SERIAL MURDERER: Israel Keyes Part 4

0:06 Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering how is this even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all, it's kJ here, back for a not other episode of Unspeakable.

1:01 But are you shook us? Because this is two in one week? What is going on here? This just must be an accident the hell it is? No, I decided, I said, no, I'm not gonna make them wait another week. I'm wrapping this up in the same week, So Tuda, you're getting two in one week. So this is going to be part four and the finale of the Israel Keys series. So if you haven't listened to one through three, make sure you stop right now, go back and listen so that you're not completely confuzzled on what is going to be going on today? Also, are y'all listening to Crime War Weekly. That's our new show that Jem and I are doing, and it's going to be true crime headlines that are happening all over the US as well as sometimes abroad. So go look down in the description.

1:43 It's linked in the description. You can go follow that show and then you can get another episode each week and you can listen to stuff that's happening currently as well. So don't forget that. Now, let's jump in and let's get this thing finished. So far, we have identified three victims that Israel keys had for certain murdered, Samantha Koenig, Bill Currier, and Lorraine Courier. But as I mentioned, these victims, all three of them were all from the previous year that he was doing this confessing. But Israel had specifically stated he had been a different man for fourteen years. So the interviews continued, and what made this case now extraordinarily difficult to work with was the sheer number of people listed as missing or found murdered, combined with Israel's extensive travel habits. While there were three confirmed victims, Israel would eventually confess to a total of eleven murders, which meant, Look, I'm not good at math, but I can subtract three from eleven and that's going to give me eight people that are unaccounted for. Eight families without any information on their loved one's disappearance or possible murder. Eight families out there, probably frustrated, heartbroken, and just left in the dark of unknowns. Police, as well as most of us, want answers who were they?

3:04 I mean, this is the least this guy could do, considering everything that he was now admitting to. And something rather frustrating while listening to his confessions was that he continued to hold information as a bargaining chip. There was no doubt if you listen to these there is no doubt he wanted the credit for these people's deaths, but he wanted to control the narrative before sharing any further information. And what do I mean by this, I'm gonna summarize. I'm gonna summarize it all up for you because the FBI tapes, I'm gonna tell you now, the FBI portions, the ones that they released were excruciatingly boring. Okay, I mean, I'm not even gonna play the audio because it was excruciatingly boring, but basically, before he confessed, he wanted insurance from the FEDS that the details of his crimes weren't made public. And this was so incredible. It's like, what do you mean You're gonna tell us but you don't want this to become public. All these victims are known to be victims. People know their loved ones are missing, people know that horrible things happen to them. What do you mean you want us to keep it from the public.

4:15 So oftentimes, when horrible people plead guilty at the last minute to cases they know will make headlines, it's not for the victims. And I hope that you will recognize that. If you didn't before, maybe from this point forward recognize it. When they wait until the very last minute, it's not for the victims. It's for their own ego. That is why they do it. They don't want the people that they care about to know who they really are and really were when they committed these crimes. Israel was willing to talk, but only if the information wasn't released to the public, and so they continue to play this cat and mouse game for months, trying to pry the name of eight more people out of his mouth, and Israel knew he held the power of information, but the police continued to interview him and share bits of information with him in hopes that he would spill more as well. So, for example, during one session, an investigator advised him that some testing had been done on one of his kill kits, and it came back that they actually did have his print, specifically a perfect right thumb print, and he says, yeah, right, and he like laughs condescendingly, okay, sure whenever they told him this, but when investigators were like, no, man, really really, he kind of cocks back in a seat and he goes, wow,

5:45 I'm impressed. Well, disappointed in myself, but still impressed. That's how he looked at this. So he knew that he was quote unquote good because he had gotten away with so many, But now the pressure was on. Could police identify him in the other killings before he gave up more information or confessed, because that would certainly strip him of his power or of his bargaining chip. So eventually he did give some information for the FBI to work with and some timeframes, but not everything. So here's what all was extracted overall, in location and date order according to Israel. But it's going to take us back to Oregon.

6:31 And in the years nineteen ninety seven or nineteen ninety eight, it wasn't one hundred percent clear, but he admitted that he really started all of this massive crime spree with a rape. He admitted to sexually assaulting a teenage girl on the Dushutz River near Bend, Organ, And he did speak in some detail about his own feelings of that incident, which started with this abduction of that young girl. In his teenage years, I want to tell you a little bit about Israel. He renounced the Christian faith and he began to dabble in Satanism, and part of that satanism included planning a Satanic ritual that would be a killing that would involve a young woman. So at that time, he was working near a popular tubing site, you know where people jump in their inner tubes and they float down the river and drink a beer or whatever and enjoy the warm sun and the water. Well, this happened to be prime hunting grounds, and one day he stood on that very beach along the river and was watching as people floated by, and eventually he waded out into the water and he grabbed a girl who happened to be the last girl in her group of tubers. He said that she was between the ages of fourteen and eighteen, if he had to guess, and that she had sandy blonde hair. So he grabs her and he pulled her ashore, and at that point he grabbed hold of her and

8:01 he drug her into a remote campground bathroom. Now, he mentioned that he was really struck by this kidnapping, specifically because he said he could tell that she was scared, but she kept talking to him and about random things. She kept saying things like, look, I'm not gonna tell anybody, I won't tell anybody, amongst all the other like random things that she was saying. So he was just kind of struck she was talking to me, Well, yeah, Israel, maybe she was so scared that she was trying to keep him calm, or maybe to keep herself calm, or something to make her humanized, to make her just a girl, that maybe he wouldn't want to hurt her. But once he got her in that bathroom, he tied her up with ropes and he viciously raped the young lady. And once he was satisfied. He planned originally to strangle her to death, and then he was gonna dump her in what he called a toy will pit because he figured no one would be looking there for a long while.

9:03 Hopefully she would decompose and any DNA evidence would be gone by that point. And he was also prepared with knives that he was going to use in his satanic killing ritual. But for some reason, even he didn't know why, he decided to let her go. He didn't commit the ritual, he didn't kill her, and afterwards, when he was reviewing what he had done, he decided she would be the only person that he would ever let go again. So who is she? Israel? We're all wondering. I know you're wondering. I was wanting to tell us who is it? Well, he kept the name again a bargaining chip. Someone's daughter was either holding the rape unmentioned or he didn't really let her go. That's really what we're left to decide.

9:56 The truth was yet to be revealed. I can tell you this per the FBI database, which you know. I went there and I looked at it because that's who I am as a person. I want to go look myself I pulled up rapes in Oregon between nineteen eight, ninety eight and nineteen ninety nine, and the rapes mentioned to police in that data set was absolutely zero. Now, in true transparency, the stats on the site were also zero up until twenty thirteen, so I doubt that that's accurate. But this could have been data on reported rapes. We should know, or if you don't know, I'll teach you this. A lot of rapes do not go mentioned to police.

10:38 They don't even know about it, and that's scary when you look at the numbers of that are reported in current times, most of them go unreported. So after this Israel joined the army, which was confirmed, and it made sense too, because according to his timeline, he didn't attack anyone for three more years after this girl was savagely raped. And if he was in the military, which was confirmed, obviously, we know why it made sense. He had taken a high school equivalency test and joined the army, and the reasoning behind that was because he was intrigued by the idea of learning survival skills to live off the land, to go undetected. Hmm. I wonder why now, while I was in the army, he was able to make friends with other soldiers, and drinking became a common pastime. I wouldn't say that that's uncommon. You know, you're trying to make friends with people that you may go to battle with, and drinking helps to relax the situation and take off the edge. But at one point during his army time, he was stationed in Egypt for about six months, and per his own admissions, he would often go to Tel Aviv to service the prostitutes. But as far as killing, he never said he did. He would just go to mess around with these prostitutes. But then in two thousand and one, after he was discharged from the army, from what I understand, it was a medical issue that he was discharged for. Originally, when I first recorded, I wasn't

12:09 sure why, but I continued to research and I did read somewhere that they said that it was a medical issue. But he was back on the prow once he was discharged from the army. So now this takes us to Washington in two thousand and one, and this is where he says he committed his first murder. Now, this was done after moving to the Macaw Reservation near Nia Bay. So why was he there. I was curious about this because, I mean, it seems kind of odd that you would move to a tribal land out of anywhere you could be. And I found that it was because of a woman, but not one he wanted to kill. This was one he actually fell in love with. He met her online and she was an actual tribe member of the local legendary whale hunters, which also again li It had me interested, so I did do a little more looking at that.

13:03 And it is a beautiful tribal land area where this is, and I've never been there, but I looked at the pictures and the area and the people and it really was just really really cool. And the history of whaling is also detailed online on their site, and it's very rooted in the appreciation of nature, prayer, and using every portion of the whale for the good of the people. And it's really neat how precious this is to them as a means of culture and taking care of their tribe. They use every ounce of that whale and nothing is going to ever go to waste. Now, I'll tell you this about me. I'm not big on killing animals, except by the way of them being used for food. I personally I like to deer hunt, I like to fish.

13:53 But you can be damn sure. I don't just go kill for the fun of killing. We eat, and we consume and we use every thing that we kill. And these people seem to be of that same mindset in that regard. But clearly Israel was the antithesis of respecting what he killed. But he moved on the land with his woman where they rented a home and they started a family, and he soon thereafter became the father to a baby girl. So he worked the parks and Recreations department. He was very well liked by the people there, and he was considered I think already mentioned this an excellent carpenter and a family man. But blending in that was his best game, hanging out and doing normal things all the while hunting people. So, as I said, he killed someone at this time, but he withheld the name when he was confessing to this, so we don't know who that person was. Eventually, he and baby mama would part ways and he would move on. He would begin dating another woman, which the woman that he was living with when he moved to Alaska. So a little bit more about that. His daughter was school aged when he started dating this other woman. The woman is actually the one that was moving to Alaska Israel and his daughter moved and followed that woman to Alaska to be with her.

15:19 And by the way, that woman he was dating was a nurse practitioner, a very smart lady. My mother in law is a nurse practitioner, very smart doctor. Like you know, they they're mid level and they know their stuff. This wasn't just some Joe blow woman, you know that they shocked up together. It seemed like she had her shit together. But over the next five years, he would kill multiple people in Washington. Between two thousand and one and two thousand and five, he admitted that he killed a couple and he buried them in a valley during that time, but he didn't give their identities. Between two thousand and five and two thousand and six, he said he committed two other separate murders. One of the bodies, he said, was sunk in Lake Crescent, and he tied anchors to the bodies whenever he dropped them in. Again, he did not give any names, and then in two thousand and nine, he admitted to abducting a woman and he said this was going to be about the month of April he killed her, and then he said he buried her in upstate New York, but again he would not give the name.

16:37 And then he hinted at other murders. No real specifics to these though, like I just gave you on the other ones. He did boast at one point though, that one additional victim's death was ruled accidental after the body was recovered, so that was a win for him all around. And then he said this quote, and I wanted direc quote it for you. He said, the things I've done, I don't feel bad for them. I did them for myself. It's better for me to keep them to myself, their mind And so it gives you a little insight to the mindset there that this was absolutely ownership and that this was his taking and he wanted to own his victims in every way possible. Now, some other random details he gave led investigators to believe that he may be suspect in unsolved cases that were dubbed to be done by the quote unquote Boca killer in Florida. So for my Patreon members, it's not there yet. When you're listening to this but soon I'm going to do a bonus episode on these killings, and you can be thinking about Israel and his possible involvement in those killings. I did a lot of research on this one, and I know that you're going to appreciate this possible link between him and these Boca killer cases. So while it seemed that he was spilling the tea on all that he had done, the lack of names made this not as great as

18:08 you would think. It's not you know, you think you hit a goal mine whenever you have a killer just running and yapping and admitting to things, but no names, no physical bodies, no case. That's the reality of it. He could admit to killing everybody in the world, but if we can't prove it, then it's just talk. And for perspective of why I say this, imagine all of the people missing across the US and knowing this killer has been on the loose, literally everywhere, traveling extensively with no connection to his victims. The randomness of this makes it overwhelming and a little data for you to consider.

18:50 Currently right now, in twenty twenty five, the top three states for missing people are California, Florida. In Texas right now. And I'm not trying to bore you with numbers, but to put why this investigation would be a massive undertaking. Right now as we speak, California has three thousand, six hundred and nineteen people missing, Texas two thousand, seven hundred and forty nine, Florida two thousand, four hundred and twenty four. Like, oh my god, y'all, that's insane right now, Damn y'all.

19:31 We got ten thousand people missing in just three states alone. So you can see why and how this just would be improbable to figure out in a short timeframe or even a reasonably you know, long time frame, because we have no specified locations and we have no known state specifically on some of them. So it's just hard. Jim, did you see what happened in Texas today? Wait before you tell me that, let me tell you what happened in New York. It cannot be as crazy as the case I told you about yesterday in Louisiana.

20:13 You know what, we should do a podcast. About it, and with that we did. Crime War Weekly covers the crime news headlines that have dominated the week. We cover trending crimes from all over the country and even sprinkle in a few globally. Crime War Weekly is available now wherever you listen to your podcasts. Simply by searching Crime War Weekly or clicking the link in the description of this podcast. Now add to this a little bit of Israel's history while growing up, and this was learned in continued interviews with police and with psychologists alike. So Israel was born in Cove, Utah. He was in a large Mormon family, but he was raised in Colville, Washington, and he was not raised in a neighborhood either. It was an area of remote wilderness and it was one where the people that lived there were not integrated well or at all really with the main society. The location where they lived was so remote that it was impassable during the winter, and they would live off the grid. They lived at times without electricity, and allegedly some of those kids in the family slept in a tent for a few years.

21:34 So when we say primitive, I'm serious. This guy was used to living in the land and off the land. The kids would do odd jobs for money, things like cutting firewood, or they would do random farm work for people that they could walk to. I guess their farms and then I want you to add something else to this. Old boy was homeschooled. I don't even doing air quotes right now, like what, I don't even know what that looked like. But no outside influences were really there. He was born the second of ten children, and that alone would lead me to believe that attention was spread thin amongst the kids.

22:19 He also spoke a little bit more about the fact that he was sent to church. Believe it or not, I was kind of surprised by that. But that church he speaks of doesn't really fit the bill of actual godliness in my humble opinion. But I'm gonna explain why and you can decide. But basically, his parents became fundamentalist Christians, and they moved from what he called an amish like church to a more militant, militia church, and there they taught white supremacist values and really honed in on dehumanizing people who didn't agree with their views. And that's not God, that's hate. So when he wasn't at home or in quote unquote church, Israel spent a lot of time alone in the woods where he loved to hunt and fish.

23:12 Like I told you, but he was a very quiet loaner company was not something that he required, and it was that very alone time when he would come up with his plans for murder. As he aged. He even told the FBI that he knew he knew that he was not normal since he was a young teen. And case in point, he bragged about gutting a deer alive when he shot it purposefully to not kill it humanely like that was his goal, was to make the animal suffer. He loved to watch suffering and he wanted to kill anything with the heartbeat his own words. So, knowing all of this, investigators continued to interview and try to get more information from Israel, but the names, he just was not giving them up. That said, he also was making his own change of plans and that he didn't plan on staying in prison very long. In May of twenty twelve, he tried to escape from a courtroom and he did actually make some ground. So while he was in court, this is what a routine hearing that he was there for, he was able to break his leg irons. Now, if you haven't worked in prison, maybe you've watched some movies, whatever, but leg irons are legit. This is not something that you would easily break. So this tells me that he

24:43 in some way had the ability to somewhat manipulate these leg irons to make them not work like they're supposed to. I don't know what he did, but he did something. And so he vaulted, literally vaulted over the courtroom railing into the spectator area of the courtroom and he was wrestled to the ground by deputy marshals and they had to use a taser to shock and subdue him. So this was just before two pm. Okay, prosecutors, defense attorneys, and a judge. They were all in the courtroom discussing setting a trial date for him. Samantha Koenig's family and friends were in there, as well as some media and some law personnel, but for some unknown reason, no one in the gallery was allowed to sit on the front row.

25:39 It remained empty. So looking back on this, was this to avoid maybe an angry friend or family member from just losing it and attacking Israel. Or was this to keep Israel away from them and make sure there was a big enough barrier. Who knows, but whatever it was, it would prove a good move by the court. Israel while he was in court hadn't been handcuffed during this hearing. I want you to know that is normal procedure to not have their hands done, but he was wearing those leg irons under the table. Israel's attorney was literally mid sentence saying, our position is that at this particular juncture, we're not and then right then there's a cut in and people just start screaming from the gallery. Now the attorney turns around, Everyone turns around to see what the uproar is. And this entire hearing was also recorded, so there is audio of this, and you can hear someone screaming, get him, get him. The deputies were all screaming get back, get back, and the spectators are all in an uproar while another woman yells out kill him. But within seven seconds, Israel was tackled by multiple marshals, but he continued to fight them right there in front of all these people, and that's what when never that taser was deployed and he was finally restrained. So this entire incident only lasted twenty seconds, but the emotional toll that that must have

27:10 had on not only Samantha's family, but the others that were in there. It was just it had to be another knife to the heart that this guy continues to terrify and hurt people. Something else. They looked into this. The leg irons were checked prior to him leaving the jail, so how they broke is still a mystery. I'm saying broke, or how he manipulated them is still a mystery. So Israel's hearing was continued and he was returned back to the jail. So when they were interviewing about him, interviewing him, he does mention this, and it was afterwards he's laughing about the situation. He like chuckles and he says, look, if there was even a one percent chance of getting away, it was worth the shot. And I couldn't help but think of his victims whenever he said that, because they try and they took their shot too. But Israel had the luxury of being stopped by a taser because the use of force rules apply to him. But his victims weren't so lucky, and when he stopped them, there were no rules of engagement, and he stopped them with their lives.

28:23 So while he chuckles about that, it really isn't that fucking funny. So what were Israel's long term plans if he weren't ever to be caught. Well, his ultimate plan, as he discussed with the investigators, was that he dreamed of building a dungeon in his home. And we can assume just by that alone that there would have been more victims and more time to torture them without even being noticed. So thank god that didn't happen. But man, if that didn't make my mind start re you know, going through a reel of killers that I've studied, and people who have taken other people captive and all of that, And what is the deal with the dungeons that you have to have a place so secluded and down in the dark. It's devilish where you purposefully can take another another person just to torture them and to satisfy your own sick needs. Well, some months and interviews would pass, and investigator's patients were running thin, and they were starting to get really short with Israel. Give us locations so we can recover bodies. That's what we're doing here. But he continued to stall. He continued wanting confirmation that the details wouldn't be released publicly, where his daughter would find

29:53 out everything that he did. He didn't want his daughter to know what he did to someone else's daughter, daughters and sons. And I'm not throwing hate or shade on that child. Israel's daughter has nothing to do with this. She is a child, or was a child. This has nothing to do with her and her finding out how horrible her father was doesn't bring any joy in any way, and I think any grown ass adult would agree. I mean, this is not vengeance by a child finding out, but the thought that that is what his bargaining chips were about.

30:36 He didn't want people to know who he really was. Okay, Well, shortly before December of twenty twelve, a judge ruled that the interrogations could be released to the public, and they were, and then on December first of twenty twelve, breaking news began to spread like wildfire. When prison officials went to go make their rounds, Israel Keys didn't meet them. At the bars of his cell on a Saturday night. Rolling into the early morning hours of a Sunday, Israel Keys would take his final life, and it was his own.

31:19 Israel was found dead in his cell, having used a disposable razor hidden inside of a pencil to slit his wrists and then he used his sheets to complete the act by hanging. Everything that he had to tell and the potential to gather the names of his unknown victims died with him that night, and this news hit families of these victims that were known hard. A conviction at trial would have legally and publicly found him responsible for the death of Samantha Koenig, and that formality would have meant so much to her family, that legal document, that public assurance and finger pointing by a jury and everyone that they all know you did this. You did it alone.

32:17 It's not speculation, it's not a guess, it's not just it could have been. Everybody would have known you did this, and you know you did it Israel, but everybody else would know, and they would hear what kind of person you were. But now that would never happen. The chance to say publicly the horrors their child suffered and for him to have to be judged in front of everyone was something that they wanted as much as they needed it. And now it was over. The air was sucked out of their lungs once again upon hearing this news, and it's just not fair. Luckily you and I we weren't in that position. We didn't we didn't have to. You know, we can look at this and say, oh, good, he's dead.

33:06 He's a piece of shit anyway, I'm glad he's dead. But don't forget that the victims and their families, they still had that opportunity that they were looking forward to to address it and for the world and the legal system to acknowledge it. And it was just stripped from them by the very person who stripped their child from them. It's unfucking fair. Well, officials would search his cell and this would uncover more than just a suicide scene, because they found some items that were quite disturbing, including paintings.

33:47 And the paintings were disturbing for a multitude of reasons, but most prominently was the fact that they were painted with his own blood. While the creep factor in this is very high, it was also the number of them that was extremely jarring to investigators because guess how many paintings in his blood? There were eleven, the exact number of victims that Israel admitted to killing, So investigators believed that this was not a coincidence and that there was one for each victim. Eleven separate white sheets of paper with primitive looking skulls on each one, all of the skulls having round eyes and two round nostrils, and all of the mouths on them straight across, with no emotion.

34:40 This was not art like you might think he had skill. No, it was very primitive, almost childlike looking drawing if it weren't so evil. And all of the skulls had crosses on their foreheads that looked very similar to when Catholics get their ashes. It looked just like that on the forehead. Only one of the paintings had words on it, and it said It was at the bottom, and it said we are one. And I wondered, personally, there is no record of this, nor is there anyone else who has said this. This is just my own curiosity. I wonder if that was maybe a hint to that he may have cannibalized at some point, because a lot of these killers that admit to cannibalizing say that they wanted to consume and become one with their victims. And I've always been curious as to what that meant. But that's exactly where my mind went. If you'r's w somewhere else, that's cool, email me, let me not message me or whatever. But it's not so far fetched. And I'm not saying that for grandiose storytelling. I'm genuine in this. We've all seen Dahmer and heard about Dahmer, so that's what I wondered what that meant. And then there was only one painting out of the eleven that was not a skull. Now to me, the painting looks like a sand dollar, and I'm going to I'll post this on Patreons. Y'all can look through them and you can see and assess and see what you see. Sometimes different lenses of looking at

36:11 things and all of our different experiences in life make us see different things, which is interesting because it can open up different avenues. So at this point we know of Samantha, Bill and Lorraine, which now leaves us eight people unaccounted for. Keep that in mind. There was also a suicide note which rambled on It was very hard to read. It was found under his body and it was written in a combination of pencil and ink on this yellow legal pad. So the FBI took that messy rambling note and they had it cleaned up to be analyzed more and It did not confirm any new murders, nor did it list any of the names of the ones that he had admitted to. I mean shit, the least he could have done was name him before he killed himself. But no, he's not going to do that.

37:01 He's not going to do that. Well. They also looked into the words because they wanted to see were there any hidden messages that it may contain, or maybe some type of coding in there. But they read it was four pages long. They read through all of it, and they didn't find anything. There was no hidden messages there. Now, portions of the note seemed to be describing how it feels to take a life, and then he goes on in other portions to express how much he hates Americans. So I was going to read you a couple of the excerpts from it. Again, it's much longer than this, but just to give you some insight, and these are direct quotes. I'm not ad libbing this. I looked into your eyes. They were so dark, warm and trusting, as though you had not a worry or care. The more guileless the gaze, the better potential to fill up those pools with your fear, your wet lips were a promise of a secret, unspoken, nervous laugh. It burst like a pulse of blood from your throat. There will be no more laughter here. Your face framed in dark curls like a portrait, the sun shone through highlights of red. What color I wonder? And how straight up will it turn?

38:17 Plastered back with your sweat of your blood. Forget the lady called luck, she does not abide near me, for her powers don't extend to those who are deceased. Soon now you'll join those ranks of the dead, or your ashes. The wind will soon blow, family and friends will shed a few tears, portend, it's off to heaven you go. But the reality is you were just bones and meat, and with your brain dyed, also your soul. So that's just some insight to the darkness and the callousness of the way he thought of these people. And then these comments were some of the comments on Americans and the American working man. Quote land of the free, land of the Lye, land of Scheme American eyes, and he wrote that twice, Land of the free, land of the Lye, land of Scheme, American eyes. Consume what you don't need stars, you idolize, pursue what you admit is a dream and it's American die. Punch in the clock and sit on your ass playing stupid ass games on your phone. Paper on your wall says you got smarts, but you still crawl like the vermin you are. Once your precious power grid's blown. Okay, all is over. Words are flaccid and weak.

39:37 Back it with action, or it all comes off as cheap. Watch close while I work. Now, feel the electric of my touch. Open my trembling flower or your petals, I'll crush. So this is certainly, like I said, not all of the note, but it's again giving you that insight to the mind of a killer and someone who's full of and on top of that. A forensic psychiatrist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. His name was doctor Stephen Montgomery. He reviewed the note and it was his opinion that in these writings, Israel's goal was to emphasize his own superiority, that he has guile and can take advantage of people who are naive and trusting of him. And doctor Montgomery was also very clear that Israel was intelligent and very clearly understood his behavior was wrong and He wrote the letter in this way so that he wanted people to not only find it, but he wanted them to talk about it, and he also wanted people Israel's goal was to further magnify his own self worth. Basically, it was a very self serving letter. And I'm no psychiatrist, I've never claimed to be. But the grandiose nature in which he attempts to write is obviously a reflection of how

41:09 he thinks of himself and how great he is. And in the words of Simon Cowell back in the American Idol days, I find it very self indulgent. I wasn't as impressed by these writings. He came across as a pseudo intellect, and he tried to write like he was Ralph Waldo Emerson or some shit. But he's a he's an evil killer. Like that's that's all you are. Don't get it twisted. So for now, the FBI continues to try and solve those eight unsolved cases that are believed to have been committed by Israel Keys. So why has this remained so difficult even today? In twenty twenty five, like I said, he traveled extensively, he buried those murder kits or his kill cash, whatever you want to call it, and so he didn't travel nor check weapons on flight.

42:01 He had no targeted victim profile. His victims were often chosen at random and on the spot. They ranged from teenagers to middle aged couples. He did at one point say in his interviews that he preferred victims that were lightweight because they were easier to dispose of, but that wasn't always the case, and he also said that after his daughter was born, he tried to avoid any situations where a child may be hurt. So the FBI has compiled the known movements and the known travels of israel Keys to try and narrow down areas of concentration where they might can figure out who these people are. Now, no bodies have been recovered to date, but the FBI has now expressed their confidence that the woman that he said he kidnapped and he buried in upstate New York is likely a woman by the name of Deborah Feldman who disappear around that same time. And when they were reviewing Israel's computers or computer they found pictures of Deborah Feldman on his computer. And when they took that picture of her and they put it in front of him when he was still alive, and they showed that photo to Israel. He reacted differently. He physically reacted whenever they put that photo in front of him, and they said he literally started to kind of shake when he saw it, and there's something to that that autonomic system was firing

43:33 off when he saw her face. So this would now mean that four of the eleven are potentially solved, but this still leaves seven people. And he did mention Lake Crescent in Washington in one of his interviews, where he had a small aluminum boat that he said he would use to hide a body before he dumped her. And the lake, by the way, that's one of the deepest lakes in the US. So as you can imagine, nobody has ever been recovered from that one, none in all the years that have gone by. The Green River in Wyoming is where he also had hidden one of his kill kits, so they are of the thinking right now that a victim may be there as well. Finally, he was known to travel to Canada a lot, but during one of the interviews he said something that is just mind blowing. He said, well, yeah, I went to Canada, but Canadians don't count. Whenever he was asked if he ever killed anyone there? So did he kill Canadians? We don't know. So I hate to say this, but sorry, you know, Sorry, Israel, they matter to me. They matter even if they're from Canada. And I went and I looked at the it's called the Dough Network for like John Doe, you know, the Dough Network for missing and unidentified.

45:01 I focused on females in Canada, just out of curiosity, and the numbers are staggering, justin Alberta alone from nineteen ninety one to twenty ten, because I kind of honed in on that time frame. There are fourteen There are fourteen missing people in Canada, and one of them I don't know why, but she caught my attention. Her name was Jay Reagan. She's sixteen years old and she's got that sandy blonde hair, and for some reason, I was just drawn to that girl. I wonder. It just makes you wonder. And I'll put the link to that site in the show notes so you can go click on it and go look at all of their faces if you want to, because there's faces to these missing people.

45:43 There are people that was just an Alberta police are still trying to gather information still on Israel keys and whose possible victims may be. And I just want to tell you this. There is a contact number that you can call and that number is one eight hundred call FBI. You never know, you may hold the key to something that you don't realize. So that's what happened to Israel. I know a lot of people had messaged and said, ooh, you know, I hope he gets prison justice. Well, I guess that's pretty much what we have to work with is a suicide. But thankfully he can no longer physically hurt anyone and no future victims will be made by his hands. And I don't have much to say about him, as he doesn't deserve the time nor the spotlight for being evil. And I love to tell these stories because I like to talk about these victims and maybe we can find some, but spotlighting him it just sucks, you know, But you have to know you're bad guy if you're gonna think like you're bad guy, and what they possibly have done. And when he committed his suicide, he proved once and for all that no killer ever dies a hero, just a coward and while Israel believed in Satan, I believe in the power of Jesus, and I believe that he was with every victim, known and unknown in their worst moments, and that he cradled them through their fear.

47:13 That's what I choose to believe. And while it's hard to believe this, I'm actually going to conclude on a positive note this episode because in the end, I'm positive that his suicide saved the taxpayers money, which is the only good thing he probably ever did.