it wasn't definite proof of

981
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:15.920
murder because killing her. Proving she killed her, now that's

982
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:20.920
gonna take more time. And honey, the next episode will

983
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.960
complete this saga, and I am telling you it is

984
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:30.480
worth the weight. Do you think you know about toxic relationships?

985
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:34.119
You may, but hang on, baby, because I'm about to

986
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:37.159
introduce you to toxic relationships. Evil Twin