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Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to Crime Wire Weekly, where
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we have got a full show for you today with
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updates and then breaking cases too that are just all
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over the map today. And we're gonna start in South
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Carolina where Alex Murdall's murder conviction is overturned and Jim
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is gonna bring that one to you. And then we're
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gonna go look at Disney Cruise Line. I know we've
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got vacations coming up. It's on the summertime, right really,
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and we've got a bunch of employees that are in
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a lot of trouble. They're deported and it's all revolving
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around a child porn investigation.
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Shocking.
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I know, you never want kids in Disney and porn
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in the same conversation. And then we're gonna come right
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here to Louisiana where a woman was arrested in the
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death of former Rapids Parish sheriff. And we had spoken
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about that case before, but we've got some updates for
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you that you're gonna want to know. And then we're
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going to go to the school bus of all places
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right here again in Louisiana, and that's just a place
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where nothing should happen. You get off a school bus
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and you go home. But we've got some eighteen year
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olds plus two others that were arrested after a shooting
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took place right there at the bus stop. A man
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that is described as the tenant from Hell has been
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arrested in the Bronx, New York. And this is not
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one you could guess of what we're gonna say.
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He's definitely the tenant from Hell.
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Yeah, something's going on with that one. Then we're gonna
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call this one the Goldilocks Crime when we do our
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Foolish Felon segment, and this is going to be in
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Los Angeles, and again, this is something you can't make up.
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It's kind of wild and it certainly fits the foolish
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felon stigma that we're going to give it. Then an
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utterly unrelated this segment's going to be all about getting
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stuck on a roller coaster. I don't know how many
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people have experienced.
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That's a lot of a lot of people's worst nightmare.
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Mine because I'm afraid of heights.
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Yeah, but that's it happened.
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Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Then we're going
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to go to Florida, where we have this new trend
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called teen takeover. It's not a cool trend and it's
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going to lead to twenty two arrests, which we will
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go into. And then Colorado, we've got a man there
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that's going to die after he gets hit by a
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commercial jet. I know that's all over the news. We've
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got some information on that for you. And then we're
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going to wrap it up in Pennsylvania where a man
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sets fire to his romantic interests home because that's the
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way to win one over.
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Yeah, that's been happening a lot lately with these men
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that can't handle rejection.
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I know. I am Kelly Jennys, I'm Jim Chapman, and
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we are excited about this one today.
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Yeah, we are any anything to talk about before we
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get into it? Or do we just get into it?
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Actually, let's talk about.
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The holidays occur. I don't think last couple of weeks,
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Oh Mother's Day happened that I was leaning in how's day?
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You're a mother?
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I am. I've been called a mother before with some
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others added to it, but mine is great that I
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went antiquing by my day himself, and that was a
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treat my husband watched the kids and I then veged
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out on the couch and took some naps.
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Very good.
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Sounds good to me. What did you do for your wife?
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Uh? Well, you know, spoiler as usual always. Yeah, I
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had the whole crew over all. The kids came by
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and you know, celebrated mom. And I'll do the hardest
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work in the world us as guys, we we worked
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physically hard a lot of times. But it's it's the
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moms that handle everything else.
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We're the business manager.
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Men could never do. And I'm look, I'm a man,
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and I'll say it firsthand that the patience level is
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totally different.
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Usually that's awesome. I'm glad. I'm glad that you had
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a good day at your house too.
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Yeah. So we will get into it, and we're going
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to bring you to South Carolina, and look, I probably
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got it. I'm not exaggerating. Twenty five to thirty messages
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on Facebook within an hour of this coming out, people saying,
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when are you going to cover this, Jim, when are
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you gonna cover it? Because I did twenty seven episodes
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of the murderall trial on Exposed, and so I do
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want to tell these people. I have already printed out
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the Supreme Court decision. It's forty seven pages long and
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we're going to get into it in the next episode
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of Exposed. But to tell you what has happened in
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a stunning reversal, and that was the adjective used by
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this article. That's not the adjective I would use because
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I don't consider it stunning. If you go one hundred percent,
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if you go back to April twenty fifth of twenty
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twenty five, that was my final episode I covered on
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MRDALL and I told you then this was not going
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to stand, that it was going to be overturned. And look,
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I'm not nostradamus. I don't have a crystal ball, but
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I could see the writing on the wall when you
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had the inner farance. It took place with the Clerk
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of court in this trial. She totally ruined this conviction.
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But we'll get into it. The South Carolina Supreme Court
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did unanimously, and that's important, overturned the double murder convictions
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of disgraced attorney Alex Murdoch or is he as he
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calls himself Elick Murdoch, which is nothing like the spelling.
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I think he does that because it's sneaty sounding to say,
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my name is Elick and it's spelled a L e x,
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but whatever, Well, it's always drove me nuts.
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Brett farr of his name has always driven me nuts
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because it's spelled Favre, but it's Brett Farv.
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Well, you know when we're going to go off on
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something totally different. But when he was drafted, huh okay,
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they went up to call his name and they called
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him Brett Favor.
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Brett Favor.
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Brett Favor got drafted, and that tells you how low
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he was in the draft. The Hall of Fame and
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my favorite football player of all time. But anyway, shout
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out Brett Ford. If you're listening, just call. We'd love
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to have you on the show talking about crime. All right,
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So anyway back to Alec Murdall, there was a ruling
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that jury tampering by a clerk court deprived him of
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a fair trial and ordered a new trial in this
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high profile case. The five to zero decision was issued
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just yesterday May thirteenth, twenty twenty six, and it's centered
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around the actions of former Cullington County Clerk of Court
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Rebecca Hill. The justice is found that he'll improperly influence
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jurors during Murdall's twenty twenty three trial by urging them
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to distrust his testimony and watch him closely. Not something
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that you want to say if you are a clerk.
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Of court, come and obviously should not be doing Yeah.
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One hundred percent, comments the court said were motivated in
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parts by our hopes of profiting off of a book deal.
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Tied to a guilty verdict. Hill later pleaded guilty to perjury,
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obstruction of justice, and misconduct in office. He is in jail. Quote.
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Although we are aware of the time, money and effort
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expended for the lengthy trial, we had no choice but
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to reverse the decision. Murdaugh, who is fifty seven, was
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convicted in March of twenty twenty three in the shootings
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of his wife Maggie and his son Paul at the
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family sprawling Moseille hunting estate in Collington County. He was
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sentenced to two consecutive life terms without parole. The case
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has drawn national and international attention, and during this case
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it was also revealed and it became a problem in
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this conviction because there was a lot of focus on
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the fact that he had some financial crimes that he
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was also being charged with in a separate trial, and
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those came out in this trial, and that's not a
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good thing. That was something I was also concerned with
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because there was so much focus on it and it
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was seemingly unrelated. And the problem with that is the
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judge in the case allied it. I kind of figured
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that would cause an issue as well, and I'll get
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deeper into that into expose. We'll talk about it more,
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but shocking overturn in this case. It is. One thing
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I will say is that you don't have to worry
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about him ever getting out of jail because he sentenced
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to forty years for these financial crimes, and that forty
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years was a federal sentence, not a state sentence, so
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there is no parole on federal sentences. There are only
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paroles on state sentences. So he's going to serve until
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he's at least ninety six years old before you ever
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get so he's going to die in prison in all likelihood,
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no matter what happens with this. But they say they're
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going to retry him Kelly Jennings. Half a million dollars
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was the cost to try him in his first trial,
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and because of this interference, you just pissed a half
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a million dollars down the drain of taxpayer money.
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And to that point, okay, again, the taxpayer is also
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the victim here because we have to fund this pony show,
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and then because of one person's selfishness, because they want
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to make a financial gain off of someone's tragedy, which
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is in and of itself, you know, just I know,
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we people want to tell the stories. But I mean,
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you're you threw an entire trial that so much time
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and effort was put in by prosecutors to lay this
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out for these jurors. Those jurors gave their time doing
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their civic duty and you know, listen intently, and then
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to get the conviction, and then to have that all
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just thrown out because of one person's selfishness and someone
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who specifically knew better. I mean, you're the clerk of court.
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You knew better. It's a good reversal. I agree with
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the courts on that decision. I figure they will try
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this again, and I don't know, they may throw him
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out a plea deal offer of that, but it would
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secure that he would definitely die in prison, you never know,
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just just for the sake of you know, saving the
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taxpayers money or something like that.
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But I don't think he would take a plea deal.
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I don't This is you're up in being charge for
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killing your wife and son. I don't think you're going
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to play out on that when you're looking at like
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he's still going to be in prison.
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There's nothing, he has nothing to lose to fight it.
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But at least when they try the second time, they'll
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get a good conviction again and then it'll remove any
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continuing appeal continuing appeals, hopefully on a constitutional you know
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argument or whatever.
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So right, and I want to say this as much. Look,
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he's a piece of shit, there's no doubt about it.
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But I think the Supreme Court got it right. They
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did it is the right call. If we don't have that,
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the right to a fair trial in this country, we
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don't have a country. And it is the cusp of
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our justice system. He did not get a fair trial,
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doesn't mean he didn't do it, but he But when
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you're tampering with a jury, that is the sheer definition
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of not a fair trial. So I'm glad to see
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the Supreme Court did the right thing despite the fact
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of who he is. And uh, I'm actually surprised they're
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going to reprosecute the case because it's gonna be another
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half a million dollars. And look, their case had no
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physical evidence. This was all circumstantial. Not saying he didn't
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do it, but it was all circumstantial. So we'll see
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they don't want to give.
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To jul got the conviction, which tells you though whatever
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that circumstantial evidence may be, it was very strong as
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far as the jury felt. You know, circumstantial cases are
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the hardest ones. And he was still convicted on that.
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Do you know what was it a unanimous Well, he.
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Was convicted due to jury tampering. Well, had she not
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done what she did, would he have been convicted. There's
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one jermist said they were not. They were gonna they
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were gonna say not guilty.
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That's what my question was. If it was a unanimous
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or not.
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There was a There was someone they called the egg
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juror who actually held out and was pressured allegedly, and
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she came out after and said, oh I misspoke here.
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She was not. She was dismissed right before deliberations and
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she said I was going to not guilty, and she
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believes that's why she was dismissed because she was putting
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a fight up. There's some debate there on whether that's
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sure or not, but we'll see.
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Yeah, this is just unfortunate, I think for everybody because
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it was a you know, it was a waste of
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so much effort, and the victims paid the price of this, yeah,
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and money and everything else. All right, Well, let's go